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The missing piece of the bullpen puzzle

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 06, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi finally threw Rafael Soriano into the fire last night. He waited a full week, pitching Soriano in two fairly meaningless situations before thrusting him into a one-run game at Fenway with first-place on the line.

“This guy’s used to this type of situation,” Girardi said. “… I did ease him in. That was the idea to get him ready as we went forward and we got in these type of games. I wanted to give him a couple of appearances. He got a couple of appearances, basically about the amount of appearances (counting rehab outings) he got in spring training, and I just felt he was ready to go.”

With Soriano ready to go, the Yankees bullpen is in place. Or, as Russell Martin put it, “We seem to have all the pieces of the puzzle.”

I wrote last night that this isn’t exactly the bullpen the Yankees envisioned, and it’s not, but there seems to be the same sort of comfort that the Yankees imagined. The emergence of Dave Robertson and the arrival of Cory Wade have really provided a boost to make up for the loss of Joba Chamberlain. Hector Noesi has become a reliable long man. Boone Logan has settled in as a lefty specialist. Now Soriano is back in the mix, and he looked good last night.

“I think you see the arm speed coming back and the location on the breaking ball,” Larry Rothschild said. “Tonight was a good night for him and this team, to see that.”

As for Soriano, he still doesn’t say much, but last night’s outing seemed to speak volumes.

“I feel much better every, every day,” Soriano said. “The way I pitched today reminded me of the way I pitched in Tampa when I was the closer… I think everybody knows when I signed here, how good the bullpen was going to be, and now you see the results.”

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242 Responses to “The missing piece of the bullpen puzzle”

  1. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    As they say, the bullpen “peaking” at the right time.

  2. MG August 6th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Repost

    it’s entirely possible that Soriano was injured out of spring training and is just now getting healthy.

    That would explain his comments in the spring about ‘not needing any more innings to be ready’. The guy is a competitor who landed a huge contract, the last thing he wanted was to not pitch at the beginning of the season

    The thing that many fans don’t realize is that players play through injuries all the time and don’t say anything about it. A friend of mine, who played in the Braves system at AAA, figures that Jeter was hiding an injury all season until the calf sat him down and allowed him to get healthy and that is the primary reason for his resurgence since returning from the DL.

  3. PacoDooley August 6th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 8:51 am
    As they say, the bullpen “peaking” at the right time.
    ===========================

    I’d say the whole team is peaking at the right time. A lot of guys are starting to play up to their usual standards, like Jeter and Swisher, and so the whole team is really clicking.

  4. MTU August 6th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Blake-

    I did think about Kemp, etc.

    Root the Yanks in for me today.

    Catch you later.

  5. MTU August 6th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Think they’re good now ?

    Just wait a couple more weeks when Girradi has A-rod and Montero as options, and Hughes is really bringing it.

    Gotta run. Later.

    :)

  6. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    The key here is obviously Robertson…..everyone knew he was pretty good but nobody saw him coming out and being the best set up guy in baseball……now they have Soriano back to go along with that. As good as it is…..it coukd be even better with Joba.

    Really hope the Yanks can get todays game and then give Jeter the day off tomorrow against Beckett……..protect his hands from Beckett’s 2 seamers that “get away”

  7. G. Love August 6th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    The pen will throw up a stinker sooner or later but what we all need to remember is how dominant they have been in this stretch to retake first place. The control and the way they are putting out all the fires and backing one another up is very impressive.

  8. pat August 6th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    Starting Tuesday, Yankees have 30 games in 30 days.

    Pretty good timing to have people playing up to their potential and a 6 man rotation to choose from.

  9. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    MTU,

    Will do :)

  10. MG August 6th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Swish has just been ‘en fuego’ since June started, he has 11 HR and 43 RBIs in 56 games while batting over .300.

    Just remembering all the ‘Hollywood Nick’ comments and the cries to platoon him with Dickerson have to make you laugh…

  11. G. Love August 6th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    blake,

    It’s kind of sad. With an effective Joba, Marte or Feliciano added to this pen our starters would have to barely go 5. The concept around how the Yankees built the bullpen was a good one. Health on the other hand had it’s own ideas.

  12. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Perhaps a stronger Joba will emerge post-TJ surgery and we will inherit a close relative of the 2007 flamethrowing nearly unhittable Justin Chamberlain in the not-too-distant future.

    He could form a 1-2 punch with Robertson for many years to come.

  13. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Swish is a really important piece for this team…..when he plays well he makes their lineup so much longer……and I think that’s why when he struggles its so tough because it has a very noticeable affect on the lineup……..he is proection for Cano and he is the focal point of the bottom 1/3.

  14. G. Love August 6th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    MG,

    The cries to platoon Swisher & the Hollywood Nick stuff were pretty right on at the time we were saying it in here.

    He was horrid for a large portion of the first part of this season, but he has turned it around. He’s been fantastic of late and things are clicking. I don’t know why an opposing manager would let him hit RH in a big spot. He’s a beast.

    As for the Hollywood Nick stuff the fact that he’s recording children’s albums and releasing them during the season didn’t do much to dispel that theory. I realize he did it for charity, but a children’s album? Come on….

  15. Villa Nova-Ya August 6th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    G. Love

    One thing I’ve noticed, and it may just be coincidence, is that when the team has a bad game, everyone has a bad game. Almost as if everyone has a collective sneeze, gets it out of the system, and then move on. The badness hasn’t seemed to linger over a stretch of games.

    As I say, it may just be a selective memory on my part, but it sure seems like it’s gone this way most of the season.

  16. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:12 am

    G. Love, Bret,

    Yea it sucks….Joba was just starting to find his niche…..and was really throwing the ball well. He’s still a going guy though and the TJ prognosis is very good these days……I think he’s gonna come back a beast and as Bret says form a dynamite duo with DRob.

  17. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    I like Nick Swisher but I’m not going to get too attached to him. He was on the verge of having his optioned declined. The turnaround bought him another year. I can’t see how they pass on Matt Kemp after next season. 2012 is Nick’s farewell tour IMHO.

    I’d like to see him come up big in the playoffs. I think he has more potential to redeem himself in the post season than Gardner.

  18. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Nick is likable but wildly erratic. Matt Kemp will bring far more consistency and tools to RF.

  19. Villa Nova-Ya August 6th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    I like Swisher a lot. But I wouldn’t shed tears if the Yankees didn’t resign him after 2012. Especially if they have an opportunity to upgrade at that point in time.

    I do think they’ll keep him next season though.

  20. MG August 6th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    G. Love August 6th, 2011 at 9:09 am
    MG,

    The cries to platoon Swisher & the Hollywood Nick stuff were pretty right on at the time we were saying it in here.
    ——————–
    right on what? He’s been raking from the right side all season, did he somehow only play hard when a lefty was on the mound?

    If they had started platooning him against righties he probably doesn’t regain his stroke from the left side of the plate and they would be stuck with a career minor leaguer out there or would have needed to pick up someone at the trade deadline and give away prospects.

    the level of impatience amongst Yankees fans sometimes astounds me, it’s like a bunch of babies who haven’t been fed on time.

  21. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Swishers option was always getting picked up.for 2012. I do think that they’ll try and get either Kemp or Upton for 2013 but that doesn’t neccesarily mean the end of the line for Swish with the Yanks…..it just may mean a role change. Just depends on his.things play out and what he wants to do…….I know he loves NY.

  22. Villa Nova-Ya August 6th, 2011 at 9:24 am

    blake -

    Regarding Swish, though, it’s awful nice to have a player come to NY and really take to it. And even though I said I wouldn’t shed tears if he’s not here in 2013, it feels good that most are not counting down the days to the end of his stay. And it’s not to say I won’t miss him. Just that players moving on is part of the process…

  23. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Also, it was nice to see CB last night. I hope he’s right about the Phillies possibly letting Cole Hamels go in free agency. I’d love to add him to CC and round out the rotation with the likes of Hughes, Nova, Banuelos and Betances.

    I’m curious to see what Cashman does in the winter to help build a bridge to Hamels. Maybe the bridge is a hitter (Fielder? Reyes?) because of the absence of available frontline starters.

    I worry that the hour glass is nearly empty on Colon and the lack of a #2 could make it extremely difficult for this team this year.

    If we win a WS, then that changes everything and I can see 2012 being a big time bridge year to the delectable 2012 free agent class with Kemp, Hamels and fall-back options galore like Cain, Weaver, E. Santana…

  24. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Villa,

    Yea….there are a select few guys that actually improve in NY rather than being eaten alive…..Swisher is one of those guys as is Granderson. (Both guys Cashman traded for)…..and I like that.

    Ideally in a perfect world …..now this is.hypothetical…..Montero can catch every day….they sign Kemp for RF ….and they can bring back Swisher as a DH/4th outfielder after 2012.

  25. Villa Nova-Ya August 6th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Bret -

    In your mind, does it matter if they win the WS or can they just get to the WS?

  26. mick August 6th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    I was one of the throng that jumped onNick . Something woke him up, maybe he realized he was in a walk year and better get serious. This is actually more of a walk year than next year is, after all he’s playing for 10m. 2013, he’s playing for a new contract, prolly somewhere else.

  27. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    I don’t think the Phillies will let Hamels go…..I just think the Yankees may overwhelm him with an offer. He’s really good and would be a perfect addition for the Yankees. He will only be 28 when he becomes a FA.

  28. Villa Nova-Ya August 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    blake -

    That would be a good scenario to have, especially if they do not have someone in-house (a la Gardner/Melky) to fill that bill.

    I’m wondering if they may switch up Romine – move him to OF – since his back may really be an issue.

  29. PittsburghYankeeFan August 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Yankees do have 30 games in 30 days starting Tuesday, with 15 of those 30 against the dregs of the AL–the absolute worst teams.

  30. Villa Nova-Ya August 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    I didn’t realize Hamels was that young.

  31. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Villa,

    I’d like to see 10 rings on Derek Jeter.

    I know that will never happen but I’m greedy. I can still have fun throughout the regular season and playoffs up until the point where they get bounced. I like happy endings.

    Perhaps the Yankees will pursue Francisco Liriano this winter as a stop gap. Maybe they can catch him in a redemption type year like Garcia and Colon. His value is at an all-time low but he’s a lefty with big game upside who fits the profile of a 1-year bridge to Cole Hamels, Matt Cain, Jered Weaver, Ervin Santana and the rest.

  32. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Villa,

    I still think Romine might get traded……especially if Montero can stay behind the plate. But you never know…….

  33. blake August 6th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Yea you could offer Hamels 7 years and he’d walk at 35……you get years 28-32 which are often prime years for many starters.

  34. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    Blake,

    For one year of Liriano, I’d try to hold Romine and pawn off Cervelli instead as a backup catcher for them. I’d do Warren + Noesi + Cervelli. If the Twins can yield a superior return for 1 measly year of Francisco Liriano then more power to them.

  35. Villa Nova-Ya August 6th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    Bret -

    Oh, I think we’d all prefer to win the WS every year!

    But, in your thoughts above, you said if they Win the WS, it changes everything with regard to a bridge year in 2012. My query was more, would you feel the same way about 2012 being a bridge year if they merely get to the WS, but don’t end up winning?

    I don’t tend to get caught up in what the rotation is going to look like in a year. You just never know what is going to happen. Cliff Lee was a supposed lock. Who’d have guessed Colon and Garcia would have been more than just spring training invitees? Some may have anticipated “you know who” having difficulties after have an innings leap in 2010, but if we’re being honest, most of us just figured he’d have another good year this year. Nova’s emergence changed the Yankees’ perspective on what they needed to do this trade deadline. So, while some of those names are really enticing, I can’t get excited about things like that. :)

  36. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    2012

    CC Sabathia
    Francisco Liriano
    Phil Hughes
    Ivan Nova
    AJ Burnett

    Manny Banuelos-AAA
    Dellin Betances-AAA

    *Add Prince Fielder as DH. Promote Montero to split time with Martin. Keep Romine in AAA in case Martin gets injured or Montero struggles with defense at the major league level.

    2013

    CC Sabathia
    Cole Hamels
    Phil Hughes
    Ivan Nova
    Manny Banuelos

    Dellin Betances-AAA

    *Dump the last year of Burnett’s contract and eat half.

  37. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    *Add Matt Kemp for RF

  38. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Good Morning. I’m late to the board today.

    I don’t know if anyone posted this yet on the last thread-

    Nice article from NY Post on Dante Bichette Jr:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....21wEhGyyGM

  39. hardwired7 August 6th, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Breaking News: S&P downgrades Red Sox from “Greatest Team EVER!!!” to “Pretty Good Second Place Team”.

  40. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Dump the last year of Burnett’s contract and eat half
    ——————————–
    Bret-
    That’s the season Burnett wins 18 games and leads the league in strikeouts, much like his walk year with Toronto!! LOL

  41. pkyankfan69 August 6th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    I’m sorry but Liriano SUCKS… I’d rather have Garcia again next year

  42. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    PittsburghYankeeFan August 6th, 2011 at 9:33 am
    Yankees do have 30 games in 30 days starting Tuesday, with 15 of those 30 against the dregs of the AL–the absolute worst teams.
    —————————–
    They get one more off day Monday the 22nd of August:

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....1&m=8

  43. Stoneburner August 6th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Nice patience at the plate observed by Justin James so far.

    A few more starts in AAA and Baneulos may surpass ubber 20 year old BA prospect Martin Perez.

  44. AldotheApache August 6th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 9:46 am
    2012

    *Dump the last year of Burnett’s contract and eat half.

    ——————————–

    Did the Jays have to eat any of Vernon Wells’ monster contract when they dumped it? Can’t remember, but if they were able to pull it off without having to eat much of it, then Cashman ought to be able to do the same with a SP.

  45. Jim August 6th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    If Nova was allowed to pitch in the playoffs last year he would be a legitimate experienced #2 going into the playoffs this year. The guy pitched great under pressure down the stretch but of course Girardi ignored his gut and went with the books and left him off the roster. That would have been valuable experience and he might have been able to hold a couple of games where Hughes didn’t show up.

  46. Bret The Hitman August 6th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    pkyankfan69 August 6th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    I’m sorry but Liriano SUCKS… I’d rather have Garcia again next year

    *********

    Maybe we see a redemption year in Liriano in 2012 because he’ll be pitching for a new contract. I think an NL team will offer Freddy Garcia a 2-3 year deal. Let’s be realistic about his value. I’d take one year of Liriano as a bridge to Hamels if it means I get to keep all major prospects. The staff would be backed by Banuelos and Betances in AAA. I wouldn’t offer the Twins much: Noesi/Warren + Brackman/Phelps + Cervelli.

  47. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Aldo-

    Googled this regarding Wells:

    Wells is due $86 million over the next four years of his contract. The Blue Jays, it turns out, are indeed sending $5 million to the Angels to cover some of the cost. Subtracting the salaries due to Mike Napoli and Juan Rivera gets you to the $70 million figure that Moreno mentions. It seems he was far more in favor of giving that money to Wells over four years than giving $142 million to Carl Crawford over seven. Despite the fact that Crawford is the far superior player to Wells, it appears Moreno is no fan of the contract commitment.

  48. AldotheApache August 6th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    I honestly don’t get the blog’s attraction to the idea of Hamels in pinstripes. Overall, I find him unimpressive, and that’s while he’s pitching in the NL Least Division.

  49. AldotheApache August 6th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    YT,

    I think Moreno’s phobia to contract commitments developed shortly after he signed a .270 lifetime hitter to a 5 year, $18M per deal (a CFer who, last time I looked, was no longer playing CF, tho he’s being paid like one).

  50. 108 stitches August 6th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    If Soriano can be flexible and accept a couple of roles, so much the better for the bullpen.

    No talk of Jimenez any longer. With Soriano and Chavez returning and Alex soon to join the team, Cashman in effect pulled off 3- player deal without giving up anybody.

    Boston only wishes they had the depth the Yankees have.

  51. Bronx Jeers August 6th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Logan really made mincemeat of AGon last night. Sox had 1 at bat with a RISP after that.

  52. blake August 6th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Aldo,

    Hamels has been one of the best pitchers in baseball for over a year now…..he’s coming into his own. 147 Era + this year and a sub 1 WHIP.

  53. LGY August 6th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    The bullpen is scary good. Like Blake said Robertson is the key.

    This post does make me miss Joba though :(

  54. blake August 6th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    If the Sox had Nova, Noesi, Betances, and Manny then Peter Gammons would have to hire a team of writers to help him pump out the propaganda……..look what they did with Casey Kelly and he’s done nothing but stink as a professional and have “projection”.

  55. blake August 6th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    The Yanks should bring Montero up after this homestand on the road in KC…..less exposure and less good pitching to face so he can settle in.

  56. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    From kramericasports.com

    Indirect Fantasy Impact:
    If Jimenez can make eat up some innings it may mean a few more save chances for Chris Perez.

    Not including his guest appearance last Sunday while in the midst of being traded, Ubaldo Jimenez has lasted 6&1/3rd, 5 and 5 innings in each of his last starts.

    Gave up 7 hits and 5 runs in 5 innings[yanked in the 6th] to the Rangers, who won by beating Chris Perez.

  57. Mike_Boston August 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    If Nova was allowed to pitch in the playoffs last year he would be a legitimate experienced #2 going into the playoffs this year. The guy pitched great under pressure down the stretch but of course Girardi ignored his gut and went with the books and left him off the roster. That would have been valuable experience and he might have been able to hold a couple of games where Hughes didn’t show up.
    —————————————
    Nova couldn’t make it past the 5th inning last year, this was a very known fact. It’s easy to kill Joe now for this kind of move with Nova looking so good, but how about a little reality and not revisionist history? A 5 inning pitcher is useless in the post season.

  58. LGY August 6th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Blake

    Look at Bard. The Yankees have a better homegrown version in Robertson yet Bard gets hyped out of control while Robertson kind of flies under the radar.

  59. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Blake-

    I’d like to see Montero brought up soon also to play 6x/week at catcher and DH.
    Who gets sent down? Posada becomes a bench player? Who gets sent down or released when A-Rod comes back soon?

  60. 108 stitches August 6th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    blake August 6th, 2011 at 10:32 am
    The Yanks should bring Montero up after this homestand on the road in KC…..less exposure and less good pitching to face so he can settle in.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    If Montero is to be eligible for the postseason roster, Cashman will have to pull the trigger by 8/31.

  61. I Am Winning August 6th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    LGY,

    I think the Yankees prospects are pretty hyped within the organization, but for whatever reason, nobody took Robertson seriously until he was in the majors dominating. I’m one of those guys. I thought who the heck is this kid, he’s garbage, yet right when he came up, everyone knew he had the stuff to do exceptionally well. It was a matter of him harnessing it and being consistent with that.

    —–

    Yankee Trader,

    I definitely think Montero should play 6 games a week, with 3/4 as Catcher and the remaining as a DH. However, while I haven’t heard terrible things from his defense, Martin is exceptionally well with the pitchers and the defense. He also isn’t tearing up the ball in AAA hitting 30 homers and .350. My point being, the organization knows Montero is going to come up and possibly struggle adjusting to the League, but that he will get better on both ends as time goes. However, I can see most fans expecting this superb defending catcher that will hit 10 homers in his first 100 ABs. I simply can’t see that happening. I really think he should stay in the minors for another year, but he’s such an exciting prospect that I can’t help be want him up at the majors.

  62. AldotheApache August 6th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    blake August 6th, 2011 at 10:22 am
    Aldo,

    Hamels has been one of the best pitchers in baseball for over a year now…..he’s coming into his own. 147 Era + this year and a sub 1 WHIP.

    ————————————

    I know he’s been doing well this year, and I definitely like having lefty options in the rotation, but personally I’d have to see him have more than one season like this to drive away the visions of the pre-2011 Hamels I’m used to seeing.

  63. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    If Montero is to be eligible for the postseason roster, Cashman will have to pull the trigger by 8/31.
    ————————————————

    If Montero is to be eligible for the postseason roster, Cashman will have to pull the trigger by 8/31.
    ——————————–
    I think Montero can be added to the postseason roster after September 1st, if a catcher or DH [ his 2 positions] on the active roster goes on the DL. I’ll have to research this.

    Anyone else know the rules ?

  64. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    If an eligible player is injured and unable to play a club can call up any player in the organization regardless of their roster status* provided that the replacement player plays the same position (position player for position player and pitcher for pitcher), the replacement player was in the organization as of the August 31st deadline and they finished the season in the organization, and they receive approval from the commissioner.

    *The player would need to be added to the 40 man roster if they weren’t on it before they could be activated. They just wouldn’t have needed to be on the 40 man roster by any other deadlines

    If this is true, there are ways to add Montero to the postseason roster. I believe the Angels added K-Rod to the postseason roster after September 1st, when he mowed down the opposing teams during the playoffs.

  65. blake August 6th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    LGY,

    Yup

    Trader,
    Yup

    108,

    Yea….I know and I think on the road at KC would be a nice place to ease him in.

    Aldo,

    2009 is actually more the outlier in Hamels career than the past year……he’s been pretty darn good aside from one season….and in that season he was coming off an innings increase and being the WS MVP. He’s young, left handed, with loads of postseason experience……sign me up :)

    Hamels has been pretty good.save

  66. Yankee Trader August 6th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Gotta go.
    108 stitches-I hope your question was answered.
    Blake- Double Yup

    Till later. Have a great day everyone.

  67. AldotheApache August 6th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    Blake,

    Good points on Hamels, can’t argue with that.

  68. LGY August 6th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Take it FWIW

    @pgammo Heard several times amidst Yankees:”Nova is our second best starter”

  69. 108 stitches August 6th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    When Alex returns it’s likely to be Luis Ayala that’s on the bubble reducing the pitching staff to 12.
    It won’t be Nunez and if Andruw Jones is DFA’d, either Greg Golson or Eric Dickerson can replace him. If Montero gets the call, Cervelli is the victim. No way does Posada get cut because of his team longevity – not because of being that valuable of a bench player.

  70. Tar August 6th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    “Hughes is going through the same exact thing Hamels did in ’09 when he was terrible. The jump in innings ate away his arm strength and it took him a long time to come back.

    If they get a chance two years from now the yankees will drop 150M on a pitcher who just went through the exact same problem.”

    It’s always great having CB around. I agree Hamels earlier struggles maybe exactly what Phil is going through right now.

    Blake

    I agree about sitting Jeter vs Beckett. But you can imagine how that conversation would go between him and Joe. :D

  71. Ghostwriter August 6th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    This has been wildly successful road trip for the Yanks, better than anybody could have expected. A win today would ice it, and ensure that the Yanks return to The Bronx in with the lead in the AL East. I really like our chances today with the big man on the hill.

    BTW, the Yanks have very quietly compiled the best road record in baseball. You’ve got to love how this team is is rounding into shape for the stretch run.

  72. 86w183 August 6th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    At the start of the trip most would have been very happy with 5-2. Well, they got the 5, now it’s time to avoid the 2.

    I don’t get all the chatter about the rotation for 2012 and 2013. Can we get through 2011 first?

    I don’t think Montero will be called up before Sept 1. He’s still very young, still learning and developing and Cervelli has been playing better.

    I just wish they would send Noesi down and get him working as a starter. With this starting pitching, even 6 of them they don’t need 7 guys in the bullpen. Get Dickerson or Golson back.

  73. Doc Iac August 6th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    # Mike_Boston August 6th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    If Nova was allowed to pitch in the playoffs last year he would be a legitimate experienced #2 going into the playoffs this year. The guy pitched great under pressure down the stretch but of course Girardi ignored his gut and went with the books and left him off the roster. That would have been valuable experience and he might have been able to hold a couple of games where Hughes didn’t show up.
    —————————————
    Nova couldn’t make it past the 5th inning last year, this was a very known fact. It’s easy to kill Joe now for this kind of move with Nova looking so good, but how about a little reality and not revisionist history? A 5 inning pitcher is useless in the post season.

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