Brett Gardner LF
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada DH
Eric Chavez 3B
Francisco Cervelli C
There is no real reason to play it safe with Chavez…..get as much as you can for as long as you can out of him……you cold be extra careful with him and he could get hurt cutting his toenails and be out for the season.
My spider senses are telling me that there will be a trade for a bullpen guy tomorrow named Soriano. I wonder if we can flip that trade for another before he touches down.
MTU,
Maybe you’re right, but if the Yanks make a big trade I’d be fine with it. If they don’t, I’d be fine with that, too. I just want somebody to break the ice.
tomingeorgia July 26th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I’d like to see one REAL trade go down, and I don’t care who makes it.
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Right now we’re looking at K-Rod to the Brewers, but that wasn’t a REAL trade-more like a giveaway. And then there’s Jeff Keppinger for two mediocre A pitchers I believe.
“Will Soriano agree to pitch against a team as bad as the Mariners?”
Yes, but then he will take the series against the Orioles off because he doesn’t want division rivals to learn his ‘secret’.
It is still questionable as to whether or not he will pitch in the Chicago series. If they get on a little run, he probably won’t because they will be considered a good team. And forget about him in the Boston series afterwards.
Tom – I think the posters before got it right, as long as theres this much mediocrity ..uhm..excuse me..”parody” in the league, the blockbusters will be few and far between at every deadline.
When I think that some people seriously want a hard cap on baseball I cry… it’d be like this but even less interesting.
blake July 26th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Will Soriano agree to pitch against a team as bad as the Mariners?
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Wonder if there’s a clause in his contract to terminate it for cause-like insubordination!!!
Thanks Erin. I’m curious to see what the Rays do at this point. They’re the type of organization that will only be good for 2-4 year windows at a time and then have to unload and rebuild. And I don’t think thats based just in their philosophy. The fact that they play in the AL East is a big contributor.
I hope the Rays trade Upton soon. They won’t get much for him and it will set the market for Colby Rasmus – forcing the Cards to come down on their demands for “a TON”.
Shame Spencer July 26th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Tom – I think the posters before got it right, as long as theres this much mediocrity ..uhm..excuse me..”parody” in the league, the blockbusters will be few and far between at every deadline.
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Just think next year, when the league adds two more wild card teams. How many teams will feel they are out of the race July 31st? Hopefully the trading deadline will be moved forward a few weeks.
Interesting trade proposals, my two cents: I think the yankees will make a trade for a true elite pitcher or they will stand pat, which is the way i think they will go, there is no sense of trading prospects if the upgrade doesn`t take us to the next level, we already can make the play offs with the team we have.
Having said that, they might try to get a bat or/and they will finally promote The Jesus to the big leagues, i would do both. Beltran and Montero can you imagine that line up???
I think you could include Montero + G. Sanchez for Ubaldo Jimenez because you still have Martin + Cervelli as a bridge to Romine + JR Murphy. The rationale behind my offer for Jimenez is by including Sanchez, you protect Manny Banuelos from the deal and still remain close to the Rox original demands.
As for Nova vs. Noesi. Nova has more trade value than Noesi so I’d want to keep Nova out of the deal and flip him for an OF.
Where are all those INSIDERS we used to have i.e. bobcat and Lost. I miss having my ear to the cup listening in. Wheres SJ when you need him. This week is killing me. Its only Tuesday and I want to open up our deadline present already!
Honestly, there’s not nearly enough evidence that Ubaldo Jimenez has the command necessary to succeed in the AL East.
I don’t make much of his slightly bloated ERA this year because this has been a very, very strange year for pitchers, one that by its end may have us reevaluating the standards for what defines an effective pitcher (a 4.00 ERA innings eater may no longer be distinguished as a #2 or #3 starter but rather as a #4 or #5).
But he’s struggled with command his entire career and despite electric stuff, has never posted particularly exceptional strikeout numbers.
If he can’t whiff a batter an inning in the NL, facing the pitcher, with that kind of stuff, you better not believe he’ll come close to doing so in the AL. And facing patient AL lineups on a regular basis is almost certain to cause his already inflated walk rate to rise over 4 per nine.
A guy who walks 4 per nine and only strikes out (at most) 8ish per nine in the AL?
No thanks.
I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of trading Montero for him.
Especially considering that the Yankees need to KEEP offense, not trade it.
Offense is the biggest need in this organization. Banuelos and Betances are to me far more expendable than Montero.
And for the record, Hector Noesi should (and probably does) have more trade value than Nova because he’s a lot better than Nova, and it doesn’t take an astute talent evaluator to see that.
The red sox and rangers both want Beltran. The Yankees should trade for him simply to snub both of those teams AND upgrade their offense with a high average, high on base, high power bat that can push Swisher to DH and get Jorge’s limp bat out of the everyday lineup.
MTU,
Monteros bags have been packed since last year. We need the who what when wheres. I need my deadline fix. Give me some rumor nuggets. Hell lie to me, I dont really care at this point.
SoS – I would trade any prospect for a player like Justin Upton, probably 2.
Prospects are only potential, and have no guaranteed value. Even a guy like Montero who has been touted to high heaven could only hope to be as good a player as Upton has already become.
Jerkface,
Doesnt he have a no trade clause. You would think with him wanting to stay in the NL that maybe playing for the team your idol played for would be an exception and give us the upper hand. Time to put Bernie to work.
StoneLarry Larry Stone by pcaldera
I think these Brett Favre-to-the-Seahawks rumors are off. He’s actually coming to the Mariners to play center field.
I wonder how Mr. Ugly at third base would look if he put a wig on that looked like this. I would guess that it would be like putting lipstick on a pig.
Joelsherman1 15 mins AL exec: said: #Astros asked big return on Wandy Rodriguez few weeks back, “will take little at deadline to get rid of most of his contract.
Since we are in that mood, why nt halladay with all the money to pay the contract in exchange for Igawa, his sunglasses and a bag of brand new baseballs signed by Igawa himself???
The Yankees are paid to know when to get rid of a prospect, but I’m not. LOL! Of course it would be wonderful t have Kemp & Kershaw or Danks & Thornton or Hernandez & League or …
Joelsherman1 15 mins AL exec: said: #Astros asked big return on Wandy Rodriguez few weeks back, “will take little at deadline to get rid of most of his contract.
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Im starting to believe that all these GMs were reading “how to sell stuff in Tijuana for dummies”. Mark me word, the closer we get to the border it will be 2 for a dollar.
The safest package is probably Rasmus-Garza. We know what Garza can do in the AL East and there are not many question marks with him. Rasmus, at worst is a .770 OPS outfielder who will likely benefit from a change of scenery and playing home games in NYS.
The most expensive package will probably be Kemp, but he is the best player in any of these proposals. Bedard is a huge gamble – bad clubhouse guy, injury prone and 50/50 as to whether he will even take the mound in October.
Jimenez/Thorton is the biggest gamble with the highest upside. We could be getting a legit #1 starter making peanuts for 4 years and a stud lefty set up man, or AJ Burnett part 2 and an erratic Boone Logan clone.
Gio/DeJesus… that package only yields 1 impact player. DeJesus doesn’t do much to upgrade the offense, probably just a bat off the bench. Gio would be good, but not nearly as good outside the AL West/Oakland, yet his pricetag would be a guy that he is in OAK. By far the “worst” package for me.
If I’m giving up big prospects, give me the only sure thing of this group – Matt Kemp. As be becomes the cornerstone of the team hitting 40 bombs and playing GG defense. I’ll gamble on Bedard, expecting nothing though. So the Bedard/Kemp package.
BJ Upton has a ton of talent. But haven’t we (as fans) seen enough of him to realize he doesnt turn that talent into results? Personally, I would hate to see him on the Yanks (not that he’s coming here anyway, because there’s no room for him).
Maybe Kershaw could sedate him by using horse tranquilizers ?
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MTU,
No! No! No! Youd think with all thats happened recently you would have learned from it. That would mean we would have Kemp for 50 less games. Bad idea. Time for Alex to refuel that jet.
Bottom line is that the Yankees need a #2 starter and the only available starter that fits the description is Ubaldo. Get it done Cashman – Nova, Noesi, JR Murphy, Laird and Nunez.
It would be cool if Felix Hernandez just walks across the field tonight between innings, plants his fanny right next to Freddy Garcia and refuses to leave the Yankees dugout.
His contract isn’t THAT bad…..he’s better than Lackey and the Astros would probably eat some of it. You might be right but I think they might would consider it for next year as well……and I agree wit you on BJ……he’d be tough to watch on a daily basis and Yankee fans would destroy him for some of the lack of effort stuff he does.
According to Sherman, Astros have come down in their demands for players in return as long as someone takes his whole deal. Their owner wants to get payroll down to 60 mil (various sources), so I cant see them eating any of his deal.
The Yanks dont like the contact either, but if they dont have to give up anything real in return, they may change their mind.
Wandys contract is 3/34…..its not a good contract but its not John Lackey or AJ bad. I don’t want him…..I just said I wouldn’t be shocked if the Sox did because he’d be their #4 and.better than Lackey, Wakefield, and all the other fillers they’ve been throwing out there.
“Heyman is on fire…but was it Olney who broke Cliff Lee to the Phillies in the winter?”
I’m not sure who exactly, but I just remember all the news from the different writers broke within seconds of on another. Though the first report was that the Yankees were informed by the agent that they were ‘out’ of the race. Only like 10 mins later did the news break that it was the Phillies.
blake July 26th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Wandys contract is 3/34…..its not a good contract but its not John Lackey or AJ bad. I don’t want him…..I just said I wouldn’t be shocked if the Sox did because he’d be their #4 and.better than Lackey, Wakefield, and all the other fillers they’ve been throwing out there.
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It’s not Wandy’s contract I find objectionable, it’s Wandy himself. I don’t see him as a clear upgrade over anyone in the Yankee rotation.
He’s been thriving pitching for a team that stinks in the NL Central – I certainly don’t trust him enough to thrust him into the AL East in the middle of a pennant race.
I think they’ll try to hang on to Pence for now as he’s their best player and he’s controlled through 2013. Im.sure they’d deal him if someone wanted to pay a lot…..I don’t think he’s that type of player though. Love to have him…..just not enough to convince an unmotivated seller to sell him.
FWIW, Jack Z said on the radio today that they weren’t trading Felix…….that they were going to keep him and have a chance to win 1 out of 5 games 2-1 for the next 3 years. Ok he didn’t exactly say that……but that’s what he should have said
“The price on Jimenez hasn’t dropped at all, writes ESPN’s Jayson Stark. He says the Rockies require “three sure-thing young players, including one pitcher who goes into their rotation immediately.”
This stuff with Ubaldo has seemed to have a lot more legs than what Towers did with Upton. If they really want to deal him then the only concerning thing is why now……his value shouldn’t drop much from now to the winter and coukd even go up if he had a good rest of the season……its a bit curious.
Luis I have been to Venezuela many times. If you live there you will be able to answer this question easily. And there is no one in Venezuela that wouldn’t know the answer.
“There was a very famous ad campaign, that was the talk of the country for a long time. What was it?”
How about I will send you an email and you can copy and repaste it here? I will confirm that it is the email that was sent. It should take 2 minutes of your time to clear up this crap.
By the way i read your post. So you came during the mid to late 90`s. Yes security issues were rampant then but now is even worse, the fashionable crime is kidnaping now both express and profesional. Sorry to hear about your camera
LGY – Make no mistake, I wasn’t killing people for wanting Upton. I was the one arguing that no amount of prospects were going to tear him away from Arizona this year. That’s not to say I wouldn’t give up some prospects to get him, he’s awesome… but to some the cost of business and their willingness to give up players never cross paths.
Jerkface – I would imagine that the list of established major leaguers that plummet in value after a trade pales in comparison to the list of top50 prospects that have missed.
There are only to campains that i could remember like that, Renny Ottolinas campaing back in the late 70`s and his presidential campaing with the glasses. Or The Metro de Caracas campain that made people act completely diferent when they enter the subway system ( people acted very respectfuly when inside the subway)
If the Reds are able to build a package around Homer Bailey for Ubaldo, then Cashman better throw Hughes in there since they are same age/same hype except Hughes had an All Star appearance already.
Trade Hughes, Nova, Romine and some lesser guys for Ubaldo and call it a day. The Reds have already taken Chapman and their 1 prospect C off the table in talks according to the reports.
Erin July 26th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
108 stitches July 26th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Who does Chavez replace on the 25-man roster ? Dickerson ? Laird ?
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Thank you Erin. I had hoped to see Laird play one of the OF corners sometime soon but now it won’t happen until the September callups when rosters expand.
You are correct Luis, it’s the “Metro de Caracas campaign.” There is no chance that anyone who didn’t live there would know that. I asked you believing you would know and that you were telling the truth – despite the lies and slander that were directed at you.
Will you guys leave luis alone? He’s done nothing wrong in here. He doesn’t have to do anything to prove anything to anyone. Chad vouched for him in here a few days ago. It’s a dead issue. Stop wasting space on it.
GLove, it’s hardly that easy. You have been on Hughes’ back for a long time – so if you feel that way, why wouldn’t the Rockies? Nevermind that he’s a HR pitcher and would not do well in that park. These trade proposals where we get rid of some of our lesser lights in exchange for a top players are silly………
Will you guys leave luis alone? He’s done nothing wrong in here. He doesn’t have to do anything to prove anything to anyone. Chad vouched for him in here a few days ago. It’s a dead issue. Stop wasting space on it.
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I asked him because I know he is telling the truth and I wanted him to prove it conclusively as he was still being questioned. I resent anyone being accused of anything falsely.
luis,
I was born in Venezuela but came to the states at a real young age, dont know much about it. Went to visit for a week about 10 years ago. All I can say is Caracas has some nice clubs if you know what im saying. Still have some family their though.
Only 2 games behind a real good rs team with no big offseason moves,except the one cashman got overruled of,wich hasn’t helped us win 1 game yet anyhow.
I would not give up any good prospect at all,even romine unless i am getting over on another team,not the other way round.
It also doesn’t matter if the pitchers names don’t sound pretty,as long as the results are there.
Lets get arod back,cashman should just play it cool,keep the kids unlrss something makes sense.
i pass on ubaldo and go all out for king felix. king felix is worth giving up a ton of talent, ubaldo has many question marks.
alos the comedy over kuroda is laughable. the yanks would have to give up what for Him? he is not very good and is 35 + years old. I give them almost nothing for Kuroda, not sure he would even be in the rotation.
wow, guess your family came with the oil companies. Yeah I know what you mean. It`s still a beautyful country but The past twelve years has been a nightmare
What is it this week? You like Phil or you hate him? Which way is the wind blowing over there? I guess it’s you like him again.
I brought him up because there was a report that the Reds were using Homer Bailey to get Ubaldo and I felt Hughes was a step up from Bailey. It was actually a compliment to his status in the game at this point.
And yes, I’d rather have a 27yo Ubaldo than a 25 yo Hughes.
Bedard is a huge gamble – bad clubhouse guy, injury prone and 50/50 as to whether he will even take the mound in October.
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I know I’m a guest here (and I really try to be a good one) but sometimes I feel like quite the ‘wall-flower’ … as I have addressed this “assumption” more than once.
Granted, I’m not actually in the clubhouse, but I have never once heard it reported that any of Erik’s teammates, coaches or managers have a problem with his character. In fact, quite the opposite has been reported – he is respected and admired for his attitude an work ethic. The only “group” that had problems with Erik early on in his tenure with Seattle was the media. The rode him hard for his rather ‘curt’ responses in pressers and post game interviews. But, once they got the gist of his dry sense of humor, and the fact that he doesn’t like to talk about himself much, they let it be.
Now, as for the injury concern… I’m right there with ya.
GLove, give me a break – you missed the point. I happen to agree with you about Phil……MY POINT was that if you see those things in Phil, why on earth would the Rockies want him? Would you care to explain why the Rockies would want him?
That’s fantastic that you would prefer Jimenez over Hughes – so would 99.99 % of Yankee fans…………but while Jimenez might eventually come here, it’s not going to be for Hughes.
The Yankees aren’t going to make any MAJOR deals at the trade deadline. They have the Wildcard wrapped up and aren’t going to throw good money after bad to try to catch Boston for 1st place in the AL East.
The only type of deal they might make would be for a second LOOGY and they aren’t going to give up much to get him.
Why is that dead beat Posada hitting in front of Chavez?
In fact why is he even in the lineup, Nunez is hitting 50 points higher, & adds speed & a more dynamic offensive threat than that shot 40 yr. old S.O. & G.I.D.P. machine.
Chavey’s back
Looks like we just made a trade.
Guys name is Chavez. Plays third.
There is no real reason to play it safe with Chavez…..get as much as you can for as long as you can out of him……you cold be extra careful with him and he could get hurt cutting his toenails and be out for the season.
Yay Chavez is back from the dead!
Why is Posada batting ahead of Chavez?
Forget Rasmus. Lets go after J.Upton. Give them an offer they cant refuse. What would it take?
WELCOME BACK CHAVY!!!
Finally, he has returned and at a time when the Yankees can use his bat the most.
I am guessing that B. Laird must be sent down to make room yes??
Looks like we just made a trade.
Guys name is Chavez. Plays third.
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My spider senses are telling me that there will be a trade for a bullpen guy tomorrow named Soriano. I wonder if we can flip that trade for another before he touches down.
I don’t want to trade for anyone.
I’m keeping everyone and going into extreme prospect hugging mode.
Nobody is available.
Not even Igawa.
That’s my bottom line.
SoS – Maybe if you traded them the entire AAA affiliate you could think about getting Upton. For anything less than that? Not gonna happen.
SoS-
Ask Chip or Bret.
I’d like to see one REAL trade go down, and I don’t care who makes it.
Would you do this deal for Ubaldo Jimenez?
They supposedly gunned for Montero + Betances + Banuelos + Nova.
My offer replaces Banuelos with Gary Sanchez and Nova with Noesi.
Montero + Betances + G. Sanchez + Noesi.
Do the Rockies do it? Is it close enough to their original demands?
Blake-
Are you getting tired of trying to convince Trader of what’s obvious that Ubaldo is very good Pitcher ?
I am.
Trader. Blake and I will take him. You can pass if you like.
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I want him too, but not at the expense of starting with Montero+1 of the B’s + 3 other very goodplayers/prospects, as mentioned here.
Anyway,MTU, if you trade away Montero now, who ya using to get you Justin Upton, your main object of affection!!
Tom-
Sounds like you’re suffering from pre-trade traumatic stress disorder(PTSD).
Will Soriano agree to pitch against a team as bad as the Mariners?
Hey Erin and MTU. Good to see you both out here. How is the weather where you are? It has cooled off here into the low eighties.
MTU I’d hang onto our top flight prospects. They are only a year or two away.
Erin where’s Upstate Kate? Miss her.
All the best. C
SoS – Maybe if you traded them the entire AAA affiliate you could think about getting Upton. For anything less than that? Not gonna happen.
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Give me a day to promote Montero and you got yourself a deal.
SoS – That would certainly nullify any deal for Upton.
” Eric Chavez! ……You Look Mahvelous!!”
We’re still waiting for Sterlings call.
I would rather trade Nova than Noesi….and I think if you deal Montero you wanna keep Sanchez.
What about the rumors teams are checking up on BJ Upton..? Anyone see him being dealt before the deadline?
MTU,
Maybe you’re right, but if the Yanks make a big trade I’d be fine with it. If they don’t, I’d be fine with that, too. I just want somebody to break the ice.
tomingeorgia July 26th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
I’d like to see one REAL trade go down, and I don’t care who makes it.
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Right now we’re looking at K-Rod to the Brewers, but that wasn’t a REAL trade-more like a giveaway. And then there’s Jeff Keppinger for two mediocre A pitchers I believe.
Jorgie and Cervi….Hurray!
Gary Sanchez is like the forgotten man…..he’s 18 years old. He’s still really talented.
Trader-
Just giving you a hard time. The thing with Ubaldo is the price of course.
I’m convinced they want Montero. Question is what else + it takes.
I’d definitely do Montero and Nova ++. Not sure if I want to go further.
Upton is easy. Towers owes us. He likes pitching.
Hi Comet! The weather finally broke over the weekend, so it’s no longer 100 degrees. This is a very good thing.
kate was around this AM
ID,
Would you trade one of the Bs and Montero for him?
“Will Soriano agree to pitch against a team as bad as the Mariners?”
Yes, but then he will take the series against the Orioles off because he doesn’t want division rivals to learn his ‘secret’.
It is still questionable as to whether or not he will pitch in the Chicago series. If they get on a little run, he probably won’t because they will be considered a good team. And forget about him in the Boston series afterwards.
I like when Cervelli plays.
Shame- Joelsherman1 #Rays had scout watching #Nationals Triple-A team yest, more fuel that Wash is pushing for BJ Upton
Tom – I think the posters before got it right, as long as theres this much mediocrity ..uhm..excuse me..”parody” in the league, the blockbusters will be few and far between at every deadline.
When I think that some people seriously want a hard cap on baseball I cry… it’d be like this but even less interesting.
Gary Sanchez is like the forgotten man…..he’s 18 years old. He’s still really talented.
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I heard if you throw a fit or ruffle some feathers you get voted off the island. Just go ask Tabata.
Comet-
Mid 90′s with rain. A little bit of Monsoon action.
This is the silly season we always toss around all kinds of trade proposals.
Some make sense some not.
Chance for us to play amateur GM and fail miserably.
blake July 26th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
Will Soriano agree to pitch against a team as bad as the Mariners?
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Wonder if there’s a clause in his contract to terminate it for cause-like insubordination!!!
Jack Z is coming on MLBRadio next……where he will announce that he’s changed his.mind and is.dealing Felix to the Yankees
So now that Chavez is back. Does that mean hes the third baseman and Nunez goes to the bench or does he take some of Posadas dh role?
Thanks Erin. I’m curious to see what the Rays do at this point. They’re the type of organization that will only be good for 2-4 year windows at a time and then have to unload and rebuild. And I don’t think thats based just in their philosophy. The fact that they play in the AL East is a big contributor.
I hope the Rays trade Upton soon. They won’t get much for him and it will set the market for Colby Rasmus – forcing the Cards to come down on their demands for “a TON”.
Please, SF Giants, don’t be shy.
So now that Chavez is back. Does that mean hes the third baseman and Nunez goes to the bench or does he take some of Posadas dh role
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Prob Chavez vs RH and Nunez vs LH for now.
If Chavez hits like he did before he got hurt then he will steal.DH days from Jorge.
Shame Spencer July 26th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Tom – I think the posters before got it right, as long as theres this much mediocrity ..uhm..excuse me..”parody” in the league, the blockbusters will be few and far between at every deadline.
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Just think next year, when the league adds two more wild card teams. How many teams will feel they are out of the race July 31st? Hopefully the trading deadline will be moved forward a few weeks.
Hi everybody,
Interesting trade proposals, my two cents: I think the yankees will make a trade for a true elite pitcher or they will stand pat, which is the way i think they will go, there is no sense of trading prospects if the upgrade doesn`t take us to the next level, we already can make the play offs with the team we have.
Having said that, they might try to get a bat or/and they will finally promote The Jesus to the big leagues, i would do both. Beltran and Montero can you imagine that line up???
so lets see how long Chavez hangs…my bet not long
Might as well play Chavez all week and see if he makes it healthy to the deadline.
Blake,
I think you could include Montero + G. Sanchez for Ubaldo Jimenez because you still have Martin + Cervelli as a bridge to Romine + JR Murphy. The rationale behind my offer for Jimenez is by including Sanchez, you protect Manny Banuelos from the deal and still remain close to the Rox original demands.
As for Nova vs. Noesi. Nova has more trade value than Noesi so I’d want to keep Nova out of the deal and flip him for an OF.
Where are all those INSIDERS we used to have i.e. bobcat and Lost. I miss having my ear to the cup listening in. Wheres SJ when you need him. This week is killing me. Its only Tuesday and I want to open up our deadline present already!
I expect at least 1 major deal before the TD is over.
It may not be the Yankees though.
Happens just about every year.
Bobcat, Lost, SJ are MIA.
The only insider that we know of here is Pat M.
that we know of…
Luis:
I sent you an email to the following address: lavelu@yahoo.com It came back as undeliverable, was there an error in your email address above ?
tomingeorgia July 26th, 2011 at 3:53 pm
As long is not the RS, i`m cool with it. Or the tigers getting Ubaldo ,that team would be scary to face
Great read:
YankeesInk Daniel’s Music. #HopeWeek http://bit.ly/p2mHNX
You people already have a piece of inside info.
Pat M. has already said that he hears whispers that the Yankees are dangling Montero to see what he could bring back.
His sources are usually very good.
VY,
No as far as i`m concerned, thats the correct e- mail address
VY,
But please if it is in relation to the incident, please don`t send me anything, i really want to put this thing behind me. Stick to baseball please
One completed trade would give some idea about what the market is really like.
SI_JonHeyman 6 mins strong belief now best beltran offer may come from #rangers. 1 hangup: he prefers nl. atl, sf, milw still in, #tradedeadline
Considering there is a good.chance the Yankees play the Rangers in the first round……that wouldn’t be good. Their lineup is already real good.
Honestly, there’s not nearly enough evidence that Ubaldo Jimenez has the command necessary to succeed in the AL East.
I don’t make much of his slightly bloated ERA this year because this has been a very, very strange year for pitchers, one that by its end may have us reevaluating the standards for what defines an effective pitcher (a 4.00 ERA innings eater may no longer be distinguished as a #2 or #3 starter but rather as a #4 or #5).
But he’s struggled with command his entire career and despite electric stuff, has never posted particularly exceptional strikeout numbers.
If he can’t whiff a batter an inning in the NL, facing the pitcher, with that kind of stuff, you better not believe he’ll come close to doing so in the AL. And facing patient AL lineups on a regular basis is almost certain to cause his already inflated walk rate to rise over 4 per nine.
A guy who walks 4 per nine and only strikes out (at most) 8ish per nine in the AL?
No thanks.
I wouldn’t even entertain the idea of trading Montero for him.
Especially considering that the Yankees need to KEEP offense, not trade it.
Offense is the biggest need in this organization. Banuelos and Betances are to me far more expendable than Montero.
And for the record, Hector Noesi should (and probably does) have more trade value than Nova because he’s a lot better than Nova, and it doesn’t take an astute talent evaluator to see that.
Chavez!!!!
The red sox and rangers both want Beltran. The Yankees should trade for him simply to snub both of those teams AND upgrade their offense with a high average, high on base, high power bat that can push Swisher to DH and get Jorge’s limp bat out of the everyday lineup.
blake July 26th, 2011 at 4:13 pm
Blake,
Does beltran has a no trade option right?
Luis:
I will try again.
Blake-
If the Rays change their mind and deal James Shields to the Rangers that might be worse, or Ubaldo Jimenez.
MTU,
Monteros bags have been packed since last year. We need the who what when wheres. I need my deadline fix. Give me some rumor nuggets. Hell lie to me, I dont really care at this point.
SoS – I would trade any prospect for a player like Justin Upton, probably 2.
Prospects are only potential, and have no guaranteed value. Even a guy like Montero who has been touted to high heaven could only hope to be as good a player as Upton has already become.
Prospects are only potential, and have no guaranteed value
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Players are only potential as well with no guaranteed value
Adam Dunn, Carl Crawford, Jayson Werth, Javy Vazquez
Jerkface,
Doesnt he have a no trade clause. You would think with him wanting to stay in the NL that maybe playing for the team your idol played for would be an exception and give us the upper hand. Time to put Bernie to work.
Check out these potential deadline hauls.
Which one would you pick?
A)Ubaldo Jimenez + Matt Thornton
B)Gio Gonzalez + David DeJesus
C)Matt Kemp + Erik Bedard
D)Colby Rasmus + Matt Garza
SoS-
OK.
We’re getting Ubaldo, Rasmus, Beltran, and Thornton.
How’s that ?
Rumor of Giants-Rays Upton talks reported on Giants’ flagship station.
StoneLarry Larry Stone by pcaldera
I think these Brett Favre-to-the-Seahawks rumors are off. He’s actually coming to the Mariners to play center field.
Since no one here wants Ubaldo, let the redsox have him….LOL You all would be pissed if that happened so lets stop fooling ourselves.
Why do these deadline ‘hauls’ each include like some kind of terrible second player? Thornton? No. Dejesus? No. Bedard? No. Garza? No.
http://omg.yahoo.com/news/pic-.....tyle/68087
I wonder how Mr. Ugly at third base would look if he put a wig on that looked like this. I would guess that it would be like putting lipstick on a pig.
Can someone tell Ben hes no longer a teenager.
Bret-
E) Ubaldo + Kemp
I can dream right ?
A guy who walks 4 per nine and only strikes out (at most) 8ish per nine in the AL?
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How many of his walks are intentional?
Luis,
Yes….full no.trade.
Bret,
Would depend on what you’d have to give up in each on those packages but the player Id want most is Matt Kemp.
SoS-I just saw that picture a little while ago. That is just not a good look on him. At all. LOL
SoS-
OK.
We’re getting Ubaldo, Rasmus, Beltran, and Thornton.
How’s that ?
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MTU,
As you can see Im in flip mode today. Can we flip them for Felix and Justin?
MTU,
hahahahaha
I’m laughing here.
Yes, you can dream just wash the sheets in the morning.
Trader,
Yea it would.
Bret-
Answer C. Kemp and Bedard or no Bedard. problem is Kemp is not a potential trade acquisition.
Jerkface,
Maybe the cost in prospects is too high if you combine 2 excellent players. I tried to balance the deals by cost.
SoS-
I’m all for upgrades. Sure. Kershaw and Justin works too.
hmmm…lots of action on Kemp.
can’t wait till free agency?
The ESPN tell-all, Those Guys Have All the Fun is being turned into a movie:
http://popwatch.ew.com/2011/07/26/espn-movie/
Joelsherman1 15 mins AL exec: said: #Astros asked big return on Wandy Rodriguez few weeks back, “will take little at deadline to get rid of most of his contract.
Sound like asking prices are coming down – we’re entering the eye of the storm.
Since we are in that mood, why nt halladay with all the money to pay the contract in exchange for Igawa, his sunglasses and a bag of brand new baseballs signed by Igawa himself???
we’re entering the eye of the storm.
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Nothing happens in the eye of the storm, booo
I’m all for upgrades. Sure. Kershaw and Justin works too.
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MTU,
Even better. Send Kershaw a big enough carry on bag so he can bring Kemp on the flight with him.
Thing is we’ll probably wind up with someone like Choate or Breslow and a bag of popcorn.
But we will keep every single last one of our potentailly great and amazing prospects.
Chavez was on the 60 day DL – any word on who was bounced to get him on the 40 man roster?
The Dodgers probably should be shopping Kemp.
MTU July 26th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
You are starting to sound like me prospect hugger
SoS-
Kemp is large enough that he has to go into Cargo.
Maybe Kershaw could sedate him by using horse tranquilizers ?
Price on Beltran fell, price on Wandy fell.
Now for the big fish.
The Yankees are paid to know when to get rid of a prospect, but I’m not. LOL! Of course it would be wonderful t have Kemp & Kershaw or Danks & Thornton or Hernandez & League or …
Joelsherman1 15 mins AL exec: said: #Astros asked big return on Wandy Rodriguez few weeks back, “will take little at deadline to get rid of most of his contract.
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Im starting to believe that all these GMs were reading “how to sell stuff in Tijuana for dummies”. Mark me word, the closer we get to the border it will be 2 for a dollar.
A)Ubaldo Jimenez + Matt Thornton
B)Gio Gonzalez + David DeJesus
C)Matt Kemp + Erik Bedard
D)Colby Rasmus + Matt Garza
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Wow. Those are 4 great deals.
The safest package is probably Rasmus-Garza. We know what Garza can do in the AL East and there are not many question marks with him. Rasmus, at worst is a .770 OPS outfielder who will likely benefit from a change of scenery and playing home games in NYS.
The most expensive package will probably be Kemp, but he is the best player in any of these proposals. Bedard is a huge gamble – bad clubhouse guy, injury prone and 50/50 as to whether he will even take the mound in October.
Jimenez/Thorton is the biggest gamble with the highest upside. We could be getting a legit #1 starter making peanuts for 4 years and a stud lefty set up man, or AJ Burnett part 2 and an erratic Boone Logan clone.
Gio/DeJesus… that package only yields 1 impact player. DeJesus doesn’t do much to upgrade the offense, probably just a bat off the bench. Gio would be good, but not nearly as good outside the AL West/Oakland, yet his pricetag would be a guy that he is in OAK. By far the “worst” package for me.
If I’m giving up big prospects, give me the only sure thing of this group – Matt Kemp. As be becomes the cornerstone of the team hitting 40 bombs and playing GG defense. I’ll gamble on Bedard, expecting nothing though. So the Bedard/Kemp package.
Blake-
I think the Dodgers are handcuffed right now due to their situation. No big trades possible.
SoS –I would trade any prospect for a player like Justin Upton, probably 2
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Hey! You were killing J Up this winter when we all wanted him.
BJ Upton has a ton of talent. But haven’t we (as fans) seen enough of him to realize he doesnt turn that talent into results? Personally, I would hate to see him on the Yanks (not that he’s coming here anyway, because there’s no room for him).
Maybe Kershaw could sedate him by using horse tranquilizers ?
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MTU,
No! No! No! Youd think with all thats happened recently you would have learned from it. That would mean we would have Kemp for 50 less games. Bad idea. Time for Alex to refuel that jet.
CC-
But I’ll welcome his brother.
Bottom line is that the Yankees need a #2 starter and the only available starter that fits the description is Ubaldo. Get it done Cashman – Nova, Noesi, JR Murphy, Laird and Nunez.
MTU,
True….
I bet the Red Sox get Wandy if his price drops down far enough.
I’m going to play 9 holes of golf. When I return I expect to see King Felix sitting in the yankees dugout when I return.
MTU,
I agree…his brother is a different story.
Blake,
I dont see the Sox taking on that contract (Wandy).
spidanyc,
That’d be three major league players for one starter with questions. Why?
It would be cool if Felix Hernandez just walks across the field tonight between innings, plants his fanny right next to Freddy Garcia and refuses to leave the Yankees dugout.
That would be special.
Blake-
I only want a significant upgrade.
Not looking to add more mediocrity.
Their needs are different than ours.
Just remember folks rumors will break your heart every time.
Believe half of what you hear and none of what you read from Heyman or Incarcerated Bob.
Incarcerated Bob
He’s been pretty silent this week.
Heyman is on fire…but was it Olney who broke Cliff Lee to the Phillies in the winter?
C. Club,
His contract isn’t THAT bad…..he’s better than Lackey and the Astros would probably eat some of it. You might be right but I think they might would consider it for next year as well……and I agree wit you on BJ……he’d be tough to watch on a daily basis and Yankee fans would destroy him for some of the lack of effort stuff he does.
It was Pete.
Why is there no pitcher listed? C.C. still going tonight right?
Wandy Rodriguez shouldn’t even be brought up. His contract IS that bad.
Fantastic article:
http://www.grantland.com/story.....e-deadline
Blake,
According to Sherman, Astros have come down in their demands for players in return as long as someone takes his whole deal. Their owner wants to get payroll down to 60 mil (various sources), so I cant see them eating any of his deal.
The Yanks dont like the contact either, but if they dont have to give up anything real in return, they may change their mind.
Wandys contract is 3/34…..its not a good contract but its not John Lackey or AJ bad. I don’t want him…..I just said I wouldn’t be shocked if the Sox did because he’d be their #4 and.better than Lackey, Wakefield, and all the other fillers they’ve been throwing out there.
C club,
He said they want “most” of the contract eaten.
“Heyman is on fire…but was it Olney who broke Cliff Lee to the Phillies in the winter?”
I’m not sure who exactly, but I just remember all the news from the different writers broke within seconds of on another. Though the first report was that the Yankees were informed by the agent that they were ‘out’ of the race. Only like 10 mins later did the news break that it was the Phillies.
Boy that was a crazy night
SI_JonHeyman
#redsox, impressed by josh reddick, are strongly considering ryan spilborghs to be 4th OF. Seem off beltran.
Blake-
Pence from the Astros.
Do they want to salary dump him ? Would he be worth taking on ?
Cliff Lee to the Phillies was an insult of the highest order especially given Lee’s statements about the Yanks being to old.
Cashman has to punish that peckerhead this trade deadline.
blake July 26th, 2011 at 4:51 pm
Wandys contract is 3/34…..its not a good contract but its not John Lackey or AJ bad. I don’t want him…..I just said I wouldn’t be shocked if the Sox did because he’d be their #4 and.better than Lackey, Wakefield, and all the other fillers they’ve been throwing out there.
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It’s not Wandy’s contract I find objectionable, it’s Wandy himself. I don’t see him as a clear upgrade over anyone in the Yankee rotation.
He’s been thriving pitching for a team that stinks in the NL Central – I certainly don’t trust him enough to thrust him into the AL East in the middle of a pennant race.
MtU,
I think they’ll try to hang on to Pence for now as he’s their best player and he’s controlled through 2013. Im.sure they’d deal him if someone wanted to pay a lot…..I don’t think he’s that type of player though. Love to have him…..just not enough to convince an unmotivated seller to sell him.
Chip,
I said I didn’t want him
The lineup just got a lot longer with the return of Chavez.
blake July 26th, 2011 at 4:59 pm
Chip,
I said I didn’t want him
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Ah…cheerfully withdrawn then.
Who does Chavez replace on the 25-man roster ? Dickerson ? Laird ?
Vy,
Got the mail, but didn`t read it, it went to the spam file, sorry, nice try
FWIW, Jack Z said on the radio today that they weren’t trading Felix…….that they were going to keep him and have a chance to win 1 out of 5 games 2-1 for the next 3 years. Ok he didn’t exactly say that……but that’s what he should have said
108 stitches July 26th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Who does Chavez replace on the 25-man roster ? Dickerson ? Laird ?
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I would assume Laird.
Too bad. All of block buster trades for the two greatest GMs in baseball fantasy are off. Romine and joseph are playing tonight
108 stitches July 26th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Who does Chavez replace on the 25-man roster ? Dickerson ? Laird ?
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Laird
swbyankeesTT New post: Laird heading down http://bit.ly/p9NwM3
GreenBeret7 July 26th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
What about sanchez or Murphy??
From Rumors-R-Us :
“The price on Jimenez hasn’t dropped at all, writes ESPN’s Jayson Stark. He says the Rockies require “three sure-thing young players, including one pitcher who goes into their rotation immediately.”
Oh yes it has. Now it’s only a 3 for 1.
OK. Montero/Romine, Nova +
Erin July 26th, 2011 at 4:45 pm
Incarcerated Bob
He’s been pretty silent this week.
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Hopefully, he’s in solitary confinement.
This stuff with Ubaldo has seemed to have a lot more legs than what Towers did with Upton. If they really want to deal him then the only concerning thing is why now……his value shouldn’t drop much from now to the winter and coukd even go up if he had a good rest of the season……its a bit curious.
MTU,
They’re probably asking for Montero + Banuelos + Nova.
Luis I have been to Venezuela many times. If you live there you will be able to answer this question easily. And there is no one in Venezuela that wouldn’t know the answer.
“There was a very famous ad campaign, that was the talk of the country for a long time. What was it?”
Blake,
Why showcase Ubaldo now?
It’s simple.
The market lacks frontline starters.
The scarcity inflates the price of Ubaldo.
Bret-
That isn’t happening.
Luis,
Just post the email that Vineyard sent you so he can confirm that he sent it. At least that would shut him up.
Bret,
Yes…..but it’ll be nearly the same market this winter…..and Ubaldo isn’t having a great year so far.
You mean ” La Catira de Regional”??, Or Cigarrillos Belmont from Bigot BAT, or The Polar girls on the beach??
Luis,
How about I will send you an email and you can copy and repaste it here? I will confirm that it is the email that was sent. It should take 2 minutes of your time to clear up this crap.
Carlos pena was just traded to the yankees according to his twitter account
Blake,
The same market this winter? Perhaps.
But maybe the Rox are reading it differently.
They have a guaranteed inflated price now.
Why wait longer for merely a chance at a potentially inflated price this winter?
It’s a guaranteed inflated market for frontline starters now and the Rox don’t need Jimenez for their playoff hopes. They’re out.
No Luis. That is incorrect. This was a while ago. It motivated a huge change in how the population behaved. Last guess.
WCYF,
By the way i read your post. So you came during the mid to late 90`s. Yes security issues were rampant then but now is even worse, the fashionable crime is kidnaping now both express and profesional. Sorry to hear about your camera
LGY – Make no mistake, I wasn’t killing people for wanting Upton. I was the one arguing that no amount of prospects were going to tear him away from Arizona this year. That’s not to say I wouldn’t give up some prospects to get him, he’s awesome… but to some the cost of business and their willingness to give up players never cross paths.
Jerkface – I would imagine that the list of established major leaguers that plummet in value after a trade pales in comparison to the list of top50 prospects that have missed.
Is Fake Carlos Pena better than Jorge?
There are only to campains that i could remember like that, Renny Ottolinas campaing back in the late 70`s and his presidential campaing with the glasses. Or The Metro de Caracas campain that made people act completely diferent when they enter the subway system ( people acted very respectfuly when inside the subway)
Why are we quizzing luis on where he lives?
Bret,
It may be as you say……id just ask lots of questions before I offered the big package they are looking for.
If the Reds are able to build a package around Homer Bailey for Ubaldo, then Cashman better throw Hughes in there since they are same age/same hype except Hughes had an All Star appearance already.
Trade Hughes, Nova, Romine and some lesser guys for Ubaldo and call it a day. The Reds have already taken Chapman and their 1 prospect C off the table in talks according to the reports.
Erin July 26th, 2011 at 5:06 pm
108 stitches July 26th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
Who does Chavez replace on the 25-man roster ? Dickerson ? Laird ?
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Laird
swbyankeesTT New post: Laird heading down http://bit.ly/p9NwM3
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Thank you Erin. I had hoped to see Laird play one of the OF corners sometime soon but now it won’t happen until the September callups when rosters expand.
ID
I thought you were really concerned with his K rates. In any event, I was just messing with you.
I’m trying to help Luis clear up a misunderstanding so we can get back to baseball and end the questions about where he lives.
You have yanks4ever, Vineyard and WCYF all absorbing blog space questioning the guy. It takes 2 minutes to clear it up.
Luis, I will send you an email to the email address you claim. You copy and repaste here and I will confirm it.
You are correct Luis, it’s the “Metro de Caracas campaign.” There is no chance that anyone who didn’t live there would know that. I asked you believing you would know and that you were telling the truth – despite the lies and slander that were directed at you.
If a deal for Ubaldo can be made around Homer Bailey they the Rockies are crazy.
Bret I asked him one question and it is now cleared up. He is telling the truth.
G. Love,
I’d like to believe Cashman can get Ubaldo without Montero in that package but I doubt it.
Will you guys leave luis alone? He’s done nothing wrong in here. He doesn’t have to do anything to prove anything to anyone. Chad vouched for him in here a few days ago. It’s a dead issue. Stop wasting space on it.
Bret no spams pleas or i will not open it,ok??
please
WCYF,
Makes sense.
blake,
I’m betting the top 2 would be Homer Bailey and that Alonso kid they all hate in Cincy for some reason.
The Yankees can beat that in their sleep if they want the pitcher.
Brett did you send me something from the University of Phoenix??
Boy it’s nice to have chavez back
GLove, it’s hardly that easy. You have been on Hughes’ back for a long time – so if you feel that way, why wouldn’t the Rockies? Nevermind that he’s a HR pitcher and would not do well in that park. These trade proposals where we get rid of some of our lesser lights in exchange for a top players are silly………
Luis,
No I haven’t sent an email. I didn’t realize Chad cleared your name yesterday. My apologies.
G. Love July 26th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Will you guys leave luis alone? He’s done nothing wrong in here. He doesn’t have to do anything to prove anything to anyone. Chad vouched for him in here a few days ago. It’s a dead issue. Stop wasting space on it.
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I asked him because I know he is telling the truth and I wanted him to prove it conclusively as he was still being questioned. I resent anyone being accused of anything falsely.
luis,
I was born in Venezuela but came to the states at a real young age, dont know much about it. Went to visit for a week about 10 years ago. All I can say is Caracas has some nice clubs if you know what im saying. Still have some family their though.
Yes, he did, but the blogger that accused kept slandering me
Betsy July 26th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
“GLove, it’s hardly that easy. You have been on Hughes’ back for a long time.”
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LMAO! The funniest post ever on LoHud! Damn my side hurts.
If the Rox want a fronline young pitching prospect, i.e. Betances or Banuelos, then they don’t get Montero too.
If they want the arm then they get Romine instead.
Romine, Betances, Nova.
Or
Montero, Nova + if they want Jesus.
That should get it. If not, tough.
man all this love for eric chavez. you think this was 2003 or soemthing and not 2011 with a guy who can get hurt eating dinner.
he is a nice player off the bench if he can stay healthy that is about it…
Only 2 games behind a real good rs team with no big offseason moves,except the one cashman got overruled of,wich hasn’t helped us win 1 game yet anyhow.
I would not give up any good prospect at all,even romine unless i am getting over on another team,not the other way round.
It also doesn’t matter if the pitchers names don’t sound pretty,as long as the results are there.
Lets get arod back,cashman should just play it cool,keep the kids unlrss something makes sense.
Here’s hoping that Eric “Nick Johnson Lite” Chavez can stay healthy the entire game.
i pass on ubaldo and go all out for king felix. king felix is worth giving up a ton of talent, ubaldo has many question marks.
alos the comedy over kuroda is laughable. the yanks would have to give up what for Him? he is not very good and is 35 + years old. I give them almost nothing for Kuroda, not sure he would even be in the rotation.
SoS July 26th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
wow, guess your family came with the oil companies. Yeah I know what you mean. It`s still a beautyful country but The past twelve years has been a nightmare
I’ve been on Hughes’ back? Me? Okay Betsy.
What is it this week? You like Phil or you hate him? Which way is the wind blowing over there? I guess it’s you like him again.
I brought him up because there was a report that the Reds were using Homer Bailey to get Ubaldo and I felt Hughes was a step up from Bailey. It was actually a compliment to his status in the game at this point.
And yes, I’d rather have a 27yo Ubaldo than a 25 yo Hughes.
G. Love,
I agree…..and.if that’s the price then they should. Bailey is always hurt and kinda sucks.
Well guys, have to go. Thank you all. i just want this incident to be over. back to baseball guys
Melk Man July 26th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Bedard is a huge gamble – bad clubhouse guy, injury prone and 50/50 as to whether he will even take the mound in October.
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I know I’m a guest here (and I really try to be a good one) but sometimes I feel like quite the ‘wall-flower’ … as I have addressed this “assumption” more than once.
Granted, I’m not actually in the clubhouse, but I have never once heard it reported that any of Erik’s teammates, coaches or managers have a problem with his character. In fact, quite the opposite has been reported – he is respected and admired for his attitude an work ethic. The only “group” that had problems with Erik early on in his tenure with Seattle was the media. The rode him hard for his rather ‘curt’ responses in pressers and post game interviews. But, once they got the gist of his dry sense of humor, and the fact that he doesn’t like to talk about himself much, they let it be.
Now, as for the injury concern… I’m right there with ya.
GLove, give me a break – you missed the point. I happen to agree with you about Phil……MY POINT was that if you see those things in Phil, why on earth would the Rockies want him? Would you care to explain why the Rockies would want him?
That’s fantastic that you would prefer Jimenez over Hughes – so would 99.99 % of Yankee fans…………but while Jimenez might eventually come here, it’s not going to be for Hughes.
Wasnt Homer and Hughes ranked one and two in baseball for pitching prospects a few years ago?
Any truth to the Carlos Pena post?
Way to completely misread my post, though – what’s next? Igawa for Jimenez?
The Yankees aren’t going to make any MAJOR deals at the trade deadline. They have the Wildcard wrapped up and aren’t going to throw good money after bad to try to catch Boston for 1st place in the AL East.
The only type of deal they might make would be for a second LOOGY and they aren’t going to give up much to get him.
Fantasizing about trades: How many would do: Montero, Betances, Nova, and Gardner for King Felix?
Why is that dead beat Posada hitting in front of Chavez?
In fact why is he even in the lineup, Nunez is hitting 50 points higher, & adds speed & a more dynamic offensive threat than that shot 40 yr. old S.O. & G.I.D.P. machine.
I’m a firm believer that the Yankees have all the pieces they need to field a World Series winning team. The pieces just need to play better.