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Game 115: Yankees vs. Angels

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Yankees lineup
1. Brett Gardner LF
2. Derek Jeter SS
3. Curtis Granderson CF
4. Mark Teixeira 1B
5. Robinson Cano 2B
6. Nick Swisher RF
7. Eric Chavez DH
8. Russell Martin C
9. Eduardo Nunez 3B
Ivan Nova RHP

Angels lineup
1. Erick Aybar SS
2. Howie Kendrick 2B
3. Bobby Abreu DH
4. Torii Hunter RF
5. Mark Trumbo 1B
6. Vernon Wells LF
7. Alberto Callaspo 3B
8. Peter Bourjos CF
9. Jeff Mathis C
Garrett Richards RHP

Time/TV/: 7:08/YES
Weather: Partly cloudy, 81
Umpires: Mike Muchlinski HP, Mike Winters 1B, Mike Everitt 2B, Chris Guccione 3B
New guy: The Angels will have one of their top prospects making his major-league debut in Richards. He was 12-2 with a 3.06 ERA at Double-A Arkansas.
More Joe Girardi on Nova and the upcoming cutting of the six-man rotation: “He has been one of our five best guys. If you look at his body of work the last three months, he’s been really, really good for us. Set everything else aside, our job is to win. We have to make a decision pretty quickly here, what is best for our rotation and what is best for the 12 pitchers you’re going to carry. … Could your mind change in the next week? Sure it can. … But it’s something that we’ll sit down and evaluate over the next four or five days. How do we make our 12-man pitching staff the best?”

Update, 7:13: Nova gives up a walk and a single but escapes unscathed in the first.

Update, 7:24: Welcome to the big leagues, Garrett Richards. Walk, walk, wild pitch, three-run homer by Curtis Granderson. That’s his 30th, tying his career high. This one hit the top of the fence and bounded over.

Update, 7:38: Martin shows off his arm again, catching Bourjos trying to steal, ending a scoreless, one-hit second for Nova.

Update, 7:45: Richards settles down, 1-2-3 second, helped by a nifty running grab in left-center by Aybar going back. Bet Richards was rather nervous in the first.

Update, 7:53: 1-2-3 third for Nova.

Update, 8:01: Eight in a row set down by Richards. 3-0, heading for the fourth.

Update, 8:08: Nova is dominating. The Angels couldn’t get the ball out of the infield in a 1-2-3 fourth.

Update, 8:12: Leadoff triple by Cano and RBI single for Swisher, 4-0.

Update, 8:14: Girardi’s decision to bench Jorge Posada paid off for him again. Chavez RBI double, 5-0.

Update, 8:29: Nova finally cracks. Bourjos just makes the front row in left, solo homer with two outs in the fifth.

Update, 8:37: Two homers for Granderson, now with a career-high 31. It’s 6-1.

Update, 8:46: 1-2-3 sixth for Nova, one run and three hits allowed so far. He’s only at 79 pitches. Not that the Angels are an offensive machine, but want to take him out of the rotation? Probably not. Richards is done. Joel Pineiro is making his first relief outing in three years.

Update, 8:55: 7-1, Martin RBI single.

Update, 9:06: Shaky opening to the seventh for Nova, walk, single, single, and it’s 7-2. Rafael Soriano is getting loose.

Update, 9:09: A walk, now bases loaded, no outs. Girardi is coming out to get Nova. Soriano is coming in. Nova gets a loud ovation.

Update, 9:13: Good job by Soriano, getting a double-play grounder out of Bourjos. The run scores, 7-3. Two outs, runner on third.

Update, 9:14: Fly to left. This is finally the Soriano the Yankees paid all that money for.

Update, 9:25: Two-run shot for Cano, No. 19.

Update, 9:27: Soriano is staying on to start the eighth. Actually, he’s not. Girardi comes out to get him before he can throw a pitch. Ayala is coming on.

Update, 9:36: One-hit inning for Ayala.

Update, 9:50: Yankees win, 9-3.

 
 

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455 Responses to “Game 115: Yankees vs. Angels”

  1. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:12 pm

    I am reposting this so no one misses what an idiot Vineyard Yankees is
    ~~~~~

    Irreverent Discourse June 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm

    Irreverent Discourse August 31st, 2010 at 4:54 pm

    Irreverent Discourse January 28th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm

    With pleasure, lets see we have TheOnion.com, didn’t know ID made that, I like that site. A fangraphs article, ok that website is good for stats but their articles kind of suck but whatever. An MLB.com FA list? Uh ok, didn’t know ID worked for MLB, cool. And finally a yankee charity event.

    So what is your end game here? I notice his ‘blog’ is not listed anywhere. And you still look like a drooling moron.

  2. Salliedogs7 August 10th, 2011 at 7:13 pm

    Go Nova. Go Yanks.

  3. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 7:16 pm

    Nice first inning for Nova. Got squeezed a bit with Abreu. A win tonight would erase my distaste ofr the last couple games.

  4. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:17 pm

    Nova gets a little squeezed and Richards gets outside and way high called a strike on B Gard,cool

  5. m August 10th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Let’s see how good the rookie is at holding runners.

  6. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    I don’t trust any of these Pedro Gomez ‘scoops’. :neutral:

  7. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Be very aggressive with this kid pitcher. Make him work!

  8. Jacob Ruppert August 10th, 2011 at 7:20 pm

    Thank goodness for Bonds that Pedro Gomez is not still stalking him.

  9. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 7:22 pm

    Nice job Jeter! Get some runs early please!!

  10. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    man Gardy rocks he is such a good player

  11. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Gardner’s base running is in a groove the past 2 months

  12. Salliedogs7 August 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Grandy man can!

  13. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Welcome to ~~the big leagues~~

  14. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    lol Grandy is loving these first innings…awesomeness :)

  15. Germfree Adolescents August 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    Boom goes the dynamite

  16. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 7:24 pm

    I love you Curtis Granderson. Bounced off the top of the padding. Awesome!!!

  17. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    Now he’s probably thinking about how much the cap ride back to the airport is going to cost him. :cry:

  18. MG August 10th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    you could just feel that coming, the kid had to come in with a fastball and Grandy murders those…

  19. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 7:25 pm

    This new pitcher won’t be long for this game.

    Our winning streak just began… I say 10 game streak :D

  20. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Yup, that was the dynamite Scocia talked about.. LMAO!

  21. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    Grandy has atoned

  22. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:26 pm

    http://imgur.com/PBlJL = A grandymancan

  23. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Cano makes the hits look smooth and easy

  24. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Nice fluid swing by Cano. He could be mvp if he just focused a little more.

  25. seconds August 10th, 2011 at 7:27 pm

    Nice to get back to how we had been winning, scoring early, then good pitching till 6th or 7th, and bullpen to finish.

  26. Vineyard Yankee August 10th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    Jerk:

    You opened your mouth and I provided it, I don’t have an end game. The ‘blog’ link was on his name right before he put up the Golf Tourney announcement. The different sites under his name just change on their own on their own. Idiot.

    Convenient that he swapped it out when he was addressed as Manni here. Leave it to you to disrupt the game blog.

  27. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    I have the Angels announcers on ESPN and they just gave a stat we’re all too familiar with:

    The Yanks are 0-6 against pitchers who are making their MLB debut.

    I may be wrong, but this game could turn the tide.

  28. cs in la August 10th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    It’s kind of nice to see another rookie pitcher get pounded for a change.

  29. MG August 10th, 2011 at 7:30 pm

    Richards has a chance to be a pretty good major league pitcher-he throws hard with some sink, it’s almost unfair taking him out of AA to make his 1st major league appearance on the road at Yankee Stadium.

  30. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    You opened your mouth and I provided it, I don’t have an end game. The ‘blog’ link was on his name right before he put up the Golf Tourney announcement. The different sites under his name just change on their own on their own. Idiot.

    Convenient that he swapped it out when he was addressed as Manni here. Leave it to you to disrupt the game blog.

    I can’t repost the thorough dismantling I put you through last thread, so I just advise anyone who likes blog drama to go back a page and re-read the end where I dismantled Vineyard Yankees.

    Maybe while you are putting yourself back together, with westcoasts help no doubt, you can find the blog link as it would still be there if ID ever posted it. Whats looking more and more likely is that you/westcoast decided you didnt like ID and google searched him to try and find dirt on him.

  31. Bo knows August 10th, 2011 at 7:32 pm

    The game was good until the rollover kids got into it. Major League players oh yeah.

  32. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 7:33 pm

    How great is Granderson?

  33. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    nice solid play by Nunez

  34. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Nunez has a gun

  35. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Is it possible to go back and change the link one chooses to provide in their name?

    The link in my name right now is to my beloved flickr page.

  36. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 7:34 pm

    Nice defense by Tex and Nunez with the backhand.

  37. J. Alfred Prufrock August 10th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Nice play, Nuney. Much more composed lately on the hot corner.

  38. Bo knows August 10th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    Hang some clothes on that clothesline

  39. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:35 pm

    You can change the link, but it only affects new posts. Old posts retain their old linkage

  40. RS August 10th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    That’s an amazing stat on Nova…11-0 in his career when given the lead at any point in the game. I’d love to see Burnett’s record there

  41. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 7:36 pm

    Ravech and NoMah are about to start crying on NESPN.

  42. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    I would love to change the link that led some to this site.

  43. Triple Short of a Cycle August 10th, 2011 at 7:37 pm

    Steve Smith to the Eagles. Could it get any worse for the Giants.

  44. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    I just changed the link in my name to a great picture of Hideki Matsui fighting the ’09 Phillies.

    Now please note whether or not the link in my most recent previous post above has changed.

  45. J. Alfred Prufrock August 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Nova is really throwing the ball well.

  46. J. Alfred Prufrock August 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    Nice

  47. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    BANG BANG Peter is Dead. Muscle with the Gun

  48. Triple Short of a Cycle August 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    This ain’t your father’s Angels

  49. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:39 pm

    It didn’t. Vineyard/Westcoast are just too dumb to understand. If you combined them both you’d have less than 1 human brain.

  50. MG August 10th, 2011 at 7:45 pm

    I don’t see how the Yankees can pull Nova from the rotation, he’s just throwing the ball too well.

    The problem is that Burnett has virtually no upside at this point in his career, he’s gone from an inconsistent, sometimes dominant starter to someone who’s just mediocre most of the time and awful when he has nothing. The Yankees have to understand that and it will be interesting to see how they handle this.

  51. I Am Winning August 10th, 2011 at 7:48 pm

    Michael Kays game calling is reminding me more and more of video game play.

    How many times have we heard: “How many times does a guy make a great play and leadoff?” I love how he mentioned 1/9 times. Uh, WRONG. That would mean it happens twice a game, one for each team, it’s a lot less frequent than that. This guy is a bafoon. I’m tired of hearing the same exact lines game after game.

  52. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 7:49 pm

    It looks like the NYY line-up was ready for Richards – That’s a great way to break a mini losing streak. Hopefully the RS can match…

  53. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    MG, I don’t think the Yankees have any intention of pulling Nova, but I also think they don’t have any intention of pulling AJ.

  54. Triple Short of a Cycle August 10th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Other then Burnett giving us 200 innings what benefit does he serve here? Assuming we get another starter in the off season (Wilson,Darvish, someone else in a trade) you would have CC,Mystery starter,Nova and Hughes. The 5th spot could go to 1 of Garcia or Colon if we bring them back and let AJ rot in the pen. The money spent on him is a sunk cost so what is the need to keep him in the rotation?

  55. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    So 7:34 pm comment, with the link to my flickr page, is now a matter of historical record.

    I can change the link in future comments every single time, if I choose to, but I can’t go back and alter the link I chose in a previous comment.

    Can anyone prove otherwise?

  56. kd August 10th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    karl ravich just praised nova.

    i think he just threw up in his mouth, and now espn will likely suspend him

  57. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    I love nova

  58. MG August 10th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Betsy, putting Hughes in the ‘pen for the rest of the season makes no sense to me whatsoever. He won’t pitch much with Robertson and Soriano out there and it’s a waste of time.

    He has upside if he pitches in rotation, Burnett has none, it’s time to cut bait on Burnett and move on.

  59. Jacob Ruppert August 10th, 2011 at 7:54 pm

    No Nick. Any time you put a link in your name in the history of this blog, it remains.

  60. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    I can’t repost the thorough dismantling I put you through last thread, so I just advise anyone who likes blog drama to go back a page and re-read the end where I dismantled Vineyard Yankees.
    ——————————-

    :lol: Funny stuff. Thanks for the heads-up. Here’s a whole bunch more of our own Irreverent Discourse:

    http://www.google.com/search?q.....=firefox-a

    :lol:

  61. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    MG, it makes no sense to me because he needs innings, but I’m a skeptic and I don’t think AJ, mediocre and average though he is, has been nearly bad enough to remove from the rotation. I’m not sure what Hughes’ upside is or even what the Yankees think it is, but based on what the Yankees have said already (in essence that AJ has pitched better than Phil, which he has), I’d be absolutely floored if they pulled AJ.

  62. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Nova has been so good since he came back from his stint in Triple A. He was good before he was sent down, but now he’s on a completely different level.

  63. blake August 10th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    Ivan Nova…ground ball machine. He doesn’t have the good good slider so far like he had the other night but he’s getting groundballs with fastball movement so far.

  64. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    Tex is now 2-21.

  65. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    “The problem is that Burnett has virtually no upside at this point in his career, he’s gone from an inconsistent, sometimes dominant starter to someone who’s just mediocre most of the time and awful when he has nothing.”

    kinda my feeling as well. AJ is a fine #4/5 starter but there is no realistic expectation for him to ever improve upon that at close to 35. Hughes is 25 and still has upside of being much better than that…..plus he’s better now if he’s right.

  66. MG August 10th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    right now Nova is the 2nd best starter in the rotation, he’s pitching with great confidence and completely in control out there.

    He’s going to wind up with 14-15 wins and start games in the playoffs if he continues to throw like this.

  67. Bo knows August 10th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Go get em Teix

    “Sorry, I’m having my slump, again”.

  68. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    So say they dump AJ into the pen in favor of Hughes and Hughes absolutely bombs down the stretch.

    Then what?

    AJ is worth dumping into the pen, but I think maybe the Yankees want more of a sure thing to step up and take his place than Phil Hughes.

  69. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    If things stay as they are then I think they have to keep Nova in the rotation….otherwise what does that say to the kids in the minors? You perform you should be rewarded.

  70. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Tex is so good over there….it’s easy to take for granted how good he is defensively

  71. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Tex stands so far off the plate that he can’t hit those pitches on the right side of the plate. He always tries to get under them but he has no chance. I really wish he would be willing to make adjustments with long.

  72. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    I asked this earlier…..it’s now a 31 game hit streak but is Dan Uggla the most unlikely 30+ game his streak ever?

  73. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:04 pm

    So say they dump AJ into the pen in favor of Hughes and Hughes absolutely bombs down the stretch.

    Then what?

    AJ is worth dumping into the pen, but I think maybe the Yankees want more of a sure thing to step up and take his place than Phil Hughes.
    ==============

    That’s the thing: Even with his inconsistency, Burnett is still more reliable than Hughes.

  74. Bo knows August 10th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    Nova just passed the first hurdle – Abreau, FB, CU, Cutter. Good stuff

  75. mick August 10th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    AJ is “bad enough” if 5 other guys are better…

  76. MG August 10th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    if Hughes bombs down the stretch he doesn’t pitch in the playoffs and has to earn a spot next year, it’s something they have to find out.

    Burnett has no upside in the rotation, it’s more of the same mediocre crap from start to start.

  77. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    I think if anyone ever seriously challenged Dimaggio’s 56 games it would just be incredible to watch….talk about drama….there is no room for error in that. Games 50-56 would be unreal tension……probably never happen though.

  78. mick August 10th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    It only takes 4 in the playoffs so the #5 guy is moot.

  79. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Nova’s command has just come so far….he can throw 4 pitches for strikes now.

  80. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    Groundball machine

  81. Jacob Ruppert August 10th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    What luxury of riches? AJ Burnett provides nothing positive to the team

  82. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    MG August 10th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    if Hughes bombs down the stretch he doesn’t pitch in the playoffs and has to earn a spot next year, it’s something they have to find out.

    Burnett has no upside in the rotation, it’s more of the same mediocre crap from start to start.

    ========
    Spot on, but I don’t think that they can afford to put Burnett in the bullpen in the event that Hughes craps out. Thus, the we have the 6-man rotation.

  83. RS August 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    I think Nova’s fastball command has improved. He’s barely even throwing his secondary pitches today and still pitching great because he can throw strikes with his sinker. Just everything about his game is getting better and better.

  84. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Just one more AJ hair comment from me and then I’m done: He unfortunately looks like a white supremacist with that hair and tattoos. Definitely NOT a good look.

  85. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Nova is in ground ball/ beast/ you better not send me back to aaa mode. :)

  86. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
    ——————-

    There are several great defensive 1st baseman in MLB right now, but I think Tex is near, or at the top of the list. He really makes it look easy…

  87. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Jacob Ruppert August 10th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    What luxury of riches? AJ Burnett provides nothing positive to the team.

    ======
    I think that’s a bit overstated. He provides about 6 innings per start of three-run ball. That’s not nothing.

  88. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    Maybe they can trade AJ to Nsync :)

  89. mick August 10th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    AJ serves no purpose down the stretch.
    What is he pitching for if not a spot in the playoff rotation?
    Nova, Colon and CC are locks. The 4th spot is Freddy or Hughes.

  90. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Just one more AJ hair comment from me and then I’m done: He unfortunately looks like a white supremacist with that hair and tattoos. Definitely NOT a good look.
    —-
    :lol:

  91. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    MG,

    So squander those games and risk missing the playoffs or losing the division? This is the wrong place, wrong time for a Phil Hughes experiment. Hughes has not done nearly enough to oust anybody from any rotation, including AJ Burnett.

  92. kd August 10th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    swisher is looking a lot more balanced at this point in the season

  93. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    blake,

    I’m sorry I have to break the news to ya, but Nsync has gone the way of all boy bands…to boy band heaven (that’s what I hear, but perhaps it’s band boy hell).

    Gonna have to find another place to dump AJ.

  94. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    mainesoxfan,

    he and Gonzalez are close….they just do it different ways. Gonzo is so smooth and Tex just makes all the plays….not as pretty but effective. Hey I’ve been wanting to ask you….do Red Sox fans like Josh Beckett? I mean I know he’s pitching well for you guys but how can anybody like that guy? ;)

  95. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    Tacking on runs on to a lead. How novel.

  96. DFox August 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    This whole discussion about the rotation is becoming fairly absurd. You can’t send down the guy who might be your #2 starter. I mean come on. This talk has gone from what could be a questionable decision to one that would just be plain absurd and corrupt.

    So in reality, in favor of not defying all sensible logic, it has to come down to Burnett and Hughes. The obvious and sensible decision would be to leave Hughes in the rotation. However, Girardi doesn’t have the guts to do that, so it’s going to be Hughes who goes to the bullpen. Terrible move, but that’s clearly how it’s going to go down.

    I hope I’m wrong though and Burnett lands in the bullpen.

  97. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    AJ in 20 years.

    http://thepowerout.files.wordp.....-celeb.jpg

  98. MG August 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    actually, Burnett has allowed 28 earned runs in his last 42 innings, that’s a 6 ERA.

    He’s averaged 6 innings a start in those games and gives up an average of 4 runs, that is the definition of less than mediocre.

  99. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    “I’m sorry I have to break the news to ya, but Nsync has gone the way of all boy bands…to boy band heaven (that’s what I hear, but perhaps it’s band boy hell).”

    the backstreet boys are back together….maybe they need somebody

  100. 4 NYY August 10th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    kinda my feeling as well. AJ is a fine #4/5 starter but there is no realistic expectation for him to ever improve upon that at close to 35. Hughes is 25 and still has upside of being much better than that…..plus he’s better now if he’s right.

    ===============================================================

    Why is he “fine” at a 4/5 slot ? Rather have any & all starters better than him. I don’t want a loser at any starter spot. To me, a starter is a starter, all should be capable. He’s not. No, they’re not all equal, but slot doesn’t guarantee success over other SP’s.

    $$$ is the only reason he’s a starter on this team. Hopefully gone next year. Problem still rests on his shoulders.

  101. kd August 10th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    welcome to the big leagues kid

  102. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Chavie….swinging the sticks tonight….

  103. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    So is the game being shown on YES tonight? I don’t have that choice on MLB.com and the ESPN station here in Taiwan is showing the ESPN version.

    Rough night on the young kid. Ouch. AA to Yankee Stadium debut. Not really fair to him.

  104. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    You know–AJ might turn out to be really good out of the ‘pen. He’s still got good stuff, and having him throw fewer pitches each outing might mitigate the likelihood of him having a meltdown.

  105. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    nobody is getting fooled tonight by Richards

  106. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    There is no way that they can take nova out of the rotation. AJ should obviously be the odd one out but that won’t happen. So it looks like hughes goes back to the bullpen. I don’t like Hughes not building up innings inthe starting rotation this year but there isn’t any room for him. Its him or AJ, Nova earned his spot.

  107. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Hughes is going to have to earn the 5th spot next year – he’s no guarantee for that

  108. RS August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    I feel bad for this kid…what the heck possessed the Angels to make him go from AA straight to Yankee Stadium?

  109. DocTodd August 10th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    We refer to them as Backstreet Men in our household..

  110. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    “Why is he “fine” at a 4/5 slot ? ”

    if you ignore his contract he is….he takes the ball every 5 days and eats innings and pitches to a 4 something ERA….that’s not a terrible back end starter. My issue as I’ve said many times is that I don’t want him blocking guys that are better and younger than him…..when that starts to happen (and it may be already) then they need to make a decision.

  111. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    blake — are you sure you want us knowing you follow breaking news on the Back Street Boys? :)

  112. Jacob Ruppert August 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Ghostwriter, Burnett gives 6 innings of 3 run ball? I wish. Burnett probably would be better suited out of the pen, except for his wild pitches and lack of control. He only has 2 pitches, so it could work.

  113. DocTodd August 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    How can people say AJ contributes nothing to this team?? The guy makes a great pie!

  114. jacksquat August 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    I think it’s going to be Hughes to the bullpen and Noesi to AAA.

    I’d be really surprised if the Yankees moved AJ out of the rotation.

  115. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    DocTodd August 10th, 2011 at 8:16 pm
    We refer to them as Backstreet Men in our household..

    And soon, we’ll have to start referring to them as the Backstreet Gray Hairs.

  116. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    “blake — are you sure you want us knowing you follow breaking news on the Back Street Boys? :)

    I saw them on the Today show ;)

  117. DFox August 10th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    “My issue as I’ve said many times is that I don’t want him blocking guys that are better and younger than him…..when that starts to happen (and it may be already) then they need to make a decision.”

    I think that’s the whole issue. If the Yankees had a shortage of starters, then Burnett might be a tolerable #5 starter simply due to the lack of options. But that isn’t the case. This is the New York Yankees. A bad contract to the tune of millions of dollars won’t kill them. They can live with a contract guy like that working in the bullpen.

  118. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Richards is probably thinking….my AA catcher is better than this guy

  119. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:15 pm
    You know–AJ might turn out to be really good out of the ‘pen. He’s still got good stuff, and having him throw fewer pitches each outing might mitigate the likelihood of him having a meltdown

    But AJ’s also had some horrific first innings, too. Could be he’d come in with men on base and wilt under the pressure. He’s not exactly tough in his makeup.

  120. kd August 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    blake,

    i guess the aj question boils downs to who he blocks, like you said. from what you’ve seen from manny, is he a better pitcher now? or will he be next year?

  121. DocTodd August 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    This kid is thrown from AA right into the majors…and our star AAA catcher can’t get promoted after almost 2 years …

  122. Triple Short of a Cycle August 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    another bang up start from Ubaldo tonight. 3 runs in the first 4 innings against the mighty Tiger bats

  123. MG August 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    blake, the problem with Burnett is he’s pitching like a guy making $3M a year instead of $16M. If the Yankees treat him like a Darrell Rasner or Shawn Chacon and yank him from the rotation when he’s not winning games that’s fine.

    He’s been worse than mediocre since the end of June, pitching to a 6 ERA.

    Hughes hasn’t been great except for his last start in Chicago (where he was great) but is pitching to about a 4.5 ERA since coming back from the DL-he can only get better, I don’t see where the argument for him to the ‘pen and Burnett staying in the rotation holds any merit.

  124. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    I don’t like seeing Chavez dive…yikes.

  125. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:18 pm
    “blake — are you sure you want us knowing you follow breaking news on the Back Street Boys? ”

    I saw them on the Today show

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Good save. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt and not think you made it a point to tune in just to see them. ;)

  126. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    If you read between the lines, I think the Yankees are down on Hughes. I’m sure they weren’t happy at all that he came into camp overweight, for one – something Pat M confirmed recently. I just think that they don’t want to hand him anything at this point – they don’t know what he is. He’s almost certainly not close to the first half Phil of 2010 – mostly because teams have adjusted and he still doesn’t have secondary pitches. He’s had a hard times staying healthy………It’s just a number of things.

  127. DocTodd August 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    Backstreet Geezers!

  128. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    kd,

    I’m not sure yet….I hope they don’t try and push Manny to the rotation next year….I hope they give him a full season at AAA and let him build his innings. That said……Betances, Noesi, Warren, Phelps, etc could be ready and I think it possible they could produce as well or better than AJ.

  129. ron August 10th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    They have keep hughes as a starter,no matter what,unless he is traded.

    Nova isn’t going anywhere.He is the number 2 starter now,imo.

    I would put burnett in the pen & go with this rotation.

    cc
    nova
    colon
    garcia
    hughes

    This team can catch the rs with that rotation.Burnett is the reason this team can’t really get on a roll.

  130. Vineyard Yankee August 10th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Jerk August 10th, 2011 at 7:31 pm

    I realize your whole pathetic life is this blog, no job, no relationship to speak of as you spend 12 to 16 hours a day posting here day in and day out seeking acceptance for your constant stat babbling, so whatever floats your boat post as much as you want as often as you want. I don’t care about you or your stat sermons.

    Some day maybe you will grow up and learn that there are many more things in life than this blog and what posters think here. Now have some consideration for others here who want to discuss the game that is going on. I’m done with you.

  131. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    some ugly plays by Mathis this inning lol

  132. J. Alfred Prufrock August 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    AWFUL call.

  133. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    yikes, that wasnt even bang bang, he crossed the plate completely before the ball even got there…

  134. Nilsson August 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    1B ump caught napping. How he missed that call, I don’t know.

  135. Bryan August 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Safe by 3-4 steps

  136. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Have some consideration for this blog and stop stalking all of its posters, tia.

  137. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    how could you even call Gardner out on that….you gotta give him safe just because he’s so fast and it would be no way that got him after the ball trickled off the pitcher. Anyways he was safe a whole 1/2 second or so

  138. kd August 10th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    betances would be awesome in the rotation

    wonder if the yankees have the guts to put 2 or 3 inexperienced guys in the rotation

  139. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    MG, because Phil would have gotten torched by a better offensive team than Cleveland (he had no swing and miss stuff there at all), he couldn’t get a win when the Yankees scored 17 runs ( and this was before AJ’s beauty of a game) and overall his stuff has not been that good. He’s been a tease in a lot of ways – when his FB is on, he can have a good game – but if it’s not really on, he can’t, because he has no other pitches. Yeah he probably has more upside than AJ, but it’s not like it’s guaranteed – and again, I don’t think he has any rope any more with the organization.

  140. RS August 10th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    “another bang up start from Ubaldo tonight. 3 runs in the first 4 innings against the mighty Tiger bats”

    and people wanted to trade Betances, Montero, AND Nova for him, lol

  141. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    That cost the Yanks a run. Damn umpiring taking over the game all over the place. ESPN playing it like he was out.

  142. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    KD, that doesn’t take guts – that would be really stupid……..and they aren’t ready anyway

  143. RS August 10th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    Nunez seems much smoother at third base

  144. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    they aren’t even gonna replay that play at first base. Unbelieveable!

  145. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    Also please continue deflecting the fact that you cannot produce the required evidence that ID ever had the link in his name. I really don’t care what you think about me, as I’m sure you’ve googled the hell out of me and continue to do so every day. Everyone is wise to you/westcoast
    ‘s game.

  146. mick August 10th, 2011 at 8:27 pm

    a blind ump makes that call correctly but not one who can see?
    if he goes by sound alone he is safe.

  147. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Gardner was.safe! Umpire fail

  148. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 7:38 pm
    I just changed the link in my name to a great picture of Hideki Matsui fighting the ’09 Phillies.

    Now please note whether or not the link in my most recent previous post above has changed.
    ____
    I just changed my link to direct the browser to this page.

  149. MG August 10th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Betsy, we’ll agree to disagree about Hughes’ last start, I’m not going to get into a back and forth on this with you.

    Hughes had outstanding stuff in his last start including an excellent breaking pitch that got at least 2 swing and miss K’s.

    If I’m Girardi I’m making a tough choice and pulling Burnett from the rotation, last night’s 6th inning, where he gave up 4 runs after being dominant for 4 innings, convinced me he’s not capable of pitching deep into games at this point in the season or his career.

  150. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    umps take away a run and they get one immediately.

  151. luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Hi everyone,

    Just getting home, good game so far i guess

  152. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    Hanger….its ok….solo homer.don’t kill you.

  153. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I think it was Pat M and I who started saying that Nova was a ROY candidate back in ST. This kid has got a lot going for him…I see him as potentially the #3 in play-offs behind CC and Colon.

  154. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    No problem, MG- you’re right, there’s no point in going round and round on this.

  155. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I think it was Pat M and I who started saying that Nova was a ROY candidate back in ST. This kid has got a lot going for him…I see him as potentially the #3 in play-offs behind CC and Colon.
    ========
    I would take him over UJ at this point.

  156. kd August 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    besty,

    it would take guts to take aj out of the rotation with two years left on his deal.

    it would make it harder to sign free agents. the point that i was making is the following: if aj is blocking a better pitcher, then he should sit. we don’t know if manban or betances are any more ready now than when wang, hughes, or joba were called up.

    it’s about putting the best team out there, or letting a veteran try to ‘figure it out’

  157. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    The Jerkface vs Vineyard thing reminded me of this:

    http://www.tvprogram.rs/text_i.....175545.jpg

  158. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    Colon to me is still the #2 guy, but Nova and Freddy are pretty good as the #3 and #4. I have no idea what to expect out of anyone other than CC in the playoffs, however.

  159. luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    Hi Bojo,

    I think he has pitch like the 2nd best starter, he is 6-0 with 2,93 era in his last 10 starts if i’m not mistaken.

  160. 4 NYY August 10th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    # blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    “Why is he “fine” at a 4/5 slot ? ”

    if you ignore his contract he is….he takes the ball every 5 days and eats innings and pitches to a 4 something ERA….that’s not a terrible back end starter. My issue as I’ve said many times is that I don’t want him blocking guys that are better and younger than him…..when that starts to happen (and it may be already) then they need to make a decision.

    ————————————————————————————————–
    If it were up to me, his contract wouldn’t enter into it.
    What you say about an “innings eater” is said over and over. Usually means the guy is NOT good, as in this case. Maybe bullpen would be good for him, who knows. Nova certainly deserves a spot over him. I thought he was gonna be better ( AJ ) when he started the year off, not walking so many. Now, I think he’s back or near leading the league in walks.

  161. sherlockbones August 10th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    I used to post here a long time ago. Remember me? sherlockbones? Lot of new names I don’t recognize. I read through today’s posts. Are multiples still around giving themselves thumbs up? I saw a post from a west coast yankee fan giving thumbs up to some yankeefan 221. Then yankeefan 221 disappeared. So I sherlocked and saw yankeefan 221 was never before and was never after. Same old same old with people pretending someone likes their posts? Same old crazy lohud?

    I moved from NY to the west coast. Hope to move back before winter. Does Miggs still post here? Raymagnetic?

  162. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    If AJ isn’t okay with the idea of going to the ‘pen, the Yanks could always waive him, eat some of his salary, and trade him to another club.

  163. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    What better pitcher is he blocking, KD? Until kids do it on the big league level., they are unproven…..and the Yankees are trying to win; they aren’t going to put kids who aren’t ready (Banuelos and Betances aren’t) in the rotation. Even if they were ready, they wouldn’t do it 2 at a tim.

  164. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Bojo,

    I think at this point the team has not closed the door on the possibility of Nova pitching Game 2. It’s a long shot but it could happen. Depends on the performance of Colon in addition to Nova.

  165. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:13 pm
    Hey I’ve been wanting to ask you….do Red Sox fans like Josh Beckett? I mean I know he’s pitching well for you guys but how can anybody like that guy?
    ——————

    Somewhat of a loaded question, but I understand why you asked. IMO there are some things to like and likewise somethings to dislike about Beckett:

    Dislike:
    - Hits to many batters. There’s a time and place for that, but he seems to do it far to often.
    - Retaliates for bad pitches by hitting batters: Totally BS.
    - He’s not consistent in his physical conditioning: He came into the 2010 camp fat and out of shape.

    Like:
    - He’s a RS… and signed (at the time) a team friendly contract.
    - Takes responsibility for bad pitching performances: He may not like like it, but normally owns it when he’s pitched poorly – Not like Lackey….
    - Quietly he’s done a ton of non-profit work. His bowling tournament is a major earner for the Jimmy Fund.
    - He played a major roll in winning the 2007 WS – For that alone he earns many bonus points.

    He’s a RS and I’ll always root for him, but I agree he’s not the easiest guy to like.

  166. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Burnett was put on waivers, so far no takers….
    Shocker!

  167. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Burnett was put on waivers, so far no takers….
    Shocker!

    Thats fine, it means the Yankees can trade him to all but 10 teams now.

  168. MG August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    what a shot by Grandy…

  169. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Burnett was put on waivers, so far no takers….
    Shocker!

    ============
    Really? When did that happen?

    Grandy!!!

  170. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Ok grandy. We forgive you.

  171. luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Bret,

    Do you have the numbers from Nova last ten starts??, because the figures i gave in my previous post are from memory of when i read them in article about a week ago.

    Grandy!!

  172. JobaTipsHisCap August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    Cano, please learn it.

  173. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    I love you Granderson!!!!!!! MVP!!!!

  174. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Granderson HAS TO BE in the MVP discussion. If i hear about Pedroia and Ellsbury, im going to scream. This is between Grandy and Gonzalez, and if he can get his average up a bit, that would help…

  175. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Mainesoxfan,

    Fair enough.

    Grandy!

  176. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Really? When did that happen?

    Everyone gets put on waivers in August, Posada and burnett were in the first group the Yankees put on waivers. You can only put 8 players per day I think.

  177. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Burnett was put on waivers, so far no takers….
    Shocker!

    ============
    Really? When did that happen?

    ___

    Last week Posada, Burnett and Soriano were put on waivers.

  178. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    Grandy felt bad about last night apparently.

  179. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    And to think fans last year wanted Gardner in CF in place of that guy. Nearly the whole blog was ready to trade Curtis Granderson and run him out of town.

  180. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    ‘Face, thanks, I must have missed that.

  181. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    What an incredible year…………..he’d better get serious MVP consideration – but he won’t

  182. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Thanks, ac1!

  183. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    I’m starting to feel bad for Tex. He’s just lost at the plate

  184. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    And to think fans last year wanted Gardner in CF in place of that guy. Nearly the whole blog was ready to trade Curtis Granderson and run him out of town.

    He did the right thing and went to K Long for help and agreed to a complete re-vamping, thats good on him. I still want gardner in CF over him as I think he is a better defender, but Gardner-Grandy or Grandy-Gardner LF/CF either way is awesome.

  185. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    I love AJ, but for the first time I’m reasonably certain that he doesn’t belong in the rotation.

  186. Triple Short of a Cycle August 10th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Jerkface,

    Somehow I wish Tex would do the same thing in the off season with Long

  187. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Good thing Tex is putting up power numbers, because that .247 is sad….
    If he wasnt near the top of homers and rbis, it would be much worse…

  188. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Sox fans tried to run Ellsbury out of town last year.

  189. luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Bret,

    fans were probably arguing that Gardner was the better defender, but in all fairness the diference was so small that it wasn’t worth it to try it, like half a win or somthing like that.

  190. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    I’ve actually been on this blog for the last 3 years or so. Pete Abe. days. I say it how I see it most the time. I love the Yanks, but if it were me, AJ and Posada would be rid of this team. I’d have to see alot from AJ to convince me to want him around the next 2 years. Posada got his deal and got the extra year for basically nothing in production. Granderson is a monster. That much I do know.

  191. Bo knows August 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Well….. Granderson in CF has a Minus UZR, no?

  192. m August 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    sherlock,

    s.o.s.

  193. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    SOME said Granderson was a PLATOON player.

  194. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Tex can’t reach those outside pitches batting lefty. Every at bat with him is the same. They throw him pitches on the outside part of the plate and he either swings thru them or pops it up because he is under it.

  195. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    SOME said Granderson was a PLATOON player.

    He was, until he completely changed his swing.

  196. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    Bret,

    fans were probably arguing that Gardner was the better defender

    *******

    Um, no. They were saying Gardner was the better ballplayer.

  197. Swishalicious33 August 10th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    Yup, Sox fans hated Ellsbury last year. Now they’re chanting “MVP!” God, Sox fans are disgusting.

  198. kd August 10th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    cano … what a play!

  199. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Um, no. Granderson never played in a platoon situation so therefore he was never a platoon player.

  200. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    What an incredible year…………..he’d better get serious MVP consideration – but he won’t
    ——-

    The numbers just aren’t there. However, he as a center-fielder he might get consideration. He’s also done a lot of work as an ambassador of the game; they could make a case for him if they take his entire body of work this year into consideration. However, I share your pessimism about his chances. It’s a shame; Grandy’s becoming one of my favorite players and the heir apparent to Jeter as the face of the Yankees.

  201. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    The Yanks are actually getting compliments on their defense from the ESPN guys? Wow.

  202. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    The #s aren’t there?

  203. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Um, no. Granderson never played in a platoon situation so therefore he was never a platoon player.

    Just because he was never actually platooned does not mean he wasn’t a platoon player. Before K-Long got his hands on him he had a massive, massive platoon split.

  204. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    didn’t know Torre called Francona to warn him of Beckett’s pitching…

  205. luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:39 pm

    He will get MVP consideration…he is the yankees MVP, but you are right there are better options or flashier candidates ( Bautista, Gonzalez)

    Cano doesn’t hustle??

  206. Triple Short of a Cycle August 10th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    If Tex is such a liability batting lefty why doesn’t he bat from the right side 100 percent of the time?

  207. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Anyway, it really doesn’t matter so much – I’m just beyond thrilled that he’s on this team. I think he’s gone relatively unnoticed in NY – he doesn’t get ANY press at all

  208. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    They should totally put Gardner in CF and Granderson in LF, then we’d get much better power numbers from our LF’er and we’d win more games!

  209. Swishalicious33 August 10th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    “Granderson on pace for 43 homers, 128 RBIs, 145 runs scored and 30 steals. Staggering.”

    If he ends up with stats like that and doesn’t win the MVP, it’s because of the logo on his jersey, nothing else.

  210. Kelvin August 10th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Nova pitching lovely

  211. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    yeah im pretty confident in saying Nova is not leaving the rotation again…..
    and since they are too gutless to stand up to Burnett, it’s to the pen with Hughes and we have to start all over again in 2012….

  212. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    Fun Fact: Jeter is now a platoon player

  213. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Ivan cruising. He’s gotten very economical because he gets so many quick groundouts.

  214. DFox August 10th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Another outstanding start for Nova. Talking about MVP, this guy’s got a great shot at ROY.

  215. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Must suck when you think you know it all and you terribly misread a player. If some of you were GM last year, you would’ve obsessed over Granderson’s splits, sold short on him despite his tools and dumped the would-be team MVP for pennies on the dollar.

    Then you throw the idiot label around like you have the credibility to make those judgments.

    That’s the kicker right there.

    You can be wrong. Everyone’s wrong.

    But when you pizz all over others when they are wrong and take glee in it, you look like a douchenozzle on top of being an idiot.

  216. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:32 pm
    BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:31 pm

    I think it was Pat M and I who started saying that Nova was a ROY candidate back in ST. This kid has got a lot going for him…I see him as potentially the #3 in play-offs behind CC and Colon.
    ========
    I would take him over UJ at this point.
    ___
    Definitely…I think both you and I were against that trade. Ubaldo throws 95? So does Nova…Another good trade by doing nothing.

  217. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    I wonder if Phil’s innings will really be bad in 2012 or if he’ll be ok because he recently (2010) threw a lot? It’s really not on the Yankees in any case because Phil was injured. He has to find a way to stay on the mound……..

  218. kd August 10th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Granderson on pace for 43 homers, 128 RBIs, 145 runs scored and 30 steals

    that’s an mvp in my book.

  219. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    The #s aren’t there?
    =============

    He’s ranked sixth in OPS (likely fourth after tonight). Beltran and Bautista are ahead of him.

  220. m August 10th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    A lot of people wanted to dump Granderson. Like right away. I felt it was too soon (pat on the back :) )

    I personally wanted Brett in CF, but he’s turned out to be a good LF, too. I didn’t see anyone here suggest that Gardner was a better baseball player. Just a better defender. And if anyone said that, then you should have ignored it.

  221. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:33 pm
    _
    Good evening Luis.

    Man–it’s tough to keep up with the speed of posts here.

  222. randy l. August 10th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    i think hughes is going to be the odd man out simply because he’s so erratic and nova is better right now and very consistent.

    things happen fast in a rotation . i’d like to have the yankees keep hughes stretched out. they might need him.

    the yankees don’t have the guts to send aj to the bullpen.

  223. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    Geez, this game is just rolling along, lol.

  224. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    But when you pizz all over others when they are wrong and take glee in it, you look like a douchenozzle on top of being an idiot.

    You seem to be describing yourself right now. Not sure what your beef is with this Granderson thing? It took rebuild of his swing from one of the better hitting coaches in the league to make him viable against lefties. That is awesome. There is no guarantee that any other team would have had the same success had they acquired him or that he would have had the gumption to even ask K Long to do it.

  225. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    m,

    Pat M. did most of the defending of Granderson.

  226. m August 10th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Bautista could get a lot of consideration, if the writers can ignore the sign stealing “scandal”.

    The Red Sox might split the vote, or be co-mvps.

    Granderson is up there, but Yankee bias will work against him. I think Gonzalez wins in the end.

  227. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Jerkface,

    The only people I’ve pizzed on are the ones who need to be kept in check.

  228. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    This Rookies Dad has just been shoving his face with food all night long. Everytime they show him on ESPN he is eating.

    Sorry but I would be a little too nervous to eat on a night like this.

  229. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    They should totally put Gardner in CF and Granderson in LF, then we’d get much better power numbers from our LF’er and we’d win more games!
    ————-

    What’s funny is how many folks unwittingly make that some variant of that very argument, and they aren’t kidding when they do it. :)

  230. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Ghost, ok – but that doesn’t do enough for me. I don’t look at alphabet soup stats – not that it’s a problem if other people do. The guy has been lights out all year- but again, it’s not a big deal; I just wish he’d get more recognition in his own town.

    Randy, I think Phil will be the long -man – I mean, he has no other role. He’s obviously not a late-inning reliever…….. AJ is erratic, Phil is erratic; six of one, half a dozen of the other.

  231. luis August 10th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Bojo,

    Maybe it’s really fast, i just check in for a little while, well enjoy the rest of the game i’ll check later on

  232. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    Cashman at this point would be really dumb to not see that the Yankees best chance at winning the World Series may be a rotation consisting of CC, Colon, and the two hard throwing youngsters.

    I think he knows this. I also think he loves AJ Burnett and can see a firestorm coming here.

    I love AJ Burnett too. I wouldn’t want to make the decision that pulled him from the rotation. But fortunately, that’s not my job. Cashman gets paid to make these difficult decisions and he wouldn’t be doing his job if Burnett sticks in the rotation over one of the two kids.

  233. DFox August 10th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    About Granderson winning MVP: if the Yankees win the division, then he should win it.

  234. m August 10th, 2011 at 8:52 pm

    What is your point Bret? You think I’m trying to steal Pat M.’s glory? :P

    We should move on to another topic.

  235. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    I’ll pat myself on the back as well…….as a matter of fact, I predicted not only that he would be big in the playoffs last year, but that he’d have a big year this year. Thank you Grandy for proving me right, lol

  236. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Swishalicious33 August 10th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    “Granderson on pace for 43 homers, 128 RBIs, 145 runs scored and 30 steals. Staggering.”

    If he ends up with stats like that and doesn’t win the MVP, it’s because of the logo on his jersey, nothing else.
    —————————-

    You’ve got me intrigued – When was the last time NYY player didn’t win the MVP award when he should have?

  237. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    G-C, really? Hughes ahead of Garcia? That’s not happening. Why does Garcia consistently get underrated?

  238. sherlockbones August 10th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    S.O.S. still posts here?

  239. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    You’ve got me intrigued – When was the last time NYY player didn’t win the MVP award when he should have?

    Derek Jeter, twice.

  240. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Betsy,

    I remember that. You weren’t swayed by the Granderson bashing on this blog.

  241. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Maine, I’m still ticked off at Mattingly losing the MVP to Clemens, lol

  242. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    Swishalicious33 August 10th, 2011 at 8:47 pm
    “Granderson on pace for 43 homers, 128 RBIs, 145 runs scored and 30 steals. Staggering.”

    If he ends up with stats like that and doesn’t win the MVP, it’s because of the logo on his jersey, nothing else.
    —————————-

    You’ve got me intrigued – When was the last time NYY player didn’t win the MVP award when he should have?

    ============
    Rivera has been screwed out of at least two Cy Young Awards as far as I’m concerned.

  243. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 8:56 pm

    If Hughes comes out on Saturday and is throwing BBs like he did against Chicago, there’s no way he’s getting pulled from the rotation.

    The guy who pitched in Chicago is the kind of guy that can dominate playoff offenses. No one in the organization is going to marginalize that talent in the bullpen. They WILL figure out a way to keep both him and Nova in the rotation. I’m not sure what it will entail, but you can be SURE they will.

    Phil’s fate is still in his own hands. I think he knows that and I’m confident he’ll come out with some heat on Saturday.

  244. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Wish Martin had done that at least once last night when he grounded out 3 times with two outs and a runner on 2nd.

  245. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    Bret, I was SO ticked off by Joel Sherman. He judged the trade a lousy one weeks into the season – and this was after Grandy had already come through big time in Fenway. I felt bad for Granderson, but mostly my philosophy is this: if you work hard enough, good things will come. I felt there was no way Granderson wasn’t going to improve. I don’t know that I thought he was going to do this, but I felt he was going to have a big year.

  246. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 8:57 pm

    JackCurryYES One AL scout who has seen Nova’s last 3 starts said Nova should definitely be in post-season rotation, maybe even as gm 2 starter.

  247. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    “You’ve got me intrigued – When was the last time NYY player didn’t win the MVP award when he should have?”

    ______________________________________________

    Jeter losing to Morneau in 2006 was an absolute crime.

    Jeter also should have won in 1999 as far as I’m concerned.

  248. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Guidry lost to Rice

  249. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    G-C, I really hope you’re right – I’m excited about his start. The problem is that everything has to go right with his FB because he has nothing behind it……unless it’s that new curve, but he’s always been erratic with that, so we’ll see. He’s still not a guy I would want to see on the mound in a big spot.

  250. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
    Derek Jeter, twice.
    ——

    Which years JF? 2000, 2006 or 2009?

  251. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Tex and Jeter were 2 and 3 in 2009 too right?

  252. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    I see Colon has fallen out of favor with the media and scouts, but he’s still done too much for me to kick him down to #3. Nova, however, is absolutely earning himself a post-season start……….no doubt.

  253. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Brian–Can you honestly explain to me why Sergio Mitre has not gotten ONE SINGLE MVP VOTE?!?! Anti-NYY bias if you ask me.

  254. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Jeter should have won in 1999 for sure…….I don’t even remember who won that year, lol.

  255. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    “G-C, really? Hughes ahead of Garcia? That’s not happening. Why does Garcia consistently get underrated?”

    __________________________________

    Betsy,

    If Hughes throws the ball like he did against Chicago for the rest of the year, yes, Hughes over Garcia.

    It’s certainly not a given that he’ll do that, but I’m not sure why people think it’ll take some type of apocalyptic moment for that to happen. He threw the ball that way for 2 years until he ran into whatever mysterious problems afflicted him in the beginning of this year.

    Freddy Garcia has definitely been underrated and undervalued, you are absolutely right on that count. Right now, I think he’s a pretty clear choice as your number two starter in a division series match-up against either Texas or Detroit.

    That being said, I believe that if everything shakes out the way the Yankees hope, their playoff rotation will see at least one of the youngsters (I’d prefer to see Hughes, but either way) and Bartolo.

  256. pat August 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    JackCurryYES Through 6 innings, Ivan Nova has collected 15 of the 18 outs in the infield. The other outs are a CS and 2 flyballs.

    JackCurryYES One AL scout who has seen Nova’s last 3 starts said Nova should definitely be in post-season rotation, maybe even as gm 2 starter.

  257. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    Jeter should have gotten one in 2009.

  258. m August 10th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    lol, sherlock.

    You asked how it was here. I meant same ol’ *beep*

    But yes, sos is back.

  259. DFox August 10th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Wow, Nova hasn’t gotten 1 close pitch tonight.

  260. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    Find me people who bashed Granderson after his swing change. He never changed his swing while sucking against LHP while on the tigers, so seeing him continue his prior performance for the Yankees wasn’t exactly out of the question. It took a real big change for him to succeed.

  261. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    I see Colon has fallen out of favor with the media and scouts, but he’s still done too much for me to kick him down to #3. Nova, however, is absolutely earning himself a post-season start……….no doubt.

    ___

    I would say Nova COULD earn the #2 spot in the playoffs…
    Not really a knock on Colon but a praise of what Nova has done.
    Also can depend on road vs. home, opposing starter, etc
    and how Colon pitches the rest of the season.

  262. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Nova got squeezed a little there..

  263. m August 10th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Nova’s not my game 2 starter. He’s a lot better at it now, but he’s a year removed from letting innings get away from him when pitching out of the stretch.

  264. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    Rivera has been screwed out of at least two Cy Young Awards as far as I’m concerned.
    ————-

    Hey, I’m a buyer Ghostwriter – I’ll stand in line to donate for a new annex in the MLB HOF for Mo Rivera!!

  265. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    I wouldn’t be scared about throwing AJ in a play-off game. Tell him you need 7 strong, and then take him out after 4 or 5 innings…just before he implodes.

    He has shown electric stuff to shut down the tough opponents we face, but the problem has been leaving him in too long. In play-offs, Joe would have a quick hook.

  266. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    It’s time to get the bullpen up. Nova is getting the ball up now….

  267. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    I smell a dp coming…

  268. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    In play-offs, Joe would have a quick hook.

    No he wouldn’t, he left him in to die against a molina bro last year.

  269. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    dammit…just missed it..

  270. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 8:56 pm
    Rivera has been screwed out of at least two Cy Young Awards as far as I’m concerned.
    ————-

    Hey, I’m a buyer Ghostwriter – I’ll stand in line to donate for a new annex in the MLB HOF for Mo Rivera!!
    ==================

    Heh. :) Me too!

  271. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Nova still doesn’t miss enough bats to be a better bet than a healthy Hughes.

    People say Hughes needs to “show consistency.”

    Okay. I agree. Nova also needs to show he can miss bats with some consistency.

    Chien Ming Wang once struck out 10 batters in a game too.

  272. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    AJ just seems to melt down after 80 pitches.

  273. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    In play-offs, Joe would have a quick hook.

    No he wouldn’t, he left him in to die against a molina bro last year.
    ___
    He learned a lesson I hope.

  274. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    Nova starting to fall apart here.

  275. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    G-C, Phil is very erratic in terms of being able to maintain velocity and that game he had everything working. I just don’t know how much of a pitcher he is – I mean, he really doesn’t have good secondary pitches and I tend to think he lets moments overwhelm him (2009 post-season, 2 starts against TX last year). I mean, he has an awful lot to prove as a pitcher………I’d like to see him continue to start because how much work is he really going to get in the pen, but the 6 man rotation is about to end. That’s just my opinion, though. I really think the Yankees, and they are the only ones whose opinion counts, have lost some faith in him. I’m not saying they don’t think he can still be a good pitcher, but he has some work to do to restore their confidence.

  276. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
    Brian–Can you honestly explain to me why Sergio Mitre has not gotten ONE SINGLE MVP VOTE?!?! Anti-NYY bias if you ask me.
    ——–

    Hey Brad, Nice to hear from you!! Having said that, I think you’re luring me into a trap…. :)

  277. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 9:08 pm

    This has to be his last batter. Against this team you don’t want to give them a chance to get back in the game.

  278. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Ac, there’s a long way to go, so these speculations by the media about how a post-season rotation would set up is kind of silly

  279. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 pm
    In play-offs, Joe would have a quick hook.

    No he wouldn’t, he left him in to die against a molina bro last year.
    ___
    He learned a lesson I hope.
    ————

    ‘Face is eight: Joe is stubborn.

  280. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    All night long Nova’s been paying tribute to Chien Ming Wang. Now he’s honoring AJ.

    Good guy.

  281. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    alright Nova, perhaps we should get him outta there

  282. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    This would be a perfect time to bring in DROb…he likes bases loaded no out situations…I’m not a fan of formula roles.

  283. NYY fan in NH August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    bases loaded, no outs.. Nova is in trouble here. already a run in

  284. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    I hope this doesn’t back fire on them, Nova lost it quickly like 3 batters ago. Girardi’s leash is WAY too long some times.

  285. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Nova is done. If they don’t pull him now, it will get really ugly here.

  286. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Part of Joe’s bullpen strategy is to leave the starters in too long. It basically saves some innings for the pen at the cost of runs.

  287. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    Rothschild just called to pen to find out when Soriano would be ready. Answer was when the bases are empty again.

  288. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    What is Girardi’s problem? Why wait for the bases to be loaded for taking action?

    Crappy manager.

  289. rr212 August 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Interested to see how Soriano does in this spot.

  290. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    G-C, one thing I should say – AJ is not going to get ANY better than he already is and Phil might…..but I don’t know that they are looking at it that way.

  291. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Solid job by Nova, but he didn’t do enough here to guarantee himself a rotation spot.

    He didn’t show any progress in missing bats from his last start against a very light hitting offense.

  292. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    I like this decision. This a good test and a good opportunity for Soriano.

  293. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Nova only got 2 swinging strikes today :(

  294. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 pm
    Part of Joe’s bullpen strategy is to leave the starters in too long. It basically saves some innings for the pen at the cost of runs.
    ____
    I beleive his season strategy is different from play-off strategy. He manages the season for a marathon, but the play-offs for a spring.

  295. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    G-C August 10th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Solid job by Nova, but he didn’t do enough here to guarantee himself a rotation spot.

    He didn’t show any progress in missing bats from his last start against a very light hitting offense.
    =========

    He sailed through six innings, allowing only one run.

  296. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    He Kd the first guy and didn’t get the call…..lost the plate. Good start overall….left a mess to clean up though.

  297. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    This is where you want to see Robertson and not Soriano. I wish Girardi could think outside the box sometimes not have to use everyone only in their inning. Soriano scares me in spots liks this.

  298. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    I don’t like inserting Sori into this situation after rushing him through a warm up.

    Not much choice I guess.

  299. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Soriano has looked great since his return, which doesn’t surprise me. I thought before he came back that he would be a significant presence if healthy…………..

  300. G-C August 10th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Not gonna lie, I think it would work in the Yankees benefit long term if a couple more of these runs get charged to Nova.

    6 innings of 2 run ball might solidify his rotation spot. 6 innings of 4 or 5 run ball and a good start by Hughes on Saturday probably gets him bumped.

    Its in the Yankees best interest for the latter to happen, and such an outcome would probably make it easier to facilitate that.

  301. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    I beleive his season strategy is different from play-off strategy. He manages the season for a marathon, but the play-offs for a spring.

    This isn’t really born out in the games though.

  302. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    “Nova only got 2 swinging strikes today”

    He didn’t have the good slider right from the start today.

  303. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Nice work by Soriano.

  304. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Nice!

  305. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Nice job. Flyball pitcher gets an easy DP

  306. rr212 August 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    thats a nice job there.

  307. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    If Nova was getting such good results with his sinker, why bother with the slider? He wasn’t going for strike-outs today.

    I think he has enough tools to vary his approach based on the opponent. Time will tell.

  308. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    In an optimal world, Joe acts like that, but in the real world he doesn’t.

  309. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Heh, lol

  310. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Great job by Soriano…but DRob would have struck out the side! :-)

  311. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Huge!! Soriano has been Beasting it since he came back.

  312. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Rafael Soriano could be HUGE for this club.

  313. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Nice job by Soriano. I think it’s obvious that he wasn’t healthy at the beginning of the year because he looks so much better now.

  314. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Wow, that was quick

  315. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    Well…. I stand corrected. Sori’s looked real good since returning.

  316. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    V

  317. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    I would send Soriano out for the eighth.

  318. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    If Nova was getting such good results with his sinker, why bother with the slider? He wasn’t going for strike-outs today.

    I think he has enough tools to vary his approach based on the opponent. Time will tell.

    Because he doesn’t have the kind of command of his fastball where he can rely on it 100%. Not to mention throwing purely for ground outs leads to BABIP innings where the other team gets 3 hits. Combined with the lack of command and some walks here and there its not good.

    Pre 2 strikes, Nova should be going for ground balls put in play. Once he gets 2 strikes he needs to be thinking K.

  319. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    3 pitches. Keep him in next inning.

  320. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    WOW only 4 pitches….maybe Soriano is finally earning his moneys worth. Very impressive

  321. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Great job by Soriano…..about as good as you can hope for there.

  322. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    Now we can use D-Rob or Soriano to allow Mo to rest when needed – fantastic stuff. So much for Soriano not being able to handle not closing

  323. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 9:16 pm

    G-C August 10th, 2011 at 9:07 pm
    Nova still doesn’t miss enough bats to be a better bet than a healthy Hughes.

    People say Hughes needs to “show consistency.”

    Okay. I agree. Nova also needs to show he can miss bats with some consistency.

    Chien Ming Wang once struck out 10 batters in a game too.
    ——–

    In 2011 the whole issue of Hughes’ consistency is based on his velocity issues. Problem is we don’t know when that issue will creep up again. He could be great in his next outing & then not get into the 5th in his next. He’s a question mark.

    Not sure what his issue was at the end of last season & the post. Maybe he was injured and didn’t know it. But he does get a lot of swings & misses when he’s healthy.

    I think Nova has shown consistency. He had a complete meltdown here in the 7th though :lol: , but he’s good. Though it would be interesting to see how he fairs once the league has seen a lot of him

  324. Kelvin August 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    I really like how the Yank veterans are taking care of the rookies, good clubhouse.

    Only awkward guy is probably soriano and he seems to be complacent with any role given now

  325. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:13 pm
    I beleive his season strategy is different from play-off strategy. He manages the season for a marathon, but the play-offs for a spring.

    This isn’t really born out in the games though.
    ___
    I’d love to have the time to actually look at that. It seems that during season, Joe will put up seemingly crazy line-ups to rest players, or do things with the long term in mind…but in play-offs (IIRC), he goes full out with best line-up, and is more willing to pull the starter because he has a #5 in the pen. Not sure how I would prove it.

  326. Yanks78 August 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    This is why people are still skeptical about Nova – he just can’t miss bats consistently.

    That’s why it is better to see what Hughes has because at least Hughes can miss bats.

  327. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    I’m not wild about the walks from Nova tonight, but it was another good start for him.

  328. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:18 pm

    Nova lost his release point in the 7th…..he really wasn’t challenged much before that though. Good start for him.

  329. MG August 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    I think Soriano was trying to pitch through an injury coming out of spring training.

    He even had a mop up inning in April (he pitched the 9th after the Yankees went way ahead) where he threw nothing but slow breaking pitches to get 3 outs.

    It’s only understandable for a competitor pitching on a big new contract that he wouldn’t want to shut it down.

    Now that he’s healthy you are seeing the kind of pitcher the Yankees signed, he’s going to make them very tough down the stretch.

  330. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Soriano has impressed me since coming back. Wouldn’t mind seeing him and or D-Rob spelling MO as the closer every now & now to give MO a break.

  331. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    Definitely send him out there for the 8th. Maybe use Ayala in the 9th and then you have Mo and D Rob for tomorrows game.

  332. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Joe will put up seemingly crazy line-ups to rest players, or do things with the long term in mind…but in play-offs (IIRC), he goes full out with best line-up, and is more willing to pull the starter because he has a #5 in the pen. Not sure how I would prove it

    Well of course he isnt throwing out a house money lineup in the playoffs, but I am talking specifically about pitcher management and his bullpen strategy. Look at the playoff games and when he removed pitchers.

  333. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    Why are we so obsessed with NOVA missing bats??? The name of the game is to get outs. I dont care how its done. He’s 24 years old in his first full year in the bigs. Let him grow up for chrisssakes!!!

  334. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    R. Soriano obviously made it through waivers…but it’s strange to think the Yankees probably would’ve dumped him had someone made a claim. They really need him badly.

  335. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 9:21 pm

    Skeptical about nova??? He’s about to be 7-1 in his last 11 starts???

  336. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
    Nice job by Soriano. I think it’s obvious that he wasn’t healthy at the beginning of the year because he looks so much better now.
    ———

    I wonder if he was a bit nervous coming to NY and he seems to idolize MO. Maybe he was unhealthy and didn’t want to make waves. He apparently had a back issue & then we learned about the elbow.

    But he is totally awesome now.

  337. Abomb82 August 10th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    “R. Soriano obviously made it through waivers…but it’s strange to think the Yankees probably would’ve dumped him had someone made a claim. They really need him badly.”

    If he keeps pitching like this, Boras will make him opt out to score a multi-year deal.

  338. West Coast Yankee Fan August 10th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    “I think Phil will be the long -man – I mean, he has no other role.”

    ************

    The asylum doors are open. From All-Star and 18-8 in the AL East to long man. Unreal.

  339. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    Why are we so obsessed with NOVA missing bats??? The name of the game is to get outs. I dont care how its done. He’s 24 years old in his first full year in the bigs.

    Look at the best pitchers in baseball, notice how they miss bats and, generally, don’t walk guys. Nova doesn’t miss bats and also walks guys. Its a bad recipe for success. Maybe fine for a back of the rotation guy or a pitcher on a bad team but not the Yankees. If Nova doesn’t improve to miss bats then I’d trade him in the offseason while his value is really high.

    Fortunately, he has shown an increased ability to miss bats recently, and if it is a mark of a changing skill set he has a lot of potential going forward.

  340. MG August 10th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    you can tell when a hitter is in a slump when everything they hit hard is right at someone-Teix has hit 2 line drives tonight right at outfielders.

  341. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    The asylum doors are open.

    So thats how you escaped, eh?

  342. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:23 pm

    Stalk talk.

  343. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Let’s get all the positives we can from Soriano and if he opts out because he pitched so well, then so be it.

  344. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Kelvin August 10th, 2011 at 9:17 pm
    I really like how the Yank veterans are taking care of the rookies, good clubhouse.

    Only awkward guy is probably soriano and he seems to be complacent with any role given now
    ____
    Much better than the Red Sox butt-f**king that rookies endure from David Ortiz

    Personally, I just find this distasteful…

    http://www.nesn.com/.a/6a01157.....970d-200wi

  345. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    Nova’s slider didn’t seem to dive much tonight. Other than that, loved his start.

  346. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 9:24 pm

    cano is missing the single….

  347. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Just missing the single.

  348. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Good for Cano! The losing streaks are over!

  349. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    I don’t think he will get another AB tonight though.

  350. ac1 August 10th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    6 run lead? should go to noesi, and not back to Soriano….

  351. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    If Cano is going to start hitting opo bombs then watch out.

  352. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:27 pm

    Here is a closer view of the abuse heaped on rookies by Ortiz…does the man have no shame?! Where is the outcry in Boston?!

    http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a011570.....970d-400wi

  353. Kelvin August 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Bojo, I laughed so hard from your post. Lmao that picture is priceless

  354. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Ayala pitching in a blow out? Why I never!

  355. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Nova doesn’t miss a ton of bats on average and he does walk some guys…..but he’s also shown improvement in both areas which is encouraging.

  356. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Kelvin August 10th, 2011 at 9:28 pm

    Bojo, I laughed so hard from your post. Lmao that picture is priceless
    ———-

    ditto.

  357. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    NIce move, bringing in a closer to get out of the 7th. The luxury of having three closers in the pen.

    And, Ayala isn’t exactly chopped liver to finish it up in gar-bage time.

  358. kd August 10th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    no kidding blake.

    that’s gotta be scary for al pitchers

  359. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Our bullpen is stacked.

  360. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Nice play by Robbie!

  361. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    JF—

    Not sure I agree with your point about going for the strike-out with 2 strikes on the batter. I think it depends on the opponents. If the batter is a power hitter, then yes. Or a speedster that can beat out a grounder–yes. But otherwise, if the sinker is working and there are no runners on, then the sinker is as good as a strikeout.

  362. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 9:33 pm

    Robbie making it look easy…

  363. MG August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Joe, did you ever wonder why chopped liver got such a bad rap?

    I mean, ‘isn’t exactly chopped liver’ doesn’t make it sound like a chopped liver sandwich on fresh rye bread with red onion would be a great choice for lunch, does it?

  364. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 pm

    Best game Cano has played all season…..he’s been great on both sides.

  365. syd_cash August 10th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    Our bullpen is stacked.
    _________

    I agree they look so solid and after they all performed so well against the RedSox too (for the most part) I am very impressed. 7-9 is pretty much locked down for us.

  366. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    MG August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 pm
    Joe, did you ever wonder why chopped liver got such a bad rap?

    I mean, ‘isn’t exactly chopped liver’ doesn’t make it sound like a chopped liver sandwich on fresh rye bread with red onion would be a great choice for lunch, does it?
    ___
    If I lose sleep over this one, I’m coming after you!

  367. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    MG – I always hated liver. My mom loved it, but I couldn’t stand it, chopped or otherwise.

  368. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    Does anyone know if the Yankees ever resurfaced the Warning Tracke from last year?? Remember when Berkman slipped and fell on his head in foul ground in Game 5 of the ALCS.

  369. Abomb82 August 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    “Ayala pitching in a blow out? Why I never!”

    But he has a 1.50 ERA!!!

  370. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    “Our bullpen is stacked.”

    Just think if they still had Joba….

  371. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:27 pm
    Here is a closer view of the abuse heaped on rookies by Ortiz…does the man have no shame?! Where is the outcry in Boston?!

    http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a011570…..970d-400wi
    ———————–

    Well Played –

    Keep an eye on the guy on the right hand side of that picture – I hear he’s a pretty good 2nd baseman….

  372. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:39 pm

    The only thing NY has to do now is have Girardi actually MAKE the MOVE to the pen and get the starter out of there in time. The pen is more than qualified to get the outs from even the 6th inning on.

  373. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:37 pm
    Does anyone know if the Yankees ever resurfaced the Warning Tracke from last year?? Remember when Berkman slipped and fell on his head in foul ground in Game 5 of the ALCS.
    ___
    Haven’t heard anything. IIRC, it was slippery because of rain and cold…might be wrong though.

  374. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
    _____
    I like that young OFer they have been playing in right. I think you guys have a pretty good player there.

  375. MG August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Joe, I really like good chopped liver, but find myself using the same phrase occasionally, it’s just part of the New York lexicon, I guess…

    Bojo, I said lunch, not late night snack…

  376. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm

    Cool thanks, BoJo

  377. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    Unknown – in a short series, that is exactly what will happen. You will see the quickest hook……

  378. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    “Our bullpen is stacked.”
    ______
    They need a nickname…like the Mansfields

  379. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Here comes Noesi to mop up.

    Turns out Ubaldo wasn’t so bad….8 innings, 3 ERs, 6 Ks.

    Come on Twinkies.!

  380. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    If Soriano happens to opt out for a multiyear deal, that saves 13 million plus 13 million for Posada, 4 million for Marte, 4 million for Igawa, 2 million for A. Jones, 1.5 mil for Chavez, 1.5 mil for Garcia and 1 mil for Colon.

    Grand total = 40 million.

    Of course there will be raises and spots to fill…but the Yankees have some serious money to play with in the off-season.

    Will they spend it on somebody?

  381. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Reddick has been playing well. He will likely supplant Drew next year.

  382. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    MG August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    ___
    I didn’t mean eating it…I meant staying up wondering about the answer

    :-)

  383. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Soriano already has a multiyear deal? Is anyone going to beat 13 mil a year for him?

  384. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    He’s just about supplanted Drew this year I think.

  385. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    This Trumbeau kid is going to be a good combo with their other 1B next year in giving Angels some real power in their line-up. They have some good young players coming up too.

  386. Captain Clutch August 10th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    Now Girardi will get nervous with a 6 run lead and get Mo up….

  387. Yanks78 August 10th, 2011 at 9:45 pm

    “Soriano already has a multiyear deal? Is anyone going to beat 13 mil a year for him?”

    Maybe he can get 3/$24-27 or something

  388. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Reddick hitting: .329 .375 .538 .913 in the majors
    Was hitting: .230 .333 .508 .841 in the minors.

    Just a little Montero lesson for everyone

  389. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Reddick–yeah–that’s the kid. Really like what I have seen from him.

  390. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Will Drew make the post season roster? Not just the Yankees with that type of decision to make (Posada).

  391. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    Maybe he can get 3/$24-27 or something

    Why would he take 3/27 over 2/27?

  392. EA August 10th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    “Now Girardi will get nervous with a 6 run lead and get Mo up….”

    lol was just thinking that

  393. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    I am thinking it would be just fine if Soriano opted out. Only problem I see is Joba basically is going to be out for the whole year again next year. I know they say he might be back mid-season but realistically that won’t happen.

    Maybe Wade can really step in and take Soriano’s spot if he opts out…

  394. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    I can’t seem to remember names tonight…oh well…too tired.

    Who is the Angels kid who is out for year…Cuban?

  395. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:49 pm

    Quick bring AJ in to face Mathis, jk

  396. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Joba will still be recovering next year. Just look at Joe Nathan. He’s well enough to make the roster, but he’s not near the pitcher he was. Give him time, though, before writing him off.

    It will take Joba until the 2013 season to have his strength back in his arm. It stinks, but that’s the way it is.

  397. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    I don’t know if a team would offer it but he’d surely take 4/40 and possibly 3/33.

    He’s guaranteed 2 years 25 million exactly.

  398. UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm

    Morales

  399. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    I think Joba will be back next year, Joe Nathan is old.

  400. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    Joe,

    Probably so…..he should be pitching next year but as you say he probably wont be full strength until 13…..he’s still young though..

  401. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 pm
    mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
    _____
    I like that young OFer they have been playing in right. I think you guys have a pretty good player there.
    —————–

    Yeah, Reddick has played really well. Kalish, who got injured earlier this year was the “heir apparent” OFer, but injuries happen. Given the current RS OF, somebody will have to be traded – Either Ellsbury, Kalish or Reddick. I hope Ellsbury stays, but his cost is growing with every hit.

  402. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    UnKnown August 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
    Morales
    ___
    Thank you!

  403. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    Great win. Hooray offense

  404. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    jerkface – I’d be happy to be proven wrong. I, personally, am just expecting him to take that long.

  405. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:50 pm
    Joba will still be recovering next year. Just look at Joe Nathan. He’s well enough to make the roster, but he’s not near the pitcher he was. Give him time, though, before writing him off.

    It will take Joba until the 2013 season to have his strength back in his arm. It stinks, but that’s the way it is.
    _____
    I wonder if Rich Plat Plasma will speed his recovery. New procedure might change things.

  406. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 9:54 pm

    Nice win!

  407. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    The Sox should sell high on Reddick and keep Kalish. Kalish’s value is down. If you trade Ellsbury, you’re leaning to heavily on both Reddick and Kalish.

    The Sox could sign Reyes and use Lowrie + Reddick + Kalish to pick up a big RF like Kemp.

    They can afford both Reyes and Kemp with all the money they have coming off the books.

  408. Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Bojo – I don’t know enough about the procedure to have an opinion. Is Joba a good candidate for it? Potential risks? Is it always successful, what’s the chance of an untoward outcome?

    In Colon’s case, he had nothing to lose as far as his career went. With Joba, the success rate with conventional TJ surgery is already pretty good (at least 85% liklihood of good recovery, I think, is the reported data).

  409. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Blackbun outdueling Lester in the 6th. (2-0) almost didn’t want to mention it for fear of the Jinx.

  410. EA August 10th, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Nice win, nice job by Nova – very efficient until the 7th inning.

  411. RS August 10th, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Just imagine if we got Joba, Feliciano, and Marte back next year and still had Rivera, Robertson, Soriano, and Wade :O

  412. Benny Blanco August 10th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    11-4 for Nova….3.85 era.

  413. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    Joe from Long Island August 10th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
    Bojo – I don’t know enough about the procedure to have an opinion. Is Joba a good candidate for it? Potential risks? Is it always successful, what’s the chance of an untoward outcome?

    In Colon’s case, he had nothing to lose as far as his career went. With Joba, the success rate with conventional TJ surgery is already pretty good (at least 85% liklihood of good recovery, I think, is the reported data).
    ___
    As I understand it from research I once had to do for writing about it, the RPP procedure simpl speeds recovery–as opposed to the stem cell and RPP procedures Colon had…It has been used more in oral surgery (which is where I researched it for) with good success and no downside.

    It will be interesting to see if they used it with Joba and what the results might be.

  414. EA August 10th, 2011 at 10:16 pm

    Nova is 12-0 with a 3.47 ERA in starts that he has the lead

    He is the Anti-AJ lol

  415. RS August 10th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    The Twins let the Sox score an unearned run after a 2-out error, but they get Gonzalez out. 2-1 lead

  416. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
    The Sox should sell high on Reddick and keep Kalish. Kalish’s value is down. If you trade Ellsbury, you’re leaning to heavily on both Reddick and Kalish.

    The Sox could sign Reyes and use Lowrie + Reddick + Kalish to pick up a big RF like Kemp.

    They can afford both Reyes and Kemp with all the money they have coming off the books.
    ————————

    I tend to agree with you Hitman, but the RS need to make some tough decisions – No way they have a $70 million OF which would be the case if they go for a high-end RFer. Ellsbury becomes a FA in 2 years and will require what will be a very expensive contract. They’ll have to to with a home grown prospect at either CF or RF IMO to keep costs down (relative to their spending). The RS don’t have a true CFer now that Westmoreland is injured, so that leaves RF. Keep an eye on AA Portland prospect Alex Hassan, who might be a dark horse pick – He’s a high OBP RH bat with decent OF skills.

  417. Bo knows August 10th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    Sanchez 2 for 3 today – the two hits both HRs.

  418. stuart a August 10th, 2011 at 10:21 pm

    did not see the game. heard sterling and waldman for 3 hours.

    obviously nova is starting over the blond hillbilly. wierd no strikeouts and the 7th inning implosion.

    any win is a good win…

    grandy has mvp type #’s for sure.

  419. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 10:24 pm

    Maine,

    The Sox could easily go high end RF and keep Kalish for CF in 2 years. They can start working him in as the 4th OF next year with Crawford, Ellsbury and Kemp.

    Reddick is a nice chip to build a package around for Kemp.

    Keeping Kalish gives you a cheap successor to Ellsbury in CF.

    You can add Reyes and Kemp and really stick it to the Yankees with your lineup.

  420. ZMAN August 10th, 2011 at 10:27 pm

    Reyes
    Ellsbury
    Pedroia
    Gonzalez
    Kemp
    Youkallis
    Ortiz
    Crawford
    Salty

    Wow.

    And they have gold glove defense at every position except catcher.

  421. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    Cano has a Posada figurine in his locker.

    Solidarity!

  422. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 10:33 pm

    Does Posada also have a Posada figurine in his locker?

  423. Asd August 10th, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    Oh come on twins! Can’t you hold a stupid lead?

  424. blake August 10th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    That’s about a 130-140 million dollar lineup ……..unless Boston changes their stance on the luxury tax they aren’t doing that. The Yankees will be all over Kemp if he makes it to free agency.

  425. m August 10th, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    The 4th Red Sox MVP candidate just tied it up in Minny.

    Minny has lost late leads in all the games in this series.

  426. kd August 10th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    gary sanchez tearing it up…. does he go to aa this season or next?

  427. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Speaking about leads, the Rays score 5 in bottom 9th against Soria to win 8-7

  428. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 10:37 pm

    Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
    Maine,

    The Sox could easily go high end RF and keep Kalish for CF in 2 years. They can start working him in as the 4th OF next year with Crawford, Ellsbury and Kemp.

    Reddick is a nice chip to build a package around for Kemp.

    Keeping Kalish gives you a cheap successor to Ellsbury in CF.

    You can add Reyes and Kemp and really stick it to the Yankees with your lineup.
    ————————-

    You make a valid point Brett, but the RS don’t have nearly the financial flexibilty you might think – Obviously the RS FO need to make some tough decisions, but if they choose to keep Ortiz and Paplebon, their financial flexibilty becomes difficult with the pay increases to Pedroia, Youk and AGON. Planning ahead for Ellsbury is difficult if they bring on another big contract in RF – Particulary if they maintain the current team salary.

  429. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 10:38 pm

    gary sanchez is in low A, he will go to A+ next season. AA maybe the year after or year and a half after. He isn’t really ‘tearing it up’

  430. bruceb August 10th, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Rays walk off win. Twins and Mariners sure to collapse in later innings. We aren’t getting much help from anywhere this week.

  431. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    Kalish has been brought up as a corner OFer, and Ellsbury has performed well at CF – I’m not sure they’d be willing to give up a stud CFer for a stud RFer….

  432. blake August 10th, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    Granderson has almost caught Gonzalez in RBI and he’s well ahead of him in homers and runs scored…..OPS is similar as well .960 vs. 946. Not to mention that Granderson has 22 steals and is probably going to be a 30-30 guy….and plays CF. If he gets his BA up closer to .290 then he’s got a legit shot at MVP

  433. pkyankfan69 August 10th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    The Sox having like 20 MVP hopefulls also gives Grandy a boost over Gonzo

  434. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 10:45 pm

    Maine,

    The Sox can ditch Papelbon and promote Bard, no?

    Do they have to give Ortiz big money? DH’s are dime a dozen.

  435. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    Current MVP leaders are probably Gonzalez, Ellsbury and Granderson

  436. Nick in SF August 10th, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Sox best MVP candidate is Jed Hoyer, no?

  437. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 10:45 pm
    Maine,

    The Sox can ditch Papelbon and promote Bard, no?

    Do they have to give Ortiz big money? DH’s are dime a dozen.
    —————————–

    Yes, they could promote Bard, but that would create a big hole at the EIG. Had Jenks performed as advertised I think Theo might be far more willing to go in that direction – But as it is, I bet Paplebon gets a 3 yr deal.

    As for Ortiz – What would you pay for a DH providing his numbers? I haven’t checked the numbers lately, but he’s got to be among the best DH’s in the business. Whether he’ll accept a 2-yr deal seems to be the question. Lavarnway is waiting in AAA, but he certainly doesn’t have the pedigree of Ortiz.

  438. pkyankfan69 August 10th, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    ESPN’s current rankings for the AL MVP race:

    1. Adrian Gonzalez
    2. Jacoby Ellsbury
    3. Jose Bautista
    4. Dustin Pedroia
    5. Miguel Cabrera
    6. Ham Sandwich
    7. Curtis Granderson

  439. ZMAN August 10th, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    “Granderson has almost caught Gonzalez in RBI and he’s well ahead of him in homers and runs scored…..OPS is similar as well .960 vs. 946. Not to mention that Granderson has 22 steals and is probably going to be a 30-30 guy….and plays CF. If he gets his BA up closer to .290 then he’s got a legit shot at MVP”

    Confirmation bias will go against Granderson. All the writers already had Gonzo as the MVP in spring training… talking about how he would have 100 XBH in Fenway, hit 50 HRs, triple crown, etc. Even if he hasn’t done all that, he still is having a great year, leading the league in Average and RBIs and has a lot of visibility.

    Bautista is the real one being overlooked in these conversations though. The guy is on pace to lead the league in HRs, OBP, SLG, and OPS while playing a premium position, yet he is barely mentioned in these conversations.

  440. tyanksfan36 August 10th, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    Jerkface

    I highly doubt Gary Sanchez starts his year in Tampa next year. He needs a lot of work defensively and with JR Murphy losing the last month and a half in Tampa to a broken foot, I doubt they promote him to AA next season right off the bat after only spending about a month in A+. They might make a move promotion wise at the ASB though.

  441. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 11:09 pm

    pkyankfan69 August 10th, 2011 at 10:57 pm
    ESPN’s current rankings for the AL MVP race:

    1. Adrian Gonzalez
    2. Jacoby Ellsbury
    3. Jose Bautista
    4. Dustin Pedroia
    5. Miguel Cabrera
    6. Ham Sandwich
    7. Curtis Granderson
    ___
    Well–Ham Sandwich isn’t chopped liver….

  442. Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Good stuff, maybe they could Tandem Sanchez and Murphy like Romine/Montero. Either way I dont see him in AA next year :)

  443. BoJo August 10th, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    Bautista is the real one being overlooked in these conversations though. The guy is on pace to lead the league in HRs, OBP, SLG, and OPS while playing a premium position, yet he is barely mentioned in these conversations.
    ____
    I’ll be watching BB’s numbers now that the sign stealing issue is becoming more well known. Let’s see if he still puts up the same pace or if he starts hitting at road pace.

  444. LGY August 10th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Excellent

    A couple of guys who were up to no good:

    http://nomaas.org/2011/08/a-co.....o-no-good/

  445. Bronx Jeers August 10th, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    Hoyer’s being immortalized with his own plaque on the Freedom Trail. A true American patriot.

  446. I Am Winning August 10th, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    ESPN thinks 3 Red Sox members belong on the top 4 for the MVP race at this point in time? If 3 members are that significantly contributing to the team, than neither of them deserve it because it’s more of a team effort, than one player carrying the team the most.

  447. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 11:20 pm

    RS lose 5-2 with help from our old friend Aceves!

  448. austinmac August 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    This crowd is much funnier after a win. Possibly, my sense of humor is better.

  449. tyanksfan36 August 10th, 2011 at 11:33 pm

    Jerkface

    Maybe I should have clarified. I dont expect Murphy to be in AA next season.

  450. hardwired7 August 10th, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    David Ortiz has a Pedroia figurine in his locker.

    No, wait, that actually is Dustin Pedroia. My bad.

  451. mainesoxfan August 10th, 2011 at 11:41 pm

    There are almost 50 games left in the season – As it stand there are several RS players in contention for MVP award – Who knows what will happen down the stretch. Many great players in contention IMO…

  452. m August 10th, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Who knows what will happen? ESPn does.

  453. West Coast Yankee Fan August 11th, 2011 at 12:02 am

    “A tightened-up baseball postseason schedule will start Sept. 30 with a pair of AL playoff games. This will mark the first time since the 1915 World Series that the major league postseason will begin on a Friday.

    This year’s schedule does not include any off-days between games while a series is in one city. Last year, the Reds and Phillies had an off-day between Games 1 and 2 in Philadelphia. The World Series will open in the home of the National League champion on Wednesday, Oct. 19.” — ESPN

  454. West Coast Yankee Fan August 11th, 2011 at 12:04 am

    Tori Hunter after today’s game commenting on Ivan Nova:

    “He has really good stuff,” the Angels’ Torii Hunter said. “The Yankees really have something special with him.”

  455. Dill Pickler August 11th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    On the MVP race, where is the guy who cleans Karl Ravech’s underwear every time The Nation score a run? He’s got to be up in the top 3, right?

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