Hughes to start Saturday
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 09, 2011 
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Not much more to add at this point. Joe Girardi just announced that Phil Hughes will start Saturday.
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Too long a wait. This isn’t a good year for him. I hope he gets a chance next year. I wonder if he’ll have innings problems next year. Someone here said something about 25 last time I asked. But wasn’t sure what he/she meant.
For those who think Hughes is being jerked around, I have no argument with you. Can he start? Hell, I don’t know if he can (for us) or not, but it doesn’t look like we will ever know at this rate.
Because Colon and Garcia will be with the Yankees forever.
Garcia throws 5 innings of 1 run ball against the same RedSux lineup that shelled CC and he gets skipped. Makes perfect sense, right ?
And if he has a bad start, he already has a built-in excuse.
They need to pick a guy and let him start every 5 days. No idea how they evaluate guys when they are on irregular schedules like this.
Yankees just seem to not want to make the tough decision of Hughes vs. Nova, or the seemingly easier decision (but obviously not because of his contract) to bench Burnett.
Skipping Garcia this time, probably Colon the next time around after his next start on sunday.
Not ideal in the least….
It makes sense from the standpoint of carrying 6 SP now and giving Freddy a blow.
AndrewMarchand Andrew Marchand
CC start Fri. Bart on Sunday.
AndrewMarchand Andrew Marchand
Here it is in order: Burnett, Nova, Bart, CC, Phil, Freddy
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Am i missing something or is Merchand a bit confused?
One he has CC friday and Bart on Sunday, Phil Saturday and in the other, Bart right before CC. Which is it?
BX33, agreed. You always hear that starting pitchers are creatures of habit and like to get into a routine. It doesn’t seem like any (except maybe CC) of these guys knows when they’ll pitch. Maybe instead of the guess the lineup there could be a guess this week’s rotation game.
Making a decision on Hughes and or Nova will be made by the pitchers themselves based on their performance in the next couple of starts each gets. This will give Colon and Garcia a break if need be.
This whole 6 man rotation thing is just wacky…
Way too confusing. Sit Burnett down, eat the cash and move on.
I think AJ looks tired…..skip him his next 5 starts.
Ledger_Yankees Marc Carig
AJ: Changed hair. Blonde. Yikes. #nyy
7 minutes ago
What a loose cannon.
burnett will be unidentifiable to all hitters from now on. He’s blonde headed.
Hopefully the blonde hair will either improve his command or make him throw 96 again.
I aways knew AJ was a dumb blonde in disguise.
Maybe he’ll add a golden thong too.
May as well go with the complete package.
‘I think AJ looks tired…..skip him his next 5 starts’.
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The next best thing to eating his contract and saying see ya………….LOL !
A.J.
If changing your hair color makes a difference, then by all means knock yourself out.
pat,
Good afternoon!
I don’t feel Phil is being jerked around. Maybe getting punished for showing up to camp out of shape, but not jerked around.
Phil is the biggest unknown, and the least ready of the starters. He probably won’t get regular work for the rest of the season. I’m okay with that because he’s got a tender wing right now.
I really want…no, I really need baseball today. C’mon rain gods, take a break.
AJ can pitch in his golden thong with all of his tattoos ablaze and his new hair color, style, doo or whatever you want to call it and it will make no difference.
Same old crappy .500 pitcher who makes $ 16.5 million and gives Yankee Fans fits.
Hughes has mucho to prove. Me hopes he can climb the wall of success otherwise the express to the bullpen and eventually the Orioles.
Garcia not being skipped, pitching day after Hughes
Melkmanisinhotlanta August 9th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Hughes has mucho to prove. Me hopes he can climb the wall of success otherwise the express to the bullpen and eventually the Orioles.
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Yeah, the guy can’t even pitch well enough to get 18 wins in a season!
I’ll be in favor of supporting how Girardi rotates who he skips in rotation as long as it works out that AJ is skipped for the play-offs.
DAMN THE RAIN!!!
so much bad weather this season, gettin ridiculous
There isn’t a hair color or tattoo in the world that can change Burnett. He is what he is, an overpaid thrower and not a pitcher. He wouldn’t even do well at a carnival trying to knock down pins to get a teddy bear for a prize.
just trying to remember..why isn’t Aceves a Yankee
“He wouldn’t even do well at a carnival trying to knock down pins to get a teddy bear for a prize.”
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AJ: “Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the teddy…I gave it my best, but it wasn’t good enough. I’m going to put this behind me a try the sledge hammer bell ringing thingy next.”
ARod runs the bases today, another step forward.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....-rodriguez
http://www.intellicast.com/Local/WxMapFull.aspx
mass of rain clearing the area, but showers behind it
BTW–aside from his salary, AJ has been fine this year if you evaluate him as a #5 starter–which is what he has become. Gives us 5-7 innings each time out and usually keeps team in the game.
But now that the kids are coming up, it will be time to find another home for him this off-season.
Remember, any player can be traded…it just depends on what you give up and get back. We may have to eat some salary…
108 stitches August 9th, 2011 at 5:05 pm
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Well put.
Aj would hit the Carney in charge of the game in the foot with a curveball.
blake, don’t you agree that AJ may just be too tired to finish his career? How about a retirement announcement?
Also from Yahoo:
Also, left-hander Pedro Feliciano(notes), who hasn’t pitched this season because of a tear in his left shoulder, threw 42 pitches off a mound in a cage and is scheduled for batting practice on Friday.
Backup infielder Ramiro Pena(notes), who had an appendectomy on July 18, has resumed swinging a bat.
Reliever Damaso Marte(notes), coming back from left shoulder surgery, had a 32-pitch mound session. Converted reliever Mark Prior, out because of a groin strain and back soreness, pitched in a rookie-level Gulf Coast League game.
Bojo,
I agree…..if you ignore AJs contract and consider him a #4 or 5 then he’s been fine this year…..but my issue is that the time is coming (if its not already here) when he’s goof to be clogging a rotation spot for kids that are just as good as him but significantly younger. The Yankees may have a hard decision to make regarding him this winter.
Who will do the pie-ing if AJ is gone? You guys have all gone insane.
Blake-
“Yankees may have a hard decision to make regarding him this winter.”
What do you think they’ll do ?
blake August 9th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Decision is pretty easy, eat the contract and release him the Yankees have the financial resources to absorb thing like this. The Yankees ate Igawa’a contract which is done at the end of this year. Next up………….AJ.
blake August 9th, 2011 at 5:19 pm
Decision is pretty easy, eat the contract and release him the Yankees have the financial resources to absorb thing like this. The Yankees ate Igawa’a contract which is done at the end of this year. Next up………….AJ.
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They didn’t release Igawa. They won’t release AJ. He’s not pitching nearly bad enough to be released and he’s shown the ability to pitch well.
That said, I would be surprised if they don’t at least try to move him.
Igawa got $4mil/year, AJ is much different.
Blake-
I recommend the Yankees purchase a good wood chipper.
MTU,
I don’t know…..if they look at things and determine he’s not one of their 5 best starters this winter then I wouldn’t be surprised if they ate some money and tried to move him this winter
Blake-
They’d have to eat a lot of money.
I believe the total cost of Igawa was around $ 45 mil including the posting fee. Burnett is in the way of all the young pitching talent in the Minors. Another two years of him will further delay the promotion of the same.
The thing you have to remember about AJ is that pitchers who feel completely useless to this team and look like mistakes generally get a chance to come back and redeem themselves when the plan falls apart.
Look at Pavano for evidence. He came back a few times and pitched some games for us when this team was desperate. AJ is nowhere near as bad a signing as Pavano was.
The Yankees don’t waive their big time pitching mistakes like the Red Sox do. The Yankees rarely pay a guy to go play for another team unless it’s pocket change or a guy on a 1 year deal they release.
That said, I wouldn’t trust him in the post season right now but I also know that he may redeem himself with this fanbase before the book is closed on him. We’ve seen it happen here before.
You don’t discard a guy who can give you 200 innings and you owe this much money to unless he is killing the clubhouse to the point it affects wins and losses.
Perhaps if they ate a ‘whole lot’ of money they can find a sucker to take him and give up a couple of prospects. Seems like a lot of time and effort will need to be put in the get rid of him.
They can move him…a lot of NL teams with big parks could use him…Pittsburgh, Padres, Dodgers, Mets, etc. How much Yankees get back depends on how much of his salary is eaten.
But with CC, Hughes, Nova, Noesi, Joba (I hope), Colon, Garcai, and the kids coming up, the most important thing is to move him and let one of the kids get a start on their Yankee career.
At the end of the day, the signing worked out well. He helped win a title, he gave Cashman time to develop the kids, and he’ll probably get us a prospect back.
I think it was $46mil with $26mil posting fee. Even if you count it as $9mil/year, AJ is still nearly double that yearly. I don’t think they will eat that. It’s possible they would trade him if they didn’t have to eat too much of the salary. When is the last time the Yankees ate a big part of a salary in a trade though? I would guess worst case they use him as the #5 starter. He does that.
AJ goes blonde. That’s a good fix for his pitching woes. Way to go, AJ.
Nobody can fix this guy. They blamed Posada, then it was Eilands fault. So now we have Martin and Rothchild. Time to blame them I guess. It is never AJ’s fault.
You don’t discard a guy who can give you 200 innings and you owe this much money to unless he is killing the clubhouse to the point it affects wins and losses.
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I agree. Not every member of the rotation is an ace. Sometimes you need a guy you can at worst just give you innings. Young pitchers can’t do that, and all 1,458 innings need pitched.
Eat 1 year on him, 12-16 mil and then trade him to a team that wants him for 2 years 8 mil
G. Love August 9th, 2011 at 5:40 pm
A picture perfect postcard from the post season……Posada and Burnett sitting next to each other spitting seeds in street clothes.
I almost wish AJ burnett had been as advertised, an electric talent that will probably spend 2 of his years on the DL and miss time in other seasons while pitching well when healthy. Instead he has been a below average innings eater. Which is interesting but not necessary for 16 mil.
The Yankees will likely keep him around as the ’5th’ starter by role but not by name, he will just pitch his 200 innings and likely not get a start in the playoffs.
Yes just what we need a 16 million dollar a year #5 starter.
Randy was right.
We should have gotten Livan.
Jerkface August 9th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Eat 1 year on him, 12-16 mil and then trade him to a team that wants him for 2 years 8 mil
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Good suggestion.
AJ would be fine here as a #5 IF the Yankees didn’t have so many prospects that project to #3 or better. Start with CC and either Colon and/or Garcia, add Hughes and Nova, and then pick from Joba, Noesi, Betances, Banuelos, Warren, and you simply don’t want to waste a rotation spot on AJ anymore.
RMS August 9th, 2011 at 5:44 pm
AJ goes blonde. That’s a good fix for his pitching woes. Way to go, AJ.
Nobody can fix this guy. They blamed Posada, then it was Eilands fault. So now we have Martin and Rothchild. Time to blame them I guess. It is never AJ’s fault.
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Who the heck is they? I don’t remember anyone from the organization blaming Posada or Eiland. The blame game if I remember correctly has been reserved for the media and the people who post in this blog.
It appears that it has quickly been forgotten that AJ couldn’t even hang on for a ‘W’ with a 13 – 1 lead in his last start.
MTU,
Yes they’d probably have to eat a full.year on his deal……but that saves 13 million bucks and opens his spot up for someone with upside.
MTU August 9th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
‘Yes just what we need a 16 million dollar a year #5 starter’.
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You got that right ! Almost as silly as bringing up Joba again to be a SP.
I’m glad he’s starting because if he’s not going to start on a regular basis, he should be in AAA where he can get his innings in.
Remember when this guy “learned how to pitch” from Halladay and would finally harness his stuff? Ahh… the fluff pieces. I miss them.
Blake-
It’s not my money. I’m all for it.
Doubt it happens.
I don’t think AJ has been nearly bad enough to even consider removing him from the rotation. He’s mediocre to be sure, but that doesn’t warrant removal – especially since it’s hardly a lock that his potential replacement would be better.
Burnett pitches 200 highly mediocre innings for $16 million. Last year’s version of Freddy Garcia who had a 4.60 ERA could do that for the veterans minimum.
In today’s day and age where there are like 60 pitchers with an ERA under 4… pitching to a mid-high 4 ERA makes you below average.
I hope to see 96 or 97 mph again even if it is only for 5 innings max. 93mph max with bad command will not be enough in this league.
Growing up I never understood what a “belly-itcher” was but AJ changed all that.
I sure hope Dr. Jekyll shows up tonight instead of Mr. Hyde.
blake August 9th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
MTU,
Yes they’d probably have to eat a full.year on his deal……but that saves 13 million bucks and opens his spot up for someone with upside.
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Can’t see that happening Blake as much as we would like it to happen. It’s a lot of $$$ to eat even for the Yankees. The Steinbrenners would never approve it now or in 2012. Only some deep pocketed owner in 2013 might consider taking half of his remaining $16.5M. Hopefully by then Burnett will be stopping the progress of Banuelos, Betances, Stoneburner or others on a fast track and see it necessary to dump him for the remainder of his contract.
Stick him in the back end of the bullpen until he demands a trade.
I think Jorge will teach a lot to the Steinbrenner’s about the value of eating a big slary so you can clear a roster spot. Jorge got one year too long, and his performance has led to his benching…it means Yankees are playing with a 24 man roster. That experience may change their minds for how they treat AJ
The Yankees didn’t eat money on Giambi, Igawa, Pavano, etc. You think they are going to eat money on AJ while he still can throw 180-200 innings as their 5th starter?
They won’t. They just don’t do it. You rarely see them waive a guy with a long term deal and big money on it.
They’ll trade a bad contract for a bad contract. They may trade him and offer to pick up some dollars.
They won’t release him and let him collect all their money while he pitches for another team.
“I hope to see 96 or 97 mph again even if it is only for 5 innings max.”
You’ll have to teleport yourself back to 2007 if you’re looking for that AJ. His FB velocity has been on a steady decline:
http://www.fangraphs.com/pitch.....position=P
G. Love August 9th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
“They may trade him and offer to pick up some dollars.”
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Agreed. When I suggest moving him, I am not suggesting releasing him. They definitely will need to trade him and eat some salary…
“I hope to see 96 or 97 mph again”
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Get a spot on I95 and watch Kei Igawa drive to work.
Does Burnett get credit for the 0-2 and one no decision where he allowed 1 run in at least 7 innings? Or the blame? he’s had 3 bad games and three not good games. In games of 4 or more runs allowed, his record is 2-5 and 1 no decision. He’s allowed 4 games of 5 runs or more and one of those games was 5 runs with 3 unearned.
Stash him away in the bullpen like the Red Sox did to Wakefield and bring him out if we need an extra starter at some point during the season.
The Giants moved Zito to the pen, Brewers did it to Suppan, Mets did it to Oliver Perez last year, etc.
So there is precedent to moving a big money starter to the pen with multiple years left on their deal.
108,
Maybe not…..but they did eat Igawa’s entire contract. I think you have to look at it not as eating salary…..but as saving money. If you can insert someone making the league minimum into his spot then whatever money the aquiring team picks up you save. If they ate 20 million bucks on him then they still save 13 million that they coukd use elsewhere.
Let’s say they bring back Garcia…..they’d have Sabathia, Hughes, Nova, and Garcia……then Betances, Noesi, Warren, Phelps + outside options to fill AJs spot. I think one of those guys coukd perform as good or.better than AJ and they’d actually have a chance to get better. JMO
Why waste a 200 inning starter in the bulpen if you can get something back for him in a trade?
He is not without value…I just think he is now past his usefullness in terms of the bridge he provided to the next generation of pitchers. He bought Cashman time, and now he can be replaced.