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HOPE Weeks sets up shop on Staten Island

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 28, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

It’s an off day for the Yankees, but HOPE Week continues this morning on Staten Island where a lemonade stand is about to to get the Yankees treatment. Here’s the announcement from the Yankees. This one should be pretty incredible, and not only because there are supposed to be Sports Illustrated swimsuit models in attendance.

The New York Yankees are proud to continue HOPE Week 2011 (Helping Others Persevere & Excel) on Thursday by celebrating Megan Ajello.

Yankees General Manager Brian Cashman and Yankees players Robinson Cano, A.J. Burnett, David Robertson, Andruw Jones, Boone Logan, and Eduardo Nunez, along with coaches Mick Kelleher and Rob Thomson, as well as advance scout/head video coordinator Charlie Wonsowicz will visit Megan at her Staten Island home to help her raise money for the Special Olympics.

Brian Cashman along with Yankee Stadium carpenters will surprise Megan at her Staten Island home prior to her sixth-annual street-side charity lemonade sale with a custom-built lemonade stand. Yankees players, coaches and special guests will join her Staten Island community in helping Megan raise money throughout the day.

Food, karaoke and music will fill the street, and a dunk tank will be brought in for neighbors to dunk Yankees players for charity.

THE STORY OF MEGAN AJELLO

Megan Ajello, 17, is her neighborhood’s fiercest volunteer and community activist, donating presents from her Sweet 16 to Marine Toys for Tots and fighting for handicapped-accessibility for her local playground.

Her biggest battle, however, is against cerebral palsy and scoliosis, which have necessitated six major surgeries, including a spinal fusion. Since 2006 she has hosted a charity lemonade stand outside her home, which has grown from a gathering of neighbors raising a few hundred dollars to a must-attend event for people from as far away as upstate New York, which raised $4,000 last summer.

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253 Responses to “HOPE Weeks sets up shop on Staten Island”

  1. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    That’s awesome. We’re going to need lots of pictures of the dunk tank. ;)

  2. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    What a sweet girl; look at that smile

  3. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    YankeesPR That’s Brian Cashman in the dunk tank, raising money for Megan’s Lemonade Stand #Hopeweek http://yfrog.com/h42fibcj

    :lol:

  4. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    Another great story.

    Evil genious Anthopolis is on the radio now

  5. Irreverent Discourse July 28th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Nice. Cashman is rockin’ the bandana/wig from the building climbing event.

  6. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Irreverent Discourse July 28th, 2011 at 11:09 am
    Nice. Cashman is rockin? the bandana/wig from the building climbing event.

    ********************

    He should have worn the entire elf costume.

  7. pat July 28th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Another pic. yfrog.com/h0rvtjtj

  8. yanks 27 July 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Buster_ESPN
    The Rockies’ asking price for Ubaldo Jimenez remains very, very high — three top prosects.

    JonMorosi
    Source says #RedSox and #Yankees both expected to scout Erik Bedard in Seattle tomorrow night.

  9. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Red Sox, Yankees To Scout Bedard Tomorrow
    By Tim Dierkes [July 28 at 10:14am CST]
    Mariners southpaw Erik Bedard will be a popular man tomorrow night, as he faces off against the Rays in his first start in over a month and last before the trade deadline. The Red Sox and Yankees will have scouts in attendance, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. It’s been previously noted that the Tigers are among the many, many teams eyeing Bedard.

    As I mentioned yesterday, it wouldn’t be surprising if the Indians, Rangers, Pirates, Reds, and Diamondbacks scout this game as well. Despite Bedard’s fragility, the Mariners’ asking price is said to be high.

    -MLBTR

  10. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Last night Pat M. stated his contacts know that the Rox and Yanks have decided on Montero but it seems Montero represents a foot-in-the-door only. The Yankees and Rockies are in disagreement about the complimentary pieces in that trade. The Yankees don’t want to include 2 other high end prospects with Montero just as they refused to include Nova + Nunez with Montero in the Cliff Lee talks last year.

    The fact that the Yankees are buzzing around Kuroda is an indication that they want Colorado to move faster and thus closer to the Yankees version of a trade package that consists of Montero along with lesser prospects.

  11. pat July 28th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    A working link…

    Brian Cashman in the dunk tank for #Yankees HOPE Week. yfrog.com/h0rvtjtj

  12. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    The Yankees are ridding themselves of the Evil Empire tag.

  13. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    MaineYankee,

    How so?

  14. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    He’ll be in my dunk tank if tonight’s Betances’ last start for the organization.

  15. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    I think it’s time for a rousing game of…Is He Still a Yankee on Monday!?

    Jesus Montero
    Phil Hughes
    Dellin Betances
    Manuel Banuelos
    Ivan Nova
    Hector Noesi
    Austin Romine
    Eduardo Nunez

  16. pat July 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Ken_Rosenthal Source: #RedSox all over #Mariners’ Bedard. Story with @jonmorosi. mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/r… #tradedeadline #MLB

  17. 86w183 July 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Not if he uses him to get The King! But I’m with you if Betances is moved for Kuroda… Jimenez depends on the total package.

  18. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
    Source: #RedSox all over #Mariners’ Bedard. Story with @jonmorosi. mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/blog/mlbbuzz/r… #tradedeadline #MLB

    http://mlbbuzz.yardbarker.com/....._post=true

  19. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Jesus Montero – No
    Phil Hughes – No
    Dellin Betances – No
    Manuel Banuelos – Yes
    Ivan Nova – Yes
    Hector Noesi – No
    Austin Romine – Yes
    Eduardo Nunez – Yes
    Gary Sanchez – Yes
    JR Murphy – No

  20. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Bedard would be useful come playoff time. Can he stay injury-free until then?

  21. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    I don’t see the point of getting Kuroda, we have two #3 starters already.

  22. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    teixeiramark25 Thanks again Walmart for funding summer jobs for the kids of Harlem RBI! http://fb.me/vpgrFGz2

  23. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    You all might as well brace yourselves.

    Yankees ain’t winning anything this season without acquiring a difference making SP via trade.

    Bedard? Waste of time.

    Kuroda? Waste of time.

    Ubaldo? Overrated and too expensive.

    They don’t really have viable options and that is the way it goes. Its too bad too because they are clearly down to deal their good prospects for the right player.

  24. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Jesus Montero – Yes
    Phil Hughes – Yes
    Dellin Betances – Yes
    Manuel Banuelos – Yes
    Ivan Nova – Yes
    Hector Noesi – Yes
    Austin Romine – Yes
    Eduardo Nunez – Yes

  25. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Cards GM (cant spell it) is on now……really sounds kinda worried about losing Albert and sounds like the made the deal to tr and win now before potentially he and Carpenter etc…..are gone.

  26. GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    They aren’t trading betances for a 36 year old rental like Kuroda…a player that will cost upwards of $7 mil and no draft picks.

  27. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Wave,

    What are you giving up for Ubaldo?

  28. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Wave Your Hat,

    Bedard isn’t even a shade of his former self. He’s been a train wreck with injuries and is no better than anyone we currently have. He’s exactly the same as Kuroda only with a ridiculous injury history.

    Unless they’re getting a stud 1 or 2 type starter, there is absolutely no point in dealing for a pitcher when they have a guy like Nova capable of stepping in if/when a player is injured or whatever else.

  29. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    If Betances is traded it’ll be for Danks or Ubaldo or some other top guy that’s off the radar.

  30. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    It’s a real shame that the Yankees are even in the position of having to trade top prospects for the Kuroda’s and Ubaldo’s of the world. Betting on Cliff Lee and Pettitte’s return was a fail and nothing substantive was done to recover from that. Cashman caught lightening in a bottle with Colon and Garcia but that likely won’t get us to the promised land and the Yankees know that; hence the full court press to find a number two type starting pitcher.

  31. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Blake-

    GM John Mozeliak[googled spelling] should be very worried!!

    Today’s trade predictions:

    Hiroki Kuroda traded to Tigers
    Carlos Quentin traded to the Phillies
    Heath Bell traded to the Rangers

    Rumors will intensify that the Reds are backing off from trading for Jimenez and the Yankees are closing in on an agreement. Will the names be leaked?

  32. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    NYYrumors

    #Yankees and #Rockies agree on #Montero, disagree on rest of package for #Jimenez. Pat M. told me. Who’s Pat M. you ask? That’s a secret.

    4 minutes ago via web

  33. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Trader,

    The Sox are gonna add a starter…..especially with the news on Butholtz. Wandy, Kuroda, or Bedard…..

    I think the Yanks will hold the line on Ubaldo…..the Rockies may cave…..they may not. Id be trying to pry Danks away from Kenny Williams.

  34. GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    Jesus…The West Coast Drama Queen returns with her Dooms Day pronouncements.

  35. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    West Coast,

    You’re exactly right.

    Only problem is that very few #2 starters exist in the rumor mill excepting Ubaldo. And I think a trade for him is a bad move on the Yankees part unless they get him cheap which obviously won’t be the case.

    Unless they can get someone like Felix (unavailable) or Danks (this is the ideal guy IMHO), there is no point in dealing for a starter. Unless Cashman gets all secretive and pursues someone who hasn’t been mentioned.

  36. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    I think the Kuroda stuff is an attempt to smoke the Rockies out…….

  37. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 11:25 am
    MaineYankee,

    How so?

    —————————————————————–

    Hope Week.

    Only a hater could read about what their doing and not be impressed.

  38. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    blake,

    Let the Sox add someone, who cares? None of those guys are difference makers and they’ll cost Boston prospects.

    Wandy is in the NL Central now. He’ll fail miserably in the AL, let alone the East. Kuroda is decent, but not a difference maker and Bedard will get injured, count on it.

  39. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    LGY-

    I give Montero, one of the Bs, Noesi or one of those AAA starters the Yanks won’t bring up and a B prospect minor leaguer of the Rox’ choosing.

  40. bruceb July 28th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    It’s a real shame that the Yankees are even in the position of having to trade top prospects for the Kuroda’s and Ubaldo’s of the world. Betting on Cliff Lee and Pettitte’s return was a fail and nothing substantive was done to recover from that. Cashman caught lightening in a bottle with Colon and Garcia but that likely won’t get us to the promised land and the Yankees know that; hence the full court press to find a number two type starting pitcher.

    In my view, it’s better to do nothing than make a panic move for an average or slightly-better-than-average pitcher. The two questions I would pose are these:

    Are we going to make the playoffs if we don’t sign another pitcher? Probably, unless both the Rangers and Angels finish the season strongly and we go on another prolonged slump.

    Are we going to win the AL East if we do sign another pitcher (even if it’s Jimenez)? Probably not, as our offense still doesn’t match up to the Red Sox this year.

    Either way, we aren’t going to overtake the Red Sox and the Phillies as favorites to reach the World Series.

  41. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Mr. Rasmus’ parting shots

    “Evidently Tony (La Russa) has absolutely made that stuff up. He’s got it on the brain. If I was working with my son I’d tell people.

    “Tony needed pitching and wanted to force the GM into making a trade, so he belittled Colby to the fans.”

    Besides adding right-handed starter Edwin Jackson, who the Jays had acquired from the White Sox earlier Wednesday, the Cards added relievers Marx Rzepczynski and Octavio Dotel from the Jays.

    “Tony would like to have 25 pitchers,” Tony Rasmus said, “like he thinks he has to put his stamp on every ball game. They had nothing else to trade. I think everyone is better off now.”

    http://www.torontosun.com/2011.....1;la-russa

  42. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    The White Sox are 3 games back…..very winnable division.

  43. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am
    I think the Kuroda stuff is an attempt to smoke the Rockies out??.

    *********************

    Did you learn this on your top secret mission playing Woodward and Bernstein? ;)

  44. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    It’s a real shame that the Yankees are even in the position of having to trade top prospects for the Kuroda’s and Ubaldo’s of the world. Betting on Cliff Lee and Pettitte’s return was a fail and nothing substantive was done to recover from that. Cashman caught lightening in a bottle with Colon and Garcia but that likely won’t get us to the promised land and the Yankees know that; hence the full court press to find a number two type starting pitcher.

    ——————————————————————————————

    So what other option was out there after Lee and Pettite?

  45. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    When is Seattle going to acknowledge that they have no choice but to go into full-blown rebuilding mode?

    They can get a big-time jump start on that by trading a guy like Felix, who most teams would give up the farm for.

    I think its a bad business decision on their part to keep him, regardless of how awesome he is. They have Pineda and could get a boatload of young talent and major league ready arms.

    Oh well. Sooner or later Felix will be dealt. Its inevitable.

  46. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    West Coast, You’re exactly right.

    Only problem is that very few #2 starters exist in the rumor mill excepting Ubaldo. And I think a trade for him is a bad move on the Yankees part unless they get him cheap which obviously won’t be the case.

    Unless they can get someone like Felix (unavailable) or Danks (this is the ideal guy IMHO), there is no point in dealing for a starter. Unless Cashman gets all secretive and pursues someone who hasn’t been mentioned.

    ****************

    Hoping that your last sentence is prophetic. It’s been known to happen. The Yankees can shut the rumor vault tightly, “when they want to”. i.e., Eiland’s firing and Burnett’s black eye.

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Jesus Montero
    Phil Hughes
    Dellin Betances
    Manuel Banuelos
    Ivan Nova
    Hector Noesi
    Austin Romine
    Eduardo Nunez
    ///

    Wow, Great rotation right there, unsightly offense from the catching tandem, & a good hitting SS.

    That team could win some games.

  48. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    They’re not trading Danks although I see them moving Quentin + Thornton for a starting pitcher.

  49. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    MaineYankee,

    Totally agree. The Yanks are definitely the most charitable organization out there

  50. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Mad Prince,

    I don’t care if they add one of those guys……I just think they will.

    Wave,

  51. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Wave

    We are on the same page except I like Noesi better than Nova. Of course, preferably it will be neither guy and instead “one of those AAA starters the Yanks won’t bring up” ;)

  52. Mike Ri July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    #Yankees and #Rockies agree on #Montero, disagree on rest of package for #Jimenez. Pat M. told me. Who?s Pat M. you ask? That?s a secret.

    4 minutes ago via web

    —–

    Well at least we agree on something ! . . thats a start .

  53. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    I always wondered how Dave Eiland’s old ass could kick the crap out of Burnett twice. Burnett must’ve been totally sauced.

  54. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan,

    Other then getting Haren last year which i wanted what else could they have done?

  55. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Mr. Rasmus’ parting shots

    ======================

    While LaRussa isn’t all clean in this (neither is Rasmus, IMO), the man would do his son a world of good by shutting his pie hole.

  56. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    bruceb,

    I agree, unless its a bigtime difference making SP.

    Might as well stand pat, use Nova if anyone wears out or gets injured, and focus on winning the East or Wild Card.

    Take your chances with what you got, however slim they are.

  57. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Erin,

    That’s classified.

    Wave,

    That’s a lot to give.

  58. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    So what other option was out there after Lee and Pettite?

    ************

    I have no idea, I would imagine many pitchers if the price is right. Fans don’t know half of what gets discussed behind the scenes.

  59. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Hmmm. That would make a nice tweet.

  60. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Blake-

    Better not waffle on the players going to the Rockies for the great Ubaldo, he of the 2-3mph, loss of velocity. If you add Montero, you’ve folded!!
    If Montero is included let the Rockies eat cake. I’m out.

    Betances as the centerpiece+ Nova as the major league ready pitcher they seek+ Corban Joseph+Romine is more than enough. In fact the Yankees might be the only players in the game if the Reds decide to opt out.

  61. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Wow, Great rotation right there, unsightly offense from the catching tandem, & a good hitting SS.

    That team could win some games.

    —————————

    For the Scranton Yankees, yes.

    The New York Yankees on the other hand will never trust all those young players.

  62. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    bruceb

    How many offenses would match up with the main rbi guy out?

    Take Gonzales off the RS for 6 wks and see how well they do.

  63. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    I think if the Yanks will put Betances and Montero in the deal then it’ll happen…..I wouldn’t do that though. Id take Montero out if Betances goes in…..if they refuse then fine.

  64. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Other then getting Haren last year which i wanted what else could they have done?

    =======================

    Not sure they should have let Nunez be the difference between having Lee and not having Lee.

  65. pat July 28th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    “It’s a real shame that the Yankees are even in the position of having to trade top prospects for the Kuroda’s and Ubaldo’s of the world. ”

    No one with any authority to actually execute a trade has said they would consider that. Only people who play GMs on a blog.

  66. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Trader,

    I wouldn’t do Montero unless it was pretty much straight up. Too many questions…..

  67. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    MaineYankee,

    1 difference. Agon is in his prime and Arod isn’t. Take Youkolis off would be a more apt comp to Arod.

    Even if Arod never got hurt the Sox still have a better offense. 4 out of their first 5 hitters are 300 hitters

  68. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    Executives perceive NYY are not close to doing anything at the moment. Talking Kuroda, but nobody knows if he’ll accept a deal.#trades
    10 seconds ago

  69. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan, Other then getting Haren last year which i wanted what else could they have done?

    *************

    Ouch! That’s always painful to hear about Haren. I believe we could have had him for Joba. You know, I don’t know what Cashman could have done, he’s the GM of the Yankees with a big checkbook and any GM will take his call. I have never thought fans or even the media need to come up with the deal. That’s the GM’s job and there are many pitchers out there. Who knows what happened.

    It’s possible that we could have scored a number one or two but Cashman was not willing to deal our prime trade chips. We’ll never know.

  70. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    blake-

    It is a lot to give, but the way I see it there’s no place for Montero long term, the Yanks will be over-cautious with Banuelos and Betances and it will probably be 2013 at least before they begin to make an impact, Jimenez could be the difference maker this year, the Yanks need starting pitching next year and it won’t be easy to get, and the Yanks won’t use their AAA pitching anyway.

  71. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Mell,

    and then Lee could have still walked away and went to Philly just like he did with Texas

  72. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    pat July 28th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    “It’s a real shame that the Yankees are even in the position of having to trade top prospects for the Kuroda’s and Ubaldo’s of the world. ”

    No one with any authority to actually execute a trade has said they would consider that. Only people who play GMs on a blog.

    **********

    True.

  73. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:55 am
    I think if the Yanks will put Betances and Montero in the deal then it’ll happen…..I wouldn’t do that though. Id take Montero out if Betances goes in…..if they refuse then fine.
    —————————–
    then fine………………….what? give them both or fine no deal?
    You’re starting to cave!! :)

  74. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    There is no way Cashman would deal a top prospect for Kuroda. He’s a marginal upgrade, he’s a rental, he doesn’t want to leave LA, and you get no draft picks for him.

  75. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Trader,

    Fine = no deal.

  76. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am
    MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    So what other option was out there after Lee and Pettite?

    ************

    I have no idea, I would imagine many pitchers if the price is right. Fans don’t know half of what gets discussed behind the scenes.

    ——————————————————————————–

    But you call it a failure because he didn’t get those 2 even though you have stated you don’t know who else was available.

  77. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    jonmorosi Jon Morosi
    At last, the Carlos Beltran deal is official. He is a Giant. #Mets #SFGi

  78. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 28th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Bret,

    You’re probably right…with them trading Jackson yesterday, I don’t see them dealing Danks to when they’re only 3 games back.

    Its a pipe dream, but he’s one of the few logical guys to try and deal for if we’re dealing for an SP.

    I want no part of Ubaldo.

  79. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan,

    I agree with everything you said so I think its unfair to say there were other options available instead of Lee and Andy. Nobody knows

  80. Joe from Long Island July 28th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Mad Prince – the situation in Seattle reminds me of a woman my wife knows.

    This lady is divorced, so she’s on her own, and trying to start a small business.

    She’s in debt, and has nearly run out of cash. She’s having trouble finding an apartment, because she can’t meet the security deposits and first month rent up front.

    But, she does have a really nice car, a Mercedes she got from her ex, as part of the divorce settlement.

    So, my wife asked her why she didn’t just sell the Mercedes to get some cash, to alleviate some of her problems and give her business a jump start. But, she refuses to do that, because “it’s such a nice car, I could never let it go. Besides, I might need a really good car one day.”

    I wonder if she’s related to Jack Z?

  81. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Wave,

    Being super cautious with pitching prospects and going slowly with them is how the Rays got where they are….

  82. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    WCYF,

    Good point about next year. It won’t be any easier to add starters next year. Colon and Garcia will likely move on and sign multiyear deals (2 years probably) elsewhere for big bucks in a pitching thin market.

    That’s why it’s imperative the Yankees add a #2 now who can help them compete this year, next and beyond.

    The only guys who fit the bill are Jimenez now or Gio in the off season. And there’s no guarantee Beane will put up Gio this offseason.

    White Sox will have 4 starters next year INCLUDING Danks.

    They’re not moving him.

  83. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    “Being super cautious with pitching prospects and going slowly with them is how the Rays got where they are….”

    You mean 8.5 games back of the wild card?

  84. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle

    I think you’re selling ARod short comparing him and Youk.

  85. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    and then Lee could have still walked away and went to Philly just like he did with Texas

    ===========================

    Sure. Could have happened that way. Also could have been part of #28 and found himself enjoying it so much that he opted to stay. He went with devil he knows over the devil he doesn’t….and Texas. Had he had the opportunity to play in NYC, no telling whether his free agency might have played the way it did or some other way.

  86. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Bret The Hitman,

    CJ Wilson will be available who I strongly want the Yankees to acquire if they stand pat now. Weaver might become available and Yu Darvish might be posted so there are other options

  87. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    “You mean 8.5 games back of the wild card?”

    No….having a pitching staff about 7 deep that if the Yankees had they would win 110 games with.

  88. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Betances is on pace to throw 120 innings this season.

    He will be part of the Yankee rotation in no time :roll:

  89. pat July 28th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    “Executives perceive NYY are not close to doing anything at the moment.”

    Cash sitting in a dunk tank talking on his cell phone making trades is a good visual.

  90. bruceb July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:54 am
    bruceb

    How many offenses would match up with the main rbi guy out?

    Take Gonzales off the RS for 6 wks and see how well they do.

    We weren’t matching up to them with A-Rod in the lineup. They have five players averaging over .300, we have none (unless you include Chavez). Obviously a fit and healthy A-Rod would make a difference but let’s not forget that we are 1-8 against the Sox this year and I believe A-Rod played in most of those games.

  91. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    MaineYankee,

    Arod is basically a 30/100 type guy now which is basically where Youk is when healthy

  92. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    pat July 28th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    ?Executives perceive NYY are not close to doing anything at the moment.?

    Cash sitting in a dunk tank talking on his cell phone making trades is a good visual.

    **********************

    OMG….classic. :lol:

  93. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    For the Scranton Yankees, yes.

    The New York Yankees on the other hand will never trust all those young players.
    ///

    The manager has over rated catcher defense to the point where Montero is possibly out the door.

    It’s stomach churning how cavalier the Yankees apparently are regarding their non-pareil hitting prospect, as they watched Alex Rodriguez turn 36 & look forward to an important divisional series in Boston without him.

    Girardi could basically screw the Yankees’ future for the next few years by his anal, sanctimonious, self-regarding BS on “catcher defense.” The Red Sox have a complete idiot behind the plate, yet we can’t “risk” Montero’s great bat.

    Please. If this kid survives the TD & isn’t up by 3:05 on Sunday, these people running this show are out of their minds.

  94. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle

    I think you’re selling ARod short comparing him and Youk.

    ——————–

    Youk is having a better season offensively.

  95. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    “No….having a pitching staff about 7 deep that if the Yankees had they would win 110 games with.”

    I was just kidding you blake. Should have put a winkie at the end.

  96. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Triple,

    CJ Wilson is too pricey. I think adding him limits Cashman’s ability to round out the roster. I want no part of Japan so Darvish is out.

    Jared Weaver would be nice but I doubt he commits to NY after how the fans devoured his brother.

  97. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    I think instead of moving Quentin or Thornton the White Sox are more likely going to try to find takers for Alex Rios or Jake Peavy between now and Saturday afternoon.

    If it didn’t cost the Yankees anything more than a Kevin Whalen/Chris Dickerson type of guy I wouldn’t mind picking either/both of those guys up. Or maybe take back one to get them to include a very good player along with him.

    Granted, their contracts stink – Peavy’s got another $17 mil due next year and Rios is just a contractual disaster but I think both could be useful players for the Yankees.

    I know that a lot of you completely disagree with my view on the Yankees adding those kinds of contracts so this will by no means be a popular suggestion.

  98. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    No to Peavy.

  99. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    The Yankees have to get Yu Darvish before the Red Sox do. Free Yu Darvish!

  100. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    For the Scranton Yankees, yes.

    The New York Yankees on the other hand will never trust all those young players.
    ///

    The manager has over rated catcher defense to the point where Montero is possibly out the door.

    It’s stomach churning how cavalier the Yankees apparently are regarding their non-pareil hitting prospect, as they watched Alex Rodriguez turn 36 & look forward to an important divisional series in Boston without him.

    Girardi could basically screw the Yankees’ future for the next few years by his anal, sanctimonious, self-regarding BS on “catcher defense.” The Red Sox have a complete idiot behind the plate, yet we can’t “risk” Montero’s great bat.

    Please. If this kid survives the TD & isn’t up by 3:05 on Sunday, these people running this show are out of their minds.

    ——————

    But how do you really feel about it?

  101. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    But you call it a failure because he didn’t get those 2 even though you have stated you don’t know who else was available.

    ************

    I think it was a fail to not consider the possibility that you would get neither Lee or Pettitte and not have a plan B. I never said it would be easy but, that is the way leadership works. It’s his job to get things done.

  102. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Wave,

    I know….im just saying. I want Ubaldo…..I just have enough concerns that Id be hesitant to go all out to get him.

  103. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    No to Peavy.

    —————-

    What if the White Sox said “we’ll give you Danks but you have to take back Rios too” do you do it?

  104. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Alex Rios? Chip, have you had any concussions recently?

  105. G. Love July 28th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    At this point going back to last year’s deadline and not poying up for Lee and Haren is pointless. The Yankees, in my eyes, evaluated the situation they were facing very wrong. Couting on Lee as a free agent and Pettitte coming back was as foolhardy as counting on Hughes to be a #2 starter this season.

    That said, right now they face a major dilemma and a chance to improve their pitching for the future with Ubaldo. LGY has posted enough stats to show you how Ubaldo compares to Lester over the past 600 plus innings and Ubaldo pitches in Colorado.

    The Yankees should not deal Banuelos. He’s young. He’s a lefty. What I saw of him in the spring was pretty great.

    That said, Betances should be in the deal. He’s almost Hughes’ age. He will not be able to throw 200 innings in the rotation next season. That means the first time he’ll be able to be a real member of the rotation is 2013. At that point, he’ll be 27 or so. If he has another setback or injury it could mean the timetable gets delayed further than that.

    I would deal Betances now for Ubaldo.

    When it comes to Montero, I’m not convinced we should put him in the deal.

    That said, either 1 of Montero or Romine should be dealt. Martin is going to be our starter going forward. You have to be blind to not see the Yankees love him and his intangibles.

    Personally, I would deal Romine as I think Martin will get the lion’s share of the starts and Romine profiles as a starting catcher.

    With Murphy and Sanchez in the minors, the Yankees will still have catching depth.

    And if Montero’s bat is what we’ve all been told, he’ll be our DH, back up C and sometime 1b for years to come.

    I think Cashman has to give up Betances, Romine and offer Hughes, Nova, Noesi and any other prospects that the Rockies want to try to get Ubaldo.

    If he can keep Montero & Manny out of the deal it’s a no brainer.

    If he trades Montero, after other teams have taken their #1 prospect off the table in talks, it could turn out to be a bad deal.

    That said, I really think Montero is gone by Sunday night. I think the front office is stubborn in looking at their roster and saying Arod/Jeter need to DH and Tex is our 1b and we don’t have at bats for Montero now that we’ve found Martin.

    I really think Montero will be in Colorado by Sunday night. The Yankees devotion to Jeter, Posada and the ridiculous extension Arod got is going to cost this team Montero as much as the need for a top young starter.

  106. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    “The Yankees have to get Yu Darvish before the Red Sox do. Free Yu Darvish!”

    This sounds familiar…..having flashbacks of gyroballs and posting fees.

  107. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Youk is having a better season offensively.
    ===================

    Some crazy H/R splits for Youkilis this year. Has 7 homers and around 35 RBI both home and away, but is nearly .500 (that’s right .500!!!!) OPS points lower on the road.

  108. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    LGY,

    I think you meant to send that to MaineYankee

  109. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Chip,

    No. Kenny Williams is stuck with Rios, Dunn and Peavy.

  110. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Question-

    If the Yankees trade for a lefty might they become the #3 after CC and Colon in the playoffs? especially against the Red Sox where A. Gonzalez, Ellsbury, crawford, Drew hit lefties at a lower BA or the Rangers with Moreland, Hamilton, Murphy. I didn’t include Ortiz because he’s juiced and hitting lefties well!!

    If that’s the case is there a buy low lefty worth a shot? Nats John Lannon? others?

  111. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    WCYF

    I think it was a fail to not consider the possibility that you would get neither Lee or Pettitte and not have a plan B. I never said it would be easy but, that is the way leadership works. It’s his job to get things done.

    ——————————————————————————————————————–

    You say it was a fail without knowing what attempts were made to get a SP.

  112. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    I’m not sure I’m getting the John Danks’ love. What does an ERA+ trend line of 138-124-116-108 say to you?

  113. GreenBeret7 July 28th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    jimcallisBA Jim Callis

    Good question. But who’s truly on market worth dealing him for? @utrmhefferan: Will Jesus Montero remain a Yankee this season?

    Is Jimenez really on the market, though? Can’t really see #Rockies dealing him.

  114. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    If the Yankees would eat Rios contract to sit on the bench and suck then sign me up…..but its not my money to.play with.

  115. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    Alex Rios? Chip, have you had any concussions recently?

    —————–

    Consider it a theoretical question – would you take back a contract that bad if it got you a really good player without having to part with a top prospect.

  116. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm
    Triple Short of a Cycle

    I think you’re selling ARod short comparing him and Youk.

    ——————–

    Youk is having a better season offensively
    —————————————————————————

    If you had a choice who would you take?

  117. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    You say it was a fail without knowing what attempts were made to get a SP.

    ************

    Exactly right. Because results are what count. The bottom line is that a long time ago Lee and Pettitte disappeared from the radarscreen. Yet here we are, the beginning of August with serious concerns about the rotation.

  118. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
    Betances is on pace to throw 120 innings this season.

    He will be part of the Yankee rotation in no time
    ///

    The point is his arm is great, not that he has to conform to some arrival time that you prescribe for him. He could get outs right now in the majors. If they move him, they’re stupid, but it’s not like they haven’t done stupid things before.
    ////

    Anyone else here going to Trenton game tonight? The mice will be scurrying & pointing their radar guns, ho!

  119. Warning Track Power July 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    So did a Yankee get traded today that is worth mentioning?
    HAHAHA

  120. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    The reason why the Sox offense has been better than the Yankees.

    -Salty/Varitek have been a lot better than Martin/Cervelli.
    -AGon has been a lot better than Tex
    -Pedroia has been better than Cano
    -Youk has been better than Alex

    David Ortiz has been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jorge

    I definitely did not expect the Yankees to be worse at all those positions, particularly how big the advantage is at some of them.

    Definitely not Pedroia > Cano!

  121. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    G love,

    I agree with your post and the package you proposed for Ubaldo I would do…..but Betances is only 23 so he’d be more like 25 in 2013.

  122. Bronx Jeers July 28th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    After seeing the video of that moon shot he hot last night Im inclined to chain myself to the Montero tree.

  123. Triple Short of a Cycle July 28th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    I can’t believe I just saw a 9/11 truther commercial on TV just now

  124. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    If you had a choice who would you take?

    ________________

    Well, at this point in their respective careers, Youk is about five years younger, makes around 20M less every year, puts up very similar offensive numbers, and can move to first at any point, and will be a free agent in a couple years and not 7.

    Umm.

  125. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    Chip, I don’t see the point of taking Alex Rios just to add a #4 starter I’m not that crazy about anyway.

  126. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    Triple,

    My bad. I just copied Maine’s whole post.

    Mell,

    Holy crap. His home/road splits are insane!

  127. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Losing at the catcher position is absurd, I thought Tex could match A-gon in OPS in a healthy year (I didn’t expect A-gon to hit .350 or Tex to hit .240, Tex has a big advantage in isoD and ISO but its getting killed by A-gon just destroying everything), I thought Cano would out perform Pedroia and A-rod would match or beat Youkilis. Jorge I didn’t think would out perform Ortiz but keep it close enough.

    Where I thought the yankees had a huge advantage was outfield. Gardner-Granderson-Swisher > Crawford-Ellsbury-Drew which is true in aggregate but not as good as it should have been.

    I guess the pessimists are right sometimes.

  128. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    G.Love-

    Good post. Hope your wrong about Montero being gone unless another 8 player trade is made to include Tulowitski!!!

    Hughes would really suffer in Coors. He is a very buy low trade chip and I’d be surprised if he gets moved.

  129. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    G. Love,

    I’m not so sure the Yankees will lose Montero due to some stubborn desire to keep open DH for AROD/Jeter. I think you’re overestimating the loyalty factor. Posada caught for 15 years and they didn’t hesitate to move him off his position. That’s just smart baseball not blind loyalty.

    So why no Montero for DH?

    It could be that those DH bats are not available because they want to sign Jose Reyes and move AROD or Jeter to DH.

    It could be that they want to sign Prince Fielder to compensate for the aging out of the middle of the order with AROD and Tex injury prone and streaky.

    Without knowing the Yankees true plans for DH, it’s hard to say whether or not they could accommodate Jesus Montero at that spot if he’s not going to catch ahead of Russell Martin.

  130. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Im really afraid that if Montero goes to Colorado then we will be sitting here in 2 years bitter about how we let him go unless Ubaldo helped them win a WS or two. Keep him out of the deal Cash!

  131. Against All Odds July 28th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    Bronx Jeers July 28th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    After seeing the video of that moon shot he hot last night Im inclined to chain myself to the Montero tree

    ——————————-

    He’s heating up

  132. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Face,

    And it’s not even particularly close at catcher!

    .330 wOBA vs .308 wOBA

    .753 OPS vs .665 OPS.

  133. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    According to Pat M., Jesus Montero IS in the deal. It’s the complimentary pieces that are holding up a deal.

    Fans struggling with that possibility. Dang.

  134. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Definitely not Pedroia > Cano!

    =====================

    Definitely has been this year, but in general, NO!

  135. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    If you had a choice who would you take?

    ________________

    Well, at this point in their respective careers, Youk is about five years younger, makes around 20M less every year, puts up very similar offensive numbers, and can move to first at any point, and will be a free agent in a couple years and not 7.

    Umm.

    ———————————————————————————————————————————

    So what team is Youk playing first for?

  136. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:25 pm

    Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:19 pm
    Chip, I don’t see the point of taking Alex Rios just to add a #4 starter I’m not that crazy about anyway.

    —————-

    Forget the names and deal with the concept.

    Would you be willing to take on a massive contract if it got you a really good player without parting with a top prospect yourself?

    Another example would be taking on the contract of Vernon Wells to get Jared Weaver or Carlos Lee to get Hunter Pence or Soriano to get…well the Cubs don’t actually have any good players…but you get the point.

  137. pat July 28th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    “…..not having a Plan B..”

    Colon/Garcia was Plan B and Plan B has been pretty darn effective.

  138. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    Montero is just not as valuable as a DH. You can sign some pretty good hitters at DH for not much money, so you are only getting the excess of Montero’s hitting over pretty good hitting, which you have to discount by the risk that Montero’s hitting won’t be any more than pretty good. Plus, ARod is going to have to be moved to DH sooner or later, hopefully later but there’s certainly a risk of it being sooner, at which point Montero would have to go anyway since first is otherwise occupied for the indefinite future.

  139. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    “Would you be willing to take on a massive contract if it got you a really good player without parting with a top prospect yourself?”

    No.

  140. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Plan B is gone next year.

    Then what?

    CC
    AJ
    Hughes
    Nova
    Noesi

    ????

    Fat chance.

  141. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    So what team is Youk playing first for?

    ________________

    You’re missing the point. I’m not saying he is, I’m saying he could. At any point, he can move to first and this team loses very
    little defensively.

  142. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Jerkface-

    If Tex was on the Red Sox maybe he’d learn to hit the other way
    and pound doubles off the green monster from the left side? No?

  143. Warning Track Power July 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    Buster Olney reporting this morning on ESPN that the Yankees
    are getting a lot closer to trading for Kuroda from the Dodgers.
    Dodgers have yet to approach Kuroda about a trade, but the Yankees like what they have
    seen so far and if an offer is made, Kuroda has to approve the trade.

    IMO, I would rather have him vs Jimenez because I believe the price won’t be as high.

  144. G. Love July 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm

    blake,

    I thought Betances was 24 already or something?

  145. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    Mell,

    Holy crap. His home/road splits are insane!

    ====================

    Yeah they are. Only been that way this year though, so I’d say it’s a blip. Career is like .922 in Boston and a little over .850 away.

  146. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:29 pm

    G. Love

    Good post. I’m on board with a Nova, Betances, Romine for Ubaldo deal. Would I love it? Maybe not at first, but when Ubaldo is here, slotting in behind CC – yeah, I would be on board.

  147. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    I also think that part of the “taking on bad contracts” argument is that NY has no real clue what they’re going to pay CC this offseason. If CC wins his 20/21 games and dominates the playoffs, could he be the first guy to demand 30M?

  148. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Warning Track Power July 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    Buster Olney reporting this morning on ESPN that the Yankees
    are getting a lot closer to trading for Kuroda from the Dodgers.
    Dodgers have yet to approach Kuroda about a trade, but the Yankees like what they have
    seen so far and if an offer is made, Kuroda has to approve the trade.

    IMO, I would rather have him vs Jimenez because I believe the price won’t be as high.

    —————————————–

    Nor would the return. Kuroda thrives in a weak offensive division loaded with huge, pitcher friendly parks. Putting him in the best division in baseball, one loaded with strong left handed hitters and hitter friendly parks would, in my opinion, be a disaster at any price.

  149. 86w183 July 28th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Youkilis has NEVER hit 30 HR in a season. He has 100 RBI exactly ONCE in his career.

    His BEST season is roughly the same (higher average, less power) than A-Rod’s AVERAGE season.

    and he’s 3 years, 8 months younger, not five years

  150. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    G. Love July 28th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
    blake,

    I thought Betances was 24 already or something?

    ———-

    He is.

  151. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    I repeat, Jesus Montero is IN the deal. The complimentary pieces are holding up the deal. Same situation as Montero for Lee last year.

    Are we stuck in the denial stage or something?

  152. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    I don’t think the Rockies want Romine. They like Wilin Rosario who is probably a better prospect than Romine.

    They want Montero so he can take over for Helton at 1B.

  153. G. Love July 28th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Trader,

    It makes me wonder why the Red Sox were so hot on Tex. Considering most of his at bats would be against RHP, he couldn’t hit the monster if he tried. He’d just be shooting for the RF stands. Against LHP he’d kill the monster but it just makes me wonder if he showed more opposite field power before he came here and has completely lost it. Boston ended up with the superior 1b/hitter who is perfect for their park. That was a clear case of their loss later turning into a big gain for them.

  154. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Having two 30M dollar players, a 25M in Tex, and so on could start to hamstring them, IMO. Yeah, it’s not much more than he makes now, but it’s also luxury tax money, so really it would be like 36M? That’s a little crazy, and has to be in the back of their minds.

  155. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    “If CC wins his 20/21 games and dominates the playoffs, could he be the first guy to demand 30M?”

    The way I see it, only the Yanks, Phillies and Rangers were in it for Lee. You have to think the Phillies would sit this one out, and the Yanks outbid the Rangers. So I don’t see the market for that. I think CC gets more years at the same or slightly more per annum than his current deal.

  156. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    If CC wins his 20/21 games and dominates the playoffs, could he be the first guy to demand 30M?

    ====================

    I’d guess it’s more likely an extension in length at around the same money he’s at now.

  157. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Montero is just not as valuable as a DH. You can sign some pretty good hitters at DH for not much money

    Who are these players and why would the Yankees sign them? I think Montero can catch, if not as a starter then certainly as a change of pace backup (good lord Jeff Mathis and Mike Napoli catch in the majors and they are terrible). Montero has value at DH.

    They aren’t signing Prince Fielder or Pujols to DH. Who from the scrapheap is going to beat Montero?

  158. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    pat July 28th, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    “…..not having a Plan B..”

    Colon/Garcia was Plan B and Plan B has been pretty darn effective.

    ********************

    That was a stop gap measure that has thankfully turned out better than was expected. But, as I and many others have pointed out, the concern is whether or not they stay healthy and effective all year – and the Yankees not having a number two type to match up with playoff teams.

  159. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Not only do the Rockies want Montero the Yankees have PUT Montero in the deal.

    Cripesakes.

  160. Mike Ri July 28th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    I repeat, Jesus Montero is IN the deal. The complimentary pieces are holding up the deal. Same situation as Montero for Lee last year.

    ——-

    i agree Brett

  161. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Of course the question about Kuroda is this: Are the Yankees looking to pick him up because they are about to deal either Hughes and/or Nova in a Ubaldo deal and feel that they need the extra rotation depth?

    CC
    Ubaldo
    Kuroda
    Colon
    AJ

  162. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    So what team is Youk playing first for?

    ________________

    You’re missing the point. I’m not saying he is, I’m saying he could. At any point, he can move to first and this team loses very
    little defensively.

    ——————————————————————————————————————

    Moving Youk to first under the present roster isn’t an option.

    You would be correct if they hadn’t just signed a potential MVP to a long term contract to play first.

    Even though Youk is 5 years younger he isn’t as good at third as he was in the past.

    He seems to be a bit slower to react to the ball.

  163. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    Not only do the Rockies want Montero the Yankees have PUT Montero in the deal.

    Cripesakes.

    ————

    according to whom?

  164. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Jerkface,

    You don’t know if the Yankees will pass on both Prince Fielder and Jose Reyes.

    It’s not like they will be spending money on a pitcher this offseason.

  165. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    Chip,

    F THAT

    Go back and read.

  166. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I repeat, Jesus Montero is IN the deal.

    Well if Pat M said it… :roll:

  167. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Betances born in March 1988. He’d be 25 in 2013 I believe.

  168. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    They want Montero so he can take over for Helton at 1B.

    But but 1st base…difficult….how can montero learn it…

  169. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    If you’re going to address another poster. Make sure you’re up to date with his/her posts.

    Makes for better conversation.

  170. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Youkilis has NEVER hit 30 HR in a season. He has 100 RBI exactly ONCE in his career.

    His BEST season is roughly the same (higher average, less power) than A-Rod?s AVERAGE season.

    and he?s 3 years, 8 months younger, not five years

    Okay, that’s fine. 3years 8 months. He also still has his own hip parts too, and going forward, if you feel ARod returns to his 2003-2009 seasons, more power to you. Or conversely, if you feel the offensive output of ARod demands 20M dollars or so more for the next six or seven years, you are functionally illiterate to the un-biased answer I gave. He said “who would you rather have”, which I interpret to mean, “who would be better for the future of the New York Yankees” (since that’s how I judge these scenarios), and I gave my answer.
    I’m sorry you don’t see the common sense in that answer.

  171. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    But but 1st base…difficult….how can montero learn it…

    —————

    Have randy hit groundballs at him

  172. Joe from Long Island July 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    My guess is that Buster Olney still has some of his old Yankees’ contacts from when he wrote for the Times.

    The question now is – does that leak accurately reflect the Yanks’ thinking, that Kuroda would be a valuable addition to the rotation, or is it misinformation, deliberately fed to Olney in order to prod Colorado about Jimenez?

    I believe there were stories from last winter that Cash was interested in Kuroda, but he signed with LA before the FA period.

    This GM stuff has all the makings of a LeCarre spy novel.

  173. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Jerkface,

    Not only did Pat M. say it but it makes sense because it would mirror EXACTLY what happened between Cashman and Jack Z last year for Lee and between Cashman and the Jays for Halladay.

    The Yankees have been willing to offer Jesus Montero for top rotation arms but the deals fall through when they refuse to include any top prospects with Montero.

    It’s called a pattern.

  174. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    Moving Youk to first under the present roster isn?t an option.

    You would be correct if they hadn?t just signed a potential MVP to a long term contract to play first.

    Even though Youk is 5 years younger he isn?t as good at third as he was in the past.

    He seems to be a bit slower to react to the ball
    ___________________________

    I agree on all counts. I was simply stating that Youk has the abililty to move there in a pinch, and not lose much defensively.
    And careful, it’s 3 years and 8 months, not five years.

  175. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    “If CC wins his 20/21 games and dominates the playoffs, could he be the first guy to demand 30M?”

    The way I see it, only the Yanks, Phillies and Rangers were in it for Lee. You have to think the Phillies would sit this one out, and the Yanks outbid the Rangers. So I don’t see the market for that. I think CC gets more years at the same or slightly more per annum than his current deal.

    —————

    Why would you assume Philly sits this one out?

    Roy Oswalt, Raul Ibanez, Jimmy Rollins and Brad Lidge are all free agents at the end of the year.

    Even if they bring back Rollins you’re still looking at some $40 million in money to play with. That’s more than enough to add CC to their rotation.

  176. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    I wanted Kuroda in the offseason, so did the yankees, they were stymied by Kuroda’s westcoast loyalties. I think New York would have been a compelling destination for Kuroda had he been on the open market. There is a japanese community there. Not going to beat the left coast but still.

  177. spidanyc July 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    So we know Montero is agreed upon by both sides in a deal for Ubaldo. With that said, Montero, Nova and Noesi for Ubaldo and call it a night. The Yankees gotta trade both Nova and Noesi as their value is at highest peak. With that deal, we get to keep, Banuelos and Betances, while getting a #2 starter.

  178. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Kuroda = triple wammy.

    NL

    Pitcher’s park

    Japanese

  179. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Betances born in March 1988. He’d be 25 in 2013 I believe

    ==========================

    I believe? Freakin’ dentists. Whenever math’s involved, there has to be a qualifier. ;)

  180. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Bret -

    The only people I see saying it are you and Pat – no offense – but you’re not exactly the wired in sources I would put my stock in (then again you still might have better info than Heyman)

  181. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    Thats racist. Bret you’d make an excellent conspiracy theorist.

  182. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    If they trade Montero for Ubaldo…..Ill live with it. Its just that if they haven’t won at least 1 WS by the end of 2013 you’ll have a 29 year old FA pitcher and the Rockies will have a 23 potentially middle if the order bat.

    The Yankees do have a WS window here and you have to consider that…but you aslo have to consider that Montero coukd be part of the next window.

  183. JobaTipsHisCap July 28th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
    Kuroda = triple wammy.

    NL

    Pitcher’s park

    Japanese

    yeah, totally agree

  184. 86w183 July 28th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Howard — I’m not arguing your common sense, just pointing out the gross misrepresentation someone put out there that Youkilis is basically a 30/100 guy… something he has never accomplished and is unlikely to accomplish at age 33 or higher.

    He’s never been a great offenisve player. He’s been a damn good one for six years.

    Right now, factoring in economics, health and age I would also take Youkilis over Alex.

  185. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Why would you assume Philly sits this one out?

    Roy Oswalt, Raul Ibanez, Jimmy Rollins and Brad Lidge are all free agents at the end of the year.

    Even if they bring back Rollins you’re still looking at some $40 million in money to play with. That’s more than enough to add CC to their rotation
    ============================================

    ‘Cause Hamels big payday is forthcoming.

  186. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Mell,

    I leaned a long time ago to never put absolutes on my math ;)

  187. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Howard

    And careful, it’s 3 years and 8 months, not five years

    ————————————————————————————-

    I didn’t fact check your numbers. :lol:

  188. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    For what it’s worth, this is from the local Dodgers Rumors blog in Los Angeles:

    “The Hiroki Kuroda sweepstakes are in full swing and I will be really disappointed if at least one high level prospect is not sent the Dodgers way. Good news, the Yankees intensified talks with the Dodgers today. This is great for the Dodgers as it will quickly increase the asking price because it seems the Yanks are willing to overpay for Kuroda just a little bit.”

  189. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Chip,

    There’s no doubt I have better information than Heyman. Don’t we all?

    Pat M. relays information to us and I’ve found most of it, if not all of it makes a ton of sense. His latest bit about the Rockies and Yankees being in disagreement about the complimentary pieces around Montero jibes with the negotiations where the Yankees offered Montero + little else for Halladay and then Lee.

    Do I think Pat M. just pulls stuff out of his ass like you or me? Nope. He was in baseball.

  190. Mike Ri July 28th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Yanks are willing to overpay for Kuroda just a little bit.?

    UGHHHHHHHHHHH i hope not !

  191. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Just looked over Kuroda’s split stats for his career and for 2011.
    He actually has been very good against lefties and righties, post all star,
    against many of the teams the Yankees would face in the postseason.
    Before you knock him look over the attached:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....e=Pitching

  192. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Reasons I like Kuroda: He doesn’t walk guys, he has near equal home/road splits, can strike guys out, veteran presence.

    I only needed to look at Ubaldo’s world series start against the red sox to see a portent of things to come (5 walks T_T)

    I’d trade Betances for him but not Montero.

  193. Warning Track Power July 28th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    The asking price from teams is just too damn high.
    These teams want MLB players and top prospects in return for “a rental”.
    Not worth it.

    Making a trade for the sake of getting on the board is not a smart move.

  194. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Kuroda = triple wammy.

    NL

    Pitcher?s park

    Japanese

    ___________________

    the first and third I agree with, as they are inarguable, but the middle one is complete fallacy. He pitches nearly exactly the same on the road, and away from LA as he does in LA.

  195. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Jerkface,

    There is no such thing as conspiracy, only blind unconscious greed.

    Ponder that.

  196. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
    Why would you assume Philly sits this one out?

    Roy Oswalt, Raul Ibanez, Jimmy Rollins and Brad Lidge are all free agents at the end of the year.

    Even if they bring back Rollins you’re still looking at some $40 million in money to play with. That’s more than enough to add CC to their rotation
    ============================================

    ‘Cause Hamels big payday is forthcoming.

    —————–

    And so?

    They can go to arbitration with Hamels this year and decide next year if they want to sign him to another long term deal (with Blanton’s money coming off the books) or let him go knowing that they have Lee, Halladay and CC in the rotation.

  197. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Why is some scout golfing with Pat M privy to what the GM of an organization he may or may not work for is up to? Sorry, like SJ44 I am skeptical of anyone saying they have inside track on anything.

    Especially if this ‘rival evaluator’ is anything like any sports reporter’s sources

  198. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Why on earth would you trade Betances for a guy you don’t need to make the postseason (Kuroda) and who isn’t a real difference maker in a playoff series……plus you get zip for him in 3 months.

  199. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    I didn?t fact check your numbers
    —————-

    Yeah, I didn’t either.. Someone else called me out on it.

  200. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    I would not be willing to part with anything other than a Lance Pendelton/Kevin Whalen type for Kuroda.

  201. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Sorry I meant I’d trade Betances for Ubaldo, not Kuroda. Kuroda is going to get like DJ mitchell.

  202. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Cause Hamels big payday is forthcoming

    You think they don’t sign CC because of Cole flippin Hammels? If they get CC, they let Cole walk all day long. He’s expendable if they get CC.

  203. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Andrew Marchand
    Yankees would consider giving up farm for a Felix Hernandez, but while they like Ubaldo, they r not going to overreach. #trades
    44 seconds ago via

    **********

    This sounds like more baiting. Yankees prodding Rockies.

    Exhibit A was Sherman’s tweet about the Yankees willingness to “PAY BIG” for Gio Gonzalez…an arm that the Rockies might project to become available in the offseason.

    Exhibit B is this Kuroda bunk

    Exhibit C is the Felix Hernandez plug

    Yankees honing in on Jimenez.

  204. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    JF,

    Oh…I see. Id trade Buddy Carlyle for Kuroda without hesitation ……wait do they even still have him?

  205. jacksquat July 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
    Not only do the Rockies want Montero the Yankees have PUT Montero in the deal.

    Cripesakes.

    And Cliff Lee was a “done deal”.

  206. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    As stated there is a big gap between ARod and Youk’s contracts.

    How big a gap is there in amount of revenue generated?

    Just curious what people think.

  207. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    You should put push pins in those tweets and connect them with string. Oh and don’t forget to put a picture of Ubaldo on the wall and circle it 50 times in dark red marker, and pee on the floor and line it with newspapers.

  208. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Jerkface,
    First Yu, now Kuroda. You wouldnt happen to be a Japanese agent would ya? In all seriousness. I like Kurodas consistency of the past 4 years. Im all for the trade knowing it would not cost us Montero to get.

    Do you think Hughes or Nova will be traded before the deadline.

    We need a BIG bat. Cash get-er done!! No more Posada and his 4 homeruns in 3 months batting 2 and a quarter. If we’re going to compete with the Sox. We need our lineup to do some damage. It starts with having a legit dh.

  209. blake July 28th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    The Yanks have been posturing on this Ubaldo thing for awhile now…..I think both sides are trying to decide if they want to make it happen or break it off.

  210. pat July 28th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    ” But, as I and many others have pointed out, the concern is whether or not they stay healthy and effective all year – ”

    Plan A’s get hurt and are uneffective too. There are no easy answers and absolutes just moving parts that you hope work well together and can pick up the slack.

    Fans need to cheer more and worry less.

  211. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Joba:

    Look at his stats at hitters parks. After I looked over his splits
    I’d be very happy if the Yankees swung a deal for him and kept
    Montero +the 2B’s.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/pl.....e=Pitching

  212. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Jerkface,

    You don’t need to get all emotional here.

    Just focus.

    Then you will be able to observe patterns.

  213. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    First Yu, now Kuroda. You wouldnt happen to be a Japanese agent would ya? In all seriousness. I like Kurodas consistency of the past 4 years. Im all for the trade knowing it would not cost us Montero to get.

    Japan is a well of talent that isn’t being properly tapped, mostly because of the hand shake with the NPB/posting fees. Can’t be scared of an entire race of people simply because of some high profile busts.

    I maintain that if the japanese populace was drafted/IFA’d into the MLB system at 16-18-23/24 you’d see a similar dispersion of talent equal to whites/dominicans/etc.

    Yu Darvish to me is a guy that’d succeed anywhere. He isn’t fat like Dice-K (who I still think would have done better outside of the red sox) and has been better than Dice-K in every way and the key stats like walks.

  214. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Please – no Bedard.

  215. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    Andrew Marchand
    Yankees would consider giving up farm for a Felix Hernandez, but while they like Ubaldo, they r not going to overreach. #trades
    44 seconds ago via

    **********

    This sounds like more baiting. Yankees prodding Rockies.

    Exhibit A was Sherman’s tweet about the Yankees willingness to “PAY BIG” for Gio Gonzalez…an arm that the Rockies might project to become available in the offseason.

    Exhibit B is this Kuroda bunk

    Exhibit C is the Felix Hernandez plug

    Yankees honing in on Jimenez.

    ——————-

    When you hear hoofbeats you think zebras instead of horses don’t you?

  216. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Just focus.

    Then you will be able to observe patterns.

    I think you might be describing tunnel vision.

  217. Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    How big a gap is there in amount of revenue generated?

    _____________

    Eh. You’re comparing how much money the Yankees make versus how much we’ll be complaining in two years if Alex continues the production decline he’s experienced lately. At 36ish, at that money, and for that offensive output, I don’t think how much money NY makes will factor into my frustration two or three years from now.

  218. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Are you sure about that? Or is that your tunnel vision doing the talking.

  219. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
    I didn?t fact check your numbers
    —————-

    Yeah, I didn’t either.. Someone else called me out on it.

    —————————————————————–

    It’s all good.

  220. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    The trade deadline falls on sunday… sunday the 31st! 31…31…Ubaldo makes 31 starts, starts, he is a starter, oh god it all makes sense! This goes to the highest level!

  221. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Yankee fans who don’t see the minors are at a real loss to make informed comparisons between prospects.

    The Yankees have NOTHING remotely close to the majors that are anywhere near the talent & upside of Betances, nor Banuelos. They also have nothing like those two guys in the lower levels.

    It’s probably better appreciated by the fanbase that Montero is way above anyone in the system in terms of hitting/hitting for power, but some of the comments that Romine would make up for his loos going forward would suggest otherwise. Sanchez is the only guy who could make up for his loss, but even he isn’t quite Montero & what’s more, he’s years away.

    My position is you don’t give up your handful of super elites, especially when they’re so close to contributing. You can give up the lesser guys who have nice upside, but giving up your top tier guys, especially when they’re upside is through the roof, is just foolish.

  222. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    I would keep Flores out of any Kuroda deal!

  223. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Are you sure about that? Or is that your tunnel vision doing the talking.

    This doesn’t make sense, you’re clearly the one with tunnel vision. As evidenced by your entire posting history.

  224. Against All Odds July 28th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    lol Bret wants Jimenez so badly

  225. Mell July 28th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    The Yanks have been posturing on this Ubaldo thing for awhile now…..I think both sides are trying to decide if they want to make it happen or break it off

    ==================

    Rockies don’t really need to bend on this at all. They actually probably could fare better marketing him in the offseason when more teams are apt to be involved. I think either the Yankees or someone else is going to pony up pretty big, or he stays a Rockie til at least the winter.

  226. tomingeorgia July 28th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    The nostalgia for Pettite brings to mind the characterization of Colon and Garcia as too old and cruising for an injury. Pettite is older than either of them, and has an injury history, too, in recent years. I wish he’d come back for one more, but we would be hearing the same thing about him if he had.

  227. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Jerkface,

    I’m going to leave you alone now. I can see there is some hypersensitivity when it comes to Montero. I won’t be stoking the fire. Trade deadline’s supposed to be fun for everyone. But dang, please drop the Kuroda stuff.

  228. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    John Flaherty was on with Kim and Malusis on WFAN this morning and they were comparing
    Granderson to Tex, I guess because both have 28 HRs. Flaherty said that Granderson is always trying
    to improve what he sees as flaws whereas Tex considers himself a slugger and doesn’t concern himself with BA. He
    apparently said that he’s being paid to drive in runs. Now, technically that’s true, but in reality the Yankees signed him
    to that huge, possibly burdensome deal because he was supposed to be a complete player

  229. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Joelsherman1 There has been no significant movement in Jimenez market, which means neither #Yankees #Redsox have blinked yet to give up ton #Rockies

  230. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Joel Sherman

    There has been no significant movement in Jimenez market, which means neither #Yankees #Redsox have blinked yet to give up ton #Rockies

    54 seconds ago via

  231. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    The hindsight talk of pettite as some kind of #2 or ace is really odd, because he has never been a beast these past few years for the Yankees. Just a nice dependable 110 ERA+ guy. And in his history he has been hit or miss in the playoffs (as any player with as much time in the postseason as he has would be, except Mo :twisted: )

    Still I’d like it if he were here, he is like a binky.

  232. Chip July 28th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Yankee fans who don’t see the minors are at a real loss to make informed comparisons between prospects.

    The Yankees have NOTHING remotely close to the majors that are anywhere near the talent & upside of Betances, nor Banuelos. They also have nothing like those two guys in the lower levels.

    It’s probably better appreciated by the fanbase that Montero is way above anyone in the system in terms of hitting/hitting for power, but some of the comments that Romine would make up for his loos going forward would suggest otherwise. Sanchez is the only guy who could make up for his loss, but even he isn’t quite Montero & what’s more, he’s years away.

    My position is you don’t give up your handful of super elites, especially when they’re so close to contributing. You can give up the lesser guys who have nice upside, but giving up your top tier guys, especially when they’re upside is through the roof, is just foolish.
    —————-

    A counter argument to that would be that fans who watch the minors still aren’t nearly as good at evaluating those players as are the people under the employ of the Yankees (or any other team in major league baseball)

    You might watch Betances every day but not have a clue as to what the Yankees feel about him or his ability to perform at the next level. They might see a guy with tremendous raw ability but a ten cent head like that of Ruben Rivera and think “there’s no way we can trust this cat going forward.”

    The point is that there is not a single one of us here who is qualified to make an educated judgement as to what this player or that player might be. We cannot say “this player SHOULD be in the majors and if he’s not then the team needs to fire the manager and GM” because you’re just not qualified to make that statement.

  233. blake July 28th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Darvish would be a good 6th inning guy, they already have 7th and 8th inning guys…..does he have a gyroball to get out lefties with?

  234. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    I’m going to leave you alone now. I can see there is some hypersensitivity when it comes to Montero. I won’t be stoking the fire. Trade deadline’s supposed to be fun for everyone. But dang, please drop the Kuroda stuff.

    Your hypersensitivity about Ubaldo notwithstanding, feel free to keep posting as you do. I will continue to suggest Kuroda as a good pickup, because he would be. You can continue flying your pie in the sky. Just don’t try selling it as a UFO.

  235. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Kuroda is not a difference maker……..

  236. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    Reasons I like Kuroda: He doesn’t walk guys, he has near equal home/road splits, can strike guys out, veteran presence.

    I only needed to look at Ubaldo’s world series start against the red sox to see a portent of things to come (5 walks T_T)

    I’d trade Betances for him but not Montero.

    ——————————————————————————————————

    This seems outside the norm for you.

    Will you tell me why you are concerned about one start 4 years ago?

  237. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Andrew Marchand

    If Yankees stick to this plan, I think it is right approach. I would give Montero up and lesser prospect for Ubaldo. #trades

    13 minutes ago

  238. Hassey July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Did Cashman have to raise his own debt ceiling to pay the $13 toll on the Verrazano Bridge to Staten Island?

  239. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    What do you guys think about maybe going after a guy like Wright. Im not sure what his contract is like. But assuming its reasonable and the Mets trying to resign Reyes. He would take most of the reps at third while we have Alex dh keeping him fresh and making sure we milk every last drop of his offensive gift. (if Wrights contract is big, then maybe the Mets could eat some of it.)

  240. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    We cannot say “this player SHOULD be in the majors and if he’s not then the team needs to fire the manager and GM”

    Oh oh does this also apply to people who say that if they don’t trade this player the manager / gm should be fired?

  241. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    BREAKING NEWS VIA JON HEYMAN TWEET:

    Jerkface has been dealt to the Bleacher Report for a rusty abacus and a 45 of Edwin Starr’s song, “War What Is It Good For – Absolutely Nothing.”

  242. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    NYYrumors

    Yanks official “Japan sucks”

    8 minutes ago

  243. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I just don’t see Jimenez being moved

    They are willing to overpay for Kuroda? Lord I hope not

  244. Erin July 28th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    New Post- Cashman: “I’m going to be hard-press to find anything better”

    :arrow:

  245. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    I’m going to leave you alone now. I can see there is some hypersensitivity
    when it comes to Montero. I won’t be stoking the fire. Trade deadline’s
    supposed to be fun for everyone. But dang, please drop the Kuroda stuff.
    —————————-
    Sorry Bret-

    But I and many others, not just Jerkface, don’t see the need to include
    your #1 offensive force in Montero for a #2 pitcher, with red flags swirling
    around him. Now if it were a trade
    for another young hitter OK.

  246. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Will you tell me why you are concerned about one start 4 years ago?

    Well I could post his current BB rate, or his career rate, I just don’t like guys that come to the AL already possessing high walk rates. Its not going to go down facing teams built to walk.

    I liked Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay, those guys don’t walk dudes. Ubaldo screams potential-AJ Burnett.

  247. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Howard July 28th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
    How big a gap is there in amount of revenue generated?

    _____________

    Eh. You’re comparing how much money the Yankees make versus how much we’ll be complaining in two years if Alex continues the production decline he’s experienced lately. At 36ish, at that money, and for that offensive output, I don’t think how much money NY makes will factor into my frustration two or three years from now.

    ——————————————————————————————————-

    Not saying your take is wrong but I try not to get all wrapped up in what the contracts are because it’s way above my pay grade.

  248. J. Alfred Prufrock July 28th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Chip, I don’t want to hear from people who compare this guy to Nova, who don’t know he’s not 25, etc.

    The Yankees GM has referred to him as the “best pitching prospect we’ve ever had here.” That good enough for ya? You don’t even bother to read scouting reports, I can tell by your comments you lack a real interest in knowing who’s who & what’s what in the system. Your fun is coming up with fantasy trades on players you actually see. That’s fine, you can be a baseball fan in any manner you choose. But don’t try to sell that vanilla stuff about “the Yankees are in a better position to determine…” when it’s all you’re offering on these guys.

  249. Wave Your Hat July 28th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    If you can get get Kuroda for spare change, sure, do it. But if you have to put any top talent in the deal it doesn’t make a lot of sense for another #3 pitcher.

  250. MaineYankee July 28th, 2011 at 1:14 pm

    Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Will you tell me why you are concerned about one start 4 years ago?

    Well I could post his current BB rate, or his career rate, I just don’t like guys that come to the AL already possessing high walk rates. Its not going to go down facing teams built to walk.

    I liked Cliff Lee or Roy Halladay, those guys don’t walk dudes. Ubaldo screams potential-AJ Burnett.

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    That explains your stand better.

    I didn’t think you would base it on such a small sample size.

  251. blake July 28th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    “Rockies don’t really need to bend on this at all. They actually probably could fare better marketing him in the offseason when more teams are apt to be involved. I think either the Yankees or someone else is going to pony up pretty big, or he stays a Rockie til at least the winter.”

    Nope they don’t…..but they’ve been in this for awhile. They’ve heard enough offers to know ballpark what they’ll get and they haven’t taken him off the market……I think they want to trade him now for whatever reason……

  252. hardwired7 July 28th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    What part of “Is owed $7.5M, offers no draft compensation in 2012 and is only slightly better than any number of their pitches, for example Ivan Nova” intrigues the Yankees about Kuroda?

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