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Martin: “I feel like it’s April right now”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 20, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Russell Martin got his first big league call-up in 2006, and he hasn’t been back to minor leagues since. For a 28-year-old catcher, the guy has played a lot of big league games.

“I feel like it’s April right now,” he said. “Seriously. The way Joe’s been giving me rest, I’ve never had a year like this where I’ve been fully rested like I am now. I’ve got to give it up to him, because I’m not going to take days off. They’re going to have to give it to me.”

Martin opened the 2006 season in the minors, and he spent part of 2010 on the disabled list. That means he’s spent three full seasons in the big leagues. During those years, Martin caught 145, 149 and 137 games for the Dodgers. He’s carried a heavy workload, and he came to the Yankees with some concerns about his ability to remain both healthy and productive through a full season.

Right now it’s late August, and Martin’s pretty much what he’s been all season: A strong defensive catcher who’s ability to hit for power makes him a legitimate threat at the plate. He’s caught in 96 games, and Joe Girardi has been careful to give Martin regular days off to keep his knees and legs fresh.

“He’s a guy that sometimes appears to get stronger the more he plays,” Girardi said.

Martin’s not hitting for average, but the combination of his power with the bat, glove behind the plate , and relationship with the pitching staff have made him valuable beyond expectation. The key, as he explains it, has been staying healthy.

“Right now I’ve got zero problems,” Martin said. “When you’re feeling great, you expect to do well. Hopefully I can just keep feeling like this the rest of the way.”

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446 Responses to “Martin: “I feel like it’s April right now””

  1. CountryClub August 20th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    And the yanks don’t need to extend Martin. They control him for 2012. Very cool.

    It appears Hughes is finally maturing to the point that he realizes he has to throw all his pitches. Maybe the initial loss in velocity was a blessing in disguise. Fans have to have patience with young pitchers. This will be especially true over the next few years as the Yanks break in even more young starters.

  2. MG August 20th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    the Yankees, as a team play the game ‘right’ and have been like that consistently since 1994 (you have to give Showalter some credit for that).

    I almost never criticize a Yankees player because of the effort-you’ll never see a Yankee not hustle after a ball that gets past them like Alex Rios did when he misplayed a line drive a couple of weeks ago.

    As a fan, all you can ask is for the players to give their best efforts in every game-it’s not the easiest thing to do given the number of games and the travel.

    You have to accept that even the best baseball teams lose 60-70 times a season, it’s not a video game. Losses like the one in KC the other night are tough but you have to walk away knowing they had their chances to win and while it didn’t work out it will the next time.

  3. MG August 20th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:03 am
    MG,

    I always have thought that if it was.possible.for Derek to find a way to be productive then he would……as he ages he’s going to have to make adjustments …….and he will probably struggle again at some point and have to adjust again……but I trust that he’ll get it done.
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    blake, I agree completely and also believe that once he realizes he can no longer play at the highest level he’ll walk away-he’s too proud to do anything else.

  4. Yankee Trader August 20th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Until later. Have a great day. Interesting pitching matchup today between underachievers Liriano and Burnett.

    Also it’ll be interesting to see if Ubaldo Jimenez can beat the Tigers tomorrow.

  5. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Tendering Martin a contract for next year should be a no brainer if he stays healthy …..he’s a perfect guy to help ease Montero in

  6. PacoDooley August 20th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Is Martin a legit Gold Glove candidate? With Mauer missing loads of time, who else is a legit GG candidate? I don’t know the catchers in the AL that well.

  7. Tar August 20th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    “Tendering Martin a contract for next year should be a no brainer if he stays healthy ”

    No doubt. Even if the Yankees didn’t want him next year, why wouldn’t they tender then trade him. Same goes for Swish.

  8. CountryClub August 20th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Martin has to be a GG candidate. I’m not sure who he would be competing against though. My guess is that Mauer still gets plenty of votes.

  9. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    Tar,

    Exactly. Montero isn’t going to be ready to catch every day next year regardless so bring Martin back to be the primary guy and then go from there. I think Martin can be a better hitter than he’s shown this year.

  10. yankee21 August 20th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    The Yankees look very tough right now. Their offense is clicking, the BP continues to excel and they have Hughes rounding into form. This is a dangerous team.

    I was dead wrong about Jeter, I thought he was toast, and I am real glad to have been mistaken. If he can hit .280-.290 with authority, the Yankees have themselves a decent lead-off hitter again.

    Gardner has been a little tentative on the bases recently, it seems as though if he gets thrown out or picked off it just takes away his aggressiveness and he becomes a spectator at first.

    Martin is a solid catcher but they need to find space for Montero as soon as practical. I like that Cervelli has had somewhat of a bounce back year, at least offensively. He is prime trade bait over the winter.

  11. Tar August 20th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    Blake

    Just like when Giradi mentored a future HOF catcher, Martin can do the same. I am just real surprised it didn’t start (yet :D ) this year.

  12. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    I would think Wieters and Avila would be in contention. Wieters has thrown out over 40% …and is a good defender.

  13. pat August 20th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    Girardi does seem to have a healthy appreciation of the marathon of 162 games and isn’t afraid to force players to give their bodies a break from it. Maybe because he’s not that far removed from playing days and can remember the grind more clearly?

    He appears to be developing into a players manager that guys enjoy playing for because he has their best interest at heart.

  14. MaineYankee August 20th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:10 am
    Tendering Martin a contract for next year should be a no brainer if he stays healthy …..he’s a perfect guy to help ease Montero in

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    I think that was the purpose of getting Martin.

    He may be weak as an offensive catcher but as a bridge to the next great Yankee catcher he is a good choice.

    This team has enough offense to be able to deal with the lack of it from the catcher.

    I get it that with a good offensive catcher it lengthens the line up but I don’t see any team at the top that doesn’t have some weak links.

  15. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Pat,

    That’s probably Girardi’s best quality as a manager…..seeing the big picture …..especially with a talented and playoff bound team like the Yankees.

  16. Mell August 20th, 2011 at 9:25 am

    Martin has to be a GG candidate. I’m not sure who he would be competing against though

    ================================

    Weiters should be the runaway winner.

  17. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    Maine,

    Agreed.

  18. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    Mell,

    Yea I agree on Wieters…he’s been a disappointment win the bat so far….not that he’s been terrible but when you’re billed as “Mauer with Power”…..but he’s a really good defender.

  19. mick August 20th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    THE PLAY NICE ERA HAS BEGUN

  20. Mell August 20th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Girardi does seem to have a healthy appreciation of the marathon of 162 games and isn’t afraid to force players to give their bodies a break from it. Maybe because he’s not that far removed from playing days and can remember the grind more clearly?

    =====================================

    Part of the adapting that any manager has had to make in the testing era, IMO. Especially with the older players. Girardi’s done well with it, often using the DH as a mode to rest guys.

  21. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    The amphetamine ban is affecting players more than the PED ban.

  22. Wang IS Taiwan August 20th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    What is Swish on? A case of Red Bull?

  23. Tar August 20th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    “Girardi does seem to have a healthy appreciation of the marathon of 162 games and isn’t afraid to force players to give their bodies a break from it.”

    Pat

    I do agree Joe looks at the year as a marathon.

    But, going into the year I thought an older Jeter and even Cano should get more rest than in previous years. I Had pre-season debates with LGY and Jerk over Cano and Jeter playing time ( I think they were more right than I was).

    But pre Jeter-injury I just don’t think he rested those guys enough.

    Now maybe his strategy was to increase their rest as the year ( and post-season lead) went on. But I don’t think so. The Jeter injury certainly gave his body a nice little break, so things have worked out anyway.

    But to this point, I am not sure I can agree with Giradi is good at forcing players to take breaks.

  24. Mell August 20th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    The amphetamine ban is affecting players more than the PED ban

    ===============================

    Yeah probably. Though the downturn is offense in general is noteworthy. Almost certainly more than one reason for it, but disappearing PED’s could be one of them.

  25. upstate kate August 20th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    In the post game Kenny (I think it was him) made the point that 8 of Martin’s HRs have come after a day off.

  26. pat August 20th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    This sounds like a guy who plans to be back with the Yankees next year if the Steinbrenners will have him and the contract is reasonable.

    “…my interest is to return to the Yankees,” Cashman said. “That’s all for another day. I would like to stay. Right now, that’s not my decision. I don’t sweat it and I don’t worry about it.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....r_cub.html

  27. MaineYankee August 20th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:35 am
    The amphetamine ban is affecting players more than the PED ban
    —————————————————————————

    You see it in the fact that teams seem to give players days off more than in the past.

  28. MaineYankee August 20th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    pat August 20th, 2011 at 9:41 am
    This sounds like a guy who plans to be back with the Yankees next year if the Steinbrenners will have him and the contract is reasonable.

    “…my interest is to return to the Yankees,” Cashman said. “That’s all for another day. I would like to stay. Right now, that’s not my decision. I don’t sweat it and I don’t worry about it.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo…..r_cub.html

    ——————————————————————————

    I would think with the work he has put into rebuilding the Mil he would like to stay and reap the rewards of that.

  29. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    Mell,

    Yea there are multiple factors…..including that there a a lot of good pitchers right now…..still a lot of bad ones as well…..but a lot of good ones too.

  30. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Cashman isn’t going anywhere IMO.

  31. Crawdaddy August 20th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    “The amphetamine ban is affecting players more than the PED ban.”

    IMO, I agree with that and it affects the position players that play everyday versus pitchers which do get many more days off.

  32. Mell August 20th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    I would think with the work he has put into rebuilding the Mil he would like to stay and reap the rewards of that.
    ==================================

    I think in general he’d prefer sticking, but I wouldn’t rule out the Cubs. Being the guy responsible for wiping away 105 years of failure might have some appeal to a guy with an ego like Cashman’s.

  33. Crawdaddy August 20th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    “Cashman isn’t going anywhere IMO.”

    I hope he solidfies his position even moreso in his next contract so he has more input in allocating funds for the various baseball operation budgets.

  34. pat August 20th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Tar

    I think resting guys is like a triage situation sometimes and the plan is to rest everyone but then someone gets hurt and they take priority over others.

  35. Crawdaddy August 20th, 2011 at 9:52 am

    “I think in general he’d prefer sticking, but I wouldn’t rule out the Cubs. Being the guy responsible for wiping away 105 years of failure might have some appeal to a guy with an ego like Cashman’s.”

    I’m hoping the need to remain part of the Yankee family is more of a pull than uprooting his family to Illinois.

  36. blake August 20th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    Crawdaddy,

    That’s how I see it as well…..I think he stays unless behind the scenes he feels like he’s losing decision making control

  37. joeman August 20th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Martin should get rest..could be a nice player in the playoffs

  38. joeman August 20th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    last 39 …a 24-15 would be a good # and get them to 100 W’s which is nice to look at

  39. Crawdaddy August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Cashman I can’t believe you released Buddy Carlyle.;)

  40. Mell August 20th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    I’m hoping the need to remain part of the Yankee family is more of a pull than uprooting his family to Illinois

    ===========================

    I seriously doubt that remaining part of the Yankee family comes anywhere close to being a need, but it may be something he wishes to remain part of. Might be that he’s interested in a new challenge. I’m just spitballin’ here. I think he’ll likely stay, but given the appropriate latitude and money, I can see that Cubs situation having some allure.

  41. Crawdaddy August 20th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Mell,

    I think the Yankees work out a deal with him before the Cubs can even get a chance at him.

  42. blake August 20th, 2011 at 10:04 am

    are the Cubs a challenge or a suicide mission?

  43. MaineYankee August 20th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    blake August 20th, 2011 at 10:04 am
    are the Cubs a challenge or a suicide mission?

    ——————————————————————

    I choose the latter. :D

  44. LGY August 20th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Martin is on pace to start 122 games. Watching him this season he does not seem like a catcher who can handle playing 120+.

    Posada was so special in part because he could maintain a high level of play while starting 120 or 130+ games at catcher. However, very few catchers are not built like Posada.

    Martin needs to play less down the stretch. He really should not exceed 110 and next year there is no reason for him to start more than 100 as long as Montero is still in the organization.

  45. LGY August 20th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    +are built+

  46. Shame Spencer August 20th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    I don’t see Cash going anywhere. But I’m also one of the few that doesnt think he’s lost all that much control of the organization’s direction in the past couple years. I think thats a storyline thats way overblown. Do I think Levine and Hank meddle? Sure. But I don’t think either gets the final say on matters. If they did something tells me Phil would be pitching for another team and we wouldve traded the farm for Wandy Rodriguez or someone equally atrocious.

  47. JM August 20th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    The Cubs are a long way from being competitive. I think Cash stays with the Yanks.

  48. LGY August 20th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Job security is the hardest thing to come by in professional sports.

    Cashman has that in New York even when the day comes that he no longer wants to be a GM.

    He would be very foolish to leave.

  49. Bo knows August 20th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    The irony is that the Yankees have morphed into the Sox. They’ve got themselves a Varitek. Martin is 28, so he should be at his peak. So he’s in play for at least another five years. Offensively he’s weak. He wants to play every day so Girardi would have to push to cut back his playing time to the hundred games a year. He’s established a very strong rapport with the pitchers so he’s in a strong position. He considers himself as a starter and he’s too young to where you could relegate him to a backup. There you have it – Varitek ll.

  50. 86w183 August 20th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Amphetamines ARE performance enhancing drugs.

    They don’t give you power, they give you artificial energy for 3-4 hours.

    It amazes me that those who want to label steroid users as “cheaters” choose to ignore the fact that virtually every position player for 50+ years illegally used amphetamines to get through cross country flights, long train trips, day games after night games and more.

    The amphetamine ban has indeed led to more players needing more frequent rest. And it’s a factor in 35+ aged players seeing their productivity diminish much more quickly.

  51. blake August 20th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    also there was probably a significantly higher percentage of players taking greenies than there was taking steroids or HGH.

    If Martin would accept a part time or half time catching role long term I think that would be great…..

  52. 86w183 August 20th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    I would expect to see Martin about 60-70 percent of the time next season with Montero handling the rest. They could even consider giving Montero 2 starters as his primary guys and Martin 3 of them.

  53. blake August 20th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    ampetamines are more performance enablers though than enhancers. They enable you to play closer you your best ….they don’t actually enhance what your best is like other PED’s. I think its’ fine they they banned them…..I just think for historical purposes it should be considered that the “clean players” from the past likely wouldn’t technically be considered clean under the current guidelines. The current baseball player SHOULD be the “cleanest” in the history of the game.

  54. upstate kate August 20th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    coffee…lots of coffee…works for me!

  55. blake August 20th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    kate….yes coffee. The original pick me up.

  56. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    good morning, saturday morning people ! My biggest concern going forward is to have Jesus, Manny and Betances establish themselves a bit THIS year to help prevent any of them being traded over the winter. I really don’t think we need CJ Wilson or another pitcher next year. Manny and Betances will be fighting Noasi for the last spot or spots in the rotation. No reason NOT to resign either Colon or Garcia for another year. But, really is another good time to be a Yankee fan :)

  57. blake August 20th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    LGY,

    I agree….GM of the Yankees is a tough job but it’s also a great one. The farm system he’s been building is just now starting to pay dividends and it should even moreso in the coming years. To me, the only thing that might would cause him to leave would be if he senses that ownership (and Levine) are going to start sticking their noses into the decision making pot more often….that’s just from me looking at it from a distance…..that may not even be an issue.

  58. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Manny and Betances will not start 2012 with the Yankees. They do need a number two and they will get one this winter.

  59. blake August 20th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    I don’t think we need CJ Wilson either unless the price makes sense…..like 3 years or so. I expect him to re-sign with Texas.

  60. Crawdaddy August 20th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    The Yankees will try to get a #2 starter, but I’m not sure it will be this winter.

  61. 86w183 August 20th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    blake that’s just rationalizing. Enhancing or enabling is still artificially improved performances.

    The baseball world has its undies in a bunch of the power distortions for the steroid era but shrugs its collective shoulders about the drug enhanced hit, stolen bases and other stats due to amphetamines.

    it’s hypocrisy plain and simple

  62. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    The target for Manny needs to be 2013….probably with Betances also. Let them throw and full season in AAA next year and build their innings up the right way…..

    Everyone said they’d get their #2 starter last winter, then they said they’d get him this summer…..now it’s this winter…..but there just hasn’t been anything out there worth parting with the top prospects for and I really don’t see that changing…..it could of course but unless one of those guys shakes loose….I would expect them to probably bring back Garcia and rely on their youth again in 2012….knowing that the big 2013 FA class is right around the corner

  63. MaineYankee August 20th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    A quote from Extra Bases.

    “You get the feeling sometimes that the catchers can’t decide whether to hug Aceves or strangle him. He literally changes his delivery on a whim and throws pitches nobody is expecting.”
    ————————————————————————————————-

    I’m not sure if Ace was as independant with the Yankees as he seems to have been with the RS.

    I think this isn’t the only time I’ve read where he’s been stubborn.

    If he was, that may be why he wasn’t signed.

  64. LGY August 20th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    The Yankees will have their #2 next season in Phil Hughes.

  65. upstate kate August 20th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    I am hoping the Phil is the #2 starter next year

  66. upstate kate August 20th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    jinx LGY :)

  67. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    86,

    Amphetamines won’t allow a guy to hit 70 homers…..there is a difference but you’re absolutely right about baseball’s hypocrisy over the situation.

  68. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    lgy,

    true dat.

  69. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    COFFEE SHOULD BE BANNED FROM BASEBALL.

  70. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I hope they dump Burnett on a National League team, if anyone wants him, they could afford to eat some of his salary.

  71. Joe from Long Island August 20th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    Good morning – a chance to have a real discussion/dialog with real folks, without a hidden agenda of personality crises and drama….

    1. I agree with others here who believe that Cash isn’t going anywhere except the bank when he gets he renewal. He has played a role in generating more profits for the Steinbrenner family. The team’s continuous success; building the farm system so that they don’t have to rely on high-priced FAs (Brett Gardner; David Robertson; Phil Hughes; soon Montero) and smart trades (Swisher, Granderson) and bargain FAs (Garcia, Colon, Ayala Martin). What’s not to like?

    I think the Soriano affair was remarkable for the acknowledgement of disagreement in thought, but no rancor, at least not openly.

    I think he’s back with a nice raise.

    2. Agreed, also, that lack of amphetamines have changed the landscape. I don’t think there’s any question of that. They were likely more widely used, over a longer period of time, than anabolic steroids.

  72. upstate kate August 20th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    I am off, but I have to say it has been very pleasant here this am, and good to see some of the long time posters.
    In the words of Michael Kay “have a good one everybody”

  73. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    life is a series of……fugget m. kay.

  74. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    I’ll make one comment just because I have to, lol.

    Phil was GREAT last night. The HR at the time was annoying, but I thought he looked very good overall in the first, so I wasn’t upset. I woke up this morning, put on WFAN, heard Malusis and some callers say they weren’t impressed, and shut the radio off. Since then this AM, I’ve read people express concern that he only had 2 Ks and 3 walks, with only 2 swinging strikes. Who cares when he mixed his pitches so well? His FB is clearly not at his best as CB described last night, but it’s not THAT far off and he really just needs to keep pitching – that’s the only way the life on his FB will return. I get that you want more swings and misses against better teams, but the most encouraging part of Hughes’ upsurge is his use of secondary pitches.
    That’s it.

  75. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I’ll make one comment just because I have to,
    =================
    who said you had to?

  76. MG August 20th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Betsy, Phil was dominant last night, anyone who feels the need to complain and find fault has no clue about baseball, period.

  77. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    betsy cannot reply, her one comment is up.

  78. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Mick, you got what you wanted – me off the blog, so why not throw a party and celebrate?

  79. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    betsy, hi how ya been, never wanted you off, enjoy the rapport we have .

  80. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    i bet we can get along if you tried.

  81. LockDown August 20th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Nice win last night. Thoroughly enjoyable with Hughes & the offense. Love seeing Martin power it up. Martin needs more days off and if he can give us anything close to what he did last night, he would be that much more important in the post season.

    Glad we didn’t sell the farm for Ubaldo. Maybe he would have been great for the yanks, but the cost of losing Montero and at least one of Betances/Nova/Hughes wasn’t worth it. Cashman has done a great job by not doing anything. ;)

    I still feel that to beat the redsox in the playoffs, we’ll need to use all the pitching we have and that contrary to popular opinion, having 6 SPs is a plus and not a negative. For me the key is Colon.

    I could see 2 automatic wins with SP “X” going all out for 5 innings with Colon finishing the last 4 and not having to go to So-Ro-Mo. Unfortunately, he’s running out of steam. He used to go deep, but with each game he struggles to finish 5 innings. If this continues he may be dead by the post :(

    Would like to save Colon and not use him all up because I think he’s that valuable. Once Garcia comes back, CC needs to go on a 5man with the rest rotating a psuedo 6man where Colon gets skipped every other turn to fuel his stem cells. He pitches better with rest. Some have said that maybe the league has caught up to him. idk if this is the case, but he’s approaching 100 pitches by the 5th and looks worn on the mound.

  82. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    after all this is the PLAY NICE ERA we are living in…

  83. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    MG, I know, lol. No one is ever happy with any pitcher unless he walks none and strikes out double digits. Phil is still recovering from his arm issues which some might want to remember. In any case, unless Cashman is sittign on his brain, you can’t put Phil in the pen – that time has passed (unless he’s still being judged on a start to start basis).

  84. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    I think people are overreacting to Colon’s struggles – every pitcher goes through a slump, even the greatest HOFers. He probably could use some extra rest, but to suggest (as the News did) that he should be pulled from the rotation is ridiculous.

  85. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Lays potato chips.

  86. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Why oh why betsy would cash put phil in the pen?
    why do you say those crazy things?

  87. MG August 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Betsy, congratulations on joining the ‘Phil in the Yankees rotation’ club, there was absolutely no reason to send him to SWB to start when you could see a month ago he was going to be fine and just needed to continue strengthening his arm and shoulder.

    He’s probably 90-95% of the way there and was throwing darts on the black last night for 8 innings, other than the HR (I don’t know how the guy hit it out, it was up and in) not a single pitch was squared up. He just dominated Mauer, something that’s really impressive even if Mauer is having a very off year.

  88. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    Mick play nice. Find your zen.

  89. Kelvin August 20th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    For what its worth I see Garcia as a long man. The other starters won’t go to the pen.

  90. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    wcyf

    as long as betsy ignores me i will know no peace…

  91. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Some of us were right about Hughes. Some of us were wrong. ;)

  92. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    The name of the game is getting outs…..not getting swings and misses……swings and misses are a nice positive sign…..but so is inducing weak contact which Hughes did a lot last night.

    After all this wasn’t an isolated event…..it was his 4th solid start in a row and he’s struck out more in others.

  93. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    I think you have been very nice Mick. The Emperor of Iowa would be proud of you.

  94. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    MG, the only reason why I wanted Phil in AAA was because I didn’t want him in the pen and it appeared to me like the Yankees were going to do that. For me, although I’ve been skeptical of him, I’ve always thought it was of prime importance to keep Phil starting. I’ve been wondering why Cashman seems more invested in AJ than in a pitcher he’s developed – I get that he’s been frustrated by Phil, but after all, he was injured – and if the injury had anything to do with the huge innings jump from 2009 to 2010, well that’s on the Yankees, isn’t it? They are the ones who chose to put him in the pen in 2009 – and it worked, but it’s still a move that was made with an eye on the present and not the future.

  95. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Mick, you got what you wanted – me off the blog,
    ===============================
    once again your opinion holds no weight as you have posted twice since…

  96. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    make that thrice…

  97. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Blake, yes – weak contact. Even then, I’ve seen comments along the lines of he was lucky. This is the same stuff we saw early last year when he was dominating. I think a pitcher can control the type of contact hitters make off of them – maybe not all the time, but to a large extent. I hate to ascribe any pitcher’s good performance to luck, but unless that pitcher has a lot of strikeouts that’s what most people seem to do.

  98. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Betsy and Mick: Please play nice

  99. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    did someone use the term mind numbing the other day?

  100. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    DAD how are ya?
    Make nice and show betty the way…

  101. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Seriously, what the hell is your problem? People here certainly have a lot of patience for you. It’s not even noon on a Saturday and you can’t even be civil. You can’t even ignore me – you really need to see a therapist. You talking about how the blog is better or worse off because of certain posters is a joke because you are a major contributor to the trash talk. Every time I post, you have to respond in an insulting way……ALL the time. Don’t go pretending your **** don’t stink because it does.

  102. LGY August 20th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Some of us were right about Hughes. Some of us were wrong

    ——

    It’s unfortunate now that Phil is rounding back into form you see him making only enough progress to be a 3 or 4 starter next season.

    You shouldn’t be such a negative nelly.

  103. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Dad, give me a break – don’t tell me to play nice when I didn’t start this crap.

  104. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    who is betty speaking to?

  105. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    the blog needs to know…

  106. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    In the words of the infamous betty:

    Blow off scumbag

  107. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    LGY, ah…….. I would tell him he should look in the mirror when he makes those comments, but that wouldn’t be fair to the mirror as it would crack immediately.

  108. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Betsy and Mick: You two are monopolizing the blog with your in-fighting. It is not fun for the rest of us. Please play nice

  109. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    I guess she was speaking to MG….nevermind.

  110. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    NO freaking way, DadinIowa…………I don’t give a rat’s patootie what you think. I can’t even make one post without being attacked – I don’t need to explain this or anything to you.

  111. LockDown August 20th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Betsy,

    I think Cashman is very interested in Phil’s development, but he’s also interested in getting AJ going. I think people mistake an interest in one for a lack of interest in the other. I think he’s vested in BOTH. AJ for the interim and Phil for the long distance. The yankees NEED to get BOTH going for the best of the team over the next couple of years. Until people understand that, they’ll realize there’s no competition between the 2.

    What he is not vested in is Garcia and Colon because there’s no guarantee that either will be here next year.

  112. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    I’m not going to allow a certified psychopath to attack me so if you want this crap to stop, then report him to Chad and hope Chad sees the light. Until then, I’m going to stand up for myself.

  113. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Not fun? Dad, many here live vicariously thru bett and I.

  114. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Betsy, no problem. I will just not read any of your posts for an hour or so. Perhaps that will give you two enough time to exhaust your anger and the rest of the bloggers here. That is a shame because when not fighting, both of you talk good baseball. Maybe see you in an hour or so.

  115. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    certified?
    have you seen documents?

  116. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Lockdown, my point was that he went to the mat for AJ in a ridiculous way – with his stupid pipe comment. AJ is going to be here for awhile, so yeah, he has to get him going – but AJ is not going to get going. He is who he is – he’s not going to get any better. If they didn’t want to give Hughes a long rope coming off injury, then he should have stayed in AAA. Putting him in the pen, which I think was coming, would have shown a complete lack of regard for Hughes’ development and a complete lack of knowledge of how to develop any pitching.

  117. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Has anyone seen the movie Raging Bull?

  118. MG August 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 11:31 am
    Betsy and Mick: You two are monopolizing the blog with your in-fighting. It is not fun for the rest of us. Please play nice
    ——————–
    it’s really enough of this already, do you think most of us are 3 years old?

  119. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    People please! Find your zen.

  120. I Like Inge August 20th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Did she just write “Rat’s Patootie”… that’s funny

  121. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Dad should mind his own business, betts and I get along just fine.

  122. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    wcyf

    say something about sock puppets to change the subject

  123. 86w183 August 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    the heck with playing nice, just go play somewhere else. Individual snarkfests are pointless to the rest of us.

    Exchange emails and snipe at each other without boring the rest of us.

    As for Hughes, no one was/is necessarily “right” or “wrong” about him. I thought that was a good start last night, but there are still legitimate questions about how he’ll hold up for 200 innings in a season. He still doesn’t throw his change up enough and the absence of strikeouts, while not urgent is not ideal.

    But his fastball command last night was maybe his best ever.

  124. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Mick,

    You antagonize Betsy pretty much every time she posts…….

  125. MG August 20th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:38 am
    wcyf

    say something about sock puppets to change the subject
    —————–
    he’ll just repeat the same lame comment another 20 times, give it about an hour, it gets a better reception than claiming a 4 seam fastball is always straight and making a fool of himself once again.

  126. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Betsy and Mick: You two are monopolizing the blog with your in-fighting. It is not fun for the rest of us. Please play nice
    ======================
    Most of what she said was directed at others, not moi, so smoke the objective pipe…

  127. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:40 am

    In some cultures a rat’s patootie is revered.

  128. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Mick,

    You antagonize Betsy pretty much every time she posts…….
    ==================
    Blake,

    And…….

  129. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Excuse me 86, I have no interest in doing this, but if you can’t figure out who’s to blame here, I don’t know what to tell you. This is a pattern of his and has been for a long time. I would prefer to just ignore him, but he can’t ignore me and the guy is truly mean-spirited. I’m sorry it bothers you, but this is NOT my fault and I’m not going to sit around and take this crap from a total stranger. Don’t put any of this on me.

  130. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    And…..why do you do it?….just to rile her up?

  131. Giuseppe Franco August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    How ironic (and laughable) that WCYF is trying to play peacemaker when nobody drags this place into the sewer as often as he does.

  132. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    hurricane betsy has left the building, not to be seen again for a indeterminate amount of time as to which she sees fit as she cannot tear herself away….not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  133. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Has anyone seen anything today about Arod perhaps being activated for tonight’s game?

  134. 86w183 August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    I don’t blame you, but getting upset by an anonymous post isnt in your best interests either. and responding to them gives the antagonist exactly what he/she is looking for.

  135. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    If he is activated, who goes down/released

  136. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    betsy cannot take a joke, i want to be friends but she is too mean spirited to do so.

  137. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Smoking the objective pipe reveals that Mick starts something with Betsy every time she posts……I don’t have a problem with either of you but that’s what the objective pipe says.

  138. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:45 am

    Blake yeah ……..and he still mentioned my name when I wasn’t posting, so doesn’t that tell you he’s obsessed? I don’t care if he hates me or my posts, but why not ignore me? Because he doesn’t want to – he’s trying to play some kind of game and it’s not funny. I really have ignored him for as long as I could and I think most of the regulars here would vouch for that. I also don’t think anyone could blame me for just having had enough

  139. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    MG – I am truly sorry that you are so ignorant that you don’t understand the difference between a four-seam and two-seam fastball. I posted a link last night to a pitching blog to corroborate what I said, but you ignored it of course.

  140. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    86, if you go back, you’d see that I have ignored the guy almost every time, but I’m only human and there’s only so much I can take. At some point, I have to say something. It’s EVERY post – it’s not an occasional comment, it’s EVERY post I make. I left for a few days, but really – why should I allow myself to be chased off? I left because posting here has become a real chore – I can’t breathe without being attacked here. There are some really good people here who I missed, so I came back, but I guess I should have known better to think I could avoid this. Believe me, I don’t enjoy getting into fights- as I said, I’d much rather just ignore him and the others who like to antagoniz me, but they’ve made it impossible to do so. To be fair, Mick is not the only one who does this.

  141. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Giuseppe Franco August 20th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    How ironic (and laughable) that WCYF is trying to play peacemaker when nobody drags this place into the sewer as often as he does.

    ***********

    Please Generalissimo Franco! Play nice! Find your zen.

  142. Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    I would be very happy to get back to baseball talk if it’s allowed

  143. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    # Betsy August 20th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Mick, you got what you wanted – me off the blog, so why not throw a party and celebrate?
    # mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    betsy, hi how ya been, never wanted you off, enjoy the rapport we have .
    ==================================================
    Who started what?

  144. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    To be fair, Mick is not the only one who does this.
    ==================================
    Now that’s smoking the objective pipe.
    I am willing to shake hands but don’t think you are…

  145. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    I really wish this blog would embrace the wholesome values one finds in Iowa. Play nice. I implore you.

  146. Tar August 20th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Mick

    Your stalking of and bullying of Betsy is pathetic. It’s very cowardly and needs to stop. Be a freaking man, and not a freaking slime ball.

  147. blake August 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    “betsy cannot reply, her one comment is up.”

    Its this passive aggressive stuff that you know makes her mad…..so.why do you do it? Just skip the posts.

  148. 108 stitches August 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Cashman is going nowhere else. It makes no sense to leave when the foundation he built is close to fruition with more to come. Hal Steinbrenner call tell Randy Levine to back off.
    Chicago is not Cashman’s kinda town.

  149. MG August 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
    MG – I am truly sorry that you are so ignorant that you don’t understand the difference between a four-seam and two-seam fastball. I posted a link last night to a pitching blog to corroborate what I said, but you ignored it of course.
    ————-
    what a moron you are. I’ve actually stood on a pitching mound and threw both types of fastballs and know the exact differences, the only balls you’ve ever thrown are yours out the window a long time ago.

    CB gave a complete explanation last night of how a 4 seam fastball has late life, perhaps you should actually try working on your reading comprehension skills.

  150. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    you were making such great progress but ignoring people is the wrong way to go about things rather you comeback with cogent coherent retorts

  151. Tar August 20th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    There is a time for everything, except maybe being a coward. That’s my perception of such behavior. Again you have crossed the line Not necessary.

  152. mick August 20th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    some here are oversensitive

    “betsy cannot reply, her one comment is up.”

    that’s a joke

  153. mick August 20th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    THE PLAY NICE ERA IS OVER

  154. Tar August 20th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    You’re bullying of Betsy is a joke. This is not a freaking mob, and it’s not ok.

  155. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    This place is a lot more tolerable….even enjoyable….. when good posters talk baseball without having to resort to name calling or put downs. When people treat others with respect, we get the good posters back. But, if your personal needs are such that you can not make baseball points without name calling or put-downs….. at least try not to monopolize the blog with personal vendettas caused by mutual name calling and putdowns. Just my two cents.

  156. DadinIowa August 20th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    If anyone wants to talk baseball……. does anyone know who is going off the 25 man today?

  157. mick August 20th, 2011 at 12:05 pm

    next=====>>>>>

  158. West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    MG August 20th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan August 20th, 2011 at 11:47 am
    MG – I am truly sorry that you are so ignorant that you don’t understand the difference between a four-seam and two-seam fastball. I posted a link last night to a pitching blog to corroborate what I said, but you ignored it of course.
    ————-
    what a moron you are. I’ve actually stood on a pitching mound and threw both types of fastballs and know the exact differences, the only balls you’ve ever thrown are yours out the window a long time ago.

    CB gave a complete explanation last night of how a 4 seam fastball has late life, perhaps you should actually try working on your reading comprehension skills.

    *************

    Who is the moron? You obviously don’t know the difference between the two pitches. Allow me to educate you.

    On a four-seamer, when you grip a ball across the laces you create back spin as the air flows across the seams of the ball. This allows one to throw the straightest and hardest ball possible.

    When you throw a two-seam fastball, you grip it along the seams, causing less resistance and greater movement; usually sink or running in on a batter depending.

    There are small exceptions depending upon a particular pitchers grip, hand size, arm motion etc., but the above is not disputable.

  159. Tar August 20th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Dad

    I agree. Mick has been on a mission to sabotage that goodwill since the game thread yesterday. I can not do nothing when I perceive somebody is being bullied relentlessly. Perhaps Chad would like to intervene because I am not going to say nothing while the bullying continues.

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