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“He just happened to throw a ball that didn’t cut”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 10, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

After Bobby Abreu homered off Mariano Rivera last night, Yankees manager Joe Girardi asked his pitcher and catcher for the details.

“I asked about the pitch that Bobby hit, and they said it just didn’t cut,” Girardi said. “It just didn’t cut for whatever reason.”

Sometimes cutters don’t cut — even for Rivera — and sometimes that’s the only explanation necessary. But the Yankees closer is 41 years old, and he’s now coughed up a crucial run in back-to-back games. It’s hard not to wonder whether he’s becoming more and more human.

Career ERA: 2.23
2011 ERA: 2.23

Career WHIP: 1.000
2011 WHIP: 0.99

Career K per 9 IP: 8.21
2011 K per 9 IP: 7.92

Career BB per 9 IP: 2.05
2011 BB per 9 IP: 1.02

Career OpBA: .211
2011 OpBA: .243

Career HR per 9 IP: 0.5
2011 HR per 9 IP: 0.4

Two differences jump out: Rivera’s basically stopped walking people, but he’s giving up hits more frequently. In terms of base runners, it basically evens out — hence the almost identical WHIP — but there is some statistical evidence that Rivera’s giving up solid contact a little more often. His line drive rate and fly ball rate are climbing, but his batting average on balls in play also suggests some bad luck.

“I haven’t really noticed that (hitters are squaring up the ball more often),” Girardi said. “You look at the first hit he gave up, it was a jam shot that was hit between the second baseman and the right fielder. He just happened to throw a ball that didn’t cut. That was the biggest difference.”

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108 Responses to ““He just happened to throw a ball that didn’t cut””

  1. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Mo will be fine….his velocity looks good and the cutter is still nasty most of the time. He got squeezed last night and made a mistake to Abreu…….he blew two straight saves about this time last year and there was the same talk.

  2. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 am
    Wang-

    At least Grandy’s brain farts are rare.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    And sweet-smelling…sorry. ;)

  3. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    I’m not worried about Mo in the slightest. He always goes through a little rough patch and then goes on an assassin like run. ;)

  4. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Blake-

    A bump in the road.

    Or a pothole.

    Whatever.

    :)

  5. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Abreu is a smart hitter…….he knew 3-1 Mo would try to jam him inside and he guessed right…..opened up and got the barrel on it. It was pretty obvious he guessed location there.

  6. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Plus, on Sunday night, if Nunez gets back to third in time, chances are that game is won.

  7. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 9:15 am

    “He just happened to throw a ball that didn’t cut. That was the biggest difference.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I mentioned this last night. That’s what I’ve been noticing more this year. That, and the increase in fly balls. With Mo, it used to just be easy infield outs or jammed shots that awkwardly dropped into the outfield. (Like that hit we all remember from the 2001 World Series that ended the game.)

  8. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    We need a win. I think I got spoiled with that long winning streak…

    Gotta log off. You guys have a good one.

  9. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    If Soriano can stay healthy the BP is one my least areas of concern on the Yankees.

    The have numerous guys with under 2 ERA’s.

    Best BP in baseball.

    It hiccupped a little lately. No big deal.

  10. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    edit: they. sorry.

  11. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    I don’t have any issues on the way AJ pitched last night. He just lost his release point late in the game, but IMO pitched well.

    What I am concerned about is Martin. He is totally overworked & having to catch AJ is like a fighter getting a pounding over & over.

    So the logic here doesn’t make sense to me. Martin must catch as much as possible because the BUC isn’t any good: as he can’t hit & only throws out 8% of the runners. So Martin must catch. But if Martin catches too much he will not hit or play defense either. Somewhere I heard about this all-world hitter named Montero that could at least spell Martin twice a week & easily throw out more than 8% of the runners.

    It is such a dilema!

  12. RadioKev August 10th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    No baseball player is perfect, but Rivera is as good as it gets. 41 years old and still dominating almost every outing. I can’t imagine he’ll fall off significantly before the end of next year.

    I think our biggest worry is will Robertson live up to that standard of consistency? Hopefully he’ll slot right in once we say goodbye to Mo.

  13. Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    I think we’ve been hearing that Mo is caving to age every year since 2001. Its all gravy baby.

  14. 86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Martin basically has to have the day off after chasing AJ’s crap in the dirt all night.

    Amazing how low the bar has dropped with AJ — 6 innings and 4 runs is now acceptable.

    It’s time for Girardi to grow a pair and do to AJ when he’s done to Jorge — park him. At this point I’d rather see Hughes, Noesi or Sidney Ponson out there

  15. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    I think our biggest worry is will Robertson live up to that standard of consistency?

    ================================

    Highly unlikely that ANYONE will live up to Rivera’s standard of consistency.

  16. cs in la August 10th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    Mo always has a rough patch this time of year and everyone wonders if its the beginning of the end. Its like clockwork, for whatever reason, he gives up a few runs n mid-august. Then he makes us all look stupid for ever doubting him.

  17. brownies August 10th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    If more runs are scored earlier in the game against good pitchers like beckett and haren Mo would have a cushion or wouldn’t even be in there. Its the offense vs good pitching. All the time it seems. Kevin Long, why is the offense so constipated vs good pitching?

  18. RadioKev August 10th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    6 innings and 4 runs is pretty acceptable from a 5th starter, actually. Nothing to write home about, or be proud of, but nothing to be particularly upset about. I think the problem is we know AJ can do better, especially if he could control “the big inning.”

  19. 86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    Because that’s what good pitching does

  20. 86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    An ERA of 6.00 is not acceptable from anyone in MLB. That’s a hideously low standard

  21. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    When his Mo-ness departs the scene there will be a hole the size of Jupiter left behind.

    And no one will ever be able to fill it completely.

    He’s a one of a kind. A totally unique individual. The Platinum standard.

    No other has feet big enough to fill his shoes.

    Pity the poor Man who follows in his wake.

  22. RadioKev August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:31 am
    I think our biggest worry is will Robertson live up to that standard of consistency?

    ================================

    Highly unlikely that ANYONE will live up to Rivera’s standard of consistency.
    ——-

    That’s kind of my point.

  23. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    The numbers have gone from otherworldly to merely very good, but Rivera’s BAA and OPS against vs. LHB’s have climbed each year since 2008.

  24. RadioKev August 10th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:34 am
    An ERA of 6.00 is not acceptable from anyone in MLB. That’s a hideously low standard
    ——-

    Whose ERA is that?

  25. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Its the offense vs good pitching. All the time it seems. Kevin Long, why is the offense so constipated vs good pitching?

    ====================================

    Most offenses are. Good pitching usually trumps good hitting.

  26. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Whose ERA is that?
    ================

    Last night, it was Burnett’s

  27. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    It isn’t that the bar has dropped for AJ. He pitched great until the 6th where he lost his release point and struggled badly. He was dominating before that. It happens. Bumgarner struggled with his control & release point all year & is 7-11 (W-L) but he just dominated the Pirates last night striking out 10. He looked so bad earlier that the Giants were thinking of moving him to the pen.

    Hopefully, AJ will build on 5 great innings instead of worrying about the one bad. The Yanks really need AJ to find it to really go deep in the playoffs. I am rooting for him!!

  28. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    JonLaneNYC Rivera allowed runs in consecutive games for the 1st time since April. He’s 1-2, 2.23 w/29 saves. Stick the fork in him. He’s done #sarcasm

  29. MaineYankee August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Erin August 10th, 2011 at 8:46 am
    Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 am
    It didn?t even really feel like the game was over on a play that like. Very weird, indeed!

    ****************

    I actually asked my TV “what just happened?” lol

    ——————————————————————————————-

    I’d be concerned if it answered back. :D

  30. RadioKev August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:37 am
    Whose ERA is that?
    ================

    Last night, it was Burnett’s
    ——

    Hasn’t CC Sabathia had worse single night ERAs? I’m sorry, but what’s the point in citing a single night ERA? Aren’t averages only as good as the sample size?

  31. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 9:45 am

    MaineYankee August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    I?d be concerned if it answered back.

    *******************

    No worries-it didn’t. :P

  32. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Ray:

    Think that the Bumgarner/Burnett comp is a huge stretch. Complete apples and oranges. Bumgarner is 21 years old and growing into the job. Burnett is 34, well into the back 9 of a career that has been characterized by chronic underachievement.

    I think we all hope Burnett can “build on 5 great innings instead of worrying about the one bad”, but nearly 13 years of history suggests we shouldn’t be holding our collective breath waiting for it to happen.

  33. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Hasn’t CC Sabathia had worse single night ERAs? I’m sorry, but what’s the point in citing a single night ERA? Aren’t averages only as good as the sample size?

    ==========================

    Sure. I don’t think of Burnett as a 6.00 ERA guy. I think of him as a 4.6 ERA guy.

  34. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Maybe Mo reaches into his bag of tricks and pulls out the change up one of these days against lefties.

  35. MaineYankee August 10th, 2011 at 9:49 am

    Erin August 10th, 2011 at 9:45 am
    MaineYankee August 10th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    I?d be concerned if it answered back.

    *******************

    No worries-it didn’t.

    ——————————————————–

    I’m glad.

    If it had I’d be concerned about you.

  36. 86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    You were the one who said 4 runs in 6 innings was acceptable. That’s a 6.00 ERA and that’s totally UNacceptable.

    AJ throws a few decent innings and some people get a woody. He doesn’t build on anything. The crummy inning is inevitable and the result is predictably mediocre.

    In his last 10 starts he’s gone 7 innings allowing 3 runs or less (my definition of a quality start) exactly once.

  37. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    In former Yankees news, Scott Proctor has been shown the door in Atlanta. His replacement? Arodys Vizcaino.

  38. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Thanks MaineYankee.

    ;)

  39. Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Sometimes its Uncle Joe that frustrates me more than AJ because I almost feel like quit while he’s ahead.

    I get that pitchers are going to be cruising for a few innings and then can turn in a bad one. Of course anyone could understand that happening. But with AJ it happens basically every game. So I don’t really care at this point if AJ is dealing into the 5th inning, I want him pulled after. No reason to believe you can squeeze a couple more outs from him, get someone else in there – especially with our pen being such a strength.

  40. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    86-

    Why do I get this feeling that if AJ fell down a manhole you wouldn’t care.

    :)

  41. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    If AJ gave the Yankees 4 ERs in 6 innings every single start he’d probably win a lot of games for them…..he’d have a 6 ER but he’d probably have a better Won/Loss record than how he arives at his current near 5 ERA.

  42. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 9:39 am
    86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    It isn’t that the bar has dropped for AJ. He pitched great until the 6th where he lost his release point and struggled badly. He was dominating before that. It happens. Bumgarner struggled with his control & release point all year & is 7-11 (W-L) but he just dominated the Pirates last night striking out 10. He looked so bad earlier that the Giants were thinking of moving him to the pen.

    Hopefully, AJ will build on 5 great innings instead of worrying about the one bad. The Yanks really need AJ to find it to really go deep in the playoffs. I am rooting for him!!
    ——-

    I hope he will build on it too and I think he will. He pitched well for 5 innings, getting out of trouble w/o much problem. He was 1 out away from getting out of the 6th & had good control until the intentional walk and what happened afterwards. Girardi should have let him pitch and not micromanage there.

    I think the main problem for him is the monkey on his back that’s getting heavier. I think he’ll bounce back and pitch well in his next start, which would do wonders to removing that dreaded monkey. After that, I think he’ll be set free to pitch with ease and start to dominate again. Because the yankees really do need him going forward. So he has to be given the chance to succeed to put this all behind him.

    I’m not overly concerned about MO. he goes through these stretches. I think he may have to work out mechanical issues because he’s missing his spots and his cutter looks flat at times.

  43. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Mell-

    Just wait till JAP hears about that.

    :(

  44. blake August 10th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Who cares if they traded Vizcaino……they got Boonie for him ;)

  45. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    86-

    Also meant to say that in ancient times when I was growing up people also had “woodies” you could drive in.

    They sometimes even had surf boards attached to them.

    :)

  46. NYYanksFan August 10th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Did Cave sign?

    JakeCave8Jake Cave
    Accidentally just bumped into A-Rod in the doorway of the training room #nbd

  47. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Can’t wait to have A-rod back. I think it will help Teix hit more consistently. Unfortunately Teix can’t carry the team. Also disappointed in his lack of hitting against the redsox. :(

  48. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    JakeCave8Jake Cave
    Accidentally just bumped into A-Rod in the doorway of the training room #nbd

    ***************************

    awesome. :)

  49. Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    …..you can get “woodie” through the filter?!

    I <3 LoHud.

  50. mick August 10th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    joe would never be disloyal and pull aj after 5 good ones or the 1st sign of trouble
    he might as well just skip his starts
    aj is here to stay as the regular season is a joke
    its the playoffs that matter
    i’d like to see joe have the cajones to leave him off the roster
    if hughes and nova emerge it could come down to garcia or aj being left off
    or both

  51. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Shame-I was thinking the same thing. :lol:

  52. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Mell August 10th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    While I concur that Bumgarner is still young (age 22 as of Aug 1st), the example is still relevant for a playoff contending team. The Yanks need Aj just like the SFG need Bumgarner to be the #2 or #3 SP. You have to weather the storms. AJ pitched good earlier in the year. He pitched awful a few times as well.

    There is a very fine line between pitching well & bad. It is simply a matter of 2 to 6 pitches a game that make a difference. AJ last night threw a pitch in the dirt & Martin didn’t block it. (BTW, see earlier comment on Martin being tired & beat up) It was a key pitch that AJ needs in his repertoire to be successful. The intentional walk plays on one’s pysche & some a lot more than others. Note, I haven’t met a pitcher yet that didn’t think he could get any hitter out at any time & I have known a lot of pitchers!! LOL! To me that said Joe G didn’t have confidence in AJ even though it made sense from a numbers point of view. Having to throw pitches deliberately different from your normal motion and release points (Again this is what AJ has struggled with for years now) was a bad idea IMO.

    As a former Catcher, Pitcher & Manager I want my players to attack the hitters and I tried to boost confidence in them especially when I was pitching LOL! It was the wrong move by Joe G & Orel H even said that as well on ESPN.

  53. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    I totally agree LD! When someone is having issues with their pysche there is no good reason to question it. BTW, why did Joe G go to the mound to tell AJ to do it instead of pitching coach? (I think I remember that right.) Also, with someone like AJ, I’d let him make the decision & perhaps he did.

  54. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    If AJ’s psyche is so weak that he can’t deal with being asked to IBB someone in order to pitch to someone more easily handled or to set up a particular play, that’s the bottom of the barrel, if you ask me.

  55. 108 stitches August 10th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    No issues with Mo. The self destruction of Burnett after the 4th inning is as predictable as Christmas on Dec. 25th each year. Nothing different for his next start which he should be skipped.

  56. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 10:22 am

    Rothschild made a visit to the mound during that inning. Don’t remember if Joe also went out.

  57. mick August 10th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    whatever nervousness or angst he has from his past AJ can’t seem to get over it
    when it gets a little dicey he goes to pieces
    the calming effect of martin and rotschild can only reach so far
    and not back to his childhood

  58. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    IMO Aj was focused on being successful innings 1 thru 5, but after the Joe G visit he was focused on not screwing up. Stonewall Jackson once told a worried General before a battle to not take counsel of your fears. I believe AJ’s issues are quite that simple.

  59. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Wait-Girardi went out to the mound? I must have missed that-I only saw Rothschild go out.

  60. mick August 10th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    people thought i was crazy wanting him to get shelled
    they shoot horses , don’t they?
    it’s a matter of time before they give up on him
    maybe this winter
    they are nursing him in case they need him
    pray for hughes and nova to step up…

  61. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    Erin -

    that’s what I remember, too.

  62. mick August 10th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    joe went out the 1st time
    jeter did most of the talking

  63. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    I seriously don’t remember Joe going out to the mound. Huh.

  64. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    I only heard ESPN say that Girardi told AJ to IBB the hitter. So I didn’t see who went there.

  65. mick August 10th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    i just hope they don’t pitch him out of obligation
    esp in the playoffs
    if nova, hughes and freddy have been better going in
    i hope they are not slighted

  66. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    JonLaneNYC Mariano Rivera finished? Please. http://bit.ly/nOzbkR #Yankees

  67. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 10:30 am
    I seriously don?t remember Joe going out to the mound. Huh.

    *********************

    Me either. LOL

  68. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Dante19jr Awesome day at the park today. Really figuring things out in this everlasting grind and realizing things about myself in the process. Luv it

  69. 86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    I don’t dislike the guy at all, but he’s hurting the team and the fact that he looked really good for five innings doesn’t have any impact on me.

    I was watching the game and after the 5th inning I said to my wife: “betcha dinner out that he doesn’t go 7″

    The routine is tired and the hope that he’ll “put it together” no longer exists in my mind. I wouldn’t mind him missing a start or two or even going to the pen for awhile.

  70. 86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    gotta run — have a great day gang — hope Nova is super

  71. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:23 am
    IMO Aj was focused on being successful innings 1 thru 5, but after the Joe G visit he was focused on not screwing up. Stonewall Jackson once told a worried General before a battle to not take counsel of your fears. I believe AJ’s issues are quite that simple.
    ——

    I don’t recall if Joe went to the mound, but I agree with the sentiment. I would say the intentional walk not only had to make him reset the mechanics but put him in the “not screwing up” mode (like you said).

    It’s not as much a matter of having a fragile psyche as it is getting the monkey off his back. It’s not unlike a hitter, who goes through a prolonged slump & starts to doubt themselves. I recall Swisher’s earlier slump, the lack of smiling & joviality from him and watching him an an interview and tearing up. That’s why i think AJ just needs to have a good outing to free himself. I see this as very doable in his next start.

    I would like to see AJ bounce back quickly and cruise the rest of the way because that’s ultimately what’s best for the team. He has the playoff experience to win in important situations. So getting his confidence back is crucial.

    As much as I like Hughes, his performance against the rangers makes me doubt he can handle a big game. I didn’t mind the first game he blew, but the second one was just so….

  72. 108 stitches August 10th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 10:22 am
    Rothschild made a visit to the mound during that inning. Don’t remember if Joe also went out.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Girardi rarely goes to the mound except to take the ball and wait for the reliever. It’s best that Burnett never went to the mound after the 6th inning. The booes would have been heard crossing over the G W Bridge.

  73. Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    But LockDown what about the big relief appearances Hughes made in really big spots during the ’09 run? Or the game he pitched in the playoffs against the Twins in ’10?

    There was a time when Andy’s “big game” ability was being questioned early in his career.

  74. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    The problem the Yankees have had is somewhat like the Mariners under Lou Pinella years ago when they set a record for most wins in a season. The pitching was mostly a solid 4th pitcher grouping. They won during the season but got pounded during the every single pitch counts scrutiny of a playoff game. The Yanks have 1 ace, CC. They have 3 other potential aces in Colon, AJ & Hughes. They have a solid 4/5 SP in Garcia & Nova. In order for the Yanks to be successful they need 3 ACES. As everyone here knows, each of the 3 options for the 2 thru 3 ace spots are questionable.

    1. Does Colon have the stamina?
    2. Can Hughes crank it up and consistently hit his spots.
    3. Can AJ keep his mechanics/pysche.

    Nova is somewhat of a wildcard in that he has exceeded expectations and everyone wants to know if it is real. Garcia keeps plugging along, but he is very hittable and is not a 1 thru 4 playoof SP.

    So what do the Yankees need to do? Well they couldn’t find anyone to be the #2 guy via FA or Trade Deadline deal. So they are banking on 2 of 3 guys being fixable/rested. If they fail either Nova or Banelous will be the option moved forward.

  75. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 10:45 am
    But LockDown what about the big relief appearances Hughes made in really big spots during the ’09 run? Or the game he pitched in the playoffs against the Twins in ’10?

    There was a time when Andy’s “big game” ability was being questioned early in his career.
    ————–

    I’m referring to starting, not relief. I could see him in the bp this post and regaining his velocity for a full season next year.

    I didn’t consider beating the twins as pressure filled. The rangers games were filled with a lot more pressure and he bombed both times. Like I said, the first one didn’t bother me. But losing the second one made me question his ability to start a big game.

  76. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    teixeiramark25 Congratulations to @HarlemRBI Aztecas team for single-handedly raising over $1,000 for their team! http://t.co/vUmtnRb

  77. Kelvin August 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    LoHud sure does make my work day go faster

  78. 108 stitches August 10th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Outstanding stats (note the sarcasm)

    http://yankees.mlb.com/team/pl....._id=150359

  79. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    I am not concerned about Hughes’ ability to pitch in a big game as he has done that before & even excelled. I am concerned with him being physically ready to do so. I hope he gets ironed out and actually pitching as he needs work to be able to locate & gain confidence in his pitches, especially his curve.

  80. G. Love August 10th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    blake,

    I saw your post earlier about the blog being better than the pre-reg days and I have to say I agree with you. The racist, sexist garbage has stopped. There’s a good mix or prospect huggers and non to liven up the debate. I don’t think people should be afraid of knocking the players in here. I’ve been saying that for years. This is a place to vent after a tough loss.

    I respect trisha and the way she only sees good in the team even though I don’t always see it her way. I still like very much that a fan like her exists. I wish posters didn’t make it a mission to try to bring her down. She has a place here.

    The only thing I am realizing is there is a Red Sox troll in our midst pretending to be a Yankee fan who posts a lot. Another poster warned me about him in here and he was right. The guy is a major Red Sox fan but pretends to be a “Yankee Fan” on here day and night. It’s a little creepy but whatever…when we beat them in the playoffs if they make it to the ALCS he’ll have to swallow that. Not sure what happened to someone in life where they feel the need to pretend to be a fan of a team they hate day in day out. It’s bizarre.

    Other than that, wish CB, SJ, Doreen, etc. would all return regularly but can’t blame them if they are done with it. When I saw Pat M’s post last night I was surprised. I didn’t think last night was any worse than usual. stuart’s a bit much to take, but if you just scroll past him and ignore him it shouldn’t affect you.

  81. Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    I dunno man… 5 game series, first playoff start… I’m gonna go ahead and keep that one in consideration. Same goes for the relief stuff. Its still pressure and he still needed to rise to the occasion, which is what you’re questioning whether or not he can do.

    Lets see what he does in the future.

  82. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    G. Love August 10th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    The only thing I am realizing is there is a Red Sox troll in our midst pretending to be a Yankee fan who posts a lot.

    *********************

    I’m intrigued…. LoHud conspiracy!!!!

  83. Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    G Love – Agreed. This place has definitely been better aside from the loses of some good regulars.

    I think people sometimes end up resorting to personal attacks a bit too often, but thats mostly because half of us here have relationships with one another (good and bad) that go back a while..years even.

  84. bruceb August 10th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Not too many positives at the moment but I’ll give you one…Derek Jeter is batting .273 and drove in the tying runs last night with a two-out single. Amazing how his name doesn’t seem to crop up on this board quite so often these days! Need to win tonight and tomorrow to restore order in the universe because right now, the Red Sox, Rangers and Angels are hot.

  85. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    “especially his curve” should have been changeup! LOL!

  86. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 10:50 am
    ——

    You and I are on the same page in many respects. I think this is why they need AJ because they’re looking at the bigger picture. He is a guy, who despite what happens in the regular season, could win that big game for you in the post.

    Nova could really be the key if he proves to be the real deal.

    Hughes lack of velocity makes him a huge question mark this year. His bp appearance on sunday was lackluster to say the least. Missing his spots & his weak secondary stuff hurt him, which has been part of his problem. He’s part of the future. So I look to see him build up strength and hopefully get back on track for 2012 and beyond and reach his potential.

    Colon had a good FB but the sox managed to foul it off, even when he pushed it to 98. Forcing him to go to a slider that they stayed off of. Not sure how deep he can go against them. But it was telling that he didn’t get as many swings and misses on his FB that he usually does with other teams. If he works on his slider, he has the potential to have a big game against them, he certainly has the mindset.

  87. justinxdance27 August 10th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    The title of this post scares the crap out of me.

  88. blake August 10th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    G. Love,

    Don’t forget the impostering…..you couldn’t carry on a conversation because of either troll nonsense every other post or because you had no idea if who you were talking to was actually the real person. Its not perfect now by any strech but its the internet and people are going to post things that other people don’t agree with sometimes…….we have lost some good posters and I hope they come back one day……(CB has been around some lately)…..but we’ve also gained a few good ones recently as well.

  89. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I agree. We see the daily even moment and tear things apart for each game, at bat or even pitch. The Yanks are trying to win a WS in 2011 & are proceeding basically to do so on a big picture scale. I still question no Montero, but they probably have a plan for that as well. LOL!

  90. G. Love August 10th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Jeter looks so much better. If you’re watching these games you can see it. I even think he’s moving better in the field. The fact that he’s gone back to the RF approach makes me happy since that is his bread and butter. He’s going back to RF with authority again. He’s even laced a few foul balls down that RF line lately that were sure doubles.

    He came up last night and tied the game with a swing. Earlier in the season I would have bet money he’d fail there against a hard RH thrower fresh out of the pen, but he executed the at bat perfectly.

    A lot of my complaints (and others on here) about this weekend is guys like Tex, Cano and Swisher show a complete inability to situationally hit. They are just up there hacking.

    Jeter showed the old ability to hit to the situation and tied it up last night. I wish some of our middle of the order hitters learned something from him.

    I’ll give the Red Sox this much; Pedroia, Gonzalez, Youkilis, Ellsbury all seem to know when it’s not time to swing for the seats and when their role is to make contact and hit a hard fly ball to the OF to get a run in. I can’t say the same about Tex, Cano, Swisher right now. I feel like their approach at the plate is the same no matter what the situation.

  91. bruceb August 10th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    G. Love

    I’ll give the Red Sox this much; Pedroia, Gonzalez, Youkilis, Ellsbury all seem to know when it’s not time to swing for the seats and when their role is to make contact and hit a hard fly ball to the OF to get a run in. I can’t say the same about Tex, Cano, Swisher right now. I feel like their approach at the plate is the same no matter what the situation.

    Yes, Jeter looks as though he really believes he can hit again. But totally agree with you about the middle of the line up. They need to get back to basics and start hitting line drives.

  92. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    I’m not sure what’s taking Montero long to come up either. Is this about the Cervelli/CC combo that Girardi has forced on us, making it seem like Cervelli is CC’s personal catcher?

  93. austinmac August 10th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    Their is rarely, if ever, any reason for personal criticism. Criticize their play but not their person.

    I assure you no one makes the major leagues unless they work very hard and are ultra competitive.

  94. blake August 10th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    I think Derek may have had some other nagging thing that got better also while he was on the DL……that and he just got comfortable again with his old mechanics….whatever the reason……he does look a lot better.

  95. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    Jeter is looking much better. And I agree that the “swinging for the fences” mentality of some of our hitters is hurting this team.

  96. LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    OT: Not sure if any of you have ever seen Damages. I just started watching it and it’s really good. I loved the fractured component of this show.

  97. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    I get so tired of hearing someones paycheck means they need to use them crap. AJ makes money and it is guaranteed & that should be the end of it. The Yankees can afford the money although they may not like spending more. Quite frankly, AJ is needed by the Yankees to be successful in the playoffs. The stupid column on RAB about AJ to the BP is beyond idiotic! It must be a wimp of a reporter dishing out nonsense to try & get hits on a website. I kind of put that into the Pete category of saying ARod should be replaced with what’s his name, no-name player. It is just stupid & anti-Yankee hate crap. It oozzes out from the geniuses in their own minds people.

    AJ is an ace pitcher who is mechanically off a bit (yes just a little) & in the paraphrased words of a real genius “How can you pitch & think at the same time?”.

  98. G. Love August 10th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    The thing about Jeter is he should be able to go to RF for the rest of his career. Correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t approach basically require him to be a bit late on the pitch to go to RF? If he were losing bat speed he still should have been able to knock them the opposite way, right?

    Whatever it is he looks a lot better. .270-.280 I’ll take from him.

    I will not take .240 from Tex and proclaim him a great hitter. He’s not a great hitter anymore. He’s just a great power hitter. There’s a difference.

  99. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    and now….. some words of wisdom from Joba Chamberlain

    Joba_62 Morning everyone! Stand up for what u believe in even if ur standing alone. Dont let others stop u from being the person u really r!

  100. RayVT August 10th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    G. Love August 10th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    I think getting ARod back will help that come to fruition. I think these guys are trying hard to make up for ARod being out.

  101. pkyankfan69 August 10th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    LockDown August 10th, 2011 at 11:16 am
    I’m not sure what’s taking Montero long to come up either. Is this about the Cervelli/CC combo that Girardi has forced on us, making it seem like Cervelli is CC’s personal catcher?
    ————————-
    Cervelli is the Italian Henry Blanco except his defense is mediocre at best.

  102. Chip August 10th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    blake August 10th, 2011 at 11:18 am
    I think Derek may have had some other nagging thing that got better also while he was on the DL……that and he just got comfortable again with his old mechanics….whatever the reason……he does look a lot better.

    ————

    If you watch the Jeter 3K thing on HBO there’s a clip in there where he talks about how he used his time on the DL to work with Gary Denbo on some things.

    The undercurrent there (though not spoken) is that the two of them basically junked whatever changes Kevin Long had made to Derek’s approach over the winter/spring and got him back to being comfortable.

  103. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    The sun will come up tomorrow.

  104. pat August 10th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Gossip Break……… Photos of Alex’s new house under construction in Miami. Very modern architecture.

    http://casa.univision.com/deco.....meron-diaz

  105. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    New Post: Angels rookie called up for tonight’s game

    :arrow:

  106. Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Cervelli .364 over the past 28 days.

    http://www.baseball-reference......1&t=b

    This is a guy who hit .298, then .270.

    If he can hit around .270 and OPS around .700 he’s a darn good backup catcher. That being said, I hope they trade him in the off season.

  107. blake August 10th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Montero is going to love that short porch

  108. 4 NYY August 10th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    If all we have worry about is Mo, then we’re “In Like flint.”

    Also, Cano is getting very irritating. His lack of hustle on balls he hits in the infield is nonsense. If it’s okay for him, then it’s okay for everyone ! Then, what have we got ? He needs to be told !

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