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The three exceptions

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 08, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees have used 40 different players this season, a list that includes brief stints by Buddy Carlyle, Steve Garrison, Brian Gordon, Jeff Marquez, Amauri Sanit, Brandon Laird and Greg Golson. They’ve sent 17 different players to the disabled list, including two starting pitchers, two setup relievers and two starting infielders.

But after 113 games, the current roster looks remarkably similar to the Opening Day roster. Only three current Yankees were not on the team on March 31.

Francisco Cervelli
In place of Gustavo Molina
Really, this was Cervelli’s job all along. It was momentarily up for grabs when Cervelli was hurt in spring training, but his temporary replacement, Molina, got exactly three at-bats before Cervelli was activated. It might be a different story had Jesus Montero won the job out of camp, but he didn’t, and Cervelli’s taken his familiar spot on the bench. He’s more-or-less become Sabathia’s personal catcher in a behind-the-place rotation that lets Russell Martin get a regular day off every five days. So far the Yankees have stuck with Cervelli rather than call Montero up from Triple-A.

Cory Wade
In place of Joba Chamberlain
I guess this is the way it’s worked out: Rafael Soriano has replaced Chamberlain in the seventh inning, Dave Robertson has replaced Soriano in the eighth, and Wade has replaced Robertson as the middle-innings, get-out-of-trouble reliever. Signing Wade to a minor league deal on June 13 was one of the best and least noticed moves of the season. He has the lowest WHIP on the team, even lower than the closer. For a while it seemed that Luis Ayala was emerging as the the top reliever beyond the late-inning trio, but that distinction clearly belongs to Wade these days. He got a big out for the Yankees on Friday, and he’s been without question the organization’s best in-season addition.

Hector Noesi
In place of Alex Rodriguez
With Rodriguez on the disabled list, the Yankees are carrying an extra pitcher, and essentially that’s the spot Noesi is filling. He’s taken the role that belonged to Bartolo Colon on Opening Day — a multi-inning reliever capable of pitching key late innings if necessary — and now that Colon has joined the original five starters, Noesi is filling the open spot in the bullpen. Given the Yankees young rotation depth, it’s inevitable that some young starters are going to be moved into the bullpen, and Noesi has taken to the role. He’s had some rocky outings — he struggled on Saturday — but as a long man, he’s been generally reliable and occasionally outstanding.

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155 Responses to “The three exceptions”

  1. AldotheApache August 8th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    Baseball pales in comparison to the news of 30 American lives lost in a copter crash in Afghanistan, mostly elite forces on their way to aid others in a fierce firefight.

    These brave heroes leave wives and little children behind to mourn, it’s just so sad.

    The greatest sacrifice possible for this great country.

  2. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    Wade should be given the opportunity to teach Hughes how to throw a change-up for a strike and how to get the courage to throw a change up with the bases loaded on a full count-
    The change he threw to ellsbury last night was very, very impressive.

  3. austinmac August 8th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Well said Aldo. Let’s put our prayers toward the families and not for a base hit.

  4. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    pat,

    Do you have a link to that excerpt?

  5. blake August 8th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Aldo,

    I hadn’t even heard about that yet. That’s terrible news though….thoughts and prayers to those families.

  6. Irreverent Discourse August 8th, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    It is extremely unfortunate that the members of SEAL TEAM 6 had to sacrifice their lives to perpetuate the myths and lies about the bin Ladens and the wars in the middle east.

  7. Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    J Alfred – I kind of wonder (and maybe fear) if we’re falling into the same trap we did last season where we found ourselves settling for the wild card slot. We seem to keep flip flopping.. On one hand, it seems theres no urgency to win now with a 7 game lead in the wild card race. On the other hand, Phil Hughes is working out of the pen in a game in the beginning of August. Its very Jekyll and Hyde.

    Personally, I don’t have preference re: winning the division/wild card. I think as long as you’re invited to the dance you have a chance to boogie. That being said, this team has to be clicking on all cylinders by the middle of September if we want to make it to the end.

  8. Villa Nova-Ya August 8th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    One thought about Hughes last night.

    I thought it was made fairly clear leading up to the game that Girardi would use Hughes from the bullpen if necessary last night. It should not have been a surprise to Hughes or leave anyone scratching their heads over the move. It is the nature of most relief appearances that the situation isn’t necessarily going to be optimal. However, Phil Hughes came into a tie game with a clean inning. He didn’t have to work out of anyone’s trouble. Yes, it was a sudden death situation, but I think that once Mo went into that game, Hughes was thinking his night was all about a “throw session” and he was not mentally prepared.

    That or he just made some bad pitches. ;)

  9. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 12:44 pm

    J Alfred – I kind of wonder (and maybe fear) if we’re falling into the same trap we did last season where we found ourselves settling for the wild card slot.

    ==============================

    They’re 36-17 over their last 53. Those aren’t the numbers of a team that is settling for anything.

  10. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Made my first trip to Fenway this weekend. Have to say, I was a little disappointed.

    Not by the park – I liked it, probably top three along with old Yankee Stadium and Camden Yards.

    I wasn’t disappointed by the games – I mean I was, but not any more than I would have been watching at home.

    No, I was disappointed by the fans. They were polite, no one messed with me but based on the number of men my own age wearing jerseys of contemporary players, I don’t think many of them were fans prior to 2004.

    The rule is that (as a man and fan) you are not allowed to wear the jersey of a player who joined your team after you turned 18.

    For me that means I can wear Mattingly, Winfield, Paulie or Bernie…but not Jeter, Mo, A-Rod, Cano/Tino or Jorge.

    For Sox fans my age they are in the Boggs, Vaughn, Clemens group…which is rough given that both Boggs and Clemens eventually were Yankees. So I would throw them a bone and say if they wanted to don a Nomar or Varitek jersey I would allow it. Anyway, after all this time of hearing about how the fans at Fenway are “true fans” I was more than a little disappointed with their showing.

    On other topics:
    Sounds like Montero watch is in full effect, though I wouldn’t be shocked if rather than call up the kid Girardi opts to bring up either Kevin Russo or Chris Dickerson and use DH as more of a rotation, keeping both Chavez and Nunez in the lineup for the most part. Remember, Alex will be back in a week or so and then Girardi can rotate him, Jeter, Chavez and Jones through the DH spot.

    That said – I’m glad they’ve finally seem to come to grips with the fact that Jorge is not a viable bat in the lineup any more. At the game Saturday I just remember looking at the lineup and the rallys that the Yankees were putting together and knowing exactly when they would end based on Jorge’s spot in the lineup.

  11. blake August 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    I think if anyone had been told the Yanks would go 5-2 on the road trip they would have gladly taken it.

  12. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    I thought it was made fairly clear leading up to the game that Girardi would use Hughes from the bullpen if necessary last night.

    ===========================

    In what way was it necessary to bring Hughes in at that point?

  13. 86w183 August 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Wade was a terrific pickup.

    Noesi should be starting in Scranton at this point. He’s only pitched 3 2/3 innings in the last 15 games.

    A 13th pitcher is a complete waste of a roster spot…. especially with Jorge now on double secret probation.

  14. Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Mell – The rest of my post explains why I’m saying that…

  15. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    I think if anyone had been told the Yanks would go 5-2 on the road trip they would have gladly taken it.
    =========================

    Exactly. At 5-0 with your ace on the bump for Game 6, the perspective changes a little, but 5-2 is still a good road trip.

  16. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Bret, why do you keep reposting that cereal analogy to Hughes? It’s not THAT funny,lol.

    After throwing only 13 pitches, the only reason I can think for him not to pitch on Tuesday is that the Yankees prefer to keep Nova on relatively regular rest. I was not a fan of using Phil out of the pen – he’s a starter and until the Yankees determine he’s a reliever then he should not be used out of the pen. He didn’t do his job, but then neither did most of the hitters and, unfortunately Mo.

  17. Barry August 8th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    The apparent fascination with Montero is stunning. This guy has proven nothing at the major league level. He could easily turn out to be this years’, or next season’s, Austin Jackson. Cervelli is adequate, he is after all, the 2nd catcher. We are getting a big bat back shortly. Far bigger than anyone else. The people posting about Montero have phantasy baseball in their heads, not the real thing. And Posada is with the team. The stuff about Rizzuto was awful at the time. A criticism of the front office. They won anyway. Would have with Phil. Hope the current crop of office types are more respectful. Just as bloggers should be. To throw a great man under the bus, and for nothing and no one, is inappropriate Yankee behaviour.

  18. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Villa Nova-Ya August 8th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
    One thought about Hughes last night.

    I thought it was made fairly clear leading up to the game that Girardi would use Hughes from the bullpen if necessary last night. It should not have been a surprise to Hughes or leave anyone scratching their heads over the move. It is the nature of most relief appearances that the situation isn’t necessarily going to be optimal. However, Phil Hughes came into a tie game with a clean inning. He didn’t have to work out of anyone’s trouble. Yes, it was a sudden death situation, but I think that once Mo went into that game, Hughes was thinking his night was all about a “throw session” and he was not mentally prepared.

    That or he just made some bad pitches.
    **********************************************************
    Excellent post.
    Hughes made two horrible pitches.
    The fastball down and in to Ortiz was a HUGE mistake. Why he threw a fastball down and in makes me wonder-I have to assume he missed location.
    The “get me over” curve to end the game was another mistake.
    I can’t fault him so much for the pitch selection, but its just frustrating to see Hughes out there to start the 10th & he continues to make “mental mistakes”.

  19. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    The rule is that (as a man and fan) you are not allowed to wear the jersey of a player who joined your team after you turned 18.

    ———————–

    I personally think it is tacky to wear the jersey of a player not on the team anymore.

  20. DaveD August 8th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Girardi had faith that Hughes would be able to amp himself up for 1 inning, throw hard, and his suspect secondary pitches wouldn’t kill him.

    At that point, did it matter? Ayala, Noesi, Hughes, flip a coin. We were screwed at that point. Who was going to close anyway if we got a lead?

  21. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Shame:

    I guess I’m not seeing how you can conclude some sort of lack of urgency exists. This team has been playing .680 baseball for the past two months.

  22. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    86w183 August 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Wade was a terrific pickup.

    Noesi should be starting in Scranton at this point. He’s only pitched 3 2/3 innings in the last 15 games.

    A 13th pitcher is a complete waste of a roster spot…. especially with Jorge now on double secret probation.

    —————————–

    Agree with you on Wade but not on Noesi.

    Yankees need a long man in their pen and with Mitre and Marquez hurt, Noesi is it – you can’t count Hughes or Nova since one of them has to be the guy taken out of this dumb 6 man rotation.

    I know, if we’re going on merit – AJ should be taken out – but we’re all adult enough to know that’s not happening and why.

  23. blake August 8th, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    . “This guy has proven nothing at the major league level. ”

    Hard to do when you’ve never been given an opportunity to play in the major leagues……you could say the same of every player that ever played before they made their big league debut. That doesn’t mean he will come up and do great……doesn’t mean he will come up and stink either.

  24. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Chip August 8th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
    86w183 August 8th, 2011 at 12:46 pm
    Wade was a terrific pickup.

    Noesi should be starting in Scranton at this point. He’s only pitched 3 2/3 innings in the last 15 games.

    A 13th pitcher is a complete waste of a roster spot…. especially with Jorge now on double secret probation.

    —————————–

    Agree with you on Wade but not on Noesi.

    Yankees need a long man in their pen and with Mitre and Marquez hurt, Noesi is it – you can’t count Hughes or Nova since one of them has to be the guy taken out of this dumb 6 man rotation.

    I know, if we’re going on merit – AJ should be taken out – but we’re all adult enough to know that’s not happening and why.
    ***********************************************
    Carrying 13 pitchers through the red sox series was a wise choice.
    Now that the team has a day off today, it might be a good idea to send a member of the pen down and bring up another bench player.

  25. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    I’m not going to blame Girardi for using Phil……if he had done his job, he wouldn’t perhaps be thinking “I suck”. Joe put him in a position of confidence – well, maybe not because all the best reliever had been used – but had Hughes done his job, then he maybe would think better of himself. I notice that some of the people who didn’t have any problems in theory with Phil pitching out of the pen on this throw day are now all of a sudden having problems with it…..

    As for Fenway, come on, stop with the complaints. Every team has to deal with that – and the park has been there for close to 100 years – by now the teams know what to expect.

  26. J. Alfred Prufrock August 8th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 12:39 pm
    J Alfred – I kind of wonder (and maybe fear) if we’re falling into the same trap we did last season where we found ourselves settling for the wild card slot. We seem to keep flip flopping.. On one hand, it seems theres no urgency to win now with a 7 game lead in the wild card race. On the other hand, Phil Hughes is working out of the pen in a game in the beginning of August. Its very Jekyll and Hyde.

    Personally, I don’t have preference re: winning the division/wild card. I think as long as you’re invited to the dance you have a chance to boogie. That being said, this team has to be clicking on all cylinders by the middle of September if we want to make it to the end.
    ///

    Shame, I always wish to win the division because I take pride in our prolifically having done so for years, but also because I want that homefield advantage in the postseason, particularly if they’re going to run with the current lineup construction if we face Boston in the ALCS.

    But: I also don’t want moves we might make here in the stretch handcuffed by division-winning considerations, if they’re Bigger Picture potential improvements but less conventional. My own belief is that those potential improvements can also aid winning the division, but as has been correctly observed, the Yankees are conservative to a fault. We’ll see. Getting Alex back will help all our causes. Promoting Montero could really put the lineup over the top, but I’m becoming very skeptical on that front, given Girardi’s preferences and comments.

  27. Irreverent Discourse August 8th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Just because Fenway has been there forever doesn’t mean you have to like it, or accept it’s absurdity.

  28. blake August 8th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Buster Posey had never proven proven anything in the big leagues

  29. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    LGY August 8th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
    The rule is that (as a man and fan) you are not allowed to wear the jersey of a player who joined your team after you turned 18.

    ———————–

    I personally think it is tacky to wear the jersey of a player not on the team anymore.

    ——————-

    If he’s active and on another team I would agree with you – if he’s a retired player then I disagree. Though with some numbers it can get confusing.

    For example if I was to wear my #20 people might think I was wearing it for Jorge Posada – but they would be wrong – I would be sporting that for Mike Stanley.

  30. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Also, he’s not used to relieving any more? It was just one inning – he just had to treat it like any other inning.

  31. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    As for Fenway, come on, stop with the complaints. Every team has to deal with that – and the park has been there for close to 100 years – by now the teams know what to expect.

    ———————————-

    I have no complaints about Fenway. I have complaints about Red Sox fans.

  32. Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Mell – No conclusions made, just observing that at times (Montero) it appears that we take a conservative, wait-and-see approach and other times (Hughes to the pen) it seems we’re doing the exact opposite and causing ourselves more headaches.

  33. 86w183 August 8th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Chip —

    There is no need for a long man with the quality of starting pitching the Yanks have been getting. the “long man” is used maybe once every 2-3 weeks and generally isn’t worth the roster spot.

    Until Hughes goes 90+ pitches I’m not going to be convince he is going to regain his form of early 2010. If AJ stinks next time maybe he punches a wall, breaks his hand and ens this six-man rotation silliness.

    A three-man bench is absurd, especially when one of the three can’t hit, can’t run and can only field one position (and not very well).

  34. J. Alfred Prufrock August 8th, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    Barry August 8th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    The apparent fascination with Montero is stunning. This guy has proven nothing at the major league level. He could easily turn out to be this years’, or next season’s, Austin Jackson.
    ///

    This alone is a great example of how discussions in here get dumbed down by ridiculous analogies.

    No one in any scouting bureau, nor any GM, would compare Montero’s offensive future with Austin Jackson’s. No one.

  35. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Chip

    Are you really trying to tell us that we need to get a lohud fund going to so you can pony up for a new jersey?

    You are rockin a Mike Stanley jersey? Come on man!

  36. Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Chip + LGY – How much money do you guys have to spend on jerseys?!

  37. yanks 27 August 8th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Run differential and winning % against the rest of the league doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things. We’re not going to be facing the Orioles and Mariners in the playoffs… we’re going to be facing teams like the Sox, Angels, Tigers, etc.

    Does it matter if the Sox don’t play as well against the little sisters of the poor as we do? They have won 10 of 12 against us, the team they will most likely be competing with for the pennant.

    Bottom line – our star players/pitchers need to start performing like stars against the Sox. Not going to win a series when your ace, closer, #4-5 hitters, etc. don’t show up. And A-Rod is not the cure-all here. We were just as inconsistent on offense when he was here and lost 8 of 9 vs. BOS with him here. They should be past the point of waiting for him to save the team.

  38. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Chip, I’m not referring to you. There were several posts in the previous thread about how the Yankees lost the game because of the park…….I dont’ buy it. They lost the game because Mo blew the save, Phil didn’t do his job and the offense was pretty poor.

  39. J. Alfred Prufrock August 8th, 2011 at 1:00 pm

    Check in later hoping to see Montero’s been called up but not holding my breath, either.

    ALEX GET WELL SOON!

  40. blake August 8th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Chip,

    Your rule excludes GB7 and MTU from wearing any jerseys……that’s not fair. :)

  41. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    At this point, I don’t even know why it’s necessary to go with a 6 man rotation…..

  42. DocTodd August 8th, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Expect to see Monty Sept 1, not a minute before that..

  43. DocTodd August 8th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Banish AJ to the pen..

  44. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
    Chip + LGY – How much money do you guys have to spend on jerseys?!

    ——————–

    I don’t spend anything on jersey’s anymore. I have four:

    Mattingly
    Stanley
    Rags
    Paulie

  45. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    J. Alfred Prufrock August 8th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
    Check in later hoping to see Montero’s been called up but not holding my breath, either.

    ALEX GET WELL SOON!
    ******************************************

    Montero will be called up after Sept 1.
    His defense is lacking & Cervelli has a great thing going w/C.C.
    That alone gives Cervelli some value to the team.

    ARod can’t return to the team soon enough.

  46. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    blake August 8th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
    Chip,

    Your rule excludes GB7 and MTU from wearing any jerseys……that’s not fair.
    ————-

    They have to wear those ones that didn’t even have numbers…

  47. DaveD August 8th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    “At this point, I don’t even know why it’s necessary to go with a 6 man rotation…..”

    An easy way out for them not to make a decision on who to send down.

  48. Bronx Jeers August 8th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    No, I was disappointed by the fans. They were polite, no one messed with me but based on the number of men my own age wearing jerseys of contemporary players,
    —————————————————–

    I’ve been there a couple of times and had similar experience although I can’t say I was disappointed.

    However I am disappointed when I see Yankee fans in the Bronx act poorly to guests.

  49. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    Dave, send Hughes down. He hasn’t been better than AJ and Nova is a keeper. Let Hughes get his innings in down there…but then you have to decide what do do with him after the minor league season ends.

  50. Ghost of Steinbrenner August 8th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    I love Jorge but Girardi is right. He has to go with the best team and that doesn’t include Jorge right now! You can’t have a DH batting .240 all year with no power numbers or RBI’s. Jorge should go gracefully!

  51. TD213 August 8th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    If you’ve read Cashman’s quotes, he certainly sounds like someone who is delusional about how good the offense is. It’s like he is looking at the names and not the production.

    This is not 2010 Cano, 2009 Tex, 2009 Jeter, 2009 Jorge, 2007 Martin, 2007 A-Rod, 2004 Andruw Jones, 2005 Eric Chavez, etc.

    Only guys performing up to or close to expectations are Granderson and Gardner.

  52. William Buckner August 8th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Roster construction – from P to position players, has been bad all year. It seems like a tradition for NYY to carry too many pitchers. Hughes has earned a SP role. Posada should have been cut after incident where he pulled himself. Cashman can learn a lot from Theo. Traded Nomar and Manny. Let Pedro, Johnny Damon, Mueller, Milar all walk. Probably will with Papi too. This shouldn’t be a legacy charity, should be performance based.

  53. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:07 pm
    Dave, send Hughes down. He hasn’t been better than AJ and Nova is a keeper. Let Hughes get his innings in down there…but then you have to decide what do do with him after the minor league season ends.

    ——————–

    Can’t send Hughes down – I believe he’s out of options

  54. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    Chip + LGY – How much money do you guys have to spend on jerseys?!

    ——————-

    :lol:

    I only have one Yankee jersey and shirt and my closet right now! Both Cano.

    I am not really into buying a lot of Yankee gear, but you have to stay updated!

  55. William Buckner August 8th, 2011 at 1:09 pm

    “Hughes has earned a SP role”

    Hasn’t***

  56. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    Did someone write, “send Hughes down”….LOL!!!
    For the love, the team is not a video game…..LOL!!!

  57. Ghost of Steinbrenner August 8th, 2011 at 1:11 pm

    And let’s all quit this Montero talk. The guy is average at best and is not even equal to Cervelli at this point.

  58. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Chip, no he’s not……This use of the 6 man rotation is awkward – I’m not sure why they feel it’s necessary. I’ve never liked it anyway.

  59. Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    I settle for the tshirt “jerseys” that I know are oh so controversial..

    $20 a pop, I can wear gear from the whole starting line up without spending as much on a legit jersey (which are clearly not designed for the female form anyway..if I wanted to look like a box, I’d wear one).

  60. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:13 pm

    86w183 August 8th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Chip —

    There is no need for a long man with the quality of starting pitching the Yanks have been getting. the “long man” is used maybe once every 2-3 weeks and generally isn’t worth the roster spot.

    Until Hughes goes 90+ pitches I’m not going to be convince he is going to regain his form of early 2010. If AJ stinks next time maybe he punches a wall, breaks his hand and ens this six-man rotation silliness.

    A three-man bench is absurd, especially when one of the three can’t hit, can’t run and can only field one position (and not very well).

    ————————–

    I agree – a three man bench is absurd, but like Girardi said yesterday – how often do the Yankees really pinch hit? If they are going to play both Nunez and Chavez in the lineup at the same time they do need to call up another infielder and with Pena on the DL the choices are Laird or putting Russo back on the 40 man roster. I would go with Russo since he can at least bring a pinch running element with him.

  61. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Run differential and winning % against the rest of the league doesn’t mean much in the grand scheme of things.
    ==================================

    I think I agree. Yankees lead the AL in run differential at +167 over 133 games, but +117 of that has come in 45 games against teams who are under .500. They are basically beating those teams by 2.5 runs per game on average, which is actually pretty impressive, but doesn’t change the fact that everything over and above 1 run per game is windowdressing. In 68 games against teams .500 or better, they’ve outscored oppoents by 50 runs even. Still pretty good. Boston is +62 in 48 games against teams under .500 and +82 in 65 games against teams over .500.

    What’s it all mean? Like you said, not much.

  62. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
    86w183 August 8th, 2011 at 12:58 pm
    Chip —

    There is no need for a long man with the quality of starting pitching the Yanks have been getting. the “long man” is used maybe once every 2-3 weeks and generally isn’t worth the roster spot.

    Until Hughes goes 90+ pitches I’m not going to be convince he is going to regain his form of early 2010. If AJ stinks next time maybe he punches a wall, breaks his hand and ens this six-man rotation silliness.

    A three-man bench is absurd, especially when one of the three can’t hit, can’t run and can only field one position (and not very well).

    —————

    Oh, but I disagree about the need for a long man being overblown. Without a guy capable of giving you three or four innings you’re setting yourself up for a problem. If, for example, AJ goes on Tuesday and gets lit up in 2 innings and you don’t have a guy like Noesi then you’re going to be in a jam trying to get 2 or 3 inning stints from short guys like Wade and Ayala and Logan.

  63. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 1:16 pm

    *…+167 over 113 games…not 133.

  64. Villa Nova-Ya August 8th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    Just gonna keep referring “Murderer’s Row and then Cano” and the freakin’ midges. The Yankees were a “lock” to beat Detroit and Cleveland those years.

    And that’s just the Yankees. Philly was crowned champion but ran into the Giants, who had other ideas.

    Post season is a new season. Anything can happen.

    Should you hedge your bets a little? Sure. But first of all, it is not guaranteed that they’ll face the Red Sox in the playoffs – the same “anything can happen” refers to everyone, not just the Yankees. either or both teams could get knocked out in the first round. Or neither. And then you cross that bridge. ARod will be back and, God willing, healthy. That alone makes a difference.

  65. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:18 pm

    LGY August 8th, 2011 at 1:09 pm
    Chip + LGY – How much money do you guys have to spend on jerseys?!

    ——————-

    I only have one Yankee jersey and shirt and my closet right now! Both Cano.

    I am not really into buying a lot of Yankee gear, but you have to stay updated!
    ———————

    Could always say it’s a Russ Davis jersey.

  66. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:19 pm

    Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
    Chip, no he’s not……This use of the 6 man rotation is awkward – I’m not sure why they feel it’s necessary. I’ve never liked it anyway.

    —————–

    While I’m sure that Girardi and co. are devestated that you don’t like the 6 man rotation they’re doing it for a couple of reasons:

    1. With a 7 game lead in the Wild Card they can try to give Colon and Garcia a little extra rest

    2. They’re not sure what to do with Nova and Hughes. They want to give them both a chance to make their case and thus far don’t know which one to drop from the rotation.

  67. TD213 August 8th, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    I think the way Hughes threw out of the pen yesterday might make the Yankees think twice about whether putting him in the pen is beneficial to him. If he doesn’t throw 95-96 like he did in 2009, what is the point? It will be like Joba last year – a poor man’s version of his dominant self.

  68. Irreverent Discourse August 8th, 2011 at 1:21 pm

    blake Posey was also killing AAA to the tune of .321/.391 /.511 at the time, and is a better defensive catcher than Montero could ever hope to be.

    It also wasn’t August in the middle of a pennant race when he was called up, so they more time to acclimate him to the pitching staff.

  69. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    TD213-
    You can’t base your opinion of Hughes vs the red sox last night on how hard he threw.
    Do you understand Hughes was going to pitch extended innings last night?
    He was not planning to throw only 1 inning & hand the ball over to the next guy.

    Get your head in the game!!

  70. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:22 pm

    Chip, what the hell is your problem? Have a nice day, won’t you?

  71. EA August 8th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Mell,

    Interesting stats. Certainly shows that the Yankees are very good at getting fat off the bad teams, but their play drops considerably against the better teams. I think I’d rather have a split like Boston has – worse against lesser teams, better against +.500 teams but overall consistent.

  72. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:23 pm

    Also, don’t talk down to me and don’t lecture me. I don’t have to like every decision that the Yankees make………and I find it hard to believe anyway that they are torn between Nova and Hughes.

  73. ConcernedCitizen August 8th, 2011 at 1:25 pm

    Re: Jerseys… The jerseys I own don’t have numbers on the back of them. (Official) Jerseys are expensive, and I’d rather not wake up one day to discover that the jersey I dropped $100 on just became a clean-up rag.

  74. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 1:28 pm

    Betsy-
    I firmly believe the Yankees are torn between what to do w/Hughes and Nova.
    Nova has options, so he could easily be sent back down.
    Hughes does not have options. He either remains in the rotation or sent to the pen.
    If forced to make a decision, I would send Hughes to the pen and keep Nova among
    the starting 5.
    But I don’t think the Yankees need to make a choice anytime soon.
    The Yankees have invested a lot more time in Hughes vs Nova, so “demoting” Hughes is not the easiest decision. Hughes will get every opportunity & then some to state his case.

  75. Yank1 August 8th, 2011 at 1:29 pm

    “Do you understand Hughes was going to pitch extended innings last night?”

    If that were the case, then they should have just brought in Noesi.

    Hughes trying to “pace” himself in that spot is the height of stupidity. Tie game, on the road in the 10th inning, against the meat of their order where 1 run wins the game.

    The whole reason he was brought in was so that he could pump fastballs by them and take us to the next inning. It’s not like he is Freddy Garcia and can fool hitters with 5 different pitches. We still had 2 guys left in the pen, so it’s not like it was the 15th inning and we had no one else so he had to conserve himself to throw a lot of pitches. He is supposed to empty the tank in that spot.

  76. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    Warning Track, Hughes does have options

  77. Captain Clutch August 8th, 2011 at 1:30 pm

    I really don’t like Girardi’s excuses for not bringing up Montero. First it was that he can’t catch everyday because Martin is here and now that Posada is gone it’s he doesn’t know our pitchers. Give me a break Montero could catch Colon in his sleep. CC is also easy to catch. It’s obvious that Girardi is obsessed with Martin and his defense. But give me a break the guy hasn’t hit since April. Montero should of been up here 2 months ago to learn the pitching staff. If they were going to trade Cervelli to the Pirates then obviously they were going to have Montero catch.

  78. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
    Warning Track, Hughes does have options
    ****************************************
    I stand corrected. I must have read what clearly was a mistake=Hughes had no options.

  79. Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    The Yankees, though, must have been looking for length from Hughes as it was extra innings. If they’d wanted to bring Noesi again, they would have – he didn’t do well the night before.

  80. EA August 8th, 2011 at 1:32 pm

    Hughes isn’t good enough to where he can just “pitch” in that spot. He has to come out throwing bullets. Did he and Girardi really think if he were topping out at 93 with a get me over curveball that he would get out of the inning unscathed? He was facing a real lineup, not the White Sox……. His only chance in that spot was to get something extra on his FB…….

  81. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    ConcernedCitizen August 8th, 2011 at 1:25 pm
    Re: Jerseys… The jerseys I own don’t have numbers on the back of them. (Official) Jerseys are expensive, and I’d rather not wake up one day to discover that the jersey I dropped $100 on just became a clean-up rag.

    ———————

    I’m not suggesting everyone has to have a jersey – but if you’re going to have one there are rules that need to be followed lest you be branded as a front running, bandwagon hopping, j-hole.

  82. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:34 pm

    Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:32 pm
    The Yankees, though, must have been looking for length from Hughes as it was extra innings. If they’d wanted to bring Noesi again, they would have – he didn’t do well the night before.

    ————————-

    Noesi threw something like 40 pitches the day before – my guess is that he wasn’t available last night.

  83. UnKnown August 8th, 2011 at 1:35 pm

    I am really suprised and like the fact that Joe is using D Rob as the 8th inning guy and not Soriano. I was almost positive that Soriano would return to that role when he came back. With that said I really love how good Soriano looks as of late, but I still trust D Rob more.

    Finally, last night’s game was the most biased production that ESPN has put on with the love of the Sux I can ever remember. Showing the ELF hop around at 2nd all night long has to get old for even the most die-hard Sux fans. That along with numerous other things is just beyond ridiculous. Rather have watched the game on NESN, that’s how bad it was.

  84. Bret The Hitman August 8th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    Betsy,

    The cereal box analogy is not that funny, true.

    But it is bloody clever.

  85. DaveD August 8th, 2011 at 1:37 pm

    relievers should have no problem emptying the tank for 2 innings

    Anyway, doesn’t matter what Joe did, we were screwed once we didn’t score in the top of the 10th. They still had Bard and Aceves and we had Hughes/Ayala.

  86. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    Rather have watched the game on NESN, that’s how bad it was.

    ==========================

    I actually like the NESN dudes, though Remy has lost a little off his fastball since his illness. I’d take ‘em over Kay everyday of the week and twice on Sunday, but I’d probably take the Mets’ guys over all of ‘em.

    As for ESPN, last night’s effort was quite weak.

  87. Captain Clutch August 8th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Hughes should of came out last night throwing fastballs. Getting beat by a changeup to Ortiz and in his own words “a get me over curveball” is insane. Ortiz has very good numbers against Hughes and he had to stay with the hard stuff. I am so tired of Hughes getting beat by his awful secondary pitches. If he is in the rotation then let him replace AJ but definitely not Nova. Nova has been very good and there is no way they can take him out of the rotation for a guy that had one good start. If everyone stays healthy AJ isn’t pitching in the 1st round of the play offs anyway, let him be the odd one out.

  88. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:43 pm

    Mell August 8th, 2011 at 1:41 pm

    As for ESPN, last night’s effort was quite weak.
    —————-

    I’m pretty sure that the only reason Bobby V and Orel are in the booth is to make us miss Miller and Morgan. The pity is that Dan Schulman used to be good – now he’s playing down to the level of his boothmates.

  89. Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    I just can’t take a guy seriously when his name is Orel…

    I know, I know, I’m 5 years old. But I giggle every time they say it and can’t take anything he says seriously.

  90. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Captain Clutch August 8th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    Hughes should of came out last night throwing fastballs. Getting beat by a changeup to Ortiz and in his own words “a get me over curveball” is insane. Ortiz has very good numbers against Hughes and he had to stay with the hard stuff. I am so tired of Hughes getting beat by his awful secondary pitches. If he is in the rotation then let him replace AJ but definitely not Nova. Nova has been very good and there is no way they can take him out of the rotation for a guy that had one good start. If everyone stays healthy AJ isn’t pitching in the 1st round of the play offs anyway, let him be the odd one out.

    —————

    And if Hughes had gotten beat by a fastball someone would be on here saying that Hughes needs to be more than a 1 pitch pitcher.

    Hindsight is a lovely thing.

  91. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    I just can’t take a guy seriously when his name is Orel…

    I know, I know, I’m 5 years old. But I giggle every time they say it and can’t take anything he says seriously.

    —————–

    Imagine how tough it was going through JR High with that name?

  92. pat August 8th, 2011 at 1:47 pm

    NY Post says Alex could start rehab Friday. Trenton on the road in Harrisburg Friday. Harper and the Senators vs Alex and the Thunder anyone?

    LGY-

    Here’s the link you asked for

    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/l.....AdzuFvEJ/4

  93. UnKnown August 8th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    Chip, no doubt. Schulman had me actually thinking that he was going to do a great job on Sunday Nights, but he has not provided what I thought he would to the broadcasts.

    And this is true with the other Sunday Night games that have been played, not just when the Yankees are on.

    Shulman is just doing a really poor job and those other two guys are just clowns.

  94. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    I’m pretty sure that the only reason Bobby V and Orel are in the booth is to make us miss Miller and Morgan. The pity is that Dan Schulman used to be good – now he’s playing down to the level of his boothmates.

    =================================

    I thought Morgan killed Miller. Always thought Miller was terrific, especially on radio. Schulman’s decent. Bobby V’s kinda an asshat. Hope someone let’s him manage again soon to get him off the air.

  95. Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    # Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:45 pm

    Shame Spencer August 8th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
    I just can’t take a guy seriously when his name is Orel…

    I know, I know, I’m 5 years old. But I giggle every time they say it and can’t take anything he says seriously.

    —————–

    Imagine how tough it was going through JR High with that name?

    —————

    I went to school with a Tiffany Wang. When they did attendance out loud, things could get real ugly.

  96. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 1:49 pm

    Pat

    Thanks.

  97. Captain Clutch August 8th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    Those guys were so bad last night that I would of actually enjoyed listening to Kay over them and I never ever want to hear Kay. It was brutal last night.

  98. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes August 8th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    We shouldn’t have lost that game last night. Buzzkill…thought we had 2 of 3 in Boston and blew it in the 9th. Terrible.

    This is exactly what I anticipate seeing when we face quality pitching in October. Our offense was shut down completely in all three games.

    Just another example of why having a strong offense in the postseason means nothing if you don’t have quality starting pitchers.

  99. mick August 8th, 2011 at 1:51 pm

    phil was the only option left, lucky we had him or it wouldve been swisher.
    send phil down?
    not on your life—the 6 man gives him and nova the chance to clear aj out of the postseason

  100. Captain Clutch August 8th, 2011 at 1:53 pm

    And if Hughes had gotten beat by a fastball someone would be on here saying that Hughes needs to be more than a 1 pitch pitcher.
    —————

    When he is throwing well he has a good fastball and a couple of average off speed pitches. Coming out of the bullpen where he only needs 3 outs you want him to get beat on an average pitch that hangs over the plate? I doubt it.

  101. mick August 8th, 2011 at 1:54 pm

    last night means nothing.
    talk to me in october
    if boston makes it thru to us
    we are the better team, its not complete as of now
    boston is at its peak, unless they get another starter or rp

  102. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 1:58 pm

    Captain Clutch August 8th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
    Hughes should of came out last night throwing fastballs. Getting beat by a changeup to Ortiz and in his own words “a get me over curveball” is insane. Ortiz has very good numbers against Hughes and he had to stay with the hard stuff. I am so tired of Hughes getting beat by his awful secondary pitches. If he is in the rotation then let him replace AJ but definitely not Nova. Nova has been very good and there is no way they can take him out of the rotation for a guy that had one good start. If everyone stays healthy AJ isn’t pitching in the 1st round of the play offs anyway, let him be the odd one out.
    *******************************************************
    Hughes threw a fastball down and it to Ortiz, that was not a change-up he ripped
    for a double.

  103. Run it Out August 8th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    “Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    Also, don’t talk down to me and don’t lecture me. I don’t have to like every decision that the Yankees make………and I find it hard to believe anyway that they are torn between Nova and Hughes.”

    Add me to your list of people who will talk down to you. Your comments on this board are idiotic at best. You shuffle players around like this is fantasy baseball and then get all worked up because someone takes issue with you. The Yankees are paid a lot of money to manage their business and their players. You make comments about players performances without any in depth reasoning or knowledge. You get a player under your craw and you refuse to root for the player because his performance may make your opinion look bad. Hughes throws well in Chicago and “Know – it All Betsy” is no where to be found on the board. There you go Betsy. Feel talked down to?

  104. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    From pat’s link:

    It was before Game 7 of the 2004 American League Championship Series, a game that we would lose. The series was tied 3-3 at that point, and it was particularly disheartening since we had won the first three games. Unknown to us, Boston’s comeback was not to be stopped.

    At any rate, at the end of the meeting it was traditional for Joe Torre to ask Jorge Posada what we were going to do. He would reply, “Grind it!” This time — I guess to make Hideki Matsui feel more part of the team — Torre turned to him at the end of the meeting.

    “What are we going to do?”

    Hideki paused for just a second before replying.

    “Kick ass. Pop champagne. And get some ho’s.”

  105. mick August 8th, 2011 at 2:04 pm

    Add me to your list of people who will talk down to you. Your comments on this board are idiotic at best. You shuffle players around like this is fantasy baseball and then get all worked up because someone takes issue with you. The Yankees are paid a lot of money to manage their business and their players. You make comments about players performances without any in depth reasoning or knowledge. You get a player under your craw and you refuse to root for the player because his performance may make your opinion look bad. Hughes throws well in Chicago and “Know – it All Betsy” is no where to be found on the board. There you go Betsy. Feel talked down to?
    =============================================
    Run It Out-

    Bravo! I am getting too old and tired for her shenanigans and appoint you the heir to the mantle I so much want to relinquish.
    More well spoken than anything I’ve ever written, succinct and to the point.

  106. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    ID,

    Posey is 2 years older as well and Montero has been as productive a minor league hitter as he was…..that wasn’t the point though…..the point was that no player has ever performed in the major leagues before they actually played in the major leagues. The Yankees aren’t in a pennant race…..they are going to the playoffs …..very little risk to seeing if Montero can make the team better.

  107. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:05 pm

    Captain Clutch August 8th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
    Those guys were so bad last night that I would of actually enjoyed listening to Kay over them and I never ever want to hear Kay. It was brutal last night.

    ——————

    How bad was it? I turned to my wife and said, “I’m going into the other room to listen to the game on the radio”

    That’s right, I willingly turned on Sterling and Waldman just because I was so tired of ESPN’s chuckleheads…That’s baseball Suzyn.

  108. Barry August 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    The comparable between Jackson (Austin) and Montero is relative to the uproar when he was traded for Granderson. The tone reminds me of the Montero howling. That’s all.

  109. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    The current ESPN Sunday Night line-up is > Jon Miller & Joe Morgan.
    Those two dorks should have been fired about 10 years ago.

  110. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm

    Nobody is asking Montero to be Buster Posey anyway…..

  111. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:08 pm

    NESN doesn’t talk about the Red Sox.as much as ESPN does. Remy is good….

  112. cs in la August 8th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Why didn’t Mo come back in? He only threw 9 pitches in the last inning with an off day today.

    I wonder. And I wonder if Girardi’s “settle for the WC” mentality is rearing its ugly head again. It drove us all insane last year.

  113. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
    Nobody is asking Montero to be Buster Posey anyway…..

    ————

    Nope, just Jorge Posada in his prime ;-)

  114. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:08 pm
    NESN doesn’t talk about the Red Sox.as much as ESPN does. Remy is good….

    ————-

    It was funny after the Nunez HR where they were ripping Fenway for the HR because it interfered with their ability to kneel at the altar of Beckett.

  115. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    “Nope, just Jorge Posada in his prime”

    Not even that…..just want to find out if he’s better than what they have.

  116. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    pat,

    Thanks again for the link. Some really interesting stuff in there.

    The tidbit about Torre, if true, is pretty disappointing.

  117. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Chip,

    The broadcast last night was an absolute joke…..

  118. Run it Out August 8th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    cs in la

    That is a question that people should be asking. Mo was off Saturday and with an off day today, you would think Girardi would go one more inning with Mo before going to a guy who hadn’t thrown out of the pen since October of last year.

  119. DaveD August 8th, 2011 at 2:15 pm

    “And if Hughes had gotten beat by a fastball someone would be on here saying that Hughes needs to be more than a 1 pitch pitcher.”

    When he was a dominant reliever in 09, he did throw 1 pitch. He had his cutter, but it’s not like he had great secondary offerings than either. He dominated based off his FB and the fact that he could dial it up a couple MPH.

    When he has no margin for error, he can’t be throwing his mediocre secondary stuff. He has to live and die with his best stuff.

  120. Yank 97 August 8th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    AnthonyMcCarron Yanks rotation for the Angels’ series: Burnett, Nova, Colon. CC figures to start Friday against Tampa, so he’ll get an extra day of rest.

  121. pat August 8th, 2011 at 2:16 pm

    LGY

    You’re welcome. Stuff on the players was off field but the Torre blurb was in game.

  122. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    This batboy has got to be more reliable than anonymous sources to Star Magazine. Alex got killed by the media and some fans for gambling on his free time.

    I wonder if anyone will have a problem with the Yankee manager gambling during baseball games.

  123. Run it Out August 8th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    By the way, Mo’s numbers against Ortiz are 130 points better than Hughes. Hughes and Mo’s numbers against Youk are pretty close with a slight edge to Hughes.

  124. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    So where does that leave Hughes?

  125. West Coast Yankee Fan August 8th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Run it Out August 8th, 2011 at 2:00 pm

    “Betsy August 8th, 2011 at 1:23 pm
    Also, don’t talk down to me and don’t lecture me. I don’t have to like every decision that the Yankees make………and I find it hard to believe anyway that they are torn between Nova and Hughes.”

    Add me to your list of people who will talk down to you. Your comments on this board are idiotic at best. You shuffle players around like this is fantasy baseball and then get all worked up because someone takes issue with you. The Yankees are paid a lot of money to manage their business and their players. You make comments about players performances without any in depth reasoning or knowledge. You get a player under your craw and you refuse to root for the player because his performance may make your opinion look bad. Hughes throws well in Chicago and “Know – it All Betsy” is no where to be found on the board. There you go Betsy. Feel talked down to?

    **********************

    Thanks for articulating what so many think.

  126. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:18 pm

    Hey at least Torre wasn’t asleep like he was accused of during games.

  127. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    pat

    The Jeter stuff is funny. He definitely seems to have a sarcastic sense of humor.

  128. ConcernedCitizen August 8th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    I’m not suggesting everyone has to have a jersey – but if you’re going to have one there are rules that need to be followed lest you be branded as a front running, bandwagon hopping, j-hole.

    ———————

    … k, not really sure if/why that was warranted. I was just saying that the jerseys I bought don’t have numbers on them to avoid them from becoming outdated. It was unrelated to the bandwagon argument. Sheesh…

  129. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:21 pm

    The only jersey I have is a Derek Jeter jersey and I keep it locked securely away to keep it safe from sabermetricians.

  130. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    ConcernedCitizen August 8th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    Chip August 8th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    I’m not suggesting everyone has to have a jersey – but if you’re going to have one there are rules that need to be followed lest you be branded as a front running, bandwagon hopping, j-hole.

    ———————

    … k, not really sure if/why that was warranted. I was just saying that the jerseys I bought don’t have numbers on them to avoid them from becoming outdated. It was unrelated to the bandwagon argument. Sheesh…

    ———-

    Sorry I was being sarcastic – it came through as douchey over text.

  131. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    Joelsherman1 2 hours Column nyp.st/p4rOQg Posada has been reduced to a #Yankees hood ornament, saved from release only by his iconic status

    Sugar coating has never been one of Sherman’s strengths…..

  132. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:23 pm

    LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:17 pm
    This batboy has got to be more reliable than anonymous sources to Star Magazine. Alex got killed by the media and some fans for gambling on his free time.

    I wonder if anyone will have a problem with the Yankee manager gambling during baseball games.

    ——————

    Well we knew Torre wasn’t managing during games – it was either gambling, napping, rehearsing his Bigelow Tea ads or mining for nuggets in his nose.

  133. mick August 8th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    The only jersey I have is a Derek Jeter jersey and I keep it locked securely away to keep it safe from sabermetricians.
    =================
    Now that’s a good one, Blake.

  134. mick August 8th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    Well we knew Torre wasn’t managing during games – it was either gambling, napping, rehearsing his Bigelow Tea ads or mining for nuggets in his nose.
    =================
    He also loved the horses…and Giuliani.

  135. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:25 pm

    The only jersey I have is a Derek Jeter jersey and I keep it locked securely away to keep it safe from sabermetricians.

    ——————-

    :D

    It pains me to admit that my gf wears a Derek Jeter shirt every time we go to a game.

  136. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    “It pains me to admit that my gf wears a Derek Jeter shirt every time we go to a game.”

    And you’re still together :)

  137. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:29 pm

    blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Joelsherman1 2 hours Column nyp.st/p4rOQg Posada has been reduced to a #Yankees hood ornament, saved from release only by his iconic status

    Sugar coating has never been one of Sherman’s strengths…..

    —————-

    ouch.

  138. mick August 8th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    what put girardi over the top with posad?
    cashman?
    now is time for a definite move.
    unless they are dead set against bringing him up for sept callups what is topping the accension of jesus?
    afraid of putting him under the scrutiny and pressure of the pennant race.
    when will that change.
    sept is more of a pressure cooker than aug.
    besides, what pressure is there? we are in either 1st or the WC.
    trade deadline is over, no pressure there.
    please someone explain…

  139. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:25 pm
    The only jersey I have is a Derek Jeter jersey and I keep it locked securely away to keep it safe from sabermetricians.

    ——————-

    It pains me to admit that my gf wears a Derek Jeter shirt every time we go to a game.

    —————

    Wonder what happens if she gets a CJ Wilson one next year.

  140. NYYROC August 8th, 2011 at 2:30 pm

    Interesting rotation for the week. Can’t figure out how PH goes from getting a Tuesday start, coming off what was his best start of the year, maybe finally getting on a roll to throwing 13 pitches and now won’t get a start until Sat at the earliest. He’ll will throw 13 picthes over an 11 day span. Must’ve kicked Joe’s dog or something.

  141. mick August 8th, 2011 at 2:31 pm

    what is stopping the accension of jesus?

  142. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    There was a Sox fan next to me at the game Saturday who was just going on a major tirade about Jeter. Not only how awful he is now, but how he’s always been awful. How his career is a joke and on and on and on…my wife stopped me from turning to him and saying “well he’s no Nomar…”

  143. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    It pains me to admit that my gf wears a Derek Jeter shirt every time we go to a game.
    =======================================

    Just as long as she doesn’t make you wear it after the game (if you know what I mean). 8)

  144. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    Wonder what happens if she gets a CJ Wilson one next year.

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    Deal breaker

  145. blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm

    So when does Hughes pitch now?

  146. LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    I’d rather date a Red Sox fan than a CJ Wilson fan.

  147. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:37 pm

    LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    pat

    The Jeter stuff is funny. He definitely seems to have a sarcastic sense of humor.

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    I caught part of the Jeter thing on HBO and you can absolutely see that sense of humor in that as well. At one point they show him returning to join the club in Cleveland and Eduardo Nunez is talking to him for about five minutes at which point Jeter looks up and says “can someone get me a translator over here” and the two of them bust up laughing.

  148. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
    I’d rather date a Red Sox fan than a CJ Wilson fan.

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    I married a Red Sox fan – she had/has a huge crush on Jason Varitek

  149. Warning Track Power August 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
    LGY August 8th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
    pat

    The Jeter stuff is funny. He definitely seems to have a sarcastic sense of humor.

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    I caught part of the Jeter thing on HBO and you can absolutely see that sense of humor in that as well. At one point they show him returning to join the club in Cleveland and Eduardo Nunez is talking to him for about five minutes at which point Jeter looks up and says “can someone get me a translator over here” and the two of them bust up laughing.
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    Chip-That was a very funny moment.

  150. Mell August 8th, 2011 at 2:38 pm

    So when does Hughes pitch now?

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    Saturday or Sunday?

  151. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:39 pm

    blake August 8th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
    So when does Hughes pitch now?

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    my guess: After Colon, before CC.

  152. Triple Short of a Cycle August 8th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Would you rather root for the Mets in the World Series or the Red Sox?

  153. ConcernedCitizen August 8th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Sorry I was being sarcastic – it came through as douchey over text.

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    No worries, it happens.

  154. Chip August 8th, 2011 at 2:43 pm

    I just read the post article about the tell-all…I hope this moron doesn’t see a dime from the book.

    Look, I don’t need to think that all players are saints or anything, but we’re getting to the point where before you hire a batboy or trainer you need to get a binding non-disclosure agreement to make sure that what is seen and heard in the clubhouse or around the team stays there.

  155. DocTodd August 8th, 2011 at 2:45 pm

    Mets…easily…

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