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Jeter documentary looks like a hit

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 28, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I can’t imagine Yankees fans being disappointed by the documentary that just premiered on HBO.

The access was outstanding, going behind the scenes to show Jeter in the training room, in the batting cage, eating lunch with friends, driving to the ballpark. Cameras were everywhere, giving a real sense of the personality of an intensely private individual.

There were several memorable moments — Jeter getting instruction from Gary Denbo jumps to mind, so does the birthday cake from Billy Connors, and the fact Minka Kelly didn’t know what a hit was when she started dating Jeter — but did come away with one lingering question.

Does Jeter’s personalized handshake with Ramiro Pena really end with Pena doing a weird little dance?

By the way, during the congratulations at the end, Gene Monahan left no doubt why he’s so incredibly popular in the Yankees clubhouse. There might not be a more genuine person on the planet.

If you couldn’t watch it tonight, try to watch it at some point. It’s an hour well spent.

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136 Responses to “Jeter documentary looks like a hit”

  1. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    That was awesome!!!!!!!

  2. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Is this thing on HBOGO? I hope so, then I can watch it on my computer like in the matrix. Just scrolling code.

  3. LockDown July 28th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    I loved it :D

  4. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Beautiful documentary. A piece of Yankee history for those of us lucky to see him come up and contribute to the Yankees success for all these years. I doubt any of us will ever see another homegrown Yankee get 3000 hits, let alone a homerun for #3000. Very proud to be a Yankee fan.
    Kudos to you Derek.

  5. blake July 28th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Its DVR’d….I shall watch later.. will sabermetricians be exiled from the club for watching?

  6. Nick in SF July 28th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Is it okay to blame Martin for his own bat pretty much disappearing after a torrid April?

    He doesn’t have to be as good as he was for that month to be a big positive, but if he hits like he has since for the rest of this season and next (he’ll be back next year), Martin is no bridge to Gary Sanchez.

  7. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Catchers wear down. Look at Mauer. Obviously the Yankees like Martin’s skillset. There’s talent in there that’s been proven in the past and he’s only 27. This is Martin’s first season handling an entirely new staff in an entirely new league. He’s getting at least one more year.

  8. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    From April 25 to now: .196 .302 .280 .583.

  9. mick July 28th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Jeter is real.
    That’s why he’s loved.

    Nothing phony about him.

  10. Against All Odds July 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    There need to be more Yankees features like that.

  11. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    He’s getting at least one more year

    No one is saying otherwise. And yea Mauer got HURT, but so did Martin, and Mauer is hitting well, better than Martin. And especially recently! .302 .375 .372 .747 since off the DL. Martin has already allowed more steal attempts and stolen bases than Mauer ever did in any season. And this one isnt even over yet!

  12. blake July 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    What’s Martins BABIP? He walks a fair amount as evidenced by his OBP being over. 100 points above his BA.

  13. JM July 28th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Great job by HBO. Although Jete looked more than a little bit uncomfortable at times. :)

  14. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Cut the crap Mick, all real fans care about is Jeter’s LD%

  15. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    He’s getting at least one more year

    No one is saying otherwise.

    ********

    Great, so we’ll talk about it one year from now. Romine is about 1 year away.

  16. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    What’s Martins BABIP? He walks a fair amount as evidenced by his OBP being over. 100 points above his BA.

    .231, which is .50 points under his BABIP the last 2 years. But he is also hitting more flyballs, which will drop BABIP because they don’t fall in for hits as much and a low LD%. He does have an above average HR/FB%, which is surprising that its still so high so far out from his hot start.

  17. mick July 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Like Minka I have no idea what a hit, make that , LD%, is.

  18. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Great, so we’ll talk about it one year from now.

    No, I’d rather continue talking about how the Yankees could help upgrade their catcher position, considering all my proposals include keeping Martin.

  19. mick July 28th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    although i am learning a little about bapip and war

  20. mick July 28th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Jeter oughtta keep Minka.

  21. Yank1 July 28th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal
    Both #Yankees, #RedSox scouted Harden today in Oakland.

  22. blake July 28th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    “231, which is .50 points under his BABIP the last 2 years. But”

    Aha! Bad luck……someone gets Russ a rabbits foot.

  23. blake July 28th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Ken_Rosenthal Both #Yankees, #RedSox scouted Harden today in Oakland.

    Are they looking for comprehensive collection of baseball injuries for med.students to study?

  24. Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Face…..If Montero is traded you’re going to be the boy who lost his dog…..You’re going to have to find something else to pontificate about for the next few years…..Then again you are most resourceful

  25. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    KC beat Boston.

  26. blake July 28th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Pat M,

    Any new gossip

  27. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Pat M. July 28th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Face…..If Montero is traded you’re going to be the boy who lost his dog…..You’re going to have to find something else to pontificate about for the next few years…..Then again you are most resourceful

    ********

    :lol:

  28. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    I pontificate about a great many things. Trading Montero doesn’t absolve Martin of his terribleness. Just means the solution will be different.

  29. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Dibsies on Gary Sanchez.

  30. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    harden??? ***facepalm****

  31. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Blake-
    Harden pitched well today-1 hit no runs thru 5 , then single and homer for Desmond Jennings in the 6th, his final inning-another quality start. Could he be what injury prone Kerry Wood was for the Yankees last year?

  32. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Laugh it up fuzzball,

    You’re the boy who lost his dog every trade deadline and hot stove :) Which makes us both resourceful.

  33. Yank1 July 28th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    BobKlap
    #Mets said Santana was at 89-90, with a “slight” dip in 3rd inning

    —————–

    He’s been spending too much time with Phil Hughes ;)

  34. njsketch July 28th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    in all honesty i would rather give up lesser prospects for someone like harden or bedard than give up the farm for jimenez. if healthy, those two can be a pretty good #2 sandwiched between cc and colon.

  35. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    My dog is sitting right here next to me. :lol:

    Maybe you should get one.

  36. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    I have 4 dogs. Actually, but you know that its a metaphor which fits you to a T. Or were you not the one screaming that Cashman was a p-word because he didn’t sign/trade everyone you wanted? :twisted:

  37. Nick in SF July 28th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Bret, can you switch to cheaper dog food for your pal and send me my $25?

  38. blake July 28th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    Jared (NJ)

    Keith, Mason Williams has really impressed me this year. I know you said that you think he will fill out so my question is if he does, what type of player can he be

    Klaw (12:36 PM)

    Talked to another scout who saw that club last week -he loved Williams too, raved about Gumbs’ bat speed although it’s his only real tool, and was down on Culver (mostly his LH swing). I think Williams has a chance to be … actually, the player I think Colby Rasmus will be. Hits for average, runs well, plays good D in CF, hits maybe 20-25 HR.

  39. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Oh good we don’t need Rasmus then, we can just use Gardner as the bridge to Rasmus-2 since his offense can be covered by Cano.

  40. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Bret-

    Who else besides the Reds, who keep falling further back in the central are in and have the resources the Rockies want?

  41. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Yeah because 109 OPS+ = elite

    90 OPS+ = excommunication

  42. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Well you’d certainly want to get rid of a 90 ERA+ pitcher and keep a 109 ERA+ pitcher.

  43. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Yes, Cashman is a B*** for passing on Danny Haren.

  44. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    I mean its basically like Gardner is as good as Martin is bad. But you’re trying to spin that. It doesn’t spin. Its un-spinnable.

  45. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Oh no the angels got your dog :(

  46. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Passed on Soria, ended up with Soriano.

  47. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    I mean its basically like Gardner is as good as Martin is bad.

    *******

    ???

  48. Red Lobster July 28th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Who else besides the Reds, who keep falling further back in the central are in and have the resources the Rockies want?

    Reds – Yolando, Hamilton, Volquez, etc.
    Sox – Middlebrooks, Iglacius, Wieland
    Tigers – Jacob Turner, etc.
    Rangers – tons of prospects

    etc. etc.

  49. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Trader,

    The Rangers can probably put together something compelling for Jimenez.

  50. blake July 28th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Trader,

    It’s alWays a mirage with Harden…..has he ever not gotten hurt?

  51. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    I mean its basically like Gardner is as good as Martin is bad.

    *******

    ???

    Gardner is 10% better than average, Martin is 10% worse than average. Gardner is as good as Martin is bad.

  52. igotid88 July 28th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Usually this time of year I get excited for a possible trade. What good player we’ll get that’ll improve our team? But not this year. I’m scared I’ll get a text or come here and read a headline I wouldn’t like.

  53. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    The Rangers can probably put together something compelling for Jimenez.”

    Yup….they could if they so chose and I wouldn’t be shocked to see them jump in.

  54. kd July 28th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    actually i’ve been wondering about the rangers. they got lee for not that much. they always want to make a splash and they can keep jiminez for a while.

  55. ron July 28th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    If colorado drops the price for jimenez,wich is possible,i think cashman will trade montero & a few more players but not betances or banuelos.

    •The Yankees appear to have the best shot at Jimenez, but there are no indications that they will meet the Rockies’ asking price, according to Troy Renck of the Denver Post (on Twitter).

  56. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Bret-

    After they trade some of their elite prospects for Heath Bell, the Rangers could be out.

    Tigers interested in Kuroda and Jason Marquis. if they get one of them, could be out.

    Red Sox- Middlebrooks-isn’t he the one recuperating from ruptured cerebral aneurysm?

    If the Yankees are patient, while the other clubs use up their resources, either Jimenez will stay with Rockies which isn’t so bad because the Yakees then won’t see him in the playoffs or at worst go to the Reds who likely won’t make the playoffs.

  57. blake July 28th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Red Sox- Middlebrooks-isn’t he the one recuperating from ruptured cerebral aneurysm?”

    That was Ryan Westmoreland

  58. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Russell Martin Career OPS+ = 100

    Brett Gardner Career OPS+ = 97

    So I guess when you look at the largest sample possible (most statisticians do I would assume) you would conclude…

  59. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    Reds – Yolando, Hamilton, Volquez, etc.
    Sox – Middlebrooks, Iglacius, Wieland
    Tigers – Jacob Turner, etc.
    Rangers – tons of prospects

    ———————-

    One of these things is not like the others.
    One of these things just doesn’t belong.
    Can you tell me which thing is not like the others?

  60. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Totally forgot it was on, lol

    Pat M, not sure who Eddie G is, but no doubt Phil’s arm lacks “the juice” – there’s no life on his FB. This is what I was talking about when I mentioned the price the Yankees are paying for putting him in the pen in 2009……..If his arm truly isn’t going to be there for the rest of the year, he shouldn’t be up here…………

  61. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    It’s alWays a mirage with Harden…..has he ever not gotten hurt?
    ——————————–
    In 2004, his 2nd year with Oakland he managed 189.2 innings. I’ll go out on a limb and say he got thru a season injury free that one year! :)

    However if the cost is minimal, the reward might be worth it, even if he works out of the bullpen.

  62. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Did you guess which thing was not like the others?
    Did you guess which thing just doesn’t belong?

  63. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Trader,

    I just think Ubaldo Jimenez is a huge difference maker. Instead of Colon, you get Ubaldo in Game 2. Colon in Game 3 and Garcia in Game 4. The 2 biggest question marks, AJ Burnett and Phil Hughes, get squeezed out.

    The rotation looks so much worse the other way.

    Plus, what happens next year when the CJ Wilson will be looking for ace money, Garcia and Colon are gone?

    CC then what?

  64. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    I would not trade prime assets for Harden – he can’t stay healthy

  65. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Betsy,

    “Everyday” Eddie Guardado. He was a lefty late inning reliever.

  66. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Russell Martin Career OPS+ = 100

    Brett Gardner Career OPS+ = 97

    So I guess when you look at the largest sample possible (most statisticians do I would assume) you would conclude…

    Russel Martin hasn’t been above 90 in 3 years. Brett Gardner hasn’t been below 100 in 2 years.

  67. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Russel Martin was better before the league adjusted to him, got worse the further his career has progressed. Brett Gardner has improved!

    They are on different trajectories. Martin peaked at 24.

  68. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Reds – Yolando, Hamilton, Volquez, etc.

    One of these things is not like the others.
    One of these things just doesn’t belong.
    Can you tell me which thing is not like the others?
    ———————————
    Unless the Reds have another elite prospect named Hamilton, Josh Hamilton was already traded from the Reds to the Rangers years ago for Edison Volquez.

    Do I get a prize LGY? LOL

  69. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    That’s it, shift to smaller samples. It’s what you do best.

    Both are 27.

    On top of that, the one with the higher career OPS+ is learning a new league and a new staff at a more demanding position.

  70. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Bret, thanks – I remember him…….

  71. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    That’s it, shift to smaller samples. It’s what you do best.

    Both are 27.

    On top of that, the one with the higher career OPS+ is learning a new league and a new staff at a more demanding position.

    Martin was just as bad last year and the year before in a league he knew inside and out. Both are 27 and one player is good and the other isn’t. Its real simple Bret.

  72. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Sure, the numbers back it up, they always do…

  73. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Well if you’d like to use the eye test I’ve personally seen Brett gardner on base a ton and Martin flying out acting like he wants to hit a HR but physically can’t.

    Its not like you need stats to know Martin isn’t a good hitter. When they signed him there was always the the risk he would simply be as bad as he was the last 2 years. The upside is that he could have been an above average hitter and provide solid defense.

    As it turns out he is terrible and his defense isn’t as great as it was last year either.

  74. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    I just think Ubaldo Jimenez is a huge difference maker. Instead of Colon, you get Ubaldo in Game 2. Colon in Game 3 and Garcia in Game 4.
    —————————————
    Bret-

    If Colon is healthy at the end of the season , he has been much more efficient with his pitches and still registers 94-95 in late innings. Jimenez lasted 5 innings at 101 pitches in his last outing, and 120 pitches for 6 &2/3rd the outing before, with a decrease in velocity the last inning to 91-92.

    Don’t some of the red flags bother you. Have you seen him throw 98 in the last few innings. The day he no-hit the braves last year he was at 98 in the 9th inning!

    I agree that he has a team friendly contract and would probably be worth taking on some risk, but not at what the Rockies are asking for now.

    Just my opinion and I’m sticking to it-but I’ll support the deal if it happens-just won’t be too happy if Montero is in it!!!!

  75. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    The Mets completed a four-game sweep in Cincinnati this afternoon, so the 50-55 Reds face a decision: do they continue pursuing difficult-to-obtain players like Ubaldo Jimenez and Hunter Pence or approach possible trades with a cautious approach more typical of a fourth-place team? At this point, the Reds may still be undecided. An unnamed general manager told Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports that Reds GM Walt Jocketty seems unsure about which course to take between now and Sunday’s trade deadline (Twitter link).

  76. pak14life July 28th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    any1 know when it will be on HBOGO?

  77. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    any1 know when it will be on HBOGO?
    ——————————–
    Don’t see it listed yet under documentaries or sports.

  78. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 11:46 pm

    why are we so caught up with a pitching throwing 98 in the 9th inning. Whats wrong with getting quality outs??

  79. Yankee Trader July 28th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Good night all. Again it was a wonderful documentary, and I’m proud to be a Yankee fan.

  80. UnKnown July 29th, 2011 at 1:05 am

    Just one thing I really hope and that is: If the Sux make a trade for someone that they give up a ton.

    They always seem to get guys while giving up nothing more than some peanuts and cracker jacks.

    So frustrating…

  81. Pat M. July 29th, 2011 at 1:10 am

    Just watched the Jeter 3K HBO Special……Wow !!!! Emmy time ….He’s had one of the most incredible careers in American Sports when you put it all together

  82. kd July 29th, 2011 at 1:19 am

    just finished watching the hbo documentary.

    we are all lucky to have him on the team we support.

    tony gwynn at the end! wow.

  83. Jerkface July 29th, 2011 at 1:22 am

    I was hoping for more player cursing in the HBO special.

  84. West Coast Yankee Fan July 29th, 2011 at 1:29 am

    I enjoyed the HBO Jeter special although from a production and writing standpoint I thought it wasn’t as polished as it could have been; Ken Burns quality it wasn’t. The Gary Debo and Tampa rehab material was really well done.

  85. kd July 29th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    jerkface…. only you.

    i liked when he stopped and said to himself, this is hbo, and then swore

  86. AldotheApache July 29th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan says:
    July 29, 2011 at 1:29 am
    I enjoyed the HBO Jeter special although from a production and writing standpoint I thought it wasn’t as polished as it could have been; Ken Burns quality it wasn’t.

    ————–

    That’s cause it was based on a concept that is foreign to you ….. reality.

  87. jacksquat July 29th, 2011 at 1:44 am

    Jerkface July 29th, 2011 at 1:22 am
    I was hoping for more player cursing in the HBO special.

    Don’t get enough from Swisher at bats? :)

  88. Jerkface July 29th, 2011 at 2:09 am

    Don’t get enough from Swisher at bats?

    :) I was hoping for something like that but in the dugout!

  89. West Coast Yankee Fan July 29th, 2011 at 2:14 am

    . . . no reason to be bitter Aldo just because I left you doubled over and crying at Doral. I’ll tell you what though, I’ll try to throw some more Olive Garden coupons your way so you can take your make believe family to dinner. And maybe if you make the letters on your cardboard sign a little larger; you’ll have a better day tomorrow. Good luck to you!

  90. sammiejohnson July 29th, 2011 at 2:21 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 29th, 2011 at 2:14 am
    I’ll try to throw some more Olive Garden coupons your way….

    _____________________________

    Not sure about Aldo, but I LIKE Olive Garden. Toss a couple of them coupons my way, will ya.

  91. Jerkface July 29th, 2011 at 2:36 am

    The authority on make believe people!

  92. joeman July 29th, 2011 at 5:54 am

    I hope they don’t bring Harden in…this team has a few R Harden on it now …they need a #2 SP not a back of the rotation guy. This move would not improve the rotation it would just give it length

  93. rr212 July 29th, 2011 at 6:46 am

    Harden is like another AJ. No thank you! Let the Sox have him.

  94. Purenyyankee July 29th, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Once AGAIN, DJ showed the world why he is the classiest player in baseball and the face of the game.

  95. NYYanksFan July 29th, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Jeter had control over filming so they showed enough that you thought you got something when what you got was the same as his last 15 years of interviews- what you already knew.

    They don’t give Emmys for infomercials.

  96. blake July 29th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    What did you expect? Jeter to allow something that would make him look bad?

    Looks like the price for Ubaldo is Montero, Betances, Nova, and probably another player…..now the game of chicken……do the Rockies lower their price another tick or does Cashman wind up doing? We shall see…..I wouldn’t include Montero and Betances both.

  97. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Jeter had control over filming so they showed enough that you thought you got something when what you got was the same as his last 15 years of interviews- what you already knew.

    They don’t give Emmys for infomercials.

    ========================

    Definite puff piece that offered little insight into the man, but as you suggested, that’s the way he wants it and that’s OK by me. Nowhere near as enjoyable to watch as the moment itself, but I’m not asking for that hour back either.

  98. Betsy July 29th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Why would the Rockies lower their price? It’s not like he’s really available – this is just like the Upton thing from last year. If another team blows them out of the water, sure the Rockies will listen; short of that, why should they trade him? I just don’t see any reason to believe that this is anything more than talk to fill the time between now and the trade deadline.

  99. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Blake-

    That would be a steep price.

    Depends on the evaluations of the various pieces invoved by Yankee brass.

    I’m with you in hoping the price drops.

    I actually hope they go for Danks and Thornton.

  100. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Looks like the price for Ubaldo is Montero, Betances, Nova, and probably another player…..now the game of chicken……do the Rockies lower their price another tick or does Cashman wind up doing? We shall see…..I wouldn’t include Montero and Betances both.

    ============================

    Don’t think it can be a game of chicken, Blake, when one side is operating with no risk.

  101. pat July 29th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    YankeesPR Manager Joe Girardi also stopping by @todayshow this morning at 815 am for #Hopeweek surprise!

  102. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    I actually hope they go for Danks and Thornton.

    ============================

    I don’t know MTU. White Sox are 2 games back in the AILC. Don’t imagine them selling off these guys at this point. Unless they have a lousy next couple nights, I think those guys are staying put.

  103. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Mell-

    Guess you think all the trade talk surrounding them is BS then ?

  104. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Mell-

    Guess you think all the trade talk surrounding them is BS then ?
    ===========================

    Wasn’t that much talk in the 1st place. One guy tweeted they might be made available. Been little to no talk otherwise.

    I think Quentin could possibly be on the move, but not Danks.

  105. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:27 am

    Mell-

    Weren’t they just involved in a trade ?

    What would they get for Quentin that helps them now ?

    My point is, where there is smoke there’s fire. I think the WS may be sellers.

    If they are then Danks is available.

  106. Erin July 29th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Loved the Jeter doc. They did such a good job! :D

  107. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    By the way Mell.

    I hear a rumor this morning that Guillen nay be shipping out next season as well.

  108. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    edit: may. sorry. typo.

  109. BoJo July 29th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    pat July 29th, 2011 at 8:16 am
    YankeesPR Manager Joe Girardi also stopping by @todayshow this morning at 815 am for #Hopeweek surprise!
    ____
    I’m hoping they permanently replace Kathy Lee –that would be awesome!

  110. LGY July 29th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Don’t think it can be a game of chicken, Blake, when one side is operating with no risk.

    ———-

    I think they have gone too far to pull back now.

    Also it’s a matter of how much they like the Yankees offer. Even if it is not everything they want the prospects offered may still be enticing enough.

  111. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    LGY-

    What do you think the Yankees have offered ?

  112. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    MTU:

    They were trading from a position of relative strength, as they had 6 starters. Now they have 5. The objects in the Tigers’ rearview mirror are closer than they appear.

    I think there’s a 97.84% chance that the next time the Yankees will see Danks is Monday or Tuesday……………as the opposing pitcher.

  113. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Good morning all.

    Will the price fall. I think it will as other teams supposedly involved for Jimenez trade for other players and utilize their resources.
    Teams rumored to be interested:
    Tigers: If they add either of Kuroda or Marquis or another pitcher-possibly out
    Rangers: Looking to add Heath Bell, possibly Mike Adams
    Indians: Looking for another bat even after Fukudome.
    Reds: #1 competition but falling out of the race. Do they still want Ubaldo for next year
    Red Sox: Are Weiland and Middlebrooks enough?

  114. Betsy July 29th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    LGY, how have the Rockies gone too far? Even if I believed that, it’s never too late to pull back……….

  115. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Mell-

    I don’t think the WS are good enough even in that weak division.

    Williams has been known to do some really boneheaded things.

    Maybe he will again.

    Odds are that you are correct though.

  116. BoJo July 29th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    I’m starting to think the LOOGY we might pick up is Marte….

    If Cashman does nothing but pick up Matsui, I’d be fine with it.

    I trust Ubaldo Jimenez in the #2 play-off spot as much as I trust AJ. There is no line of GMs waiting to solve that issue for Cashman.

    Seriously–going in to game 2 down 1 against the Red Sox, Rangers, Detroit, Phillies or Giants….there are very few pitchers in baseball that I feel more confident in than Colon. Felix, Verlander, Johnson, a healthy Santana, and few others. None are available…so let’s get over it.

  117. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:38 am

    I think they have gone too far to pull back now.

    Also it’s a matter of how much they like the Yankees offer. Even if it is not everything they want the prospects offered may still be enticing enough.

    ===============================

    Disagree with the first part of your assessment. Zero pressure to move him by Sunday, though maybe some to move him over the offseason.

    Agree with the 2nd part. If the Yankees pony up big, no reason to think the Rox wouldn’t pull the trigger.

  118. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    The issue with Colon is one of health risk not ability.

    Want to place the outcome of an entire season on that ?

    Are the odds stacked in your favor doing that ?

  119. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2011 at 8:40 am

    MTU-

    If the Red Sox sweep the WS this weekend, Sundays game is @2:10, then maybe they become sellers. Adding Jason Frasor fullfilled a need while Losing Jackson who was a surplus and Teahan freed up money

  120. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    there are very few pitchers in baseball that I feel more confident in than Colon.

    ====================================

    Really? He pitched well this year, but as his innings climb into the 150 range in September, I worry a little about what he’s going to have left.

  121. blake July 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Mell,

    I think the Rockies want to move him now….this has gone on much longer with a lot more smoke than the Upton thing. There were never any leaks of player discussions with that. There has been several prospects mentioned here from multiple teams. They may ultimatley decide to keep him…..but I think they are serious about trading him if they can get close to what they want….JMO, I could be wrong.

  122. LGY July 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    MTU

    From what I’ve read, I imagine it’s something like Montero, Corban Joseph, maybe one of the AAA pitchers, and some lower level high upside guy. I think the Yankees are comfortable with adding Nova to the deal, but they are hesitant to add Betances. IMO, they don’t want to deal both Montero and Betances.

    Betsy.

    A lot different things. One is just natural human reaction. The Rockies seem invested in making this trade more than just as an exploratory exercise. The whole process seems more serious than the Justin Upton example. When you go this far with something it’s almost natural to want a resolution. Also, if they Rockies are leading teams on to believe they are actually willing to trade him it won’t be the best for O’Dowd’s rep if at the end he just pulls back and basically played everybody.

    I think, and I could be wrong because none of us really know what is going on, that the Rockies are invested in trading Ubaldo.

  123. BoJo July 29th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:39 am
    The issue with Colon is one of health risk not ability.

    Want to place the outcome of an entire season on that ?

    Are the odds stacked in your favor doing that ?
    ____
    Colon has been fine except for a little hamstring problem that he is over.

    Every pitcher is one pitch away from DL…Colon is same as Ubaldo….He has better machanics and frankly is a better pitcher right now.

    I don’t believe Cashman is going to empty his prospects tank just out of fear that something MIGHT happen to Colon.

    I’m willing to ride the hot pitcher…if he bursts, then look to next year. That’s baseball

  124. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    YT-

    Can’t get too excited when a team trades away a guy who is capable of throwing a No No for a reliever. Not too bright IMO.

    Why worry about shedding money unless other moves are forthcoming ?

  125. MaineYankee July 29th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    Yankee Trader

    Red Sox: Are Weiland and Middlebrooks enough?

    ———————————————————————————————–

    I think the Yankees could top that without Montero or Betances.

  126. LGY July 29th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    This is different than the Upton thing, because there are games being played.

    Both the Rockies and interested teams are sending scouts and spending resources on this potential trade.

    This isn’t cost free like floating Upton’s name out there was.

  127. BoJo July 29th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am
    there are very few pitchers in baseball that I feel more confident in than Colon.

    ====================================

    Really? He pitched well this year, but as his innings climb into the 150 range in September, I worry a little about what he’s going to have left.
    ____
    This isn’t Colon’s first rodeo…he is a very mature pitcher and former Cy Young who knows how to keep prepared during season…and you can bet Girardi will handle him gingerly,

    Also, his outings tend to be very easy on him…under 100 pitches..few tough innings…I’m not worried.

  128. Erin July 29th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    Yankee Trader July 29th, 2011 at 8:40 am
    MTU-

    If the Red Sox sweep the WS this weekend,

    ***********************

    White Sox Guy has assured me this will not happen. ;)

  129. blake July 29th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    Ubaldo Jimenez Rumors: Thursday
    By Tim Dierkes [July 29 at 12:26am CST]
    The latest on Rockies ace Ubaldo Jimenez, who is scheduled to pitch Saturday in San Diego…

    •The Tigers contacted the Rockies Thursday to discuss possible deals, according to Ken Rosenthal and Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports. Colorado is also discussing Jimenez with the Yankees, Red Sox, Reds and Indians, according to FOX. Names of interest to the Rockies: Kyle Weiland and Will Middlebrooks of the Red Sox, Ivan Nova, Dellin Betances, and Jesus Montero of the Yankees, Jacob Turner of the Tigers, Yonder Alonso and a Major League starting pitcher from the Reds, and Drew Pomeranz of the Indians.
    •The Yankees appear to have the best shot at Jimenez, but there are no indications that they will meet the Rockies’ asking price, according to Troy Renck of the Denver Post (on Twitter).
    •The Rockies’ asking price for Jimenez “remains very, very high,” tweets ESPN’s Buster Olney, as in three top prospects. There’s been no significant movement in the Jimenez market, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post.
    •An NL source tells Scott Lauber of the Boston Herald the Red Sox are “not hot as of now” for Jimenez.

    you never really heard any mention of actual players with J. Upton….just that Towers would consider trading him for a king’s ransom. What you heard was that teams heard the price and everyone was immediately scared away. I think that was a true “weather balloon”. I used to think that’s what this was as well…..not thinking so much anymore. The Rockies have stayed in it too long…..I think they want to move him either now or this winter.

  130. Mell July 29th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    If the Red Sox sweep the WS this weekend

    =======================

    Think that issue may be settled tonight. Floyd does very well with the Red Sox and Wakefield is Wakefield. White Sox would be a good bet this evening.

  131. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Every pitcher is one pitch away from DL…Colon is same as Ubaldo….He has better mechanics and frankly is a better pitcher right now.
    ————————————–
    Bojo-
    Totally agree. Colon is also more economical with his pitches and still throws 94-95 in the late innings.

  132. BoJo July 29th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Off for a while–later!

  133. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Bojo-

    You are entitled to your opinion but Colon represents a significant health risk going forward IMO.

    I am content with whatever the Yanks decide but if they are really serious about going for it all I doubt they let it rest on keeping Colon
    healthy all the way thru Oct.

    They should take out some insurance if that’s their aim.

    Thats my take.

  134. Yankee Trader July 29th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    New Post on Hope week—>>

  135. Erin July 29th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    New Post: HOPE Week goes on the Today show

    :arrow:

  136. MTU July 29th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    LGY-

    I hope the Yankees will not agree to include both Montero and Betances.

    Actually, I hope they keep Jesus.

    Colorado has to come off of their negotiating posture if that’s the case.

    I doubt that Betances + is enough. We’ll see.

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