HOPE Week begins with Daniel’s Music Foundation
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 25, 2011 
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This is the first day of HOPE Week. As usual, the Yankees have given the media some advance notice about their plans, but the details are embargoed until noon on the day of each event. Here’s the team’s announcement about today’s first event. As always, these are incredible stories.
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The New York Yankees are proud to kick off HOPE Week 2011 (Helping Others Persevere & Excel) on Monday by celebrating Daniel Trush and Daniel’s Music Foundation (DMF). Yankees players Russell Martin, Nick Swisher, Francisco Cervelli, Hector Noesi and Chris Dickerson will celebrate the honorees by surprising them at the Brooks Atkinson Theatre prior to their Broadway debut. The players will rehearse with DMF singers and musicians, then take to the stage as part of the performance. The Yankees will then invite the group back to Yankee Stadium to sing the national anthem and attend that evening’s 7:05 p.m. game vs. Seattle.
The Yankees will be joined by former Yankee and Latin Grammy Award nominee Bernie Williams, Broadway stars from Anything Goes, Book of Mormon, Catch Me If You Can, Million Dollar Quartet and Wonderland along with other special guests, who will all lend their talents to the performance.
THE STORY OF DANIEL TRUSH AND DANIEL’S MUSIC FOUNDATION
In March 1997, one of five undiagnosed arterial brain aneurysms burst inside the head of then-12-year-old Daniel Trush. When he awoke after a 30-day coma, he could not speak or move, remaining largely incapacitated throughout his 341-day hospital stay.
Music was the most important part of Daniel’s healing process from Day 1. His father, Ken, sang to him in the hospital and kept music constantly playing on a bedside stereo. Upon returning home, Daniel embarked on music therapy classes, which sparked his mind, body and soul.
His transformation was so incredible that in February 2006, his family established Daniel’s Music Foundation (DMF), a not-for-profit organization which provides free music instruction to individuals with disabilities in the five boroughs of New York City. Programs are open to the widest range of individuals possible without limitations on age, disability or talent.
From one five-person class five years ago to 150 people in 26 on-site and three-off site classes today, DMF serves those with such disabilities as blindness, paralysis, autism, cerebral palsy, Down syndrome, brain injury and other developmental disabilities. Classes regularly perform outreach at their twice-yearly music celebrations and offer customized performances at schools, hospitals, rehabilitation centers and nursing homes.
The entire Trush family participates in DMF, including Ken, who oversees the operations and finances of the foundation, Daniel’s mother Nancy, who supervises the functioning of the classes, and Daniel’s brother Michael, who serves as a mentor and informal counselor to many of the participants. Daniel focuses on the music itself in addition to being the life force of the foundation.
“Daniel could have been a victim,” Ken said. “He could have been a cheerleader, giving motivational speeches about how far he has come. But that Knute Rockne stuff only goes so far. He works with our students every day. He gives those with disabilities a forum where they can prosper and be the people they were meant to be.”
# MTU July 25th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Blake-
If you offer Nova, what do you do if Hughes can’t handle it ? Who fills the rotation slot ?
Nova is a proven commodity and right now may be better than Hughes.
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Which shows how fast things can change.
That’s awesome.
Every year, HOPE week makes me proud to be a Yankee fan.
HOPE week is such a great thing…..maybe the best thing the Yankees do all year.
MTU,
I think.Noesi might be better than Nova now…..he’s my safety net…..or they could also deal for a back end guy.
AAO-
I haven’t given up on Hughes yet.
Just saying that IMO the Yankees need to keep their insurance policy- His name is Ivan Nova.
If you knew that Hughes was gonna return to form that would be different. But we don’t.
# MTU July 25th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
AAO-
I haven’t given up on Hughes yet.
Just saying that IMO the Yankees need to keep their insurance policy- His name is Ivan Nova.
If you knew that Hughes was gonna return to form that would be different. But we don’t.
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True Hughes is an unknown now. You are probbly one of the few fans behind. A number of fans have reached the point where they are done with waiting for him to reach his potential. Heck a group of fans want him moved at the deadline.
MTU,
I wouldn’t let that stand in the way of getting a 24 year with Rasmus’s talent though……any trade for someone good is gonna hurt a little…..they wouldn’t have Granderson now if they had held firm on Kennedy.
I still believe in Hughes long term…..just not sure what he will be the rest of this.year.
Blake-
For me Noesi shows potential only. I have no idea how how he would fare as a starter.
Nova has already SHOWN he can succeed.
Don’t put the cart before the horse.
If you want to trade Nova you need to know you already have a proven backup for Hughes, or Colon/Garcia.
There is definitely a certain amount of uncertainty and risk within our rotation.
Nova is great insurance. The others not so much.
alright so right now with fans behind Hughes it’s two with MTU and Blake. Let’s see if that number grows.
AAO-
Blake just spoke for me on Hughes. I’m still hoping he comes around though.
If he does not continue to progress I’d replace him with Nova.
Blake-
Sorry. Bad attempt at humor. Was trying to avoid LOL or an emoticon.
MTU-
Craig Breslow. I just was talking to his Uncle yesterday. He’s from New Haven, went to Yale and rooms with Andrew Bailey. His Uncle wouldn’t mind him on the Yankees, closer to home.
Can anyone name the last MLB player, since Breslow to attend Yale? I was asked that, didn’t know, and had to google it.
What is up fellas!
What an exciting week this is going to be. NFL lockout going to be lifted today. Trade deadline. Did you guys here about the Jets owner getting all his employees in a meeting today and telling them all that they would be paid in the rears for the days they were in lockout? How classy is that.
After watching Burnett and Hughes this weekend. Im convinced we will have another starter by this weekend. We cant go into the playoffs with half of our starters being crap shoots. Wouldnt mind a DH/3B while were at it. How much is David Wright owed? Wouldnt hurt to have him patrolling third while Alex gets some reps and rest at the dh spot.
I had to google it too, my first reaction was “he went to yale?”
YankeesInk Just shared a smooch with Jane Lang, one of last years’ HOPE Week honorees, who is in the audience for today’s special performance.
YT-
Most of the time at the TD it is better to think small and hope you are pleasantly surprised.
Even if we did nothing i still think we have enough to make the playoffs.
So I’m not expecting too much. If we get more great.
I didn’t realize you were so connected.
I’m sorry it was the last player before, not since, Craig Breslow at Yale.
MTU,
Thing is….Nova isn’t even in the big leagues and Hughes is.essentially their 5th starter based on performance. My point is that in this hypothetical situation I don’t see how you could pass on a 24 year old talented outfielder that’s controlled for years to keep insurance on the back end of a rotation that’s making the playoffs already most likely. Also Noesi has already shown he can get big league hitters out.
Trader,
I gotcha
MYU-
Nice older gentleman who works at COSTCO, who engaged me in baseball talk.
Someone yesterday [Bojo?]asked if I could bring back Hernandez or Jimenez from COSTCO, but my cart didn’t have enough room.
SoS-very glad the lockout is over. It was going to be a long fall/winter with no Colts.
Ghostwriter no that’s not our only evidence. Just so you know.
eduardo was cordial to everyone. So was northwest yankee fan. They were both our boy C R 9. No big deal since he already said he has lots of identities here and some appear to be “normal” posters.
Party on.
YT, didn’t Ron Darling of the Mets go to Yale?
Blake-
In my mind Nova isn’t only insurance for Hughes. Others as well. Higher up in the food chain.
Noesi has shown he can start. He has ability but isn’t seasoned. Big difference.
Would I like Rasmus ? Sure. At the right price and conditions.
He’s more of a luxury than a necessity IMO.
Now if you’re talking kemp or JU ? that’s different.
# MTU July 25th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
AAO-
Blake just spoke for me on Hughes. I’m still hoping he comes around though.
If he does not continue to progress I’d replace him with Nova.
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That’s not a bad idea especially since Nova was progressing as a starter as he gained more experience.
Erin,
Now if Manning can only get Mr. Miyagi to work on his neck we’d be good to go.
Edit: Hasn’t shown. Sorry.
One thing I don’t like about this up coming series is that the Mariners have been on such a long losing streak that it seems unlikely that they will go out of this series winless.
I don’t mind so much when the Yankees face a hot team that has a long winning streak for the same reason.
I hope that the M’s losing streak stretches out at least to the end of this series. That might be asking a lot though.
Send Warren, Phelps, and Brackman to St. Louis for Colby Rasmus. Maybe Dave Duncan can work his magic with Brackman.
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AAO-
My guess is that’s the backup plan at the moment.
I want all of our young guys to succeed though.
MTU,
I understand…..I just think that sometimes what seems like a luxury turns out to be something else. The Yanks need young position players.
SoS July 25th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Erin,
Now if Manning can only get Mr. Miyagi to work on his neck we?d be good to go.
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Exactly.
Wave
I don’t think lefty reliever is a pressing need and I would prefer they don’t spend assets on it.
I think the Yankees would be wise to get a starter, even of the Kuroda/Jackson/Bedard variety. And I agree they need a DH. Or a RF to bump Swish to DH.
yanks4ever,
Nobody cares dude
I just think that guys like Pence or Ubaldo or Rasmus are winter trades not in-season guys.
For example, the Yankees, in the heat of a pennant race aren’t going to take a guy or two out of their rotation right now to get Rasmus – they would do it over the winter when there’s ample time to replace the guys they’re trading away.
I still think Rasmus to the Marlins for either Sanchez or Nolasco and another player is the deal that makes the most sense.
Imagine that outfield, Morrison, Stanton and Rasmus…geez.
JCPD July 25th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
YT, didn’t Ron Darling of the Mets go to Yale?
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Yes.
I told his Uncle that I knew of a Princeton grad who pitches for the Pirates-Russ Ohlendorf, but didn’t remember that Darling went to Yale.
Blake-
I understand your perspective too.
Got an app’t. Have to run soon.
Talk more later. This time of the year unnerves some. Personally, i enjoy it. It’s always fun to imagine how the Yankees can be even better.
I would love BJ Upton to play RF and move swish to DH… that outfield would be fantatic for defense and provide some pop and speed
Hi –
Just caught a bit of the game highlights from yesterday. Did Jimenez really get lit up by Arizona? What’s going on there? He doesn’t seem like a sure thing to me.
“Imagine that outfield, Morrison, Stanton and Rasmus…geez.”
I like Gardner, Granderson, Rasmus better
Trivia. GB do you know this one. I certainly didn’t.
Only catcher other than Joe Mauer, to win a batting title.
My answer: Yogi Berra-wrong!!
Joe-
Jimenez 101 pitches in 5 innings, 8 hits, 5 runs, 2 walks, 8 strikeouts, Upton 4-4 in a 7-0 shutout in Phoenix. ERA now 4.20
# MTU July 25th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
AAO-
My guess is that’s the backup plan at the moment.
I want all of our young guys to succeed though.
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So do I and it’s so frustrating when they don’t.
“I don’t think lefty reliever is a pressing need and I would prefer they don’t spend assets on it. ”
As far as the regular season is concerned I agree, but another lefty reliever would really improve the Yanks’ chances of getting past Boston in the playoffs.
# blake July 25th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
MTU,
I understand…..I just think that sometimes what seems like a luxury turns out to be something else. The Yanks need young position players.
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Wasn’t part of the idea of stockpiling arms to trade the surplus and acquire impact bats? They did that with Curtis and Swisher. It will be interesting to see them do another move like that.
Dr James Andrews probably already has a slot in his schedule set aside for the Yanks next LOOGY
it would be interesting*
Take Matt Garza off the trade list.
Jim Hendry is saying that the Cubs are going to compete next year; odds are that means he’s disinclined to trade one of his top starters this week.
bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
I would love BJ Upton to play RF and move swish to DH… that outfield would be fantatic for defense and provide some pop and speed
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I find it hard to believe that the Rays would deal with the Yankees in any significant way.
Against all,
Yes…..that’s the type deal Cashman has tended to look for recently. Trade excess for guys that have several years of control. If the Yanks coukd do that for a guy with Rasmus’s talent then they should think about it.
Quentin + Thorton is a very nice package
Trader – sounds like he had a bad day.
Look, anybody can have a clunker. King Felix got beat around by Boston, and I don’t anybody’s going to turn him down from their team. But, something’s going on with Jimenez – the loss of velocity, not being nearly as dominating as first half of last year.
It might be that 2010 was the outlier, that he really isn’t that good. And I know he looked pretty OK when he pitched against the Yankees. But, with the diminished velocity that’s been reported, and all, I wonder what’s going on. I’m sure/hope that the pro scouts have a handle on it.
I don’t think for a moment that the Cardinals would trade Colby Rasmus to the Yankees.
But hypothetically, if its at all possible, he’s the exact kind of player who Cashman should be looking to acquire.
For one, he’s young and cost controlled. He’s made a big time impact in the MLB before; he’s not something as unquantifyable and unpredictable as your run of the mill top prospect. But his performance hasn’t exploded to the point in which he’d be impossible to acquire. And his performance this year may even mean you could attempt to really buy low on him.
An outfield of Gardner, Granderson, and Rasmus for next year would be young, athletic, and explosive. You’d be hard pressed to ever find a ball that would drop in that outfield, and between Grandy and Rasmus you have the potential for both of them to combined aggregate a .280/.360/.540 line and combine for 75-80 homers. As an improving player Rasmus would help ward off the inevitable effects of continued declines from Arod, Jeter, and even Teixeira.
I’m not sure why Tony LaRussa doesn’t like Colby Rasmus. Maybe its because he’s extremely confrontational and doesn’t appreciate the subtle brashness and arrogance that a young stud like Colby Rasmus brought with him to a team that hasn’t seen a player like that in years. Pujols, Edmonds, Rolen, and to a lesser degree rotation stalwarts like Carpenter and Wainwright exude the exact opposite types of vibes as he does.
But there’s no doubt in my mind that Rasmus is a generational type talent in the outfield. If you can steal him, I’d make every effort to try and do it.
He’s one of the few players in the game I’d consider trading Montero for.
What Hendry means is that they are going to give the illusion of trying to compete from 4th place again next year and sit back and collect the Wrigley cash flow……
Joelsherman1 Heard #Whitesox scouts are spending a lot of time on systems of #Yankees #Redsox #Phillies in case they sell at deadline
# blake July 25th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
Against all,
Yes…..that’s the type deal Cashman has tended to look for recently. Trade excess for guys that have several years of control. If the Yanks coukd do that for a guy with Rasmus’s talent then they should think about it.
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Yep it’s definitely something to think about. It would help the offense going forward.
Dr James Andrews probably already has a slot in his schedule set aside for the Yanks next LOOGY
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My concern is that Soriano might jump to the head of the pack, before another LOOGY.
Twins get: Eduardo Nunez, David Phelps, and another couple of prospects
Yankees get: Liriano and Jason Kubel
Lineup (until Alex gets back)
Gardner
Jeter
Granderson
Tex
Cano
Swisher
Kubel
Chavez
Martin
GC,
I find it unlikely as well but everything you said is correct (except the Montero part for me
. There was talk about a deal around Edwin Jackson for him…..if that’s true then the Yanks should be sniffing around to see what he will cost.
Erin
Is there a team in the majors with more expensive dead wood than the White Sox?
Adam Dunn
Alex Rios
Jake Peavy
The Yanks should not trade for Jimenez. I think they shouldnt trade for a pitcher at all unless its a proven ace. Rather call Pettitte and tell him to lace em up and come on down.
Cashman’s cred is on the line; unfortunately he has a built in excuse if he doesn’t substantially improve the team. “No one was available”, “they cost too much”, etc. Those things may be true but the bottom line is, get it done.
Chip,
Id consider that deal…..only issue is I don’t want the possibility of Pena having to play SS or 2B if Jeter or Cano go down. Nunez is good insurance there…..
JimmyTraina A-Rod enjoying his time on the disabled list: http://bit.ly/nSAOD8
Cashman’s cred is on the line; unfortunately he has a built in excuse if he doesn’t substantially improve the team. “No one was available”, “they cost too much”, etc. Those things may be true but the bottom line is, get it done.
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Agree.
Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 12:38 pm
Trivia. GB do you know this one. I certainly didn’t.
Only catcher other than Joe Mauer, to win a batting title.
My answer: Yogi Berra-wrong!!
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Bubbles Hargrave or Ernie Lombardi. I’ll go with Lombardi.
Think about Jimenez in context of who he pitches the lion’s share of games against, the NL West. Consider that 1/2 his games are against (2) of the worst offenses in the ML (SF and SD)
and he still is sporting an ERA north of 4. To me that speaks of a trade target that is a red flag.
Sure, he is a viable target, sure he is a good guy to have as a potential #2, but with only 1/2 season of true dominance followed up by the 2H of 2010 which was ehhh and this year’s performance which is just ok,, he is hardly a guy I’d move major pieces for.
Based on COL reported asking price being the moon, I hope Cashman counters with a phone click.
blake July 25th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Chip,
Id consider that deal…..only issue is I don’t want the possibility of Pena having to play SS or 2B if Jeter or Cano go down. Nunez is good insurance there…..
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Make a follow up trade and send a B level guy to Houston for Clint Barmes
SI_JonHeyman
tigers really want kuroda. mccourt really wants to pay his laundry bill. a match?
Wonder if Edwin Jackson is Bronx bound…….Ever since he came up with The Dodgers ( too early ), I’ve always loved the guys arm……
Chip-
Why would the Twins do that deal?
Does anyone agree that Eduardo Nunez looks very much like an internal heir to Jeter as of now?
Sure, his defense has sucked. But his problems aren’t tools related. He has a strong arm, quick feet, and gets good reads on balls. They seem to be focus and consistency related, something that a good winter of hard work and spring of intense coaching could fix.
You have to love the guy’s bat. I’d love to see him spend the offseason working on becoming a true super utility guy, someone who could play both outfield corners and every infield position in a pinch. He should be able to get 350-400 plate appearances at least between that role and spotting starters in the event of injuries.
Pat M
I like Jackson too.
Wave
I’m not a big LOOGY. I prefer just going with good relievers than playing matchup. I think with DRob, Sori, and Mo they have plenty to get lefties out in big spots.
Pat M. July 25th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Wonder if Edwin Jackson is Bronx bound…….Ever since he came up with The Dodgers ( too early ), I’ve always loved the guys arm……
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Edwin Jackson a FA, is making 8.35M. I agree, but what do you think it would take-One of Phelps or Mitchell + B prospect and taking on the remainder of the salary? More?
If the Yankees acquire a starter who gets bumped from the rotation?
How could you justify bumping anyone but Hughes out of the starting 5 at this point?
If they do bump Hughes, do they put him in the pen or send him down?
I feel like Cashman has to do something to improve DH and find a suitable LH reliever at the bare minimum.
If next Sunday night we’re still penciling Jorge in for the majority of at bats at DH against RHP, Cashman failed to do his job.
YankeesInk Show’s about to begin. Performance will be joined by Bernie, Romeo, Suzyn Waldman, swisher, cervelli, Martin and Dickerson.
Kuroda leads the NL in wild pitches. Burnett, of course, leads the AL.
Would be kind of fun to get those two together and send Montero out there to catch.
West Coast Yankee Fan July 25th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
Cashman’s cred is on the line; unfortunately he has a built in excuse if he doesn’t substantially improve the team. “No one was available”, “they cost too much”, etc. Those things may be true but the bottom line is, get it done.
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Well what if those two excuses bear out to be true?
What if the only players available represent marginal upgrades over what’s here – like a Brett Myers for example – and Houston is firm on wanting Jesus Montero and Dellin Betances for him?
It’s all well and good to sit here and say that we want this player or that player because he will improve the Yankees; but every GM who is offering a player is doing so with the belief that what they get back will substantially help their team.
The landscape of the game has changed. Whereas a couple of years ago you could count on bad teams having a couple of good players that they couldn’t afford and the Yankees could sweep in and scoop them up that’s not the case anymore.
Fausto Carmona would’ve been a good bet to fill that role this year, but lo and behold the Indians are in a playoff race and thus have no reason to part with Carmona. The Mariners stink but trading King Felix isn’t going to help them get better and he’s signed to a contract that the team has no issue with. Pirates have a couple of arbitration eligible pitchers, but they’re in first place in their division.
The best crop of players that you would want is with the Dodgers, but their ownership situation makes it impossible for them to trade away a guy like Kemp or Kershaw and then you have teams like the Twins and White Sox who aren’t playing well now but also aren’t going to turn around and give away their players because they know that they’ll be right back in the hunt next year…sure the Twins might be willing to part with a guy like Liriano or Kubel, but they’re not coming cheap.
G-C,
While I wouldn’t freak out if the Yanks traded Nunez for an important piece they need for right now, I do like him an awful lot. With Jeter and Arod getting up there he plays an important role on this team and offers more offensive ability than a guy like Pena does. He has a live bat. He runs fast. He’s a nice lineup addition in my eyes. The defensive issues stink though, but I think that’s just a matter of him getting more reps/confidence in the field.
That said, if he cost an important game w/a bad throw, the fans would want him drawn and quartered.
“How could you justify bumping anyone but Hughes out of the starting 5 at this point?”
You can’t. If winning is the goal this year, he is the one bumped from the rotation. About time they stop catering to him and trying to force him down our throat.
G.Love – you’re preachin’ to the choir, here.
1. Unless it’s a clear upgrade over the rotation now, it doesn’t make sense to trade for another SP, unless it’s a prelude to another deal of some sort.
2. They absolutely need to upgrade the DH spot. Jorge is so far below the grade, it’s not funny. Again, this is not meant to belittle all that he has meant to the franchise in the past, but the past is the past.
G. Love,
I’m not expecting them to acquire a starter at this point.
I really don’t see anyone out there worth adding.
I think we’ll have done better for ourselves both this year and in the long term by standing pat and hoping for Colon and Hughes to fill out the front of the rotation.
Its not as outrageous of an assumption as everyone here seems to think it is.
Chip – good well thought out post. It may very well be that this week there is not a good match for the Yankees out there. My point about Cashman and ownership is this. That we have needs should not have been a surprise. When Pettitte retired and Lee went away we knew we had rotation problems. We lucked out with Colon and Garcia but how long will they remain healthy and effective? We have no number two for the post season.
I think pitching is more important, but hitting wise we are an aging team in some key positions, DH, SS, 3B and maybe at 1B to a lesser extent. This was no surprise either.
It’s Cashman’s job to get things done. There is a reason that the media almost unanimously picked the Sux this year. If we want to win it all in 2011, I don’t think the odds of doing it with this team we have now are great. Maybe I will be wrong; I hope so.
“You can’t. If winning is the goal this year, he is the one bumped from the rotation. About time they stop catering to him and trying to force him down our throat.”
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This assumption is one that really bugs me.
How have the Yankees ever “catered to Phil Hughes” and “forced him down our throats?”
In 2009, they removed him from the starting rotation when he had made clear progress for an ineffective Chien Ming Wang. They’re lucky that one didn’t cost them more so than it did. Nevertheless, he thrived in his role as a reliever. Last year, he won 18 games and pitched one of the most dominant playoff games I’ve seen a Yankee starter toss in my years as a fan. His second half performance was hardly as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Aside from a couple of ERA inflating outings, he kept the team in games and came up huge in critical spots, including a season saving start against Boston in September.
Did you seriously expect the Yankees to make Hughes “earn” his way back to the rotation after the mystery injury saga that THEY caused by misdiagnosing tendinitis in the first place? An all star and one of the most talented players on this team would have to “earn” his way back to replace a guy with a 1.47 WHIP and 51/37 K to BB ratio in 91 innings?
Please. The way Hughes gets treated by Yankee fans in these circles is almost disgusting.
G. Love July 25th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
If the Yankees acquire a starter who gets bumped from the rotation?
How could you justify bumping anyone but Hughes out of the starting 5 at this point?
If they do bump Hughes, do they put him in the pen or send him down?
I feel like Cashman has to do something to improve DH and find a suitable LH reliever at the bare minimum.
If next Sunday night we’re still penciling Jorge in for the majority of at bats at DH against RHP, Cashman failed to do his job.
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Agree 100%. I’d put him in the pen if we get another starter… enough with the fantasies that he is the guy who started the first 6 games last year and he will be some #2 starter in the fall. It is based on nothing but wishful thinking.
Also Agree on Jorge. Whoever proposed that Carlos Quinten and Thorton trade – that would be perfect. Fill 2 spots of need.
Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
Chip-
Why would the Twins do that deal?
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Nunez gives them a legit SS
Phelps slots into their rotation next year
the other prospects are prospects.
The Twins have been looking to move Liriano as he’s starting to get expensive. Kubel is a FA after this season, not a particularly good OF and they need to free up DH for Morneau and Mauer going forward.
NotHankStein It’s Hope Week! Selfishly, I hope stupid sexy Hal gives me an advance on my allowance. Really want to see Zookeeper again!
And now, to make things even more hilarious, fans want him to be evaluated on a “start-to-start” basis when making the postseason is at this point a near certainty.
Bear in mind, his progress is pretty much what the Yankees postseason hopes are likely to be hinging on.
So you might want to be careful in how quickly you dump him from the rotation for Ivan Nova, who would have to be an worm under the dirt of the mound to get anywhere near a playoff start.
if what think is right, ans the yankees can get to the playoffs with this staff, but not win the WS, then i am throwing Johan Santana’s name out there again.
He may be ready by then, he is a lefty and he is an ACE.
Joe From LI,
I don’t trade for a mediocre starting pitcher. Edwin Jackson, is to me, a mediocre starting pitcher.
You have a better option in Nova sitting in the minors. You may also have an even better option in Noesi who I am really starting to want to see become a starter here. He’s grown on me a lot.
The Yankees shouldn’t be trading for a back/mid rotation type. That’s not what they really need. Doing so will upset the rotation they already have unless they are intent on moving Hughes to the pen or the minors. I would not take away Garcia or Colon’s spots. They both are huge reasons why this team is where they are in the standings.
If we go trade good stuff for Edwin Jackson I would be disappointed. If we get him for a song, that’s a different story, but I don’t think he’s that great to begin with. I guess he’s an upgrade on Hughes, but I don’t see him being an upgrade on anyone else presently in the rotation.
Joelsherman1 Nova (ankle) pitches sim game tonite, if he is all right, he is most likely for 7/30 DH v. #Orioles, if not Adam Warren will be guy
“Did you seriously expect the Yankees to make Hughes “earn” his way back to the rotation after the mystery injury saga that THEY caused by misdiagnosing tendinitis in the first place? An all star and one of the most talented players on this team would have to “earn” his way back to replace a guy with a 1.47 WHIP and 51/37 K to BB ratio in 91 innings?”
At this point, he is a guy with a good half season under his belt surrounded by an array of various injuries. He also has one and a half real pitches.
There are hundreds and hundreds of guys with good half seasons in the league. If Cashman is hinging our postseason chances on him, that would be the height of irresponsibility. It’s not 2006 anymore. It’s not Trenton. It’s the big leagues. Nova is a better pitcher than him at the present time. We’re not talking about upside, what he was projected to be, what he did last year – we’re dealing with the present.
“if what think is right, ans the yankees can get to the playoffs with this staff, but not win the WS, then i am throwing Johan Santana’s name out there again.”
I wouldn’t mind at all. He’s not the Minnesota Santana, but he is still a guy who could be a front line guy in the AL. He’s reinvented himself nicely. Have to check him out extensively, though.
West Coast Yankee Fan July 25th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
Chip – good well thought out post. It may very well be that this week there is not a good match for the Yankees out there. My point about Cashman and ownership is this. That we have needs should not have been a surprise. When Pettitte retired and Lee went away we knew we had rotation problems. We lucked out with Colon and Garcia but how long will they remain healthy and effective? We have no number two for the post season.
I think pitching is more important, but hitting wise we are an aging team in some key positions, DH, SS, 3B and maybe at 1B to a lesser extent. This was no surprise either.
It’s Cashman’s job to get things done. There is a reason that the media almost unanimously picked the Sux this year. If we want to win it all in 2011, I don’t think the odds of doing it with this team we have now are great. Maybe I will be wrong; I hope so.
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I agree that it’s Cash’s job to get things done, but just because he (and we) would like things to get done he can’t just make it happen, nor is he going to dismantle what he views as the future of the organization, to make a quick fix deal.
Objectively looking at the trade market I don’t see a clear upgrade in the rotation available.
Ubaldo’s name was floated out there but it seems that everyone agrees that it was a test balloon by O’Dowd to see what he could get for him. Other than that…I don’t see someone who is better than what the Yankees have in the rotation and if Colon or Garcia stumble down the stretch Nova is in AAA.
In the lineup – yes the Yankees need to upgrade at DH, but Chavez will be back tonight or tomorrow and Alex will be back in early August. Could the team still upgrade? Absolutely, but how much are you willing to sacrifice for bench depth? I would be fine with the Yankees giving up a couple of non-descript guys to add a Giambi or Wiggington or maybe go a little higher for Kubel – but that’s about it.
If those guys can’t be had at that price then I would hope Cash would walk away. Yankees overpaid for Xavier Nady and Damaso Marte – I would hate to see that happen again this year.
Sometimes the cliche is true – the best trade is the one you never make.
G. Love July 25th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Joe From LI,
I don’t trade for a mediocre starting pitcher. Edwin Jackson, is to me, a mediocre starting pitcher.
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Edwin Jackson = AJ Burnett.
Melk Man July 25th, 2011 at 1:24 pm
“if what think is right, ans the yankees can get to the playoffs with this staff, but not win the WS, then i am throwing Johan Santana’s name out there again.”
I wouldn’t mind at all. He’s not the Minnesota Santana, but he is still a guy who could be a front line guy in the AL. He’s reinvented himself nicely. Have to check him out extensively, though.
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I said it a couple of weeks ago – if he finishes the season showing he’s healthy then I would much rather see the Yankees trade for Santana this winter than sign CJ Wilson to a 5 year deal.
yeah… unless Jackson, Kuroda, etc. are replacing Hughes (which they should)… then it doesn’t make any sense. the chances of them being upgrades over Colon and Garcia are slim.
wouldn’t mind those guys at all, just as long as they don’t replace one of our effective pitchers. ideally, they would replace burnett. but that’s not happening
Joelsherman1 Soriano 2d game of back-back tonite, if OK, he likely activated Wed. Chavez likely activated tomorrow #Yankees trying to get whole
One thing I feel more and more certain of is that Montero will never be a Yankee. He’s the ultimate trade chip, if you’re holding on to some of the Killer B’s, and at least one of them (Brackman) is likely to be traded.
Yanks have lots of chips to trade right now: Montero, Brackman, Laird, Warren, Phelps, and even Pena. And come offseason, Cervelli could join that list.
As far as Hughes is concerned, and considering how much flak Joba took for his weight gain, it’s funny that very few people have mentioned Hughes conditioning or lack of versus when he first came up. IMO, he’s set for the pen for the balance of the year, or is tradable. I’m no longer convinced he’s #3 caliber starting material.
NotHankStein Red Sox w/a 3 game lead. Normally, this would tick me off but I’m too wrapped up in who is returning to Glee next season to care.
“At this point, he is a guy with a good half season under his belt surrounded by an array of various injuries. He also has one and a half real pitches.”
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The good half season thing is a total myth.
That half season was about twice as good as what Ivan Nova did in the first half this year. Ignore the bloated ERA, look at the strikeouts, walks, and game by game logs. Hughes was by and large very solid in the second half and a significant asset to the Yankees rotation.
He was also one of the best pitchers in baseball between the rotation and ‘pen in 2009
He has a much more impressive MLB resume than most people are for some reason willing to give him credit for.
Also, the “hundreds and hundreds of guys with good half seasons in the league” is also nonsense. I bet you’d be hard pressed to find me a 23 year old who had the type of first half that Hughes had last season who had a severely truncated, not good career. I’m not talking about pitch to contact guys who may be able to BABIP themselves to a half season of a 3.00 ERA, but guys with big strikeout rates, relatively low walk and home runs rates. That doesn’t happen too often.
Can Johan survive in the AL? I always thought he was traded at the right time because his stuff was starting to decline.
Chip that is a valid position; do what you can this year basically with what you have and bet on your prospects to win big in the future. That’s a reasonable posture – as is trading some chips to win now. Time will tell which was the better bet.
I agree with your statement that “sometimes the best trade is the one you never make.” But I would also throw this out there. Not making trades when a prospects value is high can really come back to bite you in the ass later. Joba – Dan Haren is illustrative of that.
Odds of Chavez staying healthy the rest of the year?
Liriano is an improvement over nobody. Last night’s start…78 pitches in 2.1 innings. 6 hits, 4 runs (earned) 4 walks, 3 strikeouts. Those games are as common as his decent ones.
Jackson is also the kind of guy who could throw 7 IP, 1 H, 10 K performance in Fenway I wouldn’t mind taking a gamble on him. Him or Bedard. Kuroda doesn’t do much for us – mid/back end guy.
If we’re not jumping in the front-line pool, I’d take chances on Liriano, Bedard, or E-Jax. I love the Santana idea, but I don’t think ownership wants him locked up for 3.5 more years at big money. I’m all for it though
If the yankees get a young OF with Swisher being the DH, I’m all for it. but they may not need to go that route to reduce Posada’s role in the lineup.
The answer could easily come from Chavez & Arod. Both have the bat & defense, but they are both a health concern (particularly chavez). This is where Nunez comes in and the DH spot.
When Chavez comes back, he’ll play 3b with either Jones/Posada at DH. But due to his frailty, Girardi can easily justify that Chavez shouldn’t do back to back at 3B at the onset and should get some DH work to get his bat going. This allows for Nunez 3b/Chavez DH a couple of times a week.
Once A-Rod comes back, he’ll definitely need DH days. So you can have a combination of
1) Chavez 3B/Arod DH
2) Nunez 3B/Arod DH
3) Arod 3d/Posada-Jones-Chavez-whomever needs a day off in the field DH
If they bring up Montero, he can get a day here or there at DH.
Also, if they decide to get an OF who can hit righties, then Swisher could do some DH and/or spell Teix at 1B
This can all be done gradually with the intention of getting people rest at the DH spot, with the ultimate effect of removing Posada’s bat from the lineup.
My 2012 Yankees:
Martin – C
Tex – 1b
Cano – 2b
Alex – 3b
Jeter – SS
Rasmus – LF (Gardner & Montero)
Granderson – CF
Beltran – RF (FA)
Kubel – DH (FA)
Bench: Cervelli, Laird, Nunez, Golson (or generic reserve OF)
Rotation:
CC
Santana (Noesi & another prospect)
Hughes
AJ
Nova (or Colon on a 1 year deal)
Pen:
RHP: Soriano, Rivera, Robertson, Phelps, Wade
LHP: Logan, Feliciano
oh, in case you’re wondering what happened to Swisher – I don’t pick up his option.
Montero’s numbers, except for doubles (16 to 19 and triples (1 to 3) are well above what he had at this point last year.
West Coast Yankee Fan July 25th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
I agree with your statement that “sometimes the best trade is the one you never make.” But I would also throw this out there. Not making trades when a prospects value is high can really come back to bite you in the ass later. Joba – Dan Haren is illustrative of that.
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Knife cuts both ways – you have to be really good at evaluating your own talent.
Can Johan survive in the AL? I always thought he was traded at the right time because his stuff was starting to decline
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I believe he is good enough to figure out how to work with his declining skills like Mussina did.
He would still be way above average, a lefty, and that combo of CC/Johan looks nice at the top. Bring in Banuelos in a year or so, and that is three lefties in the rotation….
GreenBeret7 July 25th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
Montero’s numbers, except for doubles (16 to 19 and triples (1 to 3) are well above what he had at this point last year.
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he had fewer than 8 HRs at this point last year?
Santana (Noesi & another prospect)
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Chip, if the Yankees took on his 23M/year contract, i would try to hold onto Noesi, and part with something else. I would give up Nova before Noesi…..
ac1 July 25th, 2011 at 1:37 pm
Santana (Noesi & another prospect)
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Chip, if the Yankees took on his 23M/year contract, i would try to hold onto Noesi, and part with something else. I would give up Nova before Noesi…..
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Fair enough.
Montero had 6 last year at this amount of games
Yea Im not sure Jackson is much better than what they have if at all…..plus he’s near the end of his deal so he’s not a cheap project either.
Chip,
That’s too much to trade for Rasmus. I want him in addition to Gardner and Montero…..your team is older not younger.
by the way – I’m not suggesting Montero’s a flop or anything like that. I’m just saying I would be willing to include him in a trade (along with Brett Gardner) for Colby Rasmus.
Gardner AND Montero for Colby Rasmus? Wow
Im not trading Noesi unless a good return is coming back…..he looks like a #3 to me.
No comment.
I am no huge Gardner fan, but i would not trade him now.
His D, his SB issues are gone, and his average is near the top of the team list.
They need his intangibles right now…
Chip,
The Yanks need to add young position players…..no trade 2 to get 1.
blake July 25th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
Im not trading Noesi unless a good return is coming back…..he looks like a #3 to me.
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Agreed, i can see him in the rotation next year….
Blake would you take Santana, if you could so it by taking his remaining salary + Nova and some offensive prospect like Adams?
If the Yanks can get Rasmus by dealing some of the pitching redundancy they have in the system then that’s what Im for.
What has Rasmus ever done to pull a 2 for 1 trade like that?
blake July 25th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Chip,
That’s too much to trade for Rasmus. I want him in addition to Gardner and Montero…..your team is older not younger.
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Blake,
It’s really not.
Rasmus is younger than Gardner, Beltran is younger than Posada, Kubel is younger than Swisher.
In the rotation Santana is replacing Garcia.
Yes, everyone ages by one year, but you can’t change that.
Shame we didn’t offer Berkman a deal last winter. Our DH problem would never have existed. The stumbling block was that they had to do something with Posada and the DH spot was the only option. Much as I love him, we simply can’t afford to carry a passenger at DH if we want to harbor any serious thoughts about overhauling the Big Red Machine that is Boston 2011.
Ac1,
Id keep an open mind regarding Santana….but he’d have to show he’s healthy and somewhere close to the Santana of old before Im taking that contract and including a good young pitcher like Nova……he can’t show that in one week. Now if he came back and pitched well down the stretch and you wanted to consider him for next year to give the kids a little more time…..then maybe.
Serious question.
Why has Hughes gotten so much more rope than Joba did as a starter?
Chip,
But as I said, you’re trading 2 young players for 1 . They need to add young guys without trading the ones they have away. Beltran is old, Kubel is fairly old, Santana is coming off shoulder surgery……
GreenBeret7 July 25th, 2011 at 1:44 pm
What has Rasmus ever done to pull a 2 for 1 trade like that?
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I’m suggesting trading a 21 year old with a stellar minor league bat but no position and Brett Gardner, a very fast, very streaky OF with zero power for a younger OF with better ability in every measurable except speed and a swing that is ideal for Yankee Stadium.
Id keep an open mind regarding Santana….but he’d have to show he’s healthy and somewhere close to the Santana of old before Im taking that contract and including a good young pitcher like Nova……he can’t show that in one week. Now if he came back and pitched well down the stretch and you wanted to consider him for next year to give the kids a little more time…..then maybe.
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Would be ideal, but perhaps the best time to get him is now, before other teams get involved.
I know that is a risk, but he has come back from injury before. Of course, it isn’t my money.
Chip
Gritner and Montero for Rasmus?
Don’t you think it’s a little early to be hitting the sauce?
LGY July 25th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Serious question. Why has Hughes gotten so much more rope than Joba did as a starter?
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Because when healthy, he is a much better starting pitcher. Obviously, the Yankees know this.
LGY July 25th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Serious question.
Why has Hughes gotten so much more rope than Joba did as a starter?
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IMO – it’s because of attitude. Joba is/was always more brash than Hughes (in large part the fault of the fans for the immediate spotlight we put on him) and on the other hand Hughes is quieter, more “Yankee-like”
Last time I checked, Rasmus was hitting under .250.
I’m not trading Montero AND Gardner for him. In fact, I’ll stick with Swisher.
Ac1,
True, but how many other teams would take that contract?
Chip,
Gardner is.better than Rasmus at this moment…..Gardner and Rasmus is what I want
Can’t see the Yanks taking on a contract like Santana’s. That would put them around $ 65 M for three starters in 2012.
Kubel would be a very good fit, but he’s really a platoon DH, emergency OF. You’d need Jones or some RH bat to share time unless they plan on Tex, ARod and Jeter taking turns as the RH hitting DH.
Because when healthy, he is a much better starting pitcher. Obviously, the Yankees know this.
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But this isn’t true.
Very fast? He doesn’t steal bases, he doesn’t score runs, he doesn’t drive runs in, he’s hardly a gold glove outfielder, he doesn’t walk and he doesn’t hit for average. He hits a few home runs. He does strikeout well, though. Looks good doing that.
“But this isn’t true.”
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Correct.
I think Hughes has gotten more rope for reasons related to Joba that we don’t know about.
LGY July 25th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Because when healthy, he is a much better starting pitcher. Obviously, the Yankees know this.
But this isn’t true.
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It is true. The entire professional Yankee organization says it’s true. You are LGY a blogger.
Whats with this Cody love?
Want to impress me with a good RF other than Swisher? Get me Justin Upton.
For HIM I’d trade Montero ++
Last time I looked, Busch Stadium wasn’t exactly a pitcher’s paradise.
A deal for Rasmus is all projection…..that’s why Id only deal things Im in excess for him. Im not trading my starting LFer and my #1 prospect for him and if something like that is what it takes then I pass. I want him because his value is down and Im looking for a bargain on his talent……not.looking to pay full price for potential.
“Why has Hughes gotten so much more rope than Joba did as a starter?”
He is Cashman’s last lifeline to show the world that he can develop pitching prospects.
That, and I feel there were some behind the scenes things with Joba that we don’t know about
Either way, it is starting to become annoying. You hope Manny/Dellin get the rope that this guy did. I bet they would put up better results than he has if they did. Hell, if Joba got another year, he probably would have as well.
It is true. The entire professional Yankee organization says it’s true. You are LGY a blogger.
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Oy. It’s amazing how you find new ways to top your previous stupidity.
LGY – The organization must really believe their stuff translates better with Hughes starting and Joba in the pen. Can’t say I agree… I was always more interested in if Joba could start and didn’t feel he got a chance to prove he couldn’t. And I’m also sure a lot of people would still salavate over the idea of having Phil back in the pen, considering how his brief stint went over with the fan base.
I have a hard time believing any of the superficial s**t though, that it was about attitude or personality. If thats how the Yanks make their decisions I want someone explaining why Randy Levine is still with the organization…
I understand the truth is difficult for you to process LGY. Hughes and Joba have been in the organization for quite some time now and they have been talked about and analyzed ad nauseum.
The consensus is that when healthy Joba is not an effective starting pitcher and Hughes is.
per mlbtraderumors. . ( not sure if its been posted )
The Red Sox, Rangers, Tigers, Blue Jays, Yankees, and Reds scouted Ubaldo Jimenez’s start yesterday in Arizona, tweets SI’s Jon Heyman. Troy E. Renck of the Denver Post tweets that nothing has changed since his column yesterday – the Reds and Yankees make the most sense, with the Rangers, Red Sox, and Tigers lurking. At that point, Renck wrote that the price is huge – at least three players – but the Rockies “haven’t pulled Jimenez off the showroom floor.”
“Why has Hughes gotten so much more rope than Joba did as a starter?”
false hope that he can become what he was projected to in 2006. I think Cash views this guy as his personal project and has a personal vested interest in his success.
Anyone can be an all-star with 9 runs of support a game. Hell, give that to Burnett this year and he has 14-15 wins.
I’d be hard pressed to trade Nova straight up for Rasmus. He fills no needed position. Swisher starts out slow but, at least almost every year, you can mark him down for a .255-.260 average with 20-25 homers and 80 RBI.
Shame
Nice post. Thanks for the responses.
ZMAN July 25th, 2011 at 2:00 pm
“Why has Hughes gotten so much more rope than Joba did as a starter?”
false hope that he can become what he was projected to in 2006. I think Cash views this guy as his personal project and has a personal vested interest in his success.
Anyone can be an all-star with 9 runs of support a game. Hell, give that to Burnett this year and he has 14-15 wins.
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Go back and check out how many of those runs were scored after Hughes was out of the game. More than 30%
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As sad as it sounds, I think personality and this “work ethic/attitude” nonsense had a lot to do with it.
If his injury in 08 was that serious, they would not have brought him back less than a month later, out of the pen, when we were essentially out of the race.
ac1 July 25th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Can Johan survive in the AL? I always thought he was traded at the right time because his stuff was starting to decline ___
I believe he is good enough to figure out how to work with his declining skills like Mussina did. He would still be way above average, a lefty, and that combo of CC/Johan looks nice at the top. Bring in Banuelos in a year or so, and that is three lefties in the rotation
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I guess I have to see it to believe it. You brought up some good points though.
West Coast Yankee Fan July 25th, 2011 at 1:59 pm
Remember with the ‘zipper club’ it always comes back that a reasonable comment is viewed as stupid when he doesn’t have an answer. LOL !
I have been following the Ynakees since 1960 … I watch close to 145 games a year (l love YES) with that said I think this year we should stand pat at the trading deadline unless we can get King Felix … No one else really matters. Why give up the future (next year) for anyone but Felix. I cant see trading Montero or the any of the Killer B’s for whats out there. This year our club is just a wild card and we may get bounced early with the pitching we have. Burnett is a 500 pitcher, Hughes can this guy every stay healthy? We have one maybe two come from behind victories this year. Thats not championship baseball (remember 2009?). And please can someone please tell me what the brass sees in Mitre?
LGY July 25th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Chip
Gritner and Montero for Rasmus?
Don’t you think it’s a little early to be hitting the sauce?
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never too early.
Hank survives on cigarettes and from the blood plasma that Mitre produces.
As long as Mitre can produce plasma, Hank will try to get him on this team so he can feed.