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Pregame notes: Short-handed heading to Boston

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Aug 29, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Alex Rodriguez jammed his thumb making a play at third base in Minneapolis. He aggravated the injury swinging a bat here in Baltimore. Although an MRI came back clean, the Yankees aren’t certain they’ll have their third baseman at all this week in Boston.

“I think it’s really questionable,” Joe Girardi said. “But let’s just see.”

Rodriguez saw hand specialist Dr. Melvin Rosenwasser, and Girardi said the Yankees just have to make sure the thumb is ready to go. It bothers him more swinging than fielding, and Girardi doesn’t believe it’s the kind of injury that will linger. Once it’s healed, it’s healed.

Meanwhile, the Yankees are heading to Boston for a key three-game series, and their third baseman isn’t the only concern. Derek Jeter seems better, but obviously he’s a little banged up, and he’s spent a ton of time in the trainer’s room this afternoon. The Yankees bullpen is also short-handed with Hector Noesi optioned to Triple-A to make room for Freddy Garcia.

“It is a little bit (of a concern), knowing how some of the games can get up north,” Girardi said. “With Freddy tonight, it is a little bit of a concern. We’re going to have to deal with it.”

• Noesi has been optioned, and so he won’t be available for a call-up on September 1. Demoted players have to stay in the minors for 10 days. In the case of September, a player has to stay in the minors either 10 days or until the end of that particular minor league season. So Noesi won’t be back — barring injury — until September 6.

• Without Noesi, the Yankees are carrying a six-man bullpen, none of whom is a true long man. Girardi said the bullpen is plenty deep enough for tonight, and he’ll adjust if necessary the next few days. Just a guess, but I’d say this basically assures either Lance Pendleton or George Kontos or one of the Triple-A starters getting an immediate September call-up to fill that long-man void.

• Girardi on Derek Jeter: “He was walking around fine today. Walking a lot better than I would have anticipated wnen I saw him walk out last night. He healed up pretty good, so I can use him in case of an emergency.”

• Both Pedro Feliciano and Damaso Marte have suffered setbacks. They pitched on Thursday, but they felt soreness and have been shutdown. Girardi said it’s still very unlikely that either will pitch in the big leagues this season. If Feliciano ends up having surgery, Girardi acknowledged that it could be career-ending.

• Tonight, Freddy Garcia’s pitch count could be a “a little short” but nothing significant. He’s still pretty stretched out after that one rehab game. “I’m not sure what to expect,” Girardi said. “I feel better that he threw better Monday in Scranton, was able to use all of his pitches and that his finger is healed. But when a guy hasn’t pitched off a mound in a while, you worry a little about control and stamina.”

• Girardi was asked a little bit about September call-ups today, but he wouldn’t give any indication about who they’re planning to promote. He didn’t commit to any specific pitchers or hitters, and didn’t say whether they planned to add a third catcher.

J.J. Hardy SS
Nick Markakis RF
Adam Jones CF
Vladimir Guerrero DH
Matt Wieters C
Mark Reynolds 1B
Ryan Adams 2B
Nolan Reimold LF
Robert Andino 3B

Associated Press photos



23 Responses to “Pregame notes: Short-handed heading to Boston”

  1. m August 29th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    You chose a picture of an old and haggard looking A-rod. I see what you did there! Is that in the manual Pete left behind?

    j/k, j/k

  2. Betsy August 29th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    Poor Feliciano………….you never want anyone’s career to end like this.

  3. m August 29th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    No A-rod? Silver lining: one less target for Boston pitching.

  4. Chad Jennings August 29th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    It’s actually one of the few recent horizontal pictures of him that I haven’t used yet.

    Also, I forgot to mention this… Teixeira said that he occasionally decides not to take BP just to stay fresh. He compared it to sitting out a day game after a night game. I doubt it’s always listed on the batting practice sheet — he probably just skips his group — but today, the groups were short-handed as it was, so Teixeira’s name wasn’t on there.

  5. Bo knows August 29th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Re Post

    UZR is totally messed up, most “stats guys” will tell you that. anyone that points at it like it means anything is a fool.

    But I thought UZR is a part of calculating an advanced stat like WAR as per Fangraphs.

    Granderson is competing against players like Ellsbury and Pedrioa in WAR that have rediculously high UZR and his is the worst in the AL.

    Does not compute

    I’m not trying to create controversy or lobbying for the MVP. Players have been jobbed many times as in Jeter.

  6. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    I hope Garcia is very economical with his pitches tonight. Who would the long man be tonight?
    Or would they just piece it together?

  7. Bo knows August 29th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    If I didn’t know better I’d say the beard is turning grey. Nah, can’t be.

  8. LGY August 29th, 2011 at 6:33 pm

    The graph above shows that Burnett’s fastball velocity drops a good two miles an hour during the course of a typical start, peaking right around 94 mph through his first 30 pitches. Unsurprisingly, his strikeout rate dips later in the game and he gets hit harder.

  9. 4 NYY August 29th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Grandy HAS carried the team more than anyone.

  10. Irreverent Discourse August 29th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Bo Knows – But I thought UZR is a part of calculating an advanced stat like WAR as per Fangraphs.

    It is, that is why you have to understand and know the stats you are referencing. UZR is pretty jacked up… but it’s only a piece of the pie when it comes to WAR. It is unfortunately also the only way they have figured out how to “formulate” fielding range. It’s highly inefficient and prone to wild fluxuations from year to year… but unfortunately it’s the best way they have to quantify runs saved in a defensive environment.

    Also, people still fail to understand that single year WAR is not meant to measure ability, but is to determine what a player has done in a given year. If you are looking at ability, you need 3 years fielding data. If you are looking at what a player did in 2010, you look only at the data from 2010. If UZR is high or lower than what a players true ability is for a given year, it may be due to luck, the player playing better or worse than normal. or whatever. The same holds true for offensive stats. Players sometimes perform better or worse than what the multi-year data say is their true ability.

    Once FieldFX comes out, they will have to spend a few years working out the new defensive runs environment and with any luck it should paint a much more accurate picture.

    Sabermetrics is not so much the field of “answers”… but rather methods to find an answer.

  11. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Banuelos retired the first 11 before a walk and hit batter. trikes out the first two in inning before trouble, but got the groudout on a nice play at 2nd by Russo.

    62 pitches, 36 strikes, 7 groundouts, 2 flyouts


    The opposition pitcher is tony Pena, Jr. he could give the old man an up close and personal on Montero and Banuelos.

  12. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Irreverent Discourse

    Who is the replacement player (in the WAR evaluation)? Is it an average Joe Schmo, is it a minor leaguer called up?

    Not being facetious, genuinely asking.

  13. jjk August 29th, 2011 at 6:43 pm

    Six available relievers for one game equates to a “short” bullpen? Come on!

  14. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Banuelos, 5 innings, 0 hits, 0 runs, 1 walk, 5 strikeouts, 1 hit batter. 8 groundouts, 2 flyouts

  15. Villa Nova-Ya August 29th, 2011 at 6:49 pm


    That’s the Banuelos we’ve been waiting for, I think.

  16. MoRings42 August 29th, 2011 at 6:50 pm

    a jammed thumb, lol. Ok Pavano.

  17. mick August 29th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    I’ve seen this offense go ice cold.
    betsy they lead the majors in runs scored.

  18. GreenBeret7 August 29th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    no hitter gone on a soft ground single through the middle

  19. J. Alfred Prufrock August 29th, 2011 at 7:06 pm

    MoRings42 August 29th, 2011 at 6:50 pm
    a jammed thumb, lol. Ok Pavano.


    What’s Alex got in common with Pavano??

  20. Irreverent Discourse August 29th, 2011 at 7:07 pm

    Villa Nova-Ya – a replacement level offensive player is one who produces at 80% of the league average, if i remember correctly.

    there are literally tons of articles on “The Hardball times” and FanGraphs that explain replacement value, win shares and all that jazz… If you don’t find any by tomorrow and you see me around let me know, I’ll look some up. I’m out of here for the evening.

  21. Irreverent Discourse August 29th, 2011 at 7:08 pm

    Also, the replacement levels are set by position, so a replacement level SS is going to hit much worse than a replacement level 1B.

  22. Bo knows August 29th, 2011 at 7:23 pm

    Sabermetrics is not so much the field of “answers”… but rather methods to find an answer.


    Okay, I agree. The problem is as I see it a lack of context and I don’t see how you can input that information ie tie game in the ninth, man on third, one out and Swisher strikes out overswinging. A SO is just another out except when it’s in the middle of a rally and so on. Granderson loses the ball in Tampa or the Swisher thing the other night.


    From a very good article by Joe Pawlikowski on Fangraph

    The truth is that no single stat can perfectly relate a player’s on-field value. While the WAR framework is strong, it’s only as good as the inputs. If UZR is inaccurately assessing Granderson, due to unique positioning, then it won’t properly rate him among his peers. As with every player evaluation issue, we should look beyond the surface and find the truth in every area we can. And who knows: maybe UZR does have it right on Granderson. Maybe he has declined precipitously this year. But with all the questions surrounding that assessment, including observations to the contrary and Granderson’s superb flanker, it’s likely that we have to look beyond WAR to get at true grasp of Granderson’s place in the MVP conversation.

    But it’s – a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. You have the trumpeters from up north tootling WAR as leveling the playing field re Ellsbury and Pedrioa vs Granderson.

    By the way, elminating all the “Stupids, Ignorants and Idiots” makes for a far better discourse.

  23. Bring in the Goose August 29th, 2011 at 9:01 pm

    Glass Alex

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