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Yankees postgame: Nova mostly super again

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Ivan Nova showed something in this 9-3 win over the Angels. He showed up without his good slider and still was charged with just three runs and five hits over six-plus. Both Nova and Joe Girardi took that as an indication of growth.

“I thought he used his fastball really effectively and got a lot of ground-ball outs and guys played good defense behind him,” Girardi said. “When you don’t have your good stuff and you can do that, that’s a sign of maturing.”

It’s going to be rather hard to take Nova out of the rotation again, considering he leads all major-league rookies with 11 wins. That total also ranks him second on the staff behind CC Sabathia.

Nova is 11-4 with a 3.85 ERA, and he’s 7-0 with a 3.10 ERA over his last eight starts.

“We’ve seen him grow leaps and bounds from what he was last year and how he’s evolved and the way he’s taken ownership of his career and just went out and pitched really well,” Girardi said. “You talk about tough scenarios, the rumors that Phil Hughes is coming back from his injury; pitching in the American League East, a tough division. He’s responded very well.”

Nova kept a good attitude when he was sent to the minors July 3 to make room for Hughes.

“I think he took it as a challenge that this is the last time you’re going to send me down,” Girardi said.

And this 24-year-old pitcher indeed doesn’t want to see Scranton/Wilkes-Barre again. Nothing personal from Nova for those of you reading in the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre area.

“You never want to go back down,” Nova said. “When I got back here, that’s one of the first things I said, ‘I don’t want to go back down.’ It’s not good to have to take a bus eight, nine hours. You’ve got to leave everything you have in the game so you can stay here and don’t go back down.”

*Rafael Soriano has been brilliant since he returned from the DL July 29. Nova left him a bases-loaded, no-out mess in the seventh and Soriano cleaned most of it up in four pitches, allowing just one runner to cross on a double-play grounder and then getting a fly ball. Soriano is now perfect in five innings with five Ks since coming back. Soriano in the seventh, David Robertson in the eighth and Mariano Rivera in the ninth sure looks good on paper.

Girardi on Soriano: “I think he’s really back to himself.”

*Curtis Granderson had his third multihomer game of the season and 10th of his career. His 31 homers are a career-high, surpassing the 30 he sent up for the Tigers in 2009.

“It’s one of those things where I’m happy that I was able to get to that point, but it definitely wasn’t a goal by any means,” Granderson said. “I didn’t go in saying I want to hit ‘x’ amount of home runs. It’s just one of the things when given the opportunity, if I have a pitch to drive, I just want to drive it. If it gets out of the ballpark, great. If not, we’ve got extra bases and we could run from there.”

Granderson and Mark Teixeira (32 homers) are the only teammates in the majors now with at least 30 homers. This was the Yankees’ 115th game. According to ESPN Stats & Info, the only Yankees teammates to get to 30 homers in less team games were Mickey Mantle and Roger Maris in 1961 and Babe Ruth and Lou Gehrig. Actually, Ruth and Gehrig did it three times.

*The Yankees beat Garrett Richards, a significant achievement since they hadn’t won a game against a team with a starting pitching making his major-league debut since May 1, 2004. This snapped a six-game losing streak against those teams. 

“I hadn’t realized that,” Girardi said. “In the past, we’ve struggled against guys we haven’t seen a lot of. This year, we’ve been a little different.”

*In the series finale this afternoon, the starters will be Bartolo Colon and Tyler Chatwood.

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106 Responses to “Yankees postgame: Nova mostly super again”

  1. ben22 August 11th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    BOOBS.

  2. ben22 August 11th, 2011 at 12:17 am

    To clarify, I mean BOOBIES.

  3. AZ88 August 11th, 2011 at 12:23 am

    Ivan Nova has locked up a spot in the Yankees’ rotation, and A.J. Burnett and Phil Hughes appear to be battling for the final slot.

    Joe Girardi confirmed Nova’s spot Wednesday, a well-earned nod for the 24-year-old righty.

    http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/.....z1Ugu1qBSg

  4. pat August 11th, 2011 at 12:26 am

    Ledger_YankeesMarc Carig After the game, Nova told me about how Girardi called and texted him when he was in the minors just to check in. Says it meant a lot. #nyy

    Girardi remembers being demoted in ’89 and how hard he took it. Wanted to make sure Nova stayed encouraged so he kept in touch. #nyy

    Anyway, I wrote about it for tomorrow’s Star-Ledger. Nova thanked Girardi for the way he handled everything. #nyy

  5. ChokeXOnXFailure August 11th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    Chad/Brian/Anyone else,

    Where do you think Nova stands in Rookie of the Year contention? Do you think being sent down to the minors earlier in the year is going to hurt his chances? Who would be his major competition? Outside of Mark Trumbo (.261 BA, 22 HR, 63 RBI, but a .302 OBP), I can’t really think of anyone else who has contributed as much at the major league level. Am I missing anyone, and does Nova have a chance at all?

  6. yanks 27 August 11th, 2011 at 12:34 am

    I can’t really think of anyone else who has contributed as much at the major league level.

    ————–

    Jeremy Hellickson and Michael Pineda

  7. West Coast Yankee Fan August 11th, 2011 at 12:35 am

    Hellickson:

    10-7
    ERA – 3.05
    K’s – 86
    Walks – 48
    WHIP – 1.14

    Nova:

    11-4
    ERA – 3.85
    K’s – 67
    Walks – 41
    WHIP – 1.39

  8. UnKnown August 11th, 2011 at 12:37 am

    What is the difference in number of starts between Hellickson and Nova I wonder?

  9. ChokeXOnXFailure August 11th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Wow, yeah, how did I forget those two? I’d lean toward Hellickson over Pineda (only because Hellickson is on a better team and has marginally better numbers), but both are probably going to get votes before Nova. Good call.

  10. West Coast Yankee Fan August 11th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Nova – 19 games started

    Hellickson – 20 games started

  11. Jacob Ruppert August 11th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    If I need to rip Robinson Carewski each day to get him to perform offensively and defensively like he did tonight, thats what I’ll do.

  12. Nilsson August 11th, 2011 at 12:56 am

    Tonight Nova pitched a lot like Wang did back in his hey day. Very hard sinkers all night long.

    If he can continue complementing it with good sliders and maybe some changeups, then he’s gonna make Girardi even more happy.

  13. UnKnown August 11th, 2011 at 1:11 am

    Ick. Joe Buck is on Fallon tonight. I heard he is coming out in a Pedroia Jersey and Sux Hat.

  14. RS August 11th, 2011 at 1:54 am

    Nova does look like Wang, except his secondary stuff is a thousand times better, so his sinker doesn’t need to be perfect every time out.

  15. Smackerel August 11th, 2011 at 3:16 am

    Does he put SUPER NOVA.. no. He says, as lame as can be, Nova almost super again. Have a little excitement in your writing. This is why the blog lost so many readers when Pete left. He was an arse but at least he kept it exciting.

    Get some personality in your writing.. who hired him??

  16. pft2 August 11th, 2011 at 3:21 am

    I have to laugh. AJ 6 IP, 4 ER = Awful. Nova 6 IP, 3 ER with a couple of runners stranded =Wonderful

    Angels have a woeful offense, and the CWS/Orioles are not much better. Novas looked good but he has not really been tested since coming back up.

    That said, he should be ahead of AJ and Hughes in the rotation.

  17. yanks61 August 11th, 2011 at 3:23 am

    Would someone please be kind enough to tell me how I can go about reaching Chad with a message.

    Thanks, folks!

  18. Wang IS Taiwan August 11th, 2011 at 5:14 am

    yanks61: Chad’s email is: cjennings@lohud.com

    Thanks for the postgame report, Brian. He was indeed “mostly super” and not quite SUPER NOVA…yet. He’s freakin’ close, though, and it’s fun to watch him growing as a pitcher. Like this kid a lot.

  19. Gary August 11th, 2011 at 6:48 am

    Good to see it turn out the way it did. Must admit the Yanks got up early and then started banging ground ball after ground ball before Cano’s drive got past the outfielder. Thought to myself well LA starts their small ball cr#p and gets back into it. Glad it didn’t go that way, a really nice effort by Nova after the AJ debacle yesterday.

  20. blake August 11th, 2011 at 7:15 am

    Hellickson has been a little better than Nova this year……Pineada probably also……but both of those guys were big time prospects coming up and the fact that Nova is basically right behind them should tell a lot about the kid and hopefully will reflect well on the Yankees system as well.

    Side note…..the bad thing about the Rays is that the 2nd best pitcher in their organization right now might not even be in the big leagues…….

  21. Yankee Trader August 11th, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Yanks’ No. 2 starter is right under their noses-Kevin Kernin NYPost:

    “The 24-year-old right-hander earned a win in his sixth straight decision last night, with Joe Girardi announcing before the game that Nova had secured a rotation spot. Nova beat out both A.J. Burnett and Phil Hughes whom, Girardi indicated, are battling for the final rotation spot.”

    Attached entire article:

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....1es4si3HrK

  22. Yankee Trader August 11th, 2011 at 7:24 am

    Good morning-

    Maybe the debate has just been answered by Girardi on who is now fighting for the 5th spot-Hughes and Burnett. Also CC has said he wants to pitch every 5th day. Expecting Hughes next start to be a determining factorr!

    Another good article today in the NY Post-not my Bible!!

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....KYhYBtRQNJ

  23. blake August 11th, 2011 at 7:35 am

    Only a game back again……Lester outdueled by Blackburn last night.

  24. yanks61 August 11th, 2011 at 7:45 am

    Wang is Taiwan – Thanks very much!!

  25. 108 stitches August 11th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    When a pitcher gives you that confident feeling of being in and around the strike zone, you know it.
    C.C., Nova, Colon, and Garcia provide that feeling. Hughes is working on it. In recent weeks, Logan gives that feeling as does the entire rest of the bullpen.
    Did I miss anybody ?

  26. upstate kate August 11th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    Blackburn was due for a good start. He is on my FBB team and has been awful lately. I benched him this week, knowing he was facing the red sox, so of course he comes thru, just to spite me! I am taking credit for his win :)

    Yankees can pick up some ground today. The sox are off.

  27. upstate kate August 11th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    108
    how did you miss D-rob?

  28. Wang IS Taiwan August 11th, 2011 at 7:48 am

    yanks61: No problem!

  29. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    Ivan Nova.

    The young stud that almost got away.

    Can you imagine ?

  30. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 7:57 am

    Nova was not even a highly rated prospect.

    Was seen as a possible back end starter.

    Too funny.

    D-Rob was a 27th round pick.

    GGBG practically had to pay his way onto a ball field.

    Shows you how inexact the prospect science really is.

  31. blake August 11th, 2011 at 8:04 am

    A walk through the MVP candidates

    Granderson: .275/.367/.579/.946. 31 HRs, 104 runs, 91 RBI, 22 SB. WAR(5.2, Fangraphs)
    Gonzalez. : .343/.408/.551/.960, 18 HRs, 78 runs, 92 RBI, 1 SB, WAR (5.1, Fangraphs)
    Ellsbury: : .314/.369/.507/.876, 19 HRs, 84 runs, 72 RBI, 31 SB, WAR (5.7, fangraphs).

    Gonzalez is way ahead in avg and OBP but Granderson is stomping him or virtually tied in everything else as a CFer. He’s probably going to be a 30/30 guy and probably more like 40/30. Ellsbury actually has the highest WAR…..not sure how that’s derived unless its weighing some inaccurate defensive metric…

    Grandy for MVP! (Disclaimer…..I didn’t include Bautista because even though he’s been the best player…..I don’t think there is any chance he will win).

  32. blake August 11th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    I think its pretty clear how this is going to go…..the Yanks are going to move Hughes to the pen because he has experience there and because they will be afraid it will destroy AJ and set off a media frenzy……its not the right move but its.probably what’s going to.happen. im hoping Hughes throws a shutout this weekend and forces their hand.

  33. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Colon is still the #2 starter IMO – but Nova earned his spot. I still find it hard to believe – no, make it impossible – that AJ will be taken out of the rotation. Plus, what kind of competition is it when Joe has said that the 6 man rotation will be coming to an end soon? That means in essence that Phil had better pitch his behind off on Saturday as it could be the only chance he gets to stake his claim. If the Yankees then send him to the pen, Cashman is going to have to explain his comment from a few days ago where he said that neither Nova (obviously now) or Phil are full time relievers.

  34. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Blake-

    Hughes fate for the season is still in his hands IMO.

    The competition should keep him focused.

  35. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:15 am

    Blake, then again I can’t wait to hear Cashman explain his comment from the other day. The least they can do is send Phil down to AAA to start – up here he’s nothing but a long-man; he is going to have absolutely no role in the pen – not of any importance whatsoever (which is fine as he hasn’t earned it, but it’s mostly going to consist of sitting around waiting for the SP to struggle).

  36. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    It’s not about focus, though – it’s about having the skill set necessary to get hitters out. He could be focused as a laser, but if he doesn’t have a good curve or his cutter sucks or he doesn’t throw the change, it won’t matter. I do think that Phil has probably realized since he came up that he simply is not in the same position that he used to be with the Yankees. From now on, he’s not going to be handed anything. He has to fight for a spot now and next year he’ll have to fight for a spot in the rotation. I don’t know what motivates people, but that has to be a good motivating factor for Phil.

  37. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    This decision was made before last night – it was made when Nova replaced Hughes for last night’s game

  38. Villa Nova-Ya August 11th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Sometimes a team’s just gotta do what it’s gotta do.

    It is NOT ideal to send either Hughes or AJ to the bullpen. However, it does not appear that they will send Hughes to AAA, and I can see the reasoning for that. Even if AJ is skipped for a turn, it only postpones the decision.

    The fact is that Hughes HAS pitched with success out of the bullpen; he has done it. AJ has never been a bullpen pitcher. Virtually all of his appearances are as a starter. In addition you have to look at the emotional and psychological makeup of these two candidates. In all honesty, which of the two will have the least problem with being taken out of the rotation? Which is not to say either would be happy about it. I think Phil Hughes would take the assignment and try to make the best of it (I wouldn’t expect him to be happy about it, especially if he pitches well his next start). But I think AJ would be a basket case if he’s sent to the pen. And I don’t necessarily believe he’d be able to make that transition.

    It is not necessary for Cashman to explain what he said a week ago, or whenever he said it. It is a true statement in a vacuum. The Yankees have a situation they need to deal with, and sometimes you have to make a move that isn’t what you’d optimally do.

    Then again, the Yankees could surprise us all.

  39. Bronx Jeers August 11th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    I’ll say it again…. Phil desperately needs innings if they have any expectancy of making him a full-time starter next season.He’s at 38 right now and there’s 47 games left. 9 possible starts for him say 54- 60 innings or 90-100 innings total for 2011.

    Do they really want to submit his shoulder to another possible 80-100 inning bump next season?

  40. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Betsy-

    Hughes has been somewhat unlucky in his development.

    First the hamstring. Then the rib. Now the shoulder.

    He’s had a hard time staying healthy so far.

    That set him back.

    As we know he has a tendency to tinker too much also.

    The competion should bring out the best in him.

    Keep it simple. FB, curve, CU/cutter.

    Locate your pitches.

    If he does that he’ll succeed.

    I’d like to see Hughes take that final spot.

    I’m pulling for him.

  41. Giuseppe Franco August 11th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Cashman isn’t going to have to explain anything. Circumstances change so you have to act accordingly. It was obvious that the 6-man rotation wasn’t going to last, so someone has to go.

    Although Noesi has done a good job, but he (just like Nova a month ago) is probably going to suffer the consequences by being sent down because of seniority. That said, he’ll be back in 3 weeks when the rosters expand.

    I want to see Hughes to be a starter as well (whether it’s in Scranton or NY), but with only 50 regular season games left, it’s essentially been a lost season for him anyways and perhaps the front office will see it that way as well.

  42. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Bronx, he could still be ok based on his innings from 2010. Still, he does need as many as he can get – that’s why he should be sent to AAA.. The problem there is that the season ends in a few weeks. This is going to be a constant problem for Hughes if he can not stay healthy……………

  43. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    MTU, he always keeps it simple – he doesn’t have a very varied repertoire. Hughes’ problem is executing – he doesn’t have good secondary pitches and he tends to be mistake prone. I’m rooting for him too because while I am very skeptical of him and how good he’ll eventually be, I like him personally AND I hate the idea that this year would be just an outright waste.

  44. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Whatever happens with Hughes this season if he’s smart he’ll try to turn lemons into lemonade.

    In the offseason he should play Winter ball if that is a possibility.

    In addition, before next season starts he should go back to API and get himself 1000% ready to compete for a spot next year.

    That’s my take.

  45. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Bronx, oh that’s true about an innnings jump to next year – and then he’d have the same issue in 2013 that he had this year. I don’t think the Yankees are worried about that, though, because I’m not sure they think Phil is going to be here long term. I think if they have to make him a full time reliever, they will.

  46. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    I have to say, my only disappointment from last night was that Cano didn’t get another at bat so he could hit a single. I really wanted him to hit for the cycle. ;)

  47. Betsy August 11th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    MTU, I agree with your take on that………….API is a good idea. I don’t think he can play winter ball, but he really should. In fact, I think it’s vital.

  48. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Erin-

    And I’m sure he would have because he would know you were watching.

    And would want to please you.

    :)

  49. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    MTU- :)

    Sadly, it wasn’t meant to be last night. Hopefully he’ll get another chance to do it.

  50. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    And in the meantime, if Phil winds up in the pen I hope he throws darts and helps the team in whatever role they give him.

    ;)

  51. 108 stitches August 11th, 2011 at 8:38 am

    Kate :

    I didn’t miss D-Rob. I mentioned Logan and the entire rest of the bullpen. I’ll bet you know who the missing pitcher is.
    : )

  52. Villa Nova-Ya August 11th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    MTU -

    We are but mere spectators, so that’s the way to look at it, I think! Let the team make its decisions, and then go with the flow and root for the best outcome possible. :)

  53. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    Eyes on the prize.

    Let’s take this series tonight.

    I hope Bartolo wants revenge.

    :)

  54. blake August 11th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    If they do choose to remove Hughes then I really hope they option him to SWab and let him pitch…..that’s what he needs to do….he needs innings and that would also keep him stretched out in case another.starter gets injured……as previously mentioned he isn’t going to.have a prominant role in the pen and he has options.

    My preference would be to move AJ to the bullpen and send down Noesi to start……if they don’t do that then send Hughes down and call up Montero to replace him.

  55. blake August 11th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    AJ is a back end starter and there is no reasonable expectation at his age that that will ever change…..Hughes is 25 and has the potential to be much better than that. Sending him to the pen again would be the worst outcome IMO because it both keeps a higher upside starter out of the rotation in favor of a 34 year old #5……and it also fails to get him innings which he needs to build his arm back and be ready for next year.

    To me there should be 2 options here only…….AJ to the pen or Hughes to AAA.

  56. 86w183 August 11th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    The decision what to do about Phil Hughes is not a national security issue for cryin’ out loud! He doesn’t “desperately” need innings nor winter ball “vital”.

    He’s a young pitcher who still has not proven that he’s capable of being an effective starter for 32 games in a season.

    Nothing that happens in the next two months can/will change that fact. He’s not going to SWB no matter how much Betsy wants him to. He’s probably going to the bullpen next week to see if he can help the team there.

  57. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    VN-

    That’s exactly how I look at it.

    It’s a team and everyone needs to contribute.

    Regardless of their assigned role.

  58. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Blake-

    Let’s just see how it all plays out.

  59. blake August 11th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    “He’s a young pitcher who still has not proven that he’s capable of being an effective starter for 32 games in a season”

    That’s better than an old pitcher who hasn’t shown that either. (AJ). If Hughes would be a long man in the pen…..basically doing what Noesi is doing out there which is nothing much.

  60. blake August 11th, 2011 at 8:54 am

    MTU,

    Yea we will see …….

  61. upstate kate August 11th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    I was hoping for that too Erin…especially since his buddy Melky was the last to hit for the cycle. Grandy is only one HR behind Tex now, making me closer to winning my bet w/ my husband.

  62. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Blake-

    May not be around much this weekend.

    Going up North to hike.

    I’m counting on you to fill me in when I get back.

    ;)

  63. blake August 11th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    MTU,

    Will.do….sounds good bud

  64. blake August 11th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    “Gary Sanchez, C: 2 for 3, 2 R, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 1 BB –that’s seven homers in his last seven games … 16 HR in 342 PA … Montero hit 17 HR in 569 PA with Charleston in 2008″

    http://www.riveravenueblues.com

  65. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Blake-

    Another potential stud ?

    :)

  66. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    kate-it’d be so cool if both Cano and Melky hit for the cycle. I was at the game when Melky did it-it was awesome.

    MTU-have a great time :)

  67. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    Erin-

    Thanks. I’ll take some photos for future tributes.

    :)

  68. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    JimmyTraina Major, major props to last night’s Blue Jays for having fun w/this whole sign stealing thing. http://twitpic.com/64dbbs

  69. blake August 11th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    MTU,

    He’s had an up and down year but he’s come on lately.

  70. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Blake-

    7 dingers in as many games.

    Yeah. I’d say so.

    High A next season.

    He’s very young.

    What a pipeline.

    :)

  71. Kelvin August 11th, 2011 at 9:15 am

    I think Sanchez projects to be better then montero overall.

    Better defense at C although I believe Jesus is fine at c and critics minimize his amazing skill set.

  72. 108 stitches August 11th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Let Nova’s rise from AA last year to where he is now be a lesson to the Yankees in never making the mistake of over hyping a player such as what was done with Hughes / Chamberlain/ Kennedy.
    Playing for the most storied franchise in the game is enough of a challenge without adding pressure to it.

  73. Bret The Hitman August 11th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    How can you not LOVE Ivan Nova?

    When I mentioned the 11 wins to Nova, his first reaction was, “Wow. I think 11 is a lot for my family. I remember when I left my house in the [Dominican Republic] this year they told me that they just wanted 10. They say as a rookie in this division, 10 games is a lot…

    “I don’t think it’s a lot. I want more. We’re going to keep fighting. We’re going to keep battling. We’re going to keep pitching good games so we can get more…

    “When the team gives me that run support, I say, that’s another ‘W.’ I’m going for that ‘W.’ “

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z1Uj366nu1

    Ivan Nova is on pace for 15 wins this season.

  74. Bret The Hitman August 11th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    blake August 11th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    “Gary Sanchez, C: 2 for 3, 2 R, 2 HR, 4 RBI, 1 BB –that’s seven homers in his last seven games … 16 HR in 342 PA … Montero hit 17 HR in 569 PA with Charleston in 2008?

    http://www.riveravenueblues.com

    *************

    That’s part of the reason why the Yankees should be open to trading Montero for 1 extra year of Matt Kemp just as the Red Sox acted early on Adrian Gonzalez and traded for 1 year of him instead of hoping he fell to them in free agency. If you want a superstar, you have to be aggressive.

  75. Joe from Long Island August 11th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    108- was it the Yanks who did the hyping, or the media?

  76. upstate kate August 11th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    I enjoyed Nova’s post game comments when he talked about how much the fan reaction has meant to him. He was so touched by fans calling out his name.

    Erin
    very cool that you got to witness Melky’s cycle.

  77. Villa Nova-Ya August 11th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    108 stitches -

    In fairness to the Yankees, it’s not just their hype. Fans latch onto all the prospect ranking publications, websites, etc. and that doesn’t help matters.

    A team should be able to talk about being excited by a young prospect.

    In any event, with all the prospect ranking guides, many times it’s not the team that even initiates those discussions – the media, doing it’s job, asks about them.

  78. Jerkface August 11th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    That’s part of the reason why the Yankees should be open to trading Montero for 1 extra year of Matt Kemp just as the Red Sox acted early on Adrian Gonzalez and traded for 1 year of him instead of hoping he fell to them in free agency. If you want a superstar, you have to be aggressive.

    Because of a guy in Low A? Sorry, but you never make plans because of a guy in Low A. Sanchez has a lot of HRs, but all his other stats are worse than Montero at the same level. He isn’t really blowing away the competition like Montero. Jesus hit .326 .376 .491 .868. Gary Sanchez .257 .336 .487 .823

  79. Villa Nova-Ya August 11th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    But, 108-stitches – I do think that stuff like “The Three Caballeros,” “The Killer B’s” is always pre-mature and leads to disappointment. the Yankees don’t start the terminology but they do fall into the “shorthand” of it.

  80. Bret The Hitman August 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am

    The other part of the reason is depth at catcher: Martin, Cervelli, Romine.

    I’d go to battle with Martin, Cervelli, Romine and Sanchez and use Montero to bring in Kemp, just as the Sox traded for Gonzalez, guaranteeing he would be a Red Sox.

    Kemp is a Triple Crown threat.

    I want that guarantee.

  81. Jerkface August 11th, 2011 at 9:24 am

    Sanchez has a lot of power, but his other hit tools are not as good as Monteros. The cool thing about Sanchez is that he has better defensive tools. He is 6’2 though, so maybe everyone will start saying he is too big to catch.

  82. Jerkface August 11th, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Pass on that.

  83. Jerkface August 11th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    In 161 games over the last calendar year, Granderson has hit .271/.362/.575 with 24 doubles, ten triples, and 45 homeruns in 693 plate appearances. He’s drawn 83 walks and scored 131 runs as well, though the 164 strikeouts are a bit of an eyesore. No one’s perfect though, a few strikeouts never killed anyone. In that time, only Jose Bautista (52) has hit more homers. Only six players have hit more triples. No one has scored more runs, and only Albert Pujols (116) is with 15 runs scored of the Grandyman. He leads all center fielders is basically every significant offensive category other than batting average over the last calender year, and is near the top in those same categories among all players, regardless of position.

    http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....red-54153/

  84. Giuseppe Franco August 11th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Regarding Sanchez, the rule of thumb is you never make long term plans with a kid who is at least 3 years away from knocking on the Bronx door.

    Sanchez is an exciting prospect – no doubt. But he has a ton of work ahead of him before he even gets to where Montero is right now.

  85. MTU August 11th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    GF-

    Not only a ton of work. He has to stay healthy too. Not so easy for a Catcher.

  86. PittsburghYankeeFan August 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    I remember all of the naysayers on this blog ripping Cashman over the Jackson for Granderson trade. Now, how did this turn out? You know who you are, and we have the internet to prove it…

    Hughes versus AJ–both are number 5′s right now. Hughes will go down for 3 weeks while they sort this out.

  87. blake August 11th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    “Sanchez has a lot of power, but his other hit tools are not as good as Monteros.”

    That’s the report…..Montero is a complete hitter …..pitch selection will probably determine his ceiling. Sanchez is an exciting prospects but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s still a long way from the bigs….AA is typically the seperator…..we’ll see what he does when he gets there.

  88. austinmac August 11th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Sanchez has a long, long way to go to be a good catcher. He has a huge amount of passed balls. Let’s wait to anoint him. He is a kid.

  89. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    AnthonyMcCarron Jeter getting a DH day today. Nunez at short for Yanks, Chavez at 3b

  90. blake August 11th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Grandy for MVP…..I think he’s getting close to passing Gonzalez if you go by the numbers

  91. Bret The Hitman August 11th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    I hope Nunez gets as much practice in the field as possible before the playoffs. He needs it and the team needs his bat and speed in that lineup. I think the best Yankees lineup has Alex at DH and Nunez/Chavez at 3b.

  92. LGY August 11th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Granderson: .275/.367/.579/.946. 31 HRs, 104 runs, 91 RBI, 22 SB. WAR(5.2, Fangraphs)
    Gonzalez. : .343/.408/.551/.960, 18 HRs, 78 runs, 92 RBI, 1 SB, WAR (5.1, Fangraphs)

    ——

    How much do you want to bet that even if Grandy takes over the RBI lead, on the next national broadcast the announcers still say that A Gon leads the league in RBI?

  93. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    JonLaneNYC Today’s key stats: #Yankees MLB-best 31-8 in day games with AL-high 50 homers.

  94. 108 stitches August 11th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    Villa Nova-Ya August 11th, 2011 at 9:22 am
    But, 108-stitches – I do think that stuff like “The Three Caballeros,” “The Killer B’s” is always pre-mature and leads to disappointment. the Yankees don’t start the terminology but they do fall into the “shorthand” of it.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Probably a combination of both. Back in 2007, Cashman was so happy that the farm system was beginning to show results with prospects, he did nothing to contain the media hype of Chamberlain, Hughes, and Kennedy. These days he’s a liitle more subdued which may be why he’s cautious with Montero and others and relies on his farm system people to tell him the makeup of a player before telling the media anything.

  95. blake August 11th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    LGY,

    Oh Im sure……they don’t even look I don’t think they just assume the great Agon leads everything. Runs + RBI ……….Granderson 195, Gonzalez 170.

  96. blake August 11th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    If Granderson finishes with more homers, runs, and Rbi than Gonzalez …..it’ll be interesting to see how the voters weigh that vs Gonzalez’s BA. Remember we are talkibg about a CFer vs a 1B here……..Gonzo is a great defender…..but he’s still a 1B.

  97. Shame Spencer August 11th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    If Hughes throws heat this weekend I don’t think he’s a lock to head to the pen.

  98. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    JonLaneNYC Today in #Yankees history: 1929-Babe Ruth hits HR No. 500; 1980-Reggie Jackson hits HR No. 400.

  99. fantasygame101 August 11th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Both Hughes and aj are awful this yr but AJ is bad for longer times since he was not on the DL. Hughes is awful but still coming from an injury while awful is plain awful. Therefore the logic dictates that hughes has a better chance to be better than aj. If a bullpen or AAA demotion for hughes is sending him a signal then AJ demotion also will signal him to work hard in his locations or work hard to sustain a 96 or 97 mph thru 6.

  100. LGY August 11th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    re-post for Erin

    http://nomaas.org/2011/08/a-co.....o-no-good/

  101. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    LGY- I LOVE that! Classic stuff. :D

  102. Erin August 11th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    New Post w/lineup

    :arrow:

  103. Pville August 11th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Oh Im sure??they don?t even look I don?t think they just assume the great Agon leads everything. Runs + RBI ???.Granderson 195, Gonzalez 170.

    Since HRs are counted in both RBI and Runs you really should subtract then from the total. The total runs produced would be 164 for Granderson and 152 for Gonzalez

  104. RayVT August 11th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    :->:

  105. RayVT August 11th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    :>:

  106. RayVT August 11th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    :arrow:

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