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Freddy Garcia injured

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Freddy Garcia cut a finger on his pitching hand four or five days ago in a kitchen accident, according to Joe Girardi, so he has been scratched from tomorrow’s start and the decision about who to cut from the rotation will now be delayed. A.J. Burnett will take the start tomorrow, weather permitting, because the forecast sounds bad.

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  1. syd_cash August 13th, 2011 at 7:50 pm

    Freddie Garcia is no longer allowed to use kitchen tools

  2. cs in la August 13th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    Kitchen accident my ass. Is this how the Yankees deal with rotation decisions?

  3. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 7:51 pm

    OMG -

    I am sorry for Garcia, but this is too funny to be true!

    The Yankees get to not have to make any decision. And our intrepid reporters did not know about this??????

  4. NYY fan in NH August 13th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    very interesting this crops up the day before the big decision.

  5. m August 13th, 2011 at 7:52 pm

    What a great game. Nice outing from Hughes. Posada mashing the ball.

    Too bad about Freddy, but this is why we had the 6-man going. I wonder if Colon will come up with a minor ailment next week? And then we’ll be up to DH in no time.

  6. jpb173 August 13th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Freddie Garcia is no longer allowed to use kitchen tools

    =====================================

    Maybe Freddy will use the time off to develop a new pitch…maybe he can learn the cutter. :)

  7. Niblick August 13th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    Betsy, take your own advice. You haven’t had an original thought all season.

  8. m August 13th, 2011 at 7:53 pm

    lol, so many cynics here!

  9. 108 stitches August 13th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Why couldn’t it have been Burnett that cut his hand ? The Rays must be salivating at the thought of facing Burnett, weather permitting.

  10. Mordot11 August 13th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    This is insane. Does anyone really believe that he cut himself? I am curious how much the Yankees are paying him on the side to skip a start during a season in which, outside of CC, he has been the Yankees’ most reliable starter.

    I really hope that Cashman is gone after this season. He is worse than Girardi and has managed to win one World Series with teams that he has built himself. Sorry Cash, winning with teams built by Stick doesn’t count.

  11. m August 13th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    Or is it skeptics? Oh, well. Plenty of both, I guess.

  12. mick August 13th, 2011 at 7:55 pm

    4-5 days ago is when the cut occurred….how did they keep it under wraps.
    another stealth move by cash.
    at his creative best this year, his walk year.

  13. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Niblockhead, let’s play a little game called Hangman:

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

    I’m guessing this might take you all night. Good luck!

  14. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    Well this is a comical diversion.

  15. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    What do we think Freddy was cooking?

    Ratatouille?

  16. ron August 13th, 2011 at 7:56 pm

    They are resting garcia,colon so they can delay the rotation decision by skipping a start from everybody.

    Hughes pitched 6 innings/4 hits/1 walk,wich is a whip under 1.

    Also 6 strikeouts.

    Great numbers.

  17. Nilsson August 13th, 2011 at 7:57 pm

    That’s fine. It wouldn’t hurt to skip the older pitchers like Garcia and Colon through their turns.

    I liked Hughes’s start. He threw about 15 changeups. I think he gets hit harder if he didn’t have that pitch today. Goes to show how important it can be for his repertoire going forward.

  18. fantasygame101 August 13th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    Give way to burnett to prove himself one more time. If burnett stinks tomorrow then he is to the bullpen. Guess Hughes proves himself to them.

    With Posada hitting 3 of 5 and was a key factor, I will have my answer in the couple of days to my question, what will they do if he hit this time? I thought posada will really hit 5 for 5.

  19. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    “according to Joe Girardi”

  20. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 7:39 pm
    RadioKev,
    Nova has earned a spot, and it’s not Hughes’ spot hes taking. Ilove Hughes for next year, and for the rest of this one, if that’s how it works out, but it shouldn’t be thought of as Hughes vs. Nova.
    ——–

    It’s actually Colon who took the spot if anyone wants to get specific. He was the long man who replaced Hughes on the DL. It’s just that Nova had options. I think it was the best thing for Nova since it gave him a chance to work on his slider and become a better pitcher.

    Colon just turned out to be a very nice surprise. :D Give him some days off and he could be stellar in the post.

    I think having a 6man in september with CC going 5 and everyone else rotating around him would work out very well.

    Whomever they put in the pen in the meantime (depending on Garcia’s injury), then so be it. Here are my candidates in alphabetical order:

    AJ – He started out great, using his CU alot, which was a great pitch for him. There were a couple of games where it was his best pitch. He got into a slump where he’s pitching medicore but not dominating for long stretches. And he’s clearly pressing right now. This could give him breathing room. Take off pressure & allow him to focus on his CU and he can come back in september with a fresh mindset & get back to what he did early on.

    Colon – Dude is tiring out. Walking more batters. Gassing out at 6 innings. This could give him a breather and help him get his strength & endurance back.

    Phil – Has been a reliever before & is great at it. This would also reduce the chance of his velocity fading over the next couple of outings.

    NOT:

    CC – for obvious reasons.

    Garcia – seems like he’d be slow at warming up, though it could work, But I’m not sold.

    Nova – is on a role. Let him keep pitching.

  21. 4 train August 13th, 2011 at 7:58 pm

    last year some dudes would have burgers when hughes won. maybe they can take betsy with them . she’s a closet hughes fan

  22. pft2 August 13th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    I guess nobody noticed the bandage on his finger for the past few days or the fact he did not throw between starts (at least not without going ouch).

    If lying about injuries were a crime both the Red Sox and Yankees would be doing life in prison.

    In any event, a convenient injury if true, except the wrong guy got cut.

  23. BoJo August 13th, 2011 at 7:59 pm

    mick August 13th, 2011 at 7:51 pm
    ____________________-
    BoJo August 12th, 2011 at 7:02 pm
    I wouldn’t assume anything about what Cashman and Girardi do with the rotation. Expect to be surprised.

  24. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Joe Girardi “managing like it’s 2008 all over again!”

  25. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:01 pm

    Niblick August 13th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Maybe go out on a ‘date’………….LOL ! !

  26. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    If I’m AJ, I’m wishing for Garcia to miraculously recover. Yankees can’t hit Shields. That’s an automatic loss. Bad luck for a guy who really needs a break

  27. devcon13 August 13th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    “because the forecast sounds bad”

    Is it because of the weather or the fact AJ is starting

  28. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:02 pm

    So, wait, no one believes Garcia cut his finger???

  29. Yogi Mantle August 13th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    It does seem a bit odd timing wise, though if they were to “dump” one of the pitchers, wouldn’t it have been more likely that AJ was the one to get the cut?

  30. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    I also don’t buy that Hughes’ fastball will play up in the pen as well as it did in 2009. Pitching more often seems to have helped him regain his strength. To me, in my unprofessional opinion, I think it’s a different situation.

  31. ron August 13th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    Hughes

    46 fastballs
    12 changeups
    25 curveballs
    13 cutters

    It’s going to take time for hughes to get over last years workload & his recent injury,wich i believe got in his head.

    He is mixing his pitches better.

    I’d like to see a few more changeups,but heading in the right direction.

    I knew hughes would pitch well,had no doubts at all.

  32. m August 13th, 2011 at 8:05 pm

    Nah, I believe that Garcia cut his finger. But it buys them a day to figure out what they’re going to do with the rotation.

    I’m glad that Hughes is staying up, though.

  33. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:06 pm

    like these cut finger accidents..have a employee who for the last two years in a row went on a two week vacation only to come back and have a cut hand due to a kitchen accident, and went on light duty for two weeks… little off topic but

  34. West Coast Yankee Fan August 13th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Niblick August 13th, 2011 at 7:41 pm

    Betsy, nothing will be good enough for you when it comes to Phil, so why don’t you go find another hobby, like kicking puppies, so we don’t have to read the same old stuff from you. You’re boring.

    **********

    Truth.

  35. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:07 pm

    Maybe it’s the couple of glasses of wine with dinner, but I’m having a lot of difficulty following this particular thread.

    The Yankees won today.

    Hughes pitched well.

    Garcia is hurt and can’t pitch his next start.

    It’s AJ’s turn tomorrow against Shields???? Already? Seems like he just pitched yesterday.

    (I can’t keep track of the pitching rotation these days – anyone else feel the same?)

    And, yes, they can beat Shields.

    Also I just want to go on record for:

    1) i wanted the Yankees to sign Damon. They did.
    2) I wanted the Yankees to sign Teixeira. They did.
    3) I wanted the the Yankees to sign Grandy. They did.

    My new want: I want the Yankees to sign Price.

  36. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:08 pm

    ESPN New York is reporting that ‘Negative Nellie’ is in the running to succeed Jean Afterman as Ass’t GM to Brian Cashman.

  37. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Girardi said on the post game that the cut affected his grip on the split and he couldn’t throw it right…..

    Great game today…..so many positive things to talk about.

    I wrote a few days back that I hope Jorge has his day in the sun at the stadium sometime before the season ends…..today was one of those days and I hope it’s not the last. So happy for him.

    Hughes didn’t have his best fastball today but that’s some of the best “pitching” I’ve seen him do….he kept the ball down and mixed his pitches so well. That’s the best I’ve ever seen him use his changeup. He was throwing it in different counts….even 2-0 once and it was just a really effective pitch for him vs lefties today. Very encouraged by how he’s progressing….

    That said about Phil…..they can’t take him out of the rotation…. this cut thing with Garcia is going to give them more time to evaluate but at some point they have to make a decision and if Hughes continues to pitch like he has his last 2 starts then they have to leave him in.

    Just as a side note……today I discovered that 90% of the reason I can’t stand FOX broadcasts actually isn’t McArver…..it’s Joe Buck.

  38. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Joeman,
    Was once in the tree and shrub business, and often we people came back from a break, they’d hurt their back, sprained an ankle, etc. It happens, but…

  39. m August 13th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    A little off topic, but I think it’s cool that Hellickson’s dad was there for his 50th. Too bad Hellickson didn’t give him a ND for his birthday instead. But does anyone else think they couldn’t look any different. Jeremy has that pretty boy look, and his dad looks like he’s had a rough life.

  40. West Coast Yankee Fan August 13th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    ron August 13th, 2011 at 8:03 pm

    46 fastballs
    12 changeups
    25 curveballs
    13 cutters

    It’s going to take time for hughes to get over last years workload & his recent injury,wich i believe got in his head. He is mixing his pitches better. I’d like to see a few more changeups,but heading in the right direction. I knew hughes would pitch well,had no doubts at all.

    ***************

    STOP THE PRESSES!

    What is wrong with you? Haven’t you read Bestsy Boop? Hughes HAS NO SECONDARY PITCHES. NO CURVE, NO CHANGE, NO CUTTER.

  41. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    aj pitching for his life tmw….bad outing, he may get cut, literally…DL Freddy for Alex???..better yet for Montero. The new surprise Monday move?

  42. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    didn’t catch much of the game today….what was Phil hitting on the gun with his FB

  43. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Wait: Is Betsy not happy with Phil’s outing today?

  44. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:11 pm

    blake…true buck brings out the worst in timmy

  45. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Joe Buck is the worst baseball announcer. I’ll forgive McCarver because he’s senile, but Buck always sounds negative, like he isn’t even enjoying the game. Counter opposite to the YES guys who you can tell really love it.

    Buck is better suited for the warfare of football than an enjoyable game of baseball.

  46. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    # tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:09 pm

    Joeman,
    Was once in the tree and shrub business, and often we people came back from a break, they’d hurt their back, sprained an ankle, etc. It happens, but…
    ——————
    and B Colon will win the comeback player of the year…ass wipe

  47. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Hate to say it but I hope AJ gets rocked (implodes) tomorrow, weather permitting. Maybe that will wake Cashman and Girardi up and make the rotation decision plain and simple. Find a way to get Burnett out of there.

  48. yankee 221 August 13th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    BryanHoch So… what if Hughes pitched well and Garcia was healthy? “I don’t have to answer that question. That’s the beauty of this,” Girardi said.

  49. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 8:12 pm

    Blake, as a Bears fan, I can tell you that they hate Buck as well. I don’t know too many people, period, who like him.

    Phil showed in 2010 ST that he was capable of throwing a nice changeup, but he didn’t follow up on it. He just has to use it – not a lot, maybe, but often enough so that he doesn’t lose the feel – it will help him. As I said earlier, I think Joe would like to see more of Phil in the rotation, as opposed to Cashman, who I suspect wants AJ starting so he can prove everyone wrong. I know it sounds petty, but I’m not thrilled with this version of Cashman. In any case, there’s no way he can go to the pen – well, maybe in the post-season, but not now.

  50. m August 13th, 2011 at 8:13 pm

    I missed Buck. Because it was all McCarver. I can’t believe he used the word “pathetic”. Yeah, it might have been, but how about some being professional and not getting personal?

  51. yankee 221 August 13th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    “Hate to say it but I hope AJ gets rocked (implodes) tomorrow, weather permitting. Maybe that will wake Cashman and Girardi up and make the rotation decision plain and simple. Find a way to get Burnett out of there.”

    Couldn’t agree more. I’d trade a somewhat innocuous regular season loss for AJ being removed from the rotation. Though knowing this regime, we will lose the game AND AJ will stay in the rotation. We can hope though…. that they do the right thing.

  52. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    # Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Wait: Is Betsy not happy with Phil’s outing today?
    ================================
    Wait: You haven’t heard?

  53. West Coast Yankee Fan August 13th, 2011 at 8:14 pm

    Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:10 pm

    Wait: Is Betsy not happy with Phil’s outing today?

    *************

    No she was not. She said “it was not good enough.”

  54. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Yea McCarver isn’t a great broadcaster….but he’s fair and objective and he does know the game. Buck is dreadful and it was so obvious today when he wasn’t there how terrible he is…….

  55. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    blake

    Thanks for your last post. I was not able to watch 100% today and I wanted to know how Hughes did.

    And, I agree, Buck is the wild card there. It was not a bad broadcast at all. I wasn’t able to listen 100%, but when I was watching, it was absolutely not the same as it is when Buck is there. It was manageable, for sure. Last week, I couldn’t watch/listen to Fox at all. Great improvement today. Maybe Buck will “retire” from baseball?

  56. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:15 pm

    Blake,
    I said in the game thread that this was one of the most thoroughly satisfying games of the season. Fine pitching, great hitting, wonderful defense (with one exception, an error of judgment), What’s not to like?

  57. m August 13th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    The only thing I like about McCarver is that he’s old school. And he’s not afraid to wear gingham. But that’s all I’m going to concede.

  58. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:16 pm

    mick -

    No, I didn’t read the game thread.

  59. 4time August 13th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    It will be hilarious if they remove Burnett from the rotation after the way Cashman went off on everyone about how wrong we all are about AJ and how it is “crap” to suggest removing him from the rotation.

    It would be the right move and would show they are more concerned about winning games than looking good or stroking egos (in this case, Burnetts AND Cashman’s). But we know the odds are against it.

  60. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    m -

    McCarver used to be a good announcer. In fact, at one time, he was “A breath of fresh air” but that was a very very long time ago….

    Now, he’s mainly a caricature of himself.

  61. BoJo August 13th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Wow–a lot of tough guys picking on one woman. You are truly manly men.

  62. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    As I said earlier, I think Joe would like to see more of Phil in the rotation, as opposed to Cashman, who I suspect wants AJ starting so he can prove everyone wrong. I know it sounds petty, but I’m not thrilled with this version of Cashman. In any case, there’s no way he can go to the pen – well, maybe in the post-season, but not now.
    ===========================
    Nonsense. Phil earned another start. Cash is just keeping AJ in the mix over Freddy now.
    All is subject to change. Its called competition without the 6 man ro.

  63. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Betsy,

    If he can become comfortable enough to make the change his 3rd pitch and use it effectively vs lefties then it’s going to help him so much……he’s gotten back to fastball/curve being his main attack…..I really liked what I saw today because he threw a great game without his best fastball….that’s progress and that’s what he’s needed to work on.

  64. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Joeman,
    Didn’t mean to offend you, but why did you call me an ass wipe?

  65. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:20 pm

    No she was not. She said “it was not good enough.”

    =============

    Not to worry, it’s never good enough for ‘Nellie’. Hughes could throw a 2 hit, CG shutout and ‘Nellie’ would find fault in how he wore his uniform.

  66. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 8:21 pm

    Bojo, it’s no big deal – they give me ammo, which I love. I just ignore them mostly, so if they are trying to hurt or insult me, they are failing miserably.

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  68. Nilsson August 13th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    One thing about Gardner’s defense today. It was a 7-1 lead when he made the diving attempt in left-center gap. Yes, it was a low probability attempt. But given the circumstances — his crazy speed and a 6-run lead at the time — it wasn’t a bad judgement play.

  69. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:22 pm

    McArver knows baseball….he’s just old and I’m not sure he keeps up with the current guys playing as much as he could…..Buck just acts like he would rather be somewhere else and it’s really hard to listen to. I heard him say on the radio a few weeks ago that he’d be willing to step aside for Scully in the World Series during his last season if he wanted to call the WS…..that would be something.

    Tom,

    it really was….great day. So happy for Jorge. I hope he has another day or two like this

  70. BoJo August 13th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 8:21 pm
    Bojo, it’s no big deal – they give me ammo, which I love. I just ignore them mostly, so if they are trying to hurt or insult me, they are failing miserably.
    ____
    Good for you…keep speaking your mind…those guys are hypocrits and morons.

  71. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Blake, that’s why he must stay as a starter – if not in the rotation, then in AAA. This has been close to a wasted year for Phil – close, but not quite there. While I don’t believe AJ has been bad enough to warrant removal, sometimes you have to adjust on the fly. The Yankees need to find out what they may or may not have in Hughes, esp. if they intend to start him next year.

  72. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:23 pm

    Here’s the latest Villa–

    # Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Good job by Phil, but I don’t think it was enough. I’m not sure how Girardi is thinking, but Cashman is going to send AJ out there if for no other reason to back up his rant yesterday. I just hope they send Phil to AAA and not to the pen.

  73. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Eh….with a 6 run lead I don’t mind Gardner trying to catch that ball…..I think he cuts it off if the game is closer. It probably was an error in judgement but I just can’t get him much grief about anything he does defensively

  74. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 8:24 pm

    Bojo, I get in my jabs, lol. They’re internet bullies – nothing more. The only reason I don’t call them hypocrites is because it’s too big of a word; Dick and Jane is more their speed.

  75. BoJo August 13th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Well–obviously people are in attack mode tonight and there will be no baseball chatter…just psuedo-macho blog fighting. I’m out. Night to the sane ones.

  76. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    How about Taking Betsy’s posts in context?

    I went back to read some of the game thread.

    Seems to me, Betsy gave Phil a lot of credit for the way he mixed pitches today.

    I can’t speak for Betsy but she seemed to be saying it may not be enough to change the Yankees’ minds about what they planned to do.

    ***

    Anyway – seems Garcias’ 4-day-old kitchen injury suddenly became an issue after Hughes pitched well.

    Coincidence???

  77. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    “Blake, that’s why he must stay as a starter – if not in the rotation, then in AAA. This has been close to a wasted year for Phil – close, but not quite there. ”

    I agree about AAA…..however the season isn’t over yet and if he helps them win in the playoffs then Hughes could still have a great season because in the end that’s all that matters. The first half of the season don’t matter anymore….all that matters is what he does going forward from here…..they need to find out what he can give them this year

  78. West Coast Yankee Fan August 13th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    BoJo August 13th, 2011 at 8:18 pm

    Wow–a lot of tough guys picking on one woman. You are truly manly men.

    ***********

    Oh I see Blojo. So in your sick misogynist world women are to be treated differently is that right? Patronized and different standards? Why don’t you go post some more of the vulgar, sexist garbage that you are known for.

  79. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:26 pm

    4time August 13th, 2011 at 8:17 pm

    ‘It will be hilarious if they remove Burnett from the rotation after the way Cashman went off on everyone about how wrong we all are about AJ’……….

    ============

    Remember that Girardi and Rothschild are going to ‘fix’ him…………..13 years in the league now and an almost sub. 500 winning percentage and he still ain’t fixed and never will be.

  80. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Villa, that’s exactly what I meant…….. Mick the P _ _ _ _ knows exactly what he’s doing and he’s not fooling anyone. Well, he and his best buddies will very likely have this place to themselves tonight – hope they enjoy it

  81. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    Well AJ gets his shot tomorrow…..rubber game of a 3 game set against a division team and their #2 is going for them…..lets see how he reacts.

  82. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:28 pm

    BoJo August 13th, 2011 at 8:25 pm

    Good, go play with your imaginary rally cats.

  83. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    # tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:19 pm

    Joeman,
    Didn’t mean to offend you, but why did you call me an ass wipe?
    ——————————–
    sorry didn’t mean it just a reflex

  84. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    Blake, agreed……….

  85. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:29 pm

    When someone is highly critical and opinionated they will get called on it, man or woman.

  86. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 8:30 pm

    I don’t believe for one minute that this accident is a fake just to give AJ another chance. If that’s the case, they might as well put him in the pen now because they’re setting him up for another loss considering they’re going up against Shields. A lot of quick 1-2-3 innings for our offense.

  87. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    joeman,
    “Sorry” accepted. But why shouldn’t Colon be considered for comeback of the year?

  88. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    It’s pathetic that people actually want one of our pitchers to get rocked.

    Geez…. Just put AJ in the pen and call it day. Glass half full: it could actually help him and keep the vultures away. :lol:

  89. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:33 pm

    If Shields gives up 1 run AJ will give up 2. If he gives up 10, AJ will go with 11.

  90. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    Seriously,

    Didn’t AJ just pitch??? How can he be up tomorrow???

    Or, has it just been all AJ all the time because of the controversy?

    TIme sure flies when you’re having fun….

  91. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:34 pm

    The outcry over Burnett has been more over emotion. This is probably because the Yankees are firmly ensconced in a playoff spot and fans are not happy unless they complain. Especially spoiled Yankees fans.

  92. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:35 pm

    # tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:32 pm

    joeman,
    “Sorry” accepted. But why shouldn’t Colon be considered for comeback of the year?
    ————————
    because Ellsbury is getting it along with a lot of MVP votes

  93. 4time August 13th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    It’s pathetic that people actually want one of our pitchers to get rocked.

    Geez…. Just put AJ in the pen and call it day. Glass half full: it could actually help him and keep the vultures away. :lol:

    =======

    But the only conceivable way that he is going to get bumped to the pen is if he bombs tomorrow.

  94. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    joeman,
    Ellsbury is back from an injury. Colon’s back from the dead.

  95. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    AJ aint going to the pen…He will pitch well or get knifed.

  96. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Beckett vs Felix tonight….might have to stay up and watch a bit of that.

  97. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:34 pm
    The outcry over Burnett has been more over emotion. This is probably because the Yankees are firmly ensconced in a playoff spot and fans are not happy unless they complain. Especially spoiled Yankees fans.

    ——

    True. Burnett’s crime against humanity was being average for the past few weeks. Let’s take him out back and shoot him!

    Seriously, I don’t know how anyone can perform under the pressure of such hatred. I’m really starting to believe he has to go to the pen. If for no other reason than to regroup and stop the flush of negativity swarming his way.

  98. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    Wow –

    Mets broadcasters really focused on Pelfrey speaking off the cuff.

  99. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:40 pm

    Freddy looks like the odd man out.

  100. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    4time August 13th, 2011 at 8:36 pm
    It’s pathetic that people actually want one of our pitchers to get rocked.

    Geez…. Just put AJ in the pen and call it day. Glass half full: it could actually help him and keep the vultures away.

    =======

    But the only conceivable way that he is going to get bumped to the pen is if he bombs tomorrow.

    ———

    Would it be so awful if AJ finally got the monkey off his back & pitched the way he did early on for the rest of the season & beyond.

    Mind you, I think he can. BUT not with the pressure he’s under & the cry for his head. It’s one thing to have pressure & people rooting for you, it’s another to know that everyone wants you gone.

  101. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 8:41 pm

    Meanwhile, with every passing day, Granderson plays himself into a position where you’ve got to ask – how is this guy not an MVP?

  102. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:42 pm

    General observations on Hughes from last 2 starts.

    -He is working much faster….he knows what he wants to throw and is just getting the ball and throwing it….that’s always a good sign
    -his delivery looks more fluid and less mechanical and he’s really driving towards the plate again and that’s helping him drive the ball down in the zone more often.
    -he’s throwing his curveball harder….76-78 now it seems instead of 72-74….tighter, harder break.
    -he’s pitching in more than he has in the past with the fastball
    -he’s throwing less cutters
    -he’s gaining more confidence in the changeup and really is using it more effectively…..throwing it behind in the count and early in counts…..he threw some really good ones today 84-85 mph

    like what I’m seeing as all these things are positive and addressed what he needed to work on.

  103. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    Truly , if AJ doesn’t show some guts, he will join Freddy on kitchen patrol.
    Both won’t be on the playoff roster.

  104. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:43 pm

    The worst problem (or the best) for the Yankees to have is for 6 guys to be pitching well, isn’t it?

  105. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    “Meanwhile, with every passing day, Granderson plays himself into a position where you’ve got to ask – how is this guy not an MVP?”

    I think he is….Heyman said it today…..hopefully more writers will start to take notice and realize that he’s carried the Yankees for stretches of the season when Alex and Jeter were out….and when other players have struggled. Not to mention that he’s putting up MONSTER numbers for a CF. He’s leading the leagues in RBI, HR, and runs (by a bunch). He should be the leader

  106. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:44 pm

    # tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:37 pm

    joeman,
    Ellsbury is back from an injury. Colon’s back from the dead.
    ———————
    look at past comeback players of the year all, most were players coming off injury, so what your saying is that Colon is having a better year than Ellsbury

  107. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:45 pm

    Radio Kev -

    Would it be nice if the voters were presented the numbers without name, without a team attached?

  108. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    4time August 13th, 2011 at 8:36 pm

    Unfortunately by putting him in pen he will be last in the pecking order as everyone else is better than him currently.

  109. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 8:46 pm

    Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:43 pm
    The worst problem (or the best) for the Yankees to have is for 6 guys to be pitching well, isn’t it?
    ——

    OMG Someone actually makes sense. *Gold Star*

    Imagine a rotation & bullpen with everyone pitching well down the stretch. SP could go lights out for 5-6 knowing we have 2 longmen who rock! Won’t have to burn So-Ro-Mo

  110. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:47 pm

    4 starters are all that’s needed for the playoffs and AJ and Freddy are on the outside looking in…its obvious they want CC-Nova-Colon -Hughes, in that order.
    Nice to have 2 more starters as insurance.
    May the best men win.

  111. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    joeman,
    I give up, but I’ll just add that Colon, miracle that he is, means more to the Yanks than Ellsbury does to the Sox.

  112. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    Wait – I think I got it finally. Is AJ getting tomorrow’s start because of Garcia’s injury?

    And I know the weather report is really dismal, so they may not even play, right?

  113. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    The pen, as it is now, does not need AJ or Freddy in it.
    They are fine as is.

  114. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    # tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:48 pm

    joeman,
    I give up, but I’ll just add that Colon, miracle that he is, means more to the Yanks than Ellsbury does to the Sox.
    ——————————–
    LOL…wonder if that is even true

  115. JobaTipsHisCap August 13th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    AJ is given another chance

  116. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    If they don’t play, you conveniently skip AJ’s turn.
    Let him think about it like Jorge has.
    It seems to work…

  117. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    tomingeorgia,

    I think an argument could be made that Colon is an MVP candidate.

  118. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    joeman,
    I said, I give up!

  119. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    mick

    Wouldn’t AJ just pitch the next game if there’s a rainout? I don’t think they’d actually skip him a full turn.

  120. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    Villa,
    Never made that argument, but he’s surely been a revalation for the Yanks.

  121. West Coast Yankee Fan August 13th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    WOW! When your own catcher throws you under the bus you know you are done.

    ATLANTA — The Chicago Cubs placed Carlos Zambrano on the disqualified list Saturday and said the right-hander would receive no pay and have no part in team activities for 30 days.

    Zambrano cleaned out his locker and left the team after giving up five homers and being ejected from Friday night’s 10-4 loss to the Braves. He did not return to the team Saturday.

    General manager Jim Hendry said Saturday that Zambrano’s actions, including a brush-back pitch to Chipper Jones that led to the ejection, were “intolerable.”

    “This was the most stringent penalty we could enforce without a release,” Hendry said.

    Cubs pitcher Ryan Dempster had similarly strong words. “He’s made his bed. Let him sleep in it,” Dempster said. “It’s not like it’s something new.”

  122. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:54 pm

    # tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 8:53 pm

    joeman,
    I said, I give up!
    ——————-
    K

  123. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:38 pm

    AJ aint going to the pen…He will pitch well or get knifed.

    =========

    Literally ?………..LOL !

  124. blake August 13th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Montero not playing for Scranton tonight….packing for KC? probably not but hey who knows

  125. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    I’ll take AJ/Freddie/whomever on 6man over Noesi in the playoffs as the longman. If you don’t think we’ll need long men after watching the redsox series, then you weren’t paying attention.

    Colon as comeback player of the year.

    Grandy as the MVP. He carried this team when Jeter & A-rod were out. :D

  126. RadioKev August 13th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    Imagine if the MVP vote came down to the best ratio of cost:performance.

  127. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    they have announced the next 3 starters and they are Nova, Colon and CC—no more extra days rest.

  128. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 8:55 pm

    # Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 8:51 pm

    tomingeorgia,

    I think an argument could be made that Colon is an MVP candidate.
    ——————–
    OK sounds good

  129. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    Wouldn’t AJ just pitch the next game if there’s a rainout? I don’t think they’d actually skip him a full turn.
    ================
    when you’re the 5th starter that happens

  130. Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap August 13th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    AJ is given another chance

    ===========

    He has had far too many already.

  131. mick August 13th, 2011 at 8:59 pm

    joe and cash knew it would rain tmw, that’s why aj is pitching…
    just like they knew freddy would get knifed.

  132. m August 13th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    Are they expecting bad weather tomorrow? When would they make up that game?

    Off-topic, but I just finished watching Season 4 of The Wire. I have to say that it is the single most compelling season of television drama I have ever seen. Great story lines, and the focus on the kids made it so rich.

  133. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 9:00 pm

    I just checked the weather. Yep, looks bad. As Girardi said, things have a way of working itself out. AJ gets skipped and LoHud can take a deep breath. If he needs the work, he can always pitch in KC from the bp ;)

  134. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    next step is to DL freddy and bring up Jesus.

  135. m August 13th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    WCYF,

    The Cubs beat writer was on espn radio today. He said Soriano has always been a Zambrano supporter, but even he said what the volatile pitcher did was “weak”. (not sure if he meant throwing 2x at Chipper Jones or some subsequent action like clearing his locker and saying he quit)

  136. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 9:02 pm

    I don’t think Colon would actually be an MVP; but I do think the contributions he’s made to this team this year have to put him in some of the conversation for it. It all depends on your definition of MVP.

    Certainly, award or not, Colon has provided much more to the team than was ever imagined.

    I think if Grandy was not up against A Gonzalez, he would definitely get the MVP. But we all know how that stuff works.

    joeman -

    cost:performance is an interesting interpretation of the award.

  137. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:03 pm

    if the freddy knife fight was 4-5 days ago , can they make it retroactive?

  138. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    Tomorrow is supposed to be absolutely horrid weather-wise. Our plans for tomorrow were already cancelled because of expected severe weather.

  139. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    * The Yankees will not release catcher Jorge Posada, which is why they’re having trouble squeezing prospect Jesus Montero to the big leagues. The Yanks do not want to go to an 11-man pitching staff, which they’d have to do if they called up Montero.

    ———————————-
    so Montero won’t be here until 9/1

  140. m August 13th, 2011 at 9:04 pm

    I don’t feel that pitchers should get the MVP, unless there’s a dearth of worthy candidates. I feel a position player should get it. And if Ortiz had his way, a DH would get them, too. :)

  141. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:05 pm

    colon has been going 5-6 innings lately, he seems tired…having the 6 man is important insurance.

  142. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    The yanks have a 13 man staff as of now…..

  143. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 9:06 pm

    Villa,
    If cost/performance was a criterion, then Colon wins hands down over Ellsbury.

  144. blake August 13th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    “The Yanks do not want to go to an 11-man pitching staff, which they’d have to do if they called up Montero”

    not if they sent Cervelli down.

  145. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

    Nova and Gardner are in the cost/performance mix

  146. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    Nick,
    Right on.

  147. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    yanks arent going with a 13 man staff much longer
    alex will be up soon and a pitcher will go down
    you can dl freddy and bring up montero tmw

  148. Villa Nova-Ya August 13th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    m -

    The way the “system” is set up, I’d have to agree with you. But I think there should be a separate award for best position player. That would open up the MVP to be either a pitcher or a position player.

    So far, no one at MLB is taking my suggestion. LOL

  149. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:09 pm

    who is nick?

  150. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 9:10 pm

    not like Ellsbury is breaking the bank

  151. Yogi Mantle August 13th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Colon has done a great job especially when the expectations were not all that high. I think he is more likely to be considered for the comeback player of the year over MVP.

  152. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    Quote of the Night

    “Things have a way of working themselves out.”

    Joe Girardi

  153. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 9:11 pm

    mick,
    Sorry, you are to whom I meant to reply. Typo.

  154. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    Freddie can’t even do a bp session until his finger is 100% or else he’ll resplit the cut. Without his splitter, he’ll get lit up. So that’s another week until he’s ready. DL him & bring up Montero.

  155. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:12 pm

    ok tomin.

  156. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    Freddie can’t even do a bp session until his finger is 100% or else he’ll resplit the cut. Without his splitter, he’ll get lit up. So that’s another week until he’s ready. DL him & bring up Montero.
    ===============
    That’s the Monday Surprise.

  157. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    joeman,
    But he will.

  158. joeman August 13th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    # tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 9:13 pm

    joeman,
    But he will.
    ———————
    for sure

  159. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:14 pm

    Cash and Joe work well together.
    Good cop, bad cop.
    Jorge and Phil are coming around.
    Next they turn their attention to AJ.

  160. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 9:15 pm

    mick, I like surprises :D

  161. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:17 pm

    looks like the mutual admiration society of betty, pres, blojo, vp et al are gone for the evening , what a crew….paranoia strikes deep.

  162. lounge lizard August 13th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    They’re not going to DL Freddy for Montero because they are already planning on sending down a pitcher for Alex. If they do both, then the roster goes from 13 pitchers to 11 pitchers, which isn’t happening.

  163. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:19 pm

    to quote betty: mick knows what he’s doing…why thanks…talk about playing the victim card.

  164. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 9:20 pm

    mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
    Cash and Joe work well together.
    Good cop, bad cop.
    Jorge and Phil are coming around.
    Next they turn their attention to AJ.
    —–

    Good analysis. Probably why Cashman supported AJ in public. He’s trying to push that button, which probably relates to some sort of abandonment issues.

    I think Cashman realizes that a good AJ is more beneficial to this team in the long run. So I think the rain delay may help. Don’t think he’s that far off to where he needs to be, and cashman wants to get him right as soon as possible.

  165. LockDown August 13th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    OT: time to get back to damages. Someone told me about it and I already watched season 1 & 2 this week. I’m on season 3. Very different from other shows. Compelling

  166. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:22 pm

    they really don’t need montero till sept 1.

  167. Purenyyankee August 13th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    Please RAIN tomorrow…..

  168. 4 train August 13th, 2011 at 9:25 pm

    it’s been a rough few weeks for betsy chic as the hughes kid is pitching good as she opens her mouth to switch feet

  169. LGY August 13th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    West Coast Yankee Fan says: August 13, 2011 at 8:07 pm Niblick August 13th, 2011 at 7:41 pm Betsy, nothing will be good enough for you when it comes to Phil, so why don’t you go find another hobby, like kicking puppies, so we don’t have to read the same old stuff from you. You’re boring.

    **********

    Truth.

    ———-

    WCYF

    Encouraging Betsy to kick puppies?

    Expect an educational video in your email buddy :mad:

  170. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:26 pm

    betty loves the hughes kid, hates to see him fail, although she is a hater

  171. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:29 pm

    Please RAIN tomorrow…..
    =================
    The team of CashJoe have willed it to rain.
    It’s part of their master plan.

  172. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 9:30 pm

    Assuming the team knew Garcia probably couldn’t go tomorrow, I wonder if Cashman timed his rant down to the last minute, knowing that Hughes was going to get another start (and so therefore, if he was pulled from the rotation, people couldn’t point to Cashman’s rant as an obvious warning sign)

  173. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 9:31 pm

    Blake, I saw Pedroia on the cover of SI and had to ask myself why he’s on the cover and not Granderson?

  174. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:32 pm

    now betsy is on another level…have to digest that awhile

  175. m August 13th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    I took cash’s rant at face value. Cash was simply backing up his player imo.

  176. 4 NYY August 13th, 2011 at 9:35 pm

    # Vineyard Yankee August 13th, 2011 at 8:58 pm

    JobaTipsHisCap August 13th, 2011 at 8:50 pm

    AJ is given another chance

    ===========

    He has had far too many already.

    =====================================================

    And 80 Million to go with it. Wonder if that factors in ? Hmmmm……………

  177. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:37 pm

    This season is almost over, AJ is running out of chances, it’s all about the postseason anyway.

  178. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I’d like to think that our GM was quite that Machiavellian. Then, we’d really be the Evil Empire.

  179. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I love Freddy being the fall guy, taking one for the team.

  180. blake August 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    “I saw Pedroia on the cover of SI and had to ask myself why he’s on the cover and not Granderson?”

    that’s easy….Pedroia gets to the park 12 hours early and gets his uniform dirty….and he plays for the Red Sox.

    I think Cashman needs to smoke the reality pipe……I smoked some of the objectivity pipe and still think Hughes needs to stay in the rotation.

  181. UnKnown August 13th, 2011 at 9:38 pm

    I really doubt that a rainout tomorrow would skip AJ. He will just go on Monday in KC as planned if Freddy would’ve pitched tomorrow.

    If they wanted to skip AJ a turn they could’ve done that without a rainout tomorrow. Nova is ready to go on Monday after 4 days rest.

  182. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    AJ is Fredo.
    Jete-Michael Corleone
    Arod-Sonny
    Posada-Bunzini

  183. blake August 13th, 2011 at 9:40 pm

    I think Freddy really does have a cut and the way they described it was that it really only affected his split….which is a really important pitch for him. Who knows if he could really pitch or not but with the current situation they have there is no use in chancing it…..won’t hurt for him to have the extra rest anyway.

  184. JM August 13th, 2011 at 9:42 pm

    m August 13th, 2011 at 9:00 pm
    Are they expecting bad weather tomorrow? When would they make up that game?

    Off-topic, but I just finished watching Season 4 of The Wire. I have to say that it is the single most compelling season of television drama I have ever seen. Great story lines, and the focus on the kids made it so rich.

    ___________

    m,

    I agree. Think The Wire as a whole, is the best series that’s ever been on TV. But that Season 4 in particular….Sometimes I’d watch an episode and just shake my head about how perfect it was.

  185. Betsy August 13th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    Blake, I know – I don’t know why I care since I think SI stinks.

    Cashman is smoking some nasty stuff – and has been since ST. He needs to smoke the “stop treating fans like idiots” pipe because who didn’t see right through him? While he’s at it, he can lay down the AJ rattle – he comes across like a baby.

  186. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:43 pm

    They don’t want to disrupt a 5 man staff with extra rest and they will have AJ warming until they call it so he will “have” to miss a turn.

    And he will like it.

  187. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:44 pm

    Who cares what the fans think?
    Cash isn’t running for office. Jeez.

  188. LGY August 13th, 2011 at 9:46 pm

    All I know is that I would like to get a hold of whatever Cash is smoking during AJ’s starts.

    It has gotta be some good stuff.

  189. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:47 pm

    Cash does that medicinal sh*t

  190. Captain Clutch August 13th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    I saw Pedroia on the cover of SI
    ———

    The smurf movie did just come out. So it makes sense…..

  191. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:52 pm

    Look at this sked over the next 15 games:
    KC-3, Minn-4, Oak-3,Balt.-5.

    10-5 or 11-4?

  192. tomingeorgia August 13th, 2011 at 9:53 pm

    mick,
    I like it, but let’s just get this one tomorrow.

  193. blake August 13th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Desmond Jennings: 2011

    AAA: .275/.374/.454/.830
    MLB: .329/.420/.592/1.030

    A kid the Rays have held down all season when he probably could have been in the big leagues from day 1……they always move slow with their prospects though as they want them to be ready and they want 6 good years and prime years before they lose them to free agency. They’ll have Jennings for ages 24-29 and then he’ll walk

  194. mick August 13th, 2011 at 9:55 pm

    Those 15 take us to Boston with Alex and Montero on the horizon.
    Nite all…

  195. 4 train August 13th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    who is this new betsy chic who is now here.

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