HOPE Week continues with Tuesday’s Children
Here’s the Yankees latest release about today’s HOPE Week event.
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The New York Yankees are proud to continue HOPE Week 2011 (Helping Others Persevere & Excel) on Tuesday by celebrating the Tuesday’s Children Mentoring program.
Yankees players Mariano Rivera, Curtis Granderson, Phil Hughes, Cory Wade and Steve Garrison along with former Yankees Manager Joe Torre will honor Tuesday’s Children by surprising them at the Beekman Beach Club at the South Street Seaport for lunch, games, and a ride on the Delta Baseball Water Taxi. The boat ride will take mentors and mentees past the Statue of Liberty and on to Yankee Stadium, where they will be the Yankees’ special guests for their 7:05 p.m. game vs. Seattle.
THE STORY OF TUESDAY’S CHILDREN
During the tragic day of Sept. 11, 2001, thousands of children lost their parents and thousands of parents lost their children. As the 10-year anniversary of that dark day approaches, the voids created from the losses continue to be immeasurable.
Tuesday’s Children was founded in the year following the terrorist attacks to promote healing and recovery. The organization established a unique mentoring program that has helped to heal still-open wounds. Serving the greater New York tri-state region, its mentorship program supports relationships between affected children and adult role models who themselves have lost family as a result of tragic circumstances. To date, more than 175 children have participated in the program, including 50 who are currently part of active mentoring relationships.
The relationships support the emotional and social growth of the mentees as their mentors share coping skills and act as a shoulder to lean on. The pairs meet at least twice a month, and the get-togethers are informal, involving anything from going to the movies, playing at a park or just hanging out in the house.
For the mentors, the pain of losing a family member did nothing to dry up the reservoir of love in their hearts.
MENTOR OF THE YEAR PRESENTATION: During the beach party on Tuesday, Keith Pryde [R] from Middletown, N.Y., will be honored as Tuesday’s Children’s “Mentor of the Year.” He was matched with 10-year-old Robert in February 2008. One year earlier, Keith lost his sister in the April 2007 Virginia Tech campus shootings. His mentee, Robert, was born a month before his father, a foreign exchange broker at Cantor Fitzgerald, was killed on Sept. 11. Keith and his fiancée, Rebecca, are engaged to be married in September 2012, with Robert set to serve as their ring bearer.





Cardinals asking for “a TON” for Colby Rasmus:
An AL official said, “They are denying publicly they will trade him, but they are definitely shopping him. They are asking for a ton.”
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z1TEBx7cNm
Very cool.
obviously Jeter must be feeling very good at the plate because when he hits Home Runs to RF, that is a positive sign.
could be something similar with Tex. last night he did more damage by hitting the ball hard to the left side(from the right side).
are two of our top stars heating up at the same time??
Another great story and job by the Yankees. Nice to see Torre getting involved as well……no organization in sports does this stuff better than the Yankees do.
I wouldn’t give a ton for Rasmus…..depends on how huge is defined.
It really gets old to hear these so called rumors of young cost controlled guys being available but only if these teams get back the sun, moon and stars.
Who would GM Kenny Williams of the White Sox want in return for LHP’s John Danks and Matt Thornton ?
JoeandEvan Brett Gardner live in studio
108,
Probably Montero and Betances/Banuelos plus another player …..
It would be funny if Cashman leaked out that he’d consider trading Gardner if he was “overwhelmed “
Erick Bedard – LHP in play:
Bedard is 32, on a one-year contract and has been effective when healthy this season (3.00 ERA, 1.11 WHIP, 85 strikeouts, 26 walks in 90 innings).
With the deadline Sunday at 4:00 p.m. ET, Bedard’s start coming Friday, several contending teams looking for starting pitching, a lack of quality starting pitchers readily available and the Mariners obviously in selling mode, Bedard coming off the disabled list couldn’t come at a much better time for all parties involved. As long as he gets through the start healthy, expect to hear his name in rumors this coming weekend.
http://www.cbssports.com/mcc/b.....2/30874176
I don’t get the love for John Danks that so many people have for him on here. He is a decent pitcher but thats it. He is a number 3 guy imo
This sounds awesome.
And I always wanted to take a boat to the stadium. There used to be a small ferry but I think it got cut. It was called The Yankee Clipper.
Another great success story. Thank you, NY Yankees and Jason Zillo.
i noticed the HOPE WEEK shirts people were wearing while watching the game last night.
does anybody know if those are for sale?
website info?
108-
Here’s what I’d offer for them.
Romine, Nova, Phelps/Warren/ or Mitchell, Adams/Joseph, +
5 for 2.
3 for Danks, 2 for Thornton.
Because Danks has like 3 straight years of 200 IP and sub 4 era……that’s extremely valuable to a good team like the Yankees because that equals 15 plus wins in most cases. Danks isn’t a #1 but he’s a very solid #2/3 type pitcher.
Bucket of balls for “Broken glass” Bedard ?
108 stitches July 26th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
I think he probably would want Hughes & a player like Nova or Noesi.
Blake-
And he’s a lefty too.
The Rockies “recently held a two-hour internal conference call to go over the trade alternatives” for Jimenez, writes SI’s Jon Heyman.
I’d much rather Danks than Kuroda or Bedard
russellmartin55 Love this guy! Daniel Trush of Daniel’s Music Foundation throws out the first pitch #HopeWeek http://atmlb.com/pzvucK
Bronx Jeers July 26th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
This sounds awesome.
And I always wanted to take a boat to the stadium. There used to be a small ferry but I think it got cut. It was called The Yankee Clipper.
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The Yankee Clipper is one of my favorite rides at Six Flags.
Yankees getting calls:
New York Yankees: It’s the usual suspects with the Yankees, with everyone still interested in Jesus Montero’s bat. He’s not alone, though, with the Yankees getting inquiries on fellow catcher Austin Romine, lefty Manny Banuelos and right-hander Dellin Betances as well.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....8;c_id=mlb
Not to open a can of worms but….RAB on Derek Jeter since the ASB….
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....eup-53060/
On another note, LOVE Hope Week!
LHP Danks would be awesome in Yankee Stadium. MTU may be right if Romine was added to the mix.
MTU,
You never know.what Kenny Williams will do…
If the Rangers add Beltran then that lineup would be ridiculous and considering if the playoffs started today that’s who the Yanks would play…..Im not wild about them getting him especially if its for a package of B guys the Yanks could have easily matched.
blake July 26th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
108,
Probably Montero and Betances/Banuelos plus another player …..
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I’d offer Romine, Betances, and either 2nd baseman Adams or Joseph. No more.
WTP-I was wondering the same thing about HOPE week T-shirts. I’ll look when I get home tonight, and I’ll let you know if I find anything.
Off hand does anyone have Danks numbers against the Red Sox?
The fact that Romine’s name is lumped in with the big 3 shows that either the Yankees value him that highly (and as a result, probably feel Montero can’t catch) or want people to value him that highly so that teams ask for him rather than the guy they want to keep (Montero).
108,
Id consider that deal….id try to keep Betances out but you gotta give to get. That trade would significantly affect the Yanks WS chances IMO.
Hi everyone,
Lunch brake, what has happened on the trading mill??
“Off hand does anyone have Danks numbers against the Red Sox?”
4.14 ERA in 7 starts, 3.32 ERA in Fenway in 4 starts
I think the WS could really use a catcher.
Pierzinski isn’t a spring chicken.
MTU,
Don`t you think that three for one is way expensive for Danks?
“The fact that Romine’s name is lumped in with the big 3 shows that either the Yankees value him that highly (and as a result, probably feel Montero can’t catch) or want people to value him that highly so that teams ask for him rather than the guy they want to keep (Monter”
I think its the latter…..I think they are trying to pump up his value……no reason not to….
Danks is like Ricky Romero – relies on his CH and as a result, has an inverse split. Lefties have a career 1.59 WHIP against him.
Still a good pitcher though
Erin-
Thanks for the help. I appreciate it
blake July 26th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Spot on
Luis-
No. I don’t. Danks is left-handed and is a solid #3. Possibly a 2.
We have redundancy at Pitcher and Catcher.
We can afford to make that trade if we want to.
The Yankee Clipper is one of my favorite rides at Six Flags.
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I’d probably try to entertain everybody on line with my Bob Sheppard impersonation.
“Ladies and gentleman……Welcome .. To the Yankee …Clipper”
Other GMs are calling for Jesus Montero? Don’t they know he’s an underachieving headcase who can’t catch?
Bronx Jeers-
I’ll have to remember that the next time I go.
MTU July 26th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
Thank you, good point.
don’t worry too much about potential pitchers numbers vs. Boston.
AJ Burnett had great numbers against Boston.
How has that translated since coming to the Yankees?
Luis-
You’re welcome. It’s just my take. Some here go much more by the numbers than I do.
My preference is that the Yankees aim as high as they can in what they do.
If they can’t make a solid trade I’d rather they stick with what they have, or just do a few tweaks.
I don’t want to see them adding mediocrity for our good prospects.
Anyone find out why Romine did not play in the last 2 games?
Are people interested in Jeter’s splits in July?
Another great story on an organization few have heard of that has made a difference in peoples lives.
Very Pollyannaish of me but how nice would it be for every media outlet to do one less story a week on someone/something negative and replaced it with a story on someone trying to make a positive difference.
BryanHoch Remarkable. A foul ball hit by Derek Jeter before his 3,000th hit is fetching $10,000+ at auction. http://bit.ly/qYXtbT
“Are people interested in Jeter’s splits in July?”
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.324/.385/.521? Looks good to me!
Or are you talking about lefty righty splits?
G-C,
Lefty-Righty
Romine is solid. He is a legitimate starting catcher prospect that can hit above league average & has power. Most any team would love to have him. Catcher is a need for CWS. They have a ton of SP including some good prospects in miLB including 22 yr old LHP prospect Chris Sale.
I believe Danks is available. BTW, CWS does have a catching prospect around the 60 rank.
“G-C,
Lefty-Righty”
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Hm. My guess would still be (especially because of the homers off of Price and Vargas) that he’s OPSing near 1.000 against lefties and still hasn’t made much headway against righties.
Correct?
BryanHoch Remarkable. A foul ball hit by Derek Jeter before his 3,000th hit is fetching $10,000+ at auction. http://bit.ly/qYXtbT
Just one woman’s opinion but……more ridiculous than remarkable. Some people should really find better things to do wih their money.
If the White Sox would do Hughes, Romine, and either Adams / Joseph for Danks and Thornton, I’d have to consider it.
MTU July 26th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Yes, agreed. My concern is that the team is getting old, eventually they will have to be replaced. I don`t think is the moment to be overly agresive on the trade front IMO, because even if we keep the really good ones they are prospects ( uncertainty ), so you need quantity too. But as the post i linked two or three days a go, the FO in general has done a good job of keeping the really good ones.
Ray-
Who knows, but the Yankees brass, who is valued more highly Romine, or Montero ?
Most would definitely say Montero but that is premised on the idea that Montero sticks at Catcher.
Will he ? Do the Yankees really think so ?
I sometimes wonder.
G-C,
I was interested in taking a look a his splits because of how much better his numbers are overall this month, so I was just wondering if anyone else wanted to know.
These are his splits in games started by a RH or LH pitcher. The stats include subsequent PAs/ABs from potentially opposite hand relievers. So just keep that in mind.
RHP: .266/.347/.377
LHP: .384/.448/.730
Jeter’s OPS is like .923 or something for the year vs LHP. He mashes them….sinking fastballs from righties are what’s given him fits over the last two years…..lately he’s been more selective and has been starting earlier to get to those inside pitches and pulling them…..hitting them out front before the sink eats him up.
108-
Never happen IMO. Not enough.
SoS July 26th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
No, but it`s curious that Romine, J R Murphy and Sanchez didn`t played last night…..Trade winds???, or a especial catching clinic??
108,
Yea but Hughes is in arbitration now…..I don’t think they’d want him …..if they are dealing Danks they probably are gonna want cost controlled players…..just my guess.
Luis-
I’m not in the least bit concerned. They’ll do what they think is best.
pat-I agree with you. I do wish I had that kind of money to throw around though. But very doubtful I’d spend it on a foul ball.
MTU July 26th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
I think what they value from Montero is that they have an impact bat on their hands regardless of position. off course being a catcher adds to it.
Hughes has me so concerned right now. The guy can not put away hitters as a starting pitcher with a fastball around 91 MPH. Its so frustrating to see him take the mound and have to battle each and every hitter to get that out or 3rd strike.
IMO, he needs to throw the change-up a lot more. That pitch right there could be a strikeout pitch. I’m sure Phil has his reasons why he prefers NOT to throw that pitch much at all.
If you ask me, I think Phil would be much more valuable to this 2011 team in the pen. The guy who can throw 1 or 2 innings, get the fastball up to 95+ and be dominating.
Not that Hughes isn’t controlled…..I just mean like the 6 or 7 years you get with minor.leaguers.
MTU July 26th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
I think the Yankees clearly think Montero is their #1 prospect bar none. I saw the way the worked with him in ST in Tampa a couple of years ago & they are in awe of him. BTW, he is heating up now after blasting 2 doubles 2 nights ago & a HR last night. I think I read he has hit 4 HRs in last 2 weeks. He is an incredible talent. He looks unreal in person & is very agile albeit huge. He is a decent catcher with a very good arm too boot.
Believe it or not, but Austin Romine is a highly regarded catching prospect outside the NYC fishbowl….Remember he did play in the futures game as well
I wonder how Hughes would do in arbitration. He’s already missed half a season
have to go, Thanks everyone. good chat
Luis-
If Montero can’t stick at Catcher where do they play him ?
They have a 1st baseman, and I doubt they would make Montero a full-time DH even IF the spot were available.
His real value to the Yankees is as a Catcher IMO.
Pat M,
Yea Romine is a good prospect ……I do think the Yanks are putting the untouchable label on him.for a reason though…..to up his value.
You hearing any gossip from your golfing buddies? If not how.about from the pool girls?
Believe it or not, but Austin Romine is a highly regarded catching prospect outside the NYC fishbowl….Remember he did play in the futures game as well
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Hopefully he can fetch them something really good in a trade!
MTU,
If he develops into the hitter that people think he could then his.position will be hitter and that’s very valuable
Anyone think Romine, Nova, and Dellin could get Rasmus?
Oh jeez… I think proposing a trade is the first sign of LoHud-itis!!
This trade deadline so far hasn’t packed the same punch as last years deadline. I guess the hysteria hasn’t peaked yet.
I was checking out the archives from a year ago recently. Interesting stuff. Lots of blog-gems.
Ready, set, go
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MTU,
If you ask me, i don`t think Montero will stick long term in the position. I would break him, as catcher to start and then when tex contract expires move him to first. By then sanchez; murphy or Romine will take over.
Romine being lumped in with ‘the big 3′ is great in my estimation, I’d love to trade him instead of Montero.
Ray-
Is that the company line, or the reality of their position ?
I’ve seen some of the same things as you in regards to his catching. I’ve seen the flaws too.
I do not doubt the bat. I’m talking only about him sticking at Catcher and it’s implications if he can’t.
I have my doubts. If that’s the truth i expect Jesus to up Catching right after the TD passes.
I hope that’s the case. Would love to see him.
Shame Spencer July 26th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
That is too much for the Yanks to pay for Rasmus even if they had a deal for Gardner or Swish to bring in a quality arm.
later
my question is if people arent willing to have montero be a full time DH then why do people on here want prince fielder to do the same… I know montero isnt Prince but for their cost and potential id love to see the yanks give the kid atleast a season to see what he can do.
What the hell happened to the Hot Stove. Did every gm press the snooze button this year? Cant remember any year being this dead in the trade front.
MTU July 26th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
108-
Here’s what I’d offer for them.
Romine, Nova, Phelps/Warren/ or Mitchell, Adams/Joseph, +
5 for 2.
3 for Danks, 2 for Thornton.
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Just can’t see the Yankees committing $10 mil to two LHRP next year ($5.5 for Thornton & $4.5 for Feliciano) throw in Soriano and Rivera and that’s $36 mil for 4 relief pitchers.
Luis-
I don’t see that happening.
Blake-
I don’t buy that. If the Yankees really don’t believe Montero can catch I think he’s gone in a
trade.
That’s my take. It’s fine with me if I’m a reverse barometer.
I do think it’s in the Yankees best interest to deal one of Montero or Romine this deadline. The Yankees are still packing good catching prospects in the lower levels and I think Russell Martin is here for the foreseeable future.
It’s an area of depth and strength and the team should sell as high as they can to improve this club’s chances in the post season and beyond.
I’d rather them keep Montero because I’m very intrigued by the bat. I think it’s fairly easy to pair up Montero with Martin and then give Montero DH at bats and the occasional 1b start as they begin to teach him that position.
That said, if Cashman is trying to land a big fish I think Montero will be the bait. I don’t think you can honestly sell Romine as a better prospect to an opposing GM than Montero considering every rating system around still covets Montero.
It’s gonna be interesting to see what happens this week. I think the Rockies are too far along in the Ubaldo rumors to back out now. If they back out and he goes and has a poor 2nd half, they’ll have lost a ton of trade value that is currently at it’s highest point.
I think he’s getting dealt. They’ve gone too far without shutting down the rumors completely and considering his last start wasn’t a great one, they are running the risk of devaluing the player if they keep him.
blake…..The only thing I’ve heard is that The Yanks and The Dodgers have picked up conversations again from where they left off in the winter…..Also Montero is still out there as bait to spur dialog …Kind of like a piece of cheese on a string
SoS July 26th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
What the hell happened to the Hot Stove. Did every gm press the snooze button this year? Cant remember any year being this dead in the trade front.
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Technically the “hot stove” references baseball moves made in the winter…but I get your point.
There are a few reasons for the quiet trade front:
1. Parity – there aren’t that many teams who are completely out of it and the ones that are don’t have a ton of assets that other teams are interested in.
2. The teams that are out of it that have good players are looking at the way the league is trending and realizing that they could well compete next year and so they’re not as eager to trade away their good players.
3. With the scarcity of quality players hitting the FA market the big teams (Yankees, Red Sox, Angels, etc) are hoarding their top prospects to try and build from within
“get 2 FREE tix for tonight’s Yanks game.”
sounds good, but I’d prefer a $10k Derek Jeter foul ball.
jonmorosi
For what it’s worth: #Rockies among teams bearing down on #RedSox farm system.
Bronx Jeers July 26th, 2011 at 12:56 pm
This trade deadline so far hasn’t packed the same punch as last years deadline. I guess the hysteria hasn’t peaked yet.
I was checking out the archives from a year ago recently. Interesting stuff. Lots of blog-gems.
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The lack of trades are due to teams asking for multiple players in returns for one player.
So many teams want to be “overwhelmed” by an offer and if not, then no trade will be made.
A lot of teams are asking for far too much in return for a player.
This could be the year when not very many trades are made because the price is so darn high.
Pat M.- Hi there.
Wasn’t it Matt Kemp who they were discussing?
I’m expecting a flurry of activity as the TD approaches.
I’m all for dealing Austin Romine if Cashman can get his value high enough.
I agree with G. Martin’s going to be here for at least the next year and probably a year after that as well. Montero, at some point, has to make it to the majors – so that’s your catching tandem with Cervelli as an emergency option.
By the time Martin’s ready to move on and the Yankees are fed up with Montero behind the dish, the next crop of catchers will be ready – JR Murphy, Gary Sanchez, Kyle Higashoka and if they aren’t – well you burn that bridge when you come to it.
hardwired7 July 26th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
?get 2 FREE tix for tonight’s Yanks game.?
sounds good, but I?d prefer a $10k Derek Jeter foul ball.
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Seattle might get a win on Thurs, damn!
jonmorosi
For what it?s worth: #Rockies among teams bearing down on #RedSox farm system.
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Thought the Sox emptied their system for A-Gon.
Does Peter Gammons work for the Rockies?
Joe from Long Island July 26th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
Pat M.- Hi there.
Wasn’t it Matt Kemp who they were discussing?
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I would be floored if the Dodgers traded Matt Kemp. I just can’t see MLB letting them move Kemp, Eithier or Kershaw – those are the only players who would appeal to a potential buyer.
Some thoughts from Doug Fister…
http://tinyurl.com/3ruzaa3
“It’s a different kind of city, different atmosphere here. I come from a real small town, so it’s a lot different for me, but I’ve been here a few times and am getting more used to it. I have not pitched here before, though,” Fister said. “I’ve always wanted to pitch here more than anywhere, just because of the name and history and the team in the other clubhouse. It’s always a challenge, one of those things you always dreamed of as a kid, pitching in Yankee Stadium.
“But when it all comes down to it, it’s the same game we grew up watching and playing. Once you step on the field, the atmosphere and hitters and everything else becomes the same, and it’s just me and the catcher, and I’ve got to just pitch.”
Dealing with a lack of run support the entire season, Fister has received nine runs in 11 losses, but 19 runs in his three wins. Such numbers have given him the title of having the lowest run support in the American League, at 2.01 runs per start.
By the way, more than noticing that Romine was included with the big three I was interested to see who was dropped out of it – Andrew Brackman. I would say he’s the most likely prospect to be moved at the deadline.
MTU July 26th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
Jesus Montero is only 21. (22 in NOV) He has improved every year defensively & his arm is very good & his throw times to second are MLB caliber now. His best tool is his power, but he hits shots on a line and really is a line drive hitter now with some HR shots that folks stop breathing and gawk at. I have seen him in BP several times at Tampa (back field) hitting rockets, one after another with little effort. The Yanks would truly be crazy trading him. He will play Catcher IMO and play it well. He is a monster. IMO, he & Bryce Harper are 1/2 or 2/1 in all of baseball and my edge would be Montero because he plays Catcher. Also, if you for some reason you don’t believe he is a catcher he lines up the same way as a 1B. The only reason he is rated lower is a tendency to bias NY prospects by the press. And they can’t watch him w/o dropping their jaws.
Romine is nice. Probably a .285 ± .015 with 20 HR capability with very good defensive skills. He & Montero on the same team would be ideal as they could both spell each other w/ Montero getting time at 1B & DH & Romine as a corner INF/OF skills. Together they would be awesome in NY for quite a while.
Whenever Kemp is brought up I salivate… for a couple of reasons. Boy, he’d look good standing next to Robbie. Who wouldn’t?
Doc Joe….I never did get a clear handle as to what exactly the talks were about other than Cashman was inquiring about a pitcher…..LA was listening to clubs about Kemp hoping to snag him before his coming out season……This guy is really good
Chip July 26th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
You may be right, but I think they will. Thornton is special. Also note Marte goes off the books next year.
Chip,
Good points. It still sucks though.
With all this parity, teams signing their free young players to long term contracts. I cant see how a team can be dominant for a decade. Low draft picks + all the top players locked up + low draft picks = a fall from the top. This has to be a concern for the Yanks and sox. Maybe these trade deadlines are going to be similiar to the NHLs. A moot point.
Question I know I’m going to regret asking:
With the struggles of Hughes and the emergence of Robertson would anyone be in favor of this:
Move Hughes to the pen
Rehab Joba as a starter
After 2012 have a bullpen of:
Hughes & Robertson setting up Soriano
Ray-
I hope you, GB, and others are absolutely correct. I’m going Missouri mode on that right now “show me”.
IMO we should know very soon.
Like I said, I do not doubt the stick.
RayVT July 26th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Chip July 26th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
You may be right, but I think they will. Thornton is special. Also note Marte goes off the books next year.
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Yeah but they brought in Feliciano because they assumed Marte wasn’t going to pitch this year. If he did it would be gravy but they were prepared to accept his contract as lost. With Feliciano I think they fully expect him to be back in the mix next season.
RayVT…..Do you see Montero being called up if he isn’t traded ????
Phil’s problem seems to be getting that elusive 3rd strike, so I don’t think putting him in the pen is the answer at this point. And I would rather have D-rob as Mo’s heir than keep Sori around.
Shame Spencer July 26th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
Whenever Kemp is brought up I salivate? for a couple of reasons. Boy, he?d look good standing next to Robbie. Who wouldn?t?
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Andrew Brackman. I would say he’s the most likely prospect to be moved at the deadline.
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I’d love them to dump Andrew, as he was the Killer B most likely to be dealt simply due to lack of Betances/Banuelos upside, but who would take him? He really tanked this year. Very disappointing after it appeared he had turned a corner.
SoS July 26th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Chip,
Good points. It still sucks though.
With all this parity, teams signing their free young players to long term contracts. I cant see how a team can be dominant for a decade. Low draft picks + all the top players locked up + low draft picks = a fall from the top. This has to be a concern for the Yanks and sox. Maybe these trade deadlines are going to be similiar to the NHLs. A moot point.
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To achieve long term dominance you have to be really good at developing talent, flex your muscles in the international market and make the right calls on the few top free agents who do hit the market.
This past year for example wasn’t devoid of talent – it just had a few top flight guys (Lee, Crawford, Werth) and then a bunch of guys well behind them.
Next year there will be talent available: Prince, Pujols, Reyes, Sabathia, Wilson – it’s just a case of making the right calls and getting them signed.
Jerkface July 26th, 2011 at 1:17 pm
Andrew Brackman. I would say he’s the most likely prospect to be moved at the deadline.
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I’d love them to dump Andrew, as he was the Killer B most likely to be dealt simply due to lack of Betances/Banuelos upside, but who would take him? He really tanked this year. Very disappointing after it appeared he had turned a corner.
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He’s got fantastic stuff – I’m sure there are plenty of GMs who believe they have a pitching coach who can get him righted.
Pat M.-
Do you think Montero will be traded ?
MTU & Pat M. July 26th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
I expected him to be up on day 1. The only reason I can see that he hasn’t been is based on his youthfulness and the idea of such a young star being in NY City w/o maybe the maturity needed to understand such a metropolis. I truly expect him up any day now and definitely before Sept 1.
I wouldn’t trade Brackman.
His value is in the garbage.
Pat M. – thanks for the followup. I guess this is Cash’s way of working, keeping things quiet, minimize the distractions. Maybe we’ll find out by the weekend.
Chip July 26th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Question I know I?m going to regret asking:
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Chip,
Is this in line with the (familiar) thinking that Hughes would be better in relief, because he could go “all out” rather than trying to preserve himself to go the distance as a SP?
I can’t agree with your thinking here either way. First, there’s no guarantee Joba comes back healthy. We’ve already seen that this team views him as a reliever. Hughes has shown he can pitch in the pen…but he’s also shown he can pitch in the rotation. I haven’t seen enough, good or bad, to think Hughes to the pen/Joba to the rotation is a good idea.
And if Robertson continues to improve, there’s no reason he can’t take over closing duties should Mo ever decide to hang em up
Chip July 26th, 2011 at 1:15 pm
If the Yanks feel Thornton is a difference maker in the pen against RSox I believe he will be in pinstripes very soon! Money is just that for 2011. Besides if they get Feliciano back next year they could trade one & get their money’s worth still.
First, there’s no guarantee Joba comes back healthy.
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Tommy John has like a 99% recovery rate
Hughes has shown he can pitch in the pen…but he’s also shown he can pitch in the rotation. I haven’t seen enough, good or bad, to think Hughes to the pen/Joba to the rotation is a good idea.
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Joba has shown he can pitch in the rotation, and in the pen.
Brackman should have stayed in the bullpen after his breakout 2010 season….Bad move by the Yanks…….MTU, as for Montero being moved, I can see it happening only if he fetches a younger type top-end starter….The key is how much more would Cashman be willing to send with him ???? My question is, who is this youngish top end starter ???
If the Dodgers don’t think they can sign Kemp long term then now is a perfect time to trade him……they aren’t in contention, he’s having an MVP level season, and his value will never be higher. They could get a fortune for him now……if they wait until next summer and then decide to trade him then he’s rental and the return is much less.
MTU,
We don’t know whether they think he can really catch or not…….but they need young hitters regardless of where they play.
So whats the difference between Hughes and Joba? Joba managed to pitch all of 2009 without dying, his problem was continuing to recover from his shoulder strain/injury/tendonitis/whatever you wanna call it. Before that he was a legit ace starter and he still threw 90-95 which puts him leagues above many RHP and equal to many of the rest including Hughes. Except Joba has 3 legit secondary pitches.
Starter > reliever in value. The Yankees gave up too soon. They were too worried about trying to carry Hughes AND Joba in the rotation in 2010 I think, so they decided to dump Joba into the pen for thinly rationalized reasons that went against what they said the offseason before.
Hammond works for the Red Sox
Tommy John has like a 99% recovery rate
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Yea, but it’s not like its a simple surgery to remove an appendix. I get what you’re saying, but we still don’t know when he’s coming back, and if he’ll be better or worse. But yes, odds are his TJ will go swimmingly
It is mistake to think the Sox don’t have trade chips. If the Yankees had a young OF playing like Reddick or s AAA catcher hitting like Lavernway we would all be saying they were untouchable.
Andruw is 7 ft tall and throws 100 MPH with a potential plus plus curveball. He has plenty of value
Yea, but it’s not like its a simple surgery to remove an appendix. I get what you’re saying, but we still don’t know when he’s coming back, and if he’ll be better or worse. But yes, odds are his TJ will go swimmingly
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Tommy John is pretty simple for baseball players. Find me all the guys who were ruined by Tommy John? what I expect he will be back within 12 to 18 months, with a slight loss of control to begin with until he finds himself. And then he will be like always has been.
Just because I had it up to answer S.O.S.’s question – here’s my 2012 All FA team:
ss – Jose Reyes
LF – Johnny Damon
RF – Carlos Beltran
1b – Albert Pujols
DH – Prince Fielder
CF – Grady Sizemore
C – Chris Snyder
3B – Edwin Encarnacion
2b – Kelly Johnson
Bench: Pudge Rodriguez, Orlando Cabrera, Juan Pierre, Lance Berkman
Rotation:
CC
Chris Carpenter
CJ Wilson
Roy Oswalt
Mark Buerhle
Pen:
RHP: Papelbon, Heath Bell, Jonathon Broxton, Matt Capps, Rich Harden
LHP: Jeff Francis, George Sherrill
“Andruw is 7 ft tall and throws 100 MPH with a potential plus plus curveball. He has plenty of value”
Right now he’s a 7 ft 25 year old that throws about 91 and can’t throw a strike.
Andruw is 7 ft tall and throws 100 MPH
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Not lately. But if he is so valuable the Yankees ought to trade him. He is burning a hole in the 40 man and will be out of options after next year I think.
Pat M.-
I guess Ubaldo is someone to use as an example ?
No idea What Cashman might include along with Montero for him. Probably would require at least on of the B’s. I would certainly do Montero, Nova, +
He’s the only one that has been somewhat obvious.
There may be other talks going on behind the scenes ?
I have no idea about that. You more than me.
That is why I usually ask you. You seem to have your fingertips on more than most.
Thanks for the response. Appreciate it.
Tommy John has like a 99% recovery rate
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Hopefully, for both Joba and Aardsma, that recovery rate holds true.
On a related note, I heard Tommy John interviewed on a local sports radio show this morning – quite an interesting character….
Blake-
Yes. We can use the hitting but where is he gonna play ?
Is he your DH ? What about A-Rod, etc. down the road ?
Has he ever even played a single game at 1st ?
My question is, who is this youngish top end starter ???
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Pat,
Kershaw. But I cant see the Dodgers giving him up even for a hershal walker deal.
Pat. Speaking of farm. Im going to the Elsinore Storm game tomorrow. Not sure if youv ever been to one. I just went for the first time about a month ago and had a blast. It was the first time iv gone to a minor league game since watching Griffey jr. in A ball. I had seats behind the backstop and it seemed more family friendly. They were in last place when I went and now have climbed to first. Good stuff. Wish it was a Yankee farm team to root for.
So whats the difference between Hughes and Joba? Joba managed to pitch all of 2009 without dying, his problem was continuing to recover from his shoulder strain/injury/tendonitis/whatever you wanna call it. Before that he was a legit ace starter and he still threw 90-95 which puts him leagues above many RHP and equal to many of the rest including Hughes. Except Joba has 3 legit secondary pitches.
Starter > reliever in value. The Yankees gave up too soon. They were too worried about trying to carry Hughes AND Joba in the rotation in 2010 I think, so they decided to dump Joba into the pen for thinly rationalized reasons that went against what they said the offseason before.
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I’ve actually agreed 100% with this. Actually 99% since I think its slightly hyberbolic to refer to Joba as an ace
On a related note, I heard Tommy John interviewed on a local sports radio show this morning – quite an interesting character….
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Tommy John wears Yankee Blue!
New one ==>
Not exactly a stellar free agent class is it?
It’ll be even worse when CC doesn’t opt out
Tommy John is pretty simple for baseball players. Find me all the guys who were ruined by Tommy John? what I expect he will be back within 12 to 18 months, with a slight loss of control to begin with until he finds himself. And then he will be like always has been.
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I don’t understand. Are you agreeing with the Joba/Phil swap? If so, how do you even plan that out, given he’ll be out 12-18 months? Throw Hughes to the pen, leave a hole in the rotation, wait out Joba’s recovery, then hope he can come back and be stretched to SP?