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Postgame notes: “I wouldn’t change a lot that I did”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Aug 10, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A.J. Burnett has made seven starts since his last win. In six of them he’s allowed either three or four runs. No more, no less. In other words, we’ve seen this start before.

On a night that ended with two fairly stunning moments — Rivera giving up the homer, Granderson being picked off at first — the only thing stunning about Burnett’s outing was its predictability. He’s consistently given the Yankees starts they could win with a pretty good night at the plate, but Burnett has yet to pick this team up and end the winless streak himself.

“Of course it’s frustrating,” he said. “But I’m leaving it all on the field.”

Burnett was having a good night until the sixth. He said he wouldn’t beat himself up too much about the Bobby Abreu homer. “It’s two rows up,” he said. On the walk to Peter Bourjos, Burnett thought he “barely” missed the strike zone. The go-ahead, two-run double was a “pretty good hook” to Jeff Mathis, who came to the plate hitting .180 with one extra-base hit since July 2.

“I wouldn’t change a lot that I did,” Burnett said. “I pretty much pitched with conviction all night.”

As he’s done all year, Joe Girardi left no doubt that Burnett’s spot in the rotation is secure, and Burnett finally seemed agitated when he was asked whether he would expect to be the Yankees No. 2 starter if the playoffs started tomorrow.

“I’m not answering that question,” he said. “I’ll answer that question when the playoffs start. We’ve got a long time.”

Here’s Burnett.

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If Burnett’s outing was perfectly predictable, the ninth inning was anything but.

Mariano Rivera had not allowed a home run at Yankee Stadium since May 16 of last year. He’d allowed a home run to an ex-teammate only once in his career (Mike Stanley in 1998 according to ESPN Stats and Information). Just two days after his fifth blown save of the season, Rivera took his second loss.

“It can happen any time,” Rivera said. “You have to make sure that a pitch gets there, and this time I didn’t.”

As for Curtis Granderson, there were runners at the corners with two outs and Mark Teixeira at the plate as the winning run. The Angels had already shown the fake-to-third pickoff move twice, and Granderson thought he was playing the odds.

“You never really see too many teams do it that many times in an inning, so the odds are he’s probably not going to do it again,” Granderson said. “There’s two strikes there. I don’t have too many options to get to second base. I just wanted to make it one more step closer, to go ahead and make it into scoring position.”

Here’s Rivera.

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Here’s Granderson.

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• The Yankees have lost three in a row for the first time since that three-game sweep against Boston in early June. They haven’t won a season series against the Angels since 2003 and have a 47-56 record against them since 2000, their only losing record against an AL opponent in that span.

• Burnett leads the league with 15 wild pitches. “Russ blocks that 99 percent of the time,” he said.

• Burnett is winless in his last 14 starts in the month of August, going 0-9 with a 6.72 ERA. That stretch started on August 29, 2008, so obviously it includes all of his August starts with the Yankees.

• Granderson leads the league with 101 runs scored after hitting his 29th home run of the season. He’s one shy of his career high of 30 homers, which he reached with Detroit in 2009.

• Brett Gardner has now stolen 22 consecutive bases without being caught. That’s the longest Yankees streak since Derek Jeter stole 22 straight from July 20, 2001 to June 2, 2002. According to Elias, it’s the longest single-season streak by a Yankee since Rickey Henderson stole 28 straight in 1988.

• Jeter has 16 RBI in his past 16 games. Since returning from the disabled list he’s hitting .303 with eight doubles, one triple, two home runs and 21 RBI in 29 games.

• By the way, Jeter had 20 RBI in his 62 games this season.

• Andruw Jones was 0-for-7 with a walk as a pinch hitter this season before singling in the eighth.

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190 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I wouldn’t change a lot that I did””

  1. stuart a August 10th, 2011 at 12:53 am

    • Burnett is winless in his last 14 starts in the month of August, going 0-9 with a 6.72 ERA. That stretch started on August 29, 2008, so obviously it includes all of his August starts with the Yankees.

    what more can you say. he is BAD. if this guy is a #2 starter I am a starting forward for the dallas mavericks………

    this guy is the type who will break your heart every time. he is clueless… I would change nothign, no regrets. you can’t make up this stupid. he gave up a 2 run double to the track to gustavo molina(basically)

  2. Abomb82 August 10th, 2011 at 12:58 am

    AJ still has nasty stuff though. It’s not too late to learn how to harness his stuff and pitch. Which is why it is tough to get rid of him.

  3. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 1:04 am

    Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 12:32 am

    I have to agree with WCYC: unfortunately, you can get to Mo these days. I don’t see this changing a whole lot. Yes, he had “episodes” like this in years past, but we’re not talking about the same Mo. He’s 41. We’ve got to acknowledge that fact and quit bringing out our rose-colored glasses when watching him.
    =================

    So, because Mo is 41, we have to assume that any hiccups in his performance are age-related? That’s the only rational conclusion? Anybody who thinks otherwise is wearing rose-colored glasses. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see it that way. There is no meaningful difference in any of his statistics this year compared with his career averages or with previous years’ performance. This isn’t even his worst year–depending on how you look at it, 1997, 1998, or 2003 were worse years for him statistically than 2011. Yes, Mo is getting older. However, it isn’t at all clear that Mo is anywhere near done. Let’s not prematurely start writing his obituary.

  4. stuart a August 10th, 2011 at 1:05 am

    abomb 82 do you understand what you are saying. the guy is 33 or 34 years old in the league for over 10 years and has won zilch.

    good stuff and bad results means zero.

    aj the hillbillies new name is big game burnett.. the transformation for AJ is just around the corner, new hairdo, lobotomy and we have a whole new pitcher.

    hey aj is the 6st best starter on the yanks major league roster….

  5. Vineyard Yankee August 10th, 2011 at 1:07 am

    Abomb82 August 10th, 2011 at 12:58 am

    You are nuts. AJ is a career .500 pitcher who does not have consistency with his command.

  6. West Coast Yankee Fan August 10th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    No one is writing anyone’s obituary, especially Mo’s. But is is entirely irrational to deny that at some point, whenever that may be, Mariano will no longer be the pitcher he once was. Father time waits for no one.

    No one is saying that time has come, it may be two to three years down the road, this may just be a hiccup like he has had in the past and it probably is.

    But don’t say with certitude you know. You don’t.

  7. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    Ghostwriter,

    You’re not the one with the rose-colored glasses I was referring. It was one of the pom-pom posters I could do without. It’s irritating when we’re losing to have to read the nonsensical chipper chatter that’s spewing forth.

    I’m all for Mo having a typical year, but I’m just not counting on it. His pitches are not cutting like they used to when I’ve watched him, and that, along with his pinpoint accuracy are vital to his success.

    I hope I’m wrong — but yes, my assessment is that we’ll see a decline this year based on nature finally catching up to even Mo.

  8. West Coast Yankee Fan August 10th, 2011 at 1:20 am

    And I do not think that Yankee fans look at Mo’s entrance into a game the same way they did even a few years ago. I think there is more doubt there than there was in the past; the certitude of a dominating performance every time is no longer there. And I do believe this is reflected in the attitude of the opposing team. That is just my sense of it, using my eyes.

    That having been said, I would still rather have Mo out there than anyone else in baseball. He is still better than the next guy. But it isn’t quite the same and it is not sacrilegious to feel that way.

  9. Chase August 10th, 2011 at 1:21 am

    My patience with AJ is pretty much done.

  10. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 1:22 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan August 9th, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    …you are just a lonely, bitter, angry failure who gets off typing glittering and mindless generalities…What an embarrassment you are.
    —————–
    West Coast Yankee Fan August 9th, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    And it’s true. Mo is still the greatest relief pitcher ever, but no team goes up to bat feeling like the game is over with him on the mound anymore. One can see that.

    Hopefully this is just a hiccup. It most likely is – but at 41 one never knows when his pinpoint command will fail him. It happens to everyone.
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    West Coast Yankee Fan August 10th, 2011 at 1:16 am

    No one is writing anyone’s obituary, especially Mo’s. But is is entirely irrational to deny that at some point, whenever that may be, Mariano will no longer be the pitcher he once was. Father time waits for no one.

    No one is saying that time has come, it may be two to three years down the road, this may just be a hiccup like he has had in the past and it probably is.

    But don’t say with certitude you know. You don’t.
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    :lol:

  11. Vineyard Yankee August 10th, 2011 at 1:24 am

    Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 1:17 am

    It was one of the pom-pom posters I could do without. It’s irritating when we’re losing to have to read the nonsensical chipper chatter that’s spewing forth.

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    Dead give away on that one. Patricia, all rah, rah and zero baseball acumen. You win a cookie.

  12. pft2 August 10th, 2011 at 1:27 am

    I see the same kind of rationalizing over AJ as the Red Sox fans/PR press do with Lackey.
    Both are huge disappointments although in Lackeys case there is hope his problems were injury related and he had a pretty good start against a good hitting team (Yankees).

    AJ has went 7 consecutive starts without a QS and has given up 29 R in 42 IP which is an average over 6R/9IP against relatively weak hitting teams.

    AJ’s stuff is no longer nasty as Abomb said, as his FB velocity is 92-93 and 95 is history. Beckett learned to pitch at 92-93 but I see no evidence AJ will unless he perfects that changeup and does a better job getting his CB over, or gets Varitek as his catcher (LOL).

    Not a terrible #5 SP’er, albeit overpaid, but forget about being a #2-#3 SP’er and pitching in the playoffs unless he improves.

  13. ron August 10th, 2011 at 1:30 am

    Burnett won 1 big game for us on the way to a ws but he is not worth half the money he is getting & if nova keeps pitching even close to what he has been,burnett won’t see a playoff start,nor should he.

    I’ll let people like gb7 who are affraid to say anything bad about a yankee player love him to the point of fault.

    The reality is burnett is the number 5 starter on this team,just ahead of hughes,maybe number 6,behind hughes.

    I am sure if the yankees could get rid of him without eating most of the money they would.

    In burnetts last year,he will be an innings eater,if he is not traded,released or benched.

    I love the yankees as much as anybody,but i am realistic.

    I also don’t wan’t to bash or insult a yankee that is trying.
    I just would not give burnett a big game.

    We would be doing better with a rotation of

    cc
    colon
    garcia
    nova
    hughes

    Burnett in the pen.

  14. West Coast Yankee Fan August 10th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Ghost – I understand you are intimidated by anyone who logically and rationally puts forth an intellectually sound position as I just did. Try harder, maybe someday you’ll get there.

  15. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 1:32 am

    Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 1:17 am
    ============

    Fair enough. Like I mentioned earlier, Mo’s numbers belie the notion that there has been a dropoff in his performance. We can see how it plays out. However, I’m not interested in being the first one in pretending to have contemporaneously identified the inflection point at which Mo began his irrevocable decline. For the last several years, people have been suggesting that it’s the end for him in sight every time that he hits a bump in the road, suggesting that age was a contributing factor in the latest blip. I’ve already seen too many of these pronouncements.

  16. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    WCYF: You know — watching other teams’ nail-biting closers at work makes me appreciate all the peace and calm we’ve been lucky enough to experience through the years with Mo.

    pft2: Lackey IS a time bomb. Not a bad comparison, although AJ is actually well-liked by his teammates.

  17. jacksquat August 10th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Looking at Mo’s stats, the most noticeable things are his gb/fb % is down significantly (more fly balls) and his babip is quite a bit higher than his average (.300 vs .263). Those two things go hand in hand.

    Watching him pitch he seems to be not quite as dominating as he has been in the past, but I wouldn’t worry about it. He’s just not quite as nearly perfect as he used to be.

  18. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    “For the last several years, people have been suggesting that it’s the end for him in sight every time that he hits a bump in the road, suggesting that age was a contributing factor in the latest blip. I’ve already seen too many of these pronouncements.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    True enough, although this is the first time for me. I truly hope I’m way off.

  19. West Coast Yankee Fan August 10th, 2011 at 1:39 am

    Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    WCYF: You know — watching other teams’ nail-biting closers at work makes me appreciate all the peace and calm we’ve been lucky enough to experience through the years with Mo.

    pft2: Lackey IS a time bomb. Not a bad comparison, although AJ is actually well-liked by his teammates.

    ************

    You’re right. He’s the best there ever was and will be. We have been spoiled and all of us cringe at the thought that he won’t be around forever.

  20. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 1:44 am

    I can’t recall which game it was exactly, but it was the post-season and Mo loaded the bases with 0 outs. They team huddled on the mound with him and he told the guys, “Don’t worry. I can get us out of this.” And he did.

    One of my all-time best Mo memories. And there are so many.

  21. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    jacksquat August 10th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Looking at Mo’s stats, the most noticeable things are his gb/fb % is down significantly (more fly balls) and his babip is quite a bit higher than his average (.300 vs .263). Those two things go hand in hand.

    =========
    That’s an interesting point. I’m just not sure that I understand what that means, or if those stats say what you suggest. It’s not clear that the difference between his b/fb% this year and his historical averages is statistically significant. It certainly has precedents in ’96, ’97, ’98, and ’02. I’m not sure that I buy argument, but it’s something to think about.

  22. luis August 10th, 2011 at 1:54 am

    Wow guys!, i just read the threads after the game…..please tone it down a bit,

    1) this is not the end of the world
    2) It’s just a game, we will get them tomorrow
    3) We are on the same side
    4)We can disagree in a respectful way
    5)Everybody is entitle to his opinion

    Sorry, but this is really getting out of hand, think about it, good night all

  23. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 1:54 am

    Good night, all

  24. Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Ghostwriter August 10th, 2011 at 1:53 am
    EDI:
    jacksquat August 10th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Looking at Mo’s stats, the most noticeable things are his gb/fb % is down significantly (more fly balls) and his babip is quite a bit higher than his average (.300 vs .263). Those two things go hand in hand.

    =========
    That’s an interesting point. I’m just not sure that I understand what that means, or if those stats say what you suggest. It’s not clear that the difference between his b/fb% this year and his historical averages is statistically significant. It certainly has precedents in ’96, ’97, ’98, and ’02. I’m not sure that I buy your argument, but it’s something to think about.

  25. The Other Phil August 10th, 2011 at 2:01 am

    Mo isn’t the pitcher he was, for sure. But he’s also better than every other closer out there. Consistency, mental toughness, calm demeanor. He’s going to have games that get blown. I think people get a little nervous about it when it happens a few times in a short span, but Mo knows how to get himself right and I expect that his next blown save won’t happen for a while.

  26. The Other Phil August 10th, 2011 at 2:04 am

    As far as AJ goes, the frustrating thing is he has some of the best pure stuff out there. For whatever reason, he can’t put it together to just pitch. He’s not a slow throwing nibbler, he has velocity, movement and bite. If he could ever figure it out with any consistency, he’d be devastating, but given his age and career length, I don’t see that happening. Unfortunately.

  27. stuart a August 10th, 2011 at 2:11 am

    AGAIN THE SAME OLD GARBAGE. IF AJ COULD FIGURE IT OUT…

    the guy is 34… the light has not gone off and never will.

    he is a goofball dope. plain and simple. the guy said he would hcnage nothing in tonights game so here are some of the lowlights from tonights game from the aj perspective.

    gave up a homer to a guy with 4 homers for the season. walked a rookie to load tha bases, then gave up a double to the track to a guy hitting 185. then decided to throw his league leading I think 15th pass ball to allow the 4th run to come in. btw martin has saved the dope about 12 other wild pitches..

    aj finished with giving up 4 runs in lony 6 innings and i think 13 baserunners and to the aj apologist he deserves a medal since after all he has”GOOD STUFF”

    who gives a crap if he has good stuff, i care about good results……………………………….

  28. stuart a August 10th, 2011 at 2:30 am

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....ls-anaheim

    could not say it any better then marchand does link above.

    aj has no idea of what is going on. anyone who trusts him is insane……

  29. West Coast Yankee Fan August 10th, 2011 at 2:44 am

    “Girardi should reconsider pulling Burnett from the rotation if Phil Hughes — starting Saturday — can prove he belongs for good. Hughes, who owns two good starts all season, can improve. To think Burnett, at 34, can change more than his hair color seems to be the definition of insanity.”

    Thanks for saying that Marchand.

  30. brownies August 10th, 2011 at 7:12 am

    Offense is terrible. What ever happened to mark texeira?

  31. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Pat M. August 9th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
    This place has become an embarrassment ……Fickle bandwagoneers…..I need to have my head examined for coming here….I’m done
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    It’s a shame when the respected bloggers feel this way and stay away.

  32. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 7:21 am

    Morning YT.

  33. Kelvin August 10th, 2011 at 7:22 am

    The game of baseball is emotional, there’s always going to be fans dying over every pitch. The blog lets fans vent, it does get a little wild but it happens on every blog.

  34. SoxRule August 10th, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Let’s Go Rays!
    Wild Card is Yours for the Taking
    GOOOOOOOOOOOO Sox!
    Great Mo is gone!
    Skanks Suck!

  35. 108 stitches August 10th, 2011 at 7:31 am

    A typical Burnett game. Anytime after the 4th inning he stands a high percentage of falling apart.
    For his next start, get the bullpen on high alert and pull him as soon as he gives up the 1st walk before his damage gets worse.

  36. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:32 am

    MTU-

    Good morning. Didn’t watch the 9th inning.

    Overall,contrary to most, AJ looked good up to the 6th inning when he got into trouble with the bottom of the Angels order-walking Bourjos and walking Izturis to get to light hitting Mathis. I wonder if Martin called for the curve that Mathis hit for a double that broke the game open. Most of the Yankee announcers wondered why he didn’t trust his fastball in that situation.

    I like Martin, but he needs a break.
    Bottom 2nd, runner on 2nd, Martin grounds out to end the inning.
    Bottom 4th, runners on 1st and 2nd, Again grounds out to end inning.
    Bottom 8th was same as bottom 4th.

    I really think the Yankees should bring up Montero NOW, as DH at least until A-Rod gets back, and maybe get him in there as catcher for Nova. The offense needs an infusion now.

  37. Gary August 10th, 2011 at 7:34 am

    brownies August 10th, 2011 at 7:12 am
    Offense is terrible. What ever happened to mark texeira?

    ________________________________________________________________

    Well he was there with his bat at the end

  38. blake August 10th, 2011 at 7:35 am

    I think we.can look at the last 2 games one of two ways……you can look it as 2 gutwrenching losses…..or we can consider that the Yankees faced 2 of the better pitchers in the league this year and were in a position to win and probably should have won both games. That means they played well enough to win the games but the greatest closer of all time couldn’t get it done……it happens and its not the end.of the world. Im not worried about Mo….he will be fine. His velocity and stuff looks fine……he gave up a jam shot single and then made a mistake and gave in to Abreu 3-1 when he was clearly sitting on the inner half.

    Get the next 2 and all is well……

  39. blake August 10th, 2011 at 7:39 am

    Montero has really been lookin good.at the plate……opo bomb last night and he’s been wearing the warning track out just missing a couple more homers.

  40. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 7:40 am

    YT-

    It’s not so much that Burnett loses. That can happen to anyone.

    It’s the way it happens. He’s his own worst enemy sometimes.

    I agree that Martin could use more time off.

  41. Gary August 10th, 2011 at 7:41 am

    Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:16 am
    Pat M. August 9th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
    This place has become an embarrassment ……Fickle bandwagoneers…..I need to have my head examined for coming here….I’m done
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    It’s a shame when the respected bloggers feel this way and stay away.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    In defence of the fickle bandwagoners, too many people are so intrenched in their opinion that they then personally attack the other posters. Everybody has an opinion, respect it if it doesn’t match your, but don’t attack the individual, that’s what starts the ugly escallation. I was attacked by some idiot called J Alfred whatever for just offering an opinion that Posada wasn’t giving the Yanks what they needed from their DH. I thought that was hardly a offensive comment, but I immediatly got back abuse and a GFY comment. I just loged off, who needs to have that abuse leveled on yourself.

  42. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    Blake-

    I agree. Too much being made out of 2 very tough losses.

  43. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    AJ

    First four innings 3 hits[all singles], no walks, 6 strikeouts.

    Maybe there would be some value to have him pitch in the bullpen???

  44. Gary August 10th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:32 am
    MTU-

    Good morning. Didn’t watch the 9th inning.

    Overall,contrary to most, AJ looked good up to the 6th inning when he got into trouble with the bottom of the Angels order-walking Bourjos and walking Izturis to get to light hitting Mathis. I wonder if Martin called for the curve that Mathis hit for a double that broke the game open. Most of the Yankee announcers wondered why he didn’t trust his fastball in that situation.

    I like Martin, but he needs a break.
    Bottom 2nd, runner on 2nd, Martin grounds out to end the inning.
    Bottom 4th, runners on 1st and 2nd, Again grounds out to end inning.
    Bottom 8th was same as bottom 4th.

    I really think the Yankees should bring up Montero NOW, as DH at least until A-Rod gets back, and maybe get him in there as catcher for Nova. The offense needs an infusion now.

    __________________________________________________________________________

    Wasn’t one of those a hit and he was out at second trying to be a little too agressive?

  45. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    YT-

    I dont see the Yankees doing that at this point.

    AJ would not seem to profile as a very good reliever IMO.

    He lacks the essential qualities to be a good reliever command and mental toughness.

  46. blake August 10th, 2011 at 7:47 am

    I think people have forgotten how.bad this place was pre-registration……the game threads have always been a mess when the Yankees are losing but overall I find there to be less trolls than at any point I can remember since I’ve posted here anyway…….we just miss some members of the community that are on hopefully a temporary hiatus.

  47. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 7:50 am

    I like Martin, but he needs a break.

    =========================

    Has nothing to do with needing a break. He’s just not very good.

  48. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:50 am

    Get the next 2 and all is well
    ——————————-
    Next 2 against a AA pitcher and the last game a day game. We’ll take them both.

    Speaking of AA pitchers, rumor has it that Banuelos will be up with the Yankees working out of the pen. What a boost that could be.

  49. blake August 10th, 2011 at 7:51 am

    I would be nice if the Twins could not be terrible against the Red Sox…….and at least win one at home.

    AJ is AJ…..I’ve been rough on him but I thought he threw the ball pretty well last night. Girardi just has to act quickly when he shows signs of losing it……and they have to get Mathis out in that situation…..he’s.terrible.

  50. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Blake-

    The bottom line is that we need to put the loses behind us as quickly as
    possible and continue to focus on just winning series.

    I’m sure that’s what the players concentrate on.

    Hoping that Nova continues his forward progress tonight.

    He has been a joy to watch of late.

    :)

  51. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Wasn’t one of those a hit and he was out at second trying to be a little too agressive?

    ===================================

    All of those were straight groundouts. He did double in the 7th.

  52. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:53 am

    Wasn’t one of those a hit and he was out at second trying to be a little too agressive?

    ————————
    Gary-
    That was the night before when he was thrown out and the next batter Nunez hit a homer. 2 runs there might have given the Yankees a win in game 3 against the RS. However I don’t blame martin on being aggresive in a close game.

  53. blake August 10th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Martin is swinging the bat better……but supplement him by freeing Montero.

  54. blake August 10th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    If Nova has the good slider again then we will be fine.

  55. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Blake-

    We all seem to be pissing up a rope when it comes to Montero.

    The Yankees obviously dont think it’s the right moment or he would already be up.

    I thought they would have brought him up after the TD.

    Now it looks like he gets his cup of coffee. No more.

  56. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Blake, MTU, Mell-

    I’m with you. Free Monstero now, bring him up as the DH, lt him catch Nova, and let’s see if he can help until A-Rod gets back. At that point the worst that can happen is he’s sent back to AAA.

  57. Yankee Trader August 10th, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Gotta go. have a great day all.

  58. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    YT-

    No one is expecting miracles. Just a boost over Cervelli. That shouldn’t be hard to achieve.

    Someone posted Cervelli’s CS % the other day. It’s terrible.

    Montero has power potential. Cervelli doesn’t.

    He is not a terrible catcher as he has been portrayed. Anyone who has seen him Catch can attest to that.

    I’d bet he throws better than Cervelli.

    One thing he doesn’t have is dreamy eyes.

    maybe that’s it ?

    :)

  59. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    I thought they would have brought him up after the TD.

    Now it looks like he gets his cup of coffee. No more
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    I’d like to think they’re simply waiting for whatever they perceive to be the right time. I’m hopeful they determine that the trip to KC is it. I can almost understand not bringing him up and throwing him into a key series against Boston, and maybe even not wanting to have his start be at home, where expectations are probably far too high. Can’t think of any reason not to let him get his baptism before the friends and family crowds in KC though.

  60. 108 stitches August 10th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    I had more faith in Jeff Weaver than Burnett. He just doesn’t get the message. Ignore what his salary is and drop him to No. 6 ……. permanently.
    It can be expected that the offense will soon get better. It can be expected that Burnett will never get better.

  61. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Blake, there are never any moral victories in sports – well, very rarely, so these last 2 games are just bad losses as far as I’m concerned. I’m not worried about Mo, either – provided the Yankees give him the rest he probably needs. Girardi seems to forget that he’s 40 years old – and Mo went through this last year at this time. Give the guy a break and let Soriano and Robertson close some games – that’s in part why they are here.

  62. Gary August 10th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    AJ usually gets in trouble when his control goes out the window after a few innings. Last night that is what happened, we have seen it before. I think he was up around a 90 pitches again when the damage started

  63. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    Mell-

    I’m fresh out of theories.

  64. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    The way AJ pitches, of course he wouldn’t change a lot. For 5 innings he was really good. Had many people thinking he was determined this game to not let it get away from him.

    And then it happens. He lulls you into a sense of, if not comfort, well, at least a sense of semi-easiness, and before you know it, there’s a completely different pitcher on the mound.

    I’m sure the Yankees see it, but what can they do about it? For one, it rears it’s ugly head relatively quickly – no time to get someone up to stop it. The HR to Abreu wasn’t the big hit. It was everything that followed it. The killer, to me, almost even more than the double to the .190 hitter (UGH), was the WP. Because that one pitch sums up AJ.

    He has not been a pitcher who gets steely when he gets into trouble. He turns into a wet noodle. And I seriously hope the Yankees don’t allow him to jeopardize their playoff chances, let alone an actual playoff game. I just don’t know what they can do about it, so long as they continue to keep him in the rotation.

    Jack Curry had a good suggestion, I thought, in the post game. He said perhaps add AJ to the list of pitchers being skipped, allowing him a turn or two through the rotation to work on things with Rothschild. It may not help,but how can it seriously hurt?

    And the hair has GOT to go.

  65. pat August 10th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    AJ suffers from lots of things but lately it has been “one bad inning” disease. Some other sufferers have found a cure for it and for others its been terminal.

    Once the Yankees tied it up at 4, I take AJ out of the outcome in my mind. It’s like he handed the pen the ball at 0-0. That perspective lowers frustration.

    Will the events of last night stop Micahel Kay from debating whether the “Jeff Nelson” move works or increase his use of the phrase?

  66. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    VN-

    Send him back to that barn.

    And this time make sure he is chained to a stall.

    ;)

  67. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    pat -

    Since the move actually worked last night, I’d expect the phrase to stay in Michael Kay’s repertoire.

  68. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Betsy:

    Rivera has thrown only 5 innings over the last 2 weeks (including last night). Yankees have been pretty careful with him. At this point, he’s on a pace to finish the year at about 65 innings, which would be about where you’d want him to be.

  69. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Mell, thanks -He’s allowed to slump, just like any player – so I guess this is just what it is

  70. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    pat August 10th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Once the Yankees tied it up at 4, I take AJ out of the outcome in my mind. It?s like he handed the pen the ball at 0-0. That perspective lowers frustration.

    ******************************

    pat-totally agree.

    BTW, I nominate last night’s game for Weirdest Loss of the Year. ;)

  71. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    I’m not sure why Girardi hasn’t learned with AJ yet. OK, AJ is a goofball, but why’s the manager continuing to let this guy implode? We’ve all seen it with AJ. It’s a pretty recognizable pattern. I’d start yanking him at the first sign of trouble. Winning games is more important than worrying about AJ’s psyche at this point. We know he can’t be counted on in the playoffs — is that not transparent to all? OK, maybe not to father-figure, Girardi, but this isn’t little league.

    I like Jack Curry’s suggestion to skip AJ for a while. (Mussina got benched, so why not AJ?) I don’t see him having to face any sort of consequences for his poor pitching. And no, I don’t know what’s happening in the clubhouse. But saying there wasn’t much to change in his game was just downright aggravating to read.

  72. tom tresh 15 August 10th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    I would like to at least see Montero given a chance, But with Martin, Cerveli, Jorge on the roster, I dont see them adding a 4th catcher

  73. Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    He’s not being skipped – and Joe came out and said that he’s not going to lose his spot in the rotation (which is fine; IMO, he doesn’t deserve it). Why should he be skipped – for Phil Hughes who has not been good? The Yankees look at Phil like he has an awful lot to prove, and he does, so they are not going to take a shaky AJ out of the rotation for a shaky Hughes.

  74. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    It didn’t even really feel like the game was over on a play that like. Very weird, indeed!

  75. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 8:41 am

    On another note:

    Cory Wade is very good.

    What a find.

    :)

  76. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Ivan Nova gets to play cork-in-the-bottle tonight.

    Hope he’s up to it.

  77. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 8:37 am
    It didn?t even really feel like the game was over on a play that like. Very weird, indeed!

    ****************

    I actually asked my TV “what just happened?” lol

  78. pat August 10th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    “pat-totally agree.”

    and that’s probably why we don’t feel the need to go postal on a blog. :wink:

  79. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    Erin-

    I worry about people who talk to their TV’s.

    :)

  80. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    Betsy,

    There are no moral victories but there are no devastating regular season losses either…….the Yankees should have won the last two games agaisnt two of the better RHP in the league…..viewing that at a positive doesn’t make it a moral victory….

  81. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    MTU,

    What about people.that yell at their TV? :)

  82. Villa Nova-Ya August 10th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    I kinda felt bad for Teixeira in that situation. There was nothing he could do to help.

  83. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    pat- :)

    MTU-I don’t make a habit of it, if that makes any difference. ;) It just happened so fast it caught me off guard. LOL

  84. upstate kate August 10th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    A heart breaking loss on so many levels. Of the 3 games, that one looked the least winnable. Time to turn the page and win today!

  85. Mell August 10th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    I worry about people who talk to their TV’s.

    ===========================

    Nah, no need to worry. Time to worry is if they hear the TV talking back.

  86. Shame Spencer August 10th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Pat M. August 9th, 2011 at 11:04 pm
    This place has become an embarrassment ……Fickle bandwagoneers…..I need to have my head examined for coming here….I’m done

    ————————-

    Really sad to see this posted last night. I always enjoy Pat M.’s posts. I hope someone will let him know the morning crew (albeit not the same) is still a much better crew to chat baseball with.

  87. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    “Why should he be skipped –for Phil Hughes who has not been good? ”

    He wont be but if Hughes has another good outing this weekend…..and looks right stuff and.confidence wise then that’s what SHOULD happen. Hughes was a better pitcher than AJ last year and has the chance of improving …..AJ is what he is at this point.

  88. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Blake-

    Next time try throwing a shoe at it. Time for one of those new 60 inch jobs anyway.

    Erin-

    Just kidding. We all do it once in a while.

    ;)

  89. blake August 10th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Curtis gets a full pass because without him the Yanks might not even be leading the WC right now…….but that was one of the worst baserunning mistakes you’ll ever see

  90. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Mell-

    lol.

    Yeah. That’s a definite danger signal of something.

    :)

  91. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    MTU-good to know. ;)

  92. 86w183 August 10th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I cannot begin to comprehend what was going through Granderson’s mind there.

    Difficult loss for sure, but I would not put it in the category of a game they should have won. Sunday night, certainly, but when you’re down 3 in the middle innings and never take the lead I view this loss quite differently.

    Could we have a 24-hour ban on “Montero” discussion?

    Pleeeeeeze

  93. blake August 10th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I did like how AJ threw the ball last night early……he was on top and the ball was jumping out of his hand the way it used to. Glimpses like that have always been what make AJ so intriguing ……you think for a second that maybe he’s figured it out…..maybe the potential will finally be tapped……maybe he can sustain this.

  94. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    I didn’t read the game thread. Was it really any worse than it normally gets? Hey, fans get emotional and were probably really revved up because we’d just come off a tough loss against the Sox.

    My beef is with the personal insults and name-calling. And some self-righteous posters telling others how they must or must not post. That gets old fast.

  95. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    erin-

    Think of it this way. You got off easy.

    If Robbie was on you would not only talked to your set.

    You would have hugged and kissed it too.

    They would have had to call in the the jaws of life just to set you free.

    :)

  96. Wang IS Taiwan August 10th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    Curtis had what I refer to as a “brain fart”. It happens, but he’s the last person I would criticize on the team. Where would the Yanks be without him this season?

  97. Erin August 10th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    New Post: “He just happened to throw a ball that didn’t cut”

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  98. MTU August 10th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    Wang-

    At least Grandy’s brain farts are rare.

    ;)

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