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Postgame notes: “This is ridiculous”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes, Podcast on Aug 21, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s what was shown on television.

A.J. Burnett had just walked Joe Mauer in the second inning. When Joe Girardi pulled Burnett from the game, Burnett began walking off the mound, turned suddenly and cursed toward Girardi and the gathered Yankees. Girardi seemed to react, but it was hard to tell whether he said anything back to Burnett. When Burnett got to the dugout, went straight to the stairs leading to the Yankees clubhouse. When Girardi got to the dugout, he also went directly to the stairs leading to the clubhouse.

Here’s what was said after the game.

“You can write what you want,” Girardi said. “You can say what you want, but he was pissed because he thought he struck out Joe Mauer. I asked if they thought it was a strike and the guys said they thought it was a strike.”

Girardi grew truly agitated when asked about following Burnett into the clubhouse.

“This is silly,” he said. “This is really, really silly. You know what? We had a fistfight, is what we had. I came in and looked at the pitch. Our video room is right down there. Everyone always seems to want to blow it up about A.J., A.J., A.J. Nothing happened between me and A.J. I went and looked at the pitch. I’m tired of it. I’m tired of people looking for something between me and A.J. Me and A.J. have mutual respect for each other. I cheer for this guy, he cheers for me and we cheer for this team. I want the guy to do well. Everyone’s always trying to say there’s something between me and A.J. What do you want, the pitcher to want to come out of the game? I mean, this is ridiculous.”

It might have seemed ridiculous to Girardi, but watching the scene unfold, it seemed ridiculous for another reason. Burnett seemed to be showing up his manager on the field, and Girardi seemed to be chasing his pitcher to have a chat about those actions. That’s certainly what it looked like.

“No,” Burnett said. “Russ came out and he said, ‘That’s a strike.’ I said, yeah. I was not talking to Joe, absolutely not. No matter how mad I get, that guy’s taken my back every day I’ve been here, (including) last year. No matter how boiling I’m going to be, I’m not going to say a swear at him. Not him. No chance.”

Girardi was supportive as ever after the game. He said he still has confidence in Burnett and the Yankees will work to get him back on track. But this is a bad Twins lineup, and Burnett couldn’t pitch out of the second inning. Freddy Garcia comes off the disabled list in a week, and then the Yankees have to make a rotation decision.

“We’re still on a six-man rotation just because we need to,” Girardi said. “We need this guy to pitch. That’s the bottom line; we need him to pitch like he’s capable of pitching.”

Here’s Burnett.

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Here’s Girardi.

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• Burnett said he and Girardi had a conversation “two or three innings later” so that Burnett could explain saying what he said coming off the mound. “We talked about it, for sure,” Burnett said. “I made sure and told him, look man, not you. I told him, as ticked off as I am, not at him. No chance.”

• Burnett said Girardi didn’t tell him to come back to the dugout after he was pulled from the game. “You don’t have to tell me that,” Girardi said. “I’ve been around the game long enough. I came in, put my stuff down and went back to the dugout.”

• Both Girardi and Burnett seemed to think his curveball was alright at moments tonight, but he had no control of the fastball. “It’s a hiccup, man,” Burnett said. “I had a bad night. I’m going to be frustrated and upset about it, but I’m going to come ready to work and ready to get back on a roll. It’s not going to stop me.”

• Burnett thought his last pitch to Mauer was a strike, but he also seemed to know he had no room for argument. “You’re not going to give somebody a strike who’s all over the zone,” he said. “That’s the case there.”

• Martin on ball four to Mauer: “If it missed, it missed by a hair. He called that pitch later in the game. Nothing you can do to change that, but it was a good pitch. He just didn’t call it. Whether it was a strike or not; if it missed, it missed by an inch or two. Normally you get that pitch if you’re around the zone. He hit the spot.”

• Martin on Burnett: “It just seemed like they were hitting every fastball that he threw over the plate. He had a hard time locating his curveball for a strike, and when that happens, they kind of just spit on the curveball, spit on the breaking stuff and wait for their fastball. When they got their fastball, they didn’t miss it.”

• Burnett’s 1.2 innings were his fewest in a start since he threw one inning on June 20, 2004 against Atlanta as a member of the Marlins. His 61 pitches were the fewest he’s thrown in a game since September 27, 2010 in Toronto. This was his shortest start as a Yankee.

• Four of Burnett’s five hits went for extra bases. He entered tonight’s game tied for fifth in the American League with 59 extra-base hits allowed.

• Robinson Cano extended his hitting streak to 12 games and is hitting .373 in that span. Cano’s season-high hitting streak is 13 games.

• Martin played second base for the first time in his Major League career. He’s played third three times this season.

• Andruw Jones went deep for the second time in as many games. This one did not go into the third deck.

•  On the day he got to the Yankees, Aaron Laffey made his debut and allowed two runs on five hits through three innings. He said before the game that he grew up a Yankees fan. “My dad was a big-time Mantle and DiMaggio fan,” he said. “I just kind of fell into the same role. Growing up watching some of these guys, it’s just an honor to be in the same locker room as them.”

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260 Responses to “Postgame notes: “This is ridiculous””

  1. LGY August 21st, 2011 at 12:28 am

    pcaldera
    A.J. Burnett hasn’t beaten an AL club with a winning record since April 13. That club was the Baltimore Orioles (6-3 then, 41-72 since).

  2. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 12:28 am

    Great recap Chad. Really superb reporting.

  3. jacksquat August 21st, 2011 at 12:31 am

    I could not care less if there were words between AJ and Girardi.

    The problem is there are at least 5 pitchers and probably more on the Yankees who are better starters than AJ. This has gone on for 1.5 years now, it’s time to cut bait and he can try again next year after work in the offseason. For now I would have him come in from the bullpen and throw as hard as he can for one inning at a time. Maybe he would be good at that.

  4. Betsy August 21st, 2011 at 12:31 am

    Either way, the point is AJ has almost no rope with Girardi anymore; I have no idea what Cashman is thinking. I hope he’s thinking that he sounded foolish passionately defending a player who blatantly disrespected his manager

  5. Yankee Trader August 21st, 2011 at 12:32 am

    Chad -great post.

    Good night all!

    Again I’m almost certain I saw Burnett say/sing when walking off the mound- “Why’s Everybody Always Pickin’ on Me.”

  6. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 12:32 am

    Whether something looks like or not isn’t always the case. I remember not too long ago that something that looked like a home run, really wasn’t.

  7. 98NYY August 21st, 2011 at 12:33 am

    Hard to stay mad at a guy who wears his hair like Dennis the Menace…but I am trying

  8. fantasygame101 August 21st, 2011 at 12:34 am

    I wonder if AJ will bet all his money that on his next start, he will go 6 innings and give up 3 runs which is an absurd definition of quality start.

  9. yanks 27 August 21st, 2011 at 12:37 am

    he will go 6 innings and give up 3 runs which is an absurd definition of quality start.

    ==================

    And even with that “absurd” definition of a quality start… AJ has only managed 7 quality starts out of the 26 he has made. Just unbelievable.

  10. Pat M. August 21st, 2011 at 12:38 am

    I think this is much to do about nothing at all……Media driven bs…..You folks should have been around for The Martin years and even the Pinella regime……Now that was right there to be seen without subtitles….Tonight was absolutely a non story…..

  11. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 12:38 am

    Mark Feinsand’s Take:

    “Ben Revere singled in Hughes to make it 4-0, then Burnett walked both Plouffe and Mauer, loading the bases with two outs. That was all Joe Girardi could take, as the manager walked to the mound to lift his beleaguered starter.

    Burnett handed the ball to Girardi, took three steps off the mound, then turned over his left shoulder and shouted three words – two of them unprintable in this space – to express his displeasure to his manager.

    This was not the first time Burnett has showed Girardi up after being removed from the game, although it marked the first time the manager answered back. Girardi turned his head and said something back to Burnett, and although it was unclear what he said, there was no mistaking how tense the situtation was.”

  12. xcv August 21st, 2011 at 12:39 am

    so glad to know that they both still have mutual admiration for each other

  13. Tank August 21st, 2011 at 12:41 am

    Girardi and Burnett = the new Billy Martin and Reggie?

  14. xcv August 21st, 2011 at 12:42 am

    Martin on Burnett: “It just seemed like they were hitting every fastball that he threw over the plate…

    yeah…major league hitters tend to do that with low 90s fastballs right down the middle of the plate.

  15. Captain Clutch August 21st, 2011 at 12:42 am

    At some point Cashman and Girardi are going to realize that covering for AJ is making them sound stupid. You can keep telling us that it was one bad pitch, one bad inning, it wasn’t that bad, he had good stuff and all of that nonsense but we have eye balls. This has been going on for almost 2 years now and they are going to run out of excuses.

  16. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 12:43 am

    Chad – You might want to tell Feinsand that his copy editor missed a spelling error “situtation”. Or not. : )

  17. Run it Out August 21st, 2011 at 12:46 am

    I always had doubts that either Hughes or Nova were going to the pen. Why would they do such a stupid thing? Who thinks either Colon or Garcia are going to be part of the Yankees next year. Why would they occupy a spot in the rotation and keep Hughes or Nova from developing? If either Hughes or Nova were crapping the bed then it would make sense but Nova has been good and Hughes has been good since coming off the DL. Betsy seems to think that Hughes was the only guy destined for the pen. Simply irrational.

  18. pat August 21st, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Nice media manipulation by the Joe and AJ.

    Don’t like the story? Change it for another one.

    They just changed the lead story from “AJ got yanked in the 2nd inning because he had nothing” to “Joe blamed the media” and “AJ and Joe are/aren’t feuding”.

  19. Pat M. August 21st, 2011 at 12:47 am

    Well certainly the news fish wrapping hacks will run with this tomorrow and it’ll be front / back page cover news…….Giradi is an old school catcher and if he thought Burnett was talking to him we’d know about it……Much to do about nothing other than AJ’s ERA jumped almost a half run tonight

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 12:52 am

    Pretty cynical Pat. Come on, this is a story.

  21. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 12:56 am

    Joe’s got to handle the media better than that — he blew up at them. That quote Chad has there is ridiculous.

    Chad’s always one to downplay the story, so obviously, this WAS a story.

    (Sorry, Pat — the media doesn’t always make this stuff up, you know).

  22. I Am Winning August 21st, 2011 at 12:57 am

    “We need him to pitch like he’s capable of pitching.”

    Everyone in baseball has been saying that since he came to the majors, if it hasn’t happened in a decade, it won’t ever happen. Baseball isn’t a sport of 40 years. You will be lucky to have a 10-20 year career.

    I’m glad Girardi and Burnett don’t have an issue, but regardless, Burnett is pitching terribly, everyone knows that. Therefore something needs to happen soon. His ERA in the past 2 seasons, with a drastic decrease in overall offense in MLB, is over 5.00. That is inexcusable.

  23. Jackson August 21st, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Couldn’t agree more w/ Pat M. Joe believed what AJ’s reason was for going off leaving the mound. The real story is our starting rotation and how it’s handled.

  24. 4time August 21st, 2011 at 12:59 am

    “Girardi and Burnett = the new Billy Martin and Reggie?”

    AJ is the straw that stirs our drink?

  25. xcv August 21st, 2011 at 1:01 am

    time for cashman and girardi to smoke the “burnett really blows and we just can’t run this hump out there every 5th start” pipe

  26. Dill Pickler August 21st, 2011 at 1:02 am

    Just because a reporter thinks he was yelling at Girardi doesn’t mean he was. Both AJ and Girardi say the same thing, so I take them at their word.

    It’s not the real story anyway. The real story is how godawful a pitcher AJ Burnett has become, and the fact that he is so mentally weak that any little bump when he is pitching completely blows him up. That and the fact that the Yankee brass keep defending him, and keep him in the rotation.

    Burnett says “it was just a hiccup.” Just a hiccup?!? Good God, if it is just a hiccup, then he’s the new Charles Osborne, the Iowa farmer who had the world’s longest recorded case of the hiccups: 68 years. Okay, A.J.’s hiccups have only been going on for, what? A bit under 2 seasons now? And counting?

    A hiccup. Give me a break. The guy is completely and utterly untrustworthy as a pitcher, and any manager who puts him in a playoff rotation should be sent to the booby hatch. This tattooed buffoon could be pitching in the Little League World Series and he’d be getting lit up. A hiccup.

    WCYF — fyi: copy editors normally don’t edit blog posts. That stuff goes straight from the reporters’ keyboard to our screens. But I’m sure Chad will say it was just a hiccup.

  27. tk August 21st, 2011 at 1:03 am

    “We need this guy to pitch. That’s the bottom line; we need him to pitch like he’s capable of pitching.”

    Unfortunately, Girardi is left saying this after almost each of A.J.’s starts. Obviously A.J. is capable of pitching better than he did tonight, but his upside is far from what it once was and the downside–games like tonight & his performance vs. the White Sox–are going to happen more often. What Burnett said or who it was directed to is really secondary to how he is pitching at this point, which is like a guy on the brink of not being in the rotation for the playoffs or next season.

  28. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 1:03 am

    Pat M. August 21st, 2011 at 12:38 am
    I think this is much to do about nothing at all……Media driven bs…..You folks should have been around for The Martin years and even the Pinella regime……Now that was right there to be seen without subtitles….Tonight was absolutely a non story…..

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    This isn’t crap. Remember Earl Weaver roasting Palmer after he lost a game? Billy Martin was as charming as a rattlesnake, but, so was Hank Bauer.

  29. pat August 21st, 2011 at 1:05 am

    “…this WAS a story. ”

    Actually this is 2 stories- one about AJ pitching poorly and one where Joe yelled at the media.

    Only 1 of those stories matter in the win/loss column and that’s not the one that will get the most ink.

  30. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 1:05 am

    Dill Pickler August 21st, 2011 at 1:02 am

    WCYF — fyi: copy editors normally don’t edit blog posts. That stuff goes straight from the reporters’ keyboard to our screens. But I’m sure Chad will say it was just a hiccup.

    *************

    It’s not a blog post. It was Mark Feinsand’s story in the Sunday Daily News.

  31. Dill Pickler August 21st, 2011 at 1:06 am

    Ah. I stand corrected, then. More than just a hiccup!

  32. Bronx Jeers August 21st, 2011 at 1:06 am

    They just changed the lead story from “AJ got yanked in the 2nd inning because he had nothing” to “Joe blamed the media” and “AJ and Joe are/aren’t feuding”.

    ————————————

    Good take on this.

    Joe certainly bends over backwards to keep things in house if this is all indeed true and it was AJ cursing out Joe after getting shellacked yet again.

    And if it is true then AJ should be ashamed because there aren’t too many big league managers that wouldn’t hang him out to dry at this point after getting cursed out at center stage.

    I guess it’s dramatic if nothing else and it’s all somewhat window dressing because the Yanks are still in 1st place but for Chrissake they could be a hell of a lot better off if this guy can pitch a hair and a half better and the team could win a couple of his starts. Sure they could have won a couple of his earlier starts but this is the point in the season when it’s sink or swim and AJ’s been doggy paddling for far too long.

  33. Pat M. August 21st, 2011 at 1:07 am

    You want responsible journalism, read tomorrow NY Times account of this, it vary from what the sensational rags like the Post & News will report….GB there’s a good piece in tomorrow’s NY Times on The Rog and his 61 hr’s ( hard to believe ) 50 years ago……..Goodnight folks and good morning to the breakfast club minus Doreen & Erica….

  34. Dill Pickler August 21st, 2011 at 1:10 am

    “this is the point in the season when it’s sink or swim and AJ’s been doggy paddling for far too long.”

    Uhh, no. He’s sinking. And he’s taking the team down with him, every time he pitches.

  35. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Feinsand is of the same ilk as Matthews is. Both are no better than ambulance chasers and with as few scruples.

  36. Dill Pickler August 21st, 2011 at 1:14 am

    “AJ is the straw that stirs our drink?”

    No, AJ is the new Ed Whitson. Or maybe he’s the marshmallow salesman.

  37. leeteam August 21st, 2011 at 1:15 am

    I must have watched AJ walk off the mound a dozen times. He definitely turned around and said something, but it looks like he said, “It was a strike”. Watch his lips and you be the judge.

    When AJ turned around and said what he said, Cano was looking straight at AJ and Jeter was facing Girardi and Cano. IF AJ cussed at Girardi why didn’t Cano and Jeter react to his comments. Jeter did not even turn his head to AJ.

    The announcers and press are such idiots.

  38. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 1:17 am

    GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 1:12 am

    Feinsand is of the same ilk as Matthews is. Both are no better than ambulance chasers and with as few scruples.

    ****************

    Right, Mark Feinsand has no scruples. Were you always a rude idiot that likes to demean honest reporters or is this a new affliction? Guess you never got over the media blowing your buddies cover at My Lai huh.

  39. pat August 21st, 2011 at 1:19 am

    Now if there was just a way to work Alex into this AJ/Girardi drama as having done something wrong, they’d have a Yahtzee! :wink:

    The last one is now home from work so my parental vigil is complete. Good night!

  40. stuart a August 21st, 2011 at 1:20 am

    hey aj just had a bad day. he forgot the part that almost every day he pitches is a bad day.

    he DOES NOT GET IT AND NEVER WILL….

    groundhog day in 5 days with the dope…………….this is a bad rerun over and over and over….

    but aj has to turn it around, like he has a track record of success? they signed he based on can be not what is. what he is is a 5th starter at best on a really bad team like KC he could be a 2nd or 3rd starter and with no scrutiny and pressure he may on occassion dominate…

    AJ SUCKS.

  41. tk August 21st, 2011 at 1:22 am

    Since A.J.’s May 9th start vs. Boston last season, he has pitched 302 innings with an ERA of 5.54. The AL average this year is an ERA around 4. This level of performance is why tonight has been such a hot topic.

  42. JobaTipsHisCap August 21st, 2011 at 1:24 am

    LOL, yeah, AJ has a bad day every time when he starts.

    anyone in here still defends him? piece of crap.

  43. Jackson August 21st, 2011 at 1:24 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 1:17 am

    Guess you never got over the media blowing your buddies cover at My Lai huh.

    -

    Uncalled for.

  44. Dill Pickler August 21st, 2011 at 1:25 am

    Yes, tk. And the contract. Try as Cashman might, he can’t escape the truth of the matter, that the contract ties the team’s hands, to some extent. They’ve got so much invested in Burnett they can’t just cut him loose, and trading him would be nearly impossible at this point. And I don’t think putting him in the bullpen is an option. The guy has such awful command that that just has disaster written all over it. I really think this is going to be one of Cashman’s main challenges this offseason, to find a way to unload this clown.

  45. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 1:28 am

    Jackson August 21st, 2011 at 1:24 am

    Uncalled for.

    *******

    There’s a history. He calls me a tree hugger and other such things. But thanks.

  46. Frozen Rope August 21st, 2011 at 1:30 am

    can’t we dump him on the nationals? throw in some money to make the deal work. AJ wins since he’s in the NL and close to home. after all this is the team that blew all that money on Jayson Werth. i’ve been drinking the AJ and his great stuff kool aid for 2.5 years but this saga is getting ridiculous. time to move on.

  47. tk August 21st, 2011 at 1:32 am

    Trading A.J. would essentially mean dumping as much of his contract as they can, but if they feel he will provide nothing more than he has over his last 300IP, that’s exactly what they should do. You could probably count on A.J. for 200IP next season, but if he’s going to do that with a 5 ERA, is that really better than suffering through the growing pains of one of the young kids? At least that would likely provide future benefit.

  48. Jackson August 21st, 2011 at 1:32 am

    You’re welcome. I’ll let the readers decide.

  49. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 1:35 am

    I don’t really care what the readers thing. Thanks again.

  50. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 1:43 am

    Hate to disappoint Pat M and the media haters, but the Times saw what most rational fans saw with their own eyes.

    Joe doesn’t belong in NY (never did), and AJ needs some new scenery, far, far away from the Yanks.

  51. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 1:53 am

    The Times article was no different; they saw it the way everyone else did.

  52. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 1:58 am

    I have to just add something here. Jack Curry is the epitome of a classy A-1 journalist who formerly worked for the NY Times — the paper even Pat M seems to see as less “tabloid-like” than the Post or the News, so for Joe to go after him like that was uncalled for. When Girardi’s feeling defensive, that’s his stance. But the question was anything but confrontational.

  53. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 2:04 am

    Well said Taiwan. Curry is considered the best of the best. He was doing his job.

  54. harrs44 August 21st, 2011 at 2:05 am

    You want to know what I’m absolutely, positively sick of, and what I think is ridiculous, Girardi? The way you and Cashman stand behind this absolute bum and headcase Burnett. What has he done to earn his spot in the rotation? At least Nova and Hughes go out there every fifth day (or whenever the schedule allows) and give it their best effort.

    Burnett sucks, plain and simple. The numbers don’t lie. And speaking of numbers, I don’t know what that weasel Cashman was looking at when he tried to pull stats out of his rear end when defending Burnett a few weeks back. It’s like groundhog day watching this guy pitch.

    The decision shouldn’t be about money. It should be about which guy gives you the best opportunity to win when he’s on the mound. It is abundantly clear that Burnett doesn’t do that anymore. Enough already!

  55. Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 2:11 am

    Curry is one of the best, WCYF. However, it is none of the media’s business and Joe had every right to give whatever reporter asked the question the same answer he gave Curry. The media has one intention and that is to create a story or create controversy. Joe kept this in-house unlike the way Cashman handled the Posada situation earlier this year and I appreciate Joe for doing so. There is no reason to stab one of your players in the back to the media, even if it is Alan James Burnett. Once you backstab one player, you lose credibility and respect from other guys and it is a slippery slope. The last thing a manager wants to do is lose his team, even a very bad strategic manager. While Joe may be a horrible strategic manager, he his a great manager of people, and he treats his players like family.

  56. sammiejohnson August 21st, 2011 at 2:13 am

    Remember all the earlier posts today people….

    Be nice.

    It is nice, to be nice, to the nice…..

  57. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 2:20 am

    Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 2:11 am

    Curry is one of the best, WCYF. However, it is none of the media’s business and Joe had every right to give whatever reporter asked the question the same answer he gave Curry. The media has one intention and that is to create a story or create controversy. Joe kept this in-house unlike the way Cashman handled the Posada situation earlier this year and I appreciate Joe for doing so. There is no reason to stab one of your players in the back to the media, even if it is Alan James Burnett. Once you backstab one player, you lose credibility and respect from other guys and it is a slippery slope. The last thing a manager wants to do is lose his team, even a very bad strategic manager. While Joe may be a horrible strategic manager, he his a great manager of people, and he treats his players like family.

    *************

    Jacob, you can’t say it is none of the media’s business. It’s a legitimate story and people want to know and a reporters job is to get at the truth. Curry asked legitimate questions. No one suggested Girardi no stand by Burnett, but he lied and he was inappropriate in how he reacted to Curry.

    Girardi could have just said, “whatever happened is between AJ and I.”

  58. ron August 21st, 2011 at 2:20 am

    This is not about gb7 1950′s,60′s,70′s baseball memmories.

    This is about burnett being the worse pitcher in the yankees 6 man rotation.

    The yankees almost never win with burnett on the mound & if they do it is because they overcome the hole he puts them in.
    Not the case when hughes,nova,colon,garcia & obviously cc is on the mound.

    With hughes resurgence,he simply can’t be removed from the rotation.

    If this was burnetts last year,he would be released.
    This is about what is owed to burnett over the next 2 years & then some.

    Even burnetts last year,i think the yankees will seriously consider releasing him.

  59. ron August 21st, 2011 at 2:26 am

    The yankees will just keep marching burnett out there & tinkering with players like nova’s options til burnett is gone.

    We are looking at maybe 1 1/2 more seasons,after this one because in 2013 burnett will be released before he finishes his contract,or traded.

    The yankees will eat a season or half of one,just not 2 full ones & a few months on top of that.

    They will not let him pitch a playoff game unless they have to.

  60. Tar August 21st, 2011 at 2:27 am

    “Guess you never got over the media blowing your buddies cover at My Lai huh.”

    You are an idiot and need to be banned from this site.

  61. Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 2:30 am

    WCYF, if the media wants everything to be their business, then it is perfectly acceptable for Joe to give an ass reaming to whatever reporter wants to make whatever happened between Joe and AJ his business. Curry asked a legitimate question, and Joe gave a legitimate ass reaming defense of his player. Whether it was a lie, neither of us know and I do not care. Joe stood by his player. “Whatever happened is between AJ and I” implies that something happened between the two of them. There is no reason to give the media any unneeded information. By the way, I do not want to know any of the Yankees in-house information, nor do I want any other team having information of the sort. I would rather everything stay in-house, including injuries, nagging pains, etc. Less is better. Less information for the media and for opposing teams is better for the Yankees.

  62. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 2:34 am

    Jacob – Then what do you think the job of the media is?

  63. jacksquat August 21st, 2011 at 2:35 am

    It’s not only one or two media people trying to make a story, it’s *everyone* thinking AJ yelled at Girardi, even Singleton who seems like a pretty straightforward guy.

    But this is nothing like the “Bronx Zoo” days. Fights in the dugout and ownership/management/players saying stuff about each other in the press was commonplace. These days the closest you get to that is Ozzie Guillen.

  64. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 2:37 am

    Tar – get lost you insignificant little blight on humanity.

  65. Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 2:38 am

    I have never liked the media. Throughout the years, the media has evolved into being bloodhounds with no respect for boundaries. It is the job of the media to cover stories, not make stories and create controversies. However, the latter is what the media has become, so even if it is an excellent reporter and man like Jack Curry that asks the question, he deserves what Joe gave him.

  66. Hank Moody August 21st, 2011 at 2:41 am

    The fact is it really doesn’t matter who AJ’s rant was directed at. He will stay in the rotation even if it’s not best for the team. The only scenario I can see him being bumped out of the rotation is if he has 2-3 more TERRIBLE starts and Hughes and Nova pitch phenomenal. I think the likely scenario is we will have to deal with AJ until playoff time where we will use him like we did last year: not as a starter in the ALDS and use him only if necessary in the ALCS/World Series

  67. West Coast Yankee Fan August 21st, 2011 at 2:43 am

    Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 2:38 am

    I have never liked the media. Throughout the years, the media has evolved into being bloodhounds with no respect for boundaries. It is the job of the media to cover stories, not make stories and create controversies. However, the latter is what the media has become, so even if it is an excellent reporter and man like Jack Curry that asks the question, he deserves what Joe gave him.

    ************

    That explains your position; appreciate the honesty. I really don’t think a story was created here.

  68. Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 2:44 am

    I do not agree with Joe keeping AJ in the rotation despite the detriment to the team. Perhaps we lose the division and home field by 1 game because of AJ’s ineptitude? Perhaps we fail to advance to the World Series because a lack of HFA? Simply put, Yanks currently have 5 starters better than AJ. AJ should not be in the rotation for the rest of the season, but will be. AJ better not see postseason starts unless injuries force him to make a postseason start, or I’ll, I’ll, I’ll… be angry.

  69. Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 3:09 am

    ugh at the repeated requests to have WCYF banned. WCYF responds with equally as offensive or inappropriate comments as a lot of others on the blog, including but not limited to GB.

  70. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 3:13 am

    Jacob Ruppert August 21st, 2011 at 3:09 am
    ugh at the repeated requests to have WCYF banned. WCYF responds with equally as offensive or inappropriate comments as a lot of others on the blog, including but not limited to GB

    ~~~~~~~~~~~

    Agreed.

  71. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 3:16 am

    Hank Moody,

    I’m afraid your prediction will be one we’ll all have to endure. I HATE the days AJ pitches. I can almost always count on a loss. I would be shocked if he was on any playoff roster, but we have plenty of regular season games to muddle through with him.

  72. pft2 August 21st, 2011 at 4:37 am

    I wish he pitched Sunday so I would not have had to watch since they will be showing Wangs game for the Nats in Taiwan (and it will be Monday).

    At least AJ cares. I doubt he wants to be bad. Girardi losing his cool like that means the question came pretty close to the truth. It happens.

    AJ is to the Yankees what Lackey is to the Red Sox, although Lackey seems to be heading in the right direction and AJ going the other way. I think a rest would do AJ good (phantom DL or a couple of weeks in the pen).

  73. Vineyard Yankee August 21st, 2011 at 5:12 am

    Great comments guys ! My morning dose of Yankee news. Thanks.

  74. Vineyard Yankee August 21st, 2011 at 5:19 am

    ……….’but I’m going to come ready to work and ready to get back on a roll. It’s not going to stop me.’…………..

    ============

    Get back on a roll ? ? What roll ? ? I can’t recall him ever being on one other than maybe a game or two at a time. LOL !

  75. Gary August 21st, 2011 at 6:04 am

    Morning, Comments are what I expected. I didn’t expect to hear anything negative even if something happened in the post game comments the. My personal opinion is that there was a conversation which went something like get your As# back in the dugout like your supposed to do and support your teamates. Obvious to me what was said and to who it was directed. Joe needs to have taken ot take some action. In order for a manager to remain effective, he can’t take cra% from the players. As far as the rotation who knows, it’s a been a bit of a guessing game as of late as to what kind of perfromance your going to get.

  76. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 6:18 am

    Sure looks like Joe is afraid of his players…not feeling the love. Not the first time we’ve heard this, btw.

    And thanks for saying the obvious, Ken Singleton. Kay has always been a real arse kisser.

    For those Media Haters, best just to skip over the following excerpt, as you prefer the company line regardless of how absurd it is:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The manager and Burnett stuck to an absurd story they’d cooked up, claiming the blow-up was rooted in a close pitch to Joe Mauer that wasn’t called a strike. No one bought it, not even the YES announcers. Ken Singleton, following what he called the “old-school” code of conduct, stated the obvious: Burnett showed up his manager in front of millions of viewers.

    Too bad Girardi didn’t have the guts to stand up to Burnett in public. He found it easier trying to bully Curry, who stood his ground. The angrier Girardi became, the more it looked like he’d been caught in a lie.

    A stronger, more confident manager would’ve said the Yankees are running out of patience with Burnett, that the result of their coddling is two years of underachievement and an even worse attitude.

    There has to be a point where Burnett’s defenders in the organization – namely, Girardi and GM Brian Cashman – have to realize the right-hander has become a negative value. He’s been out-performed by every other Yankee starter and would have no right being in the postseason rotation if this were October.

    Maybe Girardi will finally realize his blind loyalty toward Burnett has only sabotaged him in the clubhouse, where he’s hardly popular, anyway. Girardi wanted to have a separate identity from Torre and now he’s got it – the players have none of the personal affection that they once had for Joe Cool.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    http://www.northjersey.com/spo.....burst.html

  77. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 6:21 am

    Video of Ken Singleton’s comments:

    http://www.twitvid.com/LJDF6

  78. ron August 21st, 2011 at 6:23 am

    The yankees will keep marching burnett out there unless it is unbearable.

    He won’t see any playoff starts unless absolutely needed & the yankees will try to trade him at every chance they get.

    If they can’t trade him,they will release him as soon as they can,maybe the last year or so.

  79. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 6:30 am

    Some good news: Well, the Sox lost (oddly enough they had the same game score) but in a completely different way.

    Better to be out of it at the beginning or lose at the end?

  80. Gary August 21st, 2011 at 6:33 am

    I watched both video’s, I don’t expect to see or hear much more from any Yankees regarding this, but there will be a lot more today from all the news outlets. Thanks God they are not on SNB. Story could switch to A Rods return today.

    Joe has a habit of minimizing things, and his comments at the end weren’t very believable. Obvious he came back to the dugout sat down, thought it about for a few seconds anbd then went right to the runway. It wasn’t a walk to go look at the video machine. Silly question? Humm.

  81. ron August 21st, 2011 at 6:34 am

    Wang IS Taiwan :

    You mean the torre clubhouse where players said that they sat on the bench,no one talking to them if they weren’t in the click & sabathia needing reassurance from cashman that he would fix the clubhouse.

  82. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 6:40 am

    Yep — Girardi’s got his faves, as well.

    You’ve gotta at least have the players’ respect whether they like you personally or not, and letting AJ show him up so clearly on TV is a big mistake.

  83. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 6:42 am

    Nothing’s going to change in terms of AJ pitching, so it doesn’t matter what we think anyway. They’ll keep running that guy out there. I’m not going to watch him pitch anymore either, though. I’ve had my fill.

  84. ron August 21st, 2011 at 6:51 am

    Girardi prob does have his favorites but arod would never be as relaxed under torre & the kids feel like they belong,not so under torre & i love torre.

    Girardi feels like he has to protect burnett,that is how girardi is.

    Burnett is fragile & you can hear how burnett talks about girardi having faith in him when others might not.

    That is good on a personal friendship level,not so good when doing what is best for the team.
    Girardi didn’t wan’t this mess & because of burnetts contract,has to deal with it.

    He is doing the best he can,given his personality.

    Girardi will handle this.

  85. Ken Phelps August 21st, 2011 at 7:00 am

    I’ve heard people compare aj and giradi drama to Reggie and Billy… The difference is That in a big spot Reggie actually helped the team… Aj not so much… Actually aj doesn’t help the team in small spots either

  86. Ken Phelps August 21st, 2011 at 7:03 am

    “The yankees will keep marching burnett out there unless it is unbearable.”

    Umm it’s pretty unbearable right now.

  87. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Ron,

    I don’t have your confidence in Girardi’s people skills. (I think we both agree he’s a terrible in-game manager.) He hasn’t handled AJ well thus far, so I don’t expect it to get any better. This isn’t the first time AJ’s shown him up on the mound, though it is the worst we’ve seen in AJ’s reaction.

    And to remind you, Torre was the champion of AndyP and Jeter in their youth, so he did have the youngsters’ backs then.

    Girardi has had a tough time managing guys he played with — and those are the ones that don’t exactly love/respect him as a manager.

  88. Niblick August 21st, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Nobody with a brain believes a word of what Girardi said about this incident. He attacks the media because AJ showed him up. Instead he should be disciplining AJ. But will he? Of course not, because AJ is a Cashman favorite, and disciplining AJ would reflect unfavorably on Cashman. So it goes on and on with AJ, until his contract expires.

  89. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 7:08 am

    So long morning folks. Hope Nova helps turn the page quickly.

  90. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 7:16 am

    Fortunately, I did not see this game.

    From the sound of it Burnett had nothing.

    His Manager perceiving this pulled him early.

    Sounds like the correct move.

    Also sounds like Burnett didn’t like it much.

    If he didn’t that’s too bad because he sucked.

    Finally, I would say this. If someone has to be removed from the rotation, at this point, it has to be Burnett.

    Doing anything else would be just plain crazy IMO.

    One last thing.

    If it is at all possible to move Burnett in the OS they absolutely should do it.

  91. Niblick August 21st, 2011 at 7:19 am

    I love the BS line that the Yankees need AJ to pitch the way he’s capable of pitching. The problem is that he IS pitching that way. He’s not capable of anything more.

  92. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 7:23 am

    Now that I got that out of the way on to bigger and better things.

    Back to focusing on the positive.

    Phil Hughes. I promised you I would hike for you and post a photo tribute in your honor if you pitched well.

    You certainly exceeded my expectations. Magnificent game.

    I’m keeping my word. Here’s what I owe you. We’re square.

    https://picasaweb.google.com/109721757058432487394/BryceCanyonNP?authkey=Gv1sRgCIHGq9rgrJq2iwE#

    Enjoy it. You more than earned it.

    :)

  93. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 7:54 am

    “This is ridiculous.”

    No Mr. Burnett. It is you who is ridiculous.

    Why don’t you try earning your money for a change ?

    The OS can’t come fast enough as far as you are concerned.

    If we’re really lucky you will not be in PS next season.

    Just shut your trap and stop whining.

    Go off and practice your pie throwing. At least with that you can hit the target most of the time.

    You have worn out your welcome. Period.

    Just disappear.

  94. pkyankfan69 August 21st, 2011 at 7:58 am

    To the people who believe the BS version of the story that Joe & AJ came up with after the game yesterday, you are out of your freaking minds! I mean you are certainly entitled to your opinion but just try opening your eyes for a second or two. AJ had no angry reaction at all after that “disputed” last pitch to walk Mauer. All of his angered occurred in the seconds after he handed the ball to Joe and it quite frankly seemed very directed at the Yankee Manager. When pitchers are angry about calls behind the they are going to yell at the umpire who made those calls. He clearly looked straight at Joe, turning his head away from the umpire behind the plate. AJ is a moron.

    As for the post game reaction by Joe and AJ, what did you expect? They had a few hours to cool off and come up with a story to keep this in house and attempt to squash the story. As we know at this point this is pretty much the standard Yankee practice. From a fans perspective it is too bad because of course I’d like to hear some of the in house drama but I certainly understand why they would not want any of this leaving the clubhouse. If there was video of AJ punching Joe in the face in the dugout they would probably stick to the same BS story about mutual respect blah blah blah.

    The bottom line is AJ sucks. And it sucks that they will keep sending him out there when they have multiple better options because “he has good stuff/potential” AKA he makes a lot of money.

  95. 108 stitches August 21st, 2011 at 7:59 am

    Excuses, excuses, excuses. How much more rope can this lemon (Burnett) be given ? Horrible outings have gone on for far too long. He’s lucky it didn’t happen at the Stadium.
    This clown doesn’t have the wherewithal to get himself straightened before October. He’s content to show the same flawed delivery every time out. It has to be all about the contract which begs the question is winning less important than attempting to justify a bad contract ?
    September 1st can’t come soon enough so somebody like Adam Warren shows a more deserving spot on the postseason than a self imploding Burnett. Adam Warren …….. anybody but Burnett.

  96. RadioKev August 21st, 2011 at 8:10 am

    How can Girardi justify pitching AJ over Hughes, Nova, Garcia or Colon? Unless Colon continues to wear down, I just don’t see it.

  97. Villa Nova-Ya August 21st, 2011 at 8:13 am

    MTU -

    I am a long-time fan of your tribute photographs. You have outdone yourself here. Absolutely magnificent shots of absolutely astounding nature! Looks like someone carved a castle/fortress out of the rock. Thanks for sharing.

  98. Yankee Trader August 21st, 2011 at 8:14 am

    I just watched on mlbtv innings 1 and 2 again. It’s obvious AJ quickly loses his focus when things don’t go his way with umps calls. Example:

    Inning 1:No score, 1 0ut, runners on 2nd and 3rd. 6th pitch to Morneau could easily been a called strike 3[fastball after 5 off speed] Instead it’s called a ball. next pitch is a wild pitch scoring runner from 3rd and then Morneau hits sac fly 2-0. Kubel strikes out. AJ gets that call and he wiggles out of it with no-one scoring.

    At this point the best thing for both parties would be to find a willing trade party and get him to the NL. That’s not going to happen before the end of this season. I doubt that the Yankees eat the 2 remaining years on his contract for the tune of 33M.

  99. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 8:16 am

    Pk69-

    For me it is not anything at all about wanting to hear about any in-house drama. Don’t give a rat’s rear about that kind of gossip.

    It is simply about the truth.

    Making stories up out of whole cloth to protect a player who might have been so far out of line is just ludicrous.

    He should be made to suffer the full consequences of his actions if he crapped on Girardi.

    If he said what he said in the manner he said it he’s lucky they haven’t fined him and possibly even suspended him.

    This guy is a mess and getting messier.

  100. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 8:18 am

    VN-

    I’m glad you enjoyed them. My pleasure.

    Wasn’t that one helluva game by Hughes ?

    Wow !

  101. Yankee Trader August 21st, 2011 at 8:19 am

    You have worn out your welcome. Period.

    Just disappear.
    ———————————-
    MTU-

    Why don’t you take AJ on a hike to Bryce Canyon and then _________ him!!
    Insert any word you feel comfortable with!

    Terrific photos

  102. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 8:23 am

    YT-

    I would prefer to take him out on a long walk in the desert, and then proceed to explain to him how there is plenty of water to be found in a certain direction.

    Then rapidly remove myself from the scene.

    The photos are of Bryce Canyon National Park.

    One of the jewels in the crown of the National Park System.

    You’re most welcome. That place belongs to all of us.

  103. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:24 am

    MTU,

    Signed back on and checked out your posted some photos. Oh my gosh — they are spectacular! Villa Nova-Ya wrote that the rocks looked like a castle and that’s a great description. The pics have made me homesick. Thanks for posting them. Stunning, as always. Just freakin’ gorgeous.

  104. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:25 am

    MTU — typing too fast. Brain fart up there, but I hope you could see how the photos affected me. LOVELY.

  105. pkyankfan69 August 21st, 2011 at 8:26 am

    MTU,

    Are you a Utard or just visiting?

  106. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 8:26 am

    Wang-

    Phil did something special the other night and I tried to show my gratitude.

    Glad you enjoyed seeing a little of that wonderful place.

    I hope you get to see it for yourself someday.

    It’s magic and will fill up your soul. Trust me.

    ;)

  107. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 8:28 am

    Burnett never said a word abour “This is ridiculous”. That was Girardi’s response to the BS question of whether Burnett said anything to him or if there are issues between the two. There are issues, but, they are performance issues, not personality issues. Burnett has never made an excuse for himself. He stinks right now and he knows it. He said that he’ll continue to work on things. At least try to get this crap straight about what was said. Curry, as good as he is, was out of line. Once the question was answered and you keep hammering at it, you deserve to be told to shove it….which is basically what Girardi told him. If the media doesn’t like it….too damned bad. Stop trying to create a conflict that apparently is not there.

  108. MG August 21st, 2011 at 8:28 am

    I’m not going to repeat myself 10 times like a certain other poster did, calling Girardi a liar, about the Girardi-Burnett interaction last night but, as Ken Singleton said, Burnett showed up Girardi on his way back from the mound and Girardi clearly went into the clubhouse to get Burnett right afterwards.

    I don’t necessarily have an issue with them spinning the story, my only interest is that the Yankees put their 5 best starters in the rotation after the doubleheader on Saturday.

    At this point in time, that doesn’t include Burnett and has to include both Hughes and Nova.

  109. Yankee Trader August 21st, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Couple things I didn’t notice on mlbtv when he was taken out:

    1. When he turned around and uttered somthing/#@*& %# to Girardi, was there any reaction from the infielders and catcher captured on TV?

    2. When he came back out of the dugout, how long did he stay sitting on the bench, and did any players or Rothschild come up to him?

  110. 108 stitches August 21st, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Let’s get real. Burnett morphed into a combination of Ed Whitson and Kevin Brown last year and it continued right into this season.
    Would like to hear Brian Cashman’s comments after such heavy defense of Burnett 2 weeks ago. This has denial written all over it.
    The damage had been done long before the called strike question with Joe Mauer. Burnett should have been removed at the first sign of trouble. He threw 61 pitches in less than 2 innings. That speaks for itself.

  111. blake August 21st, 2011 at 8:36 am

    I know fans would have loved Girardi to sit there and trash AJ……but that’s not how it works. They are going to protect and defend their own in these situations and that’s what they should do.

    Curry had to ask that question……that’s his job…..but he and the other members of the media need to be big boys and not get their pantys in a wad if an upset manager acts upset over a question. Girardi should have handled it better……but every manager has snapped at reporters a one time or another……and nobody knows if he’s telling the truth or not. Group think by the media on a subject doesn’t make it so.

    That said…..AJ can’t be in the rotation anymore……its that plain and simple. He’s not one of their best starters and they have given him almost 2 full seasons now to get it together. Its almost.September and its time.for the best players to play.

  112. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:37 am

    GB,

    You have stated quite clearly in the past that you loathe the media, but I have to set something straight for the sake of fairness. It was in response to Curry’s FIRST question that Girardi exploded. Not his second or third time-round, as if he was hammering Joe on the same issue. It was the initial question about what happened on the mound which we all witnessed.

    Curry was not out of line. That is his job — to report on the game. What we all saw was not something that secretly transpired inside the “off-limits” clubhouse, but on live TV.

    Curry is the best in the business and is class itself. On this particular incident, I think you’re way off, but we’re all entitled to have an opinion.

  113. MG August 21st, 2011 at 8:37 am

    GB, did you see the game last night? Burnett obviously yelled something back at Girardi and it was ‘this is effing b******t’.

    If he was that irritated about the final pitch to Mauer he would have been glaring at the umpire-he wasn’t, it was all directed at Girardi.

    Like I said, it doesn’t matter to me and I don’t think Curry was out of line in the interview-for Girardi to say that Burnett threw some good curve balls in a game where he bounced one 10 feet in front of home plate to let a run score isn’t exactly being honest either.

  114. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am

    But blake, do you really believe he’ll be pulled — even after this latest fiasco?

  115. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 8:39 am

    There was no reaction from any player and, usually after getting shelled, Rothschild will seldom if ever to directly to a veteran pitcher. Burnett said the only thing that he was mad about was the way he pitched. He did say that he was upset about being removed at the time but, not to the extent that he was going to blast Girardi.

    It’s up to Burnett, Rothschild and Girardi to fix the pitching issues. If they can’t, it’s likely that he won’t be on the PS roster. Right now, with Garcia on the DL, he’ll make his starts. That’s another thing that the media and fan jackasses are trying to get started and that’s whether Garcia is hurt or not. Produce the proof that he wasn’t or shut the Hell up about it.

  116. Purenyyankee August 21st, 2011 at 8:40 am

    What’s “ridiculous” is that they keep marching this pu$$y out there every 5th day. Enough is enough.

  117. Villa Nova-Ya August 21st, 2011 at 8:41 am

    blake -

    I agree.

    If anyone expected Girardi to react much differently, or to be candid about what may or may not have occurred between him and AJ, hasn’t been paying attention for the last 4 years.

    It is clear that the Yankees do not address their player issues publicly. It is clear that the Yankees will stand by their players in the media.

    The bottom line is, going forward, I sure hope Garcia’s finger is healed and he can throw his splitter effectively, and that someone Bartolo Colon gets a second wind. Because I do not see AJ turning his season around at this point.

    MTU -

    Yes – Hughes was deserving of that tribute. :)

  118. pkyankfan69 August 21st, 2011 at 8:42 am

    MTU,

    Just for a point of clarification, I have spent a lot of time out in Utah. Utard is what a lot of my local friends in the area referred to everyone (including themselves) so that was not supposed to be offensive by any means.

    Love Utah. Went out for the skiing and found a whole bunch more. Bryce along with Zion and Moab are awesome. I particularly liked Zion. Unfortunately Work/friends/family has me back in NJ.

  119. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 8:43 am

    GB, did you see the game last night? Burnett obviously yelled something back at Girardi and it was ‘this is effing b******t’.

    If he was that irritated about the final pitch to Mauer he would have been glaring at the umpire-he wasn’t, it was all directed at Girardi.

    Like I said, it doesn’t matter to me and I don’t think Curry was out of line in the interview-for Girardi to say that Burnett threw some good curve balls in a game where he bounced one 10 feet in front of home plate to let a run score isn’t exactly being honest either.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I saw the game. Explain how all three involved said the same thing about what was said when they were in separate parts of the clubhouse. They didn’t have a meeting to conspire to makeit up. There wasn’t time. As far as what was said on the mound…I have no idea. I’m not a lip reader and I doubt that many, if any on here or in the media are either.

  120. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:44 am

    YT,

    There wasn’t a good shot of the guys’ faces on the field; they were in profile or had their back to the camera. They didn’t really react much — Girardi was saying something and you could see Martin say something, but nothing clear (unlike AJ’s mouth).

    No one came up to AJ on the bench and he left immediately after Ayala allowed AJ’s runners to score before the end of the inning.

  121. ltl August 21st, 2011 at 8:46 am

    GB7:

    Glad to see you are still about. I’ve been across the pond so long I haven’t kept up with events as much as I would like. I do thank you for all the updates that satisfied my Yankees fix.

    Just one question: You and Killer ever finished the bathrooms?

  122. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 8:47 am

    PK69-

    I’m glad you clarified that because I had not heard that term before.

    I am an avid hiker and I live there.

    No one loves this place more than me and I try to share that love thru my photos.

    I am also glad that you had had the opportunity to sample some of our wonders.

    I am constantly humbled by what I am priviledged to get to see.

    Only the good Lord loves this place more than me.

    :)

  123. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am

    I grew up in AZ and went to university in Utah long ago, and the locals called themselves ” Utoids” then as a joke. It was a lot more fun than “Utahn” as they are officially referred to.

    I’ve never heard “Utard” and I doubt it’s something they’d call themselves — maybe visitors dreamed it up.

    One thing is clear: Utah’s lanscapes are truly breathtaking.

  124. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 8:49 am

    Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:37 am
    GB,

    You have stated quite clearly in the past that you loathe the media, but I have to set something straight for the sake of fairness. It was in response to Curry’s FIRST question that Girardi exploded. Not his second or third time-round, as if he was hammering Joe on the same issue. It was the initial question about what happened on the mound which we all witnessed.

    Curry was not out of line. That is his job — to report on the game. What we all saw was not something that secretly transpired inside the “off-limits” clubhouse, but on live TV.

    Curry is the best in the business and is class itself. On this particular incident, I think you’re way off, but we’re all entitled to have an opinion.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    I’ll set you straight. After Girardi gave him the answer to his question, Curry kept after it. It’s not the media’s or the fan’s right to know everything that’s said, whether you like it or not. most sports writers and regular so-called journalists are nothing more than Hollywood gossip columnists. Whether I like journalists or not has nothing to do with it. I have my reasons.

  125. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Wang-

    “One thing is clear: Utah’s lanscapes are truly breathtaking.”

    Do you think I am convinced ?

    The tourism board owes me.

    :)

  126. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:51 am

    PK69,

    BTW, I’m not doubting your friends used that term, but it’s not something I ever heard myself.

  127. MG August 21st, 2011 at 8:52 am

    GB, there is no point in debating this, I saw what I saw and you saw what you saw.

    the Yankees have a long standing practice of not airing internal issues publicly, the after game comments are consistent with that.

    As a bunch of us have said, our only concern is having the best 5 pitchers in the rotation in September, I’m sure we can agree on that.

  128. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:52 am

    MTU — have you ever contact them about your photos? I was sitting here tonight thinking how I could get one of your photos blown up and framed for my apartment here.

  129. Yankee Trader August 21st, 2011 at 8:52 am

    I watched the mlbtv feed of him being pulled from both the NY and Minny feeds.
    I’m not sure that AJ wasn’t just saying/singing “Why is Everybody Always Pickin’ on Me.”

    Seriously the Yankees have some issues to address with their pitching, especially when Garcia comes back.

    Hopefully we see a rebound today from Nova, otherwise they’ll be concern there.

    Who’s likely being sent down today-probably Noesi whose been terrific. Who gets sent down/released when Garcia comes back?-Laffey?

    When Garcia comes back and they go to the 5 man rotation, whose going to the bullpen-AJ? Colon, if he has another short outing on Tuesday?

    The offense should be fine as long as they stay healthy. Just about everybody is contributing in some way or another.

  130. scargo1013 August 21st, 2011 at 8:52 am

    I’ve come to the conclusion that Girardi must be having an affair with Burnett.

  131. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Wang-

    You should see our house.

    Looks like a photo museum dedicated to Utah.

    I’m just curious.

    Is there a particular photo you like ?

    I have posted so many.

  132. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 8:55 am

    GB,

    We’ll have to agree to disagree. All of Curry’s follow-up questions had a basis and were valid in my view.

    Oh, and the Yanks have a VERY effective PR department — you may have heard of Jason Zillo who has dealt in the past with Arod’s media issues? That staff is working throughout the game, and it’s their job to make the Yankees look good or in other words, help them get their stories straight.

  133. NYY fan in NH August 21st, 2011 at 8:58 am

    I can’t waste any more breath on Burnett. I’m tired of hearing “I’m gonna go back out there in 5 days and give it my best shot to correct this” Ridiculous! AJ couldn’t even come out of the bullpen because he is so erratic and walks way to many hitters. If the team fails to win the division, it will be because of letting him pitch his way out of this. He hasn’t been able to correct this in over almost 2 full seasons.
    On a better note, Arod hopefully plays today and solidifies the lineup and we can start another winning streak!!

  134. pkyankfan69 August 21st, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Yea you have to remember I was basically living with and always around the ski bumming community out in Utah. Specifically the S.L.U.T region (Salt Lake, Utah.) And you can imagine how liberal of a crowd that is. I was there for about 8 months over 2 winters/springs and got just under 200 skiing in.

    I paid about $140 a month (including utitlities) for my own room in a house in Cottonwood Heights.) God I wish I could pay that here lol

  135. pat August 21st, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Girardi has 1 job. Managing a baseball team- on the field and in the clubhouse. He pulled AJ in the 2nd inning which took care of the baseball part of that equation and he covered his butt in the postgame which took care of the clubhouse part.

    It is not Girardi’s job to beat up AJ publicly so the fanbase feels better or provide the media with the quote that is going to best satisfy the story they had almost fully written by the 3rd inning.

    Haven’t seen or heard one Yankee player saying anything negative about AJ which tells me there are a bunch of guys following Girardi’s lead. Opinions can differ on whether the players like Girardi but they sure as heck are respecting his lead and in the end that’s what he was hired for.

  136. GreenBeret7 August 21st, 2011 at 9:02 am

    What does Zillo have to do with it? Did he run down to the clubhouse and tell them, “OK, this is the snowjob we’ll give ‘em. Joe, you pretend to explode at our old friend Curry and AJ, you just calmly answer the questions written on this Cue Card. Martin, talk to them in French and confuse them.”?

  137. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Wang-

    I’m sorry I actually forgot to answer your question.

    No. I never have. I don’t particularly like being hung up on, and to be honest I never considered this a commercial venture.

    It’s a labor of love that I give freely, and I wouldn’t want to spoil that by bringing money into the picture, so to speak.

    ;)

  138. dayglo August 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am

    According to riveraveblues, AJ is pitching on Friday. Let it be his last chance. Let Cerv catch him just to change things around.

    If he has another POS outing, then we all know who the odd man out should be in the rotation.

  139. MG August 21st, 2011 at 9:04 am

    there is a video clip on YES showing the final pitch to Mauer and Girardi’s trip to the mound.

    Burnett yells back at Girardi on his way off the mound and Girardi yells something back at Burnett. Girardi was clearly unhappy with Burnett’s actions.

    Before pulling Burnett, Girardi had a brief conversation with Rothschild, they weren’t looking at the bullpen to see if Ayala was ready, it was probably Rothschild saying get him out of there.

  140. blake August 21st, 2011 at 9:06 am

    The reporters had to ask the questions but Girardi was clearly upset so nobody should be that surprised if he snapped back. As I said before……managers snap at reporters all the time……the have to answer the questions but they don’t have to like it and thy aren’t obligated to give the answers everyone wants to hear either.

    What’s funny to me is that Girardi is the one that got “shown up” if that’s indeed what happened……but now the media will make it their business to be outraged by it. Outrage sells…..and their version is a better story than Girardi’s no.matter what the truth is.

    Its a bunch of nonsense and its burying the lead story…..which is how AJ is pitching and what they are going to do with him going forward.

  141. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Wang/PK-

    Last thing I’ll say. Don’t want to take up any more space on this.

    If either of you are ever out this way again and want to hike just let me know.

    If you are willing to accept me as your guide it would be my honor to show you some of these places.

    P.S. I work cheap. A sixpack and a bag of chips will get you a lot.

    ;)

  142. blake August 21st, 2011 at 9:09 am

    “It is not Girardi’s job to beat up AJ publicly so the fanbase feels better or provide the media with the quote that is going to best satisfy the story they had almost fully written by the 3rd inning.”

    Pat is all over this one……reporters tend to get upset when the quotes don’t match the narrative they are forming in their heads.

  143. Yankee Trader August 21st, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Wang-

    Thanks for the feedback. I remember John Smoltz worked with a sports psychologist and it turned his career around. In fact Jack Llewylen would sit behind home plate and encourage Smoltz to stay focused.

    Is Rotschild the teams coach and psychologist? Is it too late for AJ?

    Attached part of an article about Smoltz and others, entitled Slumping at Work?

    A star pitcher for the Atlanta Braves, Mr. Smoltz had a dismal record of 2-11 at the All-Star break in 1991 when he tapped sports psychologist Jack Llewellyn for help. “I had lost my confidence,” says Mr. Smoltz, now a Major League Baseball analyst for television network TBS. Frustrated, he was trying to break out of his slump with hard work, but he was rushing himself on the mound and overanalyzing every bad pitch he made, he says.

    With Dr. Llewellyn’s help, Mr. Smoltz worked to recover more swiftly from a bad pitch. He repeatedly watched a two-minute tape Dr. Llewellyn had made of a half-dozen of his perfect pitches. Then if he made a bad pitch during a game, “I literally would not step back on the mound until I had pulled up that positive file in my mind,” evoking what it felt like to throw well, Mr. Smoltz says.

    His confidence restored, Mr. Smoltz posted a 12-2 record for the remainder of the season and “never looked back,” he says.

    Of course his turnaround helped the Braves get into the WS against the eventual winner the Twins that year.

  144. RabidYankee August 21st, 2011 at 9:10 am

    The sad thing is that just one week ago they were set to pull Hughes from the rotation for this piece of trash AJ. The only thing that prevented it was Garcia getting hurt!

    Cashman’s defense of of AJ was way over the top. Even before last night’s debacle or Hughes gem on Friday…. compare the last 5 starts between the two and see who was better. We all knew what we were getting with AJ. An occasional flash of brilliance surrounded in mediocrity and diappointment. Cashman is just defending himself over the terrible contract he gave AJ.

    They should rip the uniform off this clown.

    Yet instead AJ will make his next start and the charade will continue.

    Both Girardi and Cashman need to go!

  145. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 9:11 am

    MTU —

    Oh, that’s a tough question. You have to understand that I grew up in the HOT desert of AZ and that drive (12 hours long) to Utah was not an easy one. My father bought an apple farm in Payson when I was a kid along with a big, wonderful “summer house” with a creek to the side that we later gave to my grandparents. (We never moved to Utah; it was only a summer retreat for us.)

    Anyway, when I see these photos, I’m back with my wonderful family making that long drive. You know the summers can be so hot with the sun beating down. SO, long story short, I like the photos with shade and pine trees visable. They are not the most spectacular shots you have in this group, but they speak to my childhood memories.

    So, #3, #5 (it’s almost like the camera is worshiping the view from down below), #12 (hiking memories come back with that photo), #14 (a secret hideaway shot with the lovely shadows — which represents the hot day cooling down), and the last shot #18 which is a view I swear I’ve seen before. It represents the whole area there for me. Love the blue sky/with white fluffy clouds in the West. The sky is not the same here in Asia — nor was it like that in Manhattan where I lived for years.

  146. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 9:16 am

    MTU — would love to take you up on your offer. I still have a very good friend in Salt Lake that I owe a visit to — so I’ll keep your invite in mind.

    PK — $140 is INSANE. That’s a beautiful area. And yeah, I get your crowd. ;

  147. Yankee Trader August 21st, 2011 at 9:17 am

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  148. blake August 21st, 2011 at 9:18 am

    The Yankees owe AJ a ton of money…….so. hey had to try to get him right…..they had to try and support him and vet a return on their investment. I don’t think its that surprising that they have covered for him and supported him the last 2 seasons…..they kinda had to.

    However…..now.AJs deal is more than half over and after this season he will have 2 years left. So I think if things stay as they are will may start to see a shift from optimism and support to reality…..

  149. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 9:22 am

    Wang-

    Tell you what. You pick one and I’ll send to you as a gift.

    Just have Chad give me your e-mail address and we’ll go from there.

    OK ?

  150. Wang IS Taiwan August 21st, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Oh my gosh, MTU, that’s so kind! I’ll send my email address along to Chad.

  151. MTU August 21st, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Wang-

    I’m glad to do it. My pleasure.

    It may take me a little while to get it to you but I’ll get ‘er done at some point.

    By the way, I absolutley freakin’ love Payson.

    I almost moved there once.

    P.S. Be sure to tell which # you want. take your time deciding.

    ;)

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