Game 124: Yankees at Twins
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Gameday Thread on Aug 20, 2011 
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YANKEES (76-47)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Andruw Jones DH
Russell Martin C
Eduardo Nunez 3B
Brett Gardner LF
RHP A.J. Burnett (9-9, 4.61)
Burnett vs. Twins
TWINS (54-70)
Ben Revere CF
Trevor Plouffe RF
Joe Mauer C
Justin Morneau 1B
Jason Kubel DH
Danny Valencia 3B
Rene Tosoni LF
Luke Hughes 2B
Matt Tolbert SS
LHP Francisco Liriano (8-9, 5.12)
Liriano vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 7:10 p.m., YES Network / MLB Network
WEATHER: The weather has been great here in Minneapolis. Another blue sky. Temperature in the 70s. Very light breeze blowing out to center.
UMPIRES: HP D.J. Reyburn, 1B Ron Kulp, 3B Jim Wolf
There is a three-man crew tonight. Brian O’Nora is out because of a personal medical matter.
THE HITS KEEP COMING: The Yankees have recorded at least 10 hits in each of their past six games, batting .344 (78-for-227) with 26 extra-base hits (13 doubles, three triples and 10 home runs) since August 13. This is their longest streak of games with double-digits in hits this season.
DRIVING THEM IN: Mark Teixeira is the 27th active player to reach 1,000 RBI, and the fifth current Yankee (Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Andruw Jones and Jorge Posada). Teixeira is only the sixth player all time to collect at least 1,000 RBI within his first nine Major League seasons. You’ve heard of the other five: Joe DiMaggio, Hank Greenberg, Ted Williams, Al Simmons and Albert Pujols.
RUSSELL’S MUSCLE: Russell Martin has 15 home runs this season, second most among American League catchers and four shy of his career-high of 19 set in 2007 with the Dodgers. He has hit three home runs in his past two games and five home runs in his past nine road games.
UPDATE, 7:19 p.m.: For now, the Yankees have caught a break because Trevor Plouffe didn’t score from second on a hard-hit Joe Mauer double, but Burnett now has to face Morneau and Kubel with runners at second and third and one out.
UPDATE, 7:24 p.m.: Ugly pitch in the dirt by Burnett. It gets by Martin and the run scores on a wild pitch. It’s 1-0 Twins in the first.
UPDATE, 7:26 p.m.: Good throw by Gardner made it a closer play than I expected, but the run still scores on a sac fly and it’s 2-0 Twins.
UPDATE, 7:37 p.m.: First-pitch homer by Valencia makes it 3-0 in the second. Here we go…
UPDATE, 7:43 p.m.: Sharp double down to left. Looks like it just caught the line past third base and Burnett’s struggles continue. Tosoni being thrown out trying to steal was a gift.
UPDATE, 7:52 p.m.: Visit to the mound after Burnett’s second walk of the inning. Stadium is playing Crazy Train.
UPDATE, 7:56 p.m.: Third walk of the inning, and here comes Ayala. Burnett lasted an inning and two third. He got five outs, one of them because his catcher threw out a base runner.
UPDATE, 8:23 p.m.: The Yankees got a run in the third, but this is a big hill to climb. Burnett was charged with all five runs in the second inning, and his final line is 1.2 IP, 5 H, 7 R, 7 ER, 3 BB, 1 K, 2 WP. Ugly.
UPDATE, 8:43 p.m.: Aaron Laffey grew up rooting for the Yankees. Think he expected to make his debut for them in a game like this?
UPDATE, 9:06 p.m.: And Laffey just walked in a run. Not good for this Yankees pitching staff.
UPDATE, 9:40 p.m.: Defensive changes. Posada is now at first, Chavez at third, Nunez at short, Martin at second and Cervelli catching. Three catchers on the field.
UPDATE, 9:45 p.m.: In the new lineup, Posada is batting first, Cervelli third and Chavez fourth.
Please play nice, everyone. Go Yankees!!
What is Girardi looking for out of A.J. Burnett today? “Just go out and compete,” Girardi said. “Throw strikes. Locate. For A.J. it’s mixing his pitches just like Hughes did yesterday, and locate.”
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Mix his pitches? All two of them? Let’s count how many time AJ throws something other than a 4-seamer or curveball.
Tar, please go back and check if you would like. I am fairly certain I have been using this blog for more than a year. Whereas I have never seen DADinIowa prior to this week.
For the love of god, what in the hell is going on here?
Oh man Luis, I was fortunate enough to spend two weeks on Isla de Margarita in a little fishing town, I think the name was San Francisco but I can’t recall for sure. We were filming on a boat at daybreak and every morning the women used to come meet us with fresh breakfast. Unbelievably good, we all needed naps we would gorge ourselves on Arepas, my favorites were Rika and Jamon and Queso and Mi Negra. For dinner I used to get Pescado en salsa de coco; lots of fish there. QUE RICO!
Go Good AJ! Go Yanks!
fish,
there are more spic in this blog than you think, lol, including me
Fish, please play nice. Racist comments aren’t appreciated.
WCYF,
If you ever return, please contact me and i’ll take you to Los Roques, if you liked Margarita you are going to rave about Los Roques, imagine Tahiti but better
Game thread
I am going to do my best to talk basball.
Deal.
luis August 20th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
fish = 9RC
Didn’t make Liriano work real hard that inning. Come on good AJ!!!
Go Yankees!!!, Go AJ!!!!
AJ Burnett . . . . downing first shot of Don Julio.
VY,
ok, good to know
Nice comeback.
Oh poof
Aj came back from that count real nice there, spoke to soon
Perfect example – Martin setup outside – right down the middle on 0-2. He has no idea where the ball is going.
gotta go, play nice! )
Shot number two.
Burnett should change his first and middle names to Matthew Bruce, aka MB or ‘MeatBall’ Burnett.
It’s really become painful to watch this guy out there.
Return of the midges.
We might get lucky here, the man in second should have scored on that double
Wow. ALmost had him 3 times now
I didn’t count AJ on my assestment, ugh
You can’t ask your catcher to block wild pitches all game.
I’m finished complaining about Burnett, it’s a waste of time and emotion.
There is really nothing to analyze about him, Bert Blyleven just made the best point-he is overthrowing the curve ball so much he has no idea where it is going. That is coming from one of the best curve ball pitchers of all time.
He struck the guy out what can you do? he was out on the 0-2 pitch but the ump decided to be nice to justin and screw the yanks
That throw was right on the money, it’s a shame Martin didn’t hold it
just tuned into the game and down already 2-0. Ugh AJ Burnett what more do we have to know…
Nice try by Brett and Martin, very close.
going on 30 pitches in the first inning. Looks like we’ll see Noesi at some point this game.
So the ump screwed us out of 2 runs.Guess he wanted to give them back since Minn cried about the 2 run homer.Just M was out on the 0-2 pitch clearly but since the ump missed it they got a run on the WP and then a SF all because the ump screwed him.If that was any other pitcher you guys would be going nuts but since you want to pick on Burnett you refuse to admit he got screwed.
Burnett’s mechanics are awful. He flings the ball half the time, his shoulder flies open and he falls off to the third base side a lot – and don’t even try to figure out where his release point is; it’s different every pitch.
Anyone who does not think AJ got hosed that inning is just not a fair fan.AH got hosed when he had Justin Ked on the 0-2 pitch.Even John and Kay both said he got hosed.
You guys are such fair weather pull only for the guys you like it is sick.AJ WAS HOSED and not 1 person besides me posted it.THE 0-2 PITCH WAS STRIKE 3 INNING OVER NO RUNS BUT YOU GUYS RATHER HAVE AJ GIVE UP THE RUNS SO YOU CAN COMPLAIN MORE ABOUT HIM.
why do they have to replay the Midge game in Cleveland? Just another Torre failure that cost the Yankees a very important playoff game. I’ll never understand why Joe didn’t take the team off the field that night.
Watching AJ throw that wild pitch, all I could think of was this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2vEtfyveeY
There is absolutely no way AJ should even sniff a playoff start if the management is using their heads.
You guys are such fair weather pull only for the guys you like it is sick.AJ WAS HOSED and not 1 person besides me posted it.THE 0-2 PITCH WAS STRIKE 3 INNING OVER NO RUNS BUT YOU GUYS RATHER HAVE AJ GIVE UP THE RUNS SO YOU CAN COMPLAIN MORE ABOUT HIM.
Yeah, we get the point. Some guys deserve a break in life. AJ Burnett is not one of them.
Nick,
LOL, very apropiate for the moment
I guess in ralph’s world the Twins didn’t hit consecutive line drive doubles in the 1st inning, they should have both been caught.
Yeah 2 doubles and a passed ball and we are supposed to cut AJ some slack.. SERIOUSLY!!!
No reason for AJ to be in the rotation.
hey ralph, did he get hosed there too?
Come on! Girardi how long today huh? Like we all didn’t know this was coming?
I can’t stand AJ.. He is just a shell of a pitcher. Shouldn’t even be in the rotation.
ralph,
We all get your point, no need to use capital letters, it seems that you are shouting at us…remember that in most discusions both ends of the argument have valid points…..In the case of AJ probably most here have already made up their minds, respect them as we respect yours, thank you.
A homer now, well…..
another fastball that was supposed to be on the outside corner and wound up middle-in, those always get crushed.
Wow the Twins are scorching AJ’s fastball:(
I can’t wait to hear the excuses from AJ and Binder Joe tonight.
I’d swap him for Wandy right now… Now a walk!
This is getting out of hand in a hurry
Let me spell it out for you Girardi. ZERO fastball command. What’s the magic score? 5-0? 7-0?
Is it a good thing if you give up 1 or 2 runs every inning, but are able to stay away from the really big inning?
Shut up Kay! Tired of hearing how good AJ’s stuff is. I’d rather believe Sid Finch is a pitcher.
Good to see Brian Cashman’s vote of confidence in AJ worked the trick! Next, he’ll be pulling a rabbit out of his hat.
YES!!, good break for us
4 extra base hits and 3 batters retired at the plate. Great ratio, AJ.
it was foul
another fastball that tailed into the happy zone for Hughes…
That could be the new gameplan if AJ can’t get people out… walk ‘em and let Martin thrown them out.
Three doubles and a HR plus a WP and he’s not even out of the 2nd inning yet. Says it all
AJ has no command right now
Michael Kay is a total moron, the way he keeps on about AJ’s great stuff.
I guess we are going to have to wait until it’s 7-0 for someone to start warming up?? I hate when Girardi manages like this.
It was fair.. hit the chalk.
Is he in line to pitch vs. Boston?
I hate all of this ” he has no hit stuff”. Every damn pitcher in baseball has the potential for ” no hit stuff”. To say Aj could possibly throw a no hitter because of his stuff, would indicate that he throws his stuff with success and does it on a consistent basis. Anyways, who cares if he does have not hit stuff? if he is going to be a for sure loss 65 percent of the time… who the hell cares.
no command right now?
as opposed to when?
Ralph
I checked the location. I believe it was pitch 5, which was close, but definetly a ball.
http://www.brooksbaseball.net/.....type=3.gif
NYY fan in NH August 20th, 2011 at 7:47 pm
It was fair.. hit the chalk.
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I’m biased. lol
In all fairness, AJ is second in the league in walks. So he’s got that going for him. Which is nice.
I don’t know why they don’t move Burnett to the 3rd base side of the rubber. Then he would at least give the right handed batters more of a feeling of the ball coming in from behind them instead of right at them.
The way he’s throwing now it’s literally BP out there, his fastball just runs back over the middle without any late break and he gets hammered.
guess it is time to try another haircut.
Part of Burnett’s command and control problem stems from his bad mechanics. He has a hard time repeating it. I’ve never seen a pitcher look back at the pitching dirt after so many delivery of pitches.
It is frustrating to watch with AJ on the bound. I am sure it is frustrating for his team too except for cashman and girardi.
AJ —> bullpen
Come on Girardi! Stop giving games away!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The good thing is that with his pitch count, he won’t last past the fourth inning.
according to cashman burnett hasn’t pitched all that badly this year. i guess he’s right he looks pretty good so far. fans are not idiots. this ain’t north korea – the propaganda machine doesn’t work here
if AJ is not the one out of the rotation, the team is telling their fans they dont care about winning as much as we do…. simple as that.
make that 4-0.. His era is climbing towards 5.00 now.. Maybe he will match his era of last year.
forget the pen, he doesnt have any value there either.
on september 1, remove him from the rotation and sit him for the rest of the season.
ac1 August 20th, 2011 at 7:50 pm
if AJ is not the one out of the rotation, the team is telling their fans they dont care about winning as much as we do…. simple as that.
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Provocative but true.
Actually, AJ does not even deserve a bullpen spot, the bullpen is full of pitchers that are pitching better than he is.
Girardi you think it’s time top get someone up??? I am sick and tired of watching this moron get tattooed because of poor fastball location. Girardi and Cashman can continue to defend AJ all they want but at this point they sound like morons. His fastball isn’t as good as it used to be and his location is awful. He really needs to go.
Four runs and 50-plus pitches against one of the lightest-hitting teams in the AL. How much longer can the Yankees management keep kidding themselves that Burnett is going to turn this around. It ain’t going to happen.
So much for Kay repeating about a dozen times how AJ hasn’t allowed a SB in his last 6 games.
Out by a mile!!!!!!!!!
AJ not exactly helping his cause
The Mets would be crazy to do Bay for AJ.
another missed ump call. Who cares AJ clearly is done!
For Brian Cashman, saving face by keeping expensive AJ in the rotation, is much much more important than winning. Saving face is everything to him.
54 pitches in 1 2/3 innings.
anyone expecting a 3-run homer or 2-run double here?
Can someone tell me where I can buy a Cashman Objective Pipe? I really need whatever he smokes in those things to continue watching AJ’s starts.
Why are we giving away this game away when it’s obvious to everyone but Girardi that the nut job has nothing?!?!?! Girardi is too stubborn and stupid sometimes especially when it comes to AJ.
IF AJ goes to the pen, he’ll be the low man on the totem pole, so he won’t be in a position to do too much damage. Who knows what’s going on in Cashman’s head, though?
Some bad calls tonight…and Burnett is not a pitcher who can overcome adversity like that. With Mauer up, could be 7-0 shortly.
Blondie Burnett stinks it up once again. Are you watching AJ, Cashman?
AJ=
Wild pitches
Walks
Implosions
Plenty for everyone.
After the game AJ “My heater this, my heater that. Well in 5 days I’ll be back out there.”
I really don’t understand why no one is warming up. Girardi knows Burnett is not going to last. Why?
Clutch, it’s the 2nd inning – you can’t kill your pen for the next few games.
It’s amazing how Phil Hughes at 25 can make adjustments and get back his mechanics and command, but this fool can’t even find the plate after 34 yrs. Just freakin ridiculous.
Hopefully Girardi’s plan all along has been to give AJ enough rope to hang himself.
There’s really nothing worse than watching AJ Burnett pitch. What complete and utter garbage.
Again at least he throws pies because that is so important (sarcasm)
Burnett is such a loser! Unfortunately, neither Cashman or Girardi have the b-lls to take him out of the rotation because of his high salary. Yanks need to eat the salary and deal this overpaid headcase to the NL during the off season. A B-level prospect will do!
Clutch, it’s the 2nd inning – you can’t kill your pen for the next few games.
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noesi can come in for 4-5 innings. he is going to the minors when alex returns anyway…
Guys,
Eventually the FO is going to do what’s best for the team, count on it, winning is far more important than justifying AJ spot on the rotation
Kill the pen? That’s why you have a long man exactly for this situation. So you choose to lose the game because you want to save your pen?
the Yankees aren’t going to make the wrong decision on the rotation.
There is too much at stake for the team and the other 24 players.
Girardi has said that he hasn’t had to make the decision yet, it’s incomprehensible after the way Hughes pitched last night that either he or Nova will be dropped. It’s possible they could give Colon a breather and keep Burnett in turn for a few more starts but Burnett isn’t starting a game in the postseason, that ship has already passed.
Why is Noesi on this club? Hello?
Burnett’s stuff isn’t even that great. His velocity has dropped 1-2 mph over the past few years, and his fastball is pretty straight. If he had great stuff he could get away with mistake pitches, but nearly every fastball in the zone is hit hard.
He needs to be taken out of the rotation but the sad part is, no one in the bullpen deserves to be sent down because of him. I don’t care about his salary, I just wish we could get rid of his roster spot.
Ayala, Noesi, anyone.
It’s impossible to watch this guy every 5th day
“Blondie Burnett stinks it up once again. Are you watching AJ, Cashman?
AJ=
Wild pitches
Walks
Implosions
Plenty for everyone.
After the game AJ “My heater this, my heater that. Well in 5 days I’ll be back out there.”
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You forgot to mention my hook this… My hook that… He always talks about his stupid hook
Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My blood is boiling watching this fool pitch. The worst pitcher ever to don pinstripes.. Bases loaded.. Get him out Girardi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok THAT should have been strike 3, but he is all over the place anyway….
Girardi just ignored him and AJ yelled something back at the mound.
He had the gall to give words to Girardi on his way off the mound. What a loser!
AJ should get released for that. He just said to Girardi that’s “freaking bs”. What a moron…
Uh oh! Burnett just said “that’s bulls**t! You cannot tolerate that!
Ac, that’s true………….. Joe tends to give his starters long rope, though, so this is no surprise.
Cashman is the typical executive, who spends 99% of his time covering his butt. And Binder Joe is the toady who just does Cashman’s bidding. As a result, I guy who shouldn’t even be in the league will be the #2 starter in the playoffs.
Ooooooo did you see what AJ said? Looks like he’s rotation spot days are numbered..
The F’N BS comment, figured that was directed towards the umpire. Kay says it was toward Joe G?
Wow……… AJ needs to smoke the “shut the hell up and respect your manager” pipe
AJ will get skipped his next start.
did he just yell, “this is B-LL S–T”?
MG,
Probably this game just cost AJ his spot….i could be wrong though
IF he directed that to Joe, but I suspect he was pissed off at himself – remember that game in Fenway when he blew up?
the last pitch to Mauer wasn’t a strike, it was both low and inside…
Aj is done
AJ, there’s a wall in the clubhouse that just insulted you… are you gonna take that?????
You cant help but to lose respect for girardi, cashman, and the entire yankees front office when it comes to AJ Burnett. They made one of the worst signings in the history of sports, and they are to proud to just admit it. They continue to just let this guy come out and derail any sort of run our team might be on. How can you possibly have confidence in someone and trust someone who time after time lets you down? Pay this guy off, tell him he did not make the team and send him on his way. Not sure how contracts work, but they need to tell him in spring training he was not good enough to make the squad. Its time for someone from the yankees to step up and take care of this mess. Quit with all this damn blind faith… you made the worst signing in yankees history… pay the dude his money and move on.
Gi Joe makes right call as AJ goes in clubhouse to break his hand
Uh oh, Girardi went back to the runway/clubhouse. AJ does not appear to be bruised though.
Now we will see what kind of leadership qualities Girardi/Cashman have. You cannot allow a player to talk to the manager that way without suspending him.
AJ can never take fault for his own actions. GO punch a wall and go on the DL PLEASE!!!
You forgot to mention my hook this… My hook that… He always talks about his stupid hook
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Your right, my bad.
ac1 August 20th, 2011 at 8:01 pm
did he just yell, “this is B-LL S–T”?
With a very unpleasant swear word before it. The man is a disgrace.
I think it is getting to the point where AJ is losing Girardi’s support after that comment coming off the mound….
Time to find a trade partner, PLEASE!
MG, yeah, that’s true.
RS, it’s why when Francesca says AJ has killer stuff, I have to laugh. He doesn’t…………….he’s just who he is and he’s not going to get better. His prior ability is a giant tease at this point.
Guarantee joe told him get his butt on the bench
Aj sucks, expensive and useless.
I give up on him.
I like AJ, but this was an awful performance. He had ZERO command of anything today. He had nothing. I haven’t given up on him. He was good in his last game and I believe he’ll bounce back because this performance is not the norm, only his 2nd game that he couldn’t finish 5 innings. But he really needs to get it together in his next outing.
RS, it’s why when Francesca says AJ has killer stuff, I have to laugh. He doesn’t…………….he’s just who he is and he’s not going to get better. His prior ability is a giant tease at this point.
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he does have killer stuff…. killing this team!
AJ really needs to be released. The Yanks would never do it with 2 years left on his contact but he is awful and they have absolutely no use for him. They can’t continue to send him out there with a garbage fastball and no location. For now Hughes should replace him and put him in the bullpen.
well, the good news is that we’ll probably see laffey this game, so there’s that
I missed it — what did AJ say?
What is wrong with Kay and Flaherty? AJ left the dugout after his last start, ripping off his shirt when he went down the steps.
For A.J. to pitch like this against this lineup and then act like it’s Girardi’s fault he’s coming out of the game after giving up 4 runs and loading the bases while getting 5 outs (including 1 CS) is just absurd.
That was not a good situation with A J. He should be suspended . He clearly said b.s. to Joe. I loved the free agent signing but this is rock bottom for him. Very immature and unprofessional.
AJ’s thinking – I could have done that!
The Yanks left AJ off the ALDS roster last year. I don’t think it’ll be that earth shattering that he doesn’t make the postseason SR. I also agree that the Yankees aren’t going to weaken their chances by making the wrong choice. I’ll always be grateful for AJ’s role in winning No. 27, & it was great that night watching him really rise to the occasion and get us out of town with the split. Right now though, he’s not in a position to help the Yankees, though Hughes and Nova are. I’d like to see both kids in that rotation, but I doubt that’s what they’ll do.
Wandy, Myers and hell i’d even take Zambrano for this chump.
That walk shouldn’t surprise anyone, Ayala only seems to be good in blow out games. With AJ pitching tonight I knew this would be the game that the loser Twins win.
Lockdown,
He didn’t pitched well, he was lucky facing a young line up that couldn’t square him up properly, but everything was tailing back to the middle of the plate.
Hughes is now your #2 starter.
Suzyn and John are so NOT on AJ’s side in all this — esp Suzyn.
Kay is a tool.
Go to Cubs and say Big Z for AJ, yes or no?
NYY fan in NH August 20th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Wandy, Myers and hell i’d even take Zambrano for this chump.
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Let’s not get carried away.
Wow. This is embarrassing. Thanks a bunch AJ.
You can’t blame Ayala there he had almost no time to warm up.
Good job, Ayala…….
If AJ’s comment when leaving the mound was aimed at Girardi, I’d love to see Burnett appear tomorrow with both eyes blackened this time.
This is just BS. Everyone’s mad at AJ for screwing up, so it’s time to tear him down for having an emotional reaction for getting pulled. So predictable, you can wind your watch to the piling on…
make that 7 runs charged to AJ. This is fitting. Wrong choice to bring in Ayala cause he obviously can’t handle the situation. Gave this game away early! I refuse to watch another AJ start.
AJ’s era is 4.96 now….
“As a result, I guy who shouldn’t even be in the league will be the #2 starter in the playoffs.”
Don’t be surprised if A.J. doesn’t even get a start in the playoffs. Nice to see him leave now that the runners he’s responsible for have scored.
AC, lol……..
That’s it? He sees his runners score and now he can leave?
igotid88 August 20th, 2011 at 8:06 pm
Hughes is now your #2 starter.
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Nothin’ wrong with that.
JAP,
Right now i think they might take the chance….
Burnett showed up Girardi coming off the mound but he isn’t the 1st pitcher in history to do that.
Girardi did the right thing by going into the clubhouse and obviously told him to get his butt back on the bench, I’ll give him props for doing that.
the Yankees have a really good clubhouse, one incident like this isn’t going to have an impact on the rest of the season.
they aren’t going to suspend Burnett, their is no justification for it. The may skip him in the rotation, however, if Garcia can throw his splitter on Monday and if Colon pitches OK in his next start.
Suzyn: “It’s just like watching Groundhog’s Day watching AJ pitch.”
No kidding.
“Right now though, he’s not in a position to help the Yankees, though Hughes and Nova are. I’d like to see both kids in that rotation, but I doubt that’s what they’ll do.”
I felt the same way, but given how poorly A.J. is pitching now and the way Hughes has bounced back, I just can’t see them removing one of those guys for A.J. at this point.
ac1,
Not a chance
J. Alfred Prufrock August 20th, 2011 at 8:08 pm
This is just BS. Everyone’s mad at AJ for screwing up, so it’s time to tear him down for having an emotional reaction for getting pulled. So predictable, you can wind your watch to the piling on…
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Being emotional is one thing. Cursing at and showing no respect for your manager on the mound in front of your team mates is another.
West Coast i’m not getting carried away. We as Yankee fans have alot of pride and having AJ basically take the Yanks out of every game is just pathetic. He could care less how he performs out there. His actions towards Girardi basically seals how i’ve felt about AJ for the past 2 years.
An injured garcia would have been better.
MG, no he’s not. You like to see fire from your pitchers – remember when Phil refused to take the ball from Joe’s hand in TX in 2008? AJ is a good guy, but he’s also emotional and immature……..
Like i said, On September 1, they can expand the roster, keep AJ and sit him on the bench for the rest of the year, then figure out who they can dump him off to in the offseason.
Girardi should be fired on the spot if he says anything positive about AJ after the game. Enough is enough already. It’s obvious that Cash and Girardi are saying positive things about him trying to get something positive out of him. But he is a immature, unstable guy with declining velocity and no command. Nova and Hughes has a future on this team he definitely doesn’t. It’s time to move on.
Kay said something, but I missed part of it – that Al Leiter just e-mailed him and said normally the manager (or is it the PC) sits next to the SP that was just pulled while watching the reliever try and get out of the mess. AJ was sitting all by his lonesome – he’s in for a tongue-lashing for sure
what the heck happened. I just turned the game on its 7-0 Twins?????
Mike Mussina once told Torre to get the f back in the dugout. AJ isn’t going to be suspended and it won’t be the last time a baseball player yells at their manager. AJ should be taken out of the rotation though since he simply isn’t any fun to watch pitch and lacks upside.
well, at least ayala didn’t give up one of his runs
NYY fan in NH August 20th, 2011 at 8:11 pm
West Coast i’m not getting carried away. We as Yankee fans have alot of pride and having AJ basically take the Yanks out of every game is just pathetic. He could care less how he performs out there. His actions towards Girardi basically seals how i’ve felt about AJ for the past 2 years.
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I was joking hence the smiley face.
Prufrock – you are wrong. AJ was on the ALDS roster last year, he just didn’t pitch since he wasn’t needed. But he was on the roster.
Kay said something, but I missed part of it – that Al Leiter just e-mailed him and said normally the manager (or is it the PC) sits next to the SP that was just pulled while watching the reliever try and get out of the mess. AJ was sitting all by his lonesome – he’s in for a tongue-lashing for sure
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He said that every PC he had made it a rule that the starter has to sit on the bench and watch the reliever get out of the mess they left behind. Not that the PC had to sit next to the pitcher.
“This is just BS. Everyone’s mad at AJ for screwing up, so it’s time to tear him down for having an emotional reaction for getting pulled. So predictable, you can wind your watch to the piling on…”
LOL, this guy could eat a baby on the mound and some of you idiots would still line up to defend him.
OK, so don’t suspend him but fine him privately and skip a rotation start. You cannot tolerate that kind of insubordination. I don’t care what Mussina said years ago.
Any chance anoyne claims him from waivers? Too bad.
Clutch, that’s not happening. I expect Joe to stonewall the media – he’s not going to praise AJ; he might say that he understands how a competitor’s juices get flowing or something like that. If you’re looking for Joe to condemn AJ in the media, that won’t happen………..
Rocked and gone, bye bye Burnett. Thanks for the help with my wager though on the over +9.
YankeesWFAN On 6/29 Burnett’s ERA was decent 4.05. It’s gone up 9 starts in a row, currently at 4.96. August ERA is an ugly 10.70. Just brutal.
If AJ is going to blow up, I prefer he do it in this fashion. The worse he pitches the less chance he sees the mound in the playoffs.
It’s about yankees standards. The fact that this organization would allow someone like AJ represent them is a absolute joke. Really wish the boss was still around. This crap would have never ever flown. Management is a absolute joke for letting this soap opera drag on this long. This is all one big joke to AJ… he doesn’t care and he is surely not trying. Yankees need to show some balls and bench this guy for good.
Jerkface, ok thanks – I knew I mixed it up. I like that philosophy…………
JF,
Diferent pitchers, Mussina had earned the right, AJ hasn’t…..but i agree that this wont get him suspended
Alright so maybe Burnett IS one of the worst in the AL
You cannot tolerate that kind of insubordination. I don’t care what Mussina said years ago.
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But its not really insubordination? It happens all the time. Its not like AJ wouldn’t leave the mound. You are having an overreaction to the hideous outing AJ had and then AJ being pissed he got taken out. But that doesn’t mean its anything special that means discipline.
At any rate it seems Girardi went and talked to him.
I don’t agree that AJ isn’t trying. He just isn’t capable, mentally or physically, of competing at the moment. Hopefully they’ll skip his turn at least once.
1 and 2/3 innings with 4 runs and bases loaded. I think many of the so called AAA pitchers that is waiting for a promotion could easily done that.
J. Alfred Prufrock August 20th, 2011 at 8:05 pm
The Yanks left AJ off the ALDS roster last year. I don’t think it’ll be that earth shattering that he doesn’t make the postseason SR. I also agree that the Yankees aren’t going to weaken their chances by making the wrong choice. I’ll always be grateful for AJ’s role in winning No. 27, & it was great that night watching him really rise to the occasion and get us out of town with the split. Right now though, he’s not in a position to help the Yankees, though Hughes and Nova are. I’d like to see both kids in that rotation, but I doubt that’s what they’ll do.
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I’m not going to pile on for AJ being frustrated as long as he’s frustrated with himself he could get as mad as he wants. He should be frustrated. If he were happy it would be weird. Though he should apologize to Joe afterwards. Doubt Joe will fault him for being upset.
He just needs to bounce back and not let this pile up. So he had nothing tonight, it doesn’t mean he can’t come back next game and right the ship. If he were constantly not finishing 2 innings, then there’s a problem. But that’s not the case.
I think it may be good for him to go to the bp for a bit, take a breather & work his stuff out. Being pulled has helped pitchers before & we need AJ to pitch the way he can for the remainder.
Burnett showed up Girardi coming off the mound but he isn’t the 1st pitcher in history to do that.
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When is the last time a Yankee pitcher did that?
I normally don’t care at all what Pete has to say nor do I follow him, but this was funny:
PeteAbe I’m telling you. Lackey vs. Burnett in Game 4 of the ALCS is going to be epic. Fox will chart balls, strikes and curses
I only saw this because it’s at the top of the blog page
10 ERA in august? He had an ERA of 10 last June, took him 2 months to break it out again.
Point taken West Coast! For a moment, I thought you were being Cashman like in defending AJ..lol
JM,
spot on
I mean last season in June. Just pushed it back 2 months this year. Thats a shame, I thought he wouldn’t be nearly as bad as he was last year this year. He was certainly pretty bad considering the run scoring environment but I thought a 4.50 ERA was attainable.
Now that I think about it, I don’t know which is funnier – the last comment or the idea of AJ pitching in the playoffs.
He’s definitely trying – he cares and I think he’s a good teammate. AJ is just not very good – that’s what it comes down to.
Wouldn’t we be better off if we just brought up the most advanced young starter from AAA and trade AJ for a AA prospect in the NL ?
AJ is a thrower with stuff, not a pitcher with stuff. Sorry, that’s just the way I see him.
The $ 80 million gift that just keeps on giving.
It’s funny when they signed AJ I said he will never stay healthy but when he does pitch he should be good. Now it’s unforunate that the guy is actually healthy.
Lock Down, the way AJ can pitch isn’t as good as you seem to imply. I don’t think he’s bad, but he’s very mediocre
Hey Vineyard, smart wager on the over.
I checked my yahoo email account, there are a couple messages from some unexpected places (I’ll try to answer them soon) but none from you. I’m eager to see that response you said you had yesterday. We might not end up seeing eye to eye on everything, but the best solution is probably the one you thought of before, to get a couple beers up in the wine country. So I look forward to hearing from you.
Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Wow……… AJ needs to smoke the “shut the hell up and respect your manager” pipe
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This… is the greatest post ever! No joke lol, thats amazing Betsy.
i would be shocked if Joe says anything negative about AJ, even after his reaction. We will prolly say, guys get upset I understand…blah, blah, blah
Well it’s never unfortunate that anyone is healthy, but it’s unfortunate that AJ hasn’t even maintained his performance from 2009.
Jerkface stick to stats you don’t know what you are talking about. Girardi went to the clubhouse and told him to get his worthless a** back to the bench while his runners were on base.
burnett has lost all his supporters even the betsy chic is turning on his tail. well almost turning on him
How many more of these “five games to be better” is A.J. allowed?
Moose also said that because he was an out away from a CG (not sure if it was a shut out) on the road in DET.
Betsy, I think he can pitch and I don’t think he’s abilities are mediocre. But this outing was beyond bad, no denying that. But I don’t think this outing is his typical outing, which people here seem to imply it is.
luis August 20th, 2011 at 8:09 pm
JAP,
Right now i think they might take the chance….
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luis, not sure what you’re referring to? You mean, leaving AJ out of the rotation? Or having both Hughes & Nova in the top 4? I think they’ll go conservative, and give Colon and Freddy the other spots (CC & Hughes, likely the other two, at this point, but we’ll know soon enough.) I’d rather go with two young arms in there, but they probably won’t.
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thanks niblick, that’s right, he just didn’t pitch. Any how, I don’t think AJ’s going to be one of the four PS starters.
BloggingBombers Hard to believe Burnett showed up Girardi as he walked off the mound — again. Becoming a routine at this point.
Shame, I have to say that Cashman deserves all the credit, lol. That pipe comment lends itself to so many situations – dude should be a stand up comic. With all the pipe smoking AJ and Cashman are doing, when they next are in the same room, they’d better make sure they have a window open or a fan going.
Uh yea dude, Girardi went and talked to him, I saw that and said it in my post, but its not like yelling at your manager never happens and results in suspensions when it does. Every baseball player in the game would probably be suspended at some point if that were the case. You’re just overreacting a bit.
Read Ball Four sometime.
pcaldera Burnett’s ERA in 59 starts since the beginning of 2010? 5.12
would be nice if we got a few more runs here. Its early we can crawl back into the game
Lockdown, this isnt typical?
His ERA has gone up every start since late june.
Last year, his era was well over 5.
Besides his April starts the last two years, this is very typical (though this one is more extreme).
Sux up 3-1 in Kansas City.
Yeah, let’s chip away….
i would be shocked if Joe says anything negative about AJ, even after his reaction. We will prolly say, guys get upset I understand…blah, blah, blah
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that’s probably because he is upset & probably Girardi would understand.
who cares about the playoffs and whether aj is on the team?
There are still 6 weeks in the season, that would be 7-8 more starts for AJ.
7-8 starts he should NOT be making.
Lock Down, no this isn’t a typical outing, but he’s just not that great. He’s a back end starter …….. and his upside just isn’t that “up”. He’s not going to develop – the best the Yankees can get out of him is decent pitching whereas Phil, while it may or may not happen this year, has the potential to be better. They can’t go with the 6 man much longer, so really AJ has to be the odd man out
Liriano is a shell of what he used to be but I am sure this lead is enough for him. Too bad Ayala gave up those extra runs.
I wonder what would have happened if we stuck with generation trey. Ian Kennedy looks to be the stud out of the 3. Hughes is a bit too brittle for my liking. A. Joke Burnett…. UGG
ac1, this year AJ not finishing 5 innings is NOT typical. He usually puts up zeroes before giving up a run.
AJ can have all the electric stuff he wants. Unless he’s pitching for the Harlem Globe Trotters there are no style points. He can pitch fine as a 4-5 for the next 2 years but that’s a disappointment. I remember getting sucked into the hype he was pushing about learning the art of pitching from the Doc in Toronto. Tea leaves looking ugly.
JAP,
Yes, i think they are going to give the kids the chance, because Garcia stuff doesn’t translate well against a good and patient line up or because Colon might be tiring, either way i don’t think they have many other options even if they go the conservative way
AJ will be out there in 5 days. Good thing the Yankees are not in a pennant race.
Girardi will not throw AJ under the bus. He will either say no comment or we discussed it.
what a difference a few weeks can make here when it comes to lohud love. dudes and dudettes jumping ship in all directions.
AJ needs a psychologist more than a pitching coach
Jerkface-
The situation with Mussina was completely different. Mussina had just given up a run in the 9th inning when he was about to finish a complete game shutout. When Torre started to come up the stairs, Mussina yelled “You stay right there!” No swearing. Good pitching.
AJ swearing at his manager after sucking the big one is not the same thing.
Can’t Freddy hand AJ one of his kitchen knives? Or make up some other injury that would DL him?
Betsy, I also think AJ should be bp bound. But I also think he can pitch a dominate game. There have been pitchers who have been pulled (even AAA bound), worked out their stuff & came back to help the team.
Management surely can’t keep saying the same thing about AJ, enough is enough.
Every other SP on the Yanks is much better at this point that AJ.
I would rather start Noesi, Wade, or Ayala any time.
AJ swearing at his manager after sucking the big one is not the same thing.
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He used bad language but he didnt swear at Girardi, he said its BS to be taken out. Its BS he said that but its not like he called Girardi a name. In both situations the pitcher on the mound was ‘showing up’ the manager. Mussina, of course, had more currency to spend in the situation, but as I said its not like AJ was throwing a tantrum on the mound. He left.
So AJ gets screwed by the ump on one strike and he isn’t able to get out of that inning after so its not his fault but the umps?
How does that work?
When the ump screws you then you are allowed to pitch badly and no blame should go back to the pitcher??
Pitchers get bad calls a lot in a day. The deal with it and throw the next pitch. If they can’t then don’t blame the ump. Blame the pitcher. You arent given a free pass when the ump makes a bad call. Its all still on AJ. There are tons of pitchers who get a bad call and suck it up and get the next guy out.
AJ is a fine pitcher. He is just paid way too much for what he is actually worth.
If AJ made 4 to 5 million then he wouldn’t get as much crap as he does now from the fans. He reminds me of Kevin Brown. Just a very unlikable guy.
No one liked AJ when he came. No one really likes him now. He would have to pitch a few no hitters for NY to give him any respect.
I cant wait till he is gone. AJ is a hillbilly fool who needs to get back on his tractor and STFU~
Joba is gone for a bit. Now we need to get rid of AJ. Two overhyped pitchers who have failed to be consistent and cost the Yankees games.
Interesting isn’t it that no other Yankee pitcher reacts that way after being knocked out. No punching clubhouse doors, no cursing at the manager, no attitude. Only Burnett.
# TheStraw August 20th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Can’t Freddy hand AJ one of his kitchen knives? Or make up some other injury that would DL him?
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That “stump” on his shoulders should DL him.
Girardi should of turned around and said to AJ your pitching is bs
Lock down, he hasn’t had a dominant game all year…………even last year he had a few (granted, they were early).
yankees won 95 games last year.
aj lost 15 games.
aj burnett is a guy that is 100% unpredictable…which means he’s unreliable.
one game, he can pitch 7 strong innings of 1-2 runs. another game he can’t get out of the 2nd inning.
now, we’ve seen a string of 9 bad games.
he’s reliable now…reliable to perform poorly.
getting him “back on track” means getting him back to unreliablity.
time to turn the page.
LockDown August 20th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
ac1, this year AJ not finishing 5 innings is NOT typical. He usually puts up zeroes before giving up a run.
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The length isnt typical, but the outcome is!
I’m not going to pile on for AJ being frustrated as long as he’s frustrated with himself he could get as mad as he wants. He should be frustrated. If he were happy it would be weird. Though he should apologize to Joe afterwards. Doubt Joe will fault him for being upset.
He just needs to bounce back and not let this pile up. So he had nothing tonight, it doesn’t mean he can’t come back next game and right the ship. If he were constantly not finishing 2 innings, then there’s a problem. But that’s not the case.
I think it may be good for him to go to the bp for a bit, take a breather & work his stuff out. Being pulled has helped pitchers before & we need AJ to pitch the way he can for the remainder.
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Lockdown, I’m on AJ’s side, but right now, I think Hughes and Nova are making a better case. I don’t care that he got upset. I laugh when people become indignant when players show emotion, or smile when the team’s losing, or talk to opposing players while they’re standing on base, etc…to me, there’s a lack of humanity somewhere in there, thinking there’s some prescribed behavior these guys should follow in a given situation…or that they have any idea how that person feels at that moment, etc…what really burns me up most is if a player fails, it’s open season on him, his character is attacked & he becomes morally wrong in everything he does, just because he failed…stupid people, shallow people…
I see to recall Torre laughing at the time. It was really funny to watch.
This entire AJ thing is a joke. I Cant even get mad anymore… whenever he pitches i expect to lose. Im sure everyone on the team loves him because it means they get the day off and no one in the media will focus on their 0-4 days because AJ was on the mound. It’s really sad that a organization as proud as the yankees would allow this absolute waste and disgrace of talent play for them. He could go 0-his next 50 and were still gonna hear the he has ” no hit stuff”.
AJ needs to find himself another team to play for. THAT would make everyone happy, I think. Don’t you?
Burnett was awful tonight, this is as bad as a starter can throw in a game, but it happens to every starter from time to time.
The problem is that he has no upside to his performance, his best is, at best, mediocre, and there is no reason to keep putting him out there when you have other options.
WCYF,
I think because he tries hard to perform, it’s just that he doesn’t have the ability to do so, and believe me that can be very frustrating.
“Burnett showed up Girardi coming off the mound but he isn’t the 1st pitcher in history to do that.”
the funniest thing i saw a pitcher do in showing up the manager was at macKenzie stadium in holyoke ,ma in a semi pro game.
we had this guy on the team we called crazy jerry who did have a very good arm. he had gone to the double a team manager who also played home games at that ballpark, talked him a tryout and threw 90mph for him in it. the manager sent a scout to watch crazy jerry pitch for us, but jerry walked like 4 hitters in a row to start the game and our manager went out and told him he was taking him out of the game.
the manager reached his hand out to get the ball and jerry threw the ball out of the stadium, over the light towers into the night. despite this being an amazing throw crazy jerry’s pro career took a serious nose dive.
Think about this, Having AJ burnett healthy will end up costing us more wins then a Injured Arod.
There are tons of pitchers who get a bad call and suck it up and get the next guy out.
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AJ is not among those tons of pitchers.
luis August 20th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
JAP,
Yes, i think they are going to give the kids the chance, because Garcia stuff doesn’t translate well against a good and patient line up or because Colon might be tiring, either way i don’t think they have many other options even if they go the conservative way
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luis, that would be my preference, but Garcia pitched a whale of a game up at Fenway in his last outing against Boston, not so good at the Stadium in his previous one…Colon may be tiring, if they think that, then it becomes more possible for both youngens to get a shot…
Betsy, he has had some dominant games, though early this year where he didn’t win any of them… hard luck loser. So I believe he can/will do it again this year, “if” he’s given more starts, which I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s bp and done for the year. I actually think bp will help straighten him out. so it could be a win win.
Not even close to a strike
Randy, that is a great story, thanks for adding some levity to this blog, it is really needed…
eboland11 Baghdad Bob didn’t come up with the kind of spin Girardi and Cashman have when it comes to Burnett. Tonight should be interesting
“pcaldera Burnett’s ERA in 59 starts since the beginning of 2010? 5.12″
That tells us what A.J. is at this point. He’s a 34-year old pitcher with declining velocity and an inability to repeat his delivery that has led to him becoming a below-average pitcher. I think the ERA for the AL this year is just under 4 and Burnett is just over 5. I don’t know if there would be any benefit in seeing how Burnett would respond to a reliever role, but whatever his role, he’s going to be increasingly marginalized. Nova and Hughes have already surpassed him. If given the chance I think Noesi would as well.
“AJ needs a psychologist more than a pitching coach”
actually yankee fans need therapy after aj pitches.
he’s become painful to watch.
Lock Down, the pen is not going to straighten him out – it’s not a place for miracles to happen. It’s not going to give him ability that he doesn’t already possess………..If he goes to the pen, I hope he does a good job
maybe AJ was one of those players who just hated the yankees more than anything in the world and decided it would be awesome to get signed to a mega deal with them and tank every game he was in. That would explain everything.
Joe is not going to kill his players in public, which I admire – I am not a fan of the Ozzie Guillen school of managing. Cashman doesn’t have to kill AJ, either, but he also can’t pretend that fans and the media are idiots and defend him again.
“Randy, that is a great story, thanks for adding some levity to this blog, it is really needed…”
mg-
it’s a long season. have to keep some perspective.
Randy, what do you think of moving Burnett over to the 3rd base side of the rubber to give him a different angle to right handed batters, is there a chance that could eliminate some of these leaking fastballs that get hammered all of the time?
J. Alfred Prufrock August 20th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
luis August 20th, 2011 at 8:28 pm
JAP,
Yes, i think they are going to give the kids the chance, because Garcia stuff doesn’t translate well against a good and patient line up or because Colon might be tiring, either way i don’t think they have many other options even if they go the conservative way
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luis, that would be my preference, but Garcia pitched a whale of a game up at Fenway in his last outing against Boston, not so good at the Stadium in his previous one…Colon may be tiring, if they think that, then it becomes more possible for both youngens to get a shot…
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JAP,
Garcia has to be perfect in order to survive, no margin of error….the kids stuff on the other hand plays better against them and have some wiggle room that Garcia’s doesn’t, JMHO
If the Yanks didn’t have anyone to replace AJ I totally understand leaving him in the rotation. But Hughes has looked better and better in every start and his curveball has definitely improved. You can’t put him in the bullpen for this nut job. Cashman has to face the facts that AJ’s contract is a bad one and they can’t continue to let him cost them games when they have better pitchers to replace him.
aj burnett has 8 quality starts in 25 games. sprtsfans he is horrible, and a moron.
he is the hillbilly. anyone who thinks he can be fixed needs a lobotomy.
this guy is the biggest mental case in sports…..
Any of you guys watch the franchise on showtime? bruce bochy would never put up with Aj’s crap. I would looooove to see a episode of bochy having to deal with AJ.
Curry ought to be broadcasting more games on YES. After listening to Kay and Flaherty dumbing down the conversation on Granderson’s MVP chance, Curry is bringing the logic tonight.
Isn’t Burnett good friends with… Pavano?
stuart-
Aj could lose his next 50 starts and yankee fans will claim he still has ” no hit stuff”
Betsy, in the pen as the long man, he won’t play as much. He can spend time focusing on his secondary pitches. I’m not going to let this game dictate what he needs, since it was clearly a game of zero command. Last week he was throwing mainly 1st pitch strikes. But what I am saying, is he could work on his change up a bit more. It’s a good pitch but I would like to see more of it. And work on his cutter a bit more with MO & maybe look into the slutter.
I’m just saying good things could happen from bad things.
mg is going to fix the hillbilly. after all 5 to 7 major league pitching coach’s dozens of teammates, etc.
the guy has sand between the ars and is unfixable. let him go, put him in the pen, etc..
fixing him, what a joke. the guy is 34 not 25……….
Why was Flores never called up from AAA, didn’t he do well there ?
Anyone ?
I still think we can win this game.
btw aj’s stuff also is not that unbeleivable. he tops out at 95 max. and throws a curve that whe right is never a strike…
his stuff is overrated and his is mental midget or psycho.
to imagine how much time we spend debating a totally worthless loser is staggering…
Welcome Laffey!
stuart a August 20th, 2011 at 8:48 pm
mg is going to fix the hillbilly. after all 5 to 7 major league pitching coach’s dozens of teammates, etc.
the guy has sand between the ars and is unfixable. let him go, put him in the pen, etc..
fixing him, what a joke. the guy is 34 not 25……….
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look, idiot, I’ve been very critical of Burnett for the past few weeks and don’t want him in the rotation. I made a suggestion and asked Randy, who I respect (unlike you) what he thought.
If you don’t like it go jump off a bridge.
It’s still a “laugher” so far.
Why was Flores never called up from AAA, didn’t he do well there ?
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Cash says he will be one of the Sept. 1 call ups.
30% of his starts are quality start.s games where he gives up 3 runs or less in 6 innings.
are you people morons, he stinks… he finally won his first game in august in 3 years by going 5 1/3 and giving up quite a few hits.
not watching the game in SF but who is suprised when he threw a wild pitch with men on 2nd and 3rd in the 1st or 2nd inning???? no one with a brain would be suprised by that…..
back in second place!
mg-
burnett has such a rotational delivery he has to have really good timing to command his pitches. he has to be really precise with his release point or as you say the ball comes back in to righties , often in the heart of the plate.
it’s just who burnett is at this point in his career.
he got by on incredible talent for so long he doesn’t seem interested in changing what he does ,and with his reduced velocity, he just isn’t the guy with untouchable stuff anymore.
i think he needs more than just a move on the rubber. he needs to acknowledge to himself that he isn’t the same guy he used to be , and learn to be a pitcher rather than a thrower. do i think it’ll happen. probably not, but the yankees could increase the chances, by sending him to the bullpen.
that would probably get his attention.
Interesting, Sox have promoted Lavarnway, their version of Montero.
aj is unfixable . the guy is 34 yers old. been in the big leagues about 11 years. he has limited mental capacity and stinks. plain and simple. die your hair, get more tatoos, wear more chains, it is irrellevant. after he gives up a hit he gets gunshy, has no control most of the time, throws only 2 pitches, cannot field, throws to many wild pitches, etc.
HE IS AWFUL AND CANNOT BE FIXED….he is not roy halladay at 25 going back to the minore to be fixed….
he should be pulled fro mthe rotation absolutely. if merit matters aj needs to go to the pen or womething but starting him is just not fair to the team. he does not deserve it, bottom line…….
cc gave up 5 homers 2starts ago, btw he still went 7 or 8 innings……….
randy I
Very good post
randy, I’ll agree he’ll never be able to change as a pitcher and make major adjustments, it’s far too late in his career.
My thought was that with him on the 1st base side of the rubber there is no intimidation factor for right handed batters and they get great cuts at the those middle-in fastballs. He’s a big guy with a long delivery, coming from behind the right handed batter from the 3rd base side might loosen them up a little, particularly since no one, including Burnett, really knows where any pitch is going.
Flores was released a moth ago….did they re-sign him?
AJ should consider getting on the juice. His career is on the verge of becoming a total joke so why not go down in flames.
fixing aj is impossible. the dope does not think he needs fixing. he is the last guy to realize he sucks.
there is this delusion going around that he has pitched into bad luck this year, that is bull.
8 quality starts in 25 outings is not bad luck it is just bad……..
aj should just admit he sucks and is a mental case and woos and retire…
save the yanks $36 mill and go back to the farm and live a quiet life…
Its a shame because this team is playing great baseball and yet this mope is getting beat just about everytime out and make a fool of himself doing it. His starts are insufferable. Its demoralizing to play behind him and he is the ultimate momentum stopper.
this inning is not looking good for Laffey
Just once I’d like to see the New York print guys really go after Girardi and Cashman about, what is now the obviously indefensible decision to keep dragging AJ out there. We know the YES lackeys don’t dare criticise Joe/Brian for lacking the stones to take him out of the rotation – note that the “hard-working”Jack Curry last posted on August 10 that Burnett should go. Silence since then. The Boss would have pulled the trigger two starts ago.
Come on Cashman. End this farce. AJ for Zambrano and pay the Cubs to match the contracts up. Even if Carlos bombs (maybe he’s serviceable as he is a Larry Rothschild protege) he’s gone after one year. Two more years of this spineless, brainless and apparently uncaring “competitor” is intolerable.
not only is aj bad but from the posts it sounds like he is disrespectful to girardi. girardi has held his fire on that loser. imagin if aj was on the whitesux or the cardinals..
and that is the thank you aj gives girardi……what a j ass…
It’s time to get some of the regulars out of the game so they can get a rest.
How do you explain a guy who is averaging less hits per innings pitched having and era of 4.96?? Oh yeah, give up 23 bombs and walking 70 batters will inflate things in a hurry.
wtf!! i guess burnett didn’t spot the twins enough runs
“I don’t think he’s bad, but he’s very mediocre”
After tonight, Burnett will have one of the 2 or 3 worst ERAs in the entire AL (among qualifiers).
Mediocre has passed him by about 3 starts ago.
In this day and age, where like 60 starters have ERAs under 4, you have to suck really badly to pitch to a 5 ERA through 25+ starts. He fell off the deck in August last year too and never recovered.
stuart a…dude are you for real man. you come off like a nutcase
18 wild pitches will also not help….
4 train thanks. again do not like it don’t comment..
Rick Petersen was on WFAN talking about AJ yesterday and said he’s watched AJ and his problem is mechanical.
A righty pitcher at the point of “foot touch” should have his palm facing the SS. AJ’s palm is past facing the SS long before it should and he’s palm down at foot impact.
last year aj had the worst year a yankee starter has had in forever.
this is not a anamoly but reality.
aj is horrible. hideki irabu was better. denny naegle and ed whitson were about the same as aj.
but hey he has “good stuff”
Laffey is a joke.
Laffey looks awful now. But at this point the game is over so who cares.
Wonder if Cashman/Girardi will smoke from the ‘objective pipe’ after this game.
We will see if the Yanks are indeed, all about winning.
Laffey is not long for this team. Stuff isn’t really ML caliber.
Laffey honeymoon over already????
Nick,
I think it never started, lol
if the yanks were all about winning aj would have been gone already. again they do not even pitch him against the redsux .. so ther#2 starter ask mike kay about that does not even pitch against the red sux…..
Everyone needs to chill about the team. We’re playing great baseball. This is what I mean about Burnett, he makes everything feel horrible despite the fact that we have played outstanding ball since the ASB. Can’t let one guy who is totally tapioca wipe out the good vibes that should be surrounding this team.
I guess Laffey is a 1 inning kind of dude.
Surprised that dude didn’t run
Wasn’t 39 the number used by Kennedy??
Time to cut AJ loose. Irrevocable waivers. Everyone knows he should be nowhere near the rotation. Or the bullpen for that matter. Just get him out of NY.
guess we know the real reason why the didn’t bother to activate a-rod today, why bother with AJ starting.
hey the crappy royals are giving us some hope…for now at least
This game is just embarrassing.
KC AHEAD OF BOSTON 7-4 NOW
If AJ gets his next start in order, the starting 8 should stay on the bench.
I guess Laughy isn’t going to be useful.
only 2 starters in the AL now have worse ERAs than Burnett…. Penny and Porcello.
actually, to make it worse, only 5 starters in all of baseball have higher ERAs than Burnett… Brad Penny, Rick Porcello, JoJo Reyes, Bronson Arroyo, and Jason Hammel.
Another good pickup for Brian Cashman.
Just forfeit the game. Save everyone a big headache.
The Royals are now winning 7-4. Nice…
In laffey’s defense, he is a lefty specialists, and he is in his 2nd inning of work.
Is Noesi dead or something?
This game is just out of hand now. AJ basically gave this away early. Say hello to 2nd place again. This should be his last game for awhile. Bench him and make him earn his spot. This free pass crap has got to stop or i’ll lose my respect for upper management.
laffey cost zero and if he stinks they will let him go therefore it is irrelevant.
aj is another story…
Hey…Laffey was worth a shot. Looks like his stay in NY will be short.
only 2 starters in the AL now have worse ERAs than Burnett…. Penny and Porcello.
actually, to make it worse, only 5 starters in all of baseball have higher ERAs than Burnett… Brad Penny, Rick Porcello, JoJo Reyes, Bronson Arroyo, and Jason Hammel.
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John Lackey and Liriano (though right now Liriano may be slightly below)
Man I just saw the Sox score on NESN not too long ago and it was 3-1 Sox. So far AJ’s off the hook..lol
Wakefield will get that 200th win on his 50th birthday. U heard it here first.
I appreciate the real matt albers finally standing up.
laffey is not a lefty specialist. he is actually equally avg against both lefties and righties. he is a mop up guy at best, making mop up guy money. aj is making stud money and he is 1 of the worst pitchers in baseball period.
Nice way to get out of trouble
It’s frustrating to see 3 Yankee pitchers and not one able to stop this Twins offense.
laffey is not a lefty specialist. he is actually equally avg against both lefties and righties. he is a mop up guy at best, making mop up guy money. aj is making stud money and he is 1 of the worst pitchers in baseball period.
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.250 vs lefties and .300 vs. righties is not equal.
I’d love to see a video of a meeting between stuart and ralph, that would be epic…
“John Lackey and Liriano (though right now Liriano may be slightly below)”
For some reason, neither of them qualify, at least not yet.
250 against lefties is not exactly shut down lefty specialist.
pedro feliciano probably does not have to worry about laffey taking his reps away.
my point is laffey is a has been mop up guy, he is not a lefty specialist at all.
That Sofia Vargara Xfinity commercial makes this game so much more tolerable.
The Yanks have to put AJ in the bullpen and Cashman can use the “we are trying to clear his head and let him work on things” bs. This is the new york yankees not the royals who cares how much he is making if he stinks this bad. He isn’t one of the 5 best starters and won’t be for the next 2 years.
MG August 20th, 2011 at 9:18 pm
I’d love to see a video of a meeting between stuart and ralph, that would be epic…
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LOL!!!!, very good one
thank you tim wakefield. you are almost as bad as burnett but cost only a fraction of our nutjob
Lackey doesn’t qualify because he is a red sock and hence he is totally money. Its called the gammon rule for qualification.
Burnett has great stuff. He just needs to learn how to control it
Look how long it took Randy Johnson to harness his control….
BX 33 – that’s a joke, right?
BX33 August 20th, 2011 at 9:23 pm
Burnett has great stuff. He just needs to learn how to control it
Look how long it took Randy Johnson to harness his control….
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AJ Burnett is that you?
Wow AJ….not great.
Its time.for AJ to go to the pen…..they’ve given him nearly 2 seasons now and its just not happening and he’s starting to block guys that are both better and younger than him.
AJs two problems are 1) inability to repeat his delivery 2) diminishing stuff. He’s always had the first problem but not the decreased velocity is.exposig it much more.
In the pen he wouldn’t have to hold his delivery together nearly as long and his stuff coukd play up a bit and give him more margin for error.
There are actually pitchers that throw less strikes than AJ? Amazing…
blake, Burnett had absolutely no idea where the ball was going tonight
the Twins feeds shows the K zone (or whatever it’s called) for the entire AB, the pitches for most of the batters varied from a foot outside the zone inside to a foot inside…
Call me crazy but I think burnett could be good in the pen. Maybe gets a few mph on the fastball and can focus on being a 2 pitch pitcher using the CB exclusively as an out pitch.
I love AJ, he helped make me a fast $ 200 tonight by getting shelled. Over 9 runs no sweat.
Porcello, Burnett, and Lackey all have god awful ERA’s….and all three were supposed to be the #3 starters for their playoff contending teams this year. Interesting.
Btw, isn’t Porcello the Tigers’ version of Hughes/Joba? He was considered a young phenom and had one good year before basically falling off a cliff.
I think the Aaron Laffey era is coming to a very abrupt ending when Arod is activated.
Using Laffey for 50 pitches tonight makes me think he will be the one going to AAA tomorrow and not Noesi.
die your hair, get more tatoos, wear more chains
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Don’t forget his earrings.
Tonight might not be a total waste after all. If the Sox lose, we still keep our lead in the division, so short term we remain the same. And now Burnett is one step closer to being pushed out of the rotation, so long term we can get better.
Hey Vineyard, I left you a message above, at 8:20.
Here’s the link:
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/201.....nt-1942063
MG,
Yea….some nights he has control but very rarley does he have command. Tonight he had neither and that’s been more and.more recently. They should try and transition him to short relief…..
Lackey, Porcello, etc. are in their team’s rotation because they don’t have anyone better.
We have 2 guys who are significantly better pitchers than AJ.
The stuff argument got old a long time ago. Hitters have been tattooing him for 2 years now. His Ks are down, his walks are up, his HRs are up, and he has averaged like 20 wild pitches a year.
A 94 MPH fastball right down the middle with no consistent breaking ball scares nobody. There are literally hundreds of those kinds of pitchers scattered throughout A ball.
blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
MG,
Yea….some nights he has control but very rarley does he have command. Tonight he had neither and that’s been more and.more recently. They should try and transition him to short relief…..
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maybe they can transition him to the Ken Holtzman bullpen seat, the same one Billy Martin used for Holtzman for half a season back in the 70′s. I think it had crazy glue on it and prevents pitchers from even warming up let alone pitch.
Whats Liriano pitch count??
If you count Noesi (and i am), we have 6 pitchers on the roster who would be better off starting than AJ, and then there is Warren in AAA. 7 options better than Burnett right now.
luis ARE you are stand up comic? because if you are please do not give up your day job.It is so easy to type crap about people from a keyboard.If you have something you wish to discuss with me to my face please by all means lmk
Something scary – Burnett had a lower ERA at this time last year than he does this year.
So much for him being such an improved pitcher. The 2010 and 2011 seasons played out differently overall, (AJ started hot for 2 months in 2010, had a bad June, decent July, and sucked in August/Sept….. and 2011 Burnett was mediocre for 4 months and has now fallen off the cliff) but the results have now added up to a similar total.
luis id be more then glad
MG,
I would eat salary and transition him to another team this winter……
And the offense disappears against a sucky pitcher. Of course.
Did Andrew Jones have a 5 year old design his tats?
blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:39 pm
MG,
I would eat salary and transition him to another team this winter……
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so would I, throw $20M in for the next two years and ship him to the Dodgers or another NL team.
That’s less than they threw away for Igawa and would eliminate a tough situation for everyone.
It’s amazing that Martin is still catching. It’s 9-1 can we finally give the guys a break. Come on Girardi…
A.J. Burnett’s ERA on August 20, 2010: 4.80. His ERA on August 20, 2011: 4.96.
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Not good news. He was better this time last year than he is now?
Thank you KC.
I wonder if some reporter will ask Cashman if he had some reality pipe before speaking with the media
Captain, Martin isnt catching anymore.
Ralphfl,
No i’m not, but you have to agree what MG wrote is funny….I think i already posted what i thought you should do…..besides if i offended you, please accept my apologies
If this organization does not have the balls to put this PU$$Y Burnett in the bullpen, then they must suspend him for his actions showing up his manager. This is an utter disgrace.
Posada trying to kill Wade?
is gameday right, r martin at second base?
Yes, Martin at 2nd.
Liriano is hardly a sucky pitcher…inconsistent maybe, unhealthy….but not sucky.
Anyways, it’s hard for an offense to get motivated when your starter spits them seven runs in 1.2 innings.
Just a friendly reminder for the 3 and a half fools who still support AJ. He was acoording to stats the worst starting pitcher in the history of the New York Yankees last year.
Signed.. The guy who got in a fight with AJ in Tampa 3 weeks ago on TV.
Keeping Burnett in the rotation has to be an order from above.
With the way he has disrespected Girardi his last few times when he came to the mound to get him, combined with his bullpen-killing performances, Joe has to have no backbone to continue to cover up for this clown.
Cash needs to get over what some writers will say about him and make the right move to help the team WIN. Does Cash think running AJ out there start after start to get hammered will make him look better in the eyes of the public? More likely, people will kill Cashman for putting his own personal PR battle above winning ballgames. AJ is a sunk cost. All non-Yankee die hards consider him a bust of a signing, Game 2 2009 aside, and it is another black mark against Cashman’s pitching acquisitions (again, the FA circumstances aside).
Don’t know who Cashman is trying to convince here. His detractors and the media have already made up their mind about AJ and the Cashman fans will support him regardless of what he says/does and will rationalize any move he makes. So it is tough to see Cashman’s end game here…
Swisher is gonna wind up having a pretty good year.
Nunez doesn’t get cheated on his swings, for sure. He could blossom into a very good player. IMO
Hopefully Romine and Montero come up in Sept.
check the ERA’S for the Twins ! Only one good one !
I think i’d rather see Carol Burnett pitch five days from now…
The upsetting thing about Burnett is you have an idea what’s going to happen before the game starts. I have to wonder what Girardi and Rothschild are thinking. Do these professionals who watch his side sessions and bullpens have “hope”. Or not.
NYY fan in NH August 20th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
I think i’d rather see Carol Burnett pitch five days from now.
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How’s her hook?
Looks like I picked a good night to go out to dinner with family and friends…..
Nothing else to say about AJ. Although, I’m sure Joe and Cash will have lots to say to him. And, as randy suggested, a trip to the bullpen will speak volumes more than words.
I wouldn’t hold tonight’s performance against Laffey. The guy was just told that he’s being traded, pack up your life – like now – and got to another city immediatley, and perform your best, like nothing’s happened.
# NYY fan in NH August 20th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
I think i’d rather see Carol Burnett pitch five days from now…
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Or Smiley ! ( and he’s dead )
Hey, the Twins have a sucky A. Burnett too!
PeteAbe
I’m telling you. Lackey vs. Burnett in Game 4 of the ALCS is going to be epic. Fox will chart balls, strikes and curses
WCYF,
I think it has to do more with the FO, than what Girardi or Rothschild think about AJ
Boston blew a 4-1 lead to KC?
Joe,
If you’re going to take a night off then AJ starts are the one to do it on….I basically never watch live when he pitches anymore……I have to have the fast forward option to make it bearable.
# NYY fan in NH August 20th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
I think i’d rather see Carol Burnett pitch five days from now…
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Or Smiley ! ( and he’s dead )
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It’s a she. Lmao!!
Joe, I’m sure your dinner was better than the experience of watching Burnett stink it up tonight, it was as bad a performance as I’ve seen from a starting pitcher in a long time punctuated by him yelling, ‘that’s effing b*****t’ when he was pulled.
If Pete thinks Lackey is starting this hypothetical game 4…..who started game 3 for Boston? Wakefield? Miller? The ghost of Curt Schilling?
Wang vs. Halladay tomorrow morning.
Carol’s hook is quite the bender from what Tim Conway says.
Nick in SF August 20th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Wang vs. Halladay tomorrow morning.
I wouldn’t bet against Halladay, but probably has the more upside
All in all, AJ has to be pulled from the rotation. I am going to be severely pissed if they come up with more excuses for him. Adam Warren could do no worse than him at this point.
on another note, I’m amazed there hasn’t been a post about Andrew Brackman’s recent improvement, there was a story about him in the Post today.
Apparently he went back to his college delivery a couple of weeks ago and has been throwing in the mid-90′s with good control ever since.
NYY fan in NH August 20th, 2011 at 10:11 pm
At this pace, we’ll end up bringing Tatum O’neal of the bad news bears team to pich instead of AJ
I read that article on Brackman about his recent improvement in command, location with less BB. Glad he’s rebounding heading towards the end of the season.
Dinner was pretty good – prosciutto wrapped stuffed figs, and lasagna. Nice red to round it off. Canoli and amoretto for dessert.
You know, I can imagine that Joe Girardi has a temper all his own. I’m guessing here, but I don’t think he’s thrilled that the pitcher whom he’s given all sorts of leeway to this year and last rewards him by not only bombing for the umpeenth time (which, by the way, means Joe has to cobble together 7 1/3 innings from his bullpen; thank goodness for an off day Monday), but by mouthing off to him on the field.
It will be an interesting post game manager’s conference with the media. Inquiring minds want to know.
I just wish I trusted Cashman more. I do think Girardi would prefer to start Phil, but I still think Cashman doesn’t want to admit that he overpaid for AJ. I would never criticize the move as I think it had to be made at the time, but Cashman is so defensive about this particular signing that I think he will rationalize it as AJ never having been in the pen where as Phil has had success.
I remember that article on Brackman on how he changed his arm set before pitches.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....3odLyVxmLM
Is that Andy Capp pitching?
AJ’s outburst could be the best thing to happen to the Yankees.
I mean, he has made their decision a whole lot easier, hasn’t he?
Cash had better put his thinking cap on quick…
Betsy,
Hi, good to see you around, i think that they are going to make the changes needed to give the team the best chance to win….I think AJ pretty much exhausted his goodwill capital tonight, i think he is going to be out of the rotation
well at least I got my Jonesy homer again
Just an all around lousy game for NY. Pretty much conceded the game after the AJ incident. Luckily Boston blew a 4-1 game. Just glad Burnetts start is out of the way. Andrew Jones continues to hit the ball over the fence.
that is very interesting that Brackman is back in the mid 90′s again.
It ain’t over till is over…..Yogi Berra
But AJ, phony that he is, will play it off as will Cash and Joe.
They treat him like a china doll, which is a major part of the problem.
At least, they must skip his next turn, he deserves worse.
Hi Luis!
Yeah, that will probably happen, but I’ll have to see it to believe it.
I know what Joe will say tonight – but that’s fine because I don’t expect him to trash his player, no matter what goes on behind closed doors. The media will be in an uproar and Cashman will get all uptight about it.
Thank god that is over. I’m more shocked i watched it thinking they could come back.
Betsy – I think that scenario would be so out of the realm of reality that there’s no way it would go down. I certainly hope not.
the post game show on YES is must see TV tonight…
Thanks for the Brackman link.
1-9 August record for Burnett with a 7.62 ERA. Wow that couldn’t be any worse.
NEXT====>>>>>>Coverup
Went to a jazz club tonite – AJ games are ones to skip or fast forward – let’s see how Cash spins this one
No problem Tar! Need some positive feedback after this game tonight.
I think Garcia being on the DL makes this less complicated for Girardi and Cashman. If Burnett puts up another clunker or so/so start then they can’t run him out there. At least you could kind of say that he was being picked on. That’s not the case anymore. He’s been atrocious.
Binder Joe defending AJ in his post game remarks? What a patsy Binder Joe is (to put it politely).
AJ went back into the clubhouse to look at a pitch on video?
Sure, that’s why Binder Joe went to get him.
These people must think the rest of the world is as stupid as they are.