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Yankees “deeply saddened” by death of Hideki Irabu

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Jul 28, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Earlier today, there were still some unknowns when news broke about the death of former Yankees starter Hideki Irabu. At this point, though, police have told the LA Times that they’re investigating the incident as “an apparent suicide and hanging.” Awful news, obviously, and the Yankees passed along their condolences this evening.

“We are deeply saddened to learn of the passing of Hideki Irabu. Every player that wears the Pinstripes is forever a part of the Yankees family, and his death is felt throughout our organization. Our sympathies and support go out to his wife, Kyonsu, his two children, and all of his friends and loved ones.”

Here’s the latest from the Associated Press.

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Former New York Yankees pitcher Hideki Irabu was found dead, an apparent suicide in the wealthy suburb of Rancho Palos Verdes.

The 42-year-old Irabu was found at 4:25 p.m. PDT Wednesday, county sheriff’s Sgt. Michael Arriaga said.

“He was found dead by an apparent suicide,” Arriaga said.

Irabu lived in Rancho Palos Verdes but it was not immediately clear whether it was his home, the sergeant said.

Other details were not immediately released.

Los Angeles County coroner’s official Ed Winter said Irabu’s body was found by a friend and law enforcement was notified.

Winter said the coroner’s office was not releasing any circumstances of the death other than it was being investigated as a suicide.

The autopsy will be performed either Friday or Saturday, Winter said.

Former major league manager Bobby Valentine, now an ESPN broadcaster, managed Irabu in Japan in 1995. Valentine said he got the news Thursday when it came across on his mobile phone.

“I got a little sick to my stomach, actually,” he said.

Irabu was billed as the Japanese version of Nolan Ryan when he arrived in the United States in 1997. But after an impressive major league debut with the Yankees that summer, he never came close to fulfilling such lofty expectations.

Rather, he always wore the label that late Yankees owner George Steinbrenner stuck on him after Irabu failed to cover first base during an exhibition game: “Fat … toad.”

“He was a world-class pitcher. When Nolan Ryan saw him he said he had never seen anything like it,” Valentine said. “There were just some days when he was as good a pitcher as I had ever seen. A fabulous arm.”

Irabu finished 34-35 with a 5.15 ERA in three seasons with the Yankees, two years in Montreal and a final season in the Texas bullpen in 2002. He was a member of two Yankees teams that won the World Series, but his only postseason action was a single relief appearance in the 1999 AL championship series when Boston tagged him for 13 hits.

Still, Irabu left a lasting legacy. Several big stars, from Ichiro Suzuki to Hideki Matsui, followed Hideo Nomo and Irabu from Japan to the United States.

“He was one of the pioneers,” Valentine said. “There was a lot riding on his shoulders.”

The right-hander made a comeback in April 2009 in the independent Golden Baseball League, going 5-3 with a 3.58 ERA for the Long Beach Armada. He then returned to Japan and was introduced that August as a member of the Kochi Fighting Dogs, saying, “I have high expectations for myself.”

Irabu had his share of off-the-field trouble in recent years.

In August 2008, he was arrested in Japan for allegedly assaulting a bartender after drinking 20 mugs of beer. Police said he became angered after his credit card was rejected.

In May 2010, Irabu was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence of alcohol in the Los Angeles suburb of Gardena.

Police said he was stopped after his car drifted outside of traffic lanes and he nearly collided with a parked car.

He posted $5,000 bail but it was not immediately clear whether he was criminally charged.

“I think that he was one of his own worst enemies,” Valentine said.

Irabu starred in Japan for nearly a decade before the San Diego Padres purchased his contract from the Chiba Lotte Marines. But Irabu declined to join the Padres, insisting he would only play for the Yankees.

The Yankees put together a package and traded for Irabu a few months later and signed him to a four-year, $12.8 million contract.

Irabu tuned up in the minors before making his big league debut at Yankee Stadium on July 10, 1997. The crowd was buzzing even before his first pitch, and fans on two continents watched him. T-shirts with “Typhoon Irabu” were on sale at the concession stands at Yankee Stadium and sushi was sold alongside the hot dogs and beers.

With current Yankees manager Joe Girardi as his catcher that night, Irabu retired the first six Detroit batters, striking out four of them and showing a 96 mph fastball. He fanned nine in 6 2-3 innings and got the win.

When he walked off the mound in the seventh inning, Yankees fans gave him a standing ovation. Some even bowed with both hands over their heads, and Irabu came out of the dugout for a curtain call.

That, however, was perhaps his finest moment in the majors.

“He was a work in progress. It just didn’t progress I guess the way he had planned or the way some people planned,” Valentine said.

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86 Responses to “Yankees “deeply saddened” by death of Hideki Irabu”

  1. Betsy July 28th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Awful news. My co-worker told me today – I reacted with utter shock; then he had to remind me that this was Irabu, not Matsui. Still, what a sad ending……..

  2. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    The previous thread leads me to believe that none of the prospects are UNTOUCHABLE. Name the last prospect that we traded away thats comeback to haunt us? Cash go get us some reinforcements!

  3. ericns1 July 28th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Sad news

  4. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Josh Norris @jnorris427 another six pitches from Dellin. Goodness. 18 pitches in his last three frames total.

  5. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    5 IP 2 H 0 BB 3 Ks.

  6. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    mel if your still out there. This week has been torture for me. The Yanks havnt made a move yet and the Colts are watching the Patriots from the sidelines bring in ex pro bowl players for peanuts. Cant wait till its over.

  7. jackamir July 28th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Wife and kids left behind & he hung himself. Terrible news but desperate people do desperate things. It is too bad The Boss saddled him as the Toad. In every article I’ve read this has been said. It really labeled him unjustly.

  8. Frozen Rope July 28th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    favorite Irabu moment and one of my favorite all time: after Clemens plunked Brosius in response to being smacked around and no warning was given by the spineless umpires, Irabu nails Shannon Stewart with the first pitch of the next inning and after Stewart shoots him a dirty look, Irabu charges the PLATE, shouting angrily and gesticulating toward Stewart, Strawberry and the rest on the team comes out and Straw kicks Bill Risley’s @$$.

  9. Frozen Rope July 28th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    ^that incident in 1998 said a lot about Irabu’s character in my book, he had some good stretches but also some ups and downs, but he seemed like a pretty good guy and good teammate and I remember O’neill giving him a nod of appreciation after he stuck up for the team in that instances vs Toronto. Yankees could have used some of that fight against the Sox earlier this year.

  10. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    M

    Ubaldo is a groundball+strikeout pitcher.

  11. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Such a sad thing. And so young. There definitely is a down side to being famous and transitioning from an athlete to a life without sports.

    I’d love to know why he was living in the states.

  12. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Josh Norris @jnorris427 another six pitches from Dellin. Goodness. 18 pitches in his last three frames total.

    ************

    Holy Canoli. The Rockies better accept Montero + Dellin and crap and run! The price of the complimentary pieces in that package just went down big time.

  13. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Repost:
    Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    SoS July 28th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    This thread leads me to believe that none of the prospects are UNTOUCHABLE. Name the last prospect that we traded away thats comeback to haunt us? Cash go get us some reinforcements!
    =====================
    Nobody is untouchable. However, this doesn’t suggest that the Yanks should go out and make a deal. The fact that there aren’t many trades that we regret speaks well of Cashman and his willingness to forgo making a deal. How many folks torched him for not going after Santana?

  14. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Repost:
    Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Why did the Rox lock down Tulowitzki and Gonzalez in the offseason but not Ubaldo? What does it say that they are now looking to shop him?

  15. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    LGY,

    Thanks for that. As soon as I hit submit I’m like no!

    SoS,

    Ugh. Hainsworth is such fat, ugly tool. But I expect he’ll be on his best behavior around the HOF coach, players, and owners. ;)

    What’s this I see about the new agreement affecting Manning? Didn’t he already sign his big extension?

  16. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Repost:
    Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    m July 28th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    GW,

    Isn’t he “locked up” for a while? No sense re-do a contract you’re in the middle of. Especially for a pitcher. Although I may be wrong as to when his contract expires.
    ===============
    Tulo was locked up through 2014. There was no reason to do his either. Why Tulo and not UJ?

  17. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....index.html

  18. Nick in SF July 28th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    “Ugh. Hainsworth is such fat, ugly tool.”

    In this thread?

    Too soon!

  19. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    http://www.denverpost.com/rockies/ci_17434319

  20. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Seriously, I think it’s the pitcher vs. “he’s our Derek Jeter” thing.

    But I also have concerns about why he’s being shopped.

  21. Giuseppe Franco July 28th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Rule #1 during the last few days before the deadline….

    ALWAYS take all the speculation with a huge grain of salt. Most of it tends to be nothing but BS.

    Nobody has any idea what is being said behind closed doors, including the media who reports this stuff.

    Oftentimes, the deals that get done are ones you never hear about.

  22. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    If the Yankees do acquire Ubaldo Jimenez without surrendering Nova or Hughes in the deal, which teams will be lining up to trade for Nova or Hughes?

    Yankees are definitely in the market for an impact bat.

    If they wanted a bench player or role player, they would’ve been more aggressive for Keppinger.

    Hunter Pence?

    Carlos Quentin?

    Other?

  23. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Ubaldo pitches again Sat.

    TD is Sun.

    One last look.

    ;)

  24. randy l. July 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    i think the yankees would be making a historic blunder in trading montero.

    the thing that makes a team like the yankees special is that fans attach themselves to individual players who represent an era of the team. i had mantle and whitey and tresh and the others in the 50′s and 60′s. then there was munson and company. mattingly was the man for a generation. then jeter came along. yes , there are players that come in trades , but the ones that really grab fans are the homegrown ones who represent an era, especially a championship era.

    montero could that kind of player for the yankees. he potentially could be that good. i just wouldn’t trade that potential. you don’t keep him for any fan over ten years old. you keep him for the new generation coming up so they have their star to root for the way we rooted for mantle when i was a kid.

  25. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    This is the Cano era.

  26. West Coast Yankee Fan July 28th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Tragic news about Irabu who lived ten minutes from me, near a wooded trail where I take my dog for hikes. He must have been in a great deal of pain – yesterday was maybe the most beautiful day of the year. RIP.

  27. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    The fact that there aren’t many trades that we regret speaks well of Cashman and his willingness to forgo making a deal. How many folks torched him for not going after Santana?

    =====

    Ghost,
    I cant remember who was in the rumors for Santana(wang and Hughes +???). I agree that Cashman knows more than any of us who to trade and who to hang on to. He didnt include Cano in the Johnson trade and look how that turned out. I believe that Montero is as good as gone and one of the b’s as well. The question is for who? Bat? Ubaldo? Or someone we didnt even think of? Its going to be fun to see how he reloads this team for the stretch run. I just wish we can open our presents before sunday.

  28. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Ubaldo pitches again Sat.

    TD is Sun.

    One last look.

    ;)
    ========
    If they’re going to do it, the Yanks should get it done Friday night to have him pitch in the doubleheader on Saturday. I would be willing to send Hughes and a couple of low level prospects for him, but not much more than that.

  29. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Brett,

    Re: Sanchez. I don’t know much about him, but it sounds like he’s young? 18 or so? Far from the Bronx. And far too long to bridge with Cervelli/Martin, lol.

    How about we keep Romine and Sanchez? And maybe that kid Montero. How many GM’s are going to be kicking themselves when he’s a big stah for the Yankees?

  30. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    If they brought in Hunter Pence, Swisher’s option would definitely be declined.

    DH would be wide open.

  31. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    First of all, none of us how NO idea how Ubaldo will pitch in the AL East. The same thing was said about CC when he dominated the NL in 2008. Question?? how did that workout!?? People kill me when they make assumptions about a pitcher before giving him a chance to throw one pitch.

    Ubaldo will have games when he gets shelled. What pitcher doesn’t get shelled? It happens to all of the greats.

  32. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Have no idea***

  33. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I meant that Tulo got locked up because he’s the face of their franchise, their “Derek Jeter”.

  34. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    mel,
    They just got Ocho Taco Johnson. Not a bad pickup. Not sure who had the bigger mouth T.O. or Ocho. Im sure Bradey will have ear plugs in.

    Manning hasnt signed. It will be interesting to see if he takes the 25 mil and handcuffs the Colts or 20 giving them room to go after a free agent.

  35. Against All Odds July 28th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    That’s because the dbacks didn’t want Cano. He got saved on that deal just like Jack Z saved him last yr.

  36. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Sorry for no update, went to get gelato.

    Betances completely imploded in the 6th.

  37. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    m,

    At this point, with the way Montero is hitting and Dellin dealing, I’m not worried about losing Romine or Sanchez in that package. The rest of it should be crap and the Rockies should lower their asking price of 3 top talents down to just 2. They should take it and run. The other pieces should be like Corban Joseph and JR Murphy.

  38. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    5 IP, 7 H, 4 runs, 1 BB, 3 Ks.

    Leaves with 2 on none out.

  39. Giuseppe Franco July 28th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    You can’t compare Sabathia with Jimenez. Their situations aren’t remotely similar.

    Sabathia won a Cy Young in the AL. He pitched all but half of one season in the AL before he signed with the Yanks.

    Sabathia also didn’t have questions surrounding the drop in his velocity.

  40. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    LGY,

    Hows our boy Dellin looking??

  41. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    SoS,

    I disagree. I don’t think that Cash will pull the trigger on sending away Montero and certainly not Banuelos or Betances. I imagine a minor deal for a pitcher and possibly a bat. I would love to see him get Matsui, and/or Melky. (However, I think that getting Melky is wishful thinking on my part.) I think that he probably ought to get us another corner infielder; I don’t Chavez’s durability.

  42. Nick in SF July 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    “Sorry for no update, went to get gelato.”

    Elitist.

  43. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Pulled after 63 pitches

  44. Against All Odds July 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Seems like the Jets have a legit shot at getting Asomugha

  45. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    GF,

    true but all we heard when we signed cc was that he couldn’t pitch in the AL.

  46. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    SoS,

    lol. Are you serious? Another tool for the club. TO is worse. Definitely. Johnson (and it is Johnson again) is just a showman. Not a grumbler. I kind of miss Moss, though. He was a pretty good soldier for the most part.

    Manning going to do a 1 year deal?

  47. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Elitist.

    ——

    :lol:

    Let’s just say gelato not only tastes better, but settles better if you know what I mean ;)

  48. Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Those 5 innings of dominance were good enough. It seems like a brilliant display of talent. Just have to harness that talent.

  49. Nick in SF July 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Typical gelato industry sycophancy.

  50. Kelvin July 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Hopefully we do land nnamdi asomugha

  51. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Pulled after 63 pitches? Did he go down the tunnel or straight to the scouts?

    I think we said he couldn’t pitch like he did in that stretch. He’s in a stretch similar to that, but that was otherworldly. But for the most part, the good pitchers get even better when they go to the NL.

  52. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Sorry for no update, went to get gelato.

    Betances completely imploded in the 6th.

    =========

    Dammit LGY!! You couldnt have waited until after the game make a run!!

  53. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    jackamir July 28th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Wife and kids left behind & he hung himself. Terrible news but desperate people do desperate things. It is too bad The Boss saddled him as the Toad. In every article I’ve read this has been said. It really labeled him unjustly.
    ==================
    It’s wrong to include that episode in his obituary. I didn’t like the way he played, but today is not a time to speak of such things. It’s very sad that he died so young, and sadder still is the circumstances under which he died. I hope that he finds peace in the next life.

  54. randy l. July 28th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    “This is the Cano era.”

    maybe, but he needs more because he’s not a superstar in the mantle sense.

    montero’s potential would be a good addition to cano’s. they could overlap careers for maybe a decade.

    the yankees have to be careful that they get too many players no one cares about.

    it’s an old argument on the blog, but i believe individual player loyalties creates lifelong fans though that seems counterintuitive considering a fan ends up rooting for the team.

  55. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Ghost-

    Unless Nova is part of a deal he can pitch Sat.

    There shouldn’t be any rush.

    Get one more good look before pulling the trigger one way or the other.

    I can say this with certainty. Ubaldo has a big time arm.

    Does not guarantee success though. There is a certain element of risk.

    That’s what the Yankees have to calculate before deciding to go ahead or not. Weigh that against the price.

    Ubaldo is not Lee nor Felix but does have the arm to be either.

    Hisk risk high reward is the way I see it.

    He might also morph into a slightly better version of AJ if things break bad.

  56. LGY July 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    It’s my fault SOS :(

    I will never go for gelato when Ubaldo is a Yankee ;)

  57. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Wait. He was pulled for ineffectiveness? Nick in SF might get a ban for communicating with a player via an electronic device during a game.

  58. luis July 28th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    I’m out guys, have a good night.

    WCYF: sad in deed.

  59. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 28th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    If they brought in Hunter Pence, Swisher’s option would definitely be declined.

    DH would be wide open.
    =========
    This is how I would like to see things play out. However, I’m not holding my breath, waiting for it. Getting Pence would be very expensive.

  60. Against All Odds July 28th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Cano with Jesus would be sick especially since a number of the bats are getting older.

  61. NYY fan in NH July 28th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Sad for Irabu. He took alot of heat and grief while here, but got 2 rings.

  62. SoS July 28th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    mel,
    No. But the avg. per deal is going to be around the 20 to 25 mil.

    Gotta run fellas. Hope Cash is not planning on fetching gelato tonight.

  63. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Danks doesn’t have as much upside as U-Jim but he’s a safer bet because he’d likely cost less.

    And he is a lefty. which is good too.

    :)

  64. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    TDL passes and Montero is still here. Call up or no?

    I don’t think they bring up to take AB away from Jorge. It would have to be Cervelli because we’re not going to carry 3.5 catchers.

  65. BoJo July 28th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    RIP Hidecki-san

  66. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    MTU,

    I think that Ubaldo has a bunch of red flags about him. The amount of the risk associated with him is directly correlated with the cost that it takes to acquire him. I wouldn’t send Nova, the B’s, or Montero, because I don’t think that it’s a good bet. The fact that the Rox weren’t willing to extend him in the offseason while they did the deal for Tulo speaks volumes to me. Now, they’re shopping him.

  67. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    m-

    yes. In a NY minute.

  68. Tar July 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Randy

    I agree. The 80′s Met’s with Straw and Doc is another good example. It’s the only time I remember that the Mets seemed to have tipped the balance in their favor with the Kids of NYC.

  69. LockDown July 28th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Hoping to see Montero in pinstripes next week :D

  70. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Ghost-

    I’m content with whatever the Yankees decide to do.

    They are the pros. They know how to evaluate the risk/reward better than any of us could ever hope to do.

    All I was saying is that from my experience watching Ubaldo over the years he has just sick stuff.

    It’s so good in fact that at times he has trouble harnessing it.

  71. Jerkface July 28th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    It’s so good in fact that at times he has trouble harnessing it.

    This isn’t a plus.

  72. m July 28th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Even if Montero survives the DL, I don’t think he’s up right away.

  73. randy l. July 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    “Cano with Jesus would be sick especially since a number of the bats are getting older.”

    like right handed and left handed bookends in the line up.

    i know i want to see it.

    i really think it’s time to bring up montero by the way.

    i think he’d add a lot to the team.

  74. Bronx Jeers July 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    How’s Dellin doing? I went out to pick up a fresh jar of Grey Poupon for my pate’ and cornichon sandwich and missed the last inning.

  75. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Ghost-

    All I was saying is that from my experience watching Ubaldo over the years he has just sick stuff.

    It’s so good in fact that at times he has trouble harnessing it.

    =====================

    Okay, that description sounds like AJ (or perhaps, Jeff Weaver)–you’re creeping me out, man!! :)

  76. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    JF-

    That’s for the Yankee brass to decide IMO.

    Beyond my pay grade. Way beyond.

    I’m content either way.

  77. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Ghost-

    His stuff is better than AJ’s ever was.

    He’s a 4 pitch guy.

    Everything moves.

  78. randy l. July 28th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    “The 80?s Met’s with Straw and Doc is another good example.”

    tar-

    great example.

    seriously, i have no idea what the yankees are waiting for with montero.

    bring him up.

  79. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Ghost-

    When healthy his stuff is electric.

  80. Against All Odds July 28th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    I think he would add a lot as well. Of course he’s going to go through his ups and downs but the bat is there and hopefully we”ll see it in the Bronx soon.

  81. MTU July 28th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Have a good one folks.

    Gotta run for now.

    :)

  82. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    The lack of control is a big problem. Like I said before, I would be willing to send Hughes (because there are a ton of question marks about him) and a couple of lower level sweeteners. Ubaldo isn’t Lee or Halladay–they were polished, finished products, not guys with control problems…

  83. kd July 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    there has to be a reason why monetero is not up now.

    if his bat is ready, they have to think he’ll get more catching knowledge with girardi, pena, and posada mentoring him.

    i’ve gotta think there’s an attitude or hitting reason.

    i don’t buy the ‘he won’t play every day’ argument. he can catch once or twice a week, dh 2 other days.

  84. Ghostwriter July 28th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    kd July 28th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    there has to be a reason why monetero is not up now.

    if his bat is ready, they have to think he’ll get more catching knowledge with girardi, pena, and posada mentoring him.

    ===================
    I don’t think that this is true. I really wonder how much time they have on the ML level to work on these kinds of things. Cervelli has regressed terribly during his time with the big club. When he first came up, he could play a decent backstop, and now he doesn’t. It doesn’t look like anybody is working with him.

  85. Benny Blanco July 28th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    turn to HBO!!

  86. randy l. July 28th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    i’m not exactly stupid in judging catchers. i said from the beginning that cervelli was what he’s turned out to be at a time when most on the blog loved cervelli. he drove me crazy from the beginning.

    i haven’t seen montero a lot, but i think he is a decent enough catcher and that’s all he needs to be if he reaches his hitting potential.

    i’m not sure exactly how he’d fit into the lineup , but that’s why girardi is paid big bucks isn’t it?

    someone would be odd man out.

    that’s part of the reason why i like montero coming up. it changes the dynamic on the team.
    montero himself could be odd man out. or posada. or martin even.

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