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Postgame notes: “It’s not acceptable”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Aug 27, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

A.J. Burnett officially has a season ERA that’s higher than last year. He’s sitting at 5.31 for the year, 7.79 since the beginning of July and 11.91 in the month of August. Burnett keeps talking about getting himself straightened out and getting on a roll, but the numbers suggest he’s rolling the wrong way.

“It’s not acceptable,” Burnett said. “But the bottom line is, I can’t worry about my numbers right now. Even if I pitch great the rest of the year, I’m still going to have bad numbers. I’ve got to get on good track. I’m going to get on a good track. I can’t worry about my ERA, my 9-11 record.

“I’ve got a lot of support in this room, and that’s probably the thing that bothers me most is you feel like you let guys down a little bit. I’m going out there and battling, so it’s more about me getting on the right path than about my numbers.”

As he’s been most of the season, Burnett tried to find the positives, but this wasn’t the upbeat Burnett we’ve heard time and time again. Tonight, he was more analytical. He didn’t try to paint himself as a pitcher who made some bad pitches, he was a pitcher making mistakes and not fixing him.

Burnett talked about not being aggressive inside, something he believes would make both his “hook” and “heater” more effective. Russell Martin talked about the importance of getting ahead in the count, leaving hitters something to think about other than a poorly located fastball. Joe Girardi talked about mechanical consistency, and the ability to command the fastball.

“I’m frustrated for him,” Girardi said. “You don’t want to see anyone struggle in this game. This game is hard. It’s tough to go through months like this, whether you’re a pitcher or a position player and you’re struggling and hitting .150 for the month. It’s tough; you’re frustrated for him. You want him to turn it around… Right now he’s really struggling. In 2009, he did some really good things for us. IN 2010, he started off great, then he got in a funk and had a hard time getting out of it. He started out pretty good this year, but he’s in another funk. He’s got to fight his way out of it.”

Here’s Burnett.

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• The Yankees plan to fight the decision to play on their last remaining off day, but player rep Curtis Granderson admitted that he’s not sure they can change the decision. “The date hasn’t come, so moving stuff around still is possible even though it has been announced,” he said. “The fact that stuff can be moved around meant that today could have been moved around and it wasn’t. That’s the first and foremost. I just look at, when given the opportunity and everybody else made moves, why wasn’t the move made today.”

• Another thing that has the Yankees frustrated: They’ve been told that the Orioles want to play that Sept. 8 game at 7:05 p.m., leaving the Yankees with a night game immediately before they begin a West Coast trip.

• Ivan Nova will start the first game on Sunday’s double header, but Girardi’s not sure who will start the second.

• Burnett said it was a bad curveball that Mark Reynolds hit for that first home run of the second inning. It was Reynolds third home run in as many days, and it started a string of six-straight Orioles extra-base hits in the second. “The third inning I got mad and got aggressive and threw more pitches in, and things kind of changed,” Burnett said. “It’s just more about focusing and not doubting myself, which I didn’t do, but I’ve got to use that side of the plate.”

• Burnett had three wild pitches tonight and leads the Majors with 20 of them.

• Burnett admitted that it’s becoming harder to stay positive. “No doubt,” he said. “But then you’ve got to thank the guys in here for helping out in that regard. Guys are behind me 100 percent, and my family is behind me 100 percent. So that helps. If I didn’t believe in myself, I probably would be more negative, and more down on myself. But I know the stuff’s there, and I know how good I can be. It’s just a matter of doing it.”

• Girardi said he plans to have Burnett makes his next start, which will likely come at Fenway. “With all these doubleheaders, we gotta play games,” Girardi said. “We need six men.”

• Girardi said he didn’t have Hector Noesi available today, which mean Burnett had to stay out there even as he struggled. “I just didn’t have the people,” Girardi said. “Noesi’s thrown two out of three days, he’s a kid that hasn’t thrown back-to-back and he had thrown 30 pitches and 30 pitches. I just didn’t have the people tonight.”

• Robinson Cano has now hit safely in 17 straight game, the longest hitting streak by a Yankee this season. It’s his fourth career streak of at least 16 games.

• The Yankees have homered in 10 straight games, breaking their season-high streak. They’ve hit 22 homers in that stretch.

• Alex Rodriguez had his first home run since June 11 against Cleveland.

• Nick Swisher’s home run was measured at 412 feet and landed on Eutaw Street beyond right field. It’s the 57th homer to reach the street in Camden Yards history and the 33rd by an opponent.

• Girardi said no players have asked to go home tomorrow. Based on the clubhouse, it sounds like the guys are planning to ride out the hurricane here in Baltimore.

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63 Responses to “Postgame notes: “It’s not acceptable””

  1. Jacob Ruppert August 27th, 2011 at 12:16 am

    Tar, I have no desire to carry on conversation with people that do not want to carry conversation with myself. I will let you in on a not so well kept secret. You are not a knight in shining armor and you will not affect anybody’s posting behavior. We will continue to post the way we choose to post and as long as there are no egregious circumstances, we will all stick around.

  2. yankee 221 August 27th, 2011 at 12:18 am

    Poor Oakland A’s…. they have been on the East Coast during a week which they saw an Earthquake and Hurricane within a 4 day span – 2 things which happen once in a blue moon in the Northeast.

  3. stuart a August 27th, 2011 at 12:21 am

    again if the only optiosn were matt desalvo and chase wright to start fo rhillbilly maybe keeping him in the rotation would not be totally moronic.

    but they have options, sept 1 is in a few days. keeping this guy in the rotation is malpractice and people need to pay for this. aj can be as contrite as he wants. he is only because things have gotten so bad even a psychotic realizes he is horrible…

    he needs to be taken out of the rotation now, try warren, noesi, phelps, all relievers whatever this guy is a laughingstock joke….

    wonder if cashman has smoked the objectiv epipe recently? also this nonsene that this is a bad patch is not true. unless the patch has been almost 2 years then it is true.

    he has been horrible for 2 years. before then in year won he was decent…

  4. stuart a August 27th, 2011 at 12:22 am

    A Burnett
    (L, 9-11) 5.0 9 9 9 2 5 2 116-71 5.31

    that is his line tonight.. he is horrible……….

  5. scuzzles August 27th, 2011 at 12:24 am

    “I’ve got to get on good track” . We’ve heard this for 3 years now. The best thing about AJ brought to the Yanks is the pie. I think AJ should go and Swisher take over the pie duties…

  6. stuart a August 27th, 2011 at 12:25 am

    NY Yankees 78 51 .605

    711 runs scored

    520runs against

    +191

    yanks have a run differential of +191 with aj burnett in the rotation

  7. theREALkevin August 27th, 2011 at 12:31 am

    Apparently, Burnett has an infinite number of chances to stay in the rotation. Yanks have other options even if they wanted to stick with the 6 man rotation. Embarrassing that they keep trotting this guy out there. He doesn’t even deserve to play for Scranton.

  8. yankee 221 August 27th, 2011 at 12:38 am

    AJ now has the highest ERA in baseball among qualifiers at 5.31. Barely ahead of Jo-Jo Reyes at 5.26.

    Cashman’s “pedestrian” claim probably left him after the White Sox start, he has been anything but pedestrian, he has been the worst pitcher in baseball who qualify for the ERA title.

  9. m August 27th, 2011 at 12:43 am

    Bah, I don’t even think about AJ anymore.

    He won’t be pitching in a short series. Those games are too important.

    At the time, I thought it was the right call to stick AJ in their and take his medicine while saving the bullpen at the same time.

    But on second thought we won’t be playing all 5 games, I now think he should have went with an earlier hook.

    I honestly thought that he should have done it in the middle of the 6 run inning. Probably at 4-0. But then I thought about the long weekend.

    All for naught.

    Anyway, the Sox got smashed worse than us. That’s one positive. :)

  10. Dill Pickler August 27th, 2011 at 12:44 am

    Malpractice is right. This guy has got to go. You cannot keep trotting this bum out there and then expect people to believe you are trying to win. Because, if you’re trotting A.J. Burnett out there every 5th or 6th day, you are not trying to win. You (the front office) are trying to save face and help an athlete save face at the expense of the rest of the team and the fan base. The Yankees are in a fight for the division. They are one game behind with a month to go. They’ve already thrown way too many games away by trotting this bum out there. They simply can’t continue to handicap the team by pitching him. They can’t. It doesn’t matter if it makes the front office look stupid for signing him to that contract. It doesn’t matter if you hurt his feelings. He is a grown man. He’ll get over it. And to think that, if for some unimaginable reason, he is still around next year, that he won’t be able to pitch for you because you’ve hurt his feelings now, that’s just beyond ridiculous. If he is that mentally weak (and I believe he is) you have to just get rid of him now. Enough coddling of the tattooed headcase. Enough waiting for a miracle. Enough with the thinking that he’ll “come around” or “straighten himself out” because he has “great stuff.” He doesn’t. He has two pitches. One, a slider, he hangs way too often. The other, a straight fastball without movement, gets hammered with regularity. He doesn’t have great stuff. He is not mentally tough enough to pitch in NY. Get him out of here!

  11. NYYanksFan August 27th, 2011 at 12:46 am

    “We will continue to post the way we choose to post and as long as there are no egregious circumstances, we will all stick around”

    Which “we” are you speaking for?

  12. 4time August 27th, 2011 at 12:51 am

    Just shows you how braindead the Orioles are. They cancel both games tomorrow and reschedule them for Sunday.

    Other teams like Philly and Boston canceled Sunday’s game and scheduled DHs for Saturday and neither canceled their first games tomorrow yet. Mets canceled Saturdays and Sundays games at home and the Giants/Jets canceled their games, but that’s because mass transit in NY is shutdown tomorrow.

    The other 3 teams in the hurricane belt canceled their Sunday games YESTERDAY. The Orioles, on the other hand, scheduled a DOUBLEHEADER for Sunday, tonight.

    They have done the exact opposite of what all the other teams did, just for the hell of it to annoy us. I wonder if the players can even return to NY or if they are mandated to stay in Baltimore because the games are technically “scheduled” for Sunday.

    Bad job by MLB letting this idiotic franchise take control of this situation. They could have played 2 today, attempted to get 1 tomorrow, and played Monday, then they only had to worry about 1 game. Now, they have to worry about 3.

  13. Dill Pickler August 27th, 2011 at 12:53 am

    And, after they give Burnett a one-way ticket out of town, the next thing they have to do is get a reliable service to wake the offense up earlier. Because way too many times this year, and for the past four games in a row — against horrible competition — the bats have been completely asleep until way too late in the game. Day after day with these guys, you look up and it’s the 5th or 6th inning and the Yanks have one hit. Or two. And they’re getting shut out. Yes, they have the firepower to come back, as we saw Thursday, but they have now lost 3 of 4 games to the A’s and Orioles. Tonight they were dominated and shut down for more than 6 innings by Tommy Hunter. Yeah, Burnett lost the game and he is the story. But that also somewhat covers up the fact that the offense was completely embarrassed for more than six innings by another very mediocre pitcher. These guys need to wake up and realize that the game starts in the first inning, and that it’s not against the rules to actually get a lead early in the game. Good grief!

  14. sammiejohnson August 27th, 2011 at 12:57 am

    4time August 27th, 2011 at 12:51 am
    I wonder if the players can even return to NY or if they are mandated to stay in Baltimore because the games are technically “scheduled” for Sunday.

    _________________________

    From Chad’s post above:

    “Girardi said no players have asked to go home tomorrow. Based on the clubhouse, it sounds like the guys are planning to ride out the hurricane here in Baltimore.”

  15. DaveD August 27th, 2011 at 12:57 am

    “The other 3 teams in the hurricane belt canceled their Sunday games YESTERDAY. The Orioles, on the other hand, scheduled a DOUBLEHEADER for Sunday, tonight.”

    its unbelievable isn’t it?

    the hurricane is only going to arrive Saturday night and have its biggest impact on Sun, so what do they O’s do? They cancel tomorrow’s game without even attempting to get it in (and the rain isn’t even supposed to start to get heavy until later in the afternoon) and schedule 2 games on the day the hurricane is projected to wreak havoic.

  16. UnKnown August 27th, 2011 at 12:57 am

    Another thing that has the Yankees frustrated: They’ve been told that the Orioles want to play that Sept. 8 game at 7:05 p.m., leaving the Yankees with a night game immediately before they begin a West Coast trip.

    Oh a night game on top of it all. Sure thing Birds. I suppose you would like AJ to start that game as well. Enough is of enough of this crap from the O’s organization.

  17. UnKnown August 27th, 2011 at 12:59 am

    Probably be a good chemistry builder for the team to stay together during the Hurricane. Lord knows its going to be like Hurricane conditions at times in order to get through the month of October. Might as well start sticking together right now.

  18. Nick in SF August 27th, 2011 at 1:03 am

    ” Sure thing Birds. I suppose you would like AJ to start that game as well.”

    I laughed out loud. Gallows humor?

  19. vblade August 27th, 2011 at 1:03 am

    The O’s organization is like that bird crap that just sticks on your windshield and won’t go away. Appropriate considering their team name.

    The entire organization is a joke and an embarrassment to MLB and baseball in general, and will continue to be as long as Angelos and his cronies are in charge.

  20. I Am Winning August 27th, 2011 at 1:08 am

    I don’t bother to read AJs post game interviews anymore. It’s a bunch of “man’s,” “get er done next time’s,” “I’m going to get on a viscous role soon,” “my numbers don’t matter.” What a joke. I bought it the first 10 times he said it, now it’s been the same interview for the past 2 years and it’s getting old. The guy isn’t getting any better, he’s only getting worse.

    I thought because of his contract he should stay in the rotation, but at this point in time, it is an absolute tragedy watching this guy pitch every 5th day.

  21. UnKnown August 27th, 2011 at 1:09 am

    Gallows humor no doubt. Perfect timing for such a zing.

  22. 4 NYY August 27th, 2011 at 1:11 am

    Right AJ, don’t worry about your numbers, just get on track. ( like you’ve been doing )

    He couldn’t do any better in AAA, AA, or high A ball. Control stinks, command ( what command ?)

    The lump on his shoulders would work the same anywhere he pitches for Yanks.

    For anyone to think that because he won a Series game in2009 that he should be given these chances is ridiculously asinine.

  23. pft2 August 27th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    All I can say is the Red Sox must be eagerly awaiting AJ’s next start which is against them.

    Don’t let it happen Joe, by hook or by crook, get AJ to sign that phantom DL sheet and call up someone/anyone to take his place.

    The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. AJ never got out of his funk last year by making every start, and my bet is he won’t get out of it this year. Give him 2 weeks off and see how he does.

    Also, with potentially 4 games to be played in 2 days before the Red Sox series, now is the time for a bit of roster management creativity. The Red Sox have managed the art of the phantom DL to make sure they have enough arms, and this would be a good time to do the same, starting with AJ to the DL.

    As for Irene, this storm will be no bigger than a good size North Easter by the time it gets to NY. Just a different name and time (summer).

  24. Mike_Boston August 27th, 2011 at 2:52 am

    AJ can’t possibly make his next start can he?? Besides the 5 or more youngsters waiting in the wings, hell I’d even give Kei Igawa a start over him. AJ needs out of the rotation stat, there can’t be any debate now. DL the guy or demote him, nothing else is acceptable at this point.

  25. jacksquat August 27th, 2011 at 3:08 am

    Girardi said he plans to have Burnett makes his next start, which will likely come at Fenway. “With all these doubleheaders, we gotta play games,” Girardi said. “We need six men.”

    Currently it looks like Burnett would start the last game of the Boston series. That’s Sept 1, 40-man roster, he’ll have options, he just won’t use them.

  26. Gary August 27th, 2011 at 6:46 am

    Morning, well not much to dwell on last night, pretty ugly effort by AJ

    I was looking at ARod’s stats for career HR, will he overtake Bondszo?

    After last nights shot he need 135 to tie and 136 to pass, Arod is 35 the last three years he had 35, 30, 30 and in the injury shortened year this year 14 but he’s on the same pace vrs previous years to have ended with around 30 again if he didn’t get injured.

    Thome after age 35 has hit 152 and he is still playing

    Who knows about Bonds given the drug stories, but after 35 he hit 49,73,46,45,45,5,26 and 28 quiting at age 42

    Seems like ARod if he stays healthy will surpass the record easily, he might even have a shot at 800 if he plays into his 40′s

  27. vitus August 27th, 2011 at 7:24 am

    AJ is Lackey without the run support.

    At least Lackey can win some games but I
    can’t remember If AJ ever win one this month.

  28. NYY fan in NH August 27th, 2011 at 7:28 am

    If Girardi sends him out in Fenway for his next start, he won’t get passed 2-3 inning. Conceding any chance of a win. It’s the worst possible scenario. I’d rather take our chances with an unknown against the Sox than AJ. He’s gonna unravel faster than Irene heading into Canada.

  29. 108 stitches August 27th, 2011 at 7:36 am

    “It’s not acceptable”. Is he serious ? 90% of Burnett’s pitching hasn’t been acceptable since he signed his albatross contract. Multiple suggestions have been made but he doesn’t comprehend.
    The one constant is that he (might) start the game with a good inning before he begins his self destruction.
    Put him in the bullpen to throw one inning with no runners on base during a game when a 6th or 7th inning reliever is needed with a game already in hand. He’d be an expensive one inning man but everything else has been tried short of eating his contract or making him part of a deal.
    The confidence factor with him has been used up.

  30. Don Vito A. Bellamo August 27th, 2011 at 7:43 am

    “• Girardi said he plans to have Burnett makes his next start, which will likely come at Fenway. “With all these doubleheaders, we gotta play games,” Girardi said. “We need six men.””
    .
    Captain Idiot says we gotta play games? REALLY ? We need six men. REALLY ???? We’ll then, perfect logic says that if you have to play games and you need six men, then AJ Burnett MUST be one of them. What a complete DOLT ! Newsflash to JARHEAD: THERE ARE MANY BETTER PITCHERS in the Yankees Organization than AJ. MANY !!!! How about starting one of them? If AJ starts a game against Boston, we should all bet our life savings on the Red Sox. When we win that bet, we will finally see something good about AJ pitching for the Yankees.

  31. Yankee Trader August 27th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Good morning.

    Burnett lives 30 minutes north of Baltimore. Cashman and the Yankees need to find some excuse to send him home while still in Maryland. Just spin it as for personal reasons. Rosters expand anyway in 5 days. If necessary throw Noesi out there in Fenway for 3 innings.

    Burnett and the Yankees need to part ways, but it’s unlikely that will happen until the offseason.

    As to him saying he needs to pitch inside, with a record 20 wild pitches, if he pitches inside he’ll set a record for it batsman. He’s of no use as a starter or a reliever.

    Send him home. If necessary bring him back when rosters expand and let him ride the bench until the last game of the regular season.

  32. Yankee Trader August 27th, 2011 at 7:56 am

    record for *hit* batsman

  33. Yankee Trader August 27th, 2011 at 8:07 am

    First game of the DH Sunday should be very interesting with it calling for winds>30mph.

  34. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    YT-

    Saw the video this AM. thanks.

    I’m with you on Burnett.

  35. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    It’s not acceptable …..but apparently the Yanks are going to continue accepting it.

  36. joeman August 27th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    # blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:19 am

    It’s not acceptable …..but apparently the Yanks are going to continue accepting it.
    —————————————-
    could be wrong but already in the playoffs had a lot to do with whats going on

  37. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    Joeman,

    That and his paycheck…..Cashman can say all he wants that the contract has.nothing to do with it but we all know.that’s not true.

  38. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    I’m not questioning AJ’s work ethic.

    He worked hard to straighten himself out in the OS.

    Unfortunately it hasn’t really worked.

    I do not believe what ails him can be fixed in season.

    IMO he needs to reinvent the way he pitches.

    As Blake has said numerous times what Burnett could get away with when his FB was ++ he cannot get away with now.

    He needs to add in his CU more and locate better or his record of mediocrity will just continue.

    I’m not sure AJ can do it at all since a serious attempt to fix him was
    already undertaken this year.

    Might be best for all concerned to just move on.

    Eat a significant portion of the contract and say adios.

  39. Vineyard Yankee August 27th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Funny stuff……………

    Nobody is going to want AJ and his huge salary.

    No one is going to give up anything of value for him given his performance

    Nobody wants a malcontent on their team cursing the manager and punching walls.

    AJ can’t command his stuff, too many BB’s, WP’s, HR’s, can’t hold runners on, folds his tent when things get tough.

    We are stuck with him for 2 more years of fun, get used to it.

  40. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    MtU,

    The biggest thing is that he just can’t get ahead and he can’t throw quality strikes……he’s always behind in counts which makes his secondary stuff less effective. AJ used to be able to throw it down the middle 2-0 and get away with it……he can’t anymore and its killing him.

  41. MG August 27th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    I don’t know why it’s taken Burnett so long to figure out he needs to pitch inside to have a chance to win in the majors.

    He throws 2 pitches-a tailing fastball and a breaking pitch.

    Throwing fastballs away from right handed batters that tails back into their happy zone is a recipe to get hammered.

    If he would pitch inside and make batters somewhat uncomfortable he could freeze them with the breaking ball that starts inside and breaks over the plate.

    The way he’s been pitching it’s easy to lay off the breaking ball because batters are comfortable at the plate and can sit on the tailing fastball, there is really no reason to think about chasing the breaking ball.

    Talk about a lack of pitching instinct, Burnett, while probably a nice guy, has learned nothing sitting next to guys like Halladay, CC, and Andy Pettitte, all of whom have very high pitching IQs

  42. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    VY-

    I don’t like the idea of keeping a guy around who is not performing.

    We have too much talent on the way to let an underachiever take up a
    valuable roster spot.

    If they can’t trade him they should just eat the remainder of the contract.

    Sometimes mistakes are made and it would appear that AJ is one of them. Look at Pavano. Look at Igawa.

    He tried his best but he just isn’t good enough.

    It’s time to part ways. I can’t see where he fits in going forward.

  43. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    “Nobody is going to want AJ and his huge salary.”

    Nope but if you make it so that they aren’t taking on but say 33% of it…..then maybe. That’s what the Yanks shoukd explore this winter…..if they eat 20 million dollars on his deal is their some team that will take him? I don’t know……but Id find out.

  44. Vineyard Yankee August 27th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    ‘IMO he needs to reinvent the way he pitches’

    ============

    Good thought only thing is he will be 35 when he comes to camp next year, repeating his delivery is a problem for him. His fastball is not what it used to be and he has no idea where his CB goes. He needs lots of help, where he gets it from is another thing all together.

  45. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:41 am

    MG,

    You have to have pretty good.command to effectively pitch inside…..its more dangerous both because you can just miss a little and you’re in a lot of hitters wheel houses and also because you miss a little the other way and the guy is walkig to first on a HBP. Its extremely effective if you fan do it…….but AJ doesn’t have good enough command to do it……though it absolutely would help him a ton.

  46. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Blake-

    Even though I can’t see it try Burnett out in the pen just to see if we get lucky.

    If he can’t be traded in the OS or re-invent his style of pitching then I favor DFA’ing him.

    He’s gonna clog up the roster. All he’s doing right now it breathing oxygen and taking up space.

    That’s unproductive. It needs to change.

    You can’t get blood out of a stone.

    No matter how much Cashman wants to try.

    Cut your loses and just move on.

  47. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 8:45 am

    VY-

    I agree that this is a very old dog to try to learn new tricks.

    Though unlikely it may still be possible.

    The only other option is to just say adios.

    I’m really not against that either but I think the brass wants it’s money’s worth.

    Trouble is I’m not sure how they get it.

    ;)

  48. Vineyard Yankee August 27th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    MTU August 27th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    Agree 100 %. So why beat yourself (The Yankees) up over it ? The constant we can fix him, he has to pitch to work out his control issues etc. etc. etc. is tiring and old.

    I’m with you, suck up the $ 33 million and move forward. I think Noesi right now would fill his rotation spot just fine and like has been said there are an abundance of talented prospects inches away, just waiting their turns to show what they can do.

    Ala Nike, ‘Just do it baby’ !

  49. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    MTU,

    The Yankees just wont admit defeat on AJ……and probably up until now.they had no reason to….but soon he will only have 2 years left on his deal and the farm system is starting to push him ……does anyone think Noesi couldn’t pitch as well or.likely better? I just don’t see how they can hold the line much longer……

  50. MG August 27th, 2011 at 8:50 am

    blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:41 am
    MG,

    You have to have pretty good.command to effectively pitch inside…..its more dangerous both because you can just miss a little and you’re in a lot of hitters wheel houses and also because you miss a little the other way and the guy is walkig to first on a HBP. Its extremely effective if you fan do it…….but AJ doesn’t have good enough command to do it……though it absolutely would help him a ton.
    ——————————————
    blake, that is true but he winds up in the batter’s wheelhouse way to often pitching away when the ball tails back over the plate.

    that’s the Burnett conundrum-you’re screwed no matter what you do when you can no longer bring it and 95+ on a consistent basis.

    At the end of the day it’s pretty hopeless, isn’t it?

  51. Vineyard Yankee August 27th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:36 am

    I am of the opinion that doing that in theory is fine, trying to work it out to make it attractive for another team. Even if you eat some of the salary you still won’t get anything of value in return. All the wrangling you will need to do to twist someones arm to take him at such and such a reduction in salary is alot of work for ? ? ?

    Let him finish out the year by being ‘on the team’, give Noesi a couple of starts in his place now (giving AJ a mental health break like the ChiSox did to Adam Dunn) and then in the offseason just say goodbye.

  52. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 8:53 am

    Blake-

    When it comes to big money they sometimes hold on a very long time.

    But the tipping point might be coming.

    AJ is the most expensive #5 starter in baseball.

    He is threatenining to become the most expensive mop up man in history.

    I hope he finds himself but I have serious doubts he will.

    For the moment he needs to be pulled from the rotation as soon as it’s feasible. Let’s at least minimize the damage for the time being.

  53. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    MG,

    Yea…..the things he needs to.do to be successful again Im just not sure he’s capable of……Id love to be wrong but to me he’s a guy that never had to learn to pitch and never had to learn to repeat his delivery because his stuff simply was so good that he could be successful without doing those things. Now that the stuff is fading its becoming harder and harder on him.

  54. Yankee Trader August 27th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    20 wild pitches. No way that Burnett can effectively pitch inside. After the 1st hit batter , he’ll be warned, and thrown out soon after!! Hmm might be worth it! :)

  55. blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Vineyard,

    I wouldn’t expect anything in return…..saving 10-15 millions bucks is all you coukd hope for.

  56. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Blake-

    Does AJ have the tools to make the necessary changes ?

    When the Moose lost it you knew you were dealing with a guy with a high pitching IQ and a lot of weapons.

    When Andy had to adjust the same.

    But here ….. I just don’t know. Guess we’ll find out.

    :(

  57. MTU August 27th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    New thread ==>

  58. blake August 27th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I think thee are parallels between AJ and Tex’s LH swing. Both could be successful when they were young and had incredible ability but neither is particularly suited to work with diminished physical ability. Tex could get away with that swing in his.prime……when he had great timing and his reflexes were tops……what concerns me is when that starts to slip…..same with AJ and his velocity

  59. MG August 27th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I don’t know why the Yankees can’t just say they are in a pennant race and it’s past the point in the season where patience with any player struggling to perform at a major league level is tolerable.

    It’s one thing for a player like Gardner to go 4-40, he only bats 4 times a game and even though he’s been awful it’s tolerable if he’s batting 9th, at least for now because his defense is still good.

    With a starting pitcher, however, taking your team out of 20% of the games is just not acceptable and makes no sense to me or the other guys out on the field.

  60. blake August 27th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    MTU,

    No idea…..his problem is that he can’t repeat his delivery but he never coukd…….so that leaves him with much less of a foundation to adapt than a guy like Mussina.

  61. Yankee Trader August 27th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    I don’t think this will help Burnett, but it worked for John Smoltz.

    In 1991 Smoltz had a 2-11 record midway thru the season, worked with a sports psychologist and went 12-2 the rest of the season. In fact the psychologist would sit behind home plate at Braves games to serve as a focal point and as reinforcement for Smoltz.

  62. Vineyard Yankee August 27th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    blake August 27th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Sounds good but wouldn’t you think other teams will be reluctant to take him even at a reduced price knowing his history and that The Yankees want to get rid of him ?

  63. Dill Pickler August 27th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    Gary: “Who knows about Bonds given the drug stories, but after 35 he hit 49,73,46,45,45,5,26 and 28 quiting at age 42″

    If you “don’t know” that Bonds used PED’s, then you’re an (unkind word). Players don’t just all of a sudden in their late 30′s become stronger. Bonds had never before hit 50 homers before he jumped to an astronomical 73, a number only approached by known steroid users McGwire and Sosa. It’s not a question.

    Look at what other, non-enhanced greats did after the age of 35:

    Aaron (after hitting 44 hrs at age 35): 38, 47, 34, 40, 20
    Ruth (49 at age 35): 46, 41, 34, 22, 6
    Mays (52 at 34, 37 at 35): 22, 23, 13, 28, 18
    Griffey (35 at 35): 27, 30, 18, 19, 0
    F. Robinson (28 at 35): 19, 30, 22, 2, 9
    Killebrew (49 at 33, 41 at 34, 28 at 35): 26, 5, 13, 14, retired
    Jackson: (41 at 34, 15 at 35 in 94 games): 39, 14, 25, 27, 18
    Schmidt (40 at 33, 36 at 34, 33 at 35): 37, 35, 12, 6, retired
    Mantle: 22, 18, retired at 36

    Bondszo went from 37 at age 33, to 34 at age 34, to suddenly 49 at age 35, to 73 at age 36. Then 46, 45 and 45. Yeah. Right. And take it even further: He hit 73 in only 476 at-bats, and then 46 in 403 at-bats, 45 in 390 at-bats and 45 in 373 at-bats.

    Bondszo cheated. End of story.

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