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Posada falls into a bench role

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 07, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

I’ll have more later, but real quickly…

Joe Girardi had a conversation with Jorge Posada this afternoon, telling Posada that the Yankees are going with their best lineup and Posada’s at-bats could diminish. Posada had already fallen into a platoon situation at DH, but it now seems that Girardi prefers to have both Eduardo Nunez and Eric Chavez in the lineup against right-handers.

“We’re going to see how this works,” Girardi said. “We’re going to try some different things. We’ll see how this works, and I told Jorge, ‘You’re still going to be a big part of this, and we’re going to need you. We’re just going to do some different things.’”

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72 Responses to “Posada falls into a bench role”

  1. West Coast Yankee Fan August 7th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    A.J. Burnett says he’s been told Yankees need to keep best rotation on the field – which no longer involves him. #wishfulthinking

  2. Crawdaddy August 7th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    The beginning of the end for Posada.

  3. Chase August 7th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Finally.

  4. blake August 7th, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Love Jorge but it was a change that had been coming for awhile…..they gave him 2/3 of the season to get it going and it just hasn’t happened…….I hope he has his day in the sun before the season is over…..maybe a big game at the stadium or a walk off homer or something…..

  5. pkyankfan69 August 7th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Tough on Posada I’m sure but this HAD to be done.
    I hope no infielders get hurt during the game tonight. Don’t want to see Cervelli playing the IF.

    Now they just need to call up Montero.

  6. Tarheel In NYC August 7th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Absolutely the right decision, but it still makes me a little sad.

  7. fantasygame101 August 7th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    I still prefer DL for posada.

  8. Tar August 7th, 2011 at 6:30 pm

    WCYF

    I know I have given you plenty of grief over the last bit ( you deserved every bit of it), But your hog tied of Beckett and /wishfulthinking posts were both very funny. More of that please. :D

  9. LGY August 7th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    About time.

    Free Montero!!

  10. randy l. August 7th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    posada is not off the team. he’s just going to have to take on a different role.

    things happen. chavez ‘s back goes out if he brushes his teeth too hard.

    i’m expecting a last hurrah for posada in some way .

    just a hunch.

  11. GreenBeret7 August 7th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Tar August 7th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
    blake

    I did learn one thing from that post, Pete does not like to be called a “dimwit”.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    That couldn’t have been the only thing that you learned from that post? It was worth 3 nasty e-mails from The Big Ham after my response to it. I believe GF had a couple that night, also.

  12. ZMAN August 7th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    Not in favor of this move if it means more AB for Nunez/Chavez/Jones, rather than Montero.

  13. TD213 August 7th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Posada will still get PH opportunities, especially when Gardner’s spot is up and we need some power.

  14. GreenBeret7 August 7th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Tar August 7th, 2011 at 6:30 pm
    WCYF

    I know I have given you plenty of grief over the last bit ( you deserved every bit of it), But your hog tied of Beckett and /wishfulthinking posts were both very funny. More of that please.

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    yeah, but his reason for hog-tying Beckett wasn’t to keep him off of the mound.

  15. Tar August 7th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    GB

    Haha. Pete was busy e-mailing the three of us that night!! LOL that’s too funny.

    Seriously, he does not like to be called a dimwit :D

  16. randy l. August 7th, 2011 at 6:37 pm

    there’s one thing i want to say to so called yankee fans.

    posada has had an absolutely amazing catching career with the yankees. he really has a good shot at the hall of fame.

    any real yankees fan should be championing posada for being a great player over almost two decades and not bad mouthing him every chance they can get as his career comes to an end.

    if you really want to make a habit of bashing great yankee players, why not just go all the way to the other side and root against them as red sox fans.

  17. Tar August 7th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    “yeah, but his reason for hog-tying Beckett wasn’t to keep him off of the mound.”

    You’re killing me. :D

  18. mick August 7th, 2011 at 6:39 pm

    make room for jesus

  19. blake August 7th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    “posada has had an absolutely amazing catching career with the yankees. he really has a good shot at the hall of fame.”

    I think he should be in…..he has 5 rings and his seasonal averages are among the best ever for a catcher. His numbers are better than some guys already in the Hall……he’s not a 1st ballot but I really hope he gets in one day. Just a great player….great Yankee.

  20. Roundabout August 7th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Posada’s tenure is nearing an end and it’s not going to be a happy one. We’re down to the core 2 for next year and maybe ending this year.
    Taking away Jorge’s catcher’ mitt was the start. Putting Jorge on revocable waivers was the most recent sign. Bringing up Jose Montero will be the second sign…Benching will be the final one.
    Posada was a great Yankee.. still is, just a non-playing one.

  21. GreenBeret7 August 7th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Tar August 7th, 2011 at 6:36 pm
    GB

    Haha. Pete was busy e-mailing the three of us that night!! LOL that’s too funny.

    Seriously, he does not like to be called a dimwit

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    He also was unhappy at the mention of do-nuts and being told that K. jones from behind looked like the back of a ’59 Buick. Of course, I did mention that he was petty, childish and spent his time stalking young Hollywood startlets on the internet.

  22. YankeeRay August 7th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    So J Alfred is Girardi disrespecting Posada because he wants to put the best lineup on the field? Yesterday I said the same exact thing Joe said and you accused me of taking sides with a Red Sox troll. Not taking sides or disrespecting a great Yankee just wanting whats best for the team.

    Good move

  23. GreenBeret7 August 7th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    They put everyone on waivers, including Rivera.

  24. Tar August 7th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Randy

    As Pat M would say “tin cup you’re pissin in the wind”..

    Anybody who’s worth reading on here, knows what you posted is the truth, and for the rest…. I guess we should just listen to Pat.

  25. jpb173 August 7th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    Roundabout August 7th, 2011 at 6:41 pm

    Posada’s tenure is nearing an end and it’s not going to be a happy one. We’re down to the core 2 for next year and maybe ending this year.
    Taking away Jorge’s catcher’ mitt was the start. Putting Jorge on revocable waivers was the most recent sign. Bringing up Jose Montero will be the second sign…

    ===============================================

    Who is Jose Montero???

  26. blake August 7th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Does keith Law think Jose Montero can catch in the big leagues :)

  27. DocTodd August 7th, 2011 at 6:45 pm

    Thank God Girardi finally grew a pair…Jorgie WAS a great Yankee, but after 2/3 of the season ,being futile, what had to be done is finally being done….Now promote Montero already!

  28. Abe Peteraham August 7th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Yay for best lineup

  29. joeman August 7th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    25 more days till Montero shows ..

  30. Captain Clutch August 7th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    The dh has been benched so what is the delay in bringing up montero? Chavez can’t play everyday anyway. Let’s see what the kid can do.

  31. Germfree Adolescents August 7th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    any real yankees fan should be championing posada for being a great player over almost two decades and not bad mouthing him every chance they can get as his career comes to an end.

    I guess making up and injury and refusing to play in a game is ok with you

  32. fantasygame101 August 7th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    I do not know what is more a disgrace to posada, going on the dl (at least a doubt of an injury) or just be a pinch hitter bec. he is not part of the best lineup to put in? I mean losing your job to arod is one thing but to nunez/andruw?

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock August 7th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Don’t really see Posada being done as much as diminished ABs & not able to get it going and being 40 years old & on final year. Got in a rut as RHB, they gave him no real leash to get out of that, was going good until NL away sked and AS Break. Fine, they feel they don’t have luxury or time to let him work his way back, & being his age, & not playing a position, it takes some time for him to get his swing back.

    But since this decision has been made, get Montero into this lineup now. This team can’t slug like it used to carrying Gardner AND Martin.

    Montero added in now, and Alex’s imminent return, are desperately needed. Whole different lineup than what’s out there presently.

    As for the abusive comments about Posada and epithets directed at him, if some of you sat in my section & spoke that way about Posada, I’d probably lose my seasons, but it would probably be worth it :D.

  34. tucker August 7th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    Randy — excellent post about Posada. He has been at the heart of this clubhouse for a long time. No catcher has been better with the bat. They will miss his offense. They will also miss his personality after this year .

    That said, this is the right move for now. His slower bat speed is evident. And Chavez — fingers crossed for his continued health — really lengthens this lineup. And nunez’s slashing swing can catch up to any fastball. This makes the team better right now.

  35. Laura - I Bleed Blue August 7th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    “any real yankees fan should be championing posada for being a great player over almost two decades and not bad mouthing him every chance they can get as his career comes to an end.”

    Jorge, is that you? :P

    Seriously, do you think fans have enjoyed watching Jorge be a shell of his former self this season? We’d all like to have the Jorge from years ago back on the field. Unfortunately, that guy is gone. What’s important now is to do what is best for the team, which is to construct a lineup with guys who will get hits. Not for nothing, Jorge should (and probably does) want that as well.

  36. J. Alfred Prufrock August 7th, 2011 at 6:51 pm

    YankeeRay, I’m sorry for you that you don’t understand why I’d want Posada respected, and I said if you wanted to disrespect him, that was your prerogative, but that you were piling on him with a Red Sox troll.

    No accounting for taste, I guess. Now get lost.

  37. blake August 7th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    I don’t think they’ll want to bring up Montero soon after benching Jorge…..it would create a firestorm especially at home. I think on the road in KC would be a perfect spot to bring him into the fray…..if they don’t then then it probably wont be until rosters expand…….I expect to see him before then though as I’ve said before……I think they’ll want to see what he can do before the waiver trade deadline.

  38. sunny615 August 7th, 2011 at 6:52 pm

    Thank goodness. Hopefully. Montero sees daylight soon now.

  39. sunny615 August 7th, 2011 at 6:53 pm

    Now all they have to do is trade Cervelli for a pack of gum.

  40. Roundabout August 7th, 2011 at 6:55 pm

    Jorge Posada is on the cusp of the Hall of Fame, likely below. He was an excellent hitting catcher, but he never dominated his position during his career, never won an MVP; was a candidate in 2003 (3rd) and 2007 (6th) and only four All-Star honors. He’s not close to Piazza as a hitter , 121 OPS to 142 for MP (better on D, not saying much) Pug has many more all-star appearances..

    Yes, my error.. Jesus Montero..

  41. GreenBeret7 August 7th, 2011 at 6:56 pm

    From Josh Norris

    http://lockerz.com/s/127593481

  42. Niblick August 7th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    Binder Joe is a moron. He’s always hated Jorge because Jorge took his job. Let’s see if Chavez can make it through the month without re-injuring himself.

  43. Pauldanand August 7th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    Sorry, Jorge… keep your chin up. We love you!

    The LoHudders

  44. Niblick August 7th, 2011 at 6:58 pm

    If Binder Joe had any brains (or balls), he’d take AJ out of the rotation.

  45. 108 stitches August 7th, 2011 at 6:59 pm

    No need to sugarcoat it, time waits for nobody. The bat speed of Jorge has diminished. Better for Girardi to tell him now. Jorge would have lost at bats when Alex returns and he’ll get some DH time to save his legs for the postseason. If Montero gets called up it’s even more DH at bats Jorge will not get. It is what it is.

  46. blake August 7th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Check out Jorge’s numbers compared to some of the catchers already in the HOF….namely Carter and Fisk …..combine that with 5 rings and I think he is deserving

  47. Roundabout August 7th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Posada made the All-Star team five times

  48. joeman August 7th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    T..Storms up by Albany heading east really don’t see them moving with much speed, game will start on time but may have a rain delay somewhere in the middle of the game

  49. DocTodd August 7th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    Niblick….The only fan who fails to see that the designated HITTER needs to hit to keep his job…

  50. J. Alfred Prufrock August 7th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    YankeeRay, the only reason I cut you any slack in the first place was because I mistook you for a poster called Ray in VT. But Ray in VT would never join in with a Red Sox troll, that OTHELLO phony, to mock someone as important to Yankee glory and as trueblue a Yankee as Posada.

    You did, so that says all I need to know about your Yankee fandom.
    ///

    AMonte with a great catch to bail Dellin out of a jam, according to radio guys.

  51. jacksquat August 7th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    blake August 7th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
    “I did learn one thing from that post, Pete does not like to be called a “dimwit”.

    The truth hurts.

  52. fantasygame101 August 7th, 2011 at 7:02 pm

    Chavez healthy and productive results to posada departure from everyday lineup. If hughes and nova continue to succeed, will it results in AJ demotion too? if they go by logic then it should.

  53. Abe Peteraham August 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    AJ is a good #4 pitcher…. Who cares what hes being paid

  54. DocTodd August 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    AJ to the pen

  55. hardwired7 August 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm

    No matter how it ends, it was an awesome Yankees career.

    Thanks for giving the Yanks a switch-hitting power threat from the catching position for so many yrs, Jorge.

  56. J. Alfred Prufrock August 7th, 2011 at 7:04 pm

    DocTodd August 7th, 2011 at 7:01 pm
    Niblick….The only fan who fails to see that the designated HITTER needs to hit to keep his job…
    ///

    DocTodd, you are a ghoul. Your relentless attacks on Posada & Jeter would get your a s s kicked in Yankee Stadium. Now go consort with the rats at Fenway Park.

  57. blake August 7th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    I agree that AJ is a good back end starter if you ignore his contract…..the problem for.me comes when he starts to block guys that are just as good and 10 years younger. When that starts to happen then the Yanks have consider making a change IMO.

  58. jonathan p August 7th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    i really hope this signifies the calling up of montero. I would actually take it a step further and release jorge to call up jesus.

  59. blake August 7th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    I firmly believe the Yanks wouldn’t have 27 titles without Jorge. Im not saying they’d have 23…..just that Im not sure they win all they did wihout him.

  60. J. Alfred Prufrock August 7th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    hardwired7 August 7th, 2011 at 7:03 pm
    No matter how it ends, it was an awesome Yankees career.

    Thanks for giving the Yanks a switch-hitting power threat from the catching position for so many yrs, Jorge.
    ///

    Indeed. :D

  61. joeman August 7th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    # blake August 7th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    I agree that AJ is a good back end starter if you ignore his contract…..the problem for.me comes when he starts to block guys that are just as good and 10 years younger. When that starts to happen then the Yanks have consider making a change IMO.
    ————————————-
    what gets me about AJ with his stuff he can throw a gem when you least expect it..

  62. Roundabout August 7th, 2011 at 7:09 pm

    After all Jorge Posada has done for the Yanks, arguable one of the game’s top catchers of his generation, the Yanks can’t dump him during the season. That would be cold, wrong, embarassing for him and the team..

  63. randy l. August 7th, 2011 at 7:10 pm

    “Seriously, do you think fans have enjoyed watching Jorge be a shell of his former self this season? ”

    i have a tremendous amount of respect for a guy who played the catching position at as high a level that posada did for as long as he did.

    people who have no idea what catching does to a players body got spoiled by how long posada played without ever going on the disabled list.

    i’m not going to waste my time mincing words. most of the fans bashing posada have no idea what it feels like doing what he did behind the plate. martin is in his prime and still barely outhits posada. the position beats you up. it takes hits away from you. and years.

    if that doesn’t put some perspective on how great posada was, nothing does.

    what is martin’s excuse at age 28? he’s become an average fielding catcher and he sucks as a hitter right now. if jorge sucks, then martin does too.

    i would have liked girardi to have had martin, cervelli, and posada in that meeting to tell them they all suck as hitters and that montero is coming up and someone is going to be odd man out

    to just tell posada only something is changing is really just not to the point. martin, cervelli, and posada all have been problems offensively.

  64. blake August 7th, 2011 at 7:11 pm

    “what gets me about AJ with his stuff he can throw a gem when you least expect it..”

    He could…..but his stuff isn’t what it used to be….its still above average but its not in the top tier in baseball anymore. That was his calling card and its not there anymore and so far he hasn’t been able to improve other areas enough to compensate for it.

  65. joeman August 7th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    here I was at the beginning of the year when Po got out quick that if he kept it up would they sign him to a 1 year deal at the end of the year… ..Po – HOF I would think so at some point

  66. blake August 7th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    Randy,

    Bravo.

  67. randy l. August 7th, 2011 at 7:15 pm

    blake-

    i get a little fired up sometimes .

  68. joeman August 7th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    I for one think Martin is a top 10 hitting catcher in baseball this year

  69. J. Alfred Prufrock August 7th, 2011 at 7:19 pm

    I pity the aging parents of some of you.

    Good thoughts from many here about Jorge. Thanks, from a fellow Yankee fan.

    I’m out.

  70. Jerkface August 7th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Posada is a hall of famer, definitely just look at the catcher leaderboards he is surrounded by hall of famers, but not the best choice for this team right now.

  71. lil m August 7th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Randy: Tell it. Even a semi-clueless fan like yours truly knows Jorge gave this team a huge advantage at catcher as a switch-hitter with discipline, power and amazing durability. He is one of the great Yankees of the dynasty run, somewhat underrated and at times taken for granted. And he is a big-time leader in the clubhouse along with the Captain, widely respected on the Yankees and around baseball. I’m looking forward to seeing him come up big in October. I suspect Jorge Posada will not be fully appreciated by Yankee fans until after he’s gone, and I’m glad that time has not yet come.

  72. Carlo August 7th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Randy – what u are missing is that martin has been an average offensive catcher this year. Posada has been a way below average DH. Calling martin and cervelli in to tell them they stink is counter productive.

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