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Postgame notes: “No pie for that”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Aug 16, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A.J. Burnett knows when to celebrate. He knows when to move on quietly. Tonight he was moving on.

Burnett’s first win since June 29 was good enough. It was good enough to give the lineup a chance to rally. It was good enough to hand a lead to the Yankees lock-down relievers. It was good enough to put the Yankees back into a tie for first place. Burnett scattered singles, got a few key outs and walked just one batter.

“Maybe a cupcake,” Burnett said. “No pie for that. You’ve got to do a lot better than three runs in five and two-thirds to get a pie.”

Fair enough. Really, this outing wasn’t much different than the seven winless starts that came before it. Burnett had his one bad inning, and he was rarely overwhelming, but this time the Yankees scored enough runs. Burnett wasn’t happy to come out of the game in the middle of the sixth, but Joe Girardi wanted to matchup against a lefty, and Burnett seemed to realize he was in no position to argue.

“You can’t fight City Hall,” Burnett said. “Skip’s got a reason for everything. The way I look at it is we’ll build from this one, start pitching a little better and give Skip some confidence. The bottom line is, the better I pitch, the longer I’m going to stay out there.”

Derek Jeter said Burnett should be “real pleased” with this start, and Girardi said it was a chance for Burnett to feel like he’s contributing.

Burnett gave up 10 hits, but none went for extra-bases. He walked only one batter, but that was with the bases loaded. He got a win, but didn’t pitch through the sixth. It was enough to put the Yankees back in first place, but it probably wasn’t enough to quiet the frustration with the pitcher who’s supposed to be the Yankees go-to No. 2 starter.

“I think a lot of times when players are evaluated, I think the salary is one thing that’s always thrown into the mix,” Girardi said. “And that’s understandable. I understand that. With a high salary is always high expectations, but there’s been some games here that he could have won that we didn’t necessarily score runs. What’s fair in life and unfair, everyone’s going to have a different opinion, but I think he’s thrown the ball better than some of the outcomes he’s had.”

Here’s Burnett.

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• The Red Sox didn’t play tonight, so the two teams are once again tied at the top of the American League East.

• Hey look, it’s a scoreless inning by Mariano Rivera! After three straight rocky outings, the Yankees closer pitched a 1-2-3 ninth to seemingly put himself back on track. “That doesn’t matter,” Rivera said. “We won the game. That’s the most important thing. It feels good. You just want to be there, just go out there and pitch.”

• Another good night for the top of the Yankees lineup. Brett Gardner and Derek Jeter reached base six times and drove in five runs. Jeter had the biggest hit of the night with a two-run triple in the sixth. “We were leading the whole way, then they scored three, but we answered right back,” Jeter said. “I think that’s important. It probably relaxes A.J. a little bit. I don’t want to speak on his behalf, but I would assume so. You’re probably not feeling too good to give up the lead, but then we come right back.”

• Was Jeter thinking triple off the bat? “To be quite honest with you, I hit it and then I lost it in the scoreboard,” Jeter said. “The scoreboard is lit up pretty well. I saw Gardy going, so I just kept going. No one told me to stop.”

• This was Jeter’s 2,391st game, passing Lou Whitaker for the 17th-most games among players who spent their entire career with one team.

• Gardner is hitting .500 (7-for-14) against the Royals this season.

• Mike Moustakas was hitting 4-for-50 against left-handers this season. That’s why Girardi went to Boone Logan instead of letting Burnett finish the sixth. “The struggles that he’s had against left-handers, that’s the time to use my lefty because I know that I have the seventh, eighth and ninth guys if I want to go to them,” Girardi said.

• Another nice game for Jorge Posada, who drew a walk and had the single that started that pivotal three-run sixth.

• The Royals like to run, but the Yankees threw out two runners trying to steal and got another out on a pickoff. “Russell can really throw the baseball,” Girardi said. “And you take your chances when he’s behind home plate.”

• Burnett got two big double plays, the first of which came on a changeup. The second came on a fastball inside to Eric Hosmer. That’s certainly one of the biggest pitches of the night. “Confidence in the fastball in,” Burnett said. “I got it inside him a little and Robbie was able to make that play that not a lot of second basemen make. I threw some good changeups to righties all game. Billy (Butler) had a good swing on a changeup, but what can you do? It was a good pitch and he took it over there; that’s baseball. I have to learn to live with those things and that’s why I was able to get out of that inning.”

• You may have noticed Jeter and Burnett talking on the mound after Burnett was pulled. It was a conversation about the way Burnett was holding his glove to hid the ball before pitches. “I asked him to keep an eye on my hand, because I feel at times the way I set, maybe a runner at second can see my grip,” Burnett said. “I made a conscious effort to turn my glove in a little bit. That’s what I had him keep an eye on, and he said he never saw a thing.”

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69 Responses to “Postgame notes: “No pie for that””

  1. jacksquat August 16th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Sorry, no cupcake. 10 hits, walked in a run. I’d say he was fortunate. I’ll give him one m&m per changeup.

  2. stuart a August 16th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    did not see after the 3rd inning. aj only raised his ERA tonight by.01 to 4.61 in the world of low expectations and rdiculous spin it was a good outing for the hillbilly.

    aj stinks, he walked melky after being up 0 and 2 in the count. aj stinks but the yanks management and coaching are going to try to delude us that this is a start and a postive result.

    aj gave up a ton of baserunners in his 5 and 1/3 inning masterpice…

  3. Tyler August 16th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    I’m a little bit more disappointed with the Yanks in the international FA market than the draft these past couple years. It doesn’t seem like they have made a huge splash internationally since Sanchez.

  4. Tyler August 16th, 2011 at 1:39 am

    I see Prior’s back throwing in the GCL… Any chance he’s in line for a September callup?

  5. BJK August 16th, 2011 at 1:42 am

    Mike Moustakas was hitting 4-for-50 against left-handers this season. That’s why Girardi went to Boone Logan instead of letting Burnett finish the sixth. “The struggles that he’s had against left-handers, that’s the time to use my lefty because I know that I have the seventh, eighth and ninth guys if I want to go to them,” Girardi said.

    ——————————————————————————————————

    The other time to use your lefty is against Alex Gordon, the guy batting .298 with 14 homers. Why not let Logan finish the whole inning if he’s getting the job done? That’s why these innings roles bother me.

    In situations like this, it’d be nice to keep Soriano out of sync with Robertson and Rivera so he can fill in when on the days one of them needs a rest. Isn’t that the best way to use your highly paid back-up closer? This wasn’t exactly a playoff game atmosphere situation, although Girardi managed it like it was. Save your bullets, Joe… you don’t get another off day for a week.

    This has been your regularly scheduled Girardi nitpick.

  6. Pepitone August 16th, 2011 at 2:12 am

    If the Yankees think Burnett is going to pitch well in the playoffs, or against anybody not named Kansas City, they’re out of their minds.

    What a waste of money, and roster space!

    If they drop Nova (or Hughes for that matter) from the rotation for this guy, I’m crawling out of this computer screen to personally strangle Girardi and Cashman!

  7. xcv August 16th, 2011 at 2:19 am

    such is low expectation for jackass burnett. his fastball was very hit-able and was never on the corners of the plate, curveball was flat and his change didn’t fool anyone. 10 hits & a bases loaded walk for a WHIP of almost 2. good thing it was against KC since anyone else would’ve probably found a way to beat him.

  8. UnKnown August 16th, 2011 at 2:27 am

    Nice win tonight. Huge 6th inning. Joe got AJ out of the game just in time before he was getting ready to blow the game for a second time. And the offense had a nice 6th inning with a 3 spot.

    Usually when Jeter plays well the team wins. Simply as that.

  9. GreenBeret7 August 16th, 2011 at 2:51 am

    stuart a August 16th, 2011 at 1:34 am
    did not see after the 3rd inning. aj only raised his ERA tonight by.01 to 4.61 in the world of low expectations and rdiculous spin it was a good outing for the hillbilly.

    aj stinks, he walked melky after being up 0 and 2 in the count. aj stinks but the yanks management and coaching are going to try to delude us that this is a start and a postive result.

    aj gave up a ton of baserunners in his 5 and 1/3 inning masterpice…

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    How many hits did Sabathia give up in his last two starts…how many runs? Your “hillbilly’ BS has been stupid from the start. growu p, you snot nosed little punk.

  10. Vineyard Yankee August 16th, 2011 at 2:58 am

    Repost:

    Burnett had a 13 to 1 lead recently and couldn’t hang on to make it through 5 and get a W. Just because the Yankees won the game tonight doesn’t mean that all is rosy and cozy now with Burnett, the career .500 pitcher.

  11. Vineyard Yankee August 16th, 2011 at 3:15 am

    It doesn’t matter what CC did in his last two starts ‘Pinkie’, he has 16 W’s and is the Staff ACE. Burnett is nothing more than a # 6 SP on this team now and many Yankee Fans feel the same way about his mediocre less than average pitching efforts.

    Nothing new, he has been this way for years, Cashman was desperate for pitching at the time and Burnett is the result. Your tough guy, internet bully, Cub Scout BS is almost as funny as Burnett’s pitching and the thoughts that Girardi, Rothschild and Co. will ‘fix him’.

  12. GreenBeret7 August 16th, 2011 at 3:19 am

    Whatever you say, queenie

  13. Vineyard Yankee August 16th, 2011 at 3:42 am

    That’s correct ‘Pinkie’, now why don’t you gear up to provide for some nice minor league updates for us later on today, at least you are good at one thing.

  14. Jacob Ruppert August 16th, 2011 at 3:50 am

    How could anyone with any brain cells whatsoever, compare Burnett to Sabathia, simply because of 2 poor starts from Sabathia?

  15. Vineyard Yankee August 16th, 2011 at 3:52 am

    Jacob Ruppert August 16th, 2011 at 3:50 am

    Your guess is as good as mine, but then again just consider the source. LOL !

  16. West Coast Yankee Fan August 16th, 2011 at 4:05 am

    GB – do you happen to know the price of a hot dog in the GCL? Or is that above your pay grade?

  17. West Coast Yankee Fan August 16th, 2011 at 4:13 am

    GB7 – There has been a great deal of controversy concerning the length of Claudio Custodio’s laces. What’s your take on that? Thanks.

  18. West Coast Yankee Fan August 16th, 2011 at 4:16 am

    GB7 – Do you think Yeicok Calderon is a potential first ballot Hall of Famer? What say you?

  19. Crawdaddy August 16th, 2011 at 5:34 am

    Chad,

    If this is what this board has come to at night, perhaps, it’s time to release outright certain posters.

  20. Vineyard Yankee August 16th, 2011 at 5:59 am

    Because some don’t choose to drink the ‘kool aid’ here when high paid players under perform ? To criticize players when they don’t do their job ? Post ones opinion when one doesn’t agree with the rah rah nonsense that isn’t warranted ? Right O sport.

  21. joeman August 16th, 2011 at 6:07 am

    not a good start for sure from AJ, pitched against a team with the 2nd most beats in the majors …I was expecting much more

  22. Vineyard Yankee August 16th, 2011 at 6:12 am

    That’s the whole problem with Burnett, you never know what you will get on a particular nite and when he will go in the tank. His inconsistency is mind boggling.

  23. Ken Phelps August 16th, 2011 at 6:42 am

    AJ Burnett gets overanalyzed to death.. There’s nothing to discuss.. He’s Just not that good. He’s a .500 career pitcher..he’s .500 this year with a bad era….he got a mega contract off one good year in toronto. However it is maddening to hear him praised by giradi and cashman… Almost as maddening to hear his excuses…he basically gets paid 16 million to make pies

  24. Abe Peteraham August 16th, 2011 at 7:15 am

    What’s Girardi to do? Say AJ stinks?
    You gotta keep supporting him and hope he throws a gem or two when it counts. It’s that simple.
    They’re not gonna make a hard decision on him until playoffs.

  25. Erin August 16th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    swbyankeesTT New story: Rodriguez to rehab with SWB Yankees tonight, Wednesday http://t.co/3PZUDgS

  26. Erin August 16th, 2011 at 7:29 am

    Gossip Break: http://tiny.cc/u72xm

  27. Ghostwriter August 16th, 2011 at 7:32 am

    Vineyard Yankee August 16th, 2011 at 5:59 am

    Because some don’t choose to drink the ‘kool aid’ here when high paid players under perform ? To criticize players when they don’t do their job ? Post ones opinion when one doesn’t agree with the rah rah nonsense that isn’t warranted ? Right O sport.
    ===============

    Ummm… Actually, it might have something to do with the endless repetition of fairly obvious points, and the childish taunts.

  28. blake August 16th, 2011 at 7:33 am

    Everyone passed on Josh Bell because they were sure he was going to college……and he signed for 5 million. As LGY mentioned, Norris for 2 million ….so the two top “signability” guys from the draft wound up signing.

    Great win last night…..let’s keep it rolling tonight.

  29. MG August 16th, 2011 at 7:36 am

    there is a big difference between posters like myself who don’t want Burnett in the rotation because of his performance (or lack thereof) and identify the reasons why (consistently missing the glove with his fastball by as much as 18″) and the whiners, name callers, and complainers who have little or no knowledge of the game but think everything should be perfect all the time.

    I’ll be the first one to praise Burnett if he starts hitting the glove with a fastball when it’s on the outside corner instead of putting it middle-in so it can be ripped.

    Until then, he’s not fooling anyone and the Yankees have 5 better pitchers for the rotation, period. Keeping him there and most likely pulling Phil Hughes is just stupid and hurts the Yankees chances of winning #28 this year.

  30. AldotheApache August 16th, 2011 at 7:40 am

    Crawdaddy says:
    August 16, 2011 at 5:34 am
    Chad,

    If this is what this board has come to at night, perhaps, it’s time to release outright certain posters.

    ——–

    Agree.

    But then again, he’s already posting with multiple handles, proven fact, so he’d just post under a new one, for certain.

  31. TheStraw August 16th, 2011 at 7:50 am

    Saying that you have a chance to feel like you’re contributing is not exactly a ringing endorsement or positive spin from Girardi.

  32. blake August 16th, 2011 at 7:51 am

    MG,

    I agree with your take…..my whole thing is I don’t want AJ blocking younger guys that are better than him. If he’s not doing that and can pitch like a decent back end starter then ok…..but if they remove Hughes in favor of him then that that’s what he’s doing…..he’s blocking someone 10 years younger from developing.

    Im happy that he got a win last night though….I don’t dislike him and I think he’s doing the best he can…..its just the way it is.

  33. Mell August 16th, 2011 at 7:54 am

    Everyone passed on Josh Bell because they were sure he was going to college……and he signed for 5 million.
    =============================

    Good for the Pirates. Something of a gamble for a high school kid, but if you’re a fan, you have to appreciate the commitment. Of course, for real fan appreciation, a BIG commitment to McCutchen is probably necessary.

  34. blake August 16th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    DWinfield_ESPN 16 Aug People debate the pros and cons of sports issues all the time; even if Jim Thome will be a future HOFer. Answer is of course he will be!

    Should be 1st ballot.

    Bubba Starling signed for 7.5 million…..the Royals future could be very bright.

  35. blake August 16th, 2011 at 7:58 am

    Mell,

    I agree….I like to see teams with good fan bases towns like the Royals and Pirates have something to feel good about again. Both organizations are trending up….

  36. MG August 16th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    blake August 16th, 2011 at 7:51 am
    MG,

    I agree with your take…..my whole thing is I don’t want AJ blocking younger guys that are better than him. If he’s not doing that and can pitch like a decent back end starter then ok…..but if they remove Hughes in favor of him then that that’s what he’s doing…..he’s blocking someone 10 years younger from developing.

    Im happy that he got a win last night though….I don’t dislike him and I think he’s doing the best he can…..its just the way it is.
    —————————————————–
    blake, we agree, of course-Hughes was better than Burnett last year and is better right now, why pull him from the rotation?

    If the Yankees are so set that they want Burnett in the rotation then just shut down Colon for a couple of weeks, he’s already shown he can do that without needing a rehab start and he hasn’t been throwing the ball nearly as well as he was earlier in the season-the whole purpose with him is to have him in the rotation throwing heat in the postseason, what happens for the next couple of weeks isn’t going to change that one bit.

  37. Mell August 16th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    Saying that you have a chance to feel like you’re contributing is not exactly a ringing endorsement or positive spin from Girardi.

    ==============================

    You don’t see the positive message there? Clearly you have not taken a big hit off the objective pipe.

  38. Erin August 16th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Mell August 16th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    You don?t see the positive message there? Clearly you have not taken a big hit off the objective pipe.

    *****************************

    :lol:

  39. Erin August 16th, 2011 at 8:16 am

    More life lessons from Joba Chamberlain ;)

    Joba_62 Morning! It’s about showtime. Little things sometimes get overlooked but It’s the little things that make the big things possible!

  40. Yankee Trader August 16th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    If the Yankees are so set that they want Burnett in the rotation then just shut down Colon for a couple of weeks, he’s already shown he can do that without needing a rehab start and he hasn’t been throwing the ball nearly as well as he was earlier in the season.

    MG-

    I’m attaching this mornings Filip Bondy article from the NY Daily news that supports your statement above. I’m not sold on Colon going to the bullpen, but it raises and supports that possibility.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....ogjam.html

  41. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    Blake/MG-

    I’m with you guys. I hope they do not remove Hughes in favor of AJ.

    Trouble is I think they might.

    :(

  42. MG August 16th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Yankee Trader August 16th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    MG-

    I’m attaching this mornings Filip Bondy article from the NY Daily news that supports your statement above. I’m not sold on Colon going to the bullpen, but it raises and supports that possibility.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..ogjam.html
    ———————————–
    I don’t think much of Bondy, particularly since he picked the Pats to beat the Giants 41-7 in the Super Bowl a few years ago but at least part of his take makes sense.

    I still want Colon making starts in the postseason if he’s throwing the ball well, my approach is to give him the chance to do that as opposed to Bondy basically throwing in the towel on Colon.

  43. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Ivan the Great has a chance to put the Yankees back in sole posession
    of 1st place tonight.

    Bring that badass slider Ivan.

    :)

  44. Yankee Trader August 16th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    MG-

    I attached the article to raise some debate amongst us. I certainly want to see Colon in peak form come the postseason as a potential #2 starter. Does he, or should he, have an innings limit to protect his stem cell, platelet rich plasma, treatments to his shoulder and elbow??

  45. pkyankfan69 August 16th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    Nova is going to need to pitch a gem tonight.
    Danny Duffy and his 1.62 Whip will probably pitch 7 shut out against the Yanks cuz they have never seen him before.

  46. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    YT-

    Rather just skip some of Bartolo’s starts to keep him fresh if fatigue is a concern.

    We have more than enough BP arms.

    You really want to see Colon starting as long as he is able.

    His location has been a little off lately but he’s still bringing the heat.

  47. Erin August 16th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Danny Duffy? Sounds like a cartoon character

  48. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    Erin-

    Let’s turn him into one.

    ;)

  49. Yankee Trader August 16th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    MTU-

    Lefties Danny Duffy and Bruce Chen were both hammered by Boston in their last meeting the end of July. I suspect the Yankees to do the same!! :)

  50. Erin August 16th, 2011 at 8:38 am

    School days:

    Joba_62 He’s gettin ready! I have butterflies and we aren’t even at the school yet http://t.co/4n10oYj

  51. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    YT-

    The schedule favors us right now.

    Time to make hay.

    Sux can eat our dust. Or so I hope.

    :)

  52. 108 stitches August 16th, 2011 at 8:44 am

    A win is a win in spite of another nail biter from Burnett. Props to the pen for locking the game down and the guys that produced to get the runs to bail out Burnett.

  53. Shame Spencer August 16th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    LOL, just got to read through the comments in the thread. Looks like a lot of people are hitting the objective pipe after dark.

  54. Yankee Trader August 16th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    MTU

    Wouldn’t it be great to start a long winning streak and put the rest of the AL East far into the rearview mirror- especially with 14 games to play in 13 days the end of the season!

    Attached Yankee September schedule, doesn’t have the DH that will probably be played on September 21st as a makeup with the Rays, which will make it 3 make-up games that week!

    http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....1&m=9

  55. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    YT-

    Yes it would. I was really referring to the near-term schedule.

    KC, Minny, then the A’s and Baltimore I believe.

    I take nothing for granted but we can own these teams.

    Hopefully A-Rod provides some of the additional offense to help accomplish a nice run.

    Rosters expand soon too.

    I guess, as always, I have taken a huge hit off of the Optimist pipe.

    :)

  56. bisonthrow August 16th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    Does anyone else feel that a realignment of the divisions (mainly the AL East) is needed. RedSox/ Yankees will win division and wild card and its very possible that tampa will miss the playoffs despite possibly being a top three or four team. I think a rearrangement would increase the competitiveness of the game.

  57. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    So much for his Mo-Ness being finished.

    :)

  58. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    The Rays should go somewhere where they will be appreciated.

    ;)

  59. Shame Spencer August 16th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    “KC, Minny, then the A’s and Baltimore I believe.”

    We just need to play as well against them as we do on paper. I definitely think we can win the KC series and knowing Alex may be back for the next two or three is a huge plus.

  60. Yankee Trader August 16th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Burnett missed by 1/3rd of an inning, what is considered a “quality start.”

    Watching the game last night, even if he had gotten the last out to get his quality start, an average of 2 base runners/inning certainly didn’t make me feel any better.

  61. MTU August 16th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Shame-

    Correctamundo.

    Take another hit off of my optimist’s pipe.

    :)

  62. Erin August 16th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    New Post- Rivera: “I have peace of mind, believe me”

    :arrow:

  63. blake August 16th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    I think you have to keep Hughes on turn. He’s just coming out of ST mode really in building arm strength and Ill admit I have some growing concerns about Colon….the velocity is still good but his location hasn’t been and he just looks to be wearing down a bit to me. Its a risk to rely on a 38 year old who hasn’t thrown a full season in 6 years. Hughes is the guy that has the ability to pitch a game 2 or 3 in a playoff game…..he did it last year. Thy have to keep him on turn and stretched out IMO…..have to.

  64. Villa Nova-Ya August 16th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    And how does realignment help, unless you do a North/South alignment rather than an East/West alignment.

    Tampa is in the east.

    You know years ago Atlanta was an NL West team. Then someone looked at a map, and when they did realignment Atlanta got put in the NL East.

  65. Yankee Trader August 16th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    The Rays should go somewhere where they will be appreciated.
    —————————————-
    Maybe contraction would be best for teams that can’t put fans in seats to resign players, or use revenue sharing to line the owner’s pockets.

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