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Yankees lineup

Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Jul 31, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

1. Gardner LF
2. Jeter SS
3. Granderson CF
4. Teixeira 1B
5. Cano DH
6. Swisher RF
7. Chavez 3B
8. Martin C
9. Nunez 2B
Garcia P

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55 Responses to “Yankees lineup”

  1. MLink July 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am

    PER MLBTRADERUMORS

    yanks inquire about wandy…………

  2. Against All Odds July 31st, 2011 at 11:41 am

    # LGY July 31st, 2011 at 11:36 am

    AndrewMarchand
    I asked him how he can justify leaving Hughes in over Nova based on their 2011. Girardi pointed to 2010?s 18 wins.

    ——————————————-

    Yea forget what they are doing now just look at last yr :/. I’m not one of these ppl that would banish Hughes forever but c’mon now there is no way to justify having Hughes over Nova.

  3. Sweet Swinging Cano July 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am

    At this moment there isn’t. But u can understand why they might want to give him a shot coming right off the dl.

  4. G. Love July 31st, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Ugh Girardi….just keep your mouth shut and dodge the question.

  5. 86w183 July 31st, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Re-post from last discussion reviewing the career of Mr. Hughes as a starter vs as a reliever.

    The numbers are dramatic and at least suggest that his best role may very well be out of the bullpen.

    Phil Hughes —-

    Starter 64g — 26-20, 5.00, 1.391 WHIP, .761 opposing OPS, 7 K/9innings, 2.1 K/W ratio

    Reliever 46g — 6-1 (3) 1.35, 0.825 WHIP, .442 opposing OPS, 11.5 K/9inn, 5.2 K/W ratio

    Maybe Scranton would help him. Maybe he should make the same move Papelbon made a few years ago.

    Either way he has to be moved out of Nova’s way. A 6-man rotation should not happen.

  6. pkyankfan69 July 31st, 2011 at 11:49 am

    With out Arod this is just about the best lineup the Yanks can put on the field

  7. Purenyyankee July 31st, 2011 at 11:50 am

    The word is we may get Heath Bell. Wow. That bullpen would be the best in baseball.

  8. Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2011 at 11:50 am

    # Against All Odds July 31st, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Or just misinformation thrown out there.

    ———

    Indeed. There’s a lot of BS out there. Happens every year and people still read every rumor like it’s gospel.

    That’s why you always have to take these rumors with a large grain of salt.

  9. Triple Short of a Cycle July 31st, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Purenyyankee,

    The Yankees have a better chance of getting King Felix

  10. yankee21 July 31st, 2011 at 11:52 am

    When Hughes was striking out 11.5/9 he was also throwing 94+ with serious movement.

    He is not doing that at any point now nor has since last year.

    I argue he is not a BP candidate as he has no outpitch. He is a candidate for AAA or AA wherever is the best place for him to work on secondary pitches and build back his arm strength.

    He serves no useful role on the roster right now.

  11. Betsy July 31st, 2011 at 11:53 am

    I only want Wandy if we don’t have to give up much for him; not a fan of NL pitchers coming into the AL East……..it’s not like this guy is an ace.

    It really doesn’t matter what Joe says – actions speak louder than words. I think eventually Phil will be replaced by Nova – and sent to AAA like he should be.

  12. UnKnown July 31st, 2011 at 11:54 am

    I think they are just kicking the tires on Bell. Not sure if there is a fit there.

  13. Betsy July 31st, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Not only would the pen not make Phil a better pitcher, it would mean they’ve already given up on him as a starter. I don’t think he’s going to miraculously turn things around in the pen – it’s not going to bring the life back on his FB, give him a curve or the ability to put hitters away. He needs innings – and he can’t get those innings up here.

  14. Ghostwriter July 31st, 2011 at 11:55 am

    86w183 July 31st, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Re-post from last discussion reviewing the career of Mr. Hughes as a starter vs as a reliever.

    The numbers are dramatic and at least suggest that his best role may very well be out of the bullpen.

    Phil Hughes —-

    Starter 64g — 26-20, 5.00, 1.391 WHIP, .761 opposing OPS, 7 K/9innings, 2.1 K/W ratio

    Reliever 46g — 6-1 (3) 1.35, 0.825 WHIP, .442 opposing OPS, 11.5 K/9inn, 5.2 K/W ratio

    Maybe Scranton would help him. Maybe he should make the same move Papelbon made a few years ago.

    Either way he has to be moved out of Nova’s way. A 6-man rotation should not happen.
    ================
    I think that they’ll give Phil his next start. It will be interesting to see what he does with his back up against the wall. However, even if he pitches well, I would be inclined to go with Nova. Frankly, it would have been better for everybody if they left Phil in triple-A or if they put him the bullpen when they brought him back. In either event, Nova should have been allowed to continue his development un molested.

  15. Against All Odds July 31st, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    # Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2011 at 11:50 am

    # Against All Odds July 31st, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Or just misinformation thrown out there.

    ———

    Indeed. There’s a lot of BS out there. Happens every year and people still read every rumor like it’s gospel.

    That’s why you always have to take these rumors with a large grain of salt.

    ——————————————

    Exactly it’s like Francesa always says remember these guys have to give the public something every time they are called upon so don’t be surprised if they stretch the truth or exaggerate.

  16. yankee21 July 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Putting Hughes in the BP is asinine. He has no outpitch, he has no trickery, he has no confidence, in essence he has nothing to bring to the table. On top of that in the event one of NY SP goes down he will also not be candidate to fill in as he will no longer be stretched out.

    The best option for NYY and the best place for Hughes is in SWB or TRE to work on his craft.

    He is ill-equipped to succeed at the ML level right now.

  17. yankeefeminista July 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Cano finally gets a day off!

    Still say, 6-man for only this week; Colon starts on Friday. Hughes to AAA as a SP if no improvement. Not a fan of his coming out of pen right now.

  18. 86w183 July 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Moving Phil to the pen might be best long term. He HAS had much more success there than as a starter, especially since his great start to 2010. His velocity may return to 94+ if he’s not pacing himself to try and throw 100 pitches.

    I already posted his starter/reliever breakdown and the numbers are dramatic.

    Here are some more on Hughes as a starter

    He was 10-1, 3.17 after 13 starts in 2010

    In his 23 starts since that fast start he is 8-10, 5.97

    You can have whatever “feelings” or “beliefs” you want. The facts are on my side.

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    Carlo, I don’t know where you got 2014 from. That projects as the year their innings restrictions likely will come off. I can see both arriving at different points next season, & more entrenchment in 2013.

  20. yankeefeminista July 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    re-post: yankeefeminista July 31st, 2011 at 11:56 am
    Technically, both Killer B’s have a 2012 ETA. I agree could see one sometime next year, one year after if both are still around.

  21. ac1 July 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Manny promoted to scranton

  22. Laura - I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    I hope these Wandy rumors are just that – rumors. That guy will stink in the AL. Mark my words!

  23. mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Still say, 6-man for only this week; Colon starts on Friday. Hughes to AAA as a SP if no improvement. Not a fan of his coming out of pen right now.
    ==================
    You got it!
    Phil is pitching for his life against a major league team this week in the White Sox.
    See what he can do and if can’t let him work it out in the minors.

  24. Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    Banuelos promoted to Scranton. Good for him.

  25. yankee21 July 31st, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    86w, I think Phil’s record since the 13 starts in 2010 is not sufficient to say he should be in the BP, I think it is sufficient to say NY pitching strategy with Hughes failed as it basically pidgeoholed him into being a 1 trick poney with some bush league so called ” cutter” thrown in to “fool” hitters.

    What happened to his CB? What happened to his command? Are those assets now gone? Sorry, not giving up on Phil Hughes as a starter until he proves me wrong, I am giving up on Phil this year though as a useful SP piece at the ML level.

  26. mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    Technically, both Killer B’s have a 2012 ETA. I agree could see one sometime next year, one year after if both are still around.
    ======================
    How about a start each in September?

  27. Joe from Long Island July 31st, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    I will never understand the hatred directed towards Joe Girardi. The guy has won a Manager of the Tear award, and a World Series. They have the third best record in all of baseball. And, based on what I’ve read, is a gentleman and family guy.

    I don’t get it.

  28. mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Would Phil even fit in the pen ? Ayala, Wade, Logan are all serviceable.

  29. ac1 July 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    excited about manny…
    this move makes it a real possibility he can be in the back of the rotation in 2012.

  30. randy l. July 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    “The time of marginalizing him for the myth of Phil Hughes needs to end. Nova’s better than AJ. He might be better than Garcia.

    He was throwing 93-94 mph fastballs w/movement last night. Hughes is not capable of that and should not be taking up the spot blocking Nova any longer.”

    i agree totally. i was saying this when nova was sent down to be replaced by hughes.

    now with hughes, when he has his natural fastball moving, he’s really good. kind of like a young version of the old colon this year.

    hughes reminds me of a golfer who can’t decide if he wants to play a fade or a draw and is caught somewhere in the middle. when he was a reliever it was kind of decided for him. he kept it simple and pounded the strike zone with moving fastballs.

    now he’s a tinkerer, and that just leads to uncertainty. he’s got to get past always being a project and pick a lane what kind of pitcher he’s going to be. one clue for him is realizing he’s not going to be an ace. he’s a solid #3 and maybe a good #2.

    trying to do too much and not staying within his talent level/skill set is a sure recipe for failure.

  31. Joe from Long Island July 31st, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Error – year, not tear.

    Darn iphone

  32. spidanyc July 31st, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    I have a feeling that Hughes is getting traded for Wandy.

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    yea, I don’t get that 2014. You can still contribute to a winning season without having met your innings limit.
    ///

    Looking at Joba’s 2008 peripherals again, I’m going to be sick to my stomach all over again. 10.58 K/9 :(

  34. jpb173 July 31st, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Laura – I Bleed Blue July 31st, 2011 at 12:04 pm
    I hope these Wandy rumors are just that – rumors. That guy will stink in the AL. Mark my words!

    ===============================================

    I agree!!! The Yanks would be better off with the guys they’ve got (including Nova) than Wendy Rodriguez. I’d hate to see the Yankees give up anything (other than Sergio Mitre and a bag of batting practice balls) for Wendy.

  35. yankeefeminista July 31st, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Joe, I will never understand the hatred directed toward *any* player or poster, so not surprised at that which is directed toward Girardi.

    Good for ManBan. Let’s see what the next move is.

  36. ac1 July 31st, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    wandy’s only plus is he is a lefty….
    Manny to AAA, and waiting for Betances to do the same…..

  37. mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    I have a feeling that Hughes is getting traded for Wandy.
    =======================
    Now that is interesting.

  38. J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    ac1 July 31st, 2011 at 12:03 pm
    Manny promoted to scranton
    ///

    :D :D :D

    Today is a beautiful Yankee day!

  39. yankee21 July 31st, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    Joe

    There is no rational reason for hating on Joe G. He is a class act through and through as you pointed out.

    I think there are countless examples though for rational dislike of his managing.

  40. spidanyc July 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
    #yankees dont llike wandy’s contract, or necessarily his pitching. but they know they need to do something. #tradedeadline
    ————————————————————-

    So the Yankees are gonna do something just to do something?

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    The two Bs are gonna move a lot faster than people think.

  42. Giuseppe Franco July 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    # spidanyc July 31st, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    I have a feeling that Hughes is getting traded for Wandy.

    ———-

    That “feeling” might be indigestion because that’s not going to happen.

  43. mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    Why can’t Banuelos get a shot at September and a playoff start.
    Is that impossible?

  44. Betsy July 31st, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Randy, no player wants to accept their limitations. Phil at one point had the talent to be a frontline starter – how can he think that that talent has disappeared forever? I don’t know that he needs to do that, but he needs to stop tinkering – but that’s on the Yankees as well for allowing him to constantly tinker. Rothschild is guilty of this – remember that new cutter he showed in ST? – despite how well he’s thought of.

  45. 86w183 July 31st, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Yankee21 —

    I’m not 100 percent they should give up on him being a starter long term. But I would give up on him as starter for the next two months. Of the 6 starters it’s pretty easy to choose the one to go.

    If he were to head to Scranton I’d be fine with that, but he may have a real problem with it. That’s why I suggest him to the pen and have Noesi go to Scranton and go back to starting.

    It’s entirely reasonable to think the evidence suggests he is not suited for the grind of being a starter. It’s no an asinine idea at all.

    Gossage, Righetti, Eckersley, Rivera, Palebon…. just a few examples of guys who moved to the pen when they couldn’t consistently maintain velocity for 50+ pitches.

  46. Ghostwriter July 31st, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    I have a feeling that Hughes is getting traded for Wandy.
    =======================
    Now that is interesting.
    ===============

    Moving Phil is probably the thing that makes the most sense for all concerned. I had hoped that Phil might be the centerpiece of the UJ deal. If they can get good value back for him, I think that Cash should pull the trigger with no regrets.

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock July 31st, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Mick,

    Sure, if we were the San Francisco Giants.

  48. yankee21 July 31st, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    Heyman is an idiot…. the Yankees making a trade because “they know they need to do something”

    By the way, what has Heyman tweeted this trading deadline that turned out to be a scoop?

  49. Ghostwriter July 31st, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    Betsy July 31st, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    Randy, no player wants to accept their limitations. Phil at one point had the talent to be a frontline starter – how can he think that that talent has disappeared forever? I don’t know that he needs to do that, but he needs to stop tinkering – but that’s on the Yankees as well for allowing him to constantly tinker. Rothschild is guilty of this – remember that new cutter he showed in ST? – despite how well he’s thought of.
    =====

    The cutter predated Rothschild. Hughes developed that pitch during his time in the ‘pen.

  50. 86w183 July 31st, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    time to move on —- may stop by after the win this afternoon

    have a day all

  51. Betsy July 31st, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Ghost, I’m aware of that…….but they came up with a new type of cutter in ST because Phil wasn’t happy with his regular cutter after like 2 starts.

  52. 108 stitches July 31st, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    Just due diligence with Wandy Rodriquez or Heath Bell in keeping others honest or overpaying.

    An absolute shock if either ends up in a Yankee uniform.

  53. mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    NEXT===>>>

  54. 108 stitches July 31st, 2011 at 12:26 pm

    mick July 31st, 2011 at 12:12 pm
    Why can’t Banuelos get a shot at September and a playoff start.
    Is that impossible?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Playoff rosters have to be submitted by August 31st. An injury could get Banuelos added on.

  55. Niblick July 31st, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    Wandy – a 32-year old with a lifetime ERA+ of 101.

    Bell – would be the third closer on the team.

    Both would be ridiculous acquisitions.

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