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Trade deadline dead ahead

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 25, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The nonwaiver trade deadline is set for 4 p.m. on Sunday, so you have to wonder what the Yankees are going to do. It’s hard to envision Brian Cashman standing pat. 

The Yankees are 59-40 and 5 1/2 up in the wild card. It’s hard to envision them not making the postseason. But they probably could use some reinforcements for October, especially considering their 1-8 record against the Red Sox so far. They trail Boston by three games. They are also just 6-5 since the break.

“As we move toward the trade deadline, I don’t get too caught up in publicly saying what I think we need or don’t need because we have to win with the guys in the room,” Joe Girardi said. “And that’s what we’ve been doing. You can’t say you wish you can go get this guy or that guy because it takes two teams to trade and a lot of times it doesn’t happen.”

It’s hard to argue with the overall body of work Bartolo Colon and Freddy Garcia have provided this season. Phil Hughes does make you wonder sometimes, though, like he did with Friday’s start. A.J. Burnett has generally kept the Yankees in games and probably should be better than just 8-8. Do they need to acquire another quality starter behind CC Sabathia even if the cost is tremendous? Do you want Ubaldo Jimenez or Wandy Rodriguez here?

And should they bring in another righty bat considering Andruw Jones is at just .218 and Jorge Posada is at .118 from the right side and .223 overall?

What do you think?

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299 Responses to “Trade deadline dead ahead”

  1. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    the first thing that popped into my head when I saw this post’s title was “Iceberg, right ahead!” :lol:

  2. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Now to future predicting:

    Tonight-Vargas loses to Garcia
    Tuesday-Fister loses to CC
    Wednesday-King Felix loses to Hughes and bullpen
    Thursday-with no winning for the Mariners in sight, King Felix demands a trade to the Yankees

  3. Mike Ri July 25th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Do you want Ubaldo Jimenez or Wandy Rodriguez here?
    ——-

    Ubaldo yes , Wandy no ,

    I just don’t see the Yanks pulling a big time trade. Im sure we’ll get someone new. but nothing major.

  4. CountryClub July 25th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    The team will get better this week when Chavez and Soriano return. One adds depth to the bench (not to mention a real 3rd baseman when the team needs one) and the other adds depth to the pen (even if he comes back and is just average).

    I dont see them going after a starter because the ones that are out there are either: 1. not upgrades or 2. will demand way too much from Cash.

    Maybe he goes after a lefty or even a righty for the pen. And MAYBE a 4th outfielder type. But I’d be surprised if they get anything else.

  5. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    im sorry but anybody who thinks chavez is going to be any help is delusional. he will be back on the dl within a week or two. he played one month then went on the dl for 2 1/2 and hasnt played more than a handfull of games without returning to the dl in 3 1/2 years.
    when he went onto the dl with the broken bone in his foot, he said it actually wasnt broken and he’d be back when the dl stint ended in 2 weeks, oops!
    i mean i like the guy but he is pavano with a better attitude.

  6. PittsburghYankeeFan July 25th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Repost from the end of the last thread:

    I just saw the Cards play the Pirates here this weekend. Cards need pitching, but they may be able to win the NL Central with their lineup. They shouldn’t trade anyone.

    Yanks may need a bat, but they have two coming back–ARod and Chavez. Melky to replace Jones? Maybe, but the cost may be to high for a spare part.

    In terms of relievers–is Cashman kicking himself for getting rid of Aceves in what can only be described as a hissy fit? However, this could be a repeat of 78–remember who was pitching to Bucky Dent? Is Aceves the next “deep to left?” Soriano is coming back, as is a bunch of other characters.

    Starters. Who can do better in terms of cost-benefit than Garcia and Colon at this point? Not sure I see any real movement on that horizon.

    They’ll hold Hughes until the end of the year, see if they want to resign Colon and Garcia at some cost, and open the bank vault again for CC (assuming he doesn’t want to go back to the Bay area or to Philly). After that, if needed, they’ll trade Hughes (and Montero) if need be for a starter.

    Bottom line–some minor stuff maybe at the deadline. Nothing major.

    On another note–oh the drama of this blog! Give it a rest–it’s baseball, a game, not curing cancer.

  7. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    ” Do they need to acquire another quality starter behind CC Sabathia even if the cost is tremendous? Do you want Ubaldo Jimenez or Wandy Rodriguez here?”
    —————————————
    Brian-

    Jimenez was rocked in Phoenix yesterday by the Drew-less Diamondbacks, who are also rumored to be discussing a trade for Wandy Rodriguez with the Astros.

    Ubaldo Jimenez for Herschel Walker[autographs] I’d do but for a Herscel Walker type haul in players-NO!

    Wandy was on the DL last for left elbow inflammation. Very inconsistent in his career and overpaid. For a package headed by Phelps or Mitchell I’d consider it.

  8. bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 9:15 am

    I have a feeling that there will either be a few small additions most likely a lefty hitter and left RP or Cash has something up his sleeve that hasnt hit the presses yet and is going to be a trade talked about for years. I personally like the young kids and the possible group hitting the big leagues in a few years but im ok with a blockbuster

  9. austinmac July 25th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    As many have said before, relying on Chavez health is fools gold. He cannot stay healthy and hasn’t for many years. I still think they need a bat. Cashman, unfortunately does not.

  10. 108 stitches July 25th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Johnson hits righties BA .308 OPS .920 Purely a 4th OF’er who can prolong a rally and hits >.300 with RISP.

    If they do add an OF bat, it’ll mean that Girardi and Cashman will have to sit down with Posada who will be strictly a pinch hitter, with Chavez coming back, along with A-Rod
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    And therein lies the question with Jorge. When Chavez returns, Jorge will lose at bats. If Montero is called up, he loses even more. When Alex returns, Girardi will give him some occasional DH at bats provided Chavez is heathy enough to man 3rd base. Jorge will be limited to pinch hitting appearances.
    The most Cashman might add is Reed Johnson as a RH bat.

  11. RadioKev July 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    The team just needs to play better. We need more from Hughes and AJ, and guys like Tex and Swisher need to step it up. Martin needs to hit more too.

    That’s about it really. The combo of A-Rod, Chavez, and Soriano coming back should help. Montero could help too. I don’t think anyone outside of the organization will save this team. They’ve got to sink or swim on their own.

  12. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    Most likely thing the Yankees do it tweak it.

    I do like surprises though.

    ;)

  13. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    edit: is. sorry.

  14. 86w183 July 25th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Soriano, Chavez and then A-Rod coming back. Don’t expect anything else in terms of position players. Jones is swinging the bat much better, but Posada looks completely spent to me. I’d be inclined to DH Swisher and play Dickerson on RF vs RHP.

    I hope Cash talks with Colorado and Seattle about a top flight starter. I’d deal up to 4 of the top 10 young guys for one of them… depending on the combination.

    My ten being — Nova, Noesi, Warren, Betances, Banuelos, Montero, Romine, Nunez, Sanchez, Laird.

  15. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    soriano sucked and there is apparently some question whether he is still injured. he may be coming back but i think he’s just going to replace wade in terms of how you can use him.

    start chavez every day because he will be injured almost immediately so maybe you can get a week or two out of him before his yankees career is over.

  16. austinmac July 25th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    MTU,

    Check out the national parks photos on MSNBC. It looks like you took a few of them.

  17. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Agree with Pittsburgh:

    One piece to upgrade would be another quality reliever who can get righties AND lefties out. No LOOGY’s therefore no Flores or Romero. Don’t have confidence in Soriano being that piece.

    Who would have come in had the Mariners had 1 more hit off Rivera tying the score, now with a runner on 3rd. Anyone trust the rest of the bullpen to get that last out to keep the game tied, if Girardi had removed MO?

  18. 86w183 July 25th, 2011 at 9:24 am

    Mo is not coming out during an inning. Wade or Ayala would have pitched the tenth if there was one.

    Wade or Ayala SHOULD have pitched the eighth, not Robertson who had thrown 25 pitches Saturday.

  19. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:26 am

    I hope Cash talks with Colorado and Seattle about a top flight starter. I’d deal up to 4 of the top 10 young guys for one of them… depending on the combination.

    My ten being — Nova, Noesi, Warren, Betances, Banuelos, Montero, Romine, Nunez, Sanchez, Laird.

    ———————
    86w183-

    OUCH! In that scenario the 2B’s Montero and Nunez are probably gone!

  20. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Austin-

    Just checked them out. Very nice. Thanks for letting me know.

    Safe trip home.

  21. MaineYankee July 25th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    MTU

    Did you see Chad’s post last night about luis?

  22. MaineYankee July 25th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:21 am
    Agree with Pittsburgh:

    One piece to upgrade would be another quality reliever who can get righties AND lefties out. No LOOGY’s therefore no Flores or Romero. Don’t have confidence in Soriano being that piece.

    Who would have come in had the Mariners had 1 more hit off Rivera tying the score, now with a runner on 3rd. Anyone trust the rest of the bullpen to get that last out to keep the game tied, if Girardi had removed MO?

    —————————————————————————————————-

    Joe would have left Mo in.

  23. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    MY-

    I did. I think some people might wind up owing him a very big apology.

  24. blake July 25th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Yea I agree…..strange move to throw Robertson yesterday in the heat with the cushion they had…..a little out of character for Girardi there who typically errs on the side of caution.

    I wonder how this week is going to play out…..right now it seems that a lot of teams are reluctant to take chances…..whether its to deal their player or too turn loose of prospects …..will be interesting to see which side blinks first or if neither does. Beltran will be dealt but I think it’ll be for less than they want…..the Astros wont move either of their guys unless the prices drop.

  25. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Blake-

    This is going to be a crazy week. Should be fun though.

  26. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    anybody have any insight into why montero’s obp is down 130 points this season?

    …and what the heck happened to andrew brackman? (7.5 ERA?)

  27. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    MTU

    Did you see Chad’s post last night about luis?
    ——————————–
    Maine and MTU-
    I did. What was going on last night? Was luis accused of being another poster? if so who?

  28. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    How about this deal?

    To Yankees: Carlos Guillen

    To White Sox: Colby Rasmus

    To Cards: Ivan Nova + White Sox prospect

    Yankee lineup with Guillen

    Jeter-ss
    Granderson-cf
    Teixeira-1b
    Rodriguez-3b
    Cano-2b
    Guillen-rf
    Swisher-dh
    Martin-c
    Gardner-lf

  29. RadioKev July 25th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    It seems that it’s consensus that Jimenez won’t be traded, and I agree. The asking price was ludicrous to begin with, and Cashman didn’t bite. You could only ask that much for the best pitchers in baseball, and Jimenez isn’t there yet.

  30. blake July 25th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    If Im trading Nova I want Rasmus not Guillen in that deal.

  31. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Why?

    Don’t you want to make sure your bat is legit starting now and not have to wait?

  32. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    YT-

    I think we may have witnessed the modern day version of the Salem witch hunt, or an ole’ fashioned lynching.

    Time will tell.

    :(

  33. Mell July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Isn’t Carlos Guillen 35 years old and almost completely devoid of knee cartilidge?

    Why’s that deal make sense, Bret?

  34. MaineYankee July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:30 am
    MTU

    Did you see Chad’s post last night about luis?
    ——————————–
    Maine and MTU-
    I did. What was going on last night? Was luis accused of being another poster? if so who?

    ———————————————————————————

    C R 9

  35. CountryClub July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    For the record, I don’t necessarily expect Chavez to stay healthy. But the fact remians, when he joins the team on Tuesday, they instantly become better. If it lasts for 2 weeks, great. If it lasts for 3 months, even better.

  36. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    # 86w183 July 25th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Soriano, Chavez and then A-Rod coming back. Don’t expect anything else in terms of position players. Jones is swinging the bat much better, but Posada looks completely spent to me. I’d be inclined to DH Swisher and play Dickerson on RF vs RHP.

    I hope Cash talks with Colorado and Seattle about a top flight starter. I’d deal up to 4 of the top 10 young guys for one of them… depending on the combination.

    My ten being — Nova, Noesi, Warren, Betances, Banuelos, Montero, Romine, Nunez, Sanchez, Laird.

    ————————————-

    What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?

  37. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Blake,

    What about this deal?

    To Yankees: Carlos Guillen + Matt Thornton

    To White Sox: Colby Rasmus

    To Cards: Ivan Nova + White Sox prospect

  38. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Carlos Quentin I meant.

  39. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    To Yankees: Carlos Quentin + Matt Thornton

    To White Sox: Colby Rasmus

    To Cards: Ivan Nova + White Sox prospect

  40. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    CountryClub July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am
    For the record, I don?t necessarily expect Chavez to stay healthy. But the fact remians, when he joins the team on Tuesday, they instantly become better. If it lasts for 2 weeks, great. If it lasts for 3 months, even better.

    ************************

    agreed

  41. MaineYankee July 25th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Bret

    The Yankees don’t know what they will get from Hugh’s and they also have some older injury prone pitchers.

    Tell me why they trade Nova?

  42. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Ys Guy-
    Box score of brackman’s start yesterday.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....38;t=g_box

  43. MaineYankee July 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?

    —————————————————————————————–

    They would think Cashmans phone drop its signal.

  44. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    I don’t think they will trade Nova unless they can pick up a starter as a hedge.

    If they can pick up a starter, perhaps they can spin Nova for Quentin + Thornton.

    Kenny Williams really likes Rasmus and wants to pare payroll with Quentin and Thornton. There are only 1.5 years left on Quentin before he becomes a free agent.

  45. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    so brackman lowered his era to 7.22. whats going on with him? has anybody seen him this season?

  46. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?

    *****************************

    :evil:

  47. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?

    ——————————————-
    Cashman says-”What, I can’t hear you. Seems your call is breaking up. Did you say you want A-Rod back?”

  48. Mell July 25th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Ys Guy-
    Box score of brackman’s start yesterday.

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball…..38;t=g_box

    ==================================

    8 baserunners in 4 innings. 5 walks, 0 K’s. Seemed like that outing may have fell under the “better lucky than good” category, but I didn’t see it, so I can’t say for sure. 8 walks in his last 7 innings.

  49. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    “What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?”

    He’d hear a “click” followed by a “dialtone”.

    ;)

  50. 86w183 July 25th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Can’t see Cano going anywhere. I’d pay a heavy price for The King… significantly less if I take on Figgins’ ridiculous contract.

    You really think they can get Carlos Quentin and Matt Thornton for Nova? I don’t.

  51. Wang IS Taiwan July 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Luis,

    I wasn’t around when the witch hunt was on against you. I’ve always found you to be very polite and a very welcome blogger in my mind.

    Just saying that for the record.

  52. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Excuse me for saying so but don’t the WS have to fall out of things 1st before we can trade with them ?

    Don’t put the cart before the horse.

    ;)

  53. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:49 am

    To Yankees: Carlos Quentin + Matt Thornton

    To White Sox: Colby Rasmus

    To Cards: Ivan Nova + White Sox prospect
    —————————-
    Bret-
    White Sox have one of the worst defensive catchers in baseball in Pierzynski- if that prospect in the deal is Montero, I’m out! Do like Thornton who has been returning to his 2009 form as one of the best set-up men in the league.

  54. ac1 July 25th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Tonight-Vargas loses to Garcia
    Tuesday-Fister loses to CC
    Wednesday-King Felix loses to Hughes and bullpen
    Thursday-with no winning for the Mariners in sight, King Felix demands a trade to the Yankees

    __

    Felix went on Saturday. Is he going on short rest on Wednesday?

  55. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Mell-

    I think GB saw/heard Brackman’s outing.

  56. ac1 July 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    For the record, I don’t necessarily expect Chavez to stay healthy. But the fact remians, when he joins the team on Tuesday, they instantly become better. If it lasts for 2 weeks, great. If it lasts for 3 months, even better.

    ___

    if he can at least give us 3 weeks before Alex gets back, that would be something…

  57. Keith--FL July 25th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    YS Guy I agree on Chavez. He broke his foot running the bases, no contact, etc….he will go back on DL…. We can’t count on him, Cashman should get Matsui back here today to be a DH, he would spark the line- up and is loved by all and clutch, clutch, clutch….Red Sox would hate to have to face him 4-5 times a game in a possible ALCS matchup….just make the trade and figure out the situation with Posada later….if you want to win in postseason go get the 2009 World Series MVP who just went 5 for 5 vs us!

  58. Mell July 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    “What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?”

    I’d say “Fine, but it also ends with Cano. If you can agree to that, then you have a deal.”

    It would hurt, but I’d do it.

    I don’t believe either GM would though.

  59. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    giambino has more hr’s in 1/3 the ab’s of matsui and would probably cost alot less.

  60. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Trader,

    The prospect is from the White Sox.

    They’re trading 1.5 years of Quentin for a cost-controlled young OF while dumping Thornton’s contract on top of it.

    Rasmus will still produce and keep the ChiSox competitive.

    The White Sox aren’t necessarily sellers in this deal. They’re buying Rasmus.

    The Cardinals need pitching but Edwin Jackson is in his walk year. They won’t trade a young cost controlled outfielder for .5 years of Edwin Jackson.

    The sticking point between the Cards and the ChiSox is the prospect. If Nova enters the picture, perhaps that prospect asking price comes down and a deal is consummated.

    Cash and Kenny love to trade together.

  61. Mell July 25th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Felix went on Saturday. Is he going on short rest on Wednesday?

    ===========================

    He pitched Friday against Lackey. Beavan pitched Saturday.

  62. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    ac1-

    Hernandez pitched last Friday:
    Box score of his abysmal performance:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....8;c_id=sea

  63. Keith--FL July 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Cashman traded for Jeff Nelson in 2003 after letting him go to Seattle in 2001 so there is precedent for getting Matsui back in a trade, plus he never should have been let go in the first place….

  64. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    YT-

    Here’s a little old song for ya’ :

    “you gotta give a little take a little.
    Let your poor heart break a little
    That’s the story of.
    that’s the glory of ….”

    Trading.

    You wanna be in the game that’s what has to happen.

    :)

  65. G-C July 25th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    “It would hurt, but I’d do it. ”

    ___________________________

    I wouldn’t.

    The state of offense around the league right now means that a guy like Cano frankly is a hell of a lot more important than a guy like Felix.

    What’s going on right now is almost pathetic. Look at the lineups that Tampa and Oakland are trotting out there. BJ Upton is hitting .220 with an OBP barely above .300 and he’s being considered some kind of potential catch at the trading deadline.

    Seriously, guys like Jeff Karstens and Dustin Moseley are making putting up sub 3.00 ERAs look easy.

    Its kind of bizarre. But regardless of why, its very telling.

  66. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    86,

    Yes I do.

    The Yankees contribution to the package is the coveted starter the Cards need to vault past the Brewers and Pirates in a very tight NL Central race. The Yankees would be giving up 5 years of Nova for 1.5 of Quentin PLUS taking on Thornton’s contract on top of it. But it fills 2 huge needs for the Yankees – an upgrade over Posada and a second lefty so they can bury Boone on the depth chart. If the Yankees bring in Quentin, they can still sign Kemp because Quentin and Kemp will enter free agency at the same time.

  67. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    # Erin July 25th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?

    *****************************

    :evil:

    —————————————-

    Sorry Erin.

    For what it’s worth I would have a hard time giving up Cano. I’m a Yankee fan I want both on the team together

  68. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    the sox tend to make moves in-season that arent necesarily rentals. they picked up peavy and rios with an eye toward the long term rather than rentals. i expect that they want to make changes to their sub .500 team not just for the penant race but just to improve the team.

  69. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    # MaineYankee July 25th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?

    —————————————————————————————–

    They would think Cashmans phone drop its signal.

    —————————————————

    lol Jack Z would think oh no not this again

  70. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    AAO-

    You’ll never live that one down.

    :)

  71. yanks4ever July 25th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    luis/C R 9 is slippery as an eel. He uses international software so he never gets caught. That’s why he can have an IP address to match his latest fantasy lohud character. That’s why lohud has never caught him. Wake up people!

    Read this.

    luis July 15th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Hi eveveryone,
    My two cents, The winning formula for sustainable success comes from developing players to become your core, complimented by smart FA signings or trades. Right now, our current core is retired or close to do so or aging right in front of our eyes. Plus we have certain players that are starting to decline due to age who have huge contracts therefore taking it’s toll on the financial flexibility of the team. This is not the moment to trade the farm, this the moment to rip the benefits the farm is about to give you, if that means not wining the WS this year, so be it. We need a new core of players above everything else( specially if they are young cost control players).

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Read this.

    luis July 25th, 2011 at 4:14 am
    Bojo,

    Now i’m ready for that little chat in skipe. Just tell what day it’s better for you

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Just tell what day it’s better for you? That’s English?

    The president of Venezuela’s English isn’t good enough to write the first one!

    C R 9 tap dancing all over your heads. Enjoy it.

  72. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Bret-

    DUH-missed that.However the Cardinals could probably get a #3 starter for Rasmus.

  73. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Trader,

    You don’t think Nova could be a #3 starter in a division where Jeff Karstens is an ace?

  74. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    # Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?

    ——————————————-
    Cashman says-”What, I can’t hear you. Seems your call is breaking up. Did you say you want A-Rod back?”

    ——————————–

    Rope a dope Jack Z. I’d like to see that happen :)

  75. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    “Keith–FL July 25th, 2011 at 9:57 am
    Cashman traded for Jeff Nelson in 2003 after letting him go to Seattle in 2001 so there is precedent for getting Matsui back in a trade, plus he never should have been let go in the first place….”

    ————————————————————-

    we all like matsui but he has done nothing since he left and it was absolutely the right move not to sign him.

  76. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    AAO-

    Think you just p….d off Erin. That’s a NO on trading Cano!

    —————————————-

    Sorry Erin.

    For what it’s worth I would have a hard time giving up Cano. I’m a Yankee fan I want both on the team together

  77. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    # MTU July 25th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    “What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?”

    He’d hear a “click” followed by a “dialtone”.

    ;)

    ———————

    lol

    Jack Z: Hello hel…. hmmmm that’s weird.

  78. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Trade suggestion:

    Chi Cubs get: Phil Hughes, Adam Warren, David Adams, Jorge Vazquez

    NYY get: Matt Garza, Sean Marshall, Marlon Byrd

    OR

    Chi Cubs get: David Adams, and a couple of low level guys

    NYY get: Matt Garza, Marshall, Alfonso Soriano

  79. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    # Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    so brackman lowered his era to 7.22. whats going on with him? has anybody seen him this season?

    ————————————-

    Haven’t seen him but his struggles have been brought up on RAB. He’s had velocity issues as well as control problems.

  80. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    You don’t think Nova could be a #3 starter in a division where Jeff Karstens is an ace?

    Bret-

    Love your tenacity! Good one! LOL

    Anyone watch Larry David on HBO last night?

  81. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 9:35 am
    Blake,

    What about this deal?

    To Yankees: Carlos Guillen + Matt Thornton

    To White Sox: Colby Rasmus

    To Cards: Ivan Nova + White Sox prospect
    —————

    I assume you mean Quentin?

    In any case, why would the Cards (1 game out) not want players who can help them right now? Nova could, but their real need is at closer.

  82. 108 stitches July 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Not seeing anything major happening this week with the possible exception of a RH bat. When free agency approaches, would like to see Ryan Madson added as a bullpen piece and a deal for Kemp at the winter meetings.

  83. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    alfonso soriano’s obp is sub .300 and he is owed over $50M.

  84. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Matt Garza? Uh… no thanks.

  85. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    # Mell July 25th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    “What if Seattle told the Yankees they have to start with Cano in order to get into the King Felix talks?”

    I’d say “Fine, but it also ends with Cano. If you can agree to that, then you have a deal.”

    It would hurt, but I’d do it.

    I don’t believe either GM would though.

    ——————————–

    Knowing Seattle they would want one more piece even if Cano was in the deal

  86. bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Larry David is one of the most brilliant individuals i have ever witnessed

  87. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Cardinals don’t need a closer, Salas is one of the best in the majors this year…

  88. yanks4ever July 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Hey I’ll do a Skype for you. I’m in Russia. That’s what my software says! That’s what my IP says. It must be true. I have friend who does goood Russian accent. I have him come over and Skype for me. He use my computer with my Russian IP address and his goood Russian accent.

    Then you believe I’m Russian yes?

    Dosvedanya!

  89. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    Anyone watch Larry David on HBO last night?

    ***********************

    Must see TV. :)

  90. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 10:09 am
    alfonso soriano’s obp is sub .300 and he is owed over $50M.

    —————

    I’m well aware of how bad he is – but as I see it there are two ways to get Garza, give up a lot for him or give up very little and take back Soriano’s contract.

  91. Ys Guy July 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    sorry its $60M for soriano, possibly the worst OF in baseball with the worst contract in baseball.

  92. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Chip,

    I think a starter would help a team more than a reliever, especially a team that lost Wainright.

    I think Nova has value right now and the Yanks should sell high.

    I would love to get 1.5 years of Quentin + Thornton.

    That would improve the team immensely and keep the farm system in tact. It’s a move that would help the Yankees win now without damaging the long term plan in any way.

  93. Keith--FL July 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    I have to disagree YS…. think Matsui had a pretty good year last year with a different team and a different Angels ballpark: .274 21 HR and 84 RBI after a slow start…he would have hit more HR in Yankee Stadium for sure….he is starting to get hot this year with new A’s manager Melvin playing him more and we would be getting him fresh and rested for stretch run since Geren unwisely sat him vs lefties who Matsui always hits, see HR Sat vs Logan…Cashman: Go Get Godzilla!!!!

  94. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am

    Trade suggestion:

    Chi Cubs get: Phil Hughes, Adam Warren, David Adams, Jorge Vazquez

    NYY get: Matt Garza, Sean Marshall, Marlon Byrd
    ——————————
    Chip- Very, very bad trade for the Cubs. The 2nd option only unloads $$$$ for next to nothing. You’ll have to work harder. I just hung up if I’m Hendry.

  95. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 10:11 am
    Cardinals don’t need a closer, Salas is one of the best in the majors this year…

    —————

    Their pen has been awful. Perhaps I should have said, setup guy rather than closer.

  96. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    would like to see Ryan Madson added as a bullpen piece

    ————————————

    Not saying he wouldn’t be a nice piece to have but with Wade, Sori, Drob, Mo, Joba(when he gets back), whoever the lefties are, etc. It would be a crowed bullpen. Plus is Madson still viewed as the closer in waiting?

  97. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    I’d be happy to send them Boone Logan in that deal.

    He could probably set-up in that division.

    :lol:

  98. ac1 July 25th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Sorry got my Felix days confused…..
    They all sucked…

  99. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am
    Chip,

    I think a starter would help a team more than a reliever, especially a team that lost Wainright.

    I think Nova has value right now and the Yanks should sell high.

    I would love to get 1.5 years of Quentin + Thornton.

    That would improve the team immensely and keep the farm system in tact. It’s a move that would help the Yankees win now without damaging the long term plan in any way.

    ————

    Bret I would like to get them too – but I think the Sox are going to want more than Ivan Nova going to the Cards from the Yankee system.

    You’re asking Williams to give up two players off his big league roster, and at least another two or three prospects to get Colby Rasmus – that’s probably not going to happen.

  100. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Anyone watch Larry David on HBO last night?

    ***********************

    Must see TV.
    ================
    It was al about using LOL

  101. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    You had better believe Ivan Nova has significant value to the NL Central (land where Karstens is king).

    8 wins in the AL East at the halfway mark.

    5 years of team control.

  102. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Bret,

    Eh….I like that deal a lot better than the first…..but Im not a big Quentin fan and am.not sure the White Sox.would do that either. Still want to be the team getting Rasmus if Im trading Nova. Id just go straight to the Cards and offer Nova + for Rasmus and cut the ChiSox out of the deal.

  103. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:17 am
    Anyone watch Larry David on HBO last night?

    ***********************

    Must see TV.
    ================
    It was al about using LOL

    ************************

    Social Assassin!!!!

  104. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:13 am
    Trade suggestion:

    Chi Cubs get: Phil Hughes, Adam Warren, David Adams, Jorge Vazquez

    NYY get: Matt Garza, Sean Marshall, Marlon Byrd
    ——————————
    Chip- Very, very bad trade for the Cubs. The 2nd option only unloads $$$$ for next to nothing. You’ll have to work harder. I just hung up if I’m Hendry.

    —————

    I think it depends on how anxious Hendry is to get out from under the Soriano contract. If the Yankees take that monster back he has to know that the prospects he gets for Garza would be a lot less.

    I would be willing to remove either Byrd or Marshall from the first option.

  105. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Bret-

    Boone Logan was a White Sox player before going to the Braves. He was awful.

  106. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Chip,

    Williams is trading 1.5 years of Quentin for 4 years of Colby Rasmus AND he’s dumping Thornton’s contract on top of it.

    Matt Thornton lhp

    signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/6/11

    12:$5.5M, 13:$5.5M, 14:$6M club option ($1M buyout)

  107. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Trader,

    I’d send Logan to the Cards.

  108. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    7 of the 8 HR’s Garza has given up this season were in the last 10 games.
    He’s been extremely lucky limiting flyballs in general (probably a conscious decision as Wrigley is tiny).
    His K/9 uptick can almost be directly attributed to the NL/pitcher.

    Do Not Want.

    The Cubs gave up 4 prospects to get him, more value than what the Brewers gave up to get Greinke.
    Why would the Cubs be trading Garza?

  109. Triple Short of a Cycle July 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Yankee Trader,

    Top 10 episode of all time. They did a similar LOL thing on Seinfeld about rhe girl who never laughed. She just said That’s funny

  110. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Blake,

    Quentin’s OPS is right on par with Beltran and Quentin is only 28.

    900 OPS.

    He has significant value for a team in win-now mode.

    If you have him for 1.5 years, that counts for 2 post season runs.

    He’s a dangerous hitter.

    It could take years before Rasmus pans out.

    He’s not much of an upgrade over Posada at this point.

    Quentin?

    Different story.

  111. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Chip,
    Don’t see the Cubs doing that deal…..and I don’t want either player named Soriano on the payroll at this point.

  112. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    I think it depends on how anxious Hendry is to get out from under the Soriano contract. If the Yankees take that monster back he has to know that the prospects he gets for Garza would be a lot less.

    I would be willing to remove either Byrd or Marshall from the first option.
    ——————————–
    Cubs not trading Marshall. So as soon as I hear no $$$ is coming to the Yankees, now Cashman hangs up. Sorry.

    Gotta go fr a while.

  113. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Should be a fun week in here.

    The Enviro’s (prospect huggers) vs. The loggers (The traders).

    Better call out the Marshalls now.

    :)

  114. bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Curb and Seinfeld are two of IMO the best comedies ever on television… along with a slightly less watched Arrested Development

  115. Chambliss July 25th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    If I could get King Felix for Cano I would do it. Cano’s value will never be higher. King Felix, despite his stuggles the other night in Boston, is a game changer. Felix and CC could win many postseason series without much help other than Mo and Robertson.

    Yankees would need to get creative to make up for the loss of Cano’s production, but even without Cano they still have A-Rod, Tex and Granderson. If the Yankees could add Beltran without giving up too much, they could still have a potent lineup.

    Another guy they should consider going after is Matsui for DH. As he showed yesterday, he can still hit. He loves NY and has shown that he can perform in NY when it counts. His numbers are terrible this year and health is an issue, but keep in mind that he is playing in a horrible hitter’s park in Oakland. He likes hitting at the new Stadium.

  116. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Bret – Not sure you’re looking at this right… Rasmus is already more developed and a more dangerous hitter than Quentin. Quentin is as inconsistent as could be. The only reason he hasn’t been a true fulltime player for the last 2 years is LaRussa.

    Rasmus managed to amass 7 WAR over 09-10 while being shuffled around the lineup, the field, and the clubhouse. All the while Quentin was putting up negative WAR seasons… who’s more dangerous?

  117. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Bret,

    I don’t know if the Cards or White Sox would do that deal. Quentin would be fine but he’s a terrible OFer

  118. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:24 am
    Curb and Seinfeld are two of IMO the best comedies ever on television? along with a slightly less watched Arrested Development

    **************************

    absolutely…and yay- another AD fan! :)

  119. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    ID,

    I’m looking at a 2 year win-now window with the Yankees.

    I think Rasmus would need to make some adjustments and that could take some time before he starts to realize his potential. It sounds like you think he’d regain his 2010 form instantaneously. That could happen but right now it’s a guarantee that Quentin will produce like Beltran.

  120. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:19 am
    Chip,

    Williams is trading 1.5 years of Quentin for 4 years of Colby Rasmus AND he’s dumping Thornton’s contract on top of it.

    Matt Thornton lhp

    signed extension with Chicago White Sox 3/6/11

    12:$5.5M, 13:$5.5M, 14:$6M club option ($1M buyout)

    ————-

    yeah but he can move both those guys in separate deals and get more back than just Ivan Nova for them.

  121. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Blake,

    He could DH I guess and play some RF at YS.

  122. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:30 am
    Bret,

    I don’t know if the Cards or White Sox would do that deal. Quentin would be fine but he’s a terrible OFer

    ———-

    Play Quentin at DH and bench Jorge

  123. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Chip,

    Kenny’s not getting Nova, he’s getting Rasmus without giving up a high-end prospect.

  124. bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Erin

    it was tragic that show went off the air.. i watch it on netflix all the time

  125. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Bret -

    I think the only way you see Williams give up either Quentin or Thornton that easily is if you’re also willing to take back the big donkey.

  126. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am
    Chip,

    Kenny’s not getting Nova, he’s getting Rasmus without giving up a high-end prospect.

    ———-

    How is he not giving up a high end prospect? The Cards are going to want more than just Ivan Nova and a couple of throw ins for Rasmus. And if they don’t then I say forget about a three team deal and send Nova and a couple of throw ins to St. Louis and get Rasmus for the Yankees.

  127. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Chip,

    Williams is only giving up 1.5 years of Quentin and dumping 12 million guaranteed dollars to a reliever in the process.

  128. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
    Erin

    it was tragic that show went off the air.. i watch it on netflix all the time

    ********************

    Supposedly they are going ahead with the movie, which is awesome.

    I own all 3 seasons on DVD. That show is addicting. :)

  129. bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    yea i hope they do make the movie but i feel like it would be nearly impossible to bring that entire cast back together

  130. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:33 am
    Chip,

    Kenny’s not getting Nova, he’s getting Rasmus without giving up a high-end prospect.

    ——————

    I would love to see it, I just think you’re underselling the cost.

  131. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Chip,

    The Cards have been shopping Rasmus. If they could’ve landed a high end prospect, he’d be a White Sox by now. That’s the sticking point.

    They don’t want Edwin Jackson because Jackson is a rental.

    Nova is not.

    8 wins in the AL East at the halfway mark and he’d be entering a division where Karstens is king.

    Nova’s value is really high.

    But like I said, if I’m the Yankees I’m looking at a 2 year window and I think Quentin and Thornton improve our chances of winning 2 rings far more than Rasmus in the next 2 years. Rasmus is not ready to be an impact player IMHO.

  132. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    With all the uncertainty in our rotation I don’t see Nova going anywhere.

    Same with Nunez. He’s Jeter insurance for now.

    That’s my take.

  133. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    MTU,

    I only see Nova going somewhere if Cash can add to the rotation first.

    And I see Cash adding to the rotation.

  134. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    No way Id deal Cano for Felix. 2B of his caliber are even harder to find than elite starters and they need him in the middle of the lineup for the future……

  135. Purenyyankee July 25th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Is it against all the rules to give one of these kids a chance? No. Its about time this happens. I don’t want Jimenez. He will turn out to be another NL bust. Bring up Nova. Bring back Chavez and Soriano. And give one of the Killer B’s a chance.

  136. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Revised Cub trade:

    NYY get: Matt Garza & Marlon Byrd

    Chi gets: Hughes, Warren, Nunez & Stoneburner

  137. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Jimenez could become the next Pedro Martinez.

  138. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Bret-

    It could get interesting.

    :)

  139. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    I would deal Nova in the right deal even now. He’s insurance but they also have Noesi and some other guys that could fill in the back end. Im not shopping him or anything but would trade him if something made sense.

  140. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    I’ve changed my stance on Ubaldo Jimenez.

    I was reluctant to include Manny Banuelos.

    I’m all in now.

    Montero + Banuelos + Betances + Noesi.

  141. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    bisonthrow-I think Jason Bateman, Will Arnett and Jeffery Tambor have all confirmed that it is (finally) getting made. And as far as I know the whole cast has signed on. Michael Cera held out for a while, but now he’s on board.

  142. bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    o really?? thats awesome i had no idea that it was that far into negotiations any dates announced?

  143. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    “Montero + Banuelos + Betances + Noesi.”

    I wouldn’t do that for any player in baseball I don’t think…..ubaldo doesn’t provide the kind of certainty to even consider it though.

  144. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:46 am
    o really?? thats awesome i had no idea that it was that far into negotiations any dates announced?

    ******************************

    No idea on any possible release dates. Let’s just hope it’s soon. ;)

  145. Vineyard Yankee July 25th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    From Rotowire:

    According to GM Brian Cashman, Rodriguez (knee) could return to the Yankees in the second week of August, the New York Post reports.

    “He’s in a pool. He’s on a bike. [He's] still got a little bit of a limp, which is normal,” Cashman said. “But I’d be looking at him [returning] maybe the second week of August…at the earliest for me. That’s just us being conservative. I think we can push it and get him back sooner, but why? Our offense is strong.”

    ==========

    ‘Our offense is strong’ Really ?

  146. bisonthrow July 25th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Bret

    why would you trade 3 potentially very good players and a solid back of rotation/ long man for a pitcher who hasnt even had a full year of great pitching?

    I wouldnt trade those for for felix, kershaw, or doc by themselves… maybe kershaw and kemp

  147. 86w183 July 25th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Bret… that’s an awful lot… I’d consider one of Banuelos/Betances/Noesi and Montero, but the other pieces have to be lower on the food chain. Maybe Warren and Laird?

  148. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Something weird is

    *We know Colorado wants Montero + Betances + Banuelos + Nova.

    They have the hots for 4 Yankees prospects.

    Cashman has a mountain of information here.

    Yet we assume Cashman has not exchanged names with the Rockies?

    I mean, can we safely assume zero negotiation at all between Cashman and O’Dowd??

    We’ve heard nothing.

    It’s odd.

  149. 108 stitches July 25th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:20 am
    Trader,

    I’d send Logan to the Cards.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    That leaves the Yankees with an all righthanded bullpen unless Steve Garrison is the answer and he hasn’t been used yet since being called up.

  150. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    The offense is strong in relation to the rest of the league……..what the Yankees have to consider is how the offense will stack up to the other potential playoff teams …….who many of which may have better rotations.

  151. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Bret – I just don’t buy it, I think it’s all backwards. Rasmus was better last year, better the year before… and he’s the one that will need to make adjustments? LaRussa has been jerking the kid around for 3 years, its no surprise he might struggle here and there. Rasmus is a much more complete player than Quentin is in my eyes. The only reason Quentin is valued higher (WAR) this season is his defense runs aren’t -20 like they usually are.

  152. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    108,

    No it doesn’t.

    Thornton would come over in that trade.

    To Yankees: Carlos Quentin + Matt Thornton

    To Cardinals: Ivan Nova + Boone Logan + White Sox prospect

    To White Sox: Colby Rasmus

  153. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    I would offer a strong package for Ubaldo if the Rockies wanted to talk…..but he’s not the type pitcher you blow up your farm system for. You need certainty if you do that…..think someone that’s just as good and proven as Sabathia and that’s younger.

  154. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Stating that Quentin will perform like Beltran is nuts too… just plain nuts.

  155. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Bret -

    Like I said, I just can’t see the Cards giving up Rasmus for so little and if they are willing to part with him for Nova, Boone Logan and a mid level prospect I leave the Cubs out of it – pick him up for the Yankees.

  156. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    ID,

    I think Rasmus would have to match his 2010 performance right away to be worth 2 years of potential rings with Quentin and Thornton. Quentin’s career OPS is around .850. He must be at least more consistent than a host of players. I don’t worry about his defense because I think the Yankees can DH him.

  157. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    I think the guys the Yankees are more likely to get from the Rox than Ubaldo are Wiggington and Giambi.

  158. blake July 25th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    As I said, if Im dealing Nova then I would just cut the White Sox out and see if the Cards would talk Rasmus and if a deal could happen. They might would want a lot more….I don’t know.

  159. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    ID,

    How is it nuts?

    Beltran and Quentin have virtually the same career OPS.

    Quentin is 28.

    Beltran 34.

  160. Mike Ri July 25th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Per Mlbtraderumors. .

    The Yankees are among the teams pursuing the Dodgers’ Hiroki Kuroda, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.

    ughhhhhhhh

  161. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    Yanks are price driving for the Red Sox because the Sox are desperate for pitching.

    Kuroda is not much of an upgrade in our rotation.

  162. Vineyard Yankee July 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Mike Ri July 25th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    I believe that Kuroda has a no trade and has said he doesn’t want to play on the East Coast.

  163. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Bret – Quentin’s career OPS might be .850 but it’s not because of consistency… wild swings of 300 points in OPS are not consistent numbers. Injury problems… Add to that the fact he is an absolute butcher in the field.

  164. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    You put Gardner, Granderson, and Rasmus in the outfield and there wouldn’t be a lot of balls finding gaps out there…..just sayin. Move Swish to DH and shop him this winter…..or bring him back as DH/4th outfielder.

  165. Against All Odds July 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Montero + Banuelos + Betances + Noesi.

    ———————————

    You move a package like that for Felix, Verlander, Kershaw, or Lincecum

  166. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Bret – because OPS is not an absolute indicator of performance…. like… at all. Quentin has more of a chance of being Adam Dunn than Carlos Beltran… on his best day.

  167. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    I really don’t want Kuroda unless the price is near free with regards to prospects.

  168. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Blake,

    All lefties though.

    It’s why Andruw Jones has a job.

  169. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    jimbaumbach If there’s a retrial in Roger Clemens case, it’s not automatic it will happen in fall. Judge would have to find time in his busy schedule.

  170. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:01 am
    You put Gardner, Granderson, and Rasmus in the outfield and there wouldn’t be a lot of balls finding gaps out there…..just sayin. Move Swish to DH and shop him this winter…..or bring him back as DH/4th outfielder.

    =————-

    Get no argument from me on that.

  171. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    ID,

    Quentin’s on pace for 30 HR’s in a sucky lineup.

    Beltran is old and has had his fair share of injuries.

    They’re probably of equal value.

    Adding Thornton (despite his contract) tips that deal for me.

    Blake,

    I’d like to see Rasmus.

    I hope the Cards like Nova.

  172. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Bret,

    Who cares…..they have no trouble hitting LHP.

  173. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Blake,

    Who would you rather have, Rasmus or Beltran?

  174. Vineyard Yankee July 25th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Mike Ri July 25th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    I may be mistaken about the no trade but the East Coast thing has been said a couple of times by Kuroda.

  175. Tom in N.J. July 25th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    I tend to shy away from plyers whose OPS is slugging heavy.

  176. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    If you can get Rasmus for Nova and not much more you do it and don’t think twice about it……..the problem is that it’d probably take a lot more unless the Cards are just dead setnon getting rid of him and there is no indication that is the case.

  177. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Bret – Seems like a lot of trouble to move guys around for little gain. Especially since the league has seemingly figure out Thornton (1.6 whip? no thanks). Would be just as effective (maybe more) to throw Nova into the bullpen.

  178. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Bret,

    For the rest of this year….Beltran……long term though Rasmus by a mile. He’s 24 with big upside and controlled until 2015 I think.

  179. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    I heard Wang is finally supposed to start for the Nats this weekend..good for him. I hope he’s able to come back and pitch in this league again.

    Hey Erin – Did you ever get my email address? I’ve actually forgotten which one Chad has and so I’ve been trying to check them all in case you send something my way lol.

  180. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I think picking up a RF and shuffling Swisher to DH is the right move for this season going forward, but it has to be an OF that would be a defensive upgrade to Swisher and Qunetin is not it.

  181. DaSaint007 July 25th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Cashman’s priorities should be a lefty for the pen, or at least someone who consistently can get left handed hitters out, a DH, and a corner infielder with pop.

    For the pen, I’d consider Craig Breslow, Tyler Clippard, and Arthur Rhodes. The first two are possible, the last one unlikely.

    For the DH, I’d consider Matsui, primarily due to his clutch hitting. And frankly, Oakland won’t ask for much more than a mid-level minor leaguer we’ll never remember, and/or cash. And if he’s with Breslow, all the better.

    With ARod out for at least another 4 weeks, for the corner infielder, I’ll always target Ty Wiggington, who plays 3rd well and has a decent bat compared with Laird or Pena in that position. Nunez is a natural SS who has done well, errors notwithstandidng, and should stay on the team, but he can be the utility infielder/defensive replacement. Wiggington can also DH when ARod returns.

    No one is trading prime starting pitching. So all you’ll get is a #3 or #4 type, and frankly I think we’re ok with the starting pitching. CC is CC. AJ is AJ. Colon and Garcia are experienced vets who battle each outing and give you a chance to win. Frankly if Hughes falters again at his next start, I’d rather recall Nova to fill his spot, and move Hughes to the pen.

  182. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    My trade targets:

    Starters:
    Garza
    Brett Myers
    Anibal Sanchez
    Liriano
    Rich Harden

    Relief pitchers:
    Sean Marshall

    Bats:
    Jason Kubel
    Carlos Quentin
    Jason Giambi
    Ty Wiggington
    Colby Rasmus
    Hunter Pence
    Delmon Young
    Chase Headley
    Cameron Maybin
    Melky Cabrera

  183. 86w183 July 25th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    It’s a shame I slept through the years that Colby Rasmus was a great player.

    He’s a .258 hitter with more errors (14) than assists (8) and has never hit 25+ HR or registered 70+ RBI. He’s no longer playing regularly for a team with a worse record than the Yanks.

    I wouldn’t give up Nova for him

  184. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    What about trading Montero + Nova +++ for Matt Kemp?

  185. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Man, if Jason Giambi and Melky Cabrera are on our wish lists… not a whole lot out there, huh?

  186. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:15 am
    What about trading Montero + Nova +++ for Matt Kemp?

    —————-

    Dodgers aren’t moving anyone significant, MLB won’t let them. They need to keep their young assets (Kemp, Eithier, Kershaw) as an appeal to potential owners.

    You can get secondary guys – Kuroda, Furcal, Lilly, Casey Blake (in fact I wouldn’t mind getting Blake and Lilly) but that’s it.

  187. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    86w that’s a delightfully empty evaluation of Rasmus, complete with arbitrary cutoffs for levels of success. must have taken some effort to put together.

  188. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Dang, maybe Rasmus is the best option considering defense in RF and his long term control. I do think Nova’s value is higher than it’s ever going to be.

  189. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:15 am
    Man, if Jason Giambi and Melky Cabrera are on our wish lists… not a whole lot out there, huh?

    ————-

    They fill roles.

    Giambi would be a terrific addition to the bench/DH mix (though Eric Chavez is being activated today possibly) and we know how his bat plays here.

    Melky is having a terrific year, play him in RF, move Swisher to DH and bench Posada and you have a very strong defensive outfield and remove one of the weaker bats in the lineup.

  190. Chip July 25th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:18 am
    Dang, maybe Rasmus is the best option considering defense in RF and his long term control. I do think Nova’s value is higher than it’s ever going to be.

    —————

    Problem is that I think Ivan was put on the DL in Scranton – if so, he’s out of the trade deadline mix.

  191. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Chip,

    He was hit with a line drive. It’s only soreness. I think Nova gets a start before the trade deadline.

  192. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Chip – I see what you’re saying.. it just seems like a really weak market this season.

  193. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    You just wonder if Melky has finally arrived or is he just playing over his head.

    I mean are you trading for a guy who’s going to be a 20/20 guy with 90 RBI’s, gold glove defense in RF, a knack for big hits, 4th in the American League in Total Hits, 8th in Total Bases?

    Or are you trading for the immature slacker who swung for the fences trying to emulate this year’s HR champion?

  194. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Blake-

    Rasmus this year against righties:
    BA .238
    OB% .313
    Slugging % .397

    That doesn’t answer your request for a player who hits righthanders well.

  195. Ghostwriter July 25th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    yanks4ever July 25th, 2011 at 10:01 am
    luis/C R 9 is slippery as an eel. He uses international software so he never gets caught. That’s why he can have an IP address to match his latest fantasy lohud character. That’s why lohud has never caught him. Wake up people!
    Read this.
    luis July 15th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Hi eveveryone,
    My two cents, The winning formula for sustainable success comes from developing players to become your core, complimented by smart FA signings or trades. Right now, our current core is retired or close to do so or aging right in front of our eyes. Plus we have certain players that are starting to decline due to age who have huge contracts therefore taking it’s toll on the financial flexibility of the team. This is not the moment to trade the farm, this the moment to rip the benefits the farm is about to give you, if that means not wining the WS this year, so be it. We need a new core of players above everything else( specially if they are young cost control players).
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Read this.
    luis July 25th, 2011 at 4:14 am
    Bojo,
    Now i’m ready for that little chat in skipe. Just tell what day it’s better for you
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Just tell what day it’s better for you? That’s English?
    The president of Venezuela’s English isn’t good enough to write the first one!
    C R 9 tap dancing all over your heads. Enjoy it.
    =============================================

    Oy! If this is what constitutes proof in your mind, then with all due respect, I think that you may be off base on this one.

    First of all, I find the first paragraph to be consistent with the style of the second paragraph. Each has a number of grammatical mistakes—the kind of mistakes that a native Spanish speaker might make. In the first paragraph, Luis:
    1. Uses “complimented” instead of “complemented”
    2. Uses “rip” instead of “reap” (in Spanish “i” sounds like the long “e”)
    3. “specially” instead of “especially” (native Spanish speakers have a tendency to put an “e” in front of the letter “s”—it is a tendency that native Spanish speakers work very hard to break when learning English, and Luis appears to have over-compensated for it in this case)
    4. “cost control” instead of “cost-controlled”

    There are other errors as well, but you get my point. Second, I’ve seen plenty native English speakers that make similar mistakes (not knowing the difference between “have” and “of” or “loose” and “lose”) However, the “rip” and “reap” error is pretty telling as far as I’m concerned; I can’t see a native English speaker making that mistake. Third, even if the paragraph had been impeccably written, it wouldn’t prove he is this other poster—there is any number of alternative plausible explanations.

    Finally, absent any actual proof to the contrary, I think that folks ought to refrain from making accusations against others. (Obviously, I’m just giving my opinion here, and you are free to do as you please.) If you can’t conclusively prove that Luis is C R 9, then he shouldn’t be placed in the position of having to prove a negative.

    It seems to me that if somebody is cordial to you, then you should be cordial in return. If you are not interested in a dialog with that person, then ignore them, or politely inform them. Above all, people ought to protect and closely guard their personal information, because there are unsavory elements on the Internet.

    I have no reason to believe that Luis is C R 9; he just seems like a nice guy to me, and I have yet to see a credible offer of proof from any of his accusers. As long as the interaction with him remains positive, then I intend to continue it. Others should do as they wish.

  196. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Hi Shame! :)

    Chad actually hasn’t gotten back to me yet, so don’t worry-you didn’t miss anything!

  197. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    That’s the thing about Rasmus. A large portion of his value is locked up in potential that may or may not be realized.

    Quentin is more of a sure thing for the next 2 years…as is Thornton who has been very strong over his last 7 appearances.

  198. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Since Rasmus entered the majors in 2009, he is ranked 23rd in WAR among qualified OF (55 qualify) starters… with inconsistent playing time.

    The only knock on him that I can see is that LaRussa hates him for whatever reason… he may very well explode with production once he gets out of St. Louis.

    Quentin, we all know who Quentin is. He’s gonna bat .270, he’s gonna hit 25 HR’s, he’s gonna give it almost all back in the field. His peak upside is significantly lower than Rasmus.

  199. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Yankees With Sunday’s four-out save, Mariano Rivera now has 116 saves in his career in which he has gone more than one inning. #YankeesFacts

  200. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    I’m not sure if Nova gets a major league start in the July 30th day-night DH against Baltimore?? Heard Adam Warren might get it??

  201. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    “Should be a fun week in here.

    The Enviro’s (prospect huggers) vs. The loggers (The traders).”

    Hey MTU, how’s it going?

    I’d trade anyone in the Yank system or a combination thereof to get Jimenez, but I don’t think it will happen.

  202. 86w183 July 25th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Irreverent Discourse —–

    Be snarky if you wish, but the guy just has not done much on the MLB level to justify the man crush that several on this site have for him.

    Sure, he’s talented but in three seasons what has he done? Where should I draw lines?

    He doesn’t hit righties all that well. He doesn’t hit lefties all that well. He doesn’t steal bases. He doesn’t hit for high average. He strikes out more than twice as much as he walks.

  203. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    And he makes errors in the field.

    I don’t think he’s a guy you bring into a playoff race and try to remake his swing.

    I think if you’re the White Sox you bring him in.

    If you’re the Yankees, you want Quentin and Thornton.

  204. Melk Man July 25th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    The team needs young position players to counter the aging, streaky bats on the team.

    Rasmus fits the bill

  205. DaSaint007 July 25th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Melky is relatively cheap. KC would be foolish to move him, as they wouldn’t be getting much more back than mid-level minor league talent and possibly some salary relief. I’m not sure Yankee brass want to reunite Cano with Melky though.

    Giambi is an option for DH, but I’d rather have Matsui.

  206. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Age is definitely a factor. But if we’re talking about RF, Quentin does not block the Yankees from signing Matt Kemp. They’re part of the same FA class. Kemp is young.

  207. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Erin – Oh good!! I mean, not good that you havent gotten a response yet but I’m glad you didn’t end up in my spam folder somewhere :D

  208. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Yankee Trader –

    Rasmus’ 2 previous seasons against right handers:

    2009 – .791 OPS, .176 ISO, .341 wOBA
    2010 – .875 OPS, .232 ISO, .372 wOBA

    I’d say this year is not an indication of his true talent, or a large enough sample to matter.

  209. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Erin-

    Don’t want to see Mo in too many more 4 out saves, although it only took 2 pitches to get out of the jam, the soup, the mess!

    Favorite Larry David show is the opening of their new restaurant, fires the bald chef because he hid his badness with toupee, and hires the chef with Tourettes.

  210. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    ID,

    Those are some compelling splits for Rasmus.

    Perhaps Larussa is really damaging his value by giving him inconsistent playing time.

    I think he will be moved.

  211. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    86w – What has he done? He has only been in the league for 2 full seasons, what do you want him to accomplish? He amassed 7 WAR in those 2 seasons, making him a top20 OF in baseball.

    your 25HR cutoff and .250 BA cutoff are meaningless.

    Quentin has been in the league for like 7 seasons, can’t stay healthy and depends on his power to be successful.

  212. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    “It’s a shame I slept through the years that Colby Rasmus was a great player.”

    Its also a shame that i slept through Nova being a great pitcher…..a deal for Rasmus would be a projection deal…..he’s not been a great player this far but he’s been a good player and at 24 he’s still developing. The Yanks have a lot of depth at the level of starter that Nova is…..not so much in young high upside outfielders.

    Trader,

    I can’t look it up now.but that could be a sample size thing against lefties.

  213. DaSaint007 July 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Francour is more likely to be traded than Melky. Good arm, decent bat. Good club house presence. Pure Rental.

    Just don’t see him on the Yankees. Philly, yes. Boston, yes. Yankees, no.

  214. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    I’m not even convinced the one thing we really need is another DH but seeing Godzilla in pinstripes again would be such a sweet surprise…

  215. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Bret – I don’t know what LaRussa’s deal is… I think Rasmus must have kicked his dog. They have “wanted to get rid of Rasmus” for internal reasons since he got called up, but haven’t exactly been fishing in the deep waters. Give the man some clear playing time at a clear position and I think he will absolutely take off production wise.

  216. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Take off right away? Impact the playoff race THIS year?

    That would be nice…

  217. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Bret – Wouldn’t have to do much to have an impact, only has to outproduce Posada and catch one line drive in front of him :)

  218. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Who would have more value in the playoffs: Rasmus or Nova?

    (I don’t have an opinion. Dazzle me, boys.)

  219. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 11:35 am
    I?m not even convinced the one thing we really need is another DH but seeing Godzilla in pinstripes again would be such a sweet surprise?

    *********************
    Agreed. Gotta love Godzilla. :)

  220. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    I’d trade anyone in the Yank system or a combination thereof to get Jimenez, but I don’t think it will happen.
    ————————-
    WYH:
    Attached 7-0 loss last night to Diamondbacks Jimenez 101 pitches in 5 innings Click on box score and see his numbers. He pitched in Colorado last and they let him go 120 pitches in a blowout of the Braves.Wonder what his velocity was last night in the last few innings because in Colorado,his heater was 91-92 the last inning. I’d trade anyone in the Yank system or a combination thereof to get Jimenez, but I don’t think it will happen.

    http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday.....8;c_id=col

  221. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    ID,

    Those splits against righties sold me on Rasmus. His defense is a plus in RF I think or LF. Granderson is just fine in center.

    I’d love to squeeze out Posada and Andruw Jones.

    Those are the weak links on offense.

    We can afford to live with Martin as the only hole on offense.

  222. LGY July 25th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Matt Garza? Uh… no thanks.

    ———————-

    Garza’s has a 3.05 best stat ever aka xFIP. How could you not want him?

  223. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    LGY – Because he’s Matt Garza? Did you want Lilly back in the AL last year?

  224. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Dang, J-UP terrorized Ubaldo Jimenez last night.

    Rox 11 games out.

    Ubaldo NOT dominating like he did last year.

    I hope Colorado adjusts their asking price.

  225. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    ” Who would have more value in the playoffs: Rasmus or Nova?”

    Rasmus because Nova probably wont be in a playoff rotation and because Rasmus in RF would mean Swisher to DH and Jorge to the bench…..sorry Jorge, I love ya but that’s a clear upgrade to the club.

  226. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    YankeesPR The Yankees are proud to kick off #HopeWeek today w/ Daniel’s Music Foundation. http://www.danielsmusic.org; photos from Broadway to come!

  227. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Blake,

    It’s an upgrade in RF defense AND an upgrade over Posada.

    ;)

  228. LGY July 25th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    LGY – Because he’s Matt Garza? Did you want Lilly back in the AL last year?

    ——————

    How does Matt Garza compare to Ted Lilly?

  229. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    I’d trade anyone in the Yank system or a combination thereof to get Jimenez, but I don’t think it will happen.
    ——————————————–
    Oops included that in my response to you.

    I wouldn’t and I agree I don’t think they’ll trade him and his team friendly contract, even for Herschel Walker in his prime. Maybe Bo jackson or Bo Derrick in their prime!!

  230. ADam July 25th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Sadly I dont think there is anything out there that is going to “fix” the Yankees. Is Hiroki Kuroda really an upgrade over a much younger Ivan Nova??? The Yankees Problems can be fixed if Phil Hughes and AJ Burnett can return to form, and getting the team healthy and shuffling the order to make sure that Carlos Pena.. Woops, I mean Mark Tiexiera is moved to 5th or 6th in the order…. Other than that, no one on the trade market is going to boost the Yanks to another level….

  231. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    http://www.fangraphs.com/fanta.....decliners/

    Matt Garza appears on this list due to his .313 BABIP and 66.6% LOB%, which are somewhat offset by his 7.5% HR/FB ratio. Given the Cubs awful defense though, the BABIP may stick, making it a little more difficult to strand a higher percentage of runners. This would be a positive for his strikeout rate, but of course, not his ERA or WHIP. What will be interesting to monitor is whether he is able to sustain this new found ground ball inducing ability. It would help limit the damage once his HR/FB ratio increases.

  232. LGY July 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    “The Yankees are among the teams pursuing the Dodgers’ Hiroki Kuroda, tweets Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports.”

    —————–

    Good.

    I hope they are looking into Edwin Jackson as well.

  233. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    LGY – A so-so AL starter traded to the NL where he finds success? It’s a story we’ve heard before.

  234. LGY July 25th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    If Matt Garza is a so-so AL starter what is AJ Burnett?

  235. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    I would give the Dodgers Pena and Mitre for Kuroda.

  236. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    “I wouldn’t and I agree I don’t think they’ll trade him and his team friendly contract, even for Herschel Walker in his prime.”

    He’s having a down year for him, sort of like Dan Haren last year this time. Good time to make a deal, but like we both agree I don’t think it will happen.

  237. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    I know CB would love to have Rasmus and Jimenez here.

    He was very bullish on both those guys last year.

  238. LGY July 25th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Garza has changed his arsenal this year. He used to be all 4 seam fastball.

    Now he only throws 36% 4 seamers.

  239. LGY July 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    A Wave Your Hat sighting!

    What’s up?

  240. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    WYH-

    Good to see you around Man ! Where have you been hiding ?

    I gave my opinion on U-Jim a while back.

    Not sure I’d go as far as you might be I think under the right circumstances he would be one hell of an addition.

    At this point in time, my feeling is that O’Dowd is basically just doing a JU with Ubaldo.

    Testing the market waiting to see if he gets blown away.

    Don’t think that’s gonna happen though.

    Please don’t be a stranger in the future.

    Like your iconoclastic ways at times. Makes it interesting.

    :)

  241. blake July 25th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Offer Nova, Phelps, and Laird for Rasmus.

  242. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Blake,

    Would you do Nova + Warren + Laird?

  243. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    jimcallisBA #Yankees sign 4th-rder Matt Duran for $335k. New York HS 3B’s best tool is his plus power. #mlbdraft

  244. Shame Spencer July 25th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    blake – I wasn’t sure if people thought Nova would end up in our pen come October. But I see your point.

    I tend to agree with ADam to a certain extent though.. some of our guys just need to play/pitch to the back of their baseball cards and we’d be fine.

  245. blake July 25th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    “Would you do Nova + Warren + Laird? ”

    Yes.

  246. Irreverent Discourse July 25th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    LGY – Whatever he’s doing he has completely changed his GB/FB profile, and almost totally limited damage on FB (although 7 of the 8 HR he gave up were in his last 10 starts). I just don’t like buying high, it’s bad business.

  247. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Blake-

    If you offer Nova, what do you do if Hughes can’t handle it ? Who fills the rotation slot ?

    Nova is a proven commodity and right now may be better than Hughes.

  248. GreenBeret7 July 25th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    jimcallisBA Jim Callis
    FYI, nearly twice MLB’s slot value at No. 149 ($171k). RT @jimcallisba: #Yankees sign 4th-rder Matt Duran for $335k. Plus power. #mlbdraft

    A 3rd baseman…from Hank’s Yanks

  249. Erin July 25th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    New Post: HOPE Week begins with Daniel’s Music Foundation

    :arrow:

  250. Wave Your Hat July 25th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    MTU and LGY-

    I’ve been really busy. Haven’t had the time to post much. The trade deadline is always an interesting time though. I’m thinking the Yanks need a lefty reliever (they’ll get one), a DH (50% chance) and a starter (20% chance), preferably a lefty starter (5% chance).

  251. blake July 25th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    MTU,

    Noesi, Warren, Phelps, some guy they trade for ;)

  252. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Offer Nova, Phelps, and Laird for Rasmus.
    ——————————-
    yes I would do that………………………………..for Justin Upton.

  253. Bret The Hitman July 25th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    WYH,

    Lefty reliever: Thornton

    DH: Quentin

    Lefty starter: Bedard

  254. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    WYH-

    Choate, or Breslow maybe ?

    Lot’s of thorny bushes to clear out so there’s a clear path to a better lineup.

    ;)

  255. MTU July 25th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Blake-

    Shouldn’t you make sure your net is place before you go up on the high wire ?

    ;)

  256. blake July 25th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Trader,

    Towers would laugh at that for Upton though…..Im trying to be realistic ;)

  257. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    I’ve been really busy. Haven’t had the time to post much. The trade deadline is always an interesting time though. I’m thinking the Yanks need a lefty reliever (they’ll get one), a DH (50% chance) and a starter (20% chance), preferably a lefty starter (5% chance).
    ———————————–
    WYH-
    good to see you around. List of lefty starters probably available: Not endorsing any of them:

    jeff francis
    bruce chen
    jo-jo reyes
    ? brett cecil
    wandy rodriguez
    ted lilly
    chris capuano
    barry zito
    tom gorzellany
    john lannon

  258. Yankee Trader July 25th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Blake-

    Sorry. Bad attempt at humor. Was trying to avoid LOL or an emoticon.

    MTU-

    Craig Breslow. I just was talking to his Uncle yesterday. He’s from New Haven, went to Yale and rooms with Andrew Bailey. His Uncle wouldn’t mind him on the Yankees, closer to home.

    Can anyone name the last MLB player, since Breslow to attend Yale? I was asked that, didn’t know, and had to google it.

  259. YES July 25th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    If the Mariners are willing to admit they are far from being competitive even with King Felix, they can build quicker by trading him to Yanks for 4 top prospects: (Nova, Betances, Montero, Nunez).

    They get 2 young quality pitchers (one who is has already won 8 games at the MLB level this yr.), plus 2 young bats with unlimited potential (Nunez is already hitting MLB pitching showing speed & power for a SS, and Montero is the #1 prospect in the organization)

    Thats a starting SS, a starting Catcher or DH, & a #2 & #3 pitchers to slot with Pinero for M’s. In turn Felix can pair with CC to give Yankees a formidable 1-2 punch to start off any playoff series.

    As for the Yankees offense, they have GOT to get rid of Posada. He is just worthless, (slow, strikes out a lot & hits into too many GIDP).

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