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Yankees lineup

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 24, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

1. Jeter DH
2. Granderson CF
3. Teixeira 1B
4. Cano 2B
5. Swisher RF
6. Martin C
7. Jones LF
8. Nunez SS
9. Laird 3B
Colon P

 
 

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92 Responses to “Yankees lineup”

  1. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Brian-

    Jeter or Nunez at SS??

  2. Crawdaddy July 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Jeter DHing I assume?

  3. Against All Odds July 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    # Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Brian-

    Jeter or Nunez at SS??

    ——————————

    Both Jeter will play the field and Nunez will hit for him

  4. MTU July 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Uh oh. Better duck.

    No GGBG.

  5. Shame Spencer July 24th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Andruw “Ugh” Jones.

  6. West Coast Yankee Fan July 24th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    We’ll see what Cashman does or doesn’t do. It might be that he and the owners just aren’t driven to win as badly as GS was and that one championship in ten years is acceptable. Prospects cost a lot less than proven major league ballplayers do. They’re all as rich as can be what do they care. The unwillingness to lose is a mindset not everyone has.

  7. MTU July 24th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    MY-

    What happened to that closed door meeting you were gonna have ?

    ;)

  8. blake July 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Maybe they are going to let Nunez range and deflect balls to Jeter then let him throw them out….

  9. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Brian-

    Jeter or Nunez at SS??

    ——————————

    Both -Jeter will play the field and Nunez will hit for him

    Very Good!!! LOL

  10. Vineyard Yankee July 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Our hottest hitter (Gardner) on the bench. Gonzales or not, what a joke.

  11. Vineyard Yankee July 24th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Last time Colon pitched against the A’s he shut them out. Lets hope for more of the same today.

  12. blake July 24th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Only 2 lefties in the lineup today and both have hit LHP well this year.

  13. Against All Odds July 24th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    # Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Brian-

    Jeter or Nunez at SS??

    ——————————

    Both -Jeter will play the field and Nunez will hit for him

    Very Good!!! LOL

    ———————

    Thank you

  14. 86w183 July 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Gardner has not played well the last two days, going 1-for-9 and misplayed two balls yesterday. A day off wont kill him.

    The Boss’ obsession with winning didn’t keep the Yanks from going 1982-94 without winning or 2002-08 without winning a World Series.

    Obsession does not guarantee success. It often gets in the way of it.

    The Yanks’ payroll is about $ 40 M above the # 2 payroll. I don’t see how you can question the Steinbrothers’ commitment to winning.

  15. Tar July 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    “Both -Jeter will play the field and Nunez will hit for him”

    Nah. Jeter will DH and use that time to teach GGBG how to bat lead-off. :D

  16. Bronx Jeers July 24th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Cashman on Igawa:

    Cashman added, “He does things his own way.” Like commuting to and from Manhattan.

    “Yeah, he’s passed me on the drive down to Trenton,” Cashman said. “He drives faster than his fastball.”

    Ouch

  17. MTU July 24th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Jeers-

    Cashman:

    “He’s got a great future with RayBan.”

    ;)

  18. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    At this point I’d rather see Swisher #3 and Tex #5.

    Gonzalez is murder on righties also, however his career ERA against NYY is 6.33 even though the BAA is .225.

    Maybe after suffering a crushing defeat, he’ll refuse to leave NY and request a trade to his “daddy?”

  19. Against All Odds July 24th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    # Tar July 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    “Both -Jeter will play the field and Nunez will hit for him”

    Nah. Jeter will DH and use that time to teach GGBG how to bat lead-off. :D

    ————————————–

    LOL ouch

  20. MTU July 24th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    Billy Beane in between.
    Always thinks he’s clever.
    Trade us Gio.
    Now is better than never.

    ;)

  21. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Bronx Jeers-

    Yesterday, someone posted [?you] that Cashman had a deal worked out to send Igawa back to Japan for the last 2 years of the contract, but he refused.

  22. West Coast Yankee Fan July 24th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    86w183 – Just thinking out loud. One championship in ten years with the highest payroll in baseball gives me pause that something isn’t working. Looking forward, we have a significant number of under-performing, aging position players with little in the minor leagues so far to get excited about. Pitching is better but a total crap shoot. There is a reason we won in 2009, we went out and got players in their prime that in combination with the old guard put us over the top.

    One more thing as an aside. Losing Matsui and Damon, for whatever reasons, was a bigger loss than anyone I think knew at the time. Those kinds of players don’t grow on trees.

  23. Giuseppe Franco July 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    # 86w183 July 24th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    The Yanks’ payroll is about $ 40 M above the # 2 payroll. I don’t see how you can question the Steinbrothers’ commitment to winning.

    ———-

    He’s just talking out of his ass again. It’s as simple as that. There’s no evidence to support his argument.

  24. joeman July 24th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Swish is a streak hitter and he’s on one right now….he has a lot of batting lulls during the season and at the end of the year his stats look decent

  25. Bronx Jeers July 24th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    YT

    Yeah the NYT ran a pretty lengthy article on Igawa.

    It’s hard to believe that he would chose to pitch in the minor leagues rather than go back to Japan. He does have a wife and children.

    That could be based on Japanese cultural beliefs.

    Cash did say in the article that he has told Kei that all this is not his fault and that it was an organizational mistake.

  26. Yank1 July 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    “Swish is a streak hitter and he’s on one right now….he has a lot of batting lulls during the season and at the end of the year his stats look decent”

    Seems to be the case with most of our players, no?

  27. West Coast Yankee Fan July 24th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Giuseppe Franco – I gave the best evidence there is. One championship in ten years is not anything to brag about. Anyone who disputes that prospects aren’t significantly less expensive than established major league ballplayers is delusional. I said clearly, we will see what Cashman does or doesn’t do, but this team clearly has some issues and we have lots of pitching and catching prospects whose value may never be higher.

    I’m sorry some off-the-beaten path thought is so foreign to you; please go back to debating the earth shattering importance of a player batting sixth or seventh.

  28. blake July 24th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Tex is a 3 hole hitter vs LHP.

  29. RhapsodyInBlue July 24th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Granderson 0 hits since moved from the #2 slot.

  30. joeman July 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    # Yank1 July 24th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    “Swish is a streak hitter and he’s on one right now….he has a lot of batting lulls during the season and at the end of the year his stats look decent”

    Seems to be the case with most of our players, no?
    ————————————–
    this year for sure, Swish is every year

  31. Chip July 24th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    I wouldn’t mind at all if the A’s decided to leave Rich Harden and Craig Breslow here in NY when they head out of town.

  32. blake July 24th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Harden has never stayed healthy ever…..

  33. joeman July 24th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Gio would be a nice addition

  34. blake July 24th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Gio would be a nice addition but so would the very large chunk of the Yankee farm for the the As….

  35. Shame Spencer July 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Can’t blame Igawa for preferring to reside in the states right now.. someone mentioned his wife and children, does anyone know if his immediate family is living here or in Japan?

  36. joeman July 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    blake July 24th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Gio would be a nice addition but so would the very large chunk of the Yankee farm for the the As…
    ————————————
    proven verses unproven all day long

  37. MG July 24th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    these complaints about lack of commitment to winning are so overly critical it’s ridiculous.

    Here is the Yankees history of World Championships by decade (number of WS appearances in ()):
    1920′s 3 (6)
    1930′s 5 (5)
    1940′s 4 (5)
    1950′s 7 (9)
    1960′s 2 (5)
    1970′s 2 (3)
    1980′s 0 (1)
    1990′s 3 (3)
    2000′s 2 (4)

    History doesn’t remember the number of years between championships, it records the results over longer periods of time (like decades).

    It’s much tougher to win the WS now than 25 years ago because of the additional playoff rounds, that’s why the Yankees run in the late 90′s is possibly the most impressive of any of these Yankees teams.

    I grew up watching and rooting for the great Yankees teams of the 50′s and early 60′s, I’ve lived first hand a long running dynasty.

    I also lived through the worst Yankees stretches, from 1965 through 1974 and the late 80′s through the Stump Merrill years (when the Yankees were an embarrassment). If you can’t accept losing as a part of sports then you should find something another area of interest.

    Some of you just expect way too much on an inning by inning basis. The 2011 team will be in the playoffs, it’s highly unlikely they will lose a 6+ game lead for the wild card over the next 70 games. The playoffs is a complete crapshoot, they have as good a chance as any of the other teams and we have no clue who will be hot, who will not, and who will be on the team with the trading deadline coming up.

    I went to the game Thursday night with another Yankees fan who was born to be a LoHud poster, he had all the same complaints as this board about Jeter, Posada, Teixeira, and anyone else who failed to perform at a Hall of Fame level. It was actually pretty humorous…

  38. Abe Peteraham July 24th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    blake says:
    July 24, 2011 at 10:21 am
    Maybe they are going to let Nunez range and deflect balls to Jeter then let him throw them out….”"

    Hah! Love the image ..

  39. GreenBeret7 July 24th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    There is a very good reason for not being a repeat winner in the WS. The Cashman has been spending the last 7 years or so trying to rebuild an empty farm system. It sure as Hell has nothing to do with not spending money or not caring about winning. The Since 2000, only two teams have more than one WS title. None have had a repeat since the Yanks since the Yankees. That’s a Hell of a long stretch, but, that’s what happens when MLB places roadblocks out there to direct the sport towards parity (or parody of baseball). If NYY wins another, you will see stonger measures to halt a repeat. Baseball needs the Yankees to be the bullies to pull in fans. They also need the Chicago and LA teams to be strong, along with the Mets. Unfortunately, three of those teams are totally screwed up by putting in hand picked owners. Houston is a big city with a small town ownership. The Steinbrenners are only to blame for letting the farm grow fallow. That’s changing.

  40. Shame Spencer July 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    MG – Awesome post.

  41. blake July 24th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    “proven verses unproven all day long”

    Yes but there has been no indication he’s available and Im not sure he’s the type guy you trade away a big piece of your future for…..

  42. 86w183 July 24th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Geat write up on the Yanks W.S. titles over the years.

    It would be great if the Yanks kept Damon and Matsui… with Jorge that would give them three DH candidates. Daon turned down more money than he’s gotten. What more could/should have been done. Matsui didn’t want to wait to see if Damon signed, thus both were gone.

    If they had either right now Posada would be a $ 13.1 M pinch hitter —- of course that’s what he should be anyway.

  43. Keith--FL July 24th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    I agree I wish we still had Matsui or Damon…..

  44. MG July 24th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Shame, thanks…

    I would have brought both Damon and Matsui back in 2010, if possible, if for no other reason than to let the same team defend the championship.

    They blew it on Matsui and Boras helped blow it on Damon, you just have to move on from mistakes like that.

  45. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    I wouldn’t mind at all if the A’s decided to leave Rich Harden and Craig Breslow here in NY when they head out of town.

    —————————-
    Chip-
    Lefties are hitting close to .400 against lefty Breslow!

    Harden maybe in the bullpen as this years Kerry Wood would be OK with me.

  46. Giuseppe Franco July 24th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    # West Coast Yankee Fan July 24th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Giuseppe Franco – I gave the best evidence there is. One championship in ten years is not anything to brag about. Anyone who disputes that prospects aren’t significantly less expensive than established major league ballplayers is delusional. I said clearly, we will see what Cashman does or doesn’t do, but this team clearly has some issues and we have lots of pitching and catching prospects whose value may never be higher.

    I’m sorry some off-the-beaten path thought is so foreign to you; please go back to debating the earth shattering importance of a player batting sixth or seventh.

    ———–

    First off, as 86 pointed out, this team went through their worst playoff drought in decades from 1982 to 1994. I guess The Boss wasn’t committed to winning at that time.

    It’s a hell of a lot tougher to win now year after year than it was 20 years ago. Other teams have a lot more money and the Yanks are always at a disadvantage with top amateur prospects due to their low draft slots every year.

    Secondly, don’t confuse me with those who constantly criticize lineup construction. You won’t find a single post from me about who should bat where in the lineup.

    Why do you lie like that? Were you raised that way?

  47. West Coast Yankee Fan July 24th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Finally an intelligent conversation about something substantive other than the batting order.

  48. 86w183 July 24th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    We can’t forget the context of the 2009-10 off season.

    Matsui and Damon were (and still are) aging and no longer every day outfielders. You had two more years of Posada under contract as well. Yanks wanted one, not both. They decided Damon would be the better option and offered him more than anyone else did but were turned down. Matsui signed with the Angels while Yankees/Damon negotiations were ongoing.

    I fail to see where the Yanks made any mistakes

  49. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    If John Oleured hadn’t gotten injured in the AL game 3 against the SOx, replaced by Tony Clark, who did and had nothing, I’m convinced the Yankees would have gone on to the WS, and would have beaten the Cardinals.

  50. West Coast Yankee Fan July 24th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    I said above, whatever the reasons were, that Matusi and Damon were and are missed. The team chemistry without them, and Melky for that matter, suffered. This team used to expect pie – not any longer.

  51. MG July 24th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    86w183 July 24th, 2011 at 11:15 am
    We can’t forget the context of the 2009-10 off season.

    Matsui and Damon were (and still are) aging and no longer every day outfielders. You had two more years of Posada under contract as well. Yanks wanted one, not both. They decided Damon would be the better option and offered him more than anyone else did but were turned down. Matsui signed with the Angels while Yankees/Damon negotiations were ongoing.

    I fail to see where the Yanks made any mistakes
    —————————-
    I agree on the Matsui and Damon aging part, my comment about ‘mistake’ was everyone involved because World championships no longer grow on trees and you would at least think that players like Matsui and Damon would have taken 1 year deals to get their best chance at another one.

    It didn’t work for either of them or the Yankees, it’s just too bad…

  52. GreenBeret7 July 24th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Some numbers on the Yankee GCL infant sluggers

    “jnorris427 Josh Norris

    Santana is 2nd in TB (56), Bichette leads in BBs (22), T.Morton is 7th in ERA (1.82), M. Checo and C. Cowsert both whiff 11.37 per 9.

    Santana is also tied for the lead in XBH (14), David Adams is 3rd in doubles (9), Custodio is 2nd in runs (26) and Santana is 4th (24)

    Ravel Santana is tied for first in bombs (7), Dante Bichette is third in OBP (.448) and Claudio Custodio is fifth (.442)”

  53. blake July 24th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    They probably would have signed Damon this past winter if Jorge wasn’t penciled in as the DH…….I think they should have pushed harder to anyway.

  54. Betsy July 24th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    I absolutely do not blame the Yankees for Damon and Matsui. What were the Yankees supposed to do, write a blank check for Damon? They didn’t want Matsui to play the OF – that was their choice and I agreed with it. Matsui disagreed – so he went elsewhere. Damon? That was all on him – he ended up where he apparently really wanted to be, his true love Detroit, lol. I don’t buy the crap that it was Boras’ fault – Damon’s the boss, he’s the one who goes where he wants. Telling the Yankees to “give me $26 million or don’t bother calling” is not only insulting, but it says that he had no intention of negotiating. I thought the Yankees handled it perfectly. I don’t miss either player.

  55. Betsy July 24th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    http://www.northjersey.com/col.....s_act.html

    If what happened yesterday is true, AJ needs a good talking to from Cashman and Girardi. No player should ever show such disrespect to his manager……..but it’s worse coming from a mediocrity like AJ. If the Yankees’ staff were in better shape, I wouldn’t mind pulling him from a start or two just to show this clown who’s boss, but obviously we can’t afford that (not that his starts are any great shakes)

  56. Betsy July 24th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    I don’t get Klapisch’s last comment – I mean, ok maybe his relationship with AJ isn’t very good anymore (which is all on AJ), but I doubt Hughes is resentful…..I don’t know how Bob concluded that. That vote of no-confidence was well-earned.

  57. Tom in N.J. July 24th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    What the ’09 team had that this team doesn’t have is a .871 OPS from the shortstop and a .885 OPS from the catcher.

  58. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    2007 offseason-”Posada and his agents, Sam and Seth Levinson, had lunch Monday with Mets general manager Omar Minaya and vice president Tony Bernazard. The Yankees initially offered Posada a three-year contract but upped their proposal to four years on Monday evening.”

    Wonder who the Yankees catcher/catchers would have been,2008-2010 had the Mets signed Posada?? He was coming off his best year ever in 2007. Went on to play 51-111-120 games from 2008 thru 2010 and 54 of those games were at DH.

  59. yankee21 July 24th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    YT…. what’s often forgotten by NY fans regarding the 4 year deal given PO after the 2007 season is that at the same time AROD had opted out and was also unsigned.

    Coming off the 2007 season with no guarantee of an AROD bat nor a 2007 Posada bat in the 2008 line-up, NYY was really over a barrel in having to sign Posada to a 4 year deal or risk losing him too (probable NY mets).

    I don’t fault Cashman for this deal, it just hasn’t worked out as good as envisioned.

  60. Crawdaddy July 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Betsy,

    What excuse did NYYFans.com use to RO you?

  61. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Betsy-

    Attached is John Harper’s NY Daily News article on the need for another starter. There’s a picture of AJ having the ball removed from his glove by Girardi on page one and page 2 addresses AJ’s demeanor.

    I think he was frustrated with the umps calls and himself!!

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....arter.html

  62. blake July 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    I don’t begrudge Jorge for getting as long a deal as he could…..the Yanks could have always called his bluff.

  63. Chip July 24th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 11:12 am
    I wouldn’t mind at all if the A’s decided to leave Rich Harden and Craig Breslow here in NY when they head out of town.

    —————————-
    Chip-
    Lefties are hitting close to .400 against lefty Breslow!

    Harden maybe in the bullpen as this years Kerry Wood would be OK with me.

    —————-

    I wouldn’t waste Harden in the pen – he was hurt but since he’s come back he’s actually been very good (ERA not withstanding)

    I don’t see Cashman going out and getting a guy like Ubaldo or paying the ransom that Ed Wade wants for Wandy.

    To me that leaves two guys who are (or should be) available that fit within the framework that Cashman would want to do (as in mid level prospects only) and that’s Harden and Erik Bedard – given the way Hughes looked and the Nova injury I wouldn’t be against picking up both of those guys for the stretch run.

  64. Yank1 July 24th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    “What the ’09 team had that this team doesn’t have is a .871 OPS from the shortstop and a .885 OPS from the catcher.”

    Or the .940 OPS 1st baseman
    Or the .933 OPS 3rd baseman
    Or the .870 OPS RF
    or the .870 OPS DH
    Even Cano’s OPS this year is down from 09

    Or Andy Pettitte.

    Boy, that 09 team was loaded. Everyone except Melky had an OPS north of .860. Far cry from this year’s offense, where only 1 guy might be OVER .860.

  65. Chip July 24th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    blake July 24th, 2011 at 11:45 am
    I don’t begrudge Jorge for getting as long a deal as he could…..the Yanks could have always called his bluff.

    —————

    Agreed – Yankees knew Jorge wasn’t going to be worth it in the last year or two of his deal – they gave it to him anyway. Same with Derek and Alex.

  66. yankee21 July 24th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    AJ was steamed but he has no track record of publicly disrespecting the manager it was damn near 100 degrees out there so AJ was steamed at himself and probably girardi but I’d cut him some slack. Regardless though, Joe made the right call.

    Move on.

  67. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    yankee21-

    Thanks for the feedback on Posada.

  68. blake July 24th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Everyone cam.say until they are blue in the face that the Yankees need a #2 starter…..that wont make one magically appear available on the market though……writing articles about that need is pointless until there is actually the option of getting one.

  69. Ghostwriter July 24th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Tom in N.J. July 24th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    What the ’09 team had that this team doesn’t have is a .871 OPS from the shortstop and a .885 OPS from the catcher.
    ——————————-

    That’s a big part of it. However, the Yanks lost a ton of clutch-hitting in the 2009 offseason when Matsui, Damon, and to a lesser degreee were let go by the Yanks. Obviously, letting Damon go was necessary. However, allowing Matsui to walk was a preventable mistake. Shipping off Cabrera as we did turned out to be a significant error.

    Since the ’09 offseason, I have not seen the Yanks add anybody to the lineup that brings some clutch. As a result, the Yanks are much more susceptible to Tex and Swisher’s slumps.

  70. Yank1 July 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    AJ’s propensity to blow leads, especially late, makes him a very shaky proposition in October. Then again, so is Garcia (because of his stuff, not results) and Hughes.

    It will be a game of musical chairs to see who gets those last 2 rotation spots.

  71. blake July 24th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Actually Joe should have probably pulled him the batter before he did…..when AJ loses the strike zone its often too late before he finds it again.

  72. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Blake and Chip-

    As I said earlier, I don’t think the Rockies had any intention of trading Jimenez, after witnessing him sent out to pitch the 7th inning in a blowout of the Braves, leaving after throwing 120 pitches. Why risk him geting an injury in a game like that?

  73. blake July 24th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Trader,

    I don’t think he will be traded either but they could have also pushed him to show that he’s healthy

  74. Bronx Jeers July 24th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    From the Klap article…

    It was an uncomfortable exchange that could’ve turned uglier, had both men not chosen their words carefully after the game. Burnett insisted he was angry “because I thought some of the pitches [to Conor Jackson and Landon Powell] were close.”

    ——————

    Close? Hey AJ, baseball ain’t hand grenades and in case you haven’t noticed, you aren’t exactly Greg Maddux. :wink:

  75. RadioKev July 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    You know what the Yankees need to do? Play better. This team doesn’t need anything else. There’s no lack of talent on the team, no lack of superstars. It’s all there.

  76. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Wasn’t it reported by Kay/O’Neill yesterdayt that AJ’s ERA is like 5.67 the inning after the Yankees give him a lead?

    Aj has given up the most homers amongst Yankee pitchers 3x more than CC, in less innings. if he cut down on the walks and hit batters many of those homers would be solo shots.

  77. Betsy July 24th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Craw, I got banned for excessive negativity……….date of return: never, lol. I’ve been mining it for laughs since it happened.

    I saw that they banned a couple of others as well. I kind of think it’s becoming a clique over there – there are some favored posters there that can get away with anything. One poster is always saying how mediocre the team is, how _______ is not a good pitcher, etc………but he stays. I honestly think the people who run that board just want a board made up of their favorite posters. I sometimes go onto another computer to check a couple of threads, but I want to stop doing that as they really aren’t worth my time.

  78. GreenBeret7 July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Klaptrap loves to write flame jobs, whether there’s a reason or not. Like virtually every other NY sports writer or columnist lives by the creed, if you don’t have a Sunday story, make one. Kim Jones is another media ass. Burnett acted like every other pitcher, He’s pissed. Whether at Girardi, Welke or himself, who knows, but, it really makes no difference. His reputation will never allow him to get pitches close enough to be called either way. He’s hardly the first pitcher to be pissed about being pulled from a game. He’s pitched plenty of games this year that he had almost zero support from the offense. All you have to do is look at the losses and no decisions where he allowed 3 runs or less in 6+ innings, including 2 1-0 games and 2 of the 2-1 games.

  79. Ghostwriter July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    BTW, let’s not sell the 2011 team short in comparing it to the ’09 team. Here is where the ’09 team was after 98 games:
    NY Yankees 60 W 38 L .612 - 543 RS 466 RA +77 differential

    and the 2011 team:
    NY Yankees 58 W 40 L .592 3 506 RS 380 RA +126 differential

    Three things are evident from this comparison:
    First, the 2011 team is only a little behind the pace of the ’09 team
    Second, the ’11 club doesn’t score as well as their ’09 counterparts
    Third, the ’11 club has much better pitching than the ’09 team, and as a result, a much better run differential.

  80. Betsy July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Eww -Italics.

    I’ve had it up to HERE with AJ…….

  81. Yogi Mantle July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    AJ got burned on a number of pitches that had been called strikes for Harden. AJ probably brings some of that on himself because he isn’t that consistent, but the strike zone SHOULD be the strike zone. Too often these umpires have moving strike zones and it tends to get worse later in the games.

  82. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Ooh, I see the font is listing to the right. Until later. Have to run a few errands before gametime.

    Lefty+daygame= Yankee win!!

  83. Crawdaddy July 24th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Betsy,

    You and I disagree on most things, but I didn’t think you deserved to be RO nor a couple of other posters. I don’t quite understand what is going on over there??? The site has less posting activity now than ever before, but yet, they keep banning posters and some of them for no good reason.

  84. Yogi Mantle July 24th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    I hope Alex isn’t out long. I think his bat in the lineup is kind of like what Gonzalez brings to to the RS. Teixeira is more like Abreu was, not liking it to be the one to carry the team offensively, not that either couldn’t for a stretch, but they don’t seem to quite relax when they are given the role.

  85. Yankee Trader July 24th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Before I go here’s the latest “rumor” from MLBTR’s that’s sure to pique your interest and spark debate:

    Despite publicly insisting they don’t intend to trade Colby Rasmus, the Cardinals have engaged in discussions with the White Sox about the outfielder, reports Joe Strauss of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. Strauss says talks between the two teams have “accelerated” within the last few days.

    According to Strauss, Edwin Jackson and Matt Thornton are among the players who could interest the Cardinals. The Cards would also be looking for minor league talent from the White Sox, and a third team “may be sought to facilitate a deal.”

    The Nationals and Rays also remain interested in Rasmus, who has seen a recent decline in his playing time as Jon Jay has taken over as St. Louis’ primary center fielder.

  86. Ed Whitson July 24th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Remember when we thought Gardner (285, 365 407) was better than Elsbury (319, 377, 515) ?

  87. Betsy July 24th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Craw, I didn’t think I did either. I don’t know if they ban by committee or if one guy getting PO’d is enough, but one guy had it in for me………I guess my comments on Cashman set him off (all I said was that I didn’t like what he said about how he’d hold onto certain prospects, but he has owners). I had half the people on ignore anyway – they really aren’t very nice.

    One guy called Larry Rothshchild “Larry the Jew”………for me, that was grounds for suspension at least, but he got away with it. I abhor censorship and that is how they run their board. They don’t get that fans are up and down about their team depending on how the team is doing – it’s called passion. They are trying to get people to toe the line and be constantly positive about every aspect of the team and it’s just silly.

  88. blake July 24th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Offer Nova for Rasmus…..he has more value than Jackson does.

  89. G. Love July 24th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Seeing the OPS stats for the 09 team is my answer to all the apologists who insist offense is down is league wide this year so it’s okay for Tex to hit ..240 and Posada to hit .220.

    There were no PED’s in 09. No amphetamines.

    What changed in 2 years? It’s certainly that pitching hasn’t gotten better. It’s not that the mound is higher.

    Is it a dead ball conspiracy?

    I don’t think it’s any of those. I think this team goes off and scores double digits once every 7-10 games and rests on their collective laurels offensively off of that performance.

    The problem isn’t the league wide drop in offense. The Yankees haven’t subbed out offensive performers for defensive/speed wizards.

    The problem is the main cogs on this team are performing poorly with their bats and have zero threat of losing playing time for various reasons. Long term contracts, no trade clauses and 20 million plus a season takes away an awful lot of fear that you need to keep performing at a high level night in night out.

    I think the mix of guys in the clubhouse is wrong. I would love Cashman to do a shock trade and send Swisher out in a deal and upgrade the offense somehow. I think that would send the message that it doesn’t matter how well you are with the media and PR. It’s about who you do in between the lines.

    A lot of these are just coasting waiting for the next offensive barrage day where they all chip in with meaningless HR’s and RBI’s with the game already decided.

    I hope they don’t trade Montero as I want to see new hungry blood on this team again.

    I also want to see the team stop being so darn patient believing all these ridiculous slumps will even out and everything will look like the back of the baseball of the card by seasons end.

    The only thing the back of Tex’s baseball will tell you is he’s gotten worse the past 4 years offensively. Same with Posada.

    Change the lineup up and get some new blood up here. You have a young core of Cano, Grandy and Gardner to build around. You need to add another higher average impact bat to that mix.

    As for AJ, at least he didn’t go out and give up 7 yesterday. He keeps the games close enough that the team has a chance to win if they could hit consistently.

  90. LockDown July 24th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 24th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Klaptrap loves to write flame jobs, whether there’s a reason or not. Like virtually every other NY sports writer or columnist lives by the creed, if you don’t have a Sunday story, make one. Kim Jones is another media ass. Burnett acted like every other pitcher, He’s pissed. Whether at Girardi, Welke or himself, who knows, but, it really makes no difference. His reputation will never allow him to get pitches close enough to be called either way. He’s hardly the first pitcher to be pissed about being pulled from a game. He’s pitched plenty of games this year that he had almost zero support from the offense. All you have to do is look at the losses and no decisions where he allowed 3 runs or less in 6+ innings, including 2 1-0 games and 2 of the 2-1 games.
    ——

    Agreed.

    The last couple of pitchers Girardi has taken out didn’t want to leave and Girardi has had to answer the questions about why he did it & the reactions of the pitchers.

    Not sure why this needs to get blown out of proportion. I can understand AJ’s frustration especially on the back door pitch, which had been called all day as a strike by the umpire. But that’s baseball. :lol:

    What surprised me was Garcia’s reaction to Nunez boggling error, though I understand it ;) He cursed & slammed his fist. But I think that was just in the heat of the moment and not a propensity of his or any of our pitches. And his frustration may have in part been do to Girardi about to pull him.

    I think the media just likes to make something out of nothing. And the reporters constantly asking these annoying repetitive questions can’t be easy. I just don’t see the big deal with any of this.

  91. Betsy July 24th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    GLove, and he also showed complete disrespect to his manager…..that’s fantastic. Given how many games where he’s completely blown up, though not this year, he doesn’t get a pass.

  92. joeman July 24th, 2011 at 12:23 pm

    Ed Whitson July 24th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Remember when we thought Gardner (285, 365 407) was better than Elsbury (319, 377, 515) ?
    —————————-
    not me


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