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Haitian refugees experience HOPE Week

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 27, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The latest Yankees announcement for the third day of HOPE Week was kind of lost in the shuffle because the team played a day game this afternoon, but here are the details from the Yankees.

The New York Yankees are proud to continue HOPE Week 2011 (Helping Others Persevere & Excel) on Wednesday by celebrating the Haitian refugees, aged 7 to 13, taken in by Ss. Joachim and Anne’s School in Queens, N.Y. following the country’s devastating January 2010 earthquake.

The Yankees will host the Haitian refugees for Wednesday’s 1:05 p.m. Yankees game, after which Yankees players CC Sabathia, Jorge Posada, Freddy Garcia and Bartolo Colon, along with Yankees coaches Mike Harkey and Tony Pena will join them for a Gray Line New York double-decker bus tour of Manhattan leaving directly from Yankee Stadium.

Stops will include the United Nations, where representatives of the body will greet the children, followed by the Empire State Building, where the children will participate in a ceremonial lighting of the building followed by a photo opportunity with the Yankees from the observation deck. The children and Yankees will then reboard the bus to visit Times Square.

The final stop will be at St. Patrick’s Cathedral, where Archbishop Timothy Dolan will give a tour of the building and have dessert with the children in his private residence.

THE STORY OF THE HAITIAN REFUGEES OF SS. JOACHIM AND ANNE’S SCHOOL

For 15 child refugees who endured the devastating earthquake in Haiti on January 12, 2010, it was the loving arms of Ss. Joachim and Anne’s School in Queens Village, N.Y., that took them in.

The children, now aged 7 to 13, arrived in New York with nothing, having lost loved ones and been witness to unspeakable horrors. All have taken to their new home and cherish their opportunity at an education. One child walks 45 minutes each way to school and another, who lost both of his parents, dreams of becoming president of his homeland so he can rebuild his nation. Even the school’s parochial vicar, Rev. Jean-Moise Delva, 34, was not spared tragedy as his Haitian elementary school collapsed, killing the parish priest who was his mentor.

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237 Responses to “Haitian refugees experience HOPE Week”

  1. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    blake July 27th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Bret,

    Again….the White Sox are only 4 games back…..

    *********

    And they just traded away a starting pitcher for no immediate help.

    They could use a pitcher to take Edwin Jackson’s place.

  2. Joe from Long Island July 27th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Bret – what about Kenny W. making a real splash?

    Forget a trade for Carlos Quentin.

    What about a trade for Paul Konerko?

  3. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Tar,

    I liked what Davis was doing but what happened last year with the NCAA embarrassed the school and id say that was a lot of the reason behind it.

    Bret,

    They have 6 starters and Jackson is at the end of his deal and they got bulpell help.

  4. 4time July 27th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    PhilHughes65 Geez so many bitter people today. Sad

    ————-

    LOL

  5. jacksquat July 27th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Yanks could be “in on” Jimenez and/or Kuroda just to raise the price for the Red Sox, maybe to point where some other team outbids them. Red Sox don’t have as much to trade as in the past unless they are going to take off their major league roster.

    Many here seem to think the Yanks are desperate for a #2, but Colon is pitching like a #2. He’s as good or better than just almost any other #2?s in baseball. The only concern with Colon is his durability. So basically a move for another high level pitcher would be for insurance purposes. How much do you want to spend for that insurance?

  6. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Rosenthal said earlier today that both Danks and Floyd are on the market.

    I think Kenny gets bored with him team like our friend Bret the Hitman and is itching to wheel and deal.

  7. Joe from Long Island July 27th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    jacksquat – there’s a lot of $$$ to be made in the post season and WS and ancillary sales and keeping the brand in everyone’s mind. A lot of $$$. So, I think, a little bit of insurance can be a heck of an investment.

    On that note – g’night, all……

  8. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Id like to see the price on Danks…..I would love to add him….I just don’t see why they’d sell only 4 games back in a wide open.division.

  9. BTX July 27th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Jimenez isn’t just for this year, he is locked up for the next 3 years after that.

  10. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Blake,

    Who are their 6 starters? Buerhle is gone after 2011 as well.

    Who are the other 5 now that Jackson is gone?

  11. West Coast Yankee Fan July 27th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Love this Hope Week story; those poor kids. Right on Yankees.

  12. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Bret,

    They had 6 starters this year and weren’t going to resign Jackson. If they trade Danks then who is in their rotation next year?

  13. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Just an idea that I’m going to throw out there.

    The Yankees acquire a starter at the deadline and go with a 6 man rotation. They basically have the WC wrapped up, so they don’t have to really worry about missing the playoffs. But going with a 6 man hurts their chances of winning the division.

    6 man gives all the starters more rest so they are fresh for the postseason. Come October, the 3 guys pitching the best behind CC get the ball.

    Thoughts?

  14. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Joe from LI,

    Konerko is by far the better hitter but Quentin is more versatile for this Yankee team because he can play LF or RF. Plus Konerko’s salary is limiting and it would be tough to take on both Konerko’s salary and Thornton’s. I like Quentin and Thornton for this team.

  15. BTX July 27th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    jaysonst
    #Tigers, #Indians, #Rangers, #Yankees, #RedSox still in on Hiroki Kuroda. But only #RedSox sent scout to watch him tonight.

  16. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    Blake,

    I honestly don’t know.

    Who are their 5 starters outside of Buerhle and Jackson?

    I count 1 starter short after Buerhle leaves.

    That’s where Hughes makes sense for them.

  17. BTX July 27th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Buerhlee
    Jackson
    Danks
    Floyd
    Peavy
    Humber

  18. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Many things are proper cause for suspicion.

    I am fully, completely satisfied that there is none in this particular case, however.

    Please trust me on this one.

    I can say no more.

  19. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    I don’t know if you can count Peavy. Is Humber in the pen now?

  20. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    BTX,

    Plus Jackson is gone and Buerhle is going to be a free agent.

    That means 4 starters with Humber back in the rotation and Peavy healthy.

    White Sox could easily be interested in Hughes+ for Quentin and Thornton.

  21. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Buerhlee (free agent after 2011)
    Jackson (traded)

    1)Danks
    2)Floyd
    3)Peavy
    4)Humber

    Phil Hughes fills a need for the White Sox.

  22. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Bret,

    Those named….I think they decided to move Jackson for bullpen help.

    Lgy,

    or go 5 man and trade the extra starter for a bat ;)

  23. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    I’d trade Hughes for Danks….not for Quentin.

  24. jacksquat July 27th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    I think CC already said he’s not down with a 6 man rotation.

  25. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Kuroda is better than Lackey, Miller, Wakefield, and Aceves so that makes sense for the Sox…..

  26. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    for example if the Yanks traded for Kuroda (which i’m not wild about but if he’s cheap then ok)….they could offer Hughes or Nova as the main player for Hunter Pence……that might not work and they might want too much but you could try.

  27. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    I’d trade Hughes for Danks….not for Quentin.

    ***********

    Kenny Williams has 4 starters for next season. He’s not trading Danks. He’s probably keeping Floyd.

    So let’s say the Yankees trade for Jimenez and keep Nova out of the deal…

    Would you rather put Hughes in AAA or spin him and spare parts for Quentin and Thornton?

  28. GreenBeret7 July 27th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Joe from Long Island July 27th, 2011 at 9:54 pm
    GB – I meant about the cough drops and House of David references!! LOL!!

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    LMAO. Aging confuses.

    Growing up, there were several House Of david traveling semi-pro baseball teams that played for The House Of David and were headquarted i a town about 10 miles or so from where I grew up. We used to go watch them play bal. Some were ex-ML players and older minor leaguers but were still good. The Hidden Ball Trick and other gimmicks they picked up from the old Negro Leagues like Shadow Ball were favorites. The main requirement was growing a beard.

  29. Mell July 27th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    they could offer Hughes or Nova as the main player for Hunter Pence

    ===========================

    Based on rumored proposals they’ve turned down, neither Hughes nor Nova get it done.

  30. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    “Would you rather put Hughes in AAA or spin him and spare parts for Quentin and Thornton?”

    probably put him in AAA

  31. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    One exec said the Astros need to “Get real” when it comes to Hunter Pence.

    He guy is making 7 million and is arbitration eligible. He could make 10 million per year so he’s not cheap and he’s not a player with high upside. His price is way to high for his value.

  32. Tar July 27th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Blake

    Thanks. I really think he wanted to be here for the long term. His short term results were so outstanding that it kind of gave one a lot hope. But I totally understand the embarrassment issue, you just can’t do that.

    Good night Yankee people.

  33. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Mell,

    based on that no….you’d have to add other players. I doubt they are very motivated to trade him but that was just an example. If the Cardinals weren’t stupid they could have offered them for Colby Rasmus :(

  34. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Tar,

    they should hire Jim Tressel :)

  35. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:34 pm
    “Would you rather put Hughes in AAA or spin him and spare parts for Quentin and Thornton?”

    probably put him in AAA

    ********

    That’s where we disagree. I think Quentin + Thornton would impact our chances of winning big time in not only 2011 but also in 2012. Putting Hughes in AAA does nothing to help the team and damages the value of Hughes. It could be a long time before he learns a third pitch or figures out how to tighten up his curve and gain back the late movement on his fastball.

  36. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    “Dante Bichette Jr., 3B: 2 for 5, 2 R, 1 BB, 2 K – 21 for his last 32 (.656) with five doubles, a triples, and a homer”

    http://www.riveravenueblues.com

  37. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Bret,

    I just don’t think that Cashman would do that and I’m not sure the White Sox would either because i’m not certain that they’ll sell….

  38. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Blake,

    Likewise, I have a hard time envisioning Hughes in AAA if the Yankees trade for Ubaldo Jimenez. If they land Jimenez, then Hughes is a goner IMHO.

  39. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Bret,

    maybe….we’ll just have to wait and see. I doubt the Rockies would want Hughes because he’s in Arbitration and because of his pitching style……and you’d have to have another match somewhere that made sense and filled another need. Hey maybe they could offer Hughes to the Cardinals for whatever good prospects they have left…..

  40. Bret The Hitman July 27th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Blake,

    The White Sox are going to sell Carlos Quentin. He’s a free agent after next season…

    From MLBTR:

    “The Phillies, who saw Carlos Beltran leave the NL East today, are interested in Carlos Quentin, according to Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). The possibility of Quentin going to Philadelphia “was talked about” a week or so ago, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (on Twitter).

    The Phillies have scouted Quentin and it’s worth noting that the White Sox have been scouting Atlanta’s system in anticipation of a possible deal involving the 28-year-old right fielder. He has a .265/.356/.516 line with 20 homers this year and earns $5.05MM. He’ll earn a raise in 2012, when he’s arbitration eligible for the final time.”

  41. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    The closer we get to the deadline the more I want Ubaldo. As much as we talk about the aging offense, how many more years is CC going to be an Ace?

    I love CC and think he is absolutely awesome but at some point during his contract he is not going to be one of the top pitchers in the game. He is going to decline at some point.

    This season he is in absolute beast mode. Probably the best he has ever pitched. This is a great time to go for it and pair him up with Ubaldo while CC is at his peak.

    Manny and Dellin won’t be ready until 2013, the Yankees are not going to go into the season with both of them in the rotation, and who knows how many years it will take them to develop into reliable starters after that if they ever even get to that point.

  42. kd July 27th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    even though keith law didn’t even have him in the top 100, maybe the yankees knew what they were doing with that bichette kid.

  43. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Bret,

    maybe they do move him….i don’t know….I just wouldn’t trade Hughes for him

  44. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    kd,

    he really seems to know how to hit….I haven’t seen him play but the box scores would indicate a good approach especially for an 18 year old.

    LGY,

    I’d love to see him as well….I just don’t know how far they’ll drop the price as they don’t need to trade him and if they keep pushing to trade him now then you wonder what the reason why is…..I’m really torn on it. I want him, but I don’t want to trade Montero for him and all indications are that he’d be in the deal.

  45. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Offer Swisher and Nova for the Cardinals entire farm system…..they are going for it this year, they don’t need it.

  46. Benny Blanco July 27th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Manny and Dellin won’t be ready until 2013, the Yankees are not going to go into the season with both of them in the rotation, and who knows how many years it will take them to develop into reliable starters after that if they ever even get to that point.
    =======================

    Thank you.

  47. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Godzilla continues his renewal in Oakland.

    It’s a cry for help. How do you say “get me out of here!!!” in Japanese?

  48. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    So school me on Kuroda guys because I’ve never seen him throw a pitch (I think). Is he better than what we have?

    Seems like getting into a bidding war with other teams for a mid 30′s starter pitching in the NL West doesn’t compute with me.

  49. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Long distance twee pop dedication from Godzilla to the Yankees:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yS_DcqPkEYM

  50. kd July 27th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    they say girardi had been scouting bichette for a long time. might not be a popular thing to say on lohud, but girardi seems to have dome something right.

  51. blake July 27th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Kuroda is probably better than AJ and the way Hughes the way he’s pitching. He’d be a marginal upgrade IMO….not a difference maker in a playoff series and would have little affect on the regular season standings. Pointless move to me unless it’s pretty cheap on the prospect side…..they don’t need him to make the playoffs. I’d say they leaked that to push the Rockies

  52. kd July 27th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    hilarious nick.

    did you get big game tickets? we did, but man we payed a lot

  53. Vineyard Yankee July 27th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Maybe Kuroda could swing up the coast and pickup Matsui on his way to NY. The old two birds in one airplane thing.

  54. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    LGY,

    Great post above. Couldn’t have said it better myself. Not to mention that Betances is almost Hughes’ age (I think) and he still won’t be physically ready to throw a full 200 inning-ish season in the majors next year.

  55. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    They say Girardi was scouting Little Dante in the rec room?

    Are these the same people that think Dudley had it coming?

    :(

  56. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Thanks blake.

    And I would personally tap dance if the Yankees brought Matsui back for the stretch run. One of my favorite Yankees all time. Love that guy. I think he’d definitely be part of some magic if he came back here again.

  57. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    kd: the head of my season ticket group whiffed on Big Game tickets, so we’ll have to buy them cheaper at market rates closer to game day. ;)

  58. igotid88 July 27th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    kuroda might be good but he’s not an upgrade. The more Hughes pitches the better he will get.

  59. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Nick,

    Are you insinuating Girardi was showing “special” cartoons and giving Piccolo Dante sips of wine?

  60. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    All will be cleared up on a very special episode of the Joe Girardi Show.

    WIth Special Guest Star Gordon Jump as Randy Levine.

    Exclusively on YES.

  61. Ghostwriter July 27th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    LGY July 27th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    The closer we get to the deadline the more I want Ubaldo. As much as we talk about the aging offense, how many more years is CC going to be an Ace?

    I love CC and think he is absolutely awesome but at some point during his contract he is not going to be one of the top pitchers in the game. He is going to decline at some point.

    This season he is in absolute beast mode. Probably the best he has ever pitched. This is a great time to go for it and pair him up with Ubaldo while CC is at his peak.

    Manny and Dellin won’t be ready until 2013, the Yankees are not going to go into the season with both of them in the rotation, and who knows how many years it will take them to develop into reliable starters after that if they ever even get to that point.
    =============
    I don’t see the reason for the impatience, especially at the price that the Rox are seeking. It seems myopic to me. Ubaldo doesn’t make the Yanks a sure thing this year. He doesn’t even shore up the big area of need for the Yanks, consistent run production. So, what’s the hurry? I really don’t get it…

    I would rather see the Yanks stand pat than see Cash give away 3 or 4 top prospects for this guy. I can see sending Hughes and a couple of good low-level prospects, but not much more.

  62. GreenBeret7 July 27th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Kuroda is pitching right now. no score in the 4th inning. 1 hit, 1 walk and 4 strikeouts

  63. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Likewise, as much as I dream of Montero hitting bombs over the short porch and blasting holes through the Green Monster I have lost almost all faith that Montero will ever wear a Yankee uniform. :(

    First last year Cashman talks all season about how amazing the Yankees catching depth is and how Montero is already better than some catchers in the big leagues, yet he goes out and signs Russell Martin who has absolutely sucked for 2 seasons. And he promises Martin the starting job! He doesn’t even let Montero compete with him! :mad:

    Now their catchers are so bad offensively that I seriously envy the Jason Varitek-Jarrod Saltalamacchia tandem. And to top it off a putrid hitter at DH. Yet, somehow Montero is not called up.

    As I step back from my tight gripped prospect bear hug on Montero and look at how the Yankees have handled him the past year, I don’t think he will get the chance to hit those oppo bombs over the short porch.

    I’m don’t want to trade the Jesus Montero that I envision in Pinstripes. But the way the Yankees seem to view his future, I’d trade him for Ubaldo.

  64. Pat M. July 27th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    LGY….Manny and Dellin are not going to be in position to chuck 180-200 innings for several years at least at the Big League level so that means Manny will be what 23-24 and Dellin 27-28 ? …..Yanks have a chance to snag a top tierish type guy who will be a veteran who will be just 30 then…..Yanks have to be smart of course, but getting him could have a big consequences for years to come……I think think Dellin would be on the move to Denver though along with Montero

  65. MTU July 27th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Forget “Kuroded”. We’re not looking to add rust are we ?

    I thought we were Big game hunters ?

    Nice disinformation campaign on the part of the Yanks to make O’Dowd get off the dime.

    ;)

  66. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Basically, people need to stop thinking like their prospect loving self and start thinking like the Yankees.

    You may look at Dellin and Manny and say these kids are going to be dominate in a couple of years. You may look at Montero and say this kid is going to be a killer middle of the order bat.

    However, those things will only happen if the Yankees give it the chance to happen.

    At the end of the day, do you really think the Yankees will trust Manny and Dellin with rotation spots anytime in the next few years? Do you really think the Yankees will trust Montero with a full time role?

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan July 27th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    I LOVE the idea of bringing Matsui back to be an occasional pinch hitter or DH. Who would you rather have up in a clutch situation going forward? Posda, Jones or Godzilla.

  68. Vineyard Yankee July 27th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    ‘Forget “Kuroded”’

    ==============

    Best line I heard today. :-)

  69. Ghostwriter July 27th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Likewise, as much as I dream of Montero hitting bombs over the short porch and blasting holes through the Green Monster I have lost almost all faith that Montero will ever wear a Yankee uniform. :(

    First last year Cashman talks all season about how amazing the Yankees catching depth is and how Montero is already better than some catchers in the big leagues, yet he goes out and signs Russell Martin who has absolutely sucked for 2 seasons. And he promises Martin the starting job! He doesn’t even let Montero compete with him! :mad:
    ============

    I think that was about buying Montero another year to develop with no pressure. I think that they are trying to replicate how they brought in Girardi to ease Posada into the starting catcher’s job. Montero got off to a bad start this year, but now he’s getting hot. I haven’t seen any clear signals that the Yanks have given up on him. I think that he’ll be in the Bronx within a month.

  70. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Wow, Matsui hust hit a 3-run bomb right over the Godzilla banner deep into the right field stands.

    :shock:

    He’s not kidding, he wants out!

  71. MTU July 27th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Pat M.-

    Point of info. I have seen U-Jim pitch many, many times. I get the Rox feed.

    He’s not a slim-jim, and he ain’t chopped liver. Boy can chuck it. Hope he’s healthy ?

    :)

  72. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    West Coast,

    We shouldn’t get our hopes of Matsui back in pinstripes for the stretch run up. Posada blocks that move and since he got a hit today I’m sure Girardi thinks he’s ready to take off.

    Matsui as a bench bat would be like having Straw/Sierra/Raines/Chilli as bench bats again. I’d love that move even though he offers no defense in the OF.

  73. Bronx Jeers July 27th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Dellin is 23 and could end up with 115? innings. I’m not sure he’s at 84 now.

    Manny’s 20 and has thrown 90.

    I guess that means 2013 at the earliest.

  74. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    The 7-0 A’s outburst is all vs. B.G. Shields, btw.

  75. Benny Blanco July 27th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    what we have to realize is NOTHING is sure thing. Yankees had the best lineup in baseball in 06 and got shut down in the playoffs.

    We could have signed cliff lee and he could’ve had a 4era right now and people would be complaining left and right.

    no one expected Colby Lewis to shut the yankees down last year.

    NOTHING IS GUARANTEED!

  76. Vineyard Yankee July 27th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Almost anybody would be an upgrade over Posada right now. Matsui is comfortable in NY, still has his pad and can still find the short porch with the big fly. Putting him back in the Yankee lineup would only help him, compared to Oakland’s.

  77. Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    I meant 8-0. And counting.

  78. Ghostwriter July 27th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Nick in SF July 27th, 2011 at 11:15 pm

    Wow, Matsui hust hit a 3-run bomb right over the Godzilla banner deep into the right field stands.

    :shock:

    He’s not kidding, he wants out!
    ================

    He would partially solve what I consider to be our biggest hole–clutch-hitting. However, I would still love to pick up another outfielder for the stretch run to replace Jones.

  79. West Coast Yankee Fan July 27th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    If I had one critical at bat at a big moment, despite his age, there are very few Yankees I would rather have up there than Matsui.

  80. Vineyard Yankee July 27th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    ‘Big Game’ was due for a bad one. All the recent hype about him probably went right to his head. (big head that is)

  81. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Stop talking Matsui guys. You’re setting me up for heartbreak when they don’t deal for him. It’s like a reverse prospect hugger thing with me and him.

    The guy freaking apologized for breaking his wrist playing hard nosed defense.

    That’s a Yankee. Not some of these excuses first guys parading around pinstripes.

  82. Betsy July 27th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    GLove, that insult from the previous thread is the best you can do?

    Pat M, no way was I lumping you in with those trolls, etc………I’m just saying that we seem to be at crossed swords when it comes to Phil. I don’t feel like constantly having to worry about posting an opinion when the reaction to that opinion is to have barbs thrown my way.

    That play last night is one for the books – it reminds me sort of of the SD/Rockies game from a few years ago, but this was beyond embarrassing.

    Hope week is so great – I’m so happy that these kids are going to have a wonderful experience here.

  83. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    I think that was about buying Montero another year to develop with no pressure. I think that they are trying to replicate how they brought in Girardi to ease Posada into the starting catcher’s job. Montero got off to a bad start this year, but now he’s getting hot. I haven’t seen any clear signals that the Yanks have given up on him. I think that he’ll be in the Bronx within a month.

    ——————–

    Why is Montero the one the Yankees are willing to build a trade around for Ubaldo while they try to keep Dellin and Nova out of it and have deemed Manny untouchable?

  84. Bronx Jeers July 27th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    The guy freaking apologized for breaking his wrist playing hard nosed defense.

    That’s a Yankee. Not some of these excuses first guys parading around pinstripes.

    ————————————————————————

    I think you can buy an official replica of his cast at Steiner for $299.99 :wink:

  85. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Betsy,

    Someday, if you follow the yellow brick road maybe the wizard will give you a sense of humor!

  86. West Coast Yankee Fan July 27th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Bronx Jeers July 27th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    The guy freaking apologized for breaking his wrist playing hard nosed defense.

    That’s a Yankee. Not some of these excuses first guys parading around pinstripes.

    ————————————————————————

    I think you can buy an official replica of his cast at Steiner for $299.99

    **************************************

    But you can buy the cast of the patient before Matsui for $199.99

  87. blake July 27th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Because Manny is a high upside lefty that’s only 20 years old. LHP is very hard to find and very important in Yankeed stadium. Betances may have great stuff…but he’s 3 years older, has more injury history, and has a delivery that’s going to be much tougher to keep in sync. I don’t know why they’d do Montero…..the Rockies probably are demanding him.

    Melancon just K’d Pujols for the save.

  88. Vineyard Yankee July 27th, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    Hughes is like in extended ST right now. He will continue to get better. It would be nice if the ‘negative nellies’ would get off his case until he at least gets a couple more starts under his belt.

  89. blake July 27th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    If the Yankees trade Montero then they must privately agree with everyone that says that he’s not going to be able to stay behind the plate…..because if they thought otherwise then I don’t see any way you could trade him.

  90. Betsy July 27th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    I have a sense of humor, GLove, lol. That “joke” wasn’t very funny, but on the other hand, the idea that you thought it WAS funny IS funny.

  91. MTU July 27th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    You don’t bag big game with peashooters and slingshots.

    You need to bring out the heavy artillery and lay down some lead.

    It’s a jungle out there. Lot’s of hunters. Few have the right “caliber” weapon(s) to get the job done.

    But the Yankees do. Locked and loaded baby waiting for the prey to enter the field.

    Cashman with an elephant gun.

    :)

  92. Betsy July 27th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    Blake, if Romine is really someone they don’t want to trade, then that tells you they do have their doubts. I wonder, though, if this idea that he’s practically untouchable is just a way of pumping up his trade value

  93. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    If the Yankees trade Montero then they must privately agree with everyone that says that he’s not going to be able to stay behind the plate…..because if they thought otherwise then I don’t see any way you could trade him.

    ——————–

    I think Cashman has a thing for Martin. He gets latched onto to certain players and apparently had been trying for years to trade for him.

  94. Ghostwriter July 27th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    ——————–

    Why is Montero the one the Yankees are willing to build a trade around for Ubaldo while they try to keep Dellin and Nova out of it and have deemed Manny untouchable?

    ==============
    I don’t know that’s true. If it is true, then obviously, he isn’t untouchable. Perhaps they consider Jimenez as important as they considered Lee was last year, or perhaps they gave up on him. Your guess is as good as mine. I don’t think getting Jimenez is a pressing need that will put the Yanks over the top this year.

  95. blake July 27th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Betsy,

    My guess is that they have placed Romine in that “untouchable” category to increase his perceived value….doesn’t mean he’s not a good player but they are just trying to get the value as high as they can on all their guys.

  96. Pat M. July 27th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    All’s good Bets

  97. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    “Brian Cashman says that he can remember as far back as three years ago talking with his right-hand man, Billy Eppler, and agreeing that they thought Russell Martin was “Thurman Munson-like.”

    Over the past three years, Cashman said he called the Dodgers to try to trade for Martin. Each time Los Angeles told him that Martin was unavailable. (How interesting would that have been with Jorge Posada still firmly the catcher if Martin were brought in?)”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....urman-like

    I would bet right now that Martin is the Yankee catcher for several years to come.

  98. blake July 27th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    The Yanks may like the Romine/Martin depth enough to move Montero….I like Martin too defensively but they do need him to hit more consistently, I think he could and think he’d be pretty effective playing about 60% of the time…..he seems to wear down and get into funks when he plays too much.

  99. MTU July 27th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Munson could hit too.

    ;)

  100. Betsy July 27th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    Pat M, I’m glad…….. :)

    Blake, I think that’s true, but does that really work? Teams aren’t stupid- they scout these players and form their own judgments. I can’t imagine teams thinking more highly of Romine, for example, because the Yankees say they don’t want to trade him.

  101. GreenBeret7 July 27th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Banuelos is on target to reach a 125-130 inning goal this year andBetances is good for 130-140 innigs. They’ll be ready for a full load of 200 innings in 2013.

  102. blake July 27th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Betsy,

    It’s just part of the game…..it may not work but they try it anyway. Same reason the Cardinals said over and over they weren’t shopping Rasmus when they really were.

  103. Bronx Jeers July 27th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Munson could grow a real mustache.

  104. Pat M. July 27th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    Manny B, Dellin, Nova and Noesi…..Which 2 would you keep if it came to that ???? Foe me it’s Manny B and Noesi…….As for Martin, I think not only does Cashman love him I think Pena and Giradi are in love with him……And Romine could fall into that mold of catcher…..

  105. Ghostwriter July 27th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    “Brian Cashman says that he can remember as far back as three years ago talking with his right-hand man, Billy Eppler, and agreeing that they thought Russell Martin was “Thurman Munson-like.”

    Over the past three years, Cashman said he called the Dodgers to try to trade for Martin. Each time Los Angeles told him that Martin was unavailable. (How interesting would that have been with Jorge Posada still firmly the catcher if Martin were brought in?)”

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo…..urman-like

    I would bet right now that Martin is the Yankee catcher for several years to come.
    ===============
    This is a very plausible theory. However, none of this rules out keeping both Montero and Martin, and sharing the catching duties between them. Look at the number of games that Posada and Girardi played during the late nineties, and how Girardi was gradually phased out. The big difference here is that Girardi at the time was a couple of years younger than Martin.

  106. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    I’m am reading through the posts from earlier today.

    I have to agree with blake. G Love, your posts are always entertaining and I am really enjoying reading you going at it with Prufrock and Yankeefem. :P

    I also agree with a lot of what you posted this morning/afternoon.

  107. blake July 27th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    I would keep Banuelos and Betances…..but I really like Noesi a lot and would hate to part with him. He looks like a future really solid starter to me…..probably not a 1 or 2 but possibily a good #3. Nova is the guy I’d most easily part with there

  108. MTU July 27th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Have a good night folks.

    It’s all gonna be over soon.

    And no matter what happens the Sun’s still gonna come up.

    And the Yankees will still be the best sports franchise in the World.

    Bar none.

    :)

  109. blake July 27th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    LGY,

    did you read where I threw a fit over the Rasmus deal?…..I actually threw my paci and animal crackers at the computer.

  110. Ghostwriter July 27th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    EDIT:
    This is a very plausible theory. However, none of this rules out keeping both Montero and Martin, and sharing the catching duties between them. Look at the number of games that Posada and Girardi played during the late nineties, and how Girardi was gradually phased out. The big difference here is that Martin is a couple of years younger than Girardi was at the time.

  111. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Banuelos is on target to reach a 125-130 inning goal this year andBetances is good for 130-140 innigs. They’ll be ready for a full load of 200 innings in 2013.

    ——————

    They only have 6-7 starts left this season.

  112. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    LGY,

    did you read where I threw a fit over the Rasmus deal?…..I actually threw my paci and animal crackers at the computer.

    ——————–

    :lol:

    Haven’t got there yet, but the image is very funny. I really can’t believe that’s all Rasmus was traded for.

  113. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Martin is here to stay unless Cashman and Girardi are leaving for some reason.

    Out of Montero and Romine, 1 of them are getting dealt by Sunday.

    I really hope Cashman can find a way to bag Ubaldo and keep Montero, but I’m not confident that can happen.

    If Montero headlines the package then Manny B can’t be in it. I think said awhile ago that Montero, Nova and lesser guys should get it done.

    I’m sure if the Yankees were offering Montero, Betances and Nova, Ubaldo would be trying on his pinstripes right now.

  114. GreenBeret7 July 27th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Martin won’t be a full time catcher for NY. He’ll go the way of Girardi being phased out for Posada. Montero will slide in and get a good portion of the catching until Romine is ready and then Martin will be further phased out. It buys time to get them both ready. NYYs will not carry a .230 hitting catcher for 2 years.

  115. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    How many gumdrops does it take to get Ubaldo?? ;)

  116. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Is Manny a gummy bear, because Cash won’t trade him?

    Manuel “Gummy Bear” Banuelos. Someone needs to add that to his bref page.

  117. G. Love July 27th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    LGY,

    You don’t trade gummy bears. However, gumdrops, in the parlance of our time, are fungible. We’ll know who the gummy bears are by Sunday night.

    Hopefully this is all resolved before Breaking Bad is on Sunday night because I can’t miss that. The deadline is still 4pm, right?

  118. LGY July 27th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Yeah, I believe the deadline is at 4.

    Reading these earlier threads, I am really want some chocolate and gummy bears. This is quite an unfortunate situation b/c I am in NJ right now and would have to drive to get them. :(

  119. Nick in SF July 28th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Mr. Cashman will undoubtably be upgrading to the Motorola Photon 4G on Sunday morning and the pulling off all the spiffy trades that afternoon.

  120. Giuseppe Franco July 28th, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Ditto on Breaking Bad. Love that show.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Montero is still a Yankee on Aug 1st. In fact, I think the odds are better than not. Same for Romine.

    And Jimenez will remain in Colorado.

  121. GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Oakland beating the Devil Rays and Shields like a rented mule, 12-0 in the 6th inning. 12 hits and 10 earned runs in 4 inningsr

  122. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 am

    So Shields gets rocked by the Red Sox and Athletics, but holds that Yankees to 1 ER in 15 2/3 innings in his past 4 starts?

    That’s fun.

  123. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 12:08 am

    LGY….It’s baseball

  124. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Pat M,

    Yeah I know. I’m just messing around.

    However, I do wonder about this Yankee team in recent years.

    It seems like there are just some pitchers the absolutely can’t figure out no matter how many times they face them.

  125. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Glove, if you had to rank in order the yankee pitching prospects..How would you rank them?.. in terms of stuff and potential

    And i’m referring to everyone from AAA to AA

  126. G. Love July 28th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    Benny,

    I can’t rank prospects. I’ve only seen them play in spring training. And besides, I once while at Spring Training saw Chase Wright pitch in person for the Yankees and turned to my buddy and said, “that guy is going to be huge”. 4 HR’s over the green monster in 1 inning later….

    I trust the Yankees to keep the one’s they think are can’t miss. I also trust the Yankees to be less emotional about them than the fans who follow them in the minor leagues obsessively.

  127. GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2011 at 12:18 am

    For as long as I can remeber, there have been pitchers that couldn’t beat anyome but, NY.Virgil trucks, Frank Lary (decent pitcher that won about 130 games and around 30 times it was the Yankees). Even in his bad years Dean Chance and Sam Mcdowell had the Yanks beat as soon as they got off the plane. Trucks had a 5-19 record one year and shut out the Mantle led Yankees 2 times and on was a no hitter.

  128. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 12:37 am

    GB…..Freekin Frank Lary used to slay the Bombers……As for Virgil Trucks, I just remember his 58-59 Topps card when I started to get into baseball in 1960…….He was an old guy on an old card for all I knew back then……However his Tiger days and smacking the Yanks down were and still are legendary

  129. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:41 am

    Montero’s HR from last night

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....d=17336537

  130. RSM July 28th, 2011 at 12:42 am

    I don’t consider myself a “prospect hugger” and would gladly trade the farm for an established ace to pair with CC, as that’s what the team needs to beat the Sox in the ALCS & Phillies in the WS.
    That said, I just don’t see Ubaldo as that guy. He’s had exactly 1/2 season of dominance, over a year ago, in the weak NL West, and you guys want to empty the farm for him.
    Consider this…Hughes had exactly 1/2 season of dominance, over a year ago, in the offensive juggernaut known as the AL East, and the same people want to remove him from the rotation and possibly trade him.

    Not defending Hughes. My point is just that I don’t see Ubaldo as the solution to the problem.

    Ultimately, Cash needs to send a few guys to Seattle to make Jack an offer he can’t refuse, because King Felix IS that guy.

  131. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 12:43 am

    LGY….Where in the hell did that ball land ??? Canada !!!!

  132. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Ubaldo was not just dominant for half a season. 2010 was his breakout season, but he was a young, developing, frontline pitcher for the 2 years prior to 2010 as well.

    2008-2010: 638.1 IP, 3.43, 137 ERA+

    Ubaldo is a #1. Get him out of Coors and his ERA will be shinier.

  133. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:49 am

    Jon Lester who is the same age as Ubaldo.

    2008-2010: 621.2 IP, 3.29 ERA, 138 ERA+

  134. kd July 28th, 2011 at 12:51 am

    wow. he got all of that one!

    sad to see him go but you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. no question that ubaldo helps this team win the al east this year

  135. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:52 am

    LOL Pat. That was a serious blast.

  136. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    That was the light tower power GB raves about ……..LGY, I’m with you Ulbaldo’s upside and future….The question is the price tag but he wants out of Denver

  137. kd July 28th, 2011 at 12:57 am

    pat m,

    ubaldo wants out of denver? first i heard that

  138. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 1:00 am

    kd, in so many words…However he hasn’t demanded a trade publically…..

  139. m July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 am

    When you’re being shopped, you probably feel less and less loyal to the team by the day.

  140. Bronx Jeers July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 am

    If Ubaldo gets traded he can opt out of the last year on his contract. It’s the quickest path to free agency for him. I’m sure he’d be muy feliz to come to NY.

  141. kd July 28th, 2011 at 1:11 am

    thanks for the info pat m. you really are the yoda of this blog

  142. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    2008-2010

    Lee: 667.1 IP, 2.98 ERA, 142 ERA+
    Hamels: 629.2 IP, 3.46 ERA, 122 ERA+
    Verlander: 665.1 IP, 3.84 ERA, 114 ERA+
    Weaver: 612 IP, 3.65 ERA, 117 ERA+
    Haren: 680.1 IP, 3.47 ERA, 127 ERA+
    Cain: 658.2 IP, 3.27 ERA, 129 ERA+
    Greinke: 651.2 IP, 3.25 ERA, 133 ERA+
    Danks: 608.1 IP, 3.61 ERA, 125 ERA+

  143. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    kd….That a unwarranted compliment……One of our old posters here who we missed provided me with a ton of good inside whispers today,,,,,,,It’s just a reminder that we lost so many outstanding and diversified contributors that made the LoHud so very special……The place is a shell of it’s prior self….Just my opinion……Today was good here however……….

  144. kd July 28th, 2011 at 1:24 am

    i couldn’t agree more. i remember the bobcat days, amongst others, when i literally did nothing in the office but read lohud. i am glad that you are still in contact with sj. he really is missed. it’s such a shame what happened, although i really don’t have a clear idea of what happened. seems like there are too many children who would rather be angry than sit back and enjoy baseball for what it is, the ultimate game or humility.

    today was a great day, first in a really long time. i gotta admit, when i see the stupidity i try not to post. kinda sad. if you talk to him, tell him that at least one poster really misses his insights.

    the rest of the fools can go to the lohud mud slinging blog and have at it

  145. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    Good Night KD

  146. Captain Clutch July 28th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    It could get really interesting. Fox’s Ken Rosenthal, a guy who has appeared to have a pipeline to Williams through the years, reports the White Sox are weighing the possibility of dealing Danks (4-0, 0.98 ERA in his last six starts) or Gavin Floyd.

    If Williams really is willing to deal Danks — and he probably should be given the uncertainty of keeping him beyond 2012 — he will have no shortage of takers. Danks is the type of starter who would appeal to every contender, especially the Yankees and Red Sox. Those teams aren’t worried about making the playoffs but are looking for starters to pitch behind aces CC Sabathia and Josh Beckett.

    Danks would be huge for the Yankees, who previously have said they won’t deal top pitching prospects Dellin Betances and Manny Banuelos. He could be a game-changer.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....?track=rss

  147. Captain Clutch July 28th, 2011 at 1:32 am

    I hope Cashman is talking a lot with Williams this week

  148. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 2:41 am

    I’d like to see Cashman walk into O’Dowd’s office holding a bag of montero’s and demand Ubaldo. O’dowd: “you walk into my office holding a bag of monteros? How stupid can you be!” Cashman: “These aren’t Monteros” *ROMINES*

  149. sammiejohnson July 28th, 2011 at 2:48 am

    Ultimately, Cash needs to send a few guys to Seattle to make Jack an offer he can’t refuse, because King Felix IS that guy.

    ______________________

    I agree with this. If you are going to trade the farm, it better be for Felix and not Ubaldo….

  150. CompassRosy July 28th, 2011 at 2:55 am

    LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 am

    So Shields gets rocked by the Red Sox and Athletics, but holds that Yankees to 1 ER in 15 2/3 innings in his past 4 starts?
    ===========================

    And don’t forget to add the M’s to that list. They beat Shields 8-2 back in early June.
    Ah, those were the days – series wins vs. the likes of the Yanks, the RS, the Rays, the Tiggers and the Phils.

    What a difference a month makes.

    Speaking of the Rays, Erik Bedard will be starting against them (Niemann) on Friday in Seattle.

    Fingers and toes crossed that he doesn’t break, pull or strain anything.

  151. CompassRosy July 28th, 2011 at 2:58 am

    sammiejohnson July 28th, 2011 at 2:48 am

    I agree with this. If you are going to trade the farm, it better be for Felix and not Ubaldo….
    ============================

    You guys just never give up, do you?

    :)

  152. m July 28th, 2011 at 3:35 am

    I also like dealing with Kenny Williams. It’s usually painless. :)

  153. I Am Winning July 28th, 2011 at 4:00 am

    Talk of getting such unrealistic pitchers like King Felix, himself, need to stop. We need to rescue the likes of Hiroki Kuroda from the LADs. He has an ugly 3.11 ERA and a wonderful 13 loses to show for it.

  154. Mike Ri July 28th, 2011 at 6:31 am

    Morning

    I hope the Talk of Kuroda isn’t true ! . . giving up ANY prospects for him is a complete waste !. . its a lateral move and doesn’t increase our chances of winning a World Series

  155. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 6:54 am

    just get ulbadlo and be done with it….:)

  156. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 6:55 am

    Glad to see IPK is 12-3 with a 3.22 era! He just couldn’t pitch in NY.

  157. 108 stitches July 28th, 2011 at 7:12 am

    If this were Burnett’s final contract year it would completely change Cashman’s dealing mindset.

    However, Burnett has another 2 years of contract left.

  158. blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:15 am

    If Danks is available then he’s probably the guy to go after because although his best isn’t as good as Ubaldo’s….he’s more consistent and already AL tested…..plus he’s left handed and Kenny Williams is a lot easier to de

    If there is a chance you can get Danks without parting with Manny or Montero then I would rather do that than trade Montero ++ for Ubaldo.

  159. blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:19 am

    If AJ was in the last year of his contract we could have traded him for Colby Rasmus

  160. Mike Ri July 28th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    Blake-

    Whats your take on Kuroda ??

  161. blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:34 am

    Mike,

    I think he’s fine….he’s a pretty good pitcher but I don’t think he’s a guy that will be a difference maker in a playoff series and that’s what the Yanks need…..they don’t need Kuroda to make the playoffs. Id maybe take him if you can’t work anything out for Ubaldo or Danks because he’s probably better than AJ and Hughes/Nova right now…..and he’d give them some insurance for Colon and Garcia……but I wouldn’t give up anybody in the top 10 for him because I just don’t see the need for another 4th starter..

  162. Mike Ri July 28th, 2011 at 7:39 am

    I agree Blake ! .. 100 percent

    thanks for your thoughts ! Hopefully Cashman is working Kenny Williams for Danks .

  163. blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:40 am

    How could the Braves……with their need for a CFer allow Rasmus to go to the Blue Jays for what he went for? How could any team for that matter?

  164. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    Blake-

    Same here on Kuroded.

    Not what we really need or should be hunting for IMO.

    I’d rather stand pat unless he’s really cheap.

    Now if you want to talk Billingsley you might get might my attention.

  165. blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    Mike,

    That’s what he should be doing if Danks is out there…..he can deal with Williams and its possible they could do a package for him without putting Montero or Manny in it. He’s not controlled as long and isn’t viewed as being as “elite” as Ubaldo so the price should be lower. Danks would be a great get for the Yankees.

  166. 108 stitches July 28th, 2011 at 7:43 am

    I’m all in with Danks to sandwich in between the starts of Colon and Garcia. If Jimenez were lefthanded I’d consider Montero as part of the deal. Kenny Williams will be satisfied with Romine and one of either Nova or Noesi. Throw in Kevin Whelan or George Kontos as a bonus to Williams.

  167. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    Blake-

    The Sux passed too. Kid and Dad might constitute a problem.

    I agree that talent is there but just hasn’t shown yet.

    That’s probably why the Cards let him go so cheap and why few teams were willing to take a chance.

    JMO.

  168. blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:48 am

    MTU,

    Im.sure that was a factor…..but man the Cards sold low on that cheap talent.

    108,

    If Cashman could get Danks for Nova and Romine…..Id be happy as a clam.

  169. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 7:49 am

    Williams is an idiot.

    No actually he’s a sheep waiting to be shorn again.

    Danks would be great especially if Williams does his usual routine and
    practically gives him to us for nothing in return.

    Never underestimate how stupid that guy is. One of the worst GM’s around IMO.

    :)

  170. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 7:50 am

    How could the Braves……with their need for a CFer allow Rasmus to go to the Blue Jays for what he went for? How could any team for that matter?
    ——————————————————
    Good morning Blake-

    Maybe GM Frank Wren had recurring nightmares of the Schuerholtz deal that sent Adam Wainwright to the Cardinals+Jason Marquis+Ray King for JD Drew and Eli ‘Who” Marrero!!

  171. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 7:52 am

    I’ll take Danks and Thornton.

    No problem.

    :)

  172. blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    MTU,

    Williams makes some curious decisions…..he just does things to do things sometimes…..

    Trader,

    They could have probably got him for Derek Lowe and a couple of medicore relievers if the price was the same as for the Jays.

  173. Vineyard Yankee July 28th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    blake July 28th, 2011 at 7:15 am

    Blake good post. Easier to obtain, LH and MTU would be ecstatic.

  174. Vineyard Yankee July 28th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Beat me to it. :-(

  175. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    Blake-

    Yeah. Stupid things

    Like:

    Dunn, Peavy, Rios, Gio, Swisher, etc., etc.

    Can’t even remember ‘em all. Those are the ones that come to mind off the top.

    Wish he was the Mgr. of the Red Sox. We’d never lose to them.

  176. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 7:59 am

    They could have probably got him for Derek Lowe and a couple of medicore relievers if the price was the same as for the Jays
    ———————-
    Definitely-if the Braves had eaten part of his contract.

    From AJC newspaper today:

    Cardinals center fielder Colby Rasmus was traded to Toronto on Wednesday, but it was unclear if the Braves had much interest in him anyway.

    There were plenty of other outfielders available or potentially available for trade, and the Braves are known to have interest in Houston’s Hunter Pence, arguably the best in that group. Others that Braves officials are believed to be discussing include outfielders Ryan Ludwick (Padres), Michael Bourn (Astros) and Marlon Byrd (Cubs), and possibly B.J. Upton (Rays).
    ————————
    attached full article:

    http://blogs.ajc.com/atlanta-b.....raves_blog

  177. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 7:59 am

    CC
    Bartolo
    Danks
    AJ
    Freddy/Nova/Hughes

    Not great but solid. A decent playoff rotation with a little bit more insurance built in.

  178. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    His Mo-ness
    Sorryano
    D-Rob
    Thornton
    Noesi
    Logan

    Nice.

  179. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    The Sux passed too. Kid and Dad might constitute a problem

    ===========================

    Not sure they passed as much as they couldn’t work something out. I think one of the primary reasons this worked for Toronto was their willingness to take on some money. Bad money. IMO, it’s quite possible that either the Red Sox or the Yankees could have worked something out with the White Sox on Jackson, which arguably would have put them in play for Rasmus, had they too been willing to take on Teahen and his remaining $8M.

  180. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    Mell-

    I’m onto bigger and better things.

    ;)

  181. upstate kate July 28th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    I think the primary reason the Rasmus deal worked for Toronto is they discovered that his dad has neither a passport nor an enhanced drivers license and so can’t cross the border.

  182. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 8:08 am

    MTU-

    Why would the White Sox trade any more pitching. They just beat the Tigers yesterday, behind Danks stellar performance, and are in the race for the central.

    When I think of it they got help for their bullpen in Jason Frasor and unloaded their 6th pitcher-Jackson and Teahan.

    Maybe they want to get rid of high priced Matt Thornton?

    Are you hearing arb eligible lefty Danks is even available?

  183. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Williams makes some curious decisions…..he just does things to do things sometimes…..

    ===============================

    True. I’m thinking that the William/Guillen tandem are very close to seeing the cachet that came from their World Series expire.

  184. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Here’s my position.

    IMO the Yanks should do one of 3 things:

    1) really go for it and try to upgrade the Rotation and add a quality bat.

    2) Just tweak it. LH for the pen. Upgrade @ DH.

    3) Stand pat and just wait for the Harvest to come in.

    What they shouldn’t do IMO is to add mediocrity at the cost of prospects.

    That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.

    :)

  185. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 8:10 am

    Let’s remember, other gm’s will always make the yankees give up more.

  186. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:11 am

    Trader,

    Pence isn’t a CFer though…..they need a CFer badly.

    MTU,

    You forgot Daniel Hudson for Edwin Jackson…..who he then turned around and traded

  187. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    YT-

    I like to dream.

    U-Jim, Danks, etc. are clear upgrades depending on the price paid.

    No idea if we will get any of them.

    I’m content with any of the 3 alternatives I posted above though I do have my preferences.

    That is all amigo.

    :)

  188. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Trader,

    I’ve been asking the same question …..why would thy trade Danks……someone posted an article last night that said either he or Floyd coukd be available though……you just never know.what Kenny Williams is gonna do.

  189. austinmac July 28th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    The Denver Post reports today the Rockies want to shake up the team and Ubaldo is the only wanted player. They say the Yankees, Reds, Sox and Tigers are the primary interested teams. With respect to the Yankees the reporter wondered if by Sunday they would be willing to take Montero and Hughes/Nova.

    I have long advocated Danks, but it seems all speculation he is available. I hope they get one or the other. Both are young and have upside. This would not be trading youthnfor age.

  190. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    “you just never know.what Kenny Williams is gonna do.”

    Yeah baby.

    :rubbing hands together:

    :)

  191. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    I don’t see why the White Sox would deal with the Yankees again, lol

  192. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Let’s remember, other gm’s will always make the yankees give up more

    =================

    I think this is, generally speaking, a myth.

  193. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Betsy-

    Because Williams is a Masochist.

    :)

  194. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    With respect to the Yankees the reporter wondered if by Sunday they would be willing to take Montero and Hughes/Nova

    ========================

    Don’t imagine Rockies interest in Hughes would be especially high simply because of where he is arbitration-wise.

  195. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    The Yankees are best at taking on expiring contracts. The Jays did take some bad money but that shouldn’t have been a problem for the Yanks to get a cost controlled potential star player when the player price to.acquire was apparently so low.

    One thing to consider is that the Cardinals were looking for guys to help now……this wasn’t a future move for them so they did get some help for this year and the starter/reliever help they got would have been tough for a contender to match without hurting their big league club. Its a terrible big picture deal for the Cards and they probably coukd have got a lot more value for Rasmus……but maybe not in help for this year……..they are all in for 2011 it seems and it makes me wonder if they arent sure Albert will be back.

  196. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    Betsy-

    And we’re his “Daddy”.

  197. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 8:20 am

    Trader,

    Pence isn’t a CFer though…..they need a CFer badly
    ——————————
    Blake-

    Sounds like Pence isn’t available but Michael Bourn is. Bourn is a Brett Gardner almost clone, and the braves liked Gardner before. WithSchafer now on the DL too+Nate terrible McClouth. Bourne could be a nice addition at the top of their lineup and would cost less than BJ Upton.

    Thoughts?

    If they are giving Bourn away would you like to add his speed to the Yankees and maybe DH Swisher, after padding all the water coolers in YS from a Posada tirade?? :)

  198. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    “Don’t imagine Rockies interest in Hughes would be especially high simply because of where he is arbitration-wise.”

    And because he’s a fly ball guy….not the best match for Coors.

  199. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    The Phillies have morphed into the Yankees and are the ultimate win now team.

    Amaro the Bizarro at work.

    Wonder if he’s married his wife twice too.

    :)

  200. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Isn’t Danks having an awful year? No thanks……….I’m not a risk taker and the Yankees have had enough issues with their pitching over the last few years. They need someone they KNOW can perform well and who they KNOW has the stuff to pitch well in the playoffs; they don’t need to be taking on experiments

  201. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Hughes has almost no trade value at this point – and there are a million reasons why he’d have even less to the Rockies

  202. Mike Ri July 28th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Heres the snip-it from the Denver Post

    The Yankees like Jimenez but don’t see him as an ace in their rotation, so pitchers Manuel Banuelos and Dellin Betances are off limits. Would a package centered on Ivan Nova or Phil Hughes and catcher Jesus Montero be enough?

    For now, no. By Sunday? That’s the question hanging over the Rockies like a lead balloon

  203. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Austinmac & Mell-

    Good morning-

    “With respect to the Yankees the reporter wondered if by Sunday they would be willing to take Montero and Hughes/Nova”

    IMO if Hughes gets traded to the Rockies now, his career as a starter would take a downward spiral pitching in Coors.

  204. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Trader,

    Im not sure on Bournes contract situation but I doubt they’d give him.away……he’d be a wonderful fit with the Braves…..they need anybody that’s better than Mclouth.

  205. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Why would the Yankees rather trade Montero than Betances for Ubaldo…..I don’t get that. Hopefully ifs a negotiating ploy and they’ll say ok we’ll give you Betances……but Montero comes out of the deal.

  206. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Holliday and Haren sure would have looked good in PS.

    So would ……

    Choate and Johnson.

    Nah. Not what I was really thinking.

    ;)

  207. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    So the Yankees don’t want Jimenez because CC is their ace? It’s not quite the same thing obviously, but the Phillies didn’t turn Lee down because they had Halladay

  208. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    The Yankees should have learned by now that prospects, no matter how untouchable, are just prospects and there is no guarantee that they’d live up to expectations

  209. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Blake-

    How about Romine, Hughes/Betances, Joseph, and Phelps ?

    :)

  210. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Isn’t Danks having an awful year? No thanks……….
    ———————————-
    Actually Betsy he’s not. He gets <3 runs/game run support. He pitched very well in June after a terrible May and since returning from DL has been very good.

    Can peruse his split stats if you like:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7808/splits

  211. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    SI_JonHeyman 15 mins biggest winner of yesterdays big trading day was #bluejays gm alex anthopoulos, who at 34 is becoming something of a legend

    Have to agree with Heyman here. AA is.making a lot of good moves and the Jays will spend some.money unlike the Rays……..back in the draft I was wanting the Yanks to take a shot on a high school Lefty (Norris) that I’ve seen throw a couple of times…..teams were scared off by the asking price and the Yanks passed with their first pick……who drafted him? The Blue Jays.

  212. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    MTU,

    Id much rather do that than to include Montero.

  213. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    So the Yankees don’t want Jimenez because CC is their ace?

    ================================

    No, that’s not the reason at all. The Yankees have no problem taking on another top of the rotation starter. No greater evidence of this than their pursuit of Lee. Their issue is that they don’t necessarily see Jiminez as that type of pitcher and accordongly don’t want to offer a “top of the rotation” package for him.

  214. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    Off-Day Gossip Break (or how Alex celebrated his birthday)

    http://tiny.cc/bifv5

  215. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Betances, Romine, Nova, Adams/Corban……take it or leave it Rox.

  216. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Reminder- the DJ3K special is on HBO tonight :)

  217. pat July 28th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    “Why would the Yankees rather trade Montero than Betances for Ubaldo”

    Law of supply and demand. The catcher crop is looking healthier right now than the pitcher crop.

  218. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    *accordIngly…..

  219. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Pat-

    “Law of supply and demand”

    Yeah. I gotcha.

    I demand that somebody supply us with another quality SP.

    :)

  220. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 8:41 am

    How about Romine, Hughes/Betances, Joseph, and Phelps ?

    MTU-

    The Reds want Jimenez and are the main competition for the Yankees but now they are 4 games beow .500 and 5.5 games out of first so they might back away from sending a big package.

    Hughes as presently “constructed” won’t survive in Coors, but I like your trade only I’d substitute Nova for Hughes or even go Romine,Betances,Joseph and Nova.

    Good job assistant GM to the Yankees! :)

  221. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    YT-

    It’s about time !

    :)

  222. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    “Law of supply and demand. The catcher crop is looking healthier right now than the pitcher crop.”

    Eh…..the supply of elite hitters prospects above AA for the Yanks is currently 1. They still have Banuelos if they trade Betances.

  223. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    YT-

    If you really want to get so technical about it they could substitute
    Mitchell for Phelps.

    He’s a GB-type guy. Better for Coors.

    ;)

  224. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    MTU

    What? It’s about time I paid you a compliment or I came on board for Ubaldo Jimenez, or BOTH? :)

  225. blake July 28th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Montero+ Betances sounds like it would get it done as the primary pieces for Ubaldo. If Betances is the guy they want as a possible replacement for him then id keep him in and pull Montero out and replace him with Romine. Betances, Romine, and Nova is 3 legit prospects ……one that can go in the rotation now and a catcher and starter that could be ready as early as next year. That’s a good offer and a fair offer.

  226. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    YT-

    It’s about time you realized how hard I work to make the Yankees better.

    :)

  227. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    YT-

    I climb mountains for this team.

    :)

  228. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    Erin July 28th, 2011 at 8:34 am
    Off-Day Gossip Break (or how Alex celebrated his birthday)

    http://tiny.cc/bifv5

    ———————————————————————————-

    How dare you clutter this place up when there is important business going on. :mad:

  229. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    And pay homage frequently.

    :)

  230. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    MaineYankee- so sorry to break up the endless trade talks. Sometimes a girl just needs a break, you know? ;)

  231. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    New Post: Expecting the unexpected

    :arrow:

  232. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    MY-

    I think you found the answer to Hughe’s problems.

    He needs to lose that “clutter”.

    :)

  233. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Blake-

    Agree. Rockies will want at least one ML ready pitcher and we both think Noesi, a slightly better clone of Nova, would be better to keep. I’m on board if Montero is kept out of the deal.
    Regarding Kuroda from MLBTR’s:

    Four factors limiting Kuroda’s trade value: since his signing bonus is yet to be paid, he’s owed almost $6.8MM of his $12MM contract still. Second, as a player with less than six years service time he’s not eligible for draft pick compensation. Third, he possesses leverage with a full no-trade clause, which I think may require additional compensation to waive. Fourth, he’s never pitched in the American League.

  234. 108 stitches July 28th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    If Kenny Williams insisted on taking Matt Thornton along with John Danks it would require no arm twisting. Cashman has the pieces to expand the deal.
    I do the deal for Hughes, Romine, Warren, and either of Adams or Joseph. If Nova or Noesi become a deal maker it’s Cashman’s decision.

  235. pat July 28th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    “Eh…..the supply of elite hitters prospects above AA for the Yanks is currently 1. They still have Banuelos if they trade Betances.”

    I don’t throw around the word great or elite often so “Elite hitter prospect” is an oxymoron to me.

  236. blake July 28th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    “I don’t throw around the word great or elite often so “Elite hitter prospect” is an oxymoron to me.”

    He’s considered one of the best bats in the minors…..so the phrase “elite prospect ” suggests that he is one of the better prospects but that it stil has carries risk. They have mire upside pitching in the upper levels than they do upside hitters.

  237. GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    Reasons to think twice about Kuroda:

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....um=twitter

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