A-Rod update
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Aug 14, 2011 
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Alex Rodriguez participated in a camp day in Tampa, simulated game situations for low-level Yankees minor leaguers. According to the Yankees, he had four hits in 13 at-bats, including two doubles. He fanned three times. He ran the bases on most of the at-bats. He also played the equivalent of three innings at third.
Joe Girardi still expects to get him back during the four-game series in Minnesota that starts Thursday night.
Repost:
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Arod Ks 3x?!
Not to rush him, but if A-Rod is healthy how much practice does he need?
Betsy,
Why do you think that Phil has to prove himself a quality starter? Has he not done so thus far?
I don’t know why people make so much of what Hughes looked like in April. (Yes, I know that you’re thinking it goes back to last year). But let’s talk about this year. Like right now. Is he still not pitching well enough for you? Or is it because Nova is pitching so well and you feel he’s the high water mark?
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Was it in the late ’60s? I was otherwise busy for a few years there.
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What were you busy doing?
WCYF,
I was abroad, in the nation’s service.
I see.
Has ‘Negative Nellie’ gone underground in search of new pitching prospects for the Yankees ?
Probably making a new voodoo doll. The last one didn’t work.
Phil has already proved himself just fine.
He was an all star caliber major leaguer for the past two full seasons.
That may not be enough for some people, but its plenty for me.
Now that he’s healthy, I expect him to continue to perform and progress. The way he so willingly uncorked his secondary pitches against a good team yesterday was extremely encouraging.
That said, when he has his really good fastball (and he might have that 94-95 bb like he had against Chicago one out of every three starts or so) I expect and hope he throws the pitch up to 75 percent of the time. Its a special pitch. He shouldn’t forget how good it is just to placate people who want to see him “develop secondary pitches” because he has the ability to be a consistent star largely based on that pitch alone.
they have 6 Sux games left.
pretty much they still control their division fate. If they continue to fail, then Sux is well deserved to win division, and don’t expect yanks can go deep in postseason.
I can see why people insist that Phil develop those secondary pitches. First of all he doesn’t live off a 97 mph fastball. But more importantly, it will take him to another level. As well as save his rear on days when he doesn’t have the good fastball going.
Anyway, it’s good to see that Phil doesn’t seem to have long-term damage. I think that’s what worried me the most. Not that he forgot how to pitch or that he’ll be supplanted in the rotation. Just want him to be healthy. Because the times when he’s been bad, it’s due to his health.
Hughes has lot to prove, long way to go.
Let him start against top teams: sux, rangers and LAA, see what he got.
Arodys Vizcaino makes his major league debut for the Braves with a 4-3 lead vs. the Cubs, men on 1st and 3rd with one out.
He strikes out three to record the next two outs, but with a couple wild pitches. The Cubs tie the game on the first of those.
It’s hard to hug while weeping.
Hughes has proven he is healthy. He has proven that he can give quality outings.
Now that he’s healthy again, he’ll be a coveted arm. Lucky thing Cashman covets him, too.
He keeps pitching like he has, you guys will come back around to him.
Hughes newsflash.
A while back Pedro Gomez of ESPN reported that Phil Hughes had a cyst removed from his shoulder.
Chad E-mailed Cashman about it and he flatly denied it ever happened.
After Cashman’s denial I sent Gomez a letter asking him for more info. about the story and to reaffirm it in the light of Cashman’s denial.
Well. He just got back to me so I thought I would share his response.
I’ll quote it below :
“Concerned Yankee Fan,
I just received the email you had forwarded to ESPN on my behalf about a report I did several weeks ago on Phil Hughes having a cyst removed from his right shoulder. You ask where I received this information. I received it straight from Phil and pitching coach Larry Rothschild, who said as much during a quick interview we did with him on the field before that night’s game. I absolutely stand by my report.”
Sincerely,
pedro
Make what you will of it.
I apologize for the length of the post but I thought it was important.
I understand Yankee fan impatience, we are a spoiled bunch with good reason. But sometimes I wonder if fans truly appreciate the talent Phil Hughes brings to the table. I’m hard pressed to think of a pitcher that didn’t have some injury problems, and for a 25 year old making $2.7 million who has been moved around like he has due to the team’s needs and management whims; minors, starter, pen, starter, etc., he’s a gold mine.
Home grown, cost controlled, an 18-8 All-Star in the AL East with a fastball, curve, change and cutter who throws 92-95 with life when healthy. Come on now. Wake up.
MTU:
Glad you got a reply I as yet have not. Glad you posted that.
VY-
I e-mailed him as well as sent him a letter.
I hope he responds to you as well.
Of course Cashman denied the report; he would be demolished if he revealed that the team is letting Freddy Garcia perform medical procedures with a simple kitchen knife.
‘Nellie’s tutorial on how to make voodoo dolls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PKDs8-8cGc
MTU, Lohud sleuth!
Thanks for going the extra mile.
Y’know, if it’s true, it should make the cynics less vitriolic about what Hughes’ true “upside” is. Amazing how some have decided that at 25 he’s actually at heart a mid to back rotation guy.
But i wonder why Hughes & Rothschild would be so up front about something the Yanks were so mum on…? Unless your intrepid reporter ambushed them with the info & they just on the spot, ‘fessed up. I wonder about the reporter’s ethics, too, giving up his sources like that when he knows how fast news travels on the internet…
I don’t know what to make of it, but it’s interesting…
MTU August 14th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Probably will get a carbon copy. At least he replied. Makes you wonder who is BS’ing who.
Wow MTU that is really interesting, great work. It’s hard not to believe Pedro Gomez when he speaks of being told by Phil and Rothschild in person. That is first-hand with corroboration and he knows he would lose his job over that if he made that up out of whole cloth.
As to why Cashman denied it if true, well, that is hard to fathom. It’s not as if a review of Hughes medical history wouldn’t have turned it up if he got traded.
Can we expect any help from Seattle pitcher Charlie Furbush?
‘Furbush’ sounds like he should be selling cleaning supplies.
Vineyard Yankee August 14th, 2011 at 4:06 pm
‘Nellie’s tutorial on how to make voodoo dolls.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PKDs8-8cGc
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VY! L M A O !!!!!!
mtu
when was the cyst removed?
do you think it had an effect on his arm?
Nick,
You missed Arodys’ real debut where he struck out 1 and walked/hit by pitch a few to load the bases against the Marlins
Let me try this question again, because I really don’t know the answer.
General question: When did the trend towards pitching starters on five days rest begin? Most of the all-time great pitchers were in 4-man rotations, pitching every fourth game. Was it in the late ’60s? I was otherwise busy for a few years there. But the great rotations of the ’50s and sixties (Indians, Orioles, etc) pitched every fourth day, if my memory serves. Who began the trend, and why? I seem to remember that 11-man pitching staffs were unusual, and long relief went to the best ex-starter in the pen.
You’re all welcome.
One thing for sure.
Someone is not telling the truth.
legally, if it was done in the off season, i wonder if cash is allowed to volunteer any information esp without phil’s permission.
pitching on 4 days rest , every 5th day is what you must mean tom…
Good one, Jerkface. Next you’ll tell me that Arodys removed a cyst from Billy the Marlin.
“Home grown, cost controlled, an 18-8 All-Star in the AL East with a fastball, curve, change and cutter who throws 92-95 with life when healthy. Come on now. Wake up.”
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Yup.
Tom, the Mets in the early 70s started that I belive, mostly because of issues with Ryank, and Gary Gentry, but, Koosman also came down wth some injuries. Gil Hodges was big on this until his death around’72.
***Ryan***
Nick in SF August 14th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Can we expect any help from Seattle pitcher Charlie Furbush?
‘Furbush’ sounds like he should be selling cleaning supplies.
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Of course he will help.
I had a classmate of his as a waiter thursday and told him to pass along our desire for him to have a W today.
I’m sure he’ll comply.
Mick-
I don’t know that.
I do remember Gomez saying that he thought it might have something to do with Hughes velo problem.
The cyst was removed from the area of Hughes Labrum.
Have no idea how large it was, or how extensive the surgery to remove it was.
This is Gomez’s e-mail :
pedro.j.gomez@espn.com
GB7
I think Garcia cut his finger having lobster.
I had to be carefull last night with them based on past injuries from the shells.
mick,
No, I meant they pitched every fourth day, three days rest. All season long. The starting four had more starts in 154 games than pitchers do now in 162.
Fun thought for the day. AJ Burnett makes twice as much money as Curtis Granderson.
MTU
I wonder why he was the only one to report it?
how many years until hughes is a free agent?
Eggs shells are even more dangerous, Maine
Maine-
I’m glad Freddy showed the press his finger.
randy l. August 14th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
how many years until hughes is a free agent?
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Hughes is a free agent in 2014, his arbitration years 2 and 3 are in 2012 and 2013.
The Freddy finger scandal isn’t quite as big as Watergate and frankly who gives a damn?
Whatever they have to spin to work it out in the best interest of the team is fine with most fans.
They were getting anywhere from 38-41 starts a year. That’s why they piled up those 325+ inninga year.
MaineYankee August 14th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
I wonder why he was the only one to report it?
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Because he was the one who did the reporting; he had the conversation with Hughes and Rothschild.
GreenBeret7 August 14th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Eggs shells are even more dangerous, Maine
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But lobster tastes better.
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
An educated guess:If and when the Yankees decide between A.J. Burnett and Phil Hughes for their rotation, Burnett will start,Hughes to ‘pen.
Maine-
It was an on field interview. Not the usual method for gathering info.
If he is not being truthful he is really sticking his neck out now.
Having asserted it a second time. This time in writing.
“I had to be carefull last night with them based on past injuries from the shells.”
farmers eat lobsters?
Uggla’s just about fininshed, unless the Braves have some big innings. 0-3 with a sac fly
When did the trend towards pitching starters on five days rest begin?
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never.
GB7,
In 1954, Early Winn had 40 starts, Bob lemon also had 40, along with Don Mossi. Mike Garcia had 45!
Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
An educated guess:If and when the Yankees decide between A.J. Burnett and Phil Hughes for their rotation, Burnett will start,Hughes to ‘pen.
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Wow! We get better conjecture here at LoHud.
The only rotation that matters is the postseason, did he mean that?
I have serious doubts that a member of the coaching staff told a “highly respected member” of ESPN anything. Hughes might, but, Gomez is just another dog.
MTU
I fell like if that was factual it would have gotten alot more press.
Color me skeptical.
mtu
do you get the credit for breaking this story?
is gomez using you for his own gain?
randy
Do fisherman eat beef?
Interesting stuff, MTU.
I wish he would have been clearer on who actually told him. Was it Phil or Rothschild?
mtu
can you show the email here?
Maine-
If you’re interested feel free to e-mail him yourself.
I posted his e-mail address above.
a cyst on the shoulder doesn’t have to be serious.
Mick-
I posted it verbatim in my 3:59 post.
Ask yourself, why would a reporter with a good job risk everything to make up something like Hughes having a cyst. And to do so in writing, and name his sources, Hughes and Rothschild is pretty powerful to me.
What would he gain? He wouldn’t get a raise for that or be accorded any favor. It’s not a big story at all.
It’s funny that some assume the media is lying instead of the corporate mouthpiece.
“randy
Do fisherman eat beef?”
hardly ever.
did you have to take the tractor to bar harbor to get the lobsters ?
By the way, Gomez left a cell # :
602 206-5072
Tom, those staffs of thelate 50s and early 60s were the first ones that I remember cranking out 40+ starts a year. Hard to believe that it wasn’t until 1961 that Whitey Ford was ever in a normal rotation. Stengel would juggle the rotation to where he usually faced the aces of the other staffs. He may as well have been on a 5 man rotaton. It’s amazing that he won as many gams as he did making 30-31 starts a year. The ones I remember most were the Dodger and Giants staffs along with Burdette and Spahn. Even Sudden Sam would pull in 39-40 starts a year.i
these guys are gossip mongers always looking to break a “story”
do they get paid by the degree of controversy they stir up?
this need to be 1st is what the public clamors for I guess.
Does anyone remember what Gomez said on tv? More specifically when the cyst was removed? Wonder if it was done by the vascular specialist who essentially cleared Hughes?
Yeah…right. All reporters are honest and would never fabricate a story. ESPN is a network without morals.
what kind of cyst was it?
could be fatty tissue, could be cancer?
big difference…
MTU,
Very interesting….if Gomez is telling the truth then it begs the question ….why wouldn’t Cashman be forthcoming about it?
randy l. August 14th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
“randy
Do fisherman eat beef?”
hardly ever.
did you have to take the tractor to bar harbor to get the lobsters ?
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What about when they harvest the oyster and clam beds?
I just called that number and got a closed office building in Caracas.
Blake-
I could speculate but I really have no idea.
If you have more questions I would recommend e-mailing or calling Mr. Gomez.
I was so shocked by the report I felt compelled to follow up is all.
mtu, this thing will go viral and you can say you broke the story…
AH, HA!!! So MTU is really Luis or Luis is MTU?
GB-
Inspector Clouseau.
wait till betcy hears about this, mtu gets the blame…
Man. I’m in deep kimchee.
So much for being a good samaritan.
GreenBeret7 August 14th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
Yeah…right. All reporters are honest and would never fabricate a story. ESPN is a network without morals.
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You are not very bright are you?
Where is your proof that he fabricated anything. He named two sources, the pitcher in question and his pitching coach. He has to face them to do his job. Why would he do that? What did he gain?
And where is your proof that ESPN is immoral. One can make the case they are biased in their editorial opinion, but immoral?
That’s right Britt
1-0 Mariners in the 3rd
“Man. I’m in deep kimchee.”
time to go on a hike.
Randy-
I just got back.
If he’s been deep into the kimche. nobody or nothiny is going to bother him on the trail.
STRETCH…STRETCH.
DAD GUMMIT.
Roger that, GB.
GB-
I always carry extra matches. Last line of defense.
You aren’t afraid of blowing yourself up?
3-0 Seattle, bases loaded, 1 out.
GB-
Like I said, last line of defense.
Imagine the look on that bear’s face.
Priceless.
with that smell, I’d be more afraid of being ravaged by Sasquatch
Throw a little nuoc mam on as after shave.
West Coast Yankee Fan August 14th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Maybe the ‘Pink Beret’ should check with Patricia, she is an authority on everything true and righteous here.
GB-
Yeah. You got a point. Could act like a pheromone for them.
Time to rethink the strategy.
Guess that wasn’t part of your survival training in SF.
Vineyard Yankee August 14th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
West Coast Yankee Fan August 14th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
Maybe the ‘Pink Beret’ should check with Patricia, she is an authority on everything true and righteous here.
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Heard there was a huge pileup on I-95. Won’t be here for months.
Watching Arod running out double the other night makes me think he is a long way from being at full strength. I figured he would DH a lot especially against LHP for the first 2-3 weeks. Hopefully he progresses quickly because he didn’t look comfortable running.
Damn that’s shame. Any video you know of ?
Arod will dh a lot,chavez at 3b against righties,nunez at 3b against lefties.
typo: s/b………Damn that’s a shame.
Vineyard Yankee August 14th, 2011 at 5:11 pm
Damn that’s shame. Any video you know of ?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qys1ik4hOxA
MTU August 14th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
GB-
Yeah. You got a point. Could act like a pheromone for them.
Time to rethink the strategy.
Guess that wasn’t part of your survival training in SF.
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Nah….we wre the only hairy beasts in those woods
West Coast Yankee Fan August 14th, 2011 at 5:14 pm
Oh, I see. Like ‘Iron Mike’ pedaling at 40 mph in the dead of night to each and ever siren.
Something like that. The driver who caused the pileup said something about rally cats crawling all over his steering wheel. The had him in a strait jacket but she stuck a pen in his mouth and signed him up.
A stress-free AJ day is what the doctor ordered today.. Guess i’ll have 24 hrs to get the Paxil out again.. Just kidding BTW..lol
4-1 Mariners…
You are bad, bad.
5-1 Mariners.
5-1 Mariners…Wakefield throwing BP….if it’s low let it go, if it’s high let it fly…LOL
West coast mutual admiration society.
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 5:41 pm
West coast mutual admiration society.
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Don’t feel bad, not everyone can live in the paradise that is California. How the heat, humidity and bugs this summer?
WCYF,
Lets talk again when the fires are out, and the Big One has relocated you who knows where.
Oh please. Those things are minor inconveniences. You know, like the Klan where you live.
Oh, please, indeed.
If Cashman has given up on Hughes, why not put him on waivers and watch the waiver wire light up?
The Klan on the plantation, OMG !
Young left-hander Mr. Furbush looks very good today.
Yes, still very active in Georgia unfortunately. And a little known fact, Klan members are predominantly Red Sux fans.
Either of you guys been to Watts lately, or one of your numerous barrios?
Leave it to the Jackass to drag racim into a sportsboard…like Kalifornia doesn’t have chapters in northern and southern Kalifornia.
Yes, I have been to Watts and South Central often. It’s terrible what institutional racism has wrought upon minorities in this country.
GB,
They also have La Raza, who will make them pay.
I came here to check on basebal,l but I see Sybil hasn’t taken her meds tonight.
What’s next… more bullying of women? Moron.
Tom– Address him in the singular tense because it’s one idiot.
Actually GB& – California does have two very small Klan groups. Kalifornia Knights of the Ku Klux Klan and the White Legion Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.
La Raza – a terrific advocasy group.
sp – advocacy
GB7
Some don’t realize that they hurt there cause more by opening their mouth.
It still doesn’t belong on here you asshole
I much prefer ‘Hunters Point’ and the ‘Sunnyside Projects’ only late at night though.
Oh calm yourself you vulgar dinosaur. Neither does “being ravaged by Sasquatch.”
Maine, that idiot pulls out that race card everytime he gets into a discussion that he can’t win…which is often.
Such language Pinkie, please.
WCYF,
La Raza claims California as their sovereign territory. You live in a condo on the beach. I’ve seen the photos. Your maid is probably hispanic. Yes, you’re an expert on “advocasy groups”. Whatever happens where you are, I hope you do well as a part of a community that needs to be organized.
Just having a nice interesting chat. Just not really interested that Yeicok Calderon is batting .229.
Vulgar Dinosaur’………….well if the shoe fits. Good one. LOL !
Baseball anyone?
Well Tom terrific, the downtrodden and oppressed do need someone to stand up for them you know. It’s the American way!
Tar,
You’re right, same usage and attitude. Same issues, same slant, nothing useful.
Hey Tom. Care to make a wager for charity that we are two people?
JobaTipsHisCap August 14th, 2011 at 3:50 pm
“Hughes has lot to prove, long way to go.
Let him start against top teams: sux, rangers and LAA, see what he got.”
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Let’s all get together and send Girardi a letter from LoHud Yankee Blog
requesting Hughes start against the sux, rangers and angels. We’ll explain that JobaTipsHisCap doesn’t feel like Hughes has proven himself and has a long way to go.
Tom. I’m in for $1,000 for the Jorge Posada charity. How about you big mouth?
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
Once again cotton picking Tom talking about things he knows nothing about. No surprise.
Some folks here have trouble understanding the meaning of irreverent discourse. It’s very sad for them.
Half game out
Baseball?
SUX LOSE!
Why not just give the $1000 to Jorge’s charity?
WCYF,
Enjoy your Mexican citizenship. Some how, though, I think you’ll move to Oregon or Washington. Somehow, your vote wont count under Mexican law, or at least won’t be counted.
By the way, the Red Sox lose!
Red Sox LOSE!
Run it Out August 14th, 2011 at 6:22 pm
Well ‘Joba Tips His Cap’ wouldn’t be the only one here that’s for sure. LOL !
Furbish and League. Nice.
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 6:25 pm
WCYF, Enjoy your Mexican citizenship. Some how, though, I think you’ll move to Oregon or Washington. Somehow, your vote wont count under Mexican law, or at least won’t be counted.
By the way, the Red Sox lose!
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Mexican citizenship? Mexican law? Cuckoo! Cuckoo! Cuckoo!
WCYF:
‘Birds of a feather flock together,’ see above. Business at the B&B must be booming !
How insecure do you have to be to constantly attempt to flaunt where you live on an anonymous blog? Jeez.
…waiting on Chad’s post that Montero has been called up…
everyone on this blog knows who the cancers are who make the blog unreadable.
do what i do and let them know what you think of them by never responding to them.
…waiting on Chad’s post that Montero has been called up…”
has he been called up?
# LGY August 14th, 2011 at 6:29 pm
How insecure do you have to be to constantly attempt to flaunt where you live on an anonymous blog? Jeez.
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Or constantly claim how much smarter he is than everyone else – baseball or otherwise.
I would think Shields will go against the Sux tomorrow. I’ll take that.
randy, I’m just hoping…
Back in first place baby…..call up Montero to celebrate!
randy l,
That’s the new policy, for sure. I’m not hard to find on the internet. Interesting what their “My Space” pages look like, though.
MTU seems to have pull….maybe he can email Cashman and get him to call up Hey-Zeuz
“I’m just hoping…”
damn, that would have made my day if montero would have been called up.
Blake-
The only pull I have is when I open my beer can.
Sorry.
Blake-
And by the way, sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
We are still 1/2 game out.
At least till tomorrow that is.
Matsui is a hitter’s hitter. Lot’s of Ffrank Robinson-like guts in him. Oliver gets 2 strikes hi, throws one close, drops him in the dirt with a pitch at his head. Matsui fouls the next pitch off and then knocks the next pitch into left field for a game tying single. You’d think by this time, pitchers would know they can’y intimidate him.
“The only pull I have is when I open my beer can.”
lol
MTU
I wasn’t questioning what you reported about Hugh’s.
I was questioning the report.
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 6:34 pm
Once again talking out of both sides of your mouth about something you know nothing about. I don’t participate in Facebook or MySpace. Wrong again.
MTU,
I just count the LC and assume we’ll win the extra game
MY-
Understood.
I was just the messenger.
Glad you didn’t shoot me.
Blake-
Use that trick the last day of the season please. especially if it’s tight.
tomingeorgia,
my politics are probably a bit different from yours and gb7′s but respect for people goes beyond that kind of stuff.
there are people i don’t associate with in real life and i see no reason to interact with them on a baseball blog.
randy
You’re to hard to ignore.
bad juju vibes here again today, is it always this way now, is that why so many people cut out from here. very few dudes from a few years ago and hardly any of the women folk. this was the best place for baseball rap for a yankee fan. learned lots of stuff here back then
randy,
I’m not racist, bigoted or anything else, and I agree with you. I came on this blog to be informed and entertained with baseball talk. Whether we agree on politics or not, this IS a baseball blog. Thanks for the advice.
MTU August 14th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
It’s unfortunate that we tried to clarify the Pedro Gomez story some time ago, then you post the reply and have to answer several similar questions 20 times. You posted his info. they should followup on their own if they don’t like the followup you posted.
You are very gracious for answering them all in kind.
Montero will be up Sept 1 at the earliest….if he even gets called up..
MY-
“You’re to hard to ignore.”
That’s what she said.
P.S. I know I’m bad. Sorry.
as long as there is ongoing yankee talk here that’s all we can hope for
once that dies this place is dead
no experts needed or holier than thou attitudes need apply
VY-
As they say out here in the bario. No problemo. Mucho gusto.
MaineYankee August 14th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
randy
You’re to hard to ignore.
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not really. I treat you and Randy the same. I don’t pay attention to either one of “you Red Sox fans”.
MTU August 14th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Right back at ya, from the vineyards.
It was being reported on Aug. 2 that Montero would be promoted “in a couple of weeks…”
Well, it’s “a couple of weeks” later, & long overdue…
why wouldn’t jesus get the 9/1 callup?
GreenBeret7 August 14th, 2011 at 6:56 pm
MaineYankee August 14th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
randy
You’re to hard to ignore.
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not really. I treat you and Randy the same. I don’t pay attention to either one of “you Red Sox fans”.
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I thought that was because we are smarter than you.
its evident they haven’t called him up bc they feel cervelli is the buc and until lately posada was the righty dh with jones and chavez hanging around. i guess it’s not all about montero as some would like to think.
breaking him in this late in the season seems like too much to expect.
better to bring him up 9/1 and let him ease in slow.
hey blake-
you think mtu has some pull, i actually got asked to link up with someone fairly important in the yankee organization on linkedin his past week.
what was strange was i had questioned his credentials.
i’m assuming somehow he did it by accident.
linking up with me could probably get someone fired who works for brian cashman
mick. holier than thou, what are you talking about dude. you new here ?
Randy
Rumor is Cashman is trying to trade Montero for Salty.
He read how you praised him here the other day.
Does anyone remember what Gomez said on tv? More specifically when the cyst was removed? Wonder if it was done by the vascular specialist who essentially cleared Hughes?
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It was a “throw down” from the ESPN booth to Gomez in the stands by the dugout. Gomez said that Hughes had cyst removed from his shoulder in April and that the Yankees believed that was the reason for his poor performance.
Cashman’s denial means it didn’t happen. It’s not something Cashman can lie about or enlist other people to lie about. If Hughes were traded his medical records would have to be provided to his new team.
In light of the explanation now coming from Gomez, the only issue is whether Gomez honestly misinterpreted something Hughes and Rothschild said or just made it up.
Why would Gomez make it up? And if he did, what would he identify both Hughes and Rothschild as his sources? Makes no sense.
…why
9/1 is too late for him to gain any level of comfort.
If Girardi thinks Cervelli is a better option than Jesus Montero, well then what can you say, really, because something so crazy defies refutation. Meanwhile, I’ll check in here & there to see if there’s an announcement on Montero’s callup. SWB was rained out tonight. For all we know, he’s on his way
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nah forget it, bring jesus up tomorrow…
lounge lizard,
Thanks for that. He said April? So, this is after his poor pitching, they sent him for tests, then put him on the DL. And somewhere along the line he had a cyst removed in the month of April?
I’m with you, I’m more inclined to believe that there was a misunderstanding here. I know in April, there was talk that surgery might be required to unbundle a cluster of packed vessels. But then there was relief that wasn’t necessary.
All I know is that they’re calling it tendinitis. And they haven’t changed that story. I don’t believe Gomez is making up stuff, but I wonder if followed up with Hughes and/or Rothschild re: the discrepancy.
Randy,
you missed your chance to be a double agent
you can’t expect montero to be familiar with the staff at this late date
he would be here strictly for his bat
evidently they don’t feel the urgency
Blake-
The only real double agent is Cano.
Or is that double machine ?
MTU,
machine….he’s heating up
randy
linking up with me could probably get someone fired
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fixed
Obviously, they don’t. He ain’t here. We’ll see how it shakes out tomorrow.
Blake-
I like watching the Cano that you can’t get out.
When he’s in beast mode.
Hope he saves it for when it really counts.
Cashman has already said that Girardi wouldn’t catch him as he isn’t familiar with the staff. They’re in a pennant race – thats far more important than Montero. Even if he doesn’t play until next spring at his age so what.
The latest we see the Messiah of Mash will be September.
Tommie–
That was an interesting question earlier about when the 4 man rotation became the 5 man rotation….made me do a little research.
I thought the man cause was the lowering of the pitcher’s mound, which put more strain on pitchers’ arms…but I found little to no mention of that. What I did find was the following:
http://www.baseballprospectus......cleid=1596
Seems the Dodgers started it, and it spread quickly. Perhaps as GB7 mentioned, the Mets were also early adapters. Seemed to be more about economics and protecting investments than anything else.
WCYF
Tired of all the pining for Jesus.
He’ll get here when he gets here.
The team is more important and they are managing fine without him.
It’s not like he’s tearing things up down there.
“Whether we agree on politics or not, this IS a baseball blog”
as long as we agree on the same religion which is baseball, all’s good
mick August 14th, 2011 at 7:27 pm
WCYF
Tired of all the pining for Jesus.
He’ll get here when he gets here.
The team is more important and they are managing fine without him.
It’s not like he’s tearing things up down there.
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Well said. He’s not going to catch and with the long season, injuries and Posada, it looks like DH time will be at a premium. I think they would rather he play every day now as he has things he still needs to work on.
Sometimes I wonder if we are baseball fans or Yankee fans.
Without the Yankees I wouldn’t have the same interest.
http://riveraveblues.com/
Heres what we get when arod comes back.
I did a (not very thorough) search for any kind of confirmation that Hughes had a cyst removed. The only nugget I found was this ” # have a cigar July 7th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Pedro Gomez: “Did I say, ‘Cyst removed’? Oops, I meant, ‘Cavity filled’. Sorry about the confusion.”
When I clicked on the link it redirected me to LoHud.
Anyway, I love a good mystery. Anyone know how long a cyst removed from the labrum would take to recover from?
click play.
We’ll see how it shakes out tomorrow.
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why tomorrow?
Pedro Gomez: “Did I say, ‘Cyst removed’? Oops, I meant, ‘Cavity filled’. Sorry about the confusion.”
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whatever happened to responsible journalism
i guess it doesn’t sell
MTU August 14th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
The latest we see the Messiah of Mash will be September.
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Like I mentioned earlier. Jesus will come down and unleash his kitans (Heaven Shakers)
Bojo,
Maybe it was the mound, or it was “minor league development”. Either way, innings are down, starts are down. How’d those old guys do it? Anyway, thanks for responding.
tom
ever look at the amount of complete games those oldtimers had?
not to mention shutouts.
before the advent of the pitch count
Tom, a lot of it had to do with the fact that players and pitchers were starting to make big money (a lot of $100,000-$150,000 a year comtracts) and the GMs wanted to protect their investments.
Catch you all later.
Time for some Sunday night baseball.
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
Bojo,
Maybe it was the mound, or it was “minor league development”. Either way, innings are down, starts are down. How’d those old guys do it? Anyway, thanks for responding.
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A lot of factors IMO. Like GB said, money was a factor.
There was a great article about a year ago on the effect of lowering the mound
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=4359938
Good read.
Warren Spahn started 665 games and completed 382, that’s almost 60% of games started, he finished and some of them were extra innings.
Not to mention he saved a few games.
Long day without Yankee baseball.
Later.
TG–
You’ll note in that article (IIRC) that there has also been a shift in pitching approach. Without the advantage of the higher downward plane, pitchers have had to throw harder throughout the game, resulting in more effort and injuries. Thus the advent of the pitch count and 5 man rotation.
what happens to the montero kid if he goes 1-20 and strikes out 4 or 5 times with guys on the bases. how fast will the press and the fans start to turn on the kid. just seeing how things happen here with yankee players
Montero can catch Nova. He has caught Nova for 2 years.
Buster_ESPN With Rich Dauer being taken to hospital for observation after being hit in the nose, Glenallen Hill will coach 3B for COL, Marv Foley 1B.
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Didn’t realize Glenallen Hill was a coach for the Rockies.
That dude hit the longest HR I’ve ever seen at Wrigley Field.
Several guys have hit the building across the street on Waveland but Hill hit the ball ON TOP OF THE ROOF across the street.
That was some kind of blast.
m August 14th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
I did a (not very thorough) search for any kind of confirmation that Hughes had a cyst removed. The only nugget I found was this ” # have a cigar July 7th, 2011 at 3:28 pm
Pedro Gomez: “Did I say, ‘Cyst removed’? Oops, I meant, ‘Cavity filled’. Sorry about the confusion.”
When I clicked on the link it redirected me to LoHud.
Anyway, I love a good mystery. Anyone know how long a cyst removed from the labrum would take to recover from?
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Who knows? There isn’t much to work with here. If it happened, it was probably nothing–an outpatient procedure. The whole thing is so speculative. I would need a bit more than the uncorroborated claims of some ESPN reporter.
mick,
A lot of guys in the day used to go nine, and they were ashamed if they didn’t. Go farther back, some of them pitched both ends of a double header.
iuseppe Franco August 14th, 2011 at 7:58 pm
Buster_ESPN With Rich Dauer being taken to hospital for observation after being hit in the nose, Glenallen Hill will coach 3B for COL, Marv Foley 1B.
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Didn’t realize Glenallen Hill was a coach for the Rockies.
That dude hit the longest HR I’ve ever seen at Wrigley Field.
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He hit a blast with a broken bat for the Yanks a few years back. It was quite impressive.
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
mick,
A lot of guys in the day used to go nine, and they were ashamed if they didn’t. Go farther back, some of them pitched both ends of a double header.
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Yeah sure…but where are those guys today! Answer: They are ALL DEAD!
BoJo August 14th, 2011 at 8:10 pm
tomingeorgia August 14th, 2011 at 7:59 pm
mick,
A lot of guys in the day used to go nine, and they were ashamed if they didn’t. Go farther back, some of them pitched both ends of a double header.
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Yeah sure…but where are those guys today! Answer: They are ALL DEAD!
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The inescapable conclusion is that pitching complete games kills!