Yankees pregame: A-Rod’s rehab/Mo’s “blip”/rotation talk
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Brian Heyman here for Chad for these next five games here at Yankee Stadium. Joe Girardi said that Alex Rodriguez will probably be starting his rehab assignment Friday as a DH and then hopefully play Saturday at third for either Class A Tampa or the Gulf Coast League Yankees.
Girardi wasn’t counting on him being back for the start of the next seven-game road trip Monday in Kansas City, but he does believe he will be back during the trip, barring any setbacks, of course.
As for Mariano Rivera’s back-to-back bad outings, Girardi called them ”a blip.”
“Usually when Mo has his little blips in the screen, sometimes they come back to back,” Girardi said. “Then he usually runs off a really good streak. If my sense is right, I think that’s what will happen. It’s just a little blip here.”
When asked about lefties starting to hit better against Rivera, Girardi said, “His velocity is not quite what it used to be.”
The topic that drew the most attention was the state of the rotation, with six good pieces and five holes. Ivan Nova starts tonight. Asked about whether Nova was pitching for a spot tonight, Girardi said, “No, I wouldn’t say that. Come out healthy.”
“He’s pitched very well for us,” Girardi said. “That’s the bottom line. As we know, none of our pitchers are going to be perfect. Sometimes they’re going to have some blips. But we feel very good about him taking the ball every sixth day right now. That’s something we eventually have to get down to five here, just for our roster and just for the routine for the guys.
“I think the biggest difference in (Nova) – a month of it he wasn’t really here, three weeks – but the last two and a half months or whatever has been his slider and the ability to get swing and misses and strikeouts on it, and the improvement of that. It’s different weapon for him than his other pitches.”
Although it’s hard to envision it happening, Girardi did leave the door open a crack when he was asked about A.J. Burnett being able to pitch out of the bullpen, saying, “I think A.J. has the skillset to do anything.”
I hope sending Nova down served as a wake up call and he pitches like last time out every time.
He could be our #2.
http://www.fangraphs.com/pitch.....8;pitch=FA
Still throwing pretty hard to me Joe G.
The pitches that Mo has thrown that have been hit hard the last few days were all cutters that didn’t cut. I am less worried about his velocity and more worried about his non-cutting cutter. I really don’t see it as a problem though, I remember 2 years ago in September, Ichiro hit one off him on the exact same pitch that Abreau got… a straightball. I really think its not that big of deal but only time will tell.
PS. Jorge needs to be offered a bench coach position IMHO.
Someone here, I think G. Love, said that someone else, maybe an announcer, said that Martin was tipping pitches? Can anyone expound on that? What?
They’ll probably put Hughes in the pen and stick with AJ….he’s got experience there and they will be afraid it will hurt AJs feelings.
Mo’s velocity is fine…its actually been a little better than last year I think……he’s just missing some spots right now and he’s not getting the good late cut on the cutter. Probably mechanically something is off a tick…..he’ll be fine.
lol, Jerkface. I’ve never seen you so uncertain!
JF,
It was me…..I.said Kevin Kennedy talks about it all the time how Martin telegraphs pitches when he sets up….said he’s always done it. I haven’t noticed anything like that but its hard to tell on TV
Steven Tyler tipping pitches!!
I think I remember last year when Mo went through one of these spells that something was wrong with his grip and the ball was flattening out…..and he fixed it and started dominating again.
Nova has more than earned his spot…………so Blake, yeah, I agree with you about Phil going to the pen. He’d have to be really outstanding, I think, to force his way into the rotation. He really should be starting all the time in AAA until then………… Either way, he’s going to have innings issues next year yet again.
I guess Mo is the only player in baseball allowed to slump – every time he hits a bump in the road, people ask if it’s the end. Maybe, just maybe, it’s just a slump. He’ll be fine – he always is. I never underestimate Mo.
A.J. is getting one last chance to pitch well in his next start. Will that be Sunday or
next Tuesday??
Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
Someone here, I think G. Love, said that someone else, maybe an announcer, said that Martin was tipping pitches? Can anyone expound on that? What?
Martin is setting up early and setting up in the same location over and over.
Look at how Cervelli sets up here.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=17556273
Betsy,
I don’t agree with it…..but that’s probably what’s going to happen……and then we will go through all the innings junk again next year.
Guess these 2 ballplayers:
Player A) 305 AB’s 13 HR
Player B) 307 AB’s 12 HR
Crazy
If Mo were throwing 88-89 mph meatballs up there I’d be worried. He’s still 91-93mph with location. I’m not worried about him at all. He goes through this every season.
What Girardi should be doing is let Soriano set up Robertsen or vice versa once in awhile.
I thought the smart part of signing Soriano was that he could close on the nights Mo needed a breather.
They have that option. Get over the “roles” and think out of the box for once, Girardi.
Here’s Russ Martin.
http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play......d=17844941
Surprise, mo hits the target.
After 4 pitches in the same location, Abreu does what he’s suppose to do.
Blake, hopefully his innings won’t be an issue because he’d pitched a lot in 2010, but if they are, that’s just how it is – he has a hard time staying healthy and it’s cost him.
Cashman said neither Phil or Nova were going to be full time relievers, but that’s unavoidable unless one of them is sent to AAA. I’m not sure why he made that comment when, unless AJ is removed, there’s no way to avoid it.
Guess these 2 ballplayers:
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I know one has to be Melky. The other…… DeJesus?
You don’t even have to provide stats. We know who you’re talking about.
I think AJ coukd be a nasty reliever…..he wouldn’t need to keep his delivery intact for 7 innings and he would only need 2 pitches.
AJ is still nasty when he’s at 95/96…..he can’t sustain that anymore starting but maybe he could in shorter stints. He’s a different pitcher with that velo.
Repost from the last thread, sorry for the digression:
Why do people love baseball? When you’re kid, you played it, collected baseball cards and ruined your teeth with Tops bubble gum. You also had heroes who could do no wrong; you didn’t know about their private lives, and wouldn’t care anyway. As the years pass, your first heroes inevitably age and fade, and you watched them go out either in glory or in pain. New guys appear, and while they can never surpass your first heroes, you came to admire them for their own abilities. Over a period of many years, you watched heroes come and go, excited when they developed, sad as they declined.
If I came from outer space and started watching baseball, with all its modern analytics (which would undoubtedly appeal to my ET ultra keen sense of reason), you could say you like baseball, but say you love it over fifty or sixty years, you must remember the heroes, their successes and often their godlike failures, hot dogs and CrackerJacks, even the smell of a newly opened pack of bubblegum baseball cards. That’s why I love baseball, and that’s why I want Jorge in the postseason.
blake August 10th, 2011 at 5:38 pm
I think AJ coukd be a nasty reliever…..he wouldn’t need to keep his delivery intact for 7 innings and he would only need 2 pitches.
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I think he’d be a better reliever than Hughes at this point. It seems Hughes needs to keep throwing to gain more strength.
Girardi speak. First he calls Mariano’s back-to-back bad outings, ”a blip.” Then he says, “His velocity is not quite what it used to be.” So which is it Joe? A blip which is temporary” Or a decline in velocity which comes with age and is chronic and irreversible?
Words of wisdom from RAB post:
“On the mound too, we’ve seen Mariano Rivera lose a little something. It’s not much, but it’s enough. Last night, it was the difference between missing middle-in on a 3-1 pitch that didn’t cut enough at 91 and missing middle-in on a 3-1 pitch that didn’t cut enough at 93 or 94 as he would have thrown five or six years ago. At 41, Rivera is the oldest Yankee, and baseball time marches on.”
I heard most of Joe’s interview with Francesca, but not all of it. Apparently he mentioned all the starters except Hughes, so expect him to be the long-man in the pen………….and hopefully he won’t get that much work because if he does, that’s obviously not good.
Blake, I hate the idea of Burnett in the pen – unless he’s the long man. He’s not a guy I ever want throwing big innings in big spots…..not that he would, anyway, since those are locked down with Mo, Soriano and Robertson. It’s not happening, anyway
Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
I heard most of Joe’s interview with Francesca, but not all of it. Apparently he mentioned all the starters except Hughes, so expect him to be the long-man in the pen………….and hopefully he won’t get that much work because if he does, that’s obviously not good.
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Why is it not good for him to get work?
Tomingeorgia – that was a very nice essay. One of the best here in a long time.
Betsy,
He wouldn’t be throwing key innings…..Robertson, Soriano, Rivera.
Bret The Hitman August 10th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Guess these 2 ballplayers:
Player A) 305 AB’s 13 HR
Player B) 307 AB’s 12 HR
Crazy
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Any guess?
Rivera’s velocity is not where it was years ago, but in the context of this season, his velocity the last 2 nights have been normal.
Girardi opened the door a crack with Burnett to the bullpen ? Open the door wide and tell him to grab a seat, we’ll call you when we need you.
Laughable when he says Burnett has the skillset to do anything. When does it start ?
His average velocity is higher than 2009
Whoever goes to the pen won’t be pitching much in close games. They will probably just take Noesi’s role as the guy who throws 2 innings a week.
Joe,
Thanks.
108 stitches August 10th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Girardi opened the door a crack with Burnett to the bullpen ? Open the door wide and tell him to grab a seat, we’ll call you when we need you.
Laughable when he says Burnett has the skillset to do anything. When does it start ?
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Get a clue. What else do you expect the manager to say? He’s not going to insult the guy and lose him for the rest of the season.
Girardi has to say all the right things to the media. Its his job.
Blake, I guess I don’t believe in speculating on something that’s going to happen……..and even in low-leverage situations I don’t think he’d be any good.
Lock down, you want your long man to get work? That means the SP has to be bad for that to happen.
AZ88 August 10th, 2011 at 5:45 pm
Rivera’s velocity is not where it was years ago, but in the context of this season, his velocity the last 2 nights have been normal.
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Yes, but the point is that on the rare occasion where Mo would miss his spot, he could get away with it throwing 94-95. Not so much at 91-92. It’s just a reality. Anyone who thinks your velocity will be the same when you are 41 going on 42 as it was when you were younger is just being foolish.
He still is the best in the game, he will just need to continue the pinpoint command that has been his hallmark along with the cutter. He can’t afford to miss anymore.
Mo’s velocity is the same its been the past 4 years, he didn’t suddenly lose any velocity.
Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 5:46 pm
His average velocity is higher than 2009
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Girardi said, “His velocity is not quite what it used to be.”
joegirardi@yankees.com – quick set them straight.
Joe,
It came to me as the everlasting AJ, Hughes and Nova debate continued. It isn’t that I’m not interested in the outcome of that, but in baseball, rarely do you get things resolved instantly to everyone’s satisfaction.
Cashman said neither Phil or Nova were going to be full time relievers, but that’s unavoidable unless one of them is sent to AAA.
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Why? The 6 man rotation could last til year end.
Why do either have to go the pen?
Betsy, yeah true. I thought you were referring more toward Hughes playing time as opposed to the circumstances within the game
Email sent. Maybe now Joe will look at the radar gun before making an innocuous postgame comment, which as you’ve undoubtedly pointed out, often absolves AJ burnett of his troubles and constantly hand waves away any kind of player wrong doing.
Its almost like… you shouldn’t really take anything baseball players say as gospel!
Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
I heard most of Joe’s interview with Francesca,
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After all our conversations you still spell his name wrong.
Why do you do that when you know it’s wrong?
Lockdown, it’s not ideal, but when you are basically the low man on the totem pole, that’s how things are. He’s going to be in the pen, I feel, so hopefully he can do well there …….and still use his curve, by the way. I suspect that he’ll be in a competition with some other kids for that 5th spot next year and he’ll need that curve.
Maybe if you were paying attention to the game in the past 4 years, you’d remember all the ‘rivera velocity’ scares, the WWWMR weeks, and the admission that ‘Mo at age X is not the same as he was 3 years ago!’ They were saying that 3 years ago. Mo’s best save percentages came during his late 30s. This current scare is the same as it always was.
mick August 10th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Betsy August 10th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
I heard most of Joe’s interview with Francesca,
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After all our conversations you still spell his name wrong.
Why do you do that when you know it’s wrong?
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The same reason she says Mariano is 40 when he is going to be 42 in November – and the same reason she doesn’t know the difference between command and control. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 5:55 pm
Maybe if you were paying attention to the game in the past 4 years, you’d remember all the ‘rivera velocity’ scares, the WWWMR weeks, and the admission that ‘Mo at age X is not the same as he was 3 years ago!’ They were saying that 3 years ago. Mo’s best save percentages came during his late 30s. This current scare is the same as it always was.
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Write Cashman and Girardi. Save them from themselves. Do they not know who you are?
The same reason she says Mariano is 40 when he is going to be 42 in November – and the same reason she doesn’t know the difference between command and control. She doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
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Oh. I thought it was because she was obstinate, my bad.
Are you done wetting your bed because Mariano had 2 bad games?
I think the Yankees are considering AJ for the pen. Girardi’s comment may be a foreshadowing of what he would say if he is sent to the pen.
It all depends on Hughes. Will he be significantly better than Burnett? That’s what the six man rotation may be meant to find out.
Betsy,
I like Phil and I’m more concerned about his future than where he ptiches the rest of his shaky 2011. He wouldn’t need to hold his velocity in the pen and can go all out there in 2011 to help the team out. However, hopefully they find a good strength program for him in the offseason and he will be ready to be in the rotation for a full year next year.
Bret The Hitman says:
Guess these 2 ballplayers:
Player A) 305 AB’s 13 HR
Player B) 307 AB’s 12 HR
Crazy
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Any guess?
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I’m going to go with Melky and A-Rod.
Which no doubt proves that at his absolute best Melky can have as much power as a hobbled A-Rod.
AJ to the pen in the playoffs means a good reliever will be left off.
Same concept as if he were a starter, Hughes or Nova would be left off.
WCYF
You scared Betty away, you bad guy.
Lockdown, agreed………
ESPN game tonight. Hopefully they will show Kendrick or Aybar hop around before a pitch or two. I mean that is top notch production right there.
Thankfully I think the game is on YES as well so I don’t have to be subject do that pathetic nonsense.
The 6 man is designed to separate the men from the boys.
If it does anything less, someone is a fraud.
It could be the GM, the Mgr or the pitcher.
tomingeorgia August 10th, 2011 at 5:22 pm
Why do people love baseball? When you’re kid, you played it, collected baseball cards and ruined your teeth with Tops bubble gum. You also had heroes who could do no wrong; you didn’t know about their private lives, and wouldn’t care anyway. As the years pass, your first heroes inevitably age and fade, and you watched them go out either in glory or in pain. New guys appear, and while they can never surpass your first heroes, you came to admire them for their own abilities. Over a period of many years, you watched heroes come and go, excited when they developed, sad as they declined. If I came from outer space and started watching baseball, with all its modern analytics (which would undoubtedly appeal to your ultra keen sense of reason), you could say you like baseball, but say you love it over fifty or sixty years, you must remember the heroes, their successes and often their godlike failures, hot dogs and CrackerJacks, even the smell of a newly opened pack of bubblegum baseball cards. That’s why I love baseball, and that’s why I want Jorge in the postseason.
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Hey tomingeorgia, I went to copy & paste this, because I couldn’t let it not be seen. I see you had the wisdom to repost.
All I can say is, I shed a tear reading it, because even my body understands it. Thanks.
Melkman and ARod
proof that stats can say whatever you want them to say at times
Player A is AROD
Player B is Russell Martin
Its actually Russell Martin and A-rod, Melky Cabrera has a bazillion more ABs than both of them
Bret,
Yet people kill Martin for being a “black hole” and killing our offense, while citing A-Rod as the savior to our offensive woes and assuming the offense will click as soon as he comes back.
JAP,
Thanks for that. I really appreciate it.
That’s why I love baseball, and that’s why I want Jorge in the postseason.
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But…what if Montero rises and takes AB’s away from Jorge or even Chavez, for that matter?
Would you still want Jorge or the player that makes you the better team?
Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Are you done wetting your bed because Mariano had 2 bad games?
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I think it is unfortunate when your closer blows two important games in a row in the middle of a pennant race no matter who it is.
But any intelligent baseball fan would be open to the possibility that his skills may be diminishing to the point where he will have more games like that. Your assumption that it doesn’t have any connection with his age iis completely nonsensical, you don’t know that.
I have no idea whether it is or isn’t.
Yet people kill Martin for being a “black hole” and killing our offense, while citing A-Rod as the savior to our offensive woes and assuming the offense will click as soon as he comes back.
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Russel Martin is a black hole and A-rod has 20 more base hits than Martin, and 5 more doubles. A-rod: .295 .366 .485 .852 , Martin: .228 .323 .384 .707
Doesn’t bret love total bases? A-rod has more of those as well.
Brian, six good pieces? You’ve got to be kidding, if you consider AJ good. This isn’t the second game of the 2009 world series. It’s the crappy way he’s pitched since then (including his other start in the WS.)
Yank1 August 10th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Bret,
Yet people kill Martin for being a “black hole” and killing our offense, while citing A-Rod as the savior to our offensive woes and assuming the offense will click as soon as he comes back.
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It’s interesting.
Cabrera’s not playing in a homer friendly park. He is playing in a doubles friendly one though, & has 30 2B. In the Stadium, he’d probably have about 18.
austinmac August 10th, 2011 at 5:59 pm
I think the Yankees are considering AJ for the pen. Girardi’s comment may be a foreshadowing of what he would say if he is sent to the pen.
It all depends on Hughes. Will he be significantly better than Burnett? That’s what the six man rotation may be meant to find out.
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I agree, Hughes is key. If Nova has a game like his last one and Hughes pitches a gem in his next start, it becomes difficult to justify either being skipped in favor of a pitcher just because his yearly salary is $16.5M .
I never said that Mariano was invincible to age related decline, I merely stated the FACT that his velocity has been down for years (he hasn’t thrown 93-94 consistently in more than 5) and that his current velocity is actually HIGHER than 2 years ago.
I don’t think Velocity is an issue, because Mo got tons of outs when his cutter was only going 88-91 while he was hurt in all of 2009. His ERA is still fine, he is still striking people out, and not walking anyone. Its possible he is losing some movement on the cutter, but I would not be convinced its anything long term until he sucks for an entire year. Which he hasn’t and likely won’t.
And he still has a change up! Which he has used in ST for the past decade to make hitters look stupid and he has yet to use it in the regular season because he hasn’t had to.
Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 6:14 pm – bottom line is he blew 2 games in a row. And I think Girardi and Rothschild have a much more accurate idea of what Mariano’s velocity is or isn’t than you do.
No one would be killing Martin if his batting average were even 50 points higher, nevermind the 70 he would need to match A-Rod.
Come on now.
How would Girardi and Rothschild have a more accurate idea of what his velocity is? Velocity isn’t a secret. Do you think they have some ultra secret radar gun?
This is the same organization that monitors Hughes fastball by ‘feel’ and ‘smell’ by the way. Maybe they are simply looking at the results and determining his fastball isn’t as fast, but pitchfx and stadium guns say otherwise.
Somebody just gave me a pack of Topps cards. The gum is in it’s own separate wrapper now. I got a David Ortiz card but no Yankees. (just like in the old days)
Yank1 August 10th, 2011 at 6:09 pm
Bret,
Yet people kill Martin for being a “black hole” and killing our offense, while citing A-Rod as the savior to our offensive woes and assuming the offense will click as soon as he comes back.
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I don’t get what the objection is. Alex is one of the greatest players ever. Why isn’t he able to dramatically upgrade our offense, particulary if his power is still there?
I never intended to pass it off as a comparison of the whole player. It’s just one stat. I just think it’s a crazy reality because while Martin is a supposed broken down catcher he has matched AROD in HR’s and AROD is known for his HR power. Right now, Martin is just as capable as AROD at jacking one out. In 2011, AROD’s power numbers are not what they used to be.
Baseball guys are the same people who would describe Robertson’s 91 mph fastball as ‘sneaky fast’ with no scientific or qualitative knowledge of why it is so. It took a company to develop their baseball doppler radar to determine his stride created an illusion of more mph. And I am supposed to take Girardi saying Mo has velocity issues at face value? He has getting outs issues right now. Not velocity.
Bronx, nothing like the loose sticks with the powdered sugar residue coming off them…
Oh, boy.
Mick,
The answer is yes, and you’re missing the point.
Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
How would Girardi and Rothschild have a more accurate idea of what his velocity is? Velocity isn’t a secret. Do you think they have some ultra secret radar gun?
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It is quite simple. I believe the manager of the Yankees knows a great deal more about what Mariano’s velocity is or isn’t than you do. I believe him – not you.
I meant, btw, that Cabrera would probably have about 18 HR in Yankee Stadlium, not 18 2B. I did not word that well.
You don’t have to believe me. You merely have to believe pitchfx and all radar guns ever. I am merely the messenger. I did not create the velocity numbers, only reporting them to you.
But let me know when you find Girardi’s super secret radar gun that he doesn’t have.
Mick is so missing the point…no offense, mick. But, you are so, so missing the point…
Jerkface August 10th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
You don’t have to believe me. You merely have to believe pitchfx and all radar guns ever. I am merely the messenger. I did not create the velocity numbers, only reporting them to you.
But let me know when you find Girardi’s super secret radar gun that he doesn’t have.
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Again, I believe the manager of the Yankees, not you a non-professional who participates on a blog on the internet.
JAP, I forgot to mention neat’s foot oil, and Yogi’s advice to soak your new mitt in a bucket of water overnight. I was a catcher, but could never bring myself to do that with my new $40 Wilson Yogi Model.
I get the point. You love baseball. What does Posada playing in important post season games have to do with that? Esp. if there are better options.
Again, I believe the manager of the Yankees, not you a non-professional who participates on a blog on the internet.
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So is the super secret radar gun hidden on ID’s not blog?
Shouldn’t you also believe Girardi when he says AJ burnett was fine and still a good pitcher?
tom, the future ain’t what it used to be
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Now Robertsons actual velocity is up in addition to the stride……which is why he’s near unhittable.
Blake,
Yea that velocity creep pushed his ceiling from setup guy to future closer. If his 91 looked 94 his 94 must look 99.
Who cares what Girardi says?
It’s what he does that matters.
I remember the newspaper strike when nobody said anything to anybody.
They just played the games.
How refreshing!
Now we need commentary, soap opera.
Today’s TMZ world.
JAP,
“I never said most of the things I said. “
JF,
Guys just look totally overwhelmed against him…..even good hitters…..between the 94 that plays like 97 and the hammer curveball in the back of hitters minds…..he’s tough.
Only hard hit ball off Mo in the last two games was Abreu’s…..
The Braves cut Scott Proctor and just promoted Arodys Vizcaino.
What a pitching staff!!!
Shouldn’t you also believe Girardi when he says AJ burnett was fine and still a good pitcher?
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He didn’t say that. He said he has the skill-set to do ANYTHING!
My next question would have been if he believes that AJ has the skill-set to protect a 12 run lead.
Tom,
That was a very nice post….well.done.
Only hard hit ball off Mo in the last two games was Abreu’s…..
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What about Scutaro?
blake,
Thanks.
“This is the same organization that monitors Hughes fastball by ‘feel’ and ‘smell’ by the way. Maybe they are simply looking at the results and determining his fastball isn’t as fast, but pitchfx and stadium guns say otherwise.”
i’m with jerkface on this one. the yankees for some mystifying reason do not measure velocity in workouts at all. i find that very odd because it’s so easy to do.
even the pitcher himself can’t know when he throwing a little faster. you need an objective device to tell you. sometimes what feels fast isn’t fast. then if the pitcher tries to duplicate that fast feeling, he’s only duplicating what is in reality a slower pitch. not what you want.
Scutero hit a fly ball that hit the monster……he hit it ok but that’s an out every other park.
The braves have some heat in that bullpen…..even more than before now. Kimbrel is just electric.
Randy,
What do you think about Martin telegraphing pitches when he sets up…..I listen to mlb radio a lot on my lunch and Kevin Kennedy talks about it all the time…..he does set up a little early.
Elf hit one hard off Mo too for an out…..last night though…..jam shot single, bunt, ground out, homer ……one bad pitch……but that’s all it takes sometimes.
Blake,
Julio Teheran’s knocking on the door.
tomingeorgia August 10th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
JAP,
“I never said most of the things I said. “
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that one’s great. think my favorite’s his schoolteacher & him: “Lawrence, don’t you know anything??”
“Oh, lady I don’t even suspect anything…”
classic.
‘So is the super secret radar gun hidden on ID’s not blog’?
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Is this stalking ?
Do you mean, reading this blog?
Or are you asking if what you are doing is stalking? Probably, since you apparently know about some link ID had in his name from years ago that no one can find.
Or maybe you’re asking that ironically ,since you/westcoast appear to be stalking Betsy now
The Braves are just loaded with arms
Careful face. You’re just asking to be “Dismissed!”
The trouble with the radar readings are they can be deceptive, in they are either set wrong – giving or taking a few mph. There are many pitchers who hate that the mph of each throw is shown, as it tends to make them try to throw harder rather than pitch.
A few years ago there was a retired HOF pitcher – I think I recall who it was, but rather not guess- who said the first thing he would do if he had the power, would be to put an end to putting the mph of the pitches up on the score board. His thoughts were that they got some of the pitchers out of their game because the focus became more on how hard the pitch was thrown rather than the effectiveness.
There are stadiums who consistently shown different rates on their scoreboards than what the TV shows. Is that more “gamesmanship”? Having batters think they are facing a faster pitch or slower pitch than they actually are?
“What do you think about Martin telegraphing pitches when he sets up…..I listen to mlb radio a lot on my lunch and Kevin Kennedy talks about it all the time…..he does set up a little early.”
blake-
i don’t see it myself, but it’s an odd thing to say by kennedy if he’s not tipping pitches .
it’s a fine line on tipping pitches by the catcher. it’s definitely something to keep an eye on.
Good question, Yogi. I’ve wondered that myself.
A few years ago there was a retired HOF pitcher – I think I recall who it was, but rather not guess- who said the first thing he would do if he had the power, would be to put an end to putting the mph of the pitches up on the score board. His thoughts were that they got some of the pitchers out of their game because the focus became more on how hard the pitch was thrown rather than the effectiveness.
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When Brad Penny was pitching in the NL West the padres used to de-juice the scoreboard because Penny always looked at his MPH after each pitch. He kept seeing 92-93 and started throwing harder and harder and lost his command.
But companies can’t juice pitchFX.
The team has control over 1 gun, the stadium gun. The broadcast teams can use data from wherever they want, either the stadium gun or pitchfx.
Oh, you mean this site.
Irreverent Discourse Blog:
http://sacrificelies.com/2011/.....discourse/
You’re so dumb, did you just google Irreverent Discourse and find that? So ID is posing as a Cubs/Rays fans on a blog he created in April, and of course was never linked in his name?
I’ve never seen Artificial Intelligence so hollow.
Blake,
Talk about chutzpah, the Braves are a team with real expectations going into this season and yet they fearlessly went with 3 rookies playing major roles (Beachy, Freeman, and Kimbrel), not to mention 21 y/o 2nd year man Heyward, and they have recently called up uber prospects Teheran, Vizcaino, Minor, and Delgado.
Mix in a young core of Venters, Hanson, O’Flaherty, Jurrjens, McCann, and Prado and you have a potential juggernaut for years to come.
Shows what solid player development and patience can get you.
Look out, he also had a failed book!
http://www.amazon.com/weather-.....B0006DFF24
Well now we know westcoast/vineyard will go around googling everyone to try and look them up. Watch out, these guys are obviously crazy
That book sounds like it was written by Borat.
Look, Ken Griffey’s a big fan of mine. Who knew?
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....5vXFWoc8CL
“The trouble with the radar readings are they can be deceptive, in they are either set wrong – giving or taking a few mph. There are many pitchers who hate that the mph of each throw is shown, as it tends to make them try to throw harder rather than pitch.”
yogi mantle-
first of all, high quality radar guns that are available to major league teams are not off by a few mph.
to me radar guns are essential for speed training either with throwing or swinging the bat.
the whole point is what feels fast usually isn’t the fastest. when you are trying to increase velocity and that’s the point of speed training you need to know what happens if you do something different. what does that difference do to the velocity.
i used a radar device for my golf swing when i was told by almost everyone including some pros it was a useless thing to do . i did it anyway. within a year of speed training i was swinging my driver 140 mph. tiger’s playing speed is 120mph for comparison.
there is no way i would have been able to do that, especially at age 50, if i couldn’t get immediate feedback on a swing move i’d try. you get immediate on what happens if you say think right hip pushing into the ball, or a lighter grip pressure, or restricting your right knee from turning backward.
sometimes you do something and jump up 5 mph. then you know you’re on to something . it won’t feel 5 mph faster. the gun tells you. it’s no different teaching hughes to gain more velocity.
a radar gun would tell him immediately what speed some mechanical change or feel would create.
as it is they are just guessing through trial and error and hughes is probably leaving 3-4 mph on the table.
Yeah right it’s all made up, just like these other sites that have been under his name.
Irreverent Discourse June 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
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Go look for yourself putz.
Irreverent Discourse June 14th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
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Irreverent Discourse May 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm
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With pleasure, lets see we have TheOnion.com, didn’t know ID made that, I like that site. A fangraphs article, ok that website is good for stats but their articles kind of suck but whatever. An MLB.com FA list? Uh ok, didn’t know ID worked for MLB, cool. And finally a yankee charity event.
So what is your end game here? I notice his ‘blog’ is not listed anywhere. And you still look like a drooling moron.
You are a complete nerd. He can change out the link in his name like most people change their socks. Get a clue.
“NERD!!” says the guy who is googling members of a public blog to try and dig up dirt on them on the internet.
Hey Vineyard, if he can change the links (which he can’t do after he has posted) why is there no link to his ‘blog’???
Whats wrong? Did West Coast forget to give you a brain?
You opened your mouth and I provided it, I don’t have an end game. The ‘blog’ link was on his name right before he put up the Golf Tourney announcement.
Convenient that he swapped it out when he was addressed as Manni here.
He can’t swap it out, so if it was ever provided it would be there, on the blog. Why can’t you find it? Do you not realize how dumb you are?
If he ever posted a single comment with that blog link as his URL, it will stay there on the blog forever. He can only change what is posted in his NEXT comment.
Do you not get that?
Its like you don’t get it.
How can you not?
The dumbest AI ever created.