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Game 105: Yankees vs. Orioles (nightcap)

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Yankees lineup
1. Derek Jeter SS
2. Curtis Granderson CF
3. Mark Teixeira 1B
4. Robinson Cano 2B
5. Nick Swisher DH
6. Andruw Jones RF
7. Russell Martin C
8. Eduardo Nunez 3B
9. Brett Gardner LF
Ivan Nova RHP

Orioles lineup
1. J.J. Hardy SS
2. Nick Markakis RF
3. Adam Jones CF
4. Vladimir Guerrero DH
5. Mark Reynolds 1B
6. Matt Wieters C
7. Nolan Reimold LF
8. Josh Bell 3B
9. Robert Andino 2B
Zach Britton LHP

TV/Time: YES/7:07
Umpires: Andy Fletcher HP, Jim Reynolds 1B, Mike DiMuro 2B, Mike Estabrook 3B
Weather: Clear, 87

Tough cut: Poor Chris Dickerson. He goes 2 for 4 with a stolen base in the first game and then gets sent to Triple-A to make room for Nova. Dickerson goes down batting .321 (9 for 28) with four RBI.
Cold Birds: The Orioles won the first game in the series, but after losing the first game of the twinbill, they have dropped three of their last four, six of nine and 16 of 21.

Update, 7:22: Nova needed 30 pitches to get through a scoreless first. Gardner bailed him out with a sliding catch with two outs and the bases loaded on two singles and a walk.

Update, 7:34: RBI single for Cano, 1-0.

Update, 7:37: Swisher gets an RBI after Hardy bobbles his bouncer to short and throws late to first, 2-0.

Update, 7:39: Andruw Jones hammered that ball, RBI double to the base of the fence in left-center. Second and third, one out, 3-0 already.

Update, 7:41: Martin lines an RBI single to right, 4-0. Britton, by the way, is just back up from Double-A Bowie. He pitched well against the Yankees in a May start, one unearned run allowed in seven innings.

Update, 7:42: RBI single through the middle for Nunez, 5-0. There’s warmup action in the Orioles’ pen. It’s righty Jason Berken.

Update, 7:46: Infield hit for Gardner, bases loaded. The Yankees have batted around, still one out.

Update, 7:48: Two-run single for Jeter, 7-0. Britton is done, 10 batters, one-third of an inning pitched.

Update, 7:54: Teixeira lines a two-run double into the right-field corner off Berken with two outs, 9-0.

Update, 7:59: Cano lines an RBI single to right-center, 10-0. Anyone have a white flag to hand the Orioles?

Update, 8:00: Swisher two-run homer to right, 12-0. Still the first inning.

Update, 8:04: It’s over. 16 batters, 12 runs, 10 hits. This marks the most runs ever scored by the Yankees in the first inning.

Update, 8:10: 1-2-3 second for Nova, nine pitches.

Update, 8:14: Triple for Nunez to leadoff the second. Here we go again?

Update, 8:15: RBI groundout for Gardner, 13-0.

Update, 8:21: Two-run double to left for Cano, 15-0.

Update, 8:32: It’s 15-1. Vlad Guerrero rips an RBI double in the third.

Update, 8:37: Quite a shot by Andruw Jones to open the third, homer to left-center. It’s 16-1.

Update, 8:49: 1-2-3 fourth for Nova.

Update, 8:52: Chris Jakubauskas is the new pitcher. Granderson greets him with a single to right.

Update, 9:05: Nova is cruising now, another 1-2-3 inning. He has allowed a run anf four hits through five. What should the Yankees do with him? Send him back to Triple-A. He belongs up here. He’s rookie, yet he’s going to have nine wins after this game. There still seems to be no room at the inn.

Update, 9:15: The Orioles have just traded reliever Koji Uehara and cash to Texas for infielder Chris Davis and starter Tommy Hunter.

Update, 9:17: Guerrero hits a solo shot to right-center, 16-2 in the sixth.

Update, 9:18: The Red Sox have acquired infielder Mike Aviles, the former Concordia standout, from the Royals.

Update, 9:20: Ubaldo Jimenez got pulled after one inning from his start with the Rockies. The rumor mill has him going to Cleveland. We’ll see.

Update, 9:30: RBI double for Cano, now has a career-high five hits. He’s coming out for a pinch runner, Cervelli. It’s 17-2. The Yankees have 20 hits. It’s the sixth inning.

Update, 9:41: 1-2-3 seventh for Nova, having an excellent game after a shaky first.

Update, 9:51: Career hit 3,020 for Jeter, ties Rafael Palmeiro for 24th on the all-time list. Bases loaded, one out in the seventh.

Update, 9:53: Granderson hits into a 1-2-3 double play. 17-2, heading for the eighth. Yankees have 22 hits. Luis Ayala is on to pitch. Nova allowed two runs and six hits over seven.

Update, 10:09: Mike Gonzalez got hit with a Teixeira liner here in the eighth and is coming out. Troy Patton will come on. It’s 17-3.

Update, 10:13: Rafael Soriano is warming up.

Update, 10:30: Soriano has a 1-2-3 ninth with two Ks. The Yankees finish with 24 hits. They win, 17-3, to finish the sweep.

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998 Responses to “Game 105: Yankees vs. Orioles (nightcap)”

  1. Yanks78 July 30th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    jonmorosi
    BULLETIN: Drew Pomeranz scratched from start at AA Akron. #Indians are known to be serious about Ubaldo Jimenez.

  2. Stoneburner July 30th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    Hat tip to Cleveland. . .

  3. kd July 30th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    you really have to give cashman and his team credit for drafting/signing all of the catchers that they have in their system. it’s a real strength of the system

  4. ron July 30th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    I think cashman is spot on in not wanting to put montero with one of betances/banuelos in a package.

    If i am cashman,i call them & offer montero,hughes,nunez & if it does not work,close the book on him.

    Adams & laird replace nunez who is not good defensively,jimenez replaces hughes,so montero is the loss.

    We have murphy,romine,sanchez to cover for montero.

  5. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Went to the first game today. Very nice weather, unless you?re directly in the sun for the whole time,

    Bottom of the lineup really delivered. Chavez looks like a real pro, 2 months on the DL and looks like he hasn?t missed a day.

    Betances and Nova for Jimenez. Although, their checking out Span makes me wonder if he could be part of the deal somehow. Don?t know Colorado?s needs for OF. But, Betances and Nova, nothing more. Detroit wasn?t giving them Porcello, Sherzer, Turner, and Boesch, why should Yanks get ripped?

    Maybe Cleveland has a deal with someone else? Detroit didn’t bit on Colorado’s demands.

  6. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    LGY…..I saw your question about making the trade for Ubaldo…..Man, ever since I heard last week that the clubs were talking about this my concern was no Banuelos and then find a way to hold onto Nova…..If push came to shove I’d make the deal…..Noesi spells Nova, Romine will give yo 70 % of Montero with better defense and of course Ubaldo will outshine Dellin….Tough decision, but it’s the only way the Yanks have a chance st going all the way in the next few years….Also it’s a selling point to CC

  7. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Montero with a 1st inning RBI single

  8. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Nova looks very sharp so far, hopefully he pitches well and then Cashman and Girardi have a decision to make on him taking Phil’s spot in the rotation. Hughes needs to actually work for something instead of getting it handed to him.

  9. ron July 30th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Looks like something might happen with colorado & the indians.

    Darn cashman.

  10. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    ron – agreed. The only thing about Montero is that he represents the only big bat (albeit a potential one) that the Yanks might have available for the stretch drive.

  11. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:14 pm

    TroyRenck
    Rox in serious talks w Indians. Hearing would center around pomeranz Alex white and kipnis

  12. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    TroyRenck Rox in serious talks w Indians. Hearing would center around pomeranz Alex white and kipnis

  13. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    Pat M. – I don’t think Cash will get outbid for Jimenez, unless Colo really overplays their hand – demanding all 4 of Montero, and those pitchers, for instance.

    High stakes poker. Very high stakes.

  14. Yanks78 July 30th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    “Nova looks very sharp so far, hopefully he pitches well and then Cashman and Girardi have a decision to make on him taking Phil’s spot in the rotation. Hughes needs to actually work for something instead of getting it handed to him.”

    Agree 100%. He should have never been removed to begin with.

  15. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Betances and Nova for….

    2012 Yankee rotation :D :D :D

  16. REZ12 July 30th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    TroyRenck
    Rox in serious talks w Indians. Hearing would center around pomeranz Alex white and kipnis

    —————

    For those in the know – are these players the equal of what COL was demanding from us?

  17. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Nova’s performance will determine whether he goes to Colorado, or Noesi. Just a guess.

  18. rr212 July 30th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Looks like the Indians will land Ubaldo. yanks have no answer against a playoff caliber team’s number 2. I don’t trust Bartolo or AJ in that spot.

  19. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Noesi can fit into the rotation too….

  20. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Guys, don’t get depressed. Way to early.

  21. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Seems like Jimenez is off to Cleveland…………I can’t say I blame Cashman, but he really has to be right about these players.

  22. Mike Ri July 30th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Can’t wait to see Colon pitching in the playoffs as our number 2 .

  23. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    Pitch count getting up high for the first inning.

  24. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    After he reaches 600 homers, I think Thome will be placed on waivers, along with other hitters like that.

  25. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    As execs have believed all day, Indians appear to be team with best shot at Ubaldo. If Pomeranz in the trade, COL did well, says GM #trades
    7 seconds ago

  26. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Joe, I do not believe Cashman will cave. I don’t know what the sticking point is – is it Nova? That’s silly. Nova and Montero? Nova, Montero and Betances? Is he willing to trade both? Well at least it appears that ownership is not pushing Cashman to make a deal

  27. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Nova is throwing too many pitches to put away batters

  28. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    This is what happens when you have a pitcher than can’t miss bats.

  29. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
    sources say cleveland engaged in serious talks with #rockies. lhp pomeranz was scratched for cleveland. a sign?
    40 seconds ago

  30. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Throwing way too many pitches this inning. WAY TOO MANY.

  31. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    jonmorosi Jon Morosi
    Sources tell @Ken_Rosenthal and I that #Indians and #Rockies in serious talks about Jimenez deal. Pomeranz and White both in discussions

  32. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:21 pm

    Eatin’ a lot of pitches up in the 1st inning

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    It’s understandable they wanted to see if Hughes had it back. He won 18 games for them last year & was great against Minnesota before tiring. They probably have enough information to restore Nova to the rotation.

    Everyone who wants to dump Hughes will be singing a different tune when he gets his mojo back next season.

  34. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    REZ12,

    Pretty much. Pomeranz is 14th compared to Montero’s 8th and Kipnis is 31 compared to Betances who is 26

  35. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Nova missed the outside corner everytime he tried to hit it. Martin should of tried something else.

  36. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Nova in trouble already. That is a ton of pitches to start the game. He’ll be lucky to go 3 innings.

  37. Kelvin July 30th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    If he goes to Indians im happy. My only concern is losing montero and manban

  38. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Nice catch by Gardner

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Nice play Gardner

  40. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Bad deal for Cle if they do it. IMO they aren’t legitimate contenders. Yankees,Sox and Rangers all beat them in a playoff series. Plus are they going to be able to resign him when he comes up for free agency?

  41. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Pomeranz might be rated high, but he is only in AA.

  42. m July 30th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Hoot.

  43. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Manny is going nowhere…..
    I think they have made that pretty clear (short of Felix)…

  44. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    I have to say – Brett is pretty good in the field. First game, the sun was brutal, no clouds – and he made some pretty tough catches look easy, especially late in the game when the sun was peering in right at his eyes when trying to track the fly balls……

  45. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    That inning is a prime example of why I want the Yankees to look to sell on Nova and keep Noesi.

    30 pitches, 1 swinging strike.

  46. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Still think that Cash should call the Mets about Santana.
    This team can get to the playoffs as is, and he can be ready by then, hopefully….

  47. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    “Nova looks very sharp so far, hopefully he pitches well and then Cashman and Girardi have a decision to make on him taking Phil’s spot in the rotation. Hughes needs to actually work for something instead of getting it handed to him.”

    *************

    Really?

  48. ron July 30th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Joe from Long Island :

    I just don’t think we have the pitching to go far so montero’s bat won’t matter much anyways.

    I’d rather have elite pitching first,worry about offense later.

    I know you need a certain amount of offense to win but you only need just enough & more importantly,at the right time.

    Relying on a prospect who never played in a ml game to be a big bat considering he will struggle at some point is a risky proposition.

  49. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Troy Renck, Rockies
    by AndrewMarchand
    Jimenez still pitching as of now. Told me as much 5 mins ago. But Indians is not just talk. Has real chance of happening
    1 minute ago

  50. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Yogi Mantle,

    So is Betances

  51. Mike Ri July 30th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    I agree ac1—

    The Yanks should call the Mets about Santana

  52. rr212 July 30th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Who is gonna be the 2nd starter next year and the year after?

  53. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Jimenez going to Cleveland? Is that as much a lock at Cliff Lee going from Seattle to the Yanks last year? ;)

  54. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    I’m liking Ubaldo more and more. Great play by Gardner! How does Jeter stare at that 3rd strike?

  55. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    rr212,

    Can you get the lotto numbers while you’re at it?

  56. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
    #indians are in lead for ubaldo, top pitcher on market. no word of deal yet tho. #tradedeadline
    11 seconds ago

  57. m July 30th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    Alex White has been scratched from his 1-inning rehab start. Hmmm…

  58. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    LGY….I lresponded to your trade question earlier in this thread……

  59. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 7:29 pm

    I’m sure CC wouldn’t mind having a stud like Ubaldo next to him in the rotation. May be a little easier for him to not opt out now with Jimenez.

  60. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Pat M

    I saw. I agree with you. I would do Montero+Betances+Nova.

  61. m July 30th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Did Hunter fall that far?

  62. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    Cashman is not going to budge, IMO…………

  63. rr212 July 30th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Triple, real mature. Is that bc I said that we don’t have a number 2 starter that matches up against a playoff caliber team? If so, please advise why I’m wrong. I very well may be wrong, but you don’t have to make an asinine comment like that.

  64. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    This is feeling eerily similar to Cliff Lee re-signing with the Phillies.

  65. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    Betsy….Budge from what ???

  66. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    So with Ubaldo likely going to CLE will the Yankees actually call up Montero or will they keep him in Scranton so Cashman can keep “Top 5 Farm System” on his resume?

  67. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
    I can also confirm from a person involved in talks that #Rockies are moving toward trading Ubaldo to #Indians
    39 seconds ago

  68. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    The Yankees don’t think of Jimenez as an ace -that’s why they aren’t giving up 2 of their 3 best prospects plus a promising pitcher in Nova. Cashman is valuing the future more than the present, apparently – which is fine IF these guys pan out.

  69. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    rr212,

    But asking who the Yankees number 2 starter for 2012 and 2013 isn’t asinine?

  70. Yanks78 July 30th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    “Who is gonna be the 2nd starter next year and the year after?”

    Colon, duh.

    He might be 40, but who cares?

    Plus, there is always a chance AJ Burnett turns into Curt Schilling and harnesses his stuff, at age 35.

    Hughes also might develop 3 plus pitches that he actually throws in the off-season and be the ace he was supposed to be.

    Either way, CC is going to take us to the cleaners in negotiations this winter. Cash better be ready,

  71. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Pat M, Cashman is not going to trade Montero, Nova and Betances – that’s pretty obvious to me. I don’t know which one is the sticking point – if it’s Nova, that’s silly – but it’s probably the idea of trading Montero and Betances. I think the deal with the Indians will be done in relatively short order.

  72. MG July 30th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Britton has good stuff, he started out 6-1 and wound up back in AA…

  73. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    ron – I can’t disagree with anything you said.

  74. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    I’m not sure why this is a surprise, though. Cashman gushed about the 3 B’s in ST and said Betances was their best pitching prospect ever…………that’s not a guy they are going to be so willing to trade.

  75. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Weird trade for the Indians, a good 1st half doesn’t make them a play off team. I don’t know anything about the prospects they are giving up but they are rated as their top 2,3 and 4. That’s a lot to give up considering they only have him for 2 more years. They better hope they contend in that time span.

  76. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Nice sneak hit there.

  77. kd July 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    great job of hitting my robbie. you know he’s going well when he goes the other way

  78. Salliedogs7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Don’t you know Cano!

  79. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    oelsherman1 Joel Sherman
    The way it was described to me by involved party was talks are “down the tracks” between #Rockies #Indians for Ubaldo. #Yankees not involved
    1 minute ago

  80. BTX July 30th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    None of the other prospects that he touted panned out in pinstripes, why would these guys be any different? He is not even giving Montero a chance while his DH/C combine to hit .200.

  81. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Cash gushed about Betances and Rivera gushed about ManBan this afternoon….

  82. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    When it comes down to it, Sox have Lester/Beckett. Yanks could have CC/Ubaldo. You have to think that Cashman has to look at this as playing a team 19 times and meeting in the playoffs. The Jays are adding quality players. AL East is tightening up. To have a guy of Ubaldo’s talent there for the taking then you take him. Giving up unproven players is a gamble, but players of Jimenez talent don’t grow on trees either. GO get him Cashman!

  83. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    If the CLE-COL deal of Ubaldo Jimenez gets done, Kipnis probably won’t be a part of it. #trades

  84. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Cashman is not going to trade Montero, Nova and Betances
    ——–

    If you trade that package you better get back a Verlander, Kershaw or Felix. Not Ubaldo who has a 4 era in the nl.

  85. Salliedogs7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Swishalicious!

  86. MG July 30th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    the O’s are showing why they are a last place team…

  87. 4time July 30th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Betances is the best pitching prospect ever… wonder if that will turn out to be as accurate as Hughes turning into Roger Clemens.

    You can totally see Levine/Hal giving CJ Wilson a 6 year deal, can’t you?

  88. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Giving up unproven players is a gamble, but players of Jimenez talent don’t grow on trees either. GO get him Cashman!
    ___

    Would be nice to see more than 1 / 2 of a good season before we decide how great Jimenez is….

  89. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    Well, if there was any doubt about Colorado trading Ubaldo I think we can put that notion to rest…..

  90. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    If Kipnis isn’t part of the deal then it just proves once again that teams continue to ask the Yankees for more. That’s why they haven’t made a significant deadline deals in years

  91. rr212 July 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    triple,

    Isn’t it a fair question? Do you know? Am I missing something here? It is only a question. I wasn’t being rude or anything. I don’t think it warranted the response about lottery tickets. I was just asking a darn question.

  92. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    A core of a Ubaldo deal of Pomeranz and Alex White is regarded as excellent for COL by rival execs. #trades
    33 seconds ago

  93. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    Clutch, while I wouldn’t do it, to be fair – those players are completely unproven. Who’s to say any of those will be big time players? Montero’s the guy I wouldn’t give up mostly because this lineup is aging big time and I’m hoping he can anchor the lineup at some point. Tex can’t do it.

  94. kd July 30th, 2011 at 7:40 pm

    think cahsman has turned his attention to liriano? or king felix? (a guy can dream, can’t he?)

  95. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    I can’t believe that ball didn’t go out

  96. Salliedogs7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Jones shooting the gap.

  97. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Yeah let’s DFA Andruw Jones :roll:

  98. Mike Ri July 30th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Captain Clutch -

    really ??

    Nova—- he’s having an ok season .. but please lets not overvalue a number 4 pitcher
    Montero — a good bat without a postion
    Betances – a good prospect. . but you have to give to get

    i’d make the trade for Jimenez in a second giving up these guys . . . imo

  99. MG July 30th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    LoHud’s favorite whipping boy, Andruw Jones, just crushed one.

    Take that, Lohud!!!!

  100. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    Pat M, that’s true, and that makes me wonder about him. Now that I think about it, I’m glad it doesn’t appear the Yankees are going to get him. There’s no reason for them to be this insistent about trading him – how many teams trade their franchise pitchers, pitchers who are young and with good contracts to boot?

  101. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:42 pm

    If Kipnis isn’t part of the deal then it just proves once again that teams continue to ask the Yankees for more. That’s why they haven’t made a significant deadline deals in years

    —————-

    Not really. Pom and White are both top prospects. The Rockies asked for Montero+Betances+Nova. Nova is easily replicated by the Indians depending on the others in the trade.

  102. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    yankees tried to sneak hughes into a deal with the rockies?

  103. Kelvin July 30th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    No ac1 don’t think so

  104. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    Unbelievable Cashman. SMH.

    Joelsherman1
    #Yankees took all #Rockies wanted off table – Banuelos, Betances, Montero, Nova – and offered Hughes and others. #Rockies infuriated (cont)

  105. MG July 30th, 2011 at 7:44 pm

    I don’t follow prospects but Alex White, from his stats, looks like a pretty good one. Excellent ERA at every level, goes deeper than the Yankees prospects in games, and, based on his W-K ratio, commands the strike zone better.

  106. 4time July 30th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    SI_JonHeyman
    ubaldo was scratched. looks like a deal. #rockies, #indians

  107. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    Ubaldo taken out of the game.
    Let’s move on now…

  108. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    That’s beyond ridiculous – I don’t blame the Rockies for being upset. Give me a break, Cashman.

  109. 4time July 30th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Sherman –

    #Yankees were trying to sell their trouble RH Hughes plus for #Rockies troubled RH, but Rox don’t see Ubaldo as troubled at all

  110. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
    #Yankees were trying to sell their trouble RH Hughes plus for #Rockies troubled RH, but Rox don’t see Ubaldo as troubled at all

  111. Kelvin July 30th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    Good for cash, believe in the youngsters.

  112. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:46 pm

    LGY,

    Montero and Betances are top 50 prospects. White is not. Seems to me they are 1 top 50 prospect of being on par with the Yankees

  113. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    That’s really disgraceful………I didn’t NEED Jimenez, but what the hell was he pulling? That’s trash

  114. Salliedogs7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Gardner is quick.

  115. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Smooth move Cashman.

  116. kd July 30th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    lgy,

    cash likely has something else in motion

  117. 4time July 30th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    lol, so Cash refuses to include any of his 4 best chips, then tries to get them to take Hughes off their hands and portrayed it as a “my troubled player for yours” deal.

    Hilarious. Did he learn how to negotiate with Jack Z over the winter?

  118. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Even if you weren’t going to deal for Ubaldo, now Cashman has pissed off O’Dowd for future dealings.

    Real smart. That’s some Jack Z ish from Cashman.

  119. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:47 pm

    Wow – were the Yankees actually comparing Hughes to Jimenez? That makes Cashman look unbelievably foolish

  120. mike10778 July 30th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Pomeranz and White are both top prospects…

  121. Mike Ri July 30th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Cash is a joke ! …… Can’t wait to see Stem Cell Arm pitch as our number 2.

  122. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Triple

    White was ranked 47 by BA entering the season. He’s not on the midseason lists because of his promotion to the big leagues and his injury.

  123. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Montero’s the guy I wouldn’t give up mostly because this lineup is aging big time and I’m hoping he can anchor the lineup at some point
    ———-

    Agree. I definitely wouldn’t trade Montero. The offense is getting old and guys like him don’t grow on trees. For years we have been hearing how special his bat is now let’s see what he can do.

  124. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Trying to pawn off Hughes for Ubaldo?

    Utter stupidity.

  125. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    LGY, yes – totally agree. It’s bush league – what, he got pissed off at the Rockies because they were asking for a lot? It’s their player- they can ask for whatever they want. It’s just time for him to go already………..and now he looks bad. His rep has to take a hit.

  126. ralphfl July 30th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Oh Hughes remember guys when we would not give him up for guys like halliday felix etc.Oh how you love the guys in AAA till they can’t cut in the bigs

  127. LockDown July 30th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    Sounds like Cashman didn’t want to sell the farm….

    Hopefully we’ll see Montero in pinstripes next week :D

  128. Salliedogs7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Jeter is the man.

  129. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    just get santana, trade nova or something and take the salary….

  130. MG July 30th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    this is getting like the Colon game against Toronto in reverse, I feel sorry for Britton, he hasn’t deserved this tonight.

  131. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Nice, it seems like this inning has been going on forever.

  132. Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    That is not ridiculous. Cash made the smart play. He is demanding fairness and equality. All Yanks should give up for Ubaldo is Hughes+. Hughes is better than Kelly, Kalish+

  133. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Little B*** threw a temper tantrum.

  134. kd July 30th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    meanwhile, yankee bats are alive and well

  135. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    It’s safe to say that Jeter is back. 10 rbi’s on the homestand. Still want to see him hit better against RH.

  136. ET July 30th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Wow, has Hughes’ stock dropped or what. Now he is viewed as a “change of scenery” player.

    If that hasn’t shown Cash not to overvalue guys, nothing will. And if he doesn’t want to trade them, at least bring Montero up.

  137. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 30th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Thanks god we didn’t sell the farm for Ubaldo. Not our guy.

    Unfortunately, “our guy” doesn’t exist on the trade front this season. That is too bad.

  138. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Star Ledger
    Not saying this has been a long first inning, but when it started Ubaldo Jimenez was still pitching for the Rockies.

  139. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    If Montero is here after tomorrow then he should be called up next week.

  140. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    AndrewMarchand Andrew Marchand
    RT @TroyRenck: Hearing deal is done (Ubaldone!!! Headed to Cleveland. What now for the Yankees?) #trades
    20 seconds ago

  141. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    If the Yankees are trying to pawn off Hughes instead of Nova why is Hughes in the rotation over Nova???

  142. tk July 30th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Seems odd that Cash would pull those guys off the table at this point. Perhaps he felt they were being asked to surrender more than CLE? Or maybe he felt they were moving toward a deal and that COL shopped it to CLE like SEA did? Regardless of what happened, I hope the upside is that Montero is called up very soon.

  143. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    LGY,

    Regardless they still asked the Yankees for more.

    Montero,Betances,Nova + is a better package. Spin it any way you want

  144. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    This isn’t about Hughes, this is about Cashman getting a bee up his butt because the Rockies had the nerve to ask a lot for a very good pitcher and then being so immature about it, he pulls his best ones (like that’s going to scare Colorado) and offers a package that he has to know Colorado will find insulting. Unbelievable.

  145. Mike Ri July 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    What now for the Yankees ?/

    —–

    Great Question .. but hey who cares we have a top 5 farm system . . .thats something to be proud of

  146. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    Another exciting trade deadline for Brian Cashman. He’s coming on like gangbusters. Look out Ruben Amaro. You got nothing on this bad boy.

  147. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    It is true…Hughes’ stock has fallen tremendously.

    Was untouchable two years ago.

    I’m sorry, but I’d have to say that Montero plus one of Bettances or Nova was comparable to what the Indians gave up.

  148. Melk Man July 30th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    “If the Yankees are trying to pawn off Hughes instead of Nova why is Hughes in the rotation over Nova???”

    The same reason why Montero is in the minors while Cervelli/Martin/Posada are hitting a combined .200

    Logic and common sense doesn’t resonate in the Yankees world.

    I’m starting to think Cashman may be trying to get fired or at least paving his way to leave. He certainly isn’t auditioning well for others though.

  149. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Do we have another source for this besides Joel Sherman?

    I wouldn’t jump to conclusions.

  150. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    You guys are hysterical. You don’t know what offer was made exactly.

  151. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    What now? A lot of hoping and praying – not just for this year, but for the coming years because we’re going to need 2 of our kids to pan out.

  152. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    I would seriously wait a day or two before taking Sherman’s word at face value. These negotiations get complicated, and who knows who said what and what happened.

    The Yankees offense is getting old. Posada is questionable to cut it as a regular DH. If Montero can catch at all (and seriously, can he be *that* much worse than the last few years of Posada?), then he’ll get enough playing time in the forseeable future. If you trade him, I think you trade him for an impact bat. Like for like.

    Meanwhile the Yankees are abusing the Orioles pitching staff. 9-0.

  153. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Next year at this time we will go through the same thing and people will actually think the Yankees have a chance to trade for a top guy

  154. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Is this inning ever going to end? lol

  155. Salliedogs7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Nice to have a laughter once and while.

  156. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    “I’m starting to think Cashman may be trying to get fired or at least paving his way to leave.”

    Do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds?

  157. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Triple,

    Pom is arguably the best prospect out of the whole bunch. And it’s not like the Yankees actually offered anything close to that. They pulled EVERYBODY off the table.

    Maybe if Cashman didn’t act like Jack Z he could have actually gotten the price down a bit.

  158. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    i love the idea that cashman should just make deals so we can say we made deals at the deadline….

    Jimenez is overrated!!!

    Teams ask more from the Yankees than others, so they need to counter and develop their farm system….

  159. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Deal will involve pomeranz, white, mcbride. Waiting official announcement

  160. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 30th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    The package CLE paid was considerably underwhelming compared to what they were asking for from the Yankees.

    Good move by Cashman to take a pass.

  161. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    The Mad Prince in Pinstripes,

    It was Nova,Betances,Montero +. That is not = to what the Indians gave up

  162. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    So what if O’Dowd is pissed off? what else does he have to trade that NY want’s? Nothing. If he can make stupid dmands, Cashman has every right counter with a stupid counter.

  163. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    Jesus saved from the wrath of Herod!

  164. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    LGY,

    Montero is ranked ahead of Pom

  165. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    If this trade backfires on Cleveland, it’s going to set them back 3-5 years.

  166. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Rockies are infuriated?

    A quick trip into the humidor should take care of that.

  167. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Kuroda stays with Dodgers
    Jimenez going to Indians
    Which pitcher now is on the Yankees radar?

  168. Melk Man July 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Either way, doesn’t look like Hughes’ job is very safe. They have been linked to so many starters (Jimenez, Kuroda, Bedard, Harden, Liriano, Guthrie, Nolasco, Wandy, etc.) and they tried to pawn him off to Colorado anyway.

  169. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Alex White will be nothing more then a mid rotation guy in the NL. They gave up 1 top guy. They wanted 2 from us

  170. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Jesus huggers rejoice!

  171. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    I can’t believe this inning is still going. It’s like a long short rain delay for Nova.

  172. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    LGY,

    Montero is ranked ahead of Pom

    —————-

    Not according to Law IIRC. Prospect rankings aren’t gospel and the difference between a few spots on the lists is nothing.

    The Rockies could have easily had Pom ranked higher than Montero on their internal evaluations.

  173. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Buster_ESPN CLE deal for Ubaldo an aggressive gamble–helps chances to win in’11-13, at high cost. Indians didn’t have concerns other teams did

  174. Mike Ri July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Alex White will be nothing more then a mid rotation guy in the NL. They gave up 1 top guy. They wanted 2 from us

    —-

    they said the same thing about Ian Kennedy

  175. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Unbelievable Cashman. SMH.

    Joelsherman1
    #Yankees took all #Rockies wanted off table – Banuelos, Betances, Montero, Nova – and offered Hughes and others. #Rockies infuriated (cont)
    ////

    CASH YOU ROCK
    (But glad we still have Hughes too)

  176. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Cashman offering Hughes and a list of minor league guys of little relevance is weak…..Cashman is to obsessed with numbers……Cash should have just made the deal once Manny B and then Noesi was taken of the table as Colorado agreed upon…..Cashman’s rep takes a hit much like Jack-Z’s did last July…..

  177. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Okay, I need Elias to tell us if this has happened before.

  178. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Hard to believe with our farm system stacked with good young pitchers and catchers that Cashman can’t find a good major league starter.

  179. kd July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    gotta love this inning!

    gb7 is right. if ubabdo does have some issues, cleveland is in trouble

  180. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Triple Short,

    I agree…the Yanks were asked for way too much.

    Good for CLE though, I’m sure the guys they gave up are quality and perhaps he’ll do we`ll for them.

  181. randy l. July 30th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    the baseball gods like ivan nova pitching for the yankees.

  182. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Way not to cave, Yanks! Free Jesus! Betances–future ace!

  183. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    12 runs?
    Can Nova hold this lead?

  184. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    SWISH you outcha mind, boy

  185. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:00 pm

    Hard to believe with our farm system stacked with good young pitchers and catchers that Cashman can’t find a good major league starter.

    The best ones are a year or two away.

    SWISH! This is embarrassing.

  186. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Holy crap. 12-0 and it’s only the first inning. That is insane.

  187. Melk Man July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    We’re going to have one hell of a rotation in 2014 – CC, Hughes, Betances, Nova, Banuelos

    Bullpen – Warren, Robertson, Joba, Phelps, Noesi, Norton, Brackman

    Lineup – Montero-ARod-Cano-Tex-Laird-Heathcott-Mitch Williams-Sanchez-Gardner

  188. Salliedogs7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Swishalicious second time in this inning.

  189. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    LOL Showalter.

    This inning is amazing.

  190. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    I think I just saw a white towel flying out of the Orioles dugout.

  191. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Pomeranz is at about the same level of development as Banuelos.

    I’m not saying he’s as good as Banuelos, but seems at about the same point.

    White looks like a keeper but can’t be that much better than Nova.

    Who else are the Rockies getting?

  192. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Dellin Deals in the Bronx!!!

  193. 38HotDogs July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    I’m still hoping Cashman can somehow pry Garza away from the Cubs

  194. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    This is crazy….

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Buck “I hate the Yankees” Showalter tells one of his pitchers to hit a Yankees batter soon.

  195. tk July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    GB7,

    I think the Yankees valued Jimenez very differently than Colorado. Thinking about the lack of reported offers for a 27 year old on such a favorable contract, it leads me to believe that the Yankees weren’t alone with those concerns. Seems like a bit of a risk for Cleveland. They get the potential of amazing upside, but it will be interesting to see how his career progresses.

  196. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    I wonder if Jeter can go 2-3….in the 1st inning.

  197. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Nickalicious!

  198. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Andruw must be annoyed. When he started the game a left-hander was pitching.

  199. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    What happens first, this inning ends or Ubaldo has his first crappy start for Cleveland?

  200. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Pat M, the Rockies did budge off of Banuelos, that’s a good point. I don’t get why Cashman was so upset with Colorado – they did what any team trading a very talented player would do : extract as much as they could. He just looks so stupid – I didn’t want to give up those 3 together, but it’s the way that he handled it. Mindbogglingly unprofessional.

  201. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    LGY,

    Every list I have seen has Montero in the top 8. You are citing 1 guy in Law so that makes it true?

  202. Melk Man July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Cashman offering Hughes and a list of minor league guys of little relevance is weak…..Cashman is to obsessed with numbers……Cash should have just made the deal once Manny B and then Noesi was taken of the table as Colorado agreed upon…..Cashman’s rep takes a hit much like Jack-Z’s did last July…..

    ——————–

    Agree 100%

  203. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    that sucks if they were going to include Hughes for Jimenez. And if they’re the same pitcher why try to trade then? Keep the guy who’s pitched in the AL. Glad we didn’t get Jimenez though.

  204. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    White is a comparable prospect to Betances but actually is major league ready.

    You could easily argue that Pom+White>Montero+Betances

  205. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    This is fun!!!!

  206. kd July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    geez, at this rate jeter might get a third at bat this inning

  207. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    I would like to get Garza too…
    Santana is still my suggestion.

  208. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    I still feel kind of blah about this trade to Cleveland. Because now we realize that every team around the Yanks improved and the Yankees still haven’t done nothing. Otherwise, this 12 spot in the bottom of the first is just incredible display of power even with Arod!

  209. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    is this a record for a 1st inning?

  210. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    Melk-Man ….What about 2012-2013 ???

  211. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
    Jesus huggers rejoice!
    ///

    prospect muggers weep!!!

    ///
    of course, this doesn’t mean something else isn’t brewing.

  212. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Where are all the Swisher detractors now? I won’t say I told you so – oh hell yes I will.

  213. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    LGY,

    Every list I have seen has Montero in the top 8. You are citing 1 guy in Law so that makes it true?

    ——————

    And Pom is top 15. What’s the real difference between 8 and 14?

    I am not saying Pom>Montero. I’m saying that it is very plausible that the Rockies value Pom more than Montero.

  214. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    MG,

    Exactly. Amazing that some people on here don’t realize the Yankees as usual were asked to give up more

  215. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Glad Ubaldo is going to Cleveland. Way too much for the Yankees to give up for him, and it is really suspicious that he was being dealt anyway. The Rockies giving up their “ace” for prospects seems a very questionable move.

  216. Kelvin July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Cash did the right thing. None of us are yanks front office so we won’t know 100% exactly what happened.

  217. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    “We’re going to have one hell of a rotation in 2014 – CC, Hughes, Betances, Nova, Banuelos

    Bullpen – Warren, Robertson, Joba, Phelps, Noesi, Norton, Brackman

    Lineup – Montero-ARod-Cano-Tex-Laird-Heathcott-Mitch Williams-Sanchez-Gardner”

    That’s certainly being a bit optimistic, especially with the bats. Still, all of the guys you name have a chance to be at least above-average players in the major leagues. That says something about our system.

    I really hope Hughes is still around – the Yankees have worked so damn hard on him that it would be a shame if he didn’t pan out.

  218. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    This inning is the Yankee tribute to our former Rockie friends.

  219. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    I’ve never seen the Yankees put up a 12 spot in the 1st inning in my lifetime, what an amazing inning…

  220. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    LOL at the Bronx Jeer for the O’s.

  221. cs in la July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    The 12 spot, isn’t the Yankees displaying power, its the O’s playing like crap.

  222. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    Betsy-

    I don’t understand why you are so upset….we just kept our top three prospects and declined making a deal for a pitcher who is not a clear Number two. There is still time to swing a lesser deal and not give up as much.

    PS, the score is 12-0.

  223. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    Cashman is just setting us up for the big unknown loogy deal to come.

  224. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    LGY,

    But you did

    Pom is arguably the best prospect out of the whole bunch. And it’s not like the Yankees actually offered anything close to that.

  225. Yank1 July 30th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Cash offered Hughes as his centerpiece? LMAO

    Boy, he has become a prospect hugger to the max. I’m starting to think the Granderson deal was made by someone above him.

  226. jpb173 July 30th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Buck Showalter looks like he’s pissed off. He’s going over the list of Yankees that he wants to throw at.

  227. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
    Betsy-

    I don’t understand why you are so upset….we just kept our top three prospects and declined making a deal for a pitcher who is not a clear Number two. There is still time to swing a lesser deal and not give up as much.

    PS, the score is 12-0.

    Are you new here? (thought I’d seen you around)

    Betsy needs to find a way to complain about just about everything.

  228. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Actually it is a display of power. 10 hits speak for themselves.

  229. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    LGY,

    But you did

    Pom is arguably the best prospect out of the whole bunch. And it’s not like the Yankees actually offered anything close to that.

    ——————-

    Yes, arguably.

    As in you can make an argument than Pom is a better prospect than Montero.

  230. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    This isn’t the Kennedy assassination, we’ll find out what was offered in short order.

  231. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Pomeranz is in AA. I’m sorry, but to equate a prospect that is in the lower minors, not even in AAA yet, is a stretch. How long till he could contribute? 2 years? Montero could be up in many clubs now, either B might be up next year, probably up for cup of coffee during the expansion of rosters.

  232. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    jaysonst Jayson Stark
    Was told emphatically Ubaldo deal not done. But could happen quickly. Here’s espn.com news story (more to come) #trades es.pn/qKBrjM
    15 seconds ago

  233. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    I hope this is the end of chasing after NL pitchers.

  234. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Nova vs. Hughes….

    Can Nova win with a 12 run lead?

  235. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Buck will rally his O’s by yelling at Jeter again from the dugout.

  236. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Pomeranz is in AA. I’m sorry, but to equate a prospect that is in the lower minors, not even in AAA yet, is a stretch. How long till he could contribute? 2 years? Montero could be up in many clubs now, either B might be up next year, probably up for cup of coffee during the expansion of rosters.

    ——————

    Then why do the Yankees value Banuelos in AA higher than Montero?

  237. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Tex saved another error…

  238. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    if I’m the Yankees I call the Cubs and do whatever needs to be done to get Matt Garza, I think he’d be a really good fit in the Bronx even though he has given up too many HRs in his career.

  239. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Of course the Yanks valued him differently. Colorado was trying to sell the CY Young part of Jiminez. Cashman saw the last 365 day Jiminez. Since O’Dowd wouldn’t come off of that idiotic demand, Cashman slapped him in the head and said FU.

  240. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Let’s see how you folks feel when Gummy Bear Jesus is launching bombs in the Bronx.

  241. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Just because Ubaldo was the best pitcher available that doesn’t mean the Yanks had to empty the farm system for him. I am sure the Yankees liked Ubaldo but didn’t love him. I am happy that Cashman didn’t give up 2 big pieces just to make a trade. Cashman obviously has his limits on players. He had it with Lee, Haren and now with Ubaldo.

  242. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Jack squat-

    Just trying to reason with her….yes I’ve been around for a while.

  243. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Straw, I’ve made it clear why I am upset. I wanted Jimenez – you’re right, I don’t think I would have done that. I’m pissed off at Cashman for acting like a jilted lover. He should have been on that phone with Colorado constantly, trying to negotiate downward – but to honest, as Pat mentioned, they already did come down by not demanding Banuelos. The Rockies had every right to ask for that package – so Cashman gets upset and basically says, ok we’re going to stick it to you and offer a bum package? Cashman looks terrible, IMO, if it went down like this.

  244. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    If true–I love it.

    Cash sent a message to the league. Stop adding a Yankee tax to all trades!!! Or take your business elsewhere!!!!

  245. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Hey. Is 12 a crooked #?

  246. Kelvin July 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    I agree with you gb7 completely.100%. Bashing cashman is weak

  247. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    I guess the Rockies scout watching Nova tonight is on the phone with Delta right now trying to get a plane ticket home.

  248. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Cashman owns.

  249. PacoDooley July 30th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Jayson Stark tweeting “Was told emphatically Ubaldo deal not done”

    Not sure what that means – in the mean time, go Nova!

  250. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Rockies wouldn’t budge off Montero+betances+nova, so why indulge them?

  251. JWeav July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    FREE JESUS!

  252. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Cash obviously has something else up his sleeve.

  253. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Jack squirt, what the hell is your problem? Internet tough guy who’s probably the biggest wimp in the world in real life. I can’t wait to see you take on Pat M and LGY who just basically agreed with me – but wait, why attack them when you can attack me? Have a nice night Jack squirt – Jack sprat – whatever the hell your name is.

  254. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Nova pitching chilly-chill now that he knows he’s not going anywhere. :wink:

  255. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Mind boggling emotional speculation.

  256. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    I am going to toast Cashman when Montero hits his first BOMB off of Ubaldo while Betances is throwing seeds.

  257. Yank1 July 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    “if I’m the Yankees I call the Cubs and do whatever needs to be done to get Matt Garza, I think he’d be a really good fit in the Bronx even though he has given up too many HRs in his career.”

    Yeah, I would do that as well.

  258. jpb173 July 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    If this trade backfires on Cleveland, it’s going to set them back 3-5 years.

    =============================================

    Good point!!! For this Indians this trade is high risk/high reward. Its just my opinion but I’d hate to have my career as a Major League GM be “on the line” because of Ubaldo Jimenez.

  259. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Straw, oh don’t bother……..I love what you’re implying there. You and Jack Squirt can have a pow wow about how unreasonable I am – that should make the evening a bit more spicy.

  260. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    #Yankees took all #Rockies wanted off table – Banuelos, Betances, Montero, Nova – and offered Hughes and others. #Rockies infuriated (cont)
    ==============================
    right again, i dont know why you clowns dont listen to me, i called hughes for ujim straight up right before gametime. you can look it up.

  261. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    TylerKepner Even without Banuelos in deal, the Nova-Montero-Betances package was too high for Yanks to get Ubaldo. Too many red flags since July 2010.

  262. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Well, Nova just needed a 41 minute offense delay, apparently.

  263. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    What Yankee gets drilled within the next two innings?

  264. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    If Ubaldo is a legit #1, he’s with giving up your top prospects for.

    Cleveland apparently considers him an ace. The Yankees did not.

  265. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Why would Kuroda want to stay with LAD? Are these guys just opposed to having to sell their homes? LOL!

  266. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    MG, I would not do that. Garza was mediocre his last couple of years in the AL and he’s not a difference maker – not to the point where I’d give up anything of value for him.

  267. jpb173 July 30th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Yankee Trader July 30th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
    Kuroda stays with Dodgers
    Jimenez going to Indians
    Which pitcher now is on the Yankees radar?

    ========================================

    Ivan Nova!!!

  268. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    So the Rockies “lowered” their demand of Banuelos who Rivera called the best pitching prospect he has ever seen. How big of them

  269. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    no way cash is a fool, col tried to play us for fools

  270. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    BD, that’s what it comes down to and why I wouldn’t have given that up.

  271. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    JWeav July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
    FREE JESUS!
    ///

    :D

  272. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Garza is a head case. Don’t we already have one of those on the roster? :P

  273. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    NUNEY!

  274. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Betsy, your reaction to an internet rumor about Cashman taking everything off the table is way over the top, don’t you think?

    None of us knows what is happening or what will happen and, since we don’t have tapes of the phone conversations, we’ll never have the true facts anyway.

    Jimenez is still a question mark at some level anyway, I’m not sure I’d empty the farm for him anyway even though I was impressed with him the one time I watched him pitch.

  275. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    So the Rockies “lowered” their demand of Banuelos who Rivera called the best pitching prospect he has ever seen. How big of them

    ——————

    He’s the Yankees top prospect according to them.

    Cleveland dealt their top prospect.

  276. PacoDooley July 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    Nunez triple – overkill in a 12-0 game?

  277. 38HotDogs July 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    In between games today – i was playing a little MLB The Show and Nunez had 2 doubles and a grand slam against the Cubs – looks like I brought him a little luck ;)

  278. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    # cs in la July 30th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    The 12 spot, isn’t the Yankees displaying power, its the O’s playing like crap.
    =========================================
    thats nuts. what a difference a single or 10 of them make…

  279. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    LGY,

    Montero is ranked higher

  280. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    If Nunez can’t handle the SS, 3B positions defensively, then I see an OF future for him. His speed and arm and his bat could relate to a OFer

  281. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    The Yankees were asked to give up a guy who has shown middle-of-the-rotation ability, a top prospect with dominant stuff, and one of the most potent bats in the minors. That’s a lot for a guy who has only put it together for stretches at a time.

    White’s maybe a bit better than Betances as a prospect, about equal with Manny. Kipnis and Nova are hard to compare. And I think Montero is a whole lot better proven that Pom.

    I want more confirmation before I believe that Cash pulled a Jack Z and offered Hughes and second-tier prospects. So far all we have is Sherman’s word.

  282. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    Whoever is pitching tomorrow, I hope they have a perfect game in them because chances are very high that the Yankees won’t score many runs tomorrow.

  283. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    The Yankees and Rockies have never played well together. If they demanded too much from Cashman he was right to say no. If he offered Hughes as an alternative, there is nothing wrong with that. I’m sure many configurations were explored. Hughes was an all star last year; he had physical issues and is working through it. That’s hardly an insult.

  284. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    “What Yankee gets drilled within the next two innings?”

    I don’t know but was Nunez supposed to stretch that into a triple and then come home on that ground out?

    My guess is it’s Nunez next time up.

  285. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Betsy, your reaction to an internet rumor about Cashman taking everything off the table is way over the top, don’t you think?
    ==================================
    i wouldnt give any top prospects for ujim and neither would cash, right move, why the drama betty?

  286. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    The package they asked from Detroit was more then they got as well

  287. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    SBerthiaumeESPN Steve Berthiaume
    In his last 2 starts #Orioles Zach Britton has pitched 1 inning and allowed 17 runs, 13 earned. That’s a 113.00 ERA.

  288. PacoDooley July 30th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    has Uboldo been pulled from his start??

  289. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Jason Berken is just having a very bad evening.

  290. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    PacoDooley July 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
    Nunez triple – overkill in a 12-0 game?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, he should have stopped at first base

  291. cs in la July 30th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    honestly, this is s blessing. I think. 3 of our top prospects for him would have been insane. Lets get those guys up here and turn them loose.

  292. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    LGY, Montero is ranked higher

    ——-

    Not according to the Yankees, because Manny is untouchable.

  293. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Chris W,

    Kipnis is not in the deal and how is white better then Banuelos?

  294. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Now that Montero wasn’t traded can they bring him up????

  295. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Oh no, the Rockies are mad at us!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRTngtsOY8Q

  296. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Yanks will end up with Wandy in a cash dump. Which will be fine.

  297. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    insane how people get all twisted over rumors , watch a ballgame and learn the game dammit…

  298. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    I still can’t help feeling like something else is ongoing that I may not like….

  299. PacoDooley July 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:19 pm
    PacoDooley July 30th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
    Nunez triple – overkill in a 12-0 game?

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Yeah, he should have stopped at first base

    ______________________________

    It was just a question, but a stand up double would have made sense. I guess he is a young guy looking for playing time, but most vets would have taken the double there and avoided any risk.

  300. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    “i wouldnt give any top prospects for ujim and neither would cash, right move, why the drama betty?”

    **************

    Because the name Phil Hughes was mentioned, the worst pitcher in the history of baseball haven’t you heard?

  301. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    cs in la,

    According to some here our prospects suck and every other teams guys are better then ours

  302. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    “Kipnis is not in the deal and how is white better then Banuelos?”

    So they didn’t even ask for an ML-ready player from CLE, but demanded Montero? I can’t blame Cash at all.

  303. PacoDooley July 30th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Just saw a tweet about Yankees interest in Liriano – not so pleased by that rumor.

  304. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Meanwhile, the Orioles may have to forfeit. 15-0.

  305. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    this could be another 30 run games

  306. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Cano just added a two point conversion…. :)

  307. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    i smell zambrano but it makes no sense

  308. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    This game is a good example of why cumulative team stats are potentially deceiving.

  309. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Now I think they can take Cano out of the game. Let Cervelli play 3rd base…

  310. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    DUCK!!!!!

  311. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Cleveland really might to all-in. They’re looking at Ryan Ludwick now.

  312. blake July 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    TracyRingolsby 8 mins Ubaldo headed to bullpem. He is starting for Colorado at this time.

    Sounds like not done yet

  313. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Cleveland really might go all-in. They’re looking at Ryan Ludwick now.

  314. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Because the name Phil Hughes was mentioned, the worst pitcher in the history of baseball haven’t you heard?
    ==================
    betty hates hughes don’t ya know?

  315. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Buck getting some pay back for his comments. Couldn’t happen to a “nicer” guy.

  316. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    “This game is a good example of why cumulative team stats are potentially deceiving.”

    I mean, yes, but events like this are rare enough that run scored and runs per game even out to be pretty indicative of a team’s performance.

  317. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    betty has left the building…

  318. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    The Indians better hope that he is healthy….

    Joelsherman1 Post has learned that #Yankees asked #Rockies 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out

  319. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Dammit, Swish, can’t you hit in a clutch situation?

  320. tk July 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    TroyRenck Troy Renck, Rockies
    RT @GordonEdes: Red Sox haven’t abandoned hopes of getting Jimenez, according to M-L source. “Crazy,” the source said.
    1 minute ago

  321. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Liriano would benefit from CC’s guidance….
    He would fit as the #2 in the playoffs.

  322. jpb173 July 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Wow, its the second inning, the Orioles pitcher is up to 50 pitches already…and he wasn’t even the starter.

  323. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Buck getting some pay back for his comments.
    ==============================
    Do we go into a “prevent” offense.
    I don’t think so.

  324. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Sorry, I was confusing White with Pom. White’s still not as accomplished as Nova. Or Hughes, for that matter.

  325. 38HotDogs July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Interesting post by Sherman (if true)
    Post has learned that #Yankees asked #Rockies 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out

  326. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Post has learned that #Yankees asked #Rockies 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out
    ___

    Um…. sounds suspicious to me.
    Good call not trading…

  327. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    What really pisses off the opposition manager is when the team with a big lead starts pulling the regulars and the bench starts hitting home runs.

  328. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    I kind of predicted Yanks would get Wandy plus $10M from Houston for a couple B prospects but there has been no mention of that at all.

    We’ll see. I’m just glad they still have Montero and the B’s.

    For once it’s other teams emptying their farm while the Yanks build on one of the better systems in the game.

  329. tk July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Captain Clutch,

    That explains a lot. You knew the Yankees would get their side out. Cashman wouldn’t pull his offer on emotion.

  330. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    “Joelsherman1 Post has learned that #Yankees asked #Rockies 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out”

    That sounds really ominous.

  331. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Wasn’t there reports that the Yankees traded for Lee last season? Just sayin

  332. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Well let’s see how things shake out, but I’ll tell you right here and now, Ubaldo is a young pitcher you is on the brink of peaking and hitting his stride……As for all those pitchers Cashman has accumulated, well what are you going to do with all of them ??? And Betsy is right about being a punching bag on this as LGY and I have been pushing for Ubaldo far more than she had been….As for Cashman, to completely revised the trade parameters with less than 21 hours remaining is bush……

  333. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Don’t tell Nova that the Ubaldo deal isn’t done yet, it would be good to get 5 innings out of him.

  334. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Mick

    Chill……

  335. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    I thought this was a done deal?? Acc. to Renck, Esmil Rogers was pulled and told to be ready.

  336. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    No physical, no trade good going Cashman

  337. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Chris W,

    Exactly but some here feel like the Indians offer was better then ours

  338. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    “As for Cashman, to completely revised the trade parameters with less than 21 hours remaining is bush……”

    You are assuming that Sherman’s first report is accurate. He just posted something entirely different.

  339. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Joelsherman1 Since #Rockies wouldn’t OK physical for #Yankees, maybe won’t for #Indians also, so let’s wait to see if this is completed

  340. kd July 30th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    that joel sherman tweet tells the whole story. no reason to be mad at cashman

  341. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    I saw it on espn last summer around lunch time that Lee was headed to NY. I was jumping up and down. So it has happened before.

  342. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Red Social still trying for Jimenez

  343. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    + Sox+

  344. bruceb July 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Where was all this offense last night when we needed it? I know. Some people are never happy!

  345. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Amazing how some here are so quick to throw Cash under the bus without knowing all the facts

  346. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Sherman is selling this now about the medicals >>> Then why would Cashman make a counteroffer then ???

  347. kd July 30th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    sherman tweets tell you all you need to know as to why the rockies were trying to trade him

  348. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Sox can’t possibly match haul from the Indians. How could they possibly be in?

  349. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    “Exactly but some here feel like the Indians offer was better then ours”

    Really? McBride is nothing special, .811 OPS at 26 years old. Manny B is a lefty, and I’d say that he’s not much worse than Pom. Betances is less accomplished, but has Ubaldo-like stuff. And Nova has proved more at the major league level.

    I think one of the Bs plus Montero plus Nova is asking an awful lot.

  350. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I don’t see Wandy doing well in the AL. I’d pass on him.

  351. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    “Red Social still trying for Jimenez”

    Is that where you get your gelato?

  352. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    How is Ujim first hitting his peak , he looks like he’s going downhill to me.
    Why is Col hot on trading him?
    Makes no sense looks like they are trying to rob us.
    Even the Cleve deal looks fake, one last try for a steal?
    Cash won’t bite and is right.

  353. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    first Sherman said the Yankees pulled everyone, then he reports the Yankees pulled out 4 days ago.

    that’s why I ignore all these reports, they are predicated, as the great Tony Soprano once told Dr. Melfi, ‘predicated on my a**’

  354. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    As for Cashman, to completely revised the trade parameters with less than 21 hours remaining is bush……

    For the Rockies to not revise their trade parameters with 21 hours remaining is bush.

  355. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    LGY, Red Social? Is that the newest name for Red Sox Nation? lol.

  356. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    To not permit a physical is bush.

  357. randy l. July 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    buck’s gonna drill someone.

  358. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    I don’t want damaged goods for B prospects, let alone my top three prospects.

    Everyone here kills Cash for not giving the kids a chance, and now they are killing him for nit dumping them. There is clearly some other plan in place. You think he doesn’t consult others in ownership and management on these deals? I think this was the right move all the way around. Cleveland can have him…..

  359. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    C’mon Nova. Get more outs.

  360. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    Looks like showalter has his hand over his mouth to try catch the puke.

  361. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    If Cashman didn’t want to deal his prospects and wanted a physical why didn’t he just walk away?

    Instead he tries to prove a point by offering a ridiculous Hughes package and ends up looking like a child.

  362. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    MG, lol, Tony Soprano did have a way with words. :D

  363. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Drill Reynolds. They’re trying to show Nova up by digging in at the plate.

  364. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Nova needs to be pro- active and DRILL SOMEONE FIRST!!!!!

  365. Tom in N.J. July 30th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    @Joelsherman1: Post has learned NYY asked Rox 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out

  366. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    LGY,

    Don’t believe everything you hear

  367. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    Lol guys.

    Blame Nick for my Red Social comment!

    When I went to download skype I also got a new keyboard application.

  368. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    If Cashman didn’t want to deal his prospects and wanted a physical why didn’t he just walk away?

    Instead he tries to prove a point by offering a ridiculous Hughes package and ends up looking like a child.
    —————————————–

    Is that a knock on Hughes?

  369. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Jones reminds me of Rickey when he catches a ball. Not that he flicks his wrist but just in the way that it makes you a little nervous.

  370. randy l. July 30th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    “Instead he tries to prove a point by offering a ridiculous Hughes package and ends up looking like a child.”

    lgy-

    you’re always picking on cashman.

    do you realize how annoying that gets ? :)

  371. Tyler July 30th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    The Sox are probably trying to reacquire Casey Kelly. If they do this then he alone is obviously enough to get Ubaldo.

  372. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    “Instead he tries to prove a point by offering a ridiculous Hughes package and ends up looking like a child.”

    This sounds oddly familiar… Could it have been during the Jeter negotiations, hmmm.

    Only this time I agree with the message. :wink:

  373. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    cash is going ninja on Col’s sorry arse offering hughes to wake him up when they refuse a physical is genius, man in his walk year …

  374. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    pour it on yanks

  375. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Andruw evidently does not agree that he cannot hit right-handers.

    That was a bomb.

  376. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Andruw Jones, you can’t stop him, you can only hope to contain him…

  377. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Are teams allowed to just quit games because I think BAL should just go back to the hotel and call it a night.

  378. Tyler July 30th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    That was an absolute bomb by Jones.

  379. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Wow!! Gradnerson, Tex and Cano better watch out the next time they come up to hit. Buck is going to hit someone. He thinks since we can’t beat you we will just act like children.

  380. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    LOL Tyler. Kelly doesn’t even have to throw a pitch to be successful. He just has to stare in.

  381. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
    Jack squirt, what the hell is your problem? Internet tough guy who’s probably the biggest wimp in the world in real life. I can’t wait to see you take on Pat M and LGY who just basically agreed with me – but wait, why attack them when you can attack me? Have a nice night Jack squirt – Jack sprat – whatever the hell your name is.

    I wasn’t arguing the latest discussion in particular, just your general demeanor over the past few years. And many have made the same observation. You even got banned from another board for this. Maybe when many people say the same thing, they are right, and you are wrong.

  382. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    the only thing Buck wants to do tonight is get this game over, no Yankee is going to get drilled in this game.

  383. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Well were The Phillies trying to hide something when they traded Schilling to Arizona ?? It was a smart move for The Rockies to sell off Ubaldo now as the market demand will never be stronger

  384. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Randy

    I’m coming to the dark side. :D

  385. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    What is the record for runs scored in the modern era?

  386. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Buck Showalter must want to kill Berken for nibbling on a 3-2 pitch trailing by 15.

  387. Don Vito A. Bellamo July 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    http://denver.sbnation.com/col.....g-saturday
    .
    don’t believe the hype

  388. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Seriously, the Cashman bashing is ridiculous. They wouldn’t even make that deal for Cliff Lee, and you them to make it for Jimenez. Some of you are getting too caught up in the contract value of the player and not looking at his performance and durability issues.

  389. Tyler July 30th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
    LOL Tyler. Kelly doesn’t even have to throw a pitch to be successful. He just has to stare in.
    ——————————-

    They will give the Padres Darnell MacDonald to get him back. Then swap him for Ubaldo. Bam, you got Gonzalez and Ubaldo for the legend.

  390. kd July 30th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    do you guys think the trade goes through now that col won’t allow cleveland to give him a physical?

    was schilling hurt when he was traded?

  391. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    How on earth did Nunez make contact with that ball? That was incredible bat-speed.

  392. Don Vito A. Bellamo July 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Ubaldo Jimenez Trade To Cleveland On Hold As Pitcher Starts On Saturday Night

  393. kd July 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    kiethlaw:

    “We want 2 significant prospects for our pitcher who has suddenly lost 3 mph off his fastball, and you can’t do a physical.” “It’s a deal!”

  394. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    HAHA he tried to hit Nunez but he swings at everything. He kind of reminds me of A. Soriano.

  395. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Oh sure, it’s all my fault.

    Does your fancy android phone have a translate app? Maybe you can tell me what “quando arrivo sto gelato” means.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxfUktiNdYY

  396. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    30th double for CoJo.

  397. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Keith Law’s tweet says it all…..yet Cash is the one who looks foolish? Please.

  398. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Are the same people who called Cash out for changing the deal around going to call out Col for refusing a physical?

  399. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    the Yankees can’t even take anyone out of this game, the bench all played the 1st game.

    I’m guessing the next 6 innings go very quickly, there won’t be a lot of deep counts if any.

  400. 4 NYY July 30th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Remember, this is Balt. We’ve got to kick Sux in next series against them. Glad we didn’t give up the farm for one guy. Nova looks good, deserves to start over Hughes, maybe even AJ.

    As far as smiley Jones, a good game now & then doesn’t sell me on him a bit. What he hitting ?
    .220 ?

  401. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Red Sox still in on Ubaldo. Lars Anderson was pulled from tonight’s game. You can’t make this stuff up

  402. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Well were The Phillies trying to hide something when they traded Schilling to Arizona ?? It was a smart move for The Rockies to sell off Ubaldo now as the market demand will never be stronger
    ==================================
    smartass is more like it…cash is no dummy

  403. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Jimenez is pitching right now.

  404. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    I just put on the Rockies game and Ubaldo is starting the 1st inning but a pitcher is warming up in the bullpen..

  405. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Right, Sox with get him for Lars straight up.

  406. Don Vito A. Bellamo July 30th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    funny hoW someone who is scratched from a start is actually pitching now….hmmm

  407. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Why is Ubaldo pitching if he was traded?

  408. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    The first 3 innings has lasted longer than my first marriage.

  409. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I just put on the Rockies game and Ubaldo is starting the 1st inning but a pitcher is warming up in the bullpen..
    ==================
    maybe cleve wants to see if he can get thru the 1st then no need for a physical

  410. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    No physicals, but Rox concede that Jimenez will pitch for just one inning to show all suitors that he is healthy. ;)

  411. 4 NYY July 30th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Who said Nova wouldn’t last 3 innings ?

  412. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Jones is averaging an RBI for every 5 ABs and a HR about every 15, that’s what they signed him for regardless of his average.

  413. G. Love July 30th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    What the heck is going on re: Ubaldo. A Red Sox fan friend of mine just texted me he’s going to the Red Sox?

  414. G. Love July 30th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    I’m at game. Can’t pull up stories on trade. Some guy said Indians got him by emptying farm awhile ago?

  415. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    if the sox get him it will be for nothing

  416. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Red Sox still in on Ubaldo. Lars Anderson was pulled from tonight’s game. You can’t make this stuff up
    ///

    Sure but will anyone miss him?

  417. MG July 30th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    I just flipped over to the Rockies game-Jimenez is throwing about 93-94, you would think he would go out and blow away 3 batters in a row to get him out of town and maybe a new contract.

  418. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Nick

    :D

    Can I eat gelato on our skype conference call?

  419. mick July 30th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    how does cash look if they give him away for a bag of balls
    i say good

  420. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Wouldn’t it be funny if Ubaldo pulls something in the first inning

  421. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    If this game keeps up like this, we might have a couple of .300 hitters by the end of the game. lol.

  422. bruceb July 30th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    I don’t want to lose any of the killer Bs for Jimenez…but I sure as hell don’t want the Red Sox to get him. That would put them over the edge.

  423. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    “As far as smiley Jones, a good game now & then doesn’t sell me on him a bit. What he hitting ?
    .220 ?”

    .236 Which is better than Martin and Posada. Not long before he catches Tex either.

    .263 vs LH and .320 with RISP.

  424. Tyler July 30th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    If he is going to the Sox, they better be giving up Renuado and a couple other players. It will be absolutely ridiculous is Anderson is the big prospect in the deal and the Rockies want that haul from the Yanks.

  425. bruceb July 30th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    No one is willing to make a “fair” trade with the Yankees…that’s just the way of the baseball world. We always have to pay more for everything – including the hot dogs.

  426. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Sox can’t put together a package that matches Clevelands reported offer.

  427. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Ubaldo doesn’t look good at all. I wonder if he heard the rumors and is having trouble concentrating.

  428. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Better yet I’m going to send gelato to all skype call participants.

    Nick is getting Israeli Captain Crunch gelato.

  429. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Ubaldo has already given up 2 runs and is 3-0 on the next batter

  430. kd July 30th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    gotta be hard for him to concentrate. why is he even pitching?

  431. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    glad that the Yankees think a #5 starter, a DH they refuse to call up, and a prospect walking the park in AA isn’t worth Jimenez. this teams going no where in the playoffs.

  432. MG July 30th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Colorado’s idea of having Jimenez throw an inning instead of a physical wasn’t the smartest move of all time, if this were the stock market the Jimenez Index would be down 3% and they’d be calling for a trading a halt.

  433. Stoneburner July 30th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Just a stupid move by Colorado starting Jiminez – great way to guarantee a possible injury

  434. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Ubaldo looks great tonight. Sign me up :)

  435. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Maybe the Indians want to change their minds? lol

  436. blake July 30th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    If Colorado really refused a physical then can’t blame Cash for pulling out…..

  437. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    LGY, when I get my Photon 4G, I’ll head over to North Beach and the skype call can be galato-to-gelato.

    Um… not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  438. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Ubaldo maxing at about 93-94 mph. At least since I started watching.

  439. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Jimenez has already thrown 33 pitches in 2/3 of an inning.

  440. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Ubaldo has given up 2 more runs. 4 runs total in the 1st inning.

  441. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Did they just say Pon was the best prospect in the country?

  442. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Make that 4 runs for SD

  443. MG July 30th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    the Padres put a 4 spot up on Jimenez, he isn’t throwing well at all.

  444. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    The Attorney General doubles in two more.

  445. G. Love July 30th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    If Rockies refused physical the Yankees had to walk.

  446. Yank1 July 30th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Would be funny if Cleveland pulled out after watching Ubaldo get lit up

  447. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Rockies getting a fourth player now

  448. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    YES just showing Jimenez pitching.

    What the heck is that about? Are they doing this to threaten Cleveland? As we know, a deal isn’t done until it’s done.

    Curry reporting that Kuroda is refusing to waive his NTC.

    First he’s being traded, then he’s got something where Colo. refuses a physical exam, now he’s pitching after the deal is “done”?

    The air and oxygen must be very thin in Denver.

  449. m July 30th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    4 days ago the Yankees asked for a physical by Ubaldo and Colorado refused?

    Within their right, and Cash was within his right to back off.

  450. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Orioles aren’t even trying. They’re just swinging just swing

  451. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    Obviously, Nova has a massive lead, but he’s certainly making the case to stay up here. He’s looked very good after the first inning.

  452. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    No crying on this blog when this team doesn’t get out of the ALDS because they don’t have capable starters that can match up with other teams #2 and #3 guys.

  453. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    No physicals allowed, but Colorado is sending out a High Ded DVD of Ubaldo’s MLB commericial:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Pwoqliogcs

  454. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Per heyman, Indians threw in a fourth player…..crazy.

  455. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    The bullpen coach is standing by the phone in the Rockies bullpen waiting for it to ring while a pitcher is warming up. I guess Ubaldo is in the game until the deal is official. Very weird…

  456. MG July 30th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    42 pitches in one inning for Jimenez against those weak hitting Padres, now he’s 2-0 on the pitcher.

  457. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Chris – Nova’s performance in this game is totally meaningless. When staked to a 15 run lead, Mitre could look like an all star. Nova will make his claim by not pitching and letting hughes pitch.

  458. blake July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    You can’t give what Cokoraod was asking without don’t a physical

  459. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Sounds like Rockies sent Ubaldo out there so the Indians would cave on fourth player.

  460. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Ubaldo has no idea where his 93mph fastball is going

  461. kd July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    nova pitching really well. yanks found their #5 guy. send hughes down to work out whatever his issues are

  462. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    So now Colorado’s trying to blow out his arm in the first inning out there? How does that help trade him?

  463. Melk Man July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    I find it hard to believe that all these teams are so involved with Jimenez if COL wouldn’t grant them physicals. Sounds like spin on the Yankees part.

    Cleveland, a small market team with a shrewd GM and no pressure to win, is going to blow up his farm for a guy without giving him a physical?

  464. m July 30th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Why would anyone here cry? This is all beyond our control.

  465. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    its going to be great relying on Aj Burnett/Freddy Garcia/Phil Hughes/Ivan Nova in the playoffs. The Yankees have a right to ask for a physical and the Rockies have the right to say no. Its also very draw a conclusion about a guy because of one outing (i.e.: the one going on right now).

  466. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Carlo,

    Hughes seemed to have a problem with a huge lead

  467. m July 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Colorado needs to make a complaint to mlb. San Diego flashing Sherman’s tweets with Ubaldo on the mound. :mad:

  468. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    M – lotta criers around here.

  469. G. Love July 30th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    You can’t cry if the Indians gave up the farm and the Yanks couldn’t get a fresh physical.

  470. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    “You can’t give what Cokoraod was asking without don’t a physical”

    Blake

    I think you need a designated blogger. :D

  471. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Ubaldo getting hugs in the dugout

  472. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Colorado needs to make a complaint to mlb. San Diego flashing Sherman’s tweets with Ubaldo on the mound.

    Is this true? If so, hilarious gamesmanship by the stadium ops

  473. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    45 pitches, 4 runs in the first inning for Ubaldo. Could it be that they want the Rockies fans to be glad he is gone?

  474. Melk Man July 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Good job by Nova. That is how you pitch with a huge lead on a hot night. Throw strikes, get ahead, then expand. Hope he stays up here.

  475. mick July 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Col. pressuring Cleve to make deal now by using UJim?
    you can’t make that up…

  476. bruceb July 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    The question is this: now we seem to be out of the Jimenez stakes, who is going to be the best pitcher available this winter? Because sooner or later, we’re going to need another genuine No. 2 starter.

  477. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Triple – like I said, hughes will pitch himself out of the majors before this performce puts Nova back in it.

  478. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    # Tar July 30th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    “You can’t give what Cokoraod was asking without don’t a physical”

    Blake

    I think you need a designated blogger. :D
    ______
    :D

  479. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    BruceB – plan A will be to get CJ Wilson, when they don’t get him, Cashman will go to the garbage dump again in the hopes of fielding a rotation that can get them to october.

  480. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:08 pm
    Carlo,

    Hughes seemed to have a problem with a huge lead
    ———————————–

    that game was a wash.

  481. RMS July 30th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Yanks post season pitchers-

    CC- Ace
    AJ-?
    Hughes-?
    Nova-?
    Colon and Garcia-Can they stay healthy?

  482. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Carlo,

    seemed to work pretty well this year

  483. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    “CC- Ace
    AJ-?
    Hughes-?
    Nova-?
    Colon and Garcia-Can they stay healthy?”

    I’m pretty sure Colon’s your number two. And his arm seems pretty damn sound right now, so I’m not nearly as bothered by that as I might have been.

    Is Hughes throwing a bullpen?

  484. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

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  485. Kelvin July 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Hughes in the bullpen wth lol

  486. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Hughes up in the pen?

  487. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Carlo…..Hughes needs to go down to AAA and get his work in at a very regulated pace and just get through the 2011 season healthy….

  488. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Phil in the pen? Has he lost his spot? Maybe so………..but if he has, he should be sent to AAA, not be put in the pen

  489. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Harden?
    Lars Anderson pulled?
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  490. bruceb July 30th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Throwing his side session no doubt.

  491. kd July 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    cj wilson, come on down. you’re the next contestant on get a huge deal to be a left handed pitcher for the yankees

  492. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    The pen is not going to cure Phil of his ills…………..and besides that, if the Yankees still have any hope for him as a starter, he needs to start. I don’t get this.

  493. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Nova has looked really good since the 1st inning. There is no way that Cashman can send him back to the minors and keep Hughes as the 5th starter. Yeah Nova has a 15 run lead but Hughes and even AJ wouldn’t pitch this good even if they had a 20 run lead. At this point Nova is better than Hughes. The Yanks have to admit that and move forward. Hughes warming up in the bullpen?

  494. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Nova pitching surprisingly well. Still want Hughes in the rotation and either have Colon or Garcia in the pen

  495. m July 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    JF,

    Sorry, emoticon fail. That was a joke.

  496. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    If Nova stays, Hughes should definitely go to AAA and not the bullpen…

  497. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Phil is warming up in the pen to taunt the Rockies.

    O’Dooowwwwd, come out to plaaaay-aaayyyyyy

  498. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Yeah just the thing that the Sox need…another starting pitcher who can’t stay healthy.

  499. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    This is the kind of game that might coax Ivan Nova into trusting his stuff.

  500. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Phil may just be throwing his session and getting his next start skipped…

  501. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Triple – sure, if the goal is to make the playoffs with little aspiration for much more then yes, it seemingly worked this year.

  502. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Aren’t physicals always a part of a trade? That’s what I don’t get……

  503. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    That was one of the most uncomfortable looking HR swings I’ve ever seen. He almost jammed himself.

  504. Yanks78 July 30th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    If Harden is healthy, it won’t be fun at all facing Lester-Beckett-Harden-Buchholz in a short series. Very tough to hit Harden.

  505. ron July 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Why destroy our farm system when colon & garcia,probably even nova might pitch as well or better than jimenez in the playoffs?

    If we knew for sure jimenez can handle the al,then it might be a different story.

    We might hurt our chances more by giving jimenez the playoff starts over others???

    Baseball is funny like that.

  506. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Why would he throw his pen session at night – and why would he have his start skipped? He needs to stay on a regular routine – if not up here, then down in AAA.

  507. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    I actually was hoping they would use Hughes throw day in the bullpen for a game. I still hope he starts on Tuesday. You can argue all you want 3 out 4 games with 5+ ip and 2 runs is not bad. He needs to be in the rotation in the Majors. Not in the minors.

  508. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Odds that Harden stays healthy? Quite low. He’s an injury waiting to happen.

    Keep it down, Ivan.

  509. m July 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Maybe they had Phil hold off on his side session in case they needed pitching in the 2nd game.

  510. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Is Buchholz going to pitch again this year?

  511. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    If its a rich harden / lars anderson swap then I’m sorry but cashman is literally incapable of making a deal. Harden has stuff that plays in october. No he’s not a #2 or even a #3, but he’s good enough to throw in a short series and believe u have a good shot to win. AJ Burnett is not. Phil Hughes is not. So we’ll just hope Garcia and Colon stay healthy AND solid.

  512. Nilsson July 30th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:06 pm
    No crying on this blog when this team doesn’t get out of the ALDS because they don’t have capable starters that can match up with other teams #2 and #3 guys.

    ——————————————————–

    I got a laugh out of this one.

    You’re assuming that Jimenez would be making a seamless transfer from NL to AL lineups. That’s difficult enough for any pitcher, let alone a pitcher whose stuff has diminished from the previous season.

  513. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    So Jimenez has indeed been pulled, and is probably headed to Cleveland.

  514. kd July 30th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    what’s harden going to cost the red sox? billy bean always asks for a lot

  515. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Colon & Garcia are not sure bets to last to october but Harden is? :roll:

  516. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:16 pm
    Nova has looked really good since the 1st inning. There is no way that Cashman can send him back to the minors and keep Hughes as the 5th starter. Yeah Nova has a 15 run lead but Hughes and even AJ wouldn’t pitch this good even if they had a 20 run lead. At this point Nova is better than Hughes. The Yanks have to admit that and move forward. Hughes warming up in the bullpen?
    —————————————-

    Yea because Hughes never pitched a good game

  517. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Carlo,

    And a pitcher having an awful year with a a 4.60 ERA in the NL West is the answer to Oct success?

  518. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    “Colon & Garcia are not sure bets to last to october but Harden is? :roll:

    Seriously. I trust Colon more than Harden at this point.

  519. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Harden last 2 seasons 121 IP 5 ERA, he has pitched 29 innings this year and is worse than AJ burnett

  520. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Hughes should be in AAA. If he wants to be a good major leaguer his secondary stuff must improve. An average fastball and average curveball isn’t good enough to pitch in the AL East. At some point the Yanks have to admit that and stop handing him a rotation spot on a silver platter.

  521. BD (Boston Dave) July 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    I don’t want the Sawx to get Harden.

    Hes a dominant pitcher if healthy. Yeah he might get hurt but I’d rather the Sox didn’t get to take that chance.

  522. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Gardner traded to the Rockies for Jimenez!

  523. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Little Dante has just been pulled from a marathon XBOX session, but it’s probably just to change into his jammies and go to bed.

  524. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    The deadline isn’t officially over but you just know it is for the Yankees front office. These other GM’s can actually stomach dealing with Brian Cashman?

  525. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Yea because Hughes never pitched a good game
    ————-

    When was the last time that happened? I don’t mean against a minor league lineup either…

  526. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    No, I didn’t say Harden was a sure bet, but when u have multiple question marks already why not add one more in the hope 2 of them are ready come october. They have a slot to fill if they want with nova and hughes both going to scranton.

  527. Yanks78 July 30th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    “Hes a dominant pitcher if healthy. Yeah he might get hurt but I’d rather the Sox didn’t get to take that chance.”

    Agree

  528. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    Phil is obviously just getting work in…..the bigger question is, what roster move gets mad after the DH. Dickerson unavailable for 10 days…..bring up Olson and send down who?

  529. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Golson, sorry. Damn iPad.

  530. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    it was 2008 the last time Harden was dominant. Why not just go with Nova?

  531. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    “When was the last time that happened? I don’t mean against a minor league lineup either…”

    He was damn good in the Toronto game.

  532. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Why is the HUGE HARDEN question mark any better than Nova, Garcia, Colon, or Hughes?

  533. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:25 pm
    Yea because Hughes never pitched a good game
    ————-

    When was the last time that happened? I don’t mean against a minor league lineup either…
    =————————————————–

    this past Wednesday

  534. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Harden got banged around both times against New York last year, bring him on.

  535. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
    Gardner traded to the Rockies for Jimenez!
    ///

    LOL. Only you would trade Jimenez to Gardner.

    ///

    It’s official. UJim to the Indians.

  536. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    *for Gardner, obviously

  537. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    So will the Yankees actually call up Montero now???

  538. ron July 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    I give hughes 1 more start,if he stinks,send him to AAA til he learns to throw a cu & curveball & tell him he is not coming up til then.

  539. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Hey Blake are you out there…..

  540. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Nova will soon have more wins than AJ Burnett. :oops:

  541. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    I don’t mind Cano getting all these PAs. He’s been out of whack.

  542. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Bret – well, Dave Dombrowski stomach’d him enough to trade Curtis Granderson. Kenny Williams to trade Nick Swisher. I still like Cleveland’s GM at the time (I can never remember his name) trading David Justice to Cash, which won the Yanks the 2000 WS.

    So, some, I guess some GMs can stomach him. Just not some here on LoHud.

  543. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Jerkface – the answer to why harden is simple. Its the same thing as buying multiple lottery tickets instead of one.

  544. Kevin Not That Kevin Brown July 30th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Literally every contender is making moves, except us. Does Cashman really believe we have a playoff-winning rotation?

    Or is it that everyone always ask for more from the Yankees than they do other teams?

  545. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    I wouldn’t trade prime prospects for Harden – we already have enough ? in our rotation; he just can’t stay healthy. Of course if he Sox get him for peanuts, that’s one thing, but the Yankees could never get anyone good that cheaply

  546. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Joe Gardner that is!

    I bet he is not nearly as gritty as Brett Gardner :mad:

  547. G. Love July 30th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    With the way Nova is throwing tonight, I’m happy he & Montero appear to be staying.

  548. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Joe,

    You can probably count the number on one hand. Forming a package around Hughes was an insult. And insults are bad for business when you need a working relationship with about 30 front offices.

    You know the deadline’s over for him. Plan B was Colon + Garcia.

    We’ll see how it goes.

  549. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Is Robby’s dad the Orioles’ pitching coach?

  550. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    LGY – the only remaining question regarding Montero is whether Tom Beringer is going to play him in the Bull Durham remake.

  551. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Bret The Hitman,

    and not allowing a physical is good business?

  552. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Buchholz keeps regressing in his rehab. No timetable I believe for his return.

  553. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    G.Love, although Cervelli is playing better, and had a pretty good first game today, I’d still bring up Montero and let him DH/BUC.

    Hope you’re having fun at the Stadium. We did this afternoon.

  554. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Jerkface – the answer to why harden is simple. Its the same thing as buying multiple lottery tickets instead of one.

    We already own multiple lottery tickets, we don’t have room for more.

  555. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Triple, the guy was making his starts and clocking mid 90′s. What’s wrong with a physical after a trade? Did the Indians demand a physical before a trade?

  556. m July 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Betsy,

    I’m also curious about the physicals. Maybe they aren’t required, and only upon request? Or maybe Cashman wanted a physical BEFORE setting the parameters.

  557. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 30th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    How is BOS able to get Harden? I thought they depleted their minor league system when they got AGon.

  558. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Good game for Nova coming up from AAA tonight. Slows the burden for getting a pitcher. We shall see what happens going up to 4 pm deadline tomorrow.

  559. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    But we do have room for more. If they can send Nova down for an inept hughes then surely they can send him and hughes down for harden.

  560. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 9:36 pm

    Many deals get done in August.

  561. ron July 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Cashman said it would be hard to improve the team.

    Probably because the infield can’t be changed,lf,cf,rf can’t be upgraded with certainty or costing more than its worth & adding more payroll than it’s worth & there is no pitcher out there that is a guarantee,or close to one.

    Jimenez would of cost us a ton of prospects & colon,garcia,nova might be better options.

    I don’t blame cashman.

    Where cash might of made a mistake was not getting lee last year.

  562. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    But we do have room for more. If they can send Nova down for an inept hughes then surely they can send him and hughes down for harden.

    But why? Nova is just as likely to be good as Harden is, but you can only find out by pitching him in the majors.

  563. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    No guarantee that we’re not doing something else, but I’m guessing the Big 3 are now safe through tomorrow.

  564. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Bottom line: barring an unexpected turn in events the Yankees will make no significant additions. There is no way to spin this as a positive.

  565. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    What’s wrong with a physical after a trade?

    Because the point of a physical is to then veto the trade if it doesn’t come up positive.

  566. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    M, either way it’s over and done with; I never thought Jimenez was coming here. I don’t expect this team to get deep into the playoffs, if we make them, but that’s why they play the games. Hopefully all the youngsters we’ve kept will turn into the goods.

  567. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Athletics are getting Lars Anderson & player to be named later from #RedSox for Rich Harden. #trades
    ___

    No way Cashman ever gets this consideration….
    They would have asked for Montero and MannyB

  568. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Good luck to Christian Garcia, signed by Washington.

  569. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    Jerkface,

    Unlike Nova, Harden can actually generate a swing and miss.

  570. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    There is no way to spin this as a positive.

    The Yankees keep their top 2 pitching prospects and their best hitting prospect.

  571. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    GordonEdes Gordon Edes
    ESPN’s Jayson Stark says Sox close to deal for Harden
    13 minutes ago

  572. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Lars Anderson? LOL

  573. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    It doesn’t look like Christian Lopez has missed too many meals since the DJ3K. :shock:

    Did he eat HOPE Week???

  574. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Good luck to Christian Garcia, signed by Washington.
    _____
    +1. What’s the source?

  575. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Bret The Hitman.

    the guy was making his starts and clocking mid 90?s.

    Then they should have no problem with a physical right?

  576. Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    Harden has not been good in 2 years, but was once good and currently owns a one K per inning ratio, and he’s better than Wakefield, Miller, and Lackey. Once again, boy genius gets gifted another early Christmas present for used smelly socks.

  577. Don Vito A. Bellamo July 30th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    http://www.bostonherald.com/bl.....-anderson/
    ,
    ACK !

  578. G. Love July 30th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Joe – Great game. The first inning was hilarious. Love seeing Nova pitch. Couldn’t make it for Colon earlier.

    Montero’s safe unless Felix, Kershaw hit the market before tomorrow which they won’t. The Yanks better give the kid a chance and stop keeping him down to protect trade chip status.

  579. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Bret – none of us know all the details. Besides, I think Cash, having actually been in the job for a few years, probably knows how to act with his peers in the industry.

    Hey, maybe he felt Colo. was jerking him around. Not allowing a physical exam may have been gauche thing. I don’t know.

    But, making judgments based on incomplete information is always difficult.

    We will find out, over time, how Jimenez fares in the AL, and how Banuelos, Montero, Betances, all do…..

    In the meantime, they still have a good team, they just have to consistently play that way, especially in October.

  580. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:29 pm
    So will the Yankees actually call up Montero now???
    ——————————-
    Not before they bring back Mitre

  581. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    I guess Anderson isn’t such a legend after all if they would trade him for a broken down pitcher.

  582. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Billy Beane is a genius, he picks up Harden, has him throw 29 innings and spins him for 2 prospects. Lars Anderson is terrible but he is better than 29 innings of Rich Harden.

  583. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Do these people carry their American Flags everywhere or just Yankee games?

  584. Eroc July 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    As usual, Sox gave up nothing for Harden. A bust prospect.

  585. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    # J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Good luck to Christian Garcia, signed by Washington.
    _____
    +1. What’s the source?
    ///
    Washington Nationals
    Signed: RHP Cody Davis (NDFA—Tampa), RHP Christian Garcia, RHP John Peters (NDFA—Augustana (Ill.)), OF Leonard Davis (New Jersey (Can-Am))

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....uly-21-26/

  586. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Jerkface – talk to me in 2014 when, if lucky, we’re reading about the banuelos rules. Maybe ubaldo wouldn’t have been a good deal and maybe he would have flopped……..but we’ll just sit tight and prospect hug while other teams add salary controlled 27 year old gifted starters. We’ll just grind it out with a $200 mm payroll and a ton of rotation questionmarks and do what we do best, swing for the fences in free agency.

  587. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Why does everyone think a 63-42 team needs so many changes. I am still expecting one minor deal, either tomorrow or after the waiver deadline. Yanks have enough talent in the minors and coming off the DL to win any playoff series. There is no need to push the panic button and trade the farm. I’m no prospect hugged, but there is nobody out there available that is sure enough to justify gutting the future for.

  588. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Do the Sox have anyone decent left in their farm system besides a SS who can’t hit?

  589. Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Harden has been injured much of his career, that hopefully should not stop now. The Red Sox magic shouldn’t shine on Harden’s injury woes.

  590. Stoneburner July 30th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Congratulations Oakland – you just acquired Lars Anderson – aka Eric Duncan v. 2.0

  591. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Lars Anderson for a half-season of Harden is a pretty decent price. This could easily become a Nady-like trade.

  592. Eroc July 30th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Nova threw 60 pitches through the first 3 innings and has now made it through 7 with under 100 pitches.

  593. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Carlo,

    I’d rather be talking about the Manny Rules than watch Ubaldo & AJ Burnett go back to back in the rotation with 4.50 ERAs and constant blow ups.

    Montero+betances+nova just wasn’t doing it for me.

  594. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Carlo,

    On one hand you are blasting the Yankees for not getting Ubaldo and on the other hand you are saying maybe Ubaldo wouldn’t have been a good deal.

    If Ubaldo came here and flopped you would have been blasting Cash for getting him

  595. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    “but we’ll just sit tight and prospect hug while other teams add salary controlled 27 year old gifted starters.”

    Seems to me we have a 25-year old former All-Star trying to round back into form. But Ubaldo hasn’t suffered a significant drop in veloc…oh, wait.

  596. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    I don’t see how you equate Jimenez with AJ at all

  597. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    People seriously getting worked up over Rich Harden?

    The Red Sox were going to acquire a SP at the deadline. If Rich Harden was the best they can do, that’s a good thing.

    Even when he is healthy he is not particularly good anymore.

  598. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    Straw – the problem with saying we would be “gutting the future” means that those who were traded would certainly be part of the future despite their current prospect status. Some here thought Andrew Brackman was going to be “part of the future” as recently as March of this year…….now he has as good a chance of playing in the NBA.

  599. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:48 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
    # J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    Good luck to Christian Garcia, signed by Washington.
    _____
    +1. What’s the source?
    ///
    Washington Nationals
    Signed: RHP Cody Davis (NDFA—Tampa), RHP Christian Garcia, RHP John Peters (NDFA—Augustana (Ill.)), OF Leonard Davis (New Jersey (Can-Am))

    http://www.baseballamerica.com…..uly-21-26/
    _____
    Thanks. Looks like the Nats are picking up all our broken pitchers. Wonder how far along Garcia is in his rehab, and where he will end up this year.

  600. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Martin seems to be heating up again, which is great news.

  601. kd July 30th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    wait…. i always believe that peter gammons has to say so i was under the impression that lars anderson is a future hall of famer. wow, the red sox overpaid for a pitcher that gets hurt a lot

  602. NYY fan in NH July 30th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Anderson was good like 5 years ago.. Glad to see the Yanks keep their prospects. I would’ve traded to farm for AGon too, but Casey Kelley, come on!!

  603. Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    From earlier today…..

    • Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Tom in N.J. July 30th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
    @Kurkjian_ESPNTim Kurkjian
    Source said “someone who should know told me that the Yankees are all over Ubaldo Jimenez. “
    *********
    Ut oh Guiseppe’s guarantee is on shaky grounds.

  604. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Maybe you can’t compare Harden and Ubaldo, but you can *easily* compare AJ and Harden at this point in their careers.

  605. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Doing something for the sake of doing something isn’t good. Look at Greinke. Imagine we dropped all those prospects on him only to have him get injured in spring playing bball and then come out with a 4.50 ERA? Sometimes the Yankees make good dodges. I’m sure there was a prospect price the Yankees would have met for Greinke or Ubaldo,but if the other team wants to find someone else to fleece more power to them.

    Colorado sounded like a pushy boyfriend, “Come on babe, just give me a bunch of prospects, we’ve been going out for 2 weeks, come onnnn” and Cashman was the coy maid, “Nooo how about just a few prospects? Maybe a righty?” “Don’t be such a prude, Babe!”

    And now Cashman isn’t preggers with AJ 2.0

  606. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    What’s that ape going to do when he kills the humans in the helicopter? Maybe some money serum made him smarter, but he still doesn’t know how to fly a copter. #oopsimeanttopostthisonthelohudmovieblog

  607. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Who was the other prospect besides the incomparable Lars that the RS gave up?

  608. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    nvm, PTBNL

  609. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Grienke is looking like a very bad decision for the Brewers right now. I’m really glad Cash didn’t bank on him.

  610. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Billy Beane is a genius? Just not enough to make that team a real team anymore. Cashman could be a genius too by unloading Colon and Garcia now, but unlike with the A’s you actually are trying to win, not constantly flip guys, build up prospects and hope for another run when a bunch of them pan out.

  611. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Carlo-

    Banuelos will be part of the future, and so will either Montero or Romine. Nova has a chance to be, also. Now, I’d trade them all in a minute for Kershaw or Felix or even Gio, but for the guys discussed today.

  612. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Yahoo, we kept prospects that are years away or not being called up because of Jorge Posada and Francisco Cervelli. I am stoked

  613. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    What’s that ape going to do when he kills the humans in the helicopter? Maybe some money serum made him smarter, but he still doesn’t know how to fly a copter.

    Monkeys are like the Matrix, they just absorb the knowledge of flying the helicopter. Or he jumps out the other side and grabs a vine.

  614. Benny Blanco July 30th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    So boston gets harden. I tell ya, the good news just keeps coming.

  615. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Colorado sounded like a pushy boyfriend, “Come on babe, just give me a bunch of prospects, we’ve been going out for 2 weeks, come onnnn” and Cashman was the coy maid, “Nooo how about just a few prospects? Maybe a righty?” “Don’t be such a prude, Babe!”

    And now Cashman isn’t preggers with AJ 2.0

    ————–

    I don’t care that this comparison is ludicrous. It’s still hilarious. Well done.

  616. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Maybe you can’t compare Harden and Ubaldo, but you can *easily* compare AJ and Harden at this point in their careers.

    ——————

    You’re right.

    AJ and Harden are both white, while Ubaldo is Dominican.

  617. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Triple – I’m not blasting them for not getting Ubaldo. Like jerkface said, the nova+betances+montero package was too rich and I have already said I would pass. I’m blasting cashman because he simply relies on free agency and when he does he gets fleeced. He also has a tendancy to basically state every decent prospect is “untouchable” and other GM’s probably laugh at him. Thinking this rotation is good enough to win in October is a tad too optimistic for me. either he doesn’t care or is looking at the bigger picture. In doing so, I hope he realizes by the time his “untouchables” are ready to contribute, arod will be old, jeter will be gone, rivera will be gone, and he’ll have had to pay up for sabathia yet again.

  618. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Billy Beane is a genius?

    As a prospect trader yes. :) Maybe not for overall team composition, but he does have to deal with cheap ownership. To his credit, he has created a solid starting rotation, which Cashman gets constantly trashed for.

  619. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    i don’t know which one made me laugh more, jerkface’s comment or Nick’s….

  620. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    So boston gets harden. I tell ya, the good news just keeps coming.
    ___

    Add him to the list of injured Boston pitchers…
    If not, i think the Yankees hit Harden pretty well…

  621. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    There is no vine, he jumped from the Golden Gate Bridge! :mad:

    I might have to go see this stupid movie to see what happens.

    Oh, but that’s just what they want me to do… :cry:

  622. Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    # Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Grienke is looking like a very bad decision for the Brewers right now. I’m really glad Cash didn’t bank on him.

    ——-

    To be fair, Yankee fans were killing Cashman a year ago for the Granderson deal, especially since Jackson played well above his head.

    Never evaluate trades after half of one season.

  623. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    “Billy Beane is a genius? Just not enough to make that team a real team anymore. Cashman could be a genius too by unloading Colon and Garcia now, but unlike with the A’s you actually are trying to win, not constantly flip guys, build up prospects and hope for another run when a bunch of them pan out.”

    What in the name of sanity would lead Cashman to trade Bartolo Colon, who has undergone an extremely successful experimental treatment, has no arm issues at all since then, and is throwing 95 mph with sinking movement?

  624. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    # Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Doing something for the sake of doing something isn’t good. Look at Greinke. Imagine we dropped all those prospects on him only to have him get injured in spring playing bball and then come out with a 4.50 ERA? Sometimes the Yankees make good dodges. I’m sure there was a prospect price the Yankees would have met for Greinke or Ubaldo,but if the other team wants to find someone else to fleece more power to them.

    Colorado sounded like a pushy boyfriend, “Come on babe, just give me a bunch of prospects, we’ve been going out for 2 weeks, come onnnn” and Cashman was the coy maid, “Nooo how about just a few prospects? Maybe a righty?” “Don’t be such a prude, Babe!”

    And now Cashman isn’t preggers with AJ 2.0

    ———————————-

    lol funniest thing I heard today

  625. ron July 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Carlo :

    We have to wait & see how the future shakes out but you don’t know now.

    Remember one thing,every player who ever played the game was a prospect at one time & you don’t know if you have a king felix in your system or an albert pujols til you look back on it after several years.

  626. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    He also has a tendancy to basically state every decent prospect is “untouchable” and other GM’s probably laugh at him.

    If this were true the Yankees wouldnt be in every trade rumor. Legit or not, Cashman is obviously having discussions with these teams. The untouchable stuff isn’t as true as it appears, seeing as how the Yankees clearly would deal certain guys. Just not in bunches together. And seeing what other teams give up, thats the right play.

  627. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    “Maybe you can’t compare Harden and Ubaldo, but you can *easily* compare AJ and Harden at this point in their careers.

    ——————

    You’re right.

    AJ and Harden are both white, while Ubaldo is Dominican.”

    Umm, I was talking more about their rampant inconsistency, but okay then. Burnett’s actually got a better health record recently.

  628. Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Good grief. Why are people afraid of Rich Harden?

    Have some perspective.

  629. blake July 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    Tar,

    Yea im here

    The Rockies seemed to be pushing really hard to trade a guy they really didn’t have to trade…..that was one red flag but to deny a physical on a guy you’re asking for top prospects in return for.would have been too much for.me as well. Free Montero!

    Harden tells me that Boston doesn’t feel good about Butholtz coming back this year…..great day of baseball for the Yanks today…..yay offense! And yay Nova!

  630. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    If the Sox are going with Lackey and Harden in the playoff rotation, I would feel pretty good about their opponents chances in those games.

  631. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Thanks. Looks like the Nats are picking up all our broken pitchers. Wonder how far along Garcia is in his rehab, and where he will end up this year.
    ////

    I’m going to have to adopt the Nationals as my NL team before long ;).

  632. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Chris I was being sarcastic. The Colon signing is a stroke of genius if we are going to praise Beane for Harden. Same with Garcia. But Cash gets no credit, that was luck. Beane is a genius because he got prospects in a trade for a team who will not make the playoffs this year and getting another 1B prospect in Lars who will never play in the majors.

  633. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    Yeah, let’s consider for a moment, that the Yankees aren’t counting on Hughes nearly as much as the Red Sox are counting on Lackey, who has been awful for a while now.

    And yes, it says a lot about the prognosis for Bucholtz.

  634. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:58 pm

    All I’ve ever heard about Cashman is how great he is to deal with, and how active he is. I doubt any GM is laughing at him.

  635. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    They should pitch Soriano in the 9th.

    Ayala is a mop up guy, I would have loved to get Mike Adams or Uehara to replace him, but they come at a steep price.

  636. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    “Chris I was being sarcastic. ”

    Sorry, you never know with this group. I’m not here frequently enough to figure out who tends to be saner than not.

  637. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Blake, I thought all along that something was up with Jimenez’ health – after all, there was no reason to even float the idea about trading him. That’s why I didn’t really want him, esp. at the price he was going to cost. I’ve been leary of Liriano (in case the Twins were going to trade him) for the same reason…….very skeptical.

  638. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    Umm, I was talking more about their rampant inconsistency, but okay then. Burnett’s actually got a better health record recently.

    —————–

    Don’t you actually have to be healthy enough to pitch to be inconsistent?

  639. Eroc July 30th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    “Yeah, let’s consider for a moment, that the Yankees aren’t counting on Hughes nearly as much as the Red Sox are counting on Lackey, who has been awful for a while now. ”

    Not if you listen to Cashman, who keeps touting Hughes as a guy who is better than anything he can acquire on the market, which is completely false.

  640. RhapsodyInBlue July 30th, 2011 at 9:59 pm

    I like our future prospects with our current prospects.

    If that makes any sense.

    Jimenez not worth the price we would have paid.

    Patience will pay off.

  641. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Soriano would be insulted to pitch against the Fightin’ Showalters with a 20 run lead I guess.

  642. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Can’t bring soriano in because he won’t feel the adrenaline and because the lead is so big he will top out at 83 mph.

  643. Frozen Rope July 30th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Garden had thrownsome good games against the yankees butI’m still not afraid of him

  644. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    The Cubs tried the Harden experiment, it failed.

    The Rangers tried it, again not much.

    The A’s get a handful of decent starts from him and are able to turn it.

    Will anyone be surprised if Harden makes one start for Sox and is out for the year? No, but they didn’t give up much. Lars Anderson no one cares about anymore and is useless to them with AGone there. So they lost nothing and added another pitcher. They had nothing for Jiminez or Kuroda. And I take Harden over Bedard.

  645. Run it Out July 30th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    I believe Hughes has to clear waivers to be sent down to AAA. Does anyone on here truly believe he will clear waivers? Not a chance.

  646. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    I believe Hughes has to clear waivers to be sent down to AAA. Does anyone on here truly believe he will clear waivers? Not a chance.

    No he doesn’t.

  647. Joe from Long Island July 30th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    I’m a bit surprised Buck hasn’t had any of his pitchers throw at Yankee batters today.

  648. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
    Who was the other prospect besides the incomparable Lars that the RS gave up?
    ///

    Not sure, but it looks like Gammons can finally retire that Lars Andersson/Thor God of Thunder analogy once and for all.

  649. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    I’m blasting cashman because he simply relies on free agency and when he does he gets fleeced.

    ——————————————————–

    5/9ths of tonight’s lineup and the starting pitcher say hi.

  650. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    I believe Hughes has to clear waivers to be sent down to AAA. Does anyone on here truly believe he will clear waivers? Not a chance.

    __

    You sure? Because when he was hurt in April, there was first talk about sending him down to AAA.

  651. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    If the Sox are going with Lackey and Harden in the playoff rotation, I would feel pretty good about their opponents chances in those games.

    ************

    You forget their bats. A 4-5 ERA on that team if they keep hitting is like a 3-4 on another team.

  652. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Ok its almost a save situation, warm up Soriano.

  653. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Betsy,

    I wanted him but not for what they were asking and certainly not without a good checkup to make sure he’s healthy…….I did think they would trade him before the deadline though as there was just too much smoke to not be fire……it started out like what Towers did with Upton…..but then continued way longer and there were way more rumors of actual players being mentioned. Im fine with it though…..

  654. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Ayala hasn’t pitched in forever, has he?

  655. m July 30th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Nova is our ace in the pocket. (calm down, I don’t mean a literal ace)

    People worried about Hughes needn’t worry. We have Nova in our pocket.

  656. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    Cash’s comment about Phil being better than anything they could acquire is going to sound silly if/when they send him down and replace him with Nova………..which could happen fairly soon. Of course he had to say that, but still

  657. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    RhapsodyInBlue July 30th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
    I like our future prospects with our current prospects.

    If that makes any sense.

    Jimenez not worth the price we would have paid.

    Patience will pay off.
    ///

    Rhapsody, some here can’t yet appreciate what was averted here, & what was protected.

  658. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Remember when people on here were scared of the “hard throwing left hander” Andrew Miller?

    Now it’s Rich Harden.

  659. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    “You forget their bats. A 4-5 ERA on that team if they keep hitting is like a 3-4 on another team.”

    And how many times have the Yankees had dominant offenses and shoddy starting pitching and gotten knocked out in the first round?

  660. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    5/9ths of tonight’s lineup and the starting pitcher say hi.

    ___

    6 of 9..
    Only Jones, Tex and Martin were FAs.

  661. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Ayala pitched ysterday and wedsneday

  662. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Lars Anderson is from Oakland.

  663. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Harden did just beat us last saturday so let’s not pretend like he is the most tapioca pitcher of all time. He makes Boston better and losing Lars Anderson hurts about as much as bumping into brooklyn deckers chest.

  664. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Blake, I get that they wanted to deal him……….but since they did, I didn’t REALLY want him……..There just was no reason for the Rockies to trade Jimenez – teams do not trade their stud young pitchers, esp. if they have good contracts.

  665. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Ayala stinks even with a 14 run lead

  666. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    He pitched yesterday? I missed that.

  667. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    “You forget their bats. A 4-5 ERA on that team if they keep hitting is like a 3-4 on another team.”

    And how many times have the Yankees had dominant offenses and shoddy starting pitching and gotten knocked out in the first round?

    ***********

    What on earth does that have to do with the Sux bats this year?

  668. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    Mr. Prufrock, what’s your opinion about Elvis Costello and the Talking Heads?

  669. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:06 pm

    A powerhouse offense can’t make up for average pitching, thats not how baseball works. Only good pitching wins anything.

  670. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Yes, Lester, Beckett and Harden is really average.

  671. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Chris – those yankee teams that had shoddy starters had 5 guys like lackey and harden……they didn’t have two like beckett and lester. Let’s be realistic about their short series pitching, they’ll have the favorable starter matchup in virtually any game of the series. At worst a push if beckett faces verlander.

  672. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    “Only good pitching wins anything.”

    More accurately, I would say that great hitting does not beat good pitching. The Sox can beat up a lot of 3-4-5 starters and bullpens, but that doesn’t mean they will hit the 1-2s they meet in the postseason. This is rather subjective, and based mainly on the Yankees ALDS losses, to be fair.

  673. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    I’m not scared about Harden, but I mean he’s their #3 starter……….With Lester and Beckett, the Sox are in great position for the playoffs

  674. Captain Clutch July 30th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Anytime Gonzalez pitches the hitters better watch out

  675. Yank 97 July 30th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    Take him out before this game gets close. Bring in D-Rob.

  676. Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    # Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    Harden did just beat us last saturday so let’s not pretend like he is the most tapioca pitcher of all time.
    ———

    And Guthrie just beat the Yanks last night. That doesn’t mean I’d be afraid of him the next time he’s on the mound.

  677. kd July 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    gotta mean that bucholz isn’t coming back this season

  678. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Anytime Gonzalez pitches the hitters better watch out

    ___

    Tex beat him to it…

  679. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Jerkface – just so u know, we have average pitching.

  680. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Karma is a b****

  681. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Adding injury to insult.

    Lester and Beckett are very good. I would *not* put 2011 Rich Harden anywhere near them.

  682. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    Yankee bats seeking retribution

  683. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    Jerkface – just so u know, we have average pitching.

    ___

    Doesn’t mean they can’t win….

  684. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:11 pm

    This is rather subjective, and based mainly on the Yankees ALDS losses, to be fair.

    Lewis, CJ Wilson, Byrd, and Rogers, ACES. Meanwhile the Rangers offense killed CC, our good pitching.

  685. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Honestly, as the team’s history goes, I am pretty happy with a 1-2 punch of CC and Colon. If Nova, Garcia, or Hughes can step up and be a good No. 3, so much the better. But Colon is for real. He’s past the point where I would expect regression.

  686. Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    People are overrating Harden something fierce.

    There’s no guarantee he’ll even make it to the postseason given his long history of health issues.

    He’s like the Eric Chavez of pitchers.

  687. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    Jerkface – just so u know, we have average pitching.

    I was being sarcastic. Good pitching guarantees nothing. Ask philly or the braves or the twins when they were rolling out Johan Santana in the playoffs.

  688. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    “Lewis, CJ Wilson, Byrd, and Rogers, ACES. Meanwhile the Rangers offense killed CC, our good pitching.”

    The World Champion 2010 San Francisco Giants say hi.

  689. m July 30th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    You can have the best pitching staff and still lose. You can have the worst offense and still win. You never know in baseball. Just get to the postseason and see what happens. Go Yankees.

  690. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Jerkface – just so u know, we have average pitching.

    ——————

    Actually the Yankees pitching staff has the best ERA+ in the American League.

  691. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Guiseppe – nobody said they’d be scared of harden. Heck, ubaldo beat us a month ago in the bronx yet seemingly he wouldn’t cut it in the al east according to some.

  692. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Mr. Prufrock, what’s your opinion about Elvis Costello and the Talking Heads?
    ///

    Neither are worth Dellin Betances, but I might give up Romine & DJ Mitchell for Elvis circa 1980.

  693. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    Carlo,

    We have a top 5 staff in the AL

  694. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:14 pm

    If you literally need to fill your rotation with Hamels, Halladay, Oswalt, and Cliff Lee before good pitching means something, then its an unrealistic goal to aspire to and the team should be taking a more balanced approach.

    I like the Yankees banking on their ace CC with reliable guys behind him and a great offense and a solid bullpen.

  695. ralphfl July 30th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Cashman=Fail not 1 trade made and this team can’t win it all as is

  696. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    Harden is a risky pick up…..if he stays healthy he’s an upgrade for them but if he does long enough to make an impact it’ll be the first time. If he doesn’t then its Lackey in game 3 for them…..

  697. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    The World Champion 2010 San Francisco Giants say hi.

    The rangers staff was just as good. Wilson, Lewis, Lee??? A team has to win and lose, sometimes it doesn’t make sense which team wins.

  698. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 10:15 pm

    “The World Champion 2010 San Francisco Giants say hi.”

    Yes, but Cody Ross and Edgar Renteria destroying Halladay and Lee also say hi.

  699. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Cody Ross beat the best pitcher in baseball.

  700. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    I wonder if cashman knows we lead the league in era+……if so, why doesn’t he just go on vacation?

  701. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Who are the reliable guys behind CC ……..esp. in the playoffs?

  702. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    “Cashman=Fail not 1 trade made and this team can’t win it all as is”

    Objectively, is this team *any* worse off in any department than the 2009 team? The bullpen is better.

  703. Tar July 30th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Hey Blake just checking on you. :D

  704. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    A tigers team that beat the Yankees lost to the worst playoff team in the past 10 years.

  705. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    “I like the Yankees banking on their ace CC with reliable guys behind him and a great offense and a solid bullpen.”

    maybe they’ll bring tonight’s offense more often and Friday’s offense less often down the stretch.

  706. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Ok, just for yuks..

    CC vs. Lester…..CC
    Colon vs. Beckett….crapshoot that could go either way, lean toward Beckett
    Lackey vs. Burnett..another crapshoot
    Garcia/Nova vs. Harden….I like our chances

    Plus our pen is miles better….if you guys think this deal puts the Sox over the top, youre mistaken. Any playoff series between us and them will come down to how hot the hitters are more than the pitching match ups.

  707. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Betsy,

    Who were the reliable guys behind Cliff Lee last year?

  708. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    “Yes, but Cody Ross and Edgar Renteria destroying Halladay and Lee also say hi.”

    My point was that C.C. getting battered wasn’t because the Rangers had such an amazing hitting team, but rather because C.C. spit the bit in that series. That dominant Rangers offense was ultimately held down by Lincecum, Cain, and company.

  709. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    I wonder if cashman knows we lead the league in era+……if so, why doesn’t he just go on vacation?

    —————

    Don’t get all butthurt just because what you said was not correct.

  710. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Please also remember that CC pitched last year with a tear in his knee. The 2011 CC is better than the 2010 CC. Any disagreements there? So his performance last year comes with a side note for sure.

  711. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    To those of u talking about our staff being among the best in the league. Save ur fingers the work. Yes, statistically our starters have performed well this season. Those who know baseball, and I know u guys to, realize there is a significant difference between good regular season number and pure stuff that can dominate in October.

  712. Yank 97 July 30th, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    Why do people keep trying to project October pitching?

    Lee was compared to Bob Gibson through the first 2 rounds of the playoffs and was very average in the playoffs. CC was bad against the Twins and Rangers in game 1 while Colby Lewis shut us down twice. Kenny Rogers threw 8.2 shutout innings against us. Matt Garza outpitched Lester in a game 7. Burnett pulled a game 2 for the ages out of his rear end. etc. etc.

  713. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    maybe they’ll bring tonight’s offense more often and Friday’s offense less often down the stretch.

    Well I would have preferred trading for a bat obviously because of what I said. And a starter like Kuroda. And 1 LHRP better than Boone Logan.

  714. m July 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Rockies departing gift to Ubaldo: a no-decision

  715. kd July 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    harden will have a 5 era in the al east. he’s a flyball pitcher. balls are going to pepper the monster in fenway

  716. jskwrite July 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    I’m happy with the lack of trades at this point by us… other then Pence (still scratching my head on that one), I think all the teams that were contenders looking to upgrade overpaid (wow, Cleveland really overpaid – SF overpaid but from a position of depth like us moving a minor league catcher). Only downside is I think a lot of the yanks prospects have max value now or are on the way down (Montero, obviously). But I think there wasn’t really an upgrade out there. I know our starters after CC are a bit either, inconsistent or overachieving, but I just remember looking at this website and every time the starters for a series are listed, I’d say 75% of the match ups, we got the guy with the lower ERA. They weren’t going to add a #2 without paying for it.. if felix or cliff lee was on the market it would be a different story… I don’t think Harden was a difference maker and if the tweet about the denial of a physical is true, I wouldn’t touch Jiminez.

  717. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    Triple, huh? Wilson and I’m blanking out on his name, but they had another guy who also had a very good year.

  718. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    My point was that C.C. getting battered wasn’t because the Rangers had such an amazing hitting team, but rather because C.C. spit the bit in that series. That dominant Rangers offense was ultimately held down by Lincecum, Cain, and company.

    Hitters have something to say about pitchers spitting the bit.

  719. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    TheStraw,

    I would give CC a slight edge but I don’t agree the Beckett VS Colon is a crap shoot. While our pen is better I think their offense is better and way more consistent

  720. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    LGY – what I said was correct in the context we are discussing which is playoff baseball and playoff rotations. Our rotation is average in October. Definitely not a strength. Would be the weakest of the 4 playoff teams if the season ended today.

  721. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:20 pm

    and pure stuff that can dominate in October.

    Lots of evidence against.

  722. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    “My point was that C.C. getting battered wasn’t because the Rangers had such an amazing hitting team, but rather because C.C. spit the bit in that series. That dominant Rangers offense was ultimately held down by Lincecum, Cain, and company.

    Hitters have something to say about pitchers spitting the bit.”

    Granted, but C.C. pitched poorly. He wasn’t throwing good pitches when he got rocked. If C.C. had been on, he could have shut down that lineup any way.

  723. Giuseppe Franco July 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    # Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    Guiseppe – nobody said they’d be scared of harden. Heck, ubaldo beat us a month ago in the bronx yet seemingly he wouldn’t cut it in the al east according to some.

    ———-

    Then why are people whining about the Red Sox getting Harden?

  724. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    RT @JackCurryYES: Yanks can start Hughes Tues and Nova Thurs. Colon (extra day) would open Bos series Fri, followed by CC & Garcia
    ____

    Colon and CC good.
    Didn’t Boston crush Garcia last time?
    Maybe Nova or Noesi can start the third game? (i know Noesi wont)

  725. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Would be the weakest of the 4 playoff teams if the season ended today.

    Better than the Rangers, probably about equal with the Tigers.

  726. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Betsy,

    Colby Lewis.

    Colon and Garcia are having better years then they were last year

  727. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    CC had a bad wheel in that Rangers series….he had surgery in the offseason.

  728. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Last playoff CC was pitching with a torn meniscus in his right knee. Hopefully, he will be healthier this playoff.

  729. BoJo July 30th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
    The first 3 innings has lasted longer than my first marriage.
    ____
    Probably more scoring too

    :-)

  730. Frozen Rope July 30th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Yes! Now is the perfect time to bring in soriano!

  731. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    Would be the weakest of the 4 playoff teams if the season ended today.

    —————–

    Not buying that.

  732. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    “My point was that C.C. getting battered wasn’t because the Rangers had such an amazing hitting team, but rather because C.C. spit the bit in that series.”

    I blame Phil Hughes.

  733. m July 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    I think we’ll be favored in most of our October games.

  734. clownthrowindown July 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
    Ok, just for yuks..

    CC vs. Lester…..CC
    ……………………………………………………………….

    Maybe not considering CC is 0-3 against Boston and Lester is 2-0 against the Yankees.

  735. jskwrite July 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    conversely, this team is not better than ’09… no Marte (laugh all you want, the guy was great in the post-season), no Joba (was OK in that post season) and most of all, no Pettitte. But really I don’t think there’s anything they could do about that at this trade deadline. Offensively it’s basically gardner and granderson in place of matsui and damon… I miss matsui and damon but games 163 and on, you’d have to figure matsui and damon would be really broken down at that point…

  736. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:23 pm

    Weaker than Texas?
    Weaker than Detroit? Cleveland?

    Don’t know about that.

  737. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Triple, thanks!

    Look, I love both Colon and Garcia, but the playoffs are a different story. Garcia would be the 4th guy, so how he does is not as big of a deal as how Colon does. Colon HAS to pitch like a #2 – and while he’s capable, I can’t say that he’s definitely going to keep this up and/or that he would kill in the playoffs. Without him as the #2, the Yankees SP is very weak

  738. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Lots of evidence against what jerkface? Are u stating that the lowest era+ in the AL in the regular season is the team that usually wins in the playoffs? Seriously?

  739. MG July 30th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    how anyone can accuse C.C., who pretty much pitched the Yankees to the World Series in 2009, of ‘spitting the bit’, or choking, against the Rangers last year is not only a fool but knows nothing about baseball.

    Every great pitcher loses sometimes, even in the post-season. Just check the records of Whitey Ford, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, and Sandy Koufax if you want proof.

  740. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Maybe not considering CC is 0-3 against Boston and Lester is 2-0 against the Yankees.

    __

    Right now i would assume Beckett would go Game 1 and not Lester.

  741. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    So we can all assume Jiminez will be traded again soon enough when the Indians can’t and won’t pay him? He may end up here yet at some point, unless of course the AL isn’t quite as easy for him or the Yankees were right to ask for a physical.

  742. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    I love beating the Orioles like the doormats they are…..

  743. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:25 pm

    Lots of evidence against what jerkface?

    I’m saying pure stuff doesn’t automatically translate to october success. Smoke and mirrors guys have pitched well in October.

  744. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    I wouldn’t assume that…………Lester has been their ace for several years now and I think he’ll start the first game of any series.

  745. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    “no Marte (laugh all you want, the guy was great in the post-season), no Joba (was OK in that post season) and most of all, no Pettitte.”

    Okay, Marte was great in the post season. Boone Logan could also have a great postseason.

    No Joba? Have you *seen* D-Rob’s numbers this year? And Soriano is going to be better. The Yankees have a better bullpen now.

    I know Pettitte has 10,000 postseason wins, but he wasn’t objectively much better than Colon this year.

    So no, not convinced.

  746. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    New mop up man Soriano? He said he’d accept any role

  747. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 10:26 pm

    You know the 2009 team had exactly 2 consistent pitchers and a slightly less inconsistent AJ, and still managed to win it all . This rotation actually has way more depth than that one. We just don’t have the experience of Andy, so everyone is worried. But there is no reason the Yankees rotation can’t succeed in the playoffs.

  748. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    I can’t say that he’s definitely going to keep this up and/or that he would kill in the playoffs.
    ___

    You can’t really say anyone is goin to keep it up.
    Beckett is overdue for his annual finger or back injury. Lester has been hurt, Harden is always hurt, Lackey is awful, Miller, Wakefield, Aceves?

    Just saying…

  749. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    I love beating them because I want to see Buck’s smirk wiped off his face……after he made the comments about hating the Yankees, he’s someone that needs to be taken down a peg. I hope this was as humiliating for him as the score indicates.

  750. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    “Every great pitcher loses sometimes, even in the post-season. Just check the records of Whitey Ford, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, and Sandy Koufax if you want proof.”

    I’m not saying that C.C. isn’t *entitled* to pitch poorly once in a while, the man is a beast, and the best front of the rotation the Yankees have had in a decade. But when your ace gets rocked in game 1 of a big series, how is that *not* choking?

  751. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Betsy,

    My point was that at this time last year Texas fans could have been saying the same thing about how Wilson and Lewis would do in the playoffs.

  752. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
    CLE deal for Ubaldo an aggressive gamble–helps chances to win in’11-13, at high cost. Indians didn’t have concerns other teams did. #trades
    2 hours ago

  753. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:28 pm

    Lefty Gomez was 6-0 :D

  754. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    It willl be interesting to see if Banuelous or Betcances make an impact on the big league club before year end even out of the pen. Why can’t Manny be the lefty out of the pen we are looking for at the end of the year?

  755. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    CC lost a World Series game in 2009.

  756. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Triple, well we now have no choice but to hope that things turn out well…..

  757. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Manny can certainly be considered once the minor league season ends, to get a feel for the majors…. Doubt he will, but it’s always a possibility.

  758. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Soriano looking pretty sharp so far…..tight breaking ball there.

  759. ac1 July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Soriano and Chavez returning are like trades…

  760. MG July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:28 pm
    “Every great pitcher loses sometimes, even in the post-season. Just check the records of Whitey Ford, Bob Gibson, Don Drysdale, and Sandy Koufax if you want proof.”

    I’m not saying that C.C. isn’t *entitled* to pitch poorly once in a while, the man is a beast, and the best front of the rotation the Yankees have had in a decade. But when your ace gets rocked in game 1 of a big series, how is that *not* choking?
    ——————————–
    That is ridiculous. Choking implies a fear of pitching well, not getting beat.

    Every pitcher has bad games, it has nothing to do with choking. Whitey Ford got rocked in the 1st game of the ’63 Series after setting a WS record for consecutive scoreless innings, did he choke or just have a bad game?

  761. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Always nice to sweep a double-header in convincing fashion. Go get Arrietta tomorrow and take 3 of 4.

  762. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Pettitte has had many blow ups in the postseason, and he wasn’t exactly dominant in the regular season. But those things don’t matter that much in the postseason when you have a veteran guy like that.

    I can see Colon putting in some andy pettitte performances. Or Garcia. Would I prefer to have Andy in their place? Sure, he is like a binky, you feel safer with what you know.

  763. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Hey who is this guy pitching 1-2-3 innings :)

  764. Frozen Rope July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    seriously how pointless was it to blow this much money on a set up guy?

  765. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    The new bullpen upgrade looks alright.

  766. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    Yankee playoff rotation: CC, Colon, Garcia, Burnett
    Texas playoff rotation: ogando, wilson, harrison, lewis
    Boston playoff rotation: lester, beckett, lackey, harden…..and if bucholz returns its lackey or harden for 4th spot
    Detroit playoff rotation: verlander, scherzer, porcello, penny

    Ok – we’d be better than detroit.

  767. Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm


    That is ridiculous. Choking implies a fear of pitching well, not getting beat.

    Every pitcher has bad games, it has nothing to do with choking. Whitey Ford got rocked in the 1st game of the ’63 Series after setting a WS record for consecutive scoreless innings, did he choke or just have a bad game?”

    Can we just say we have different definitions of ‘choking’ and be done with it?

  768. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Soriano looks like he just had a root canal. Must be a fun guy to hang out with

  769. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Even in the years recently where the Yanks failed in the playoffs, they did so more because the bats failed than because of shoddy starting pitching.

  770. Yogi Mantle July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Nicely done by Soriano. Perfect way to get him in game almost like a ST tuneup.

  771. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    So will throw it out there again. Johan will pass thru waivers. If he proves to be healthy, don’t you have to make an offer on him, take some salary on and save your prospects? Say pay 14ish for two years and have the 5 buyout on the last? Mets save money. You save your prospects. CC, Santana and Colon would look good in a series no?

  772. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Why can’t Manny be the lefty out of the pen we are looking for at the end of the year?

    ———————————–

    Not this again

  773. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    Ok – we’d be better than detroit.

    -

    And Texas

  774. MG July 30th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
    CC lost a World Series game in 2009.
    —————-
    didn’t he give up 2 runs in 7 innings in that game?

  775. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Good job and nice to see Soriano back

  776. Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    Should have gotten rid of Hughes-less when his value was high. He’ll never be the same for Yanks again and Yanks now get nothing for him.

    Need to better our team in some way at the deadline. 2nd or 3rd best team in MLB, but not good enough to win the World Series without a drastic upgrade behind CC. Only player left is Felix. Worth a shot, Betances, Montero, Banuelos, anything. Mariners have no reason to keep him. Mariners will always be cellar dwellers, fans only come to see a pitcher once every 5 days, not like a position player like Adrian Gonzalez with the Padres.

  777. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Not what again? Just like Hughes was. Just like Joba was. He is incapable of getting a lefty out in the majors? if that’s the case trade him now.

  778. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    No……….I have no interest in Santana; at this point, he’s just a name……….a name who can’t stay healthy

  779. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    I have no problem with Colon going against any team’s #2 in the playoffs.

  780. Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Hughes, Betances, Montero, Banuelos, Brackman…

  781. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Texas is a coinflip at best jerkface.

    It really annoys me that I’ve heard not a single murmur about cashman looking for a bat. I’m hoping its out of respect for Jorge in case he can’t get one he doesn’t want it out there that he was looking. This team needs a bat for October. Its my opinion that our offense has to be truly lethal to offset the shortcoming I see in our starters. Ironic comments on a day where we scored 25 runs, I know.

  782. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
    Why can’t Manny be the lefty out of the pen we are looking for at the end of the year?

    ———————————–

    Not this again
    ///

    Told ya Odds, we’re gonna revolutionize the game & have a guy for each inning.

  783. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    There are a lot of overpaid bats out there if needed after the trade deadline. I would rather see what Montero can do for part of the year rather than bring someone else in.

  784. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    Carlo, we have a bat; it belongs to Montero.

  785. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    pretty good package the Rocks got for Ubaldo

  786. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    will Montero but up Tomorrow?

  787. MG July 30th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Chris W July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    That is ridiculous. Choking implies a fear of pitching well, not getting beat.

    Every pitcher has bad games, it has nothing to do with choking. Whitey Ford got rocked in the 1st game of the ’63 Series after setting a WS record for consecutive scoreless innings, did he choke or just have a bad game?”

    Can we just say we have different definitions of ‘choking’ and be done with it?
    ========================
    Choking has been essentially been defined as losing because of a fear of winning for as long as there has been sports.

    CC has never been afraid of losing a game. He, as others have pointed out, pitched with a torn knee meniscus at the end of last season, that’s a gutsy way to perform at any level and the complete opposite of choking.

    If you want to use a different, inaccurate definition that’s up to you but it’s wrong.

  788. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    If Sori can stay healthy, pen will be in great shape for stretch drive into playoffs.

  789. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    9:37pm: The deal is pending a physical for Jimenez, according to Paul Hoynes of the Cleveland Plain Dealer (on Twitter).

    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com

    why do they get to do a physical

  790. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    If I had to bet, I’d bet Montero will be up Sep 1.

  791. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Betances is on the 40 man.

    I wouldn’t be shocked to see him in the bullpen at some point.

  792. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    blake,

    They gave up 1 top guy. Sorry I’m just not big on Alex White. To me he is no better then Nova.

  793. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    “didn’t he give up 2 runs in 7 innings in that game?”

    And then Phil Hughes gave up 2 more.

    I won’t even get into Brian Bruney. :mad:

  794. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Hey, just sunk in we swept the DH.
    ////

    Can we please have Montero up for Fenway series?

  795. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    Blake, that’s after the deal is done – I believe the Yankees were looking for one beforehand

  796. m July 30th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Betsy,

    MLB trade rumors says the Ubaldo trade is pending his physical.

    So, I’m guessing the Rockies balked at a physical before finalizing a deal.

    I don’t blame them, but I don’t blame Cashman for asking. Missing 3 mph’s and all.

  797. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    The not granting yanks a physical was BS all along. They probably said no physical out of frustration because of cashmans stance on who he would deal or the entire thing about no physical is made up nonsense.

    I love how everyone just assumes montero is going to come up and immediately be the impact bat we could use in October.

  798. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    could we have arod for the fenway series? would prefer that and chavez at DH

  799. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    Who goes down tomorrow when Golson comes up?

  800. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:43 pm

    I’d check with Kenny Williams one more time before bed on Danks Cash….maybe he’s been hitting the sauce tonight or has just decided he wants to trade somebody…..

  801. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    M, that’s a formality – every trade is pending a physical

  802. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    Blake

    why do they get to do a physical

    ********

    Because they traded for him. The Yankees weren’t denied a physical. They were denied on their request to administer a physical BEFORE consummating a trade. It was underhanded of the Yankees to ask for one without having a deal in place. The Indians can back out. The Yankees could’ve backed out after a failed physical, but only after trading for him and administering the physical after the trade. Nobody asks for a physical before trade consummation because it’s league policy for it afterwards.

  803. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 10:44 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
    Why can’t Manny be the lefty out of the pen we are looking for at the end of the year?

    ———————————–

    Not this again
    ///

    Told ya Odds, we’re gonna revolutionize the game & have a guy for each inning.

    ——————

    Best BP in the game but no starters lol

  804. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Carlo, I’m assuming no such thing with Montero, but then I have no problem with him remaining in AAA

  805. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
    The not granting yanks a physical was BS all along. They probably said no physical out of frustration because of cashmans stance on who he would deal or the entire thing about no physical is made up nonsense.

    I love how everyone just assumes montero is going to come up and immediately be the impact bat we could use in October.
    ///

    Except no one said he’s going to immediately make an impact I don’t think. The sooner he gets here though, the sooner he can get comfortable.

  806. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    i don’t think too many assume Montero will be the impact bat but he has the potential. No one will ever know the longer he simply sits in AAA and Posada and Jones are playing daily. I say at least see what he has, could he be much worse?

  807. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    “They gave up 1 top guy. ”

    He’s pretty good though…..they apparently were pretty motivated sellers for whatever reason.

    Betsy,

    the deal is pending a physical though….which means it’s not finalized right? I think all the Yanks wanted was to probably do a physical before the deal was finalized.

  808. kd July 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    i doubt montero will be up tomorrow. or until september….

  809. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    I have a huge problem with him staying in AAA. The current starting catcher can’t hit.

  810. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    I don’t blame the Rockies for turning Cashman down in any case……..

  811. jskwrite July 30th, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Check out Montero’s year… why should he be rewarded with a call-up? where’s he playing? I keep hearing how Montero will be up right after the trade deadline

    “jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    If I had to bet, I’d bet Montero will be up Sep 1.”

    There ya go right there… Montero will be up Sep 1 (or whenever 4 days later when scranton’s season ends… and no b or b this year please.. we learned the lessons of hughes and joba!

  812. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Ok, so you and I will have to agree to disagree like we do on most everything……

  813. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Not sure what you are talking about but Yankees were looking for another lefty in the pen. It may come from inside the org and not a trade. So I guess you are expecting Marte back?

  814. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    Alex Rodriguez could be an impact bat for us in October.

  815. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    Bret,

    Sherman’s tweet says only that the Yankees requested to do a physical if a deal was agreed to….not before. The deal with Cleveland is pending a physical right now.

  816. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Marte back would be immense.

  817. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    J Alfred – read above, that’s exactly what someone said.

  818. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Blake………yeah, that’s what the Yankees wanted, but I don’t blame the Rockies for saying No. Presumably the Yankees had scouted him – just like every other team, you do the research and make the decision based on what you see as to whether or not the player is worth pursuing.

  819. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    And no B and B? You know how many SP were relievers or came up in those spots first? Johan Santana and CJ Wilson are two that spring to mind.

  820. jskwrite July 30th, 2011 at 10:50 pm

    *palm to face* – no russell martin is not jorge posada in his prime as a hitter, but have you noticed how much better our pitching is this year when it shouldn’t be? I think a lot of that is rothchild, but also I think the pitchers like throwing to martin. We just put out 17 runs tonight… once a-rod is back martin is no better than the 6th best hitter in the lineup…. if he hits/doesn’t hit like now, who cares if he keeps the pitchers happy and we score runs like we’ve been scoring.

    Calling montero up will do like the mets did with F-Mart … kill his value as a prospect…

  821. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
    Post has learned that #Yankees asked #Rockies 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out

    **This is the tweet. Actually, it doesn’t make much sense since a physical always takes place after a deal is agreed to.

  822. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Odds of Marte or feliciano coming back this year are about as good as seeing God naked at Yankee stadium.

  823. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    If Gardner doesn’t save Nova’s butt with that great catch in the 1st this might have been a different game

  824. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
    J Alfred – read above, that’s exactly what someone said.
    ///
    fine. He might come up, get on some streak, then slump a bit, then surge again. there’s no downside to him coming up as soon as possible.

  825. m July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
    Since #Rockies wouldn’t OK physical for #Yankees, maybe won’t for #Indians also, so let’s wait to see if this is completed
    2 hours ago

    Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
    Post has learned that #Yankees asked #Rockies 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out
    2 hours ago

    These tweets don’t jive with what is being written here. Or what is actually happening.

  826. jskwrite July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Phranchise: And you can throw Wainwright in there too.. but for every guy that did that, there’s 10 more who were ruined by it… and our organization has a horrible record now with it…

  827. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Betsy,

    his velocity is down and they were asking for top prospects in return….If I’m the Yanks then I would have asked for one as well and if they denied it I’m taking that as a sign that they have something to hide. They had every right to deny it….but the Yankees had every right to pull their top guys off the table because of it.

  828. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Betances can get lefties out.

  829. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    a physical always take place after a trade yes….but I think the Yankees probably wanted one after players were agreed to but before the agreement was actually made….just to check. They shouldn’t have had a problem with that really……

  830. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Blake, if the Yankees were that concerned, they shouldn’t have gotten involved in the first place. Yeah, they had every right to pull whomever they wanted, but if they offered up Phil and a bunch of other “eh” prospects in return, that’s insulting and a bad move.

  831. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    I’d be fine with martin splitting chores with Montero for now. They can ease him in & throw him some turns at DH.

  832. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    blake,

    except the deal for Jimenez to Cleveland is now official PENDING A PHYSICAL! Cashman just didn’t want to give up what it would take to acquire Jimenez. Period. Now the Yankees are looking at nothing. Even the second tier market is basically dried up.

  833. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Calling up montero would be as a dh and Jorge would have to be the backup catcher for games where montero was dh’ing.

    Would be nice if Santana returned healthy and mets passed him through waivers. They have assembled a nice group of young starters…….shedding santana money could help the rebuilding.

  834. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    Blake,

    I don’t think that’s what Sherman’s tweet said. It said that the Yankees asked for a physical and were denied so they dropped out. That was a talking point coming from the Yankees front office. They didn’t want to meet the asking price is the real reason to make the fans think they did their best to bolster our WS hopes when in fact they did the opposite.

  835. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Blake, agreed to/agreement being made is the same thing. Either way, the deal is not completed/paperwork signed until after the physical………..

  836. BoJo July 30th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    So far–of all the pitchers acquired–the only one that intrigued me was Fister going to Detroit. I think he would have played well here, and helped in play-offs.

    I would definitely not want to play Detroit in a short series–especially as the wild card team.

    Regarding the Jimenez trade, I’m a little confused. Did Cashman want to have UJim get a physical, or did he just want to cough while Dowd held him?

  837. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    How do you not root for Nova?

  838. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Blake, if the Yankees were that concerned, they shouldn’t have gotten involved in the first place.

    Silly. They wanted to do their due diligence.

  839. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    If the Yankees didn’t view JImenez as an ace and the Rockies did, there was never going to be a meeting of the mindsd

  840. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Bret The Hitman,

    The asking price that was more then what the Indians gave up right?

  841. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Yeah, Jerkface, they did their due diligence – and decided that they were not going to accede to the Rockies’ demands. That’s fine – they had the right. I don’t know why they were so concerned anyway – had they reached an agreement, a physical would have been done. Had Jimenez any problems, he would have flunked it and the trade would not have gone through.

  842. blake July 30th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Bret,

    Sherman’s tweet says that they asked for a physical after a deal was agreed to and were denied….so that’s a little confusing. I agree though that it probably had more to do with just not wanting to pay the price and I’m fine with that really. I never wanted to include Montero and apparently that would have had to happen.

  843. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    # J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    How do you not root for Nova?

    ————————–

    He has been a plus this yr. 9 wins for the team and getting better as the season goes on

  844. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    you guys are also assuming that Sherman is right about Colorado denying the Yankees request for a physical. this is clearly not the case if Jimenez is getting one in Cleveland.

  845. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Betsy….And then Cashman comes back with a deal around Hughes who just came off the DL who the club hasn’t fully explained what ailed him beyond the 100 extra innings he tossed in 2010……Along with some players who weren’t most likely on O’Dowd’s list of players he’d consider….Granted this is all based upon Sherman’s twitter comment…….Some here might view Cashman as a hero because he didn’t trade away Montero & Company, but in reality I’m hard pressed to recall such behavior other than Jack Z last season with Cliff Lee….And even that crap wasn’t quite to this level

  846. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Yeah I hear you, but just as many young starters just don’t pan out without the cause going from pen to starter. And I doubt Hughes issues were from pitching in the pen for 2009. First half of 2010 he was tremendous as a starter. It’s just too many innings too quick to expect arms not to break down or tire. Matusz, Cecil and a few others have also suffered this this year. Joba I can see, but I always was in the starter camp, but if you make that move, you stick with his struggles there. Mulder, Zito, Hudson were three great ones and Hudson was the only one that made it really. It happens with young pitching, no guarantees. Look at how many times Bucholz has broken down.

  847. Yank 97 July 30th, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    So the Yankees are saying that O’Dowd refused them the right to give him a physical before the trade is complete?

    Pretty damning accusation. It would make more sense if they refused to allow the Yankees to check him out BEFORE the trade was about to be finalized.

    If O’Dowd granted that to Cashman, he would have to grant it to every team interested in him and with time of the essence at this time a year, I can see why he would be reluctant to do so.

  848. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Why wouldn’t Colorado try to sell him as a #1. I’m still trying to figure out their urgency to trade him…..as this week went on it was more and more clear that they were going to trade him before Sunday and the highest bidder was going to get him……makes you wonder why with his contract.

  849. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Is Soriano doing his interviews in Spanish now?

  850. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    They’re trying to trade him cause their team isn’t going anywhere anytime soon.

  851. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    Sherman hasn’t had insightful news about the Yankees in quite some time. I never really think too much about whatever he writes. Heyman seems to have better sources even if Olney and others can’t stand him.

  852. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Forgot about fister…….verlander, scherzer, fister, porcello is pretty comparable with our 4.

  853. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    makes you wonder why with his contract.

    ——————————–

    Only that comes to mind is he’s a time bomb waiting to explode.

  854. Carlos July 30th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Joelsherman1 Joel Sherman
    Post has learned that #Yankees asked #Rockies 4 datys ago to do physical on Jimenez if deal agreed to, Col refused, so Yanks bowed out

    **This is the tweet. Actually, it doesn’t make much sense since a physical always takes place after a deal is agreed to.

    No, they don’t always take place.

    It has been confirmed multiple times now, Colorado wouldn’t allow the Yanks to do a Physical.

  855. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Star Ledger
    Person with knowledge of the situation confirms earlier report by @joelsherman1 , Rockies wouldn’t OK a Yanks’ physical for Ubaldo.

  856. Yank 97 July 30th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    *after the trade is complete

  857. BoJo July 30th, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Kind of funny to consider that Nova has more wins than Colon….

  858. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Pat M,

    seems like the Rockies must have done something to tick the yankees off and that’s why they pulled all the players off the table….I was just putting Sherman’s tweets together with that and figuring that the physical thing might have been what it was……

  859. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Ledger_Yankees Star Ledger
    Re: Ubaldo, person familiar with talks says Yanks “were off him awhile ago.” Scared off by Jimenez’s velocity drop. Had major concerns.

  860. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Pat M, it’s so bush league of Cashman …… IF that’s true. There was no need to insult the Rockies – they didn’t do anything wrong. They valued their pitcher differently than the Yankees did – it happens. Besides all this and how it makes Cashman look like Jack Z, what this says is that Phil has used up all his currency with the Yankees. That is to say, he’s not going to get the benefit of the doubt anymore – he’s going to be treated just like any other young pitcher.

  861. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    sounds like to me that the Yankees asked to do a physical after players were agreed to….the Rockies denied the request and the Yankees got mad and pulled all the players they wanted off and replaced them with Hughes etc…..

  862. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    Blake, yeah – there’s probably something up with Jimenez -otherwise, there is no reason to trade him.

  863. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    only thing that*

  864. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Maybe it will take a medium that allows for more tham 140 characters tell the full story of what happened with the Rockies and Ubaldo. #ormaybenot

  865. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Sherman broke the news that cash man was on the flight from Vegas to San Fran to lock up CC. That’s the last scoop he got.

  866. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Blake, that’s what happened………and it makes Cashman look very bad. It makes him look like an angry,immature 5 year old

  867. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Blake,

    Sherman and his source have some “misunderstanding”. Every team has the right to a physical after a trade and can send that player back. If that’s not league policy then it would create a huge loophole. What the Yankees probably wanted was information that you can’t deduce from a routine physical…medical records, ex-rays…basically information you don’t have a right to unless you control that player.

  868. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Really don’t blame Cashman for wanting to check a guy out whose velocity is down and whose team is pushing to trade him when they really have no reason to have to……especially when top prospects are being traded to get him. Lot of red flags there to not make sure he’s healthy before agreeing to do the deal…….the denial suggests that Colorado was hiding something to me.

  869. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Sherman’s tweets indicate the Yankees and Rockies last talked 4 days ago

  870. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Cashman’s etiquette a big concern here?

    Sheesh.

  871. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Not very Kind of funny to consider that Nova has more wins than Colon AJ….

  872. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Carlos, a physical is always held after a trade – always.

  873. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Betsy,

    why is that…..if you were paying top dollar for a new car and the saleman wouldn’t let you test drive it first would you want to sign the contract? I wouldn’t…..there were red flags on Ubaldo health wise and I really can’t blame Cashman for wanting to make sure he was healthy before trading maybe Montero, Betances, and Nova + away.

  874. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Yes, but maybe the Yankees asked for the Rockies records before the trade?

    I can remember what happened with Adams in the Lee trade, but didn’t the M’s pull the trade based on Adam’s xrays before the trade was actually consumated???

  875. 4time July 30th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    If O’Dowd denied the physical after Cashman made that Hughes offer, then I can’t blame him.

    If Cashman made that Hughes offer after O’Dowd refused the physical, it makes Cash look like a child. Basically, it shows how little they value Hughes that they would ship him off for a guy who they are concerned about and can’t even physically check out.

  876. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    We’re now even in games with Boston & 2 back. I want Montero for Fenway since no Alex yet :(

  877. Vineyard Yankee July 30th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    So, whats up with your comment this morning ?

  878. Stoneburner July 30th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    10:04pm: The Rockies announced the agreement, pending a physical (Twitter link). They obtain White, Gardner, McBride and a player to be named for Jimenez.

    *****

    Not that great of a trade for Colorado – no Drew.

  879. 4time July 30th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    jonmorosi
    #Rockies announce Jimenez trade, pending physical. #Indians give up Alex White, Joseph Gardner, Matt McBride and PTBNL (Pomeranz).

  880. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    # Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    Blake, that’s what happened………and it makes Cashman look very bad. It makes him look like an angry,immature 5 year old

    —————————————–

    lol that’s the type of thing that happens on blogs and message boards.

  881. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Warning Will Robinson . . . passive aggressive Phil Hughes hatred in the house.

  882. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Love these tweets…….yanks off him for a while, concerned about velocity drop……then why were they ever on him considering the velocity has been down all year…..then again, they signed Feliciano then got the memo that he logged 200 innings in the last two years.

  883. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    No Blake – as I said, if there were issues with Jimenez, they’d be found out in the physical to be taken after the trade. Also, I have already said I don’t have a problem with the Yankees pulling out – they should have left it at that instead of offering up Hughes and assorted “eh” prospects

  884. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    So they didn’t even land that second pitching prospect? Nice, after initially wanting all four Yankees guys.

  885. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Yawn… people who didn’t like Cashman before using any opportunity to bash him they can find.

  886. Vineyard Yankee July 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    WCYF:

    A ‘Lost in Space’ Fan………….LOL !

  887. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    keithlaw keithlaw
    “We want 2 significant prospects for our pitcher who has suddenly lost 3 mph off his fastball, and you can’t do a physical.” “It’s a deal!”
    2 hours ago

  888. RSM July 30th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Jack Z. continued to shop after already having a deal in place with the Yankees.
    Not the same thing at all, not even close.

  889. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    I thought they were getting that Pomerantz that everyone is high on

  890. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    I think I’ll trust Cashman’s judgment in handling the situation over anyone on this board. I’m sure he had good reasons for offering what he did. Which, by the way, included a first round pick who won 18 games last year. His name ain’t exactly mud, despite his struggles this year.

  891. Phranchise July 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    We are assuming that Cashman actually did offer Hughes. This is according to one source who hasn’t been terribly reliable in the past. Wasn’t he trying to offer up us potentially getting Dominic Brown the other day to flip him?

  892. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    blake…..Let’s recap…..The Tribe will be allowed a physical and the Yanks were not ???? If there is any bs the deal is voided out by the Commish Office….It’s a spin control effort by Sherman…….Hell, Cashman and O’Dowd were still working out a trade as of yesterday……To come back and offer Hughes who just came back and some less than sterling low minor leaguers tells me Cashman wanted an out…….

  893. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    lol that’s the type of thing that happens on blogs and message boards.

    You mean people making assumptions without direct knowledge and based on conflicting information, parts of which they simply choose to believe to back up their preexisting hatred?

    Yes, I agree.

  894. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Anyone understand the reason for a PTBNL? Especially in this case where player is already known?

  895. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    RSM, they are different things, but of the same quality. If he was upset at the Rockies, then he could just have walked away. Tell me what the point was of offering up Phil and co………….?

  896. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Betsy,

    we don’t know the specifics of the Hughes offer or even if that’s accurate…..even if he did it may have been a situation where the Yankees said …..well we don’t feel comfortable giving these players without assurance that he’s healthy….so without the physical our offer drops to this…..I don’t see a problem with them doing that really.

  897. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    jonmorosi Jon Morosi
    #Rockies announce Jimenez trade, pending physical. #Indians give up Alex White, Joseph Gardner, Matt McBride and PTBNL (Pomeranz).
    5 minutes ago

    *********

    Always a pending physical.

    The Yankees would’ve had the same thing.

    They wanted records, personal medical information before the trade with pending physical.

  898. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    Because Pomeranz has been signed for less than a year, so he has to be a PTBNL until his signing anniversary.

  899. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    I don’t think you can deny a physical after a trade – that’s mandatory, isn’t it?

  900. waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Vineyard,

    you and WCYF (if you’re not the same person) make me mad. in turn, i wish you were not around. all you guys do is spew nonsense and try to get under people on this blogs skin. its annoying.

  901. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
    blake…..Let’s recap…..The Tribe will be allowed a physical and the Yanks were not ???? If there is any bs the deal is voided out by the Commish Office….It’s a spin control effort by Sherman…….Hell, Cashman and O’Dowd were still working out a trade as of yesterday……To come back and offer Hughes who just came back and some less than sterling low minor leaguers tells me Cashman wanted an out…….

    *********

    The front office is not taking me for a sucker. They can shove that spin up their tightwad asses.

  902. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    “Tell me what the point was of offering up Phil and co………….?”

    If this is even true, maybe it’s the same point the Rockies made when they asked for Montero- + Banuelos + Betances + more…. to see if the other guy will give you the better end of the deal.

  903. Carlo July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Thx Face

  904. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Bret are you that upset that UJ is not a Yankee?

  905. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    I think I’ll trust Cashman’s judgment in handling the situation over anyone on this board. I’m sure he had good reasons for offering what he did. Which, by the way, included a first round pick who won 18 games last year. His name ain’t exactly mud, despite his struggles this year.

    ***********

    Wrong! There is only one acknowledged Hughes expert in baseball and their name isn’t Cashman.

  906. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Blake, so let’s say that was the case – they’d be willing to dump Hughes for a guy that they weren’t convinced was healthy? Forget the other stuff- that’s tells you a lot about Phil’s standing in the organization.

  907. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Pat M,

    Yea I don’t know how it went down….it seems there are some weird reports here and the Sherman thing doesn’t make a lot of sense. Maybe the Yankees requested to look at his medicals or do a physical before the agreement was actually made but after the players were loosely agreed upon…..and maybe the Yankees weren’t prepared to make their best offer without that assurance (his velocity is down)…..maybe they were prepared to make a lesser offer without the physical but not their best offer….I don’t know.

  908. jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
    Bret are you that upset that UJ is not a Yankee?

    That’s what most of this is, and preexisting dislike of Cashman.

  909. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Blake, we agree on most things, but clearly not on this. The Yankees were always going to get their physical……after the deal was done.

  910. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    The rare trade where the PTBNL is actually the best player in the deal.

    Betsy,

    I’m just speculating and trying to make sense of what happened. I think the primary reason it didn’t happen was just because the Yanks didn’t like the price tag…..

  911. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Bret are you that upset that UJ is not a Yankee?

    ************

    Know I’m thrilled Colon on fumes is our Game 2 starter.

    WTF do you think?

  912. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Pomerantz can be added as PTBNL @August 15.

  913. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Blake, yes – that’s the reason………..so be it; the Rockies had the right to ask for what they wanted and the Yankees had the right to refuse. So, a deal wasn’t done and we move on…….

  914. West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    As is typical, some are trying to create news where there is none. The Ubaldo thing is simple. The Rockies valued him differently than the Yankees did; Cashman did not want to give up what they were asking. Period.

  915. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Betsy,

    yes I know that….just trying to figure out what Sherman was talking about.

  916. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    *Pomeranz*

  917. Jerkface July 30th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Bret lost his dog, oh noooo

  918. LGY July 30th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    Are the Yankees going to keep Montero in AAA to preserve his trade value for this winter?

  919. Vineyard Yankee July 30th, 2011 at 11:22 pm

    waka flocka July 30th, 2011 at 11:16 pm

    ‘I make you mad’ ? I was talking Baseball last nite when you made your lovely post. Don’t you think you crossed the line ?

  920. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan July 30th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
    As is typical, some are trying to create news where there is none. The Ubaldo thing is simple. The Rockies valued him differently than the Yankees did; Cashman did not want to give up what they were asking. Period.

    *********

    And it should be simple to be honest with the fans about it and don’t bend information through your little lapdogs in the media.

    As long as your GS stock is turning a buck.

  921. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Blake, well as I said Sherman’s tweets are very confusing……………not that it really matters at this point anyway

  922. Crawdaddy July 30th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    “Always a pending physical.”

    That’s not true!

  923. Vineyard Yankee July 30th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    No Ubaldo, oh well. It’s nice to see Cashman toe the line and not give in to the ridiculous demands of these other GM’s.

  924. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    “Are the Yankees going to keep Montero in AAA to preserve his trade value for this winter?”

    whats the career HR record for SWB? It might be in danger.

  925. lounge lizard July 30th, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    Cleveland goes to the RSox and Texas next so Ubaldo’s first AL start figures to be at Fenway or Arlington. No easy task.

  926. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    Conspiracy theories abound……maybe the management simply believes their team that is 21 games over .500 is good enough to beat anyone and doesn’t need to be tweaked much.

  927. RSM July 30th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    I still don’t get why a team based in the Bronx (tough) can’t send a few skull thumpers to Seattle (soft) and tell Jack Z…
    “Either your signature or your brains will be on this trade proposal. You chose.”

  928. Betsy July 30th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    How is it not true that deals are always pending a physical? What team would ever agree to a trade without one?

  929. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    # Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm

    Bret are you that upset that UJ is not a Yankee?

    ************

    Know I’m thrilled Colon on fumes is our Game 2 starter.

    WTF do you think?

    ———————-

    Oh yea that’s right I forgot the season is over because the Yankees wouldn’t take a pitcher the Rockies were dying to dump.

  930. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    The Phillies believe in themselves. The Giants believe in themselves. Both 1st place teams got aggressive and improved themselves. You can believe in yourself and strive for improvement at the same time, kind of like patting your head and rubbing your stomach.

  931. m July 30th, 2011 at 11:28 pm

    So…..the Sox got Harden. :P

  932. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    # jacksquat July 30th, 2011 at 11:18 pm

    Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
    Bret are you that upset that UJ is not a Yankee?

    That’s what most of this is, and preexisting dislike of Cashman.

    ————————-

    Thanks for clearing that up.

    I haven’t been happy with Cashman over the past yr or so based on the handling of Joba and certain comment he has made but I’m not going to kill him for this.

  933. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:32 pm

    comments*

  934. m July 30th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    Can someone provide accurate information (with a link) about the taking physical aspect of trades?

  935. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    Well this is what I do know…….Cashman lost out on Lee, Haren and now Ubaldo…..We know how last years non trades helped in October, so let’s see how this non deal works out in the time that remains on his contract and beyond

  936. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:35 pm

    Pat. M,

    I want to strangle the man. I really do.

  937. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    So…when are they demoting Phil Hughes to AAA?

  938. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    “Well this is what I do know…….Cashman lost out on Lee, Haren and now Ubaldo…..We know how last years non trades helped in October, so let’s see how this non deal works out in the time that remains on his contract and beyond”

    The Haren deal was the one that is proving to hurt because the price tag was rumored to be much lower in that case than the other two. I can’t disagree with your statements as they have lost out on the last 3 pitchers they’ve looked in to acquiring…..just don’t seem to be willing to pull the trigger on the prices that teams are asking….could that pay off….yes, could it back fire…yes.

  939. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    Ubaldo grinning like Andruw as he talks about how it’s ‘really hard’ to leave the Rockies.

  940. yankeefeminista July 30th, 2011 at 11:39 pm

    robneyer robneyer
    Derrek Lee Dealt To Pirates In Exchange For Aaron Baker sbn.to/pGed4X via @sbnbaseball
    2 minutes ago

  941. RSM July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    Can I remind you guys that Lee got shelled in the World Series?

  942. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    “Ubaldo grinning like Andruw as he talks about how it’s ‘really hard’ to leave the Rockies.”

    he has to go to Cleveland….hope he has midge spray

  943. spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    What now? Yankees aren’t winning sh*t with the current rotation.

  944. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    “Can I remind you guys that Lee got shelled in the World Series?”

    to be fair though…..his team got to the WS though and beat the Yankees to get there.

  945. Against All Odds July 30th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    Bret I hope you’re joking and just looking for a laugh

  946. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman

    ubaldo deal announced by indians, pending physical. #blockbuster

    55 seconds ago

    *********

    pending physical. The Indians are getting one. Period.

  947. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Thank you Brian Cashman for refusing to get fleeced by the Rockies.

  948. Triple Short of a Cycle July 30th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Please sign me up for more pitchers with shaky control and 4.60 ERA’s

  949. Vineyard Yankee July 30th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:36 pm

    So…when are they demoting Phil Hughes to AAA?

    ===========

    As soon as Betsy gives the AOK to Cashman.

  950. m July 30th, 2011 at 11:43 pm

    Bret,

    Aren’t you an expecting father?

  951. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    Lee got shelled in one game & the other he gave up the big hit to Renteria.
    ///
    Bret the Hitman, there’s yet hope:

    DeJesus pulled after first AB…ala Kevin Goldstein :D

  952. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Scary for humanity, this chimp has now moved on to helicopter flight school:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/new.....i-zoo.html

  953. Pat M. July 30th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    blake….And I’m giving him a pass on Doc Halladay because Cashman was against the great Divisional divide on that one…..

  954. Vineyard Yankee July 30th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 11:42 pm

    Thank you Brian Cashman for refusing to get fleeced by the Rockies.

    =====================

    Exactly. Cashman seems very committed to his home grown development plan.

  955. Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 11:47 pm

    I wouldn’t want Hughes in the minors either. I wouldn’t want him leaving his aura of failure around the Yanks’ youth. The youth are in the formative stages of their baseball careers. Luckily in the majors, Hughes cannot affect Mos and Jeters. I’d keep him as far away from Nova as possible.

  956. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    m,

    Yes m unfortunately. I got into some trouble.

  957. Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Cashman seems very committed to the development plan, but the Yanks never bring up the Monteros or the top prospects due to fear

  958. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    What now? Yankees aren’t winning sh*t with the current rotation.
    //

    How about if they win multiple championships in the future because they kept Montero and the two Bs? Would that satisfy you? How about if they got Ubaldo & won nothing, & went through a dark ages because they gave two of those 3 guys away? Would you have been ok with that?

  959. igotid88 July 30th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    RSM July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    Can I remind you guys that Lee got shelled in the World Series?
    —————————————-

    And also took less money from the Phillies. So we would have lost out on Montero and Lee in the 2010 season

  960. RSM July 30th, 2011 at 11:49 pm

    What’s everyone upset about?
    We lost out on a 2010 Allstar pitcher that dominated the 1st half of 2010 and is struggling with injuries & lost velocity ever since.
    Don’t we already have one of those?

  961. J. Alfred Prufrock July 30th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 11:48 pm
    Cashman seems very committed to the development plan, but the Yanks never bring up the Monteros or the top prospects due to fear
    ///

    Agree, there’s a disconnect. They are happy to try things if they go optimally but when a young pitcher struggles, their hands get clammy. They have got to get over that. There’s no room for a dinosaur in this sport any more. They’ll never succeed trying to band-aid holes caused by failure to develop their own core players.

  962. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Pat M,

    I don’t know what happened with the Haren thing….but would you have given Montero, Betances, and Nova for Ubaldo without seeing for yourself that he was 100% healthy first? I mean his velocity is down about 3 mph from last year and his team was awfully anxious to trade him even though he’s on a very friendly contract. All I’m saying is that’s a lot to give up unless you know what you’re getting health wise….

  963. m July 30th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Bret,

    Well, you should embrace it. It will change your life. And give you some perspective. I would say that it would make you less bitter, but I have no doubt that many people here are fathers on top of being world class whiners.

    Anyway, best of luck to you. Hope you have a healthy boy or girl.

  964. Vineyard Yankee July 30th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Jacob Ruppert July 30th, 2011 at 11:48 pm

    Very true and since it is now after the ASB, Jesus can come up without affecting his future arbitration years, correct ?

  965. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    Looking at this another way…maybe Cash realizes that the core of the Yankees dynasty is either gone or on the way out and trying to build a new one the same way Stick Michael did….from within. It worked for those teams and worked (largely) for the Braves of the same era, who kept all their homegrown putting but had the misfortune of facing the Yankee dynasty twice in the WS.

    Keep the key pieces for the future…the team is in as much of a transition mode as they are allowed to be in. And yet they still have a chance to contend for the title.

  966. m July 30th, 2011 at 11:54 pm

    Oops. That looks bad. Not calling you a whiner.

    Just saying that I hope that becoming a father helps you realize that are more important things in life than what happens (or doesn’t) with this team.

  967. Bret The Hitman July 30th, 2011 at 11:55 pm

    m,

    If you only knew what she is putting me through. Just trying to stay focused on school. Seems like there’s nothing to see here and I won’t miss much if I leave now.

  968. m July 30th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Are you with her or not? What is she putting you through? Like she’s trying to put you in the wringer or she wants you to go out for ice cream in the middle of a no-no?

  969. spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    What now? Yankees aren’t winning sh*t with the current rotation.
    //

    How about if they win multiple championships in the future because they kept Montero and the two Bs? Would that satisfy you? How about if they got Ubaldo & won nothing, & went through a dark ages because they gave two of those 3 guys away? Would you have been ok with that?

    —————————————————————————————————

    I never knew you had the power to predict the future, but my advice to you is to definetely stick to your day job.

  970. TheStraw July 30th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    Using the word “unfortunately” in the same sentence as “having children” is not a good thing.

  971. Nick in SF July 30th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    It’s not making me any less bitter, m. :mad:

  972. blake July 30th, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    I understand how its tough for Steinbrenner Yankee fans to hear over and over again that the price was too high for the Yanks to do something…..and it does seem like we’ve been hearing that a lot the last couple of years…..but in this case with Ubaldo I really can’t blame the Yankees from walking away if the price was what was reported and the Rockies apparently wouldn’t budge or cooperate on giving the Yankees piece of mind that the player they’d be trading a big chunk of their farm for was healthy.

    I wanted him….I was hoping they’d be able to get him, but I was also hoping they could get him at a price that was fair and that took into account that he isn’t having the greatest of years and that his velo is down…..

  973. Bret The Hitman July 31st, 2011 at 12:00 am

    m,

    She is crazy, unstable, deceitful. She’s a pathological liar. I won’t be able to make this situation with her normal for any living being, let alone a human child.

  974. m July 31st, 2011 at 12:00 am

    Nick,

    You’re expecting, too? Congrats! That $25 will come in handy. Should cover about 2 wks worth of diapers.

  975. m July 31st, 2011 at 12:02 am

    Bret,

    That is too bad. :( This isn’t the one you took on a picnic is it? Doesn’t sound like it.

    Make sure you protect yourself. The main thing is the child. You’ll regret it years later if you don’t fight to be part of the child’s life.

  976. blake July 31st, 2011 at 12:02 am

    Night all….nice wins today. Hooray offense! Go for the series win tomorrow!

  977. Nick in SF July 31st, 2011 at 12:02 am

    That’s not exactly what I meant.

  978. J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:03 am

    Straw, well said. There’s also a disconnect on this board on what exactly the Yankees would have been parted from. If you look around other boards, there’s a much firmer grasp of who these elite prospects are that we held onto. There’s a sigh of relief from many.

    Good night, all.

  979. Bret The Hitman July 31st, 2011 at 12:04 am

    So I am in Charlotte getting away from it. Getting high. I like the stuff now more than ever – it’s the pressure in classes for science majors. I have an organic chemistry exam Monday (summer session) but I’m going to drop it. I’m allowed one drop.

  980. Bret The Hitman July 31st, 2011 at 12:06 am

    Ken Rosenthal
    #WhiteSox seeking rotation depth. Traded Jackson to save money, now concerned they’re too thin. #tradedeadline #MLB
    11 minutes ago

  981. Pat M. July 31st, 2011 at 12:07 am

    One thing is for certain, Brian Cashman is adamant about stepping out from the checkbook GM shadow….It should look swell on his resume come November

  982. Jerkface July 31st, 2011 at 12:08 am

    Kevin_Goldstein Kevin Goldstein
    Deals happen all of the time at this time of the year with no physical. Physical for Ubaldo is the wrench created by the 45 pitch inning.

  983. J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:08 am

    spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
    spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    What now? Yankees aren’t winning sh*t with the current rotation.
    //

    How about if they win multiple championships in the future because they kept Montero and the two Bs? Would that satisfy you? How about if they got Ubaldo & won nothing, & went through a dark ages because they gave two of those 3 guys away? Would you have been ok with that?

    —————————————————————————————————

    I never knew you had the power to predict the future, but my advice to you is to definetely stick to your day job.
    ///

    I presented it as a hypothesis if you care to re-read it, & was asking genuinely what your thoughts were in each scenario. But really, never mind.

    No worries about my day job, I make my own hours. Just lucky, I guess :D

    ///

    Good night, all.

  984. kd July 31st, 2011 at 12:10 am

    pat m,

    i am really beginning to see your point. losing montero would have hurt but that would have been the cost of doing business.

    i really hope cashman has some magic up his sleeve. maybe the same package for king felix?

  985. Bronx Jeers July 31st, 2011 at 12:11 am

    Paleolithic man smoked weed?

  986. Bret The Hitman July 31st, 2011 at 12:12 am

    i really hope cashman has some magic up his sleeve

    *********

    Nope, that’s Austin Kearns peaking out.

  987. Bret The Hitman July 31st, 2011 at 12:12 am

    And drank some wine tonight.

  988. Bret The Hitman July 31st, 2011 at 12:13 am

    No grains in wine.

  989. Jacob Ruppert July 31st, 2011 at 12:13 am

    Pat M. July 31st, 2011 at 12:07 am

    Post of the year. Thanks for the brute truth.

  990. spidanyc July 31st, 2011 at 12:15 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:08 am
    spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:57 pm
    spidanyc July 30th, 2011 at 11:40 pm
    What now? Yankees aren’t winning sh*t with the current rotation.
    //

    How about if they win multiple championships in the future because they kept Montero and the two Bs? Would that satisfy you? How about if they got Ubaldo & won nothing, & went through a dark ages because they gave two of those 3 guys away? Would you have been ok with that?

    —————————————————————————————————

    I never knew you had the power to predict the future, but my advice to you is to definetely stick to your day job.
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    I presented it as a hypothesis if you care to re-read it, & was asking genuinely what your thoughts were in each scenario. But really, never mind.

    No worries about my day job, I make my own hours. Just lucky, I guess

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    Good night, all.

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    Are you hiring? I make a mean cup of coffee?

  991. m July 31st, 2011 at 12:16 am

    So, the Indians are watching the first inning in horror (after it was said he would be scratched), and say, “Hey! We need to check his arm out before we agree to this.”?

    That kind of wrench?

    :?

  992. Jacob Ruppert July 31st, 2011 at 12:19 am

    Felix is only one worth getting at this point and should be available. Mariners have no need for him because they will be cellar dwellers for years to come. Fans only pay to see him once a week. Betances, Hughes, Brackman, Banuelos, Montero, etc.

  993. PittsburghYankeeFan July 31st, 2011 at 12:24 am

    So they lost out on Ubaldo Jiminez. So what. I think they were trying to drive up the price for the Red Sox anyway…

    Who got Rich Harden for a Lars Anderson? How do these deals get done? I know Harden is injury prone, but really…what on our earth has Lars ever shown? He’s sucked in the majors, and really wasn’t tearing up the minors. This is the same as the crap they sent to SD for Adrian Gonzalez.

  994. Jackson July 31st, 2011 at 12:25 am

    Any thoughts of a LHRP, DH (pos ply), or SP that hasn’t been brought up by the media that Cashman will get?

  995. Pat M. July 31st, 2011 at 12:28 am

    Maybe Brian Cashman got cold feet and started to second guess himself about all those who would second guess him…….I can respect that, however if there is any truth about him coming back with a counteroffer then I’m not buying the Sherman medical crap especially since The Tribe is getting to run Ubaldo thru the Doc’s office ……He’s surrounded himself with great talent scouts which has enabled him to build a nice farm system, and he has a vault of cash to get the players he wants come winter time……However he’s yet to really establish himself as a top flight GM when it comes to making deals….Abreu and Granderson are the exceptions that come to mind……

  996. Jackson July 31st, 2011 at 12:34 am

    Pat M,

    Would you like to see Cash replaced and if so with who?

  997. pat July 31st, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Wow. Lots of agendas being played out by the media and on the blog with very little fact of what really went down.

  998. Gary July 31st, 2011 at 8:12 am

    How about if they win multiple championships in the future because they kept Montero and the two Bs? Would that satisfy you? How about if they got Ubaldo & won nothing, & went through a dark ages because they gave two of those 3 guys away? Would you have been ok with that?

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    Saw this from last night, reminds me a bit of the conversations on Hughes, Joba, and Kennedy a few years back. Kennedy is gone, Hughes has a dead arm, and Joba has at best a very uncertain future after he comes back. Not doing something at the TD is a mistake. Not looking forward to a winter like last year, but I suspect it’s coming.

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