Yankees pregame: Soriano back
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 29, 2011 
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Brian Heyman here for this weekend series against the Orioles. Rafael Soriano is here, too. The Yankees are activating him as expected. Reliever Steve Garrison is being optioned back to Double-A Trenton.
But Joe Girardi wouldn’t say how he was going to use Soriano long term, if Soriano would be taking back the eighth inning from David Robertson, who has been rather valuable in that role. Short term, it sounds as if Robertson will keep the job and Girardi will pick his spots for Soriano now.
“We’re going to work him back in slow,” Girardi said. “We’re not going to throw him right in there. We’ll be careful. I’ll have to look at (using) him two days in a row. We’re just getting him back, and we want to make sure he’s where he’s supposed to be.”
Ivan Nova is scheduled to come up from Triple-A and pitch the second game of tomorrow’s day/night doubleheader, so the Yankees will have to make another roster move to make room. Girardi said wouldn’t say whether this would be a one-shot deal, just that he will reevaluate afterward. Girardi also said he had no regrets about having sent Nova back to the minors to make room for Phil Hughes.
“The guy that we brought back into the rotation won 18 games last year, and there aren’t a lot of people who do that every year,” Girardi said. “We thought there were things that Nova could also work on.”
Girardi and two other of Hideki Irabu’s former teammates here, Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada, also reacted to the news that came out yesterday that the ex-pitcher had apparently committed suicide at the age 42.
“Irabu was fun,” Jeter said. “He didn’t speak much English, but he knew more than probably he led you guys to believe. He was fun to be around. He had a good personality. … I feel bad for him and his family. I was caught off guard to say the least.”
“Devastating,” Posada said. “I got to know him real well. A guy who came out here with a lot riding on his shoulders. I thought he did a hell of a job for us. Tough times.
“When he was into it, he was the nastiest pitcher in the league. I remember in Seattle, he was on the trading block. They were talking about him getting traded for Randy Johnson at that time, and he really outpitched Randy. It was like a two- or three-hitter. Ken Griffey after the game talked really high about him. He threw 97, 98 mph. The splitty was 95, 96 mph.”
“He’s going to missed,” Girardi said. “He had children. … It’s sad.”
Not that it matters, but I don’t recall Irabu throwing that hard back then.
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“One note on Hiroki Kuroda: because of his no-trade clause, there’s a league mandated 24-hour period before a deal can be finalized. That means the deadline to trade him is tomorrow, not Sunday. There still hasn’t been an indication that he’s on the move.”
-from RAB
i still appreciate Irabu sticking up for the Yankees and charging the plate after he plunked Shannon Stewart in response to Clemens beaning Scotty B. He did have times when the FB got up to the mid 90s.
I feel bad for the guy, I hope he finds the peace he never found in life.
Any insights into why Irabu was despondent?
The Yankees have made no calls to the Rockies thus far today, tweets Ken Rosenthal.
The Yankees made multiple calls to the Dodgers today on Kuroda, tweets Ken Rosenthal
LGY-Maybe that’s why all the calls on Kuroda today
“Hello, Ned, have you put down the crack pipe yet?”
The Domonic Brown speculation from Sherman is interesting.
What if you could trade Betances for Brown and have Brown replace Montero as the centerpiece of a deal for Ubaldo?
Or keep Brown so it lessens the sting of losing Montero’s bat?
via Twitter:
ESPN’s Buster Olney was told by a National League source that the Phillies have no intention of putting Domonic Brown in a deal for Hunter Pence.
That farm list must be inverted. Don’t the Yankees have the worst system and the Sox the 5th best?
I think I would trade Betances for Brown.
That would be a really cool trade which probably means it has 0% chance of happening.
Actually, m, that one that the Red Sox have is better than the other 49 put together.
/Gammons’d
hardwired7-
Thanks for the link of the top 50 prospects.
Noticed #46 is the Red Sox only one-Jose Iglesias
The Red Sox are aggressively pursuing Jimenez while the Indians, Reds, and Blue Jays are also interested, tweets Jon Heyman of SI. Meanwhile, Heyman says that the Yankees are “lurking”.
Red Sox don’t have any other prospects in the top 50, except a light hitting SS.
so the Phillies have been able to keep Brown out of a deal for Halladay,Lee,Oswalt and now Pence. Wonder if the Yankees could have got all of those players without giving up Montero
yeah, getting brown would be so cool. Philly is about to send him packing or back to AAA. He’s not even good enough to fill their hole in right field.
You wonder how George’s fat toad comment affected Irabu…………
Glad to have Soriano back; I still think he’ll help if he’s healthy
Sherman was on WFAN a few moments ago and reiterated what he had tweeted earlier – the Yankees like him, but they don’t think he’s an ace. I don’t see Cashman caving on this, so I really don’t think this will happen.
The Red Sox don’t need to trade actual prospects. They trade you the prestige of their brand. You’re lucky to get it 2nd hand.
Iglesias hits like a pitcher but because he can pick it he’s one of the top 50 in the game. Uh huh. When a guy who can’t hit .220 w/o power is the Red Sox SS wake me up.
I just want to know where “CY” Weiland & “Babe” Middlebrooks are on that list.
6’5″ 23 yo lefty Domonic Brown! Come on down!!
yeah, getting brown would be so cool. Philly is about to send him packing or back to AAA. He’s not even good enough to fill their hole in right field.
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LOL. You make me laugh GB.
It would be cool in the sense that there are never any prospect for prospect trades and Brown while have major league experience is still prospecty (yeah I made that word up).
Would you trade Dellin Betances for Domonic Brown GB?
Triple,
I read that the Astros want pitching which is why they are more interested in dealing with the Braves than Phillies.
LGY,
You didn’t get the board memo? Other teams prospects stink and fail all the time. Only Yankees prospects are all sure things.
We just got our trades: Soriano, Chavez and Hughes. An All-Star caliber setup man/closer, a former All-star defensive corner infielder, and a starter who’s previously won 18 games.
Just get a lefty for the pen Cash.
LGY-
EVERYBODY wants pitching.
It’s gold.
I just want to know where “CY” Weiland & “Babe” Middlebrooks are on that list.
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G.Love-
I’ve been searching for hours and can’t find one. Even looked under Peter Gammons and fantasy!!
Sending down Garrison was an easy decision to make.
Who to send down tomorrow to make room
for Nova will be very, very difficult.
Any idea who the person will be??
“I just want to know where “CY” Weiland & “Babe” Middlebrooks are on that list.”
Just as Chinese restaurants have “secret menus” that only Chinese people seem to know about, BA, BP, and MLB.com have “secret prospect lists” that only Peter Gammons knows about.
Ramiro Pena
Houston wants considerably more than Brown for Pence. The defense hasn’t been exactly stellar, either.
G. Love
Of course.
I wouldn’t even trade Dante Bichette Jr. aka greatest first round pick ever for Brown. Definitely not Segedin who is next Wade Boggs.
Maybe I would trade Austin Krum since he is a Brett Gardner clone and as we all know Gardner stinks.
Jets out on Asomugha. YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tom in N.J.
lol
For those of you who are not familiar with Kuroda, he’s a fine pitcher and will help the Yanks down the stretch….The thing is he’s only here for a few months and The Yanks need another high end arm to go with Sabathia looking forward….I still feel that Hughes will be that guy in 2012 and beyond…..This season could be a washout though…..
LGY July 29th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
Triple,
I read that the Astros want pitching which is why they are more interested in dealing with the Braves than Phillies.
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Might have to sacrifice Mike Minor as the centerpiece of a deal. Pence would go to CF?. Not sure if that will be enough offense, with Chipper still hobbling, McCann out with an oblique injury.
Let’s win the next 3, and hope the Sox lose the next 2. Even Steven.
PeteAbe 2 questions: Can the #RedSox get Jimenez without giving up Middlebrooks or Ranaudo? Is his velo drop a worrisome sign?
I was looking at Ortiz’s numbers, pretty impressive. Wish our DH came anywhere close to them.
David Ortiz, Boston Red Sox
.301/.387/.562, 20 HR, 68 RBIs, 1 SB, 1 CS, 48 BB/50 K
Pat M.-
I don’t think we need another pitcher to get into the playoffs.
IMO we need one who can help us win the playoffs.
I don’t think Kuroda is the man for that.
Pass.
Is it possible that the Yankees might have a better chance getting Huroki Kuroda in August on waiversin August? Lets face it, the Dodgers aren’t going to get much for him in a trade so if the Yankees are patient, they might pick him up for nothing (except $$$) in August.
I’m glad Girardi is taking this approach. I don’t trust Soriano at all right now.
Hope he’s fully recovered.
Gary,
Posada doesn’t like milkshakes
GB7,
Would you trade Betances for Brown?
Soriano is back so he can prove he’s healthy…he has NO no-trade-clause.
Cashman can send him and about $6 million to somebody…
The difference between fans and professional athletes illustrated in less than 140 characters………
michaelstrahan Put down the pipe. Its a job!! RT @ShaqBossGod: @michaelstrahan @JustinTuckNYG91 its should be about the love of football not the money
Triple Short of a Cycle July 29th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Gary,
Posada doesn’t like milkshakes
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Agree with that he just likes taking pitches, striking out and hitting into double plays.
Pat M. July 29th, 2011 at 6:02 pm
For those of you who are not familiar with Kuroda, he’s a fine pitcher and will help the Yanks down the stretch
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Looked up his career and 2011 split stats and I agree his numbers are very good down the stretch. 36 yo FA-What would seal the deal Pat for the Yankees?
MTU, I’d pass too – he’s not worth what the Dodgers are asking for and he’s not a difference maker. Yankees are in a tough spot, but even though the goal is always to win the WS, I’d still rather see them pass on a bad trade even if it means not going deep into the playoffs if we make it
Yanks will make no moves, the team we have is the team we have except for A Rod coming back. I was very happy to see Eric back in the lineup.
I believe Kuroda is better than AJ, Hughes, and his stuff probably profiles better than Garcia in October.
So he would help in the playoffs.
Gotta go.
Catch you all later.
Gary-If the Yankees don’t make a single trade, the reason behind that has to
be because the asking price was far too high.
Whatever happened to an even trade? I guess that was yesterday.
Today teams are asking for several players in return for a player that may be on a team
for only a few short months.
Talk about a rip-off!!!
Is it possible that the Yankees might have a better chance getting Hiroki Kuroda in August on waivers in August?
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No. Even if he waived his NTC, he’d be claimed by a NL team before the Yankees even had a turn to put in a claim.
“PeteAbe 2 questions: Can the #RedSox get Jimenez without giving up Middlebrooks or Ranaudo?”
All the kool-aid in Boston has been spoken for.
Nick,
Did you see Hank’s twitter reply to ole Pete Abe yet?
LGY,
Interesting idea about trading for and flipping Brown for Ubaldo. I wouldn’t trade Betances for Brown but if I could do it and then flip him for Ubaldo rather than Montero I would like that.
Warning Track Power July 29th, 2011 at 6:11 pm
Gary-If the Yankees don’t make a single trade, the reason behind that has to
be because the asking price was far too high.
Whatever happened to an even trade? I guess that was yesterday.
Today teams are asking for several players in return for a player that may be on a team
for only a few short months.
Talk about a rip-off!!!
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Too many teams, too few star players. The system has driven it to this point. The asking price is always going to be high. This team has too much inconistent hitting and pitching to make it all the way.
Trader, It will depend on what the other clubs are willing to trade and how much coin they want to fork over to him in order to lift hi no-trade clause……It’s a salary dump for McCourt and MLB for that matter….I do not see LA getting much in return for him……The guy is good though
Is it possible that the Yankees might have a better chance getting Hiroki Kuroda in August on waivers in August?
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No. Even if he waived his NTC, he’d be claimed by a NL team before the Yankees even had a turn to put in a claim.
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Good point about teams in the NL having the first shot at him and that proabably would happen. I do have a question about the No Trade Clause for players who are put on waivers. That is, if Kuroda is put on waivers and claimed by another Major League team, isn’t he required to report to the new team. That is, if he turns down the claiming team , isn’t he in violation of his contract? Wouldn’t he have to forfeit the rest of his salary?
Pete Abe is delusional……I don’t think thy could get him with those two much less without them without pulling from the big league club. They said they want top prospects……not the best of a depleted system
AdamSchefter Nnamdi looks headed to the…Eagles.
MikeVacc Everyone was wondering what “Nnamdi” meant? Apparently it means “Cliff Lee.”
I posted this earlier but because Hideki Irabu was mentioned in the lead-in, I am going to post it again. I’m actually more concerned about this and about his family than I am tonight’s game. You’ll have to forgive me…
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I’ve been really bothered by Hideki Irabu’s death and feel the need to say something about it. I was always a huge supporter of the Boss and was never put off by his tirades. I felt it was his money and his team and if he wanted to use a tirade as a motivator, so be it. But the one time that really got to me is when he called Irabu the name he did. I thought it was awful and it broke my heart for Irabu. I’m sure we all realize that the Asian cultures are very different from western cultures and certainly different from the ways of the US. I’m not surprised to read that Irabu was never the same after George Steinbrenner said those things about him. Steinbrenner apologized but maybe (apparently?) the damage was done. I have no idea whether that set all of the dominoes in motion that eventually led to this point – there is no way of knowing – and personally I wouldn’t want to know because the thought of that possibility is too horrible.
I feel such a sadness about this that I could easily cry if I thought about it much more. Words certainly can wound; and though some are impervious to the barbs of others, not all are. And the more significant the relationship, the more the potential for real hurt and damage.
RIP Hideki. Whatever the demons, there are certainly no more to harm you now.
Hope everyone is well.
Take care and goodnight.
Philly did it again Smh.
The Yanks will do something. I just wouldn’t expect any blockbusters.
Betsy, Kuroda will not cost the Yanks much in terms of talent it’ll be a cash deal more than anything….I’ve seen this guy pitch alot and he’ll be a wonderful pickup…..I don’t any of the writers know swat about him and most never seen the guy pitch for that matter……You can easliy pull up video on all these guys if you devout an hour or so to do your own research rather than the twits who write the crap that many trust
Kuroda is more likely to help win the division than a playoff series…..and because the Yanks are likely going to make the playoffs with or without him I just don’t see giving up a lot to get him. If he can be had cheaply then fine……
Outstanding comment Tricia on a very sad situation….
Blake-
What pitcher/pitchers are you giving the Rockies? They already have Fowler, Cargo, Smith& Spillborghs in their OF
Nick in SF July 29th, 2011 at 6:12 pm
“PeteAbe 2 questions: Can the #RedSox get Jimenez without giving up Middlebrooks or Ranaudo?”
All the kool-aid in Boston has been spoken for.
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LMAO
Answer to Pete-Yes you can. Start with Daniel Bard and Josh Reddick and go from there.
Pat M, if we don’t have to give up much, then that’s ok….no prime prospects for him. Still and all – I’m skeptical of NL pitchers coming to the AL
Pat M.
That’s why all the trade talk bores me so much. Most of us have never seen these men play, except in statistics. The people who are in charge of quarter-billion dollar payrolls may be better qualified to judge who’s worth what.
Cust DFA’d to make room for Bedard.
M’s currently have six starters in their rotation.
eeny, meeny, miny mo
Giuseppe Franco July 29th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
The Yanks will do something. I just wouldn’t expect any blockbusters
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Not confident of that, this cuture of denial and acceptance of poor performance that you hear often makes me think that the front office is pretty happy about the guys out there.
Trader,
Nova, Warren, etc…..wouldn’t have Betances because he’d go for Brown. Its a convoluted but interesting plan.
Yankees get: Ubaldo
Philkies get: Pence.
Astros get: Betances + prospects
Rockies get: Brown, Nova etc….
Chances of this happening are like 0.01 %
Can we get a weather update
from t
Can we get a weather update
from The Bronx?
# Gary July 29th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Not confident of that, this cuture of denial and acceptance of poor performance that you hear often makes me think that the front office is pretty happy about the guys out there.
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When was the last time the Yanks didn’t make a single move before the deadline?
It’s been awhile. They always do something, even if it’s relief or bench help.
I’m just hoping they give Montero a shot. There’s no reason to keep him in Scranton when the big club could use him.
Tarp on the field.
Raining right now, Track.
More expected later this evening.
I do have a question about the No Trade Clause for players who are put on waivers. That is, if Kuroda is put on waivers and claimed by another Major League team, isn’t he required to report to the new team.
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If a team claims a player off waivers and has a viable claim as described above, his current team (the “waiving team”) may choose one of the following options:
arrange a trade with the claiming team for that player within two business days of the claim; or
rescind the request and keep the player on its major league roster, effectively canceling the waiver; or
do nothing and allow the claiming team to assume the player’s existing contract, pay the waiving team a waiver fee, and place the player on its active major league roster
The waiver “wire” is a secret within the personnel of the Major League Baseball clubs; no announcement of a waiver is made until a transaction actually occurs. Many players are often quietly waived during the August “waiver-required” trading period to gauge trade interest in a particular player. Usually, when the player is claimed, the waiving team will rescind the waiver to avoid losing the player unless a trade can be worked out with the claiming team.
Simply put-Once the Dodgers inform him that he’s been claimed, and have a trade in place,Kuroda would did still have to waive his NTC.
Had to look this all up!!
“I post on here on and off for almost 3 yrs and this is the 1st time you respond to me?”
hardwired-
your comment about the best yankee pitcher i ever saw at that age was so profound i fast tracked you from the “wait for five years to respond to list” to the “respond after three years list”.
Incidentally, I was checking the invaluable Baseball Reference for Irabu’s game logs.
I see a late July win over Seattle in ’98, but Fassero was starting. Another in ’99 with Mac Suzuki starting. Don’t see a win over Randy. Anybody remember that one?
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