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Burnett: “It’s not out of my hands”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 01, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

For just a moment, A.J. Burnett got caught up in saying the thing he’s expected to say. After another round of questions about the rotation, and another series of questions about his struggles, Burnett was once again saying that Joe Girardi makes the decisions, and when the Yankees cut their rotation from five to six, Burnett won’t have a say in it.

“That’s out of my hands,” he said.

Then he stopped himself.

“It’s not out of my hands,” he said. “Let me rephrase that. It’s not out of my hands. I can definitely take this opportunity to change some minds, for sure.”

Burnett starts tonight, and the easy thing to do is write him off. In fact, there’s little reason to do anything but write him off. He’s been worse this season than he was last season, and last season seemed as bad as it could get.

“Believe it or not, I go out there every time with confidence,” he said. “It’s been an inning here or there, little things here or there. I do still believe in myself or else I wouldn’t be here. I don’t think I’m the type of person to waste my time or anybody else’s time, so I’m definitely still all about myself and still believe in myself, for sure.”

In the past week, Burnett has worked on eliminating some of the movement in his delivery, doing less with his hands in hopes of maintaining his arm slot. Yesterday, though, Burnett engaged in a discussion about learning to pitch with diminished velocity. He’s still pitching at 93, 94 — pretty good velocity for most pitchers — but that’s a big difference from 98, 99. It leaves him less room for error, especially up in the zone.

“I always said, this pitching is for the birds,” Burnett said. “But you know what, I’m a pitcher. So it ain’t for the birds. It’s for me. There’s times where I’m going to feel good so I can just rear back and let it loose and just throw it, but for the most part, I need to stay down in the zone more. I’ve been up. I’ve been thigh-high all year. Early in the year I was knee high and I was pitching, and just get back to that. It’s minor things, and I wouldn’t do it if I weren’t comfortable doing it.”

Bottom line, everyone involved knows Burnett’s situation. He’s been too bad to be reliable, but there’s still enough talent to wonder what might happen. Is tonight a big start for him?

“It ain’t as big as the ’09 World Series,” he said. “So I’m going to attack it as my next start. We made a lot of adjustments, Larry and I, and I’m just going to go at it with an open mind again. I’m not going to put added pressure on myself. My numbers ain’t going to get dramatically better no matter how good I pitch the rest of the year, so it’s not about the numbers, it’s about getting on track. And it starts first pitch of the game, first batter of the game.”

Here’s Burnett talking before last night’s game.

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538 Responses to “Burnett: “It’s not out of my hands””

  1. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Scott Proctor will arrive today and his arm will arrive next week. Gift wrapped from Torre.

  2. blake September 1st, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Yes AJ….its not out of your hands…..go out there and earn your spot for a change.

  3. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:08 am

    freudian slip? out of his hands means the decision is made, right?

  4. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:11 am

    “I can definitely take this opportunity to change some minds, for sure.”
    =====================================
    their minds are made up
    but why is he sad unless he’s going to pen?
    now i’m confused.

  5. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 9:14 am

    For the sake of sanity and the chances of winning a WS, I am praying to the gods of pitching to let them strike AJ with a lightning bolt of greatness. He still pisses me off but the Yankees NEED him to do well. And by well, I mean a quality F’in start.

  6. JobaTipsHisCap September 1st, 2011 at 9:14 am

    I would be shocked if he can last 4 innings, no kidding.
    yes, he’s written off, for sure.

  7. Wang IS Taiwan September 1st, 2011 at 9:15 am

    First of all — kate, thanks for No Crying in Baseball. I miss THAT Tom Hanks.

    Secondly, how can AJ seriously say he “pitches”. He doesn’t pitch. He rears back, throws and prays the ball is somewhere in the vicinity of the strike zone.

    I can’t watch the game. It’s demoralizing to see him with his “hangdog” posture.

  8. upstate kate September 1st, 2011 at 9:15 am

    nicely put Sunny

  9. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 9:16 am

    No lie-I actually had a dream last night that I was watching AJ pitch a shutout. The only conclusion that I’m drawing is that I watch way too much TV. :P

  10. Gary September 1st, 2011 at 9:21 am

    “It’s not out of my hands,” he said. “Let me rephrase that. It’s not out of my hands. I can definitely take this opportunity to change some minds, for sure.”

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    AJ I think everyone is pulling for you, but it’s going to take more than one start to change minds. Unless you can perform consistently at the necessary level it’s just random noise in your performance. Same as Posada, Joe has the tough conversation, makes the tough conversation and sentences him to the penal colony. He plays like Cr#p all year then has one good game and it’s the second coming of the prophet. Joe puts him back in the lineup and then he just returns to playing like Cr#p again. No it’s going to take alot more than one start.

  11. filthy slider September 1st, 2011 at 9:22 am

    Why isn’t anyone talking about the way Cano dogged it down the line in the 8th inning. Pretty sure Jeter would have beat it out for an infield hit. Cano was out by 15 ft. Great hitter, great fielder but a dog when he assumes he’s out. Infielders know they don’t have to rush a throw with Cano running.

  12. pat September 1st, 2011 at 9:22 am

    swbyankeesTTSWB Yankees Blog

    Montero, Laird, Dickerson, Golson, Pendleton, Laffey, Raul Valdes, Garrison, Brackman. That’s the list of players I’d say could get call. And Noesi of course.

  13. Gary September 1st, 2011 at 9:23 am

    tough conversation > tough decision

  14. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Thanks kate. :)

  15. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 9:27 am

    The only call Laffey should get is one from his agent telling him he’s been released.

  16. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Good stuff about AJ’s stuff…

    http://yankeesfansunite.wordpr.....tts-stuff/

  17. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 9:30 am

    I do believe that AJ this winter (in the event the Yankees are unable to unload his albatross like contract) needs to develop a third pitch and learn the art of pitching. Perhaps a nice winter confab with Freddy Garcia would be helpful.

  18. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Tex is just saying Beckett takes too long out there….why all the hoopla?
    If enough complain, maybe they do something about it.

  19. Triple Short of a Cycle September 1st, 2011 at 9:31 am

    mick,

    Then why not come out and say it? He was talking about guys not being able to throw strikes which doesn;t apply to Beckett

  20. Giuseppe Franco September 1st, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Somebody in the last thread said it best, Teixiera is getting scorned here because of the season he’s having.

    If Granderson had made the very same point, nobody here would be throwing rotten tomatoes at him.

  21. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 1st, 2011 at 9:15 am
    First of all ? kate, thanks for No Crying in Baseball. I miss THAT Tom Hanks.

    **************************

    Great movie. I was going to agree with you and say he hasn’t really made anything decent in a while, but then I remembered Toy Story 3. :) So, there’s that. ;)

  22. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Who wants to bet the Yanks drop a $60-65 mil posting fee to get Yu Darvish?

  23. Triple Short of a Cycle September 1st, 2011 at 9:37 am

    sunny615,

    Who wants to bet the Yanks drop a $60-65 mil posting fee to get Yu Darvish?

    I wish

  24. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 9:37 am

    Tex is just saying Beckett takes too long out there?.why all the hoopla?
    If enough complain, maybe they do something about it.

    ______________________

    Try just doing your own job, and if worry about the other guy after that. You wanna not have to wait around on Beckett, try doing something about it. Get a hit. Take a walk even, but whatever it is, don’t run your mouth after you perform like that against him.
    Had someone from Boston made this comment, this board would be filled with vitirol and damnation over the “cry baby” attitude, and the “classless” way they handle the post-game conferences.
    But, now he’s just saying “Beckett takes too long”? Please. Get a hit, then run your mouth.

  25. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 9:38 am

    This might be the first time I’ve ever seen the Yankees as the 2-1 underdogs in a game.

  26. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 9:38 am

    This is a little depressing:

    RiverAveBlues Eduardo Nunez has appeared in more games for the 2011 Yankees than Alex Rodriguez. Still has fewer PAs than A-Rod though.

  27. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Who wants to bet the Yanks drop a $60-65 mil posting fee to get Yu Darvish?
    ——————————-

    Not me. I think that’s exactly what’s going to happen. It’s probably a mistake, but hey, it’s not my money.

  28. 108 stitches September 1st, 2011 at 9:40 am

    Same old dry crap from Burnett. He hasn’t got a clue what will happen from the moment the ball leaves his hand. The bullpen should be on high alert from his first throw – - not to be confused with a pitch.

  29. ac1 September 1st, 2011 at 9:44 am

    without noesi, they really need a long man in the pen tonight….
    And they need to find a second lefty ‘specialist’
    Glad to see Montero and Proctor, and I guess Dickerson is ok (rather see Golson or Mesa), but I dont see Laird getting much playing time with Nunez/Chavez/Posada/Swisher being able to back up 3b and 1b.

  30. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:44 am

    triple

    Then why not come out and say it? He was talking about guys not being able to throw strikes which doesn;t apply to Beckett
    =================================
    4-5 hour games can be great….last night’s was too long, esp when you lose.
    beckett should be clocked, who the hell is he to get away with his tactics?
    then they step out of the box to break his rhythm and it makes the game even longer.
    most players don’t want to rat out others in the press lest they become a target
    his message was heard and others should complain maybe selig wakes up…

  31. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:45 am

    without noesi, they really need a long man in the pen tonight….
    And they need to find a second lefty ‘specialist’
    Glad to see Montero and Proctor,
    ======================
    Proctor is your man.

  32. ac1 September 1st, 2011 at 9:45 am

    forget Selig. Joe Torre is in the MLB office now. Go to him…

  33. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:46 am

    they cant enforce that rule, it’s absurd.

  34. Triple Short of a Cycle September 1st, 2011 at 9:47 am

    WHy all the Darvish hate on here?

  35. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 9:47 am

    sunny615,

    Who wants to bet the Yanks drop a $60-65 mil posting fee to get Yu Darvish?

    ______________

    As an aside to this, you should go back and read the blog the weeks leading up to DiceK. Read all about how he had pinpoint control, and a fastball in the upper 90′s. Read all about his ability to go deep into games, and how he is a national hero. Read all about how he has Pedro’s aggressiveness and Maddux control. Read about how he has five different arm angles and an amazing ways to put batters away.
    It’s a good read, and good insight to all of the same exact things being said about Yu. He’s a bigger kid, for sure, but the same hype surrounds him, and he hasn’t done what DiceK did in the same league. There are tons of guys already here with mid-90′s fastball and great command.
    Like CJ Wilson, who we know can pitch in America.

  36. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 9:50 am

    Mick,

    Are you seriously saying that the reason the Yankees have not gotten to Beckett is because he takes too long? If that were the case, don’t you think every other pitcher in baesball would employ the same exact tactic? He takes long for sure, but the onus is on them to adjust, not him to change.

  37. JobaTipsHisCap September 1st, 2011 at 9:50 am

    I don’t know how they feel.
    As a Yankee fan, I feel embarrassed and shamed right now.

  38. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 9:50 am

    He’s a bigger kid, for sure, but the same hype surrounds him, and he hasn’t done what DiceK did in the same league. There are tons of guys already here with mid-90?s fastball and great command.
    Like CJ Wilson, who we know can pitch in America.

    Do what Dice-K did in the NPB? Yu has been better. He is taller and less fat. Dice-K had an aversion to contact, no one could know he would react like that in the majors. CJ Wilson does not have great command.

  39. Bronx Jeers September 1st, 2011 at 9:51 am

    “I always said, this pitching is for the birds,” Burnett said. “But you know what, I’m a pitcher. So it ain’t for the birds. It’s for me.

    —————————

    Can somebody please translate this for me? It sounds like something a schizophrenic would say.

  40. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:53 am

    Are you seriously saying that the reason the Yankees have not gotten to Beckett
    ==================================
    Where did I say that, Howard?
    I said he takes too long which is what Tex alluded to w/out mentioning his name.
    Everybody knows it. Why have a rule that they can’t enforce?

  41. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 9:53 am

    And for all the hype, Daisuke was above average in his first year, and certainly showed an ability to strike MLB hitters out, and had a super above average (if lucky) second year. Every season after that he has faced injuries.

  42. mick September 1st, 2011 at 9:54 am

    “I always said, this pitching is for the birds,” Burnett said. “But you know what, I’m a pitcher. So it ain’t for the birds. It’s for me
    ======================
    He’s saying he wants to pitch for the Birds.

  43. pat September 1st, 2011 at 9:56 am

    “WHy all the Darvish hate on here?”

    Consider it Igawa and DiceK whiplash. Not so much hate as skepticism

  44. pat September 1st, 2011 at 9:59 am

    SI_JoeLemireJoe Lemire
    Today’s Globe: “Gathright was playing for the independent Yuma Scorpions under manager Jose Canseco, who broke news of signing on Twitter.”Everything about that sentence is priceless.

    :lol:

  45. hardwired7 September 1st, 2011 at 9:59 am

    I think AJ is saying he’s a bird because every time he pitches he lays an egg.

  46. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:00 am

    He does look like Big Bird.

  47. Phranchise September 1st, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Darvish by all accounts has similar stuff to a young AJ Burnett. He has no MLB experience. He follows a long line of Dice K’s, Nomos, Igawas, Irabus, Kurodas, etc. He will command major money for his age. He is a luxury signing, not someone you can feel 100% confident he will excel and excel in NY. If I am the Yankees would I go for him, sure. Not as a solution to this staff though. CJ Wilson at least has pitched in this league with success even if he doesn’t thrill you. But if Darvish is brought in to compete for the 4th or 5th starter role next year and try to develop him over the long term why not? We already threw money out the window with Feliciano, Marte and Soraino. The money for those three, would rather have Darvish. He has unique skills and could very well be your Ichiro or Matsui players of the hitters rather than the rest that have failed.

  48. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Consider it Igawa and DiceK whiplash. Not so much hate as skepticism

    ______________

    Exactly. All I’m saying is go read it. All the same hype surrounded DiceK. Right up until the Red Sox won the bid, then he was just another overrated Japanese pitcher, which in the end, he was. He threw too many balls, had very bad command, and was afraid of American hitters. Which he should be, because in the end, the only Americans he had faced outside of the WBC, was the washed up, retiring guys that go there to extend their careers.

  49. Triple Short of a Cycle September 1st, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Consider it Igawa and DiceK whiplash. Not so much hate as skepticism

    Nobody thought Igawa was any good anyway when we got him. At best they saw him as a number 5 in the NL. Dice K was good the first couple of years and Darvish is younger then Dice K was I believe and better

  50. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Bronx Jeers September 1st, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Can somebody please translate this for me? It sounds like something a schizophrenic would say.

    ************************

    I took it as him saying that Big Bird can pitch. :)

  51. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:02 am

    Really , why would he say it’s out of his hands unless he knows he is out of the rotation.?

    All along I thought he would get a chance to redeem himself the rest of Sept. and they put Phil in the pen.

  52. Phranchise September 1st, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Darvish has a more projectable frame, he has more overpowering stuff than Dice K and is younger. From a prospect standpoint he is much cleaner to translate to the US market. But can he pitch to more disciplined hitters. Remember Dice K’s crazy Gyro Ball? What happened was it was nothing special and MLB hitters for the most part can hit some offspeed pitches and not swing massively out of the zone if your other pitches aren’t that good.

  53. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:04 am

    Where did I say that, Howard?
    I said he takes too long which is what Tex alluded to w/out mentioning his name.
    Everybody knows it. Why have a rule that they can?t enforce?
    ______________________

    Agreed, man. But, it’s just an excuse. They also say you can’t have pine tar beyond a certain level, but every player in baseball does. They also say you cant leave the batters box, but nearly every single MLB player has the back foot out of the box. They also say that the uniforms have to be worn a certain way, but they’re not. They also have million other rules that nobody pays attention to on a nightly basis.
    It’s not different than Girardi saying “Ortiz’ pine tar goes well beyond the legal limit” after Hughes gave up the HR. It’s sour grapes for a bad performance.

  54. Villa Nova-Ya September 1st, 2011 at 10:04 am

    One of the problems is the rule has to do with when the bases are empty, not when there are men on base. So once someone reaches base, Beckett can take all the time he wants.

    I don’t like it; no one likes it. But the Yankees did finally get to Beckett, so they adjusted. They’ve seen Beckett before, they know what to expect. it’s nothing new. However, it does stink when a guy just thumbs his nose to the rest of the league, and not only does nothing happen to speed him along, but he’s actually praised for the brilliance of his tactics.

  55. ac1 September 1st, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Hughes did not do himself any favors last night to push AJ out….

    I really feel like the team is looking for any reason to keep AJ in the rotation and move Hughes to the pen.

    Not my preference, but i feel the team is looking for it.

  56. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Darvish, Wilson…that’s proactive.
    CC,Nova……one of the above Hughes,AJ, Freddy ,Colon.
    Seems like an upgrade.

  57. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Also, the posting fee will not count towards the luxury tax, so not considered part of payroll, so it’s not going to hurt the bottom line.
    It will, however, be the most hypocritical ever for any of us to point that out :)

  58. ac1 September 1st, 2011 at 10:08 am

    chances Montero is the starting DH tonight?

  59. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:08 am

    I doubt Tex is making excuses, doesn’t seem the type.
    He was just being honest.
    Being on the side of a 4-5 hour loss must be brutal.
    Now a win would be different.

  60. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 10:08 am

    Darvish has been better than Dice BB was over in Japan.

    And he keeps getting better. This season is his best so far.

  61. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:09 am

    They?ve seen Beckett before, they know what to expect.

    ___________

    Overstated. He gave up 4 runs (1 unearned) in 7IP. I take that performance every day of the week from anyone in this rotation against Boston. EVERY DAY.
    As much as Hughes’ pitch to Varitek was a fluke, the same can be said for a couple of Beckett’s pitches.
    My guess is that both sides are fairly happy today over it.

  62. pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Darvish is no different than a AAA picher to me. Unproven at the major league level.

    I wouldn’t pay a AAA pitcher $60 million dollars before I knew they could pitch in the majors either.

  63. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:10 am

    ac1-I said the same thing last night about Hughes not doing himself any favors. Tonight’s game should be very interesting.

  64. West Coast Yankee Fan September 1st, 2011 at 10:10 am

    The Yankees sometimes are the stupidest organization imaginable. How on earth does this ridiculous mid-season audition to be in the starting rotation make any sense; particularly when it comes to Burnett?

    If AJ pitches a decent game tonight, does that mean a thing? Should it be an indicator that the next game or the one after that will be a good one as well? Of course not. The sample size is large, and 32-35 with an ERA approaching 5.00 speaks volumes and says otherwise. They are saying this one game matters? You have got to be kidding me.

  65. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:11 am

    chances Montero is the starting DH tonight?
    ==============================
    jeter,grandy,tex, cano, swish,jones,montero, martin,chavez

  66. Villa Nova-Ya September 1st, 2011 at 10:12 am

    You know, there seem to be a few rules in baseball that are “ignored” until it may prove beneficial to your team to point them out. For instance – making a pitcher/player change his shoes or glove. Seems to be a psychological tactic.

  67. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Joelsherman1 Column 1 http://nyp.st/rcP9ck #Yankees r going to see in Sept if Montero can become an Oct factor.

  68. Bronx Jeers September 1st, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Thanks everybody. I think I’m piecing it together now.

    Birds can pitch > Big Bird must really be able to pitch > AJ wants to be a bird (or pitch for a bird team) ….

    So I guess that’s what led to this?

    http://assets.nydailynews.com/.....urnett.jpg

  69. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:14 am

    I wish they’d tried to see if Montero could be an October factor much sooner, but I’m glad its apparently finally happened.

  70. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:14 am

    Joelsherman1 Column 2 http://nyp.st/noCAeL No one is winning Burnett v. Hughes, it is who will lose it less #Yankees

  71. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:14 am

    If this were a real audition, AJ would have to do at least as well as Hughes did last night.
    Not asking much.
    I don’t think they work that way.
    If he pitches better he’s in? He’s in either way unless he gets annihilated.

  72. pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:14 am

    “They are saying this one game matters? ”

    Where did the Yankees say that?

  73. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Bronx Jeers- :lol:

    Just when I thought I’d never have to see that awful hair again…

  74. upstate kate September 1st, 2011 at 10:16 am

    I thought the Yankees said the decision would not be based on one game.

    Jeers
    :) He does look like a bird in that pix.

  75. Villa Nova-Ya September 1st, 2011 at 10:16 am

    I don’t think it’s overstated. They did get to him.

    Whether you’d take those results everyday and twice on Sundays isn’t really relevant. Beckett is pitching to an ERA of slightly higher than 2 and the Yankees scored 5 runs last night (1 unearned). They made adjustments. or Beckett stunk that inning. Either way, the Yankees did what they needed to do in that inning.

  76. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:18 am

    For instance ? making a pitcher/player change his shoes or glove. Seems to be a psychological tactic.
    ___________

    As does speeding up a pitcher who’s rythm is very slow. I’m not arguing he’s slow, I’m arguing that if the league thought it was a big deal, they’d change it. Agian, as you stated, there are several examples of rules that are not paid attention to.
    It’s not like the Yankee v. Red Sox games are normally 2:45 long every time out. These guys have 5 hour affairs on the regular…

  77. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:18 am

    I don’t see the crime in Phil to the pen.
    Freddy and Colon have been reliable.
    Phil makes them stronger out there.
    Seems simple.

  78. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Darvish has never had an ERA over 2, Matsuzaka never had an ERA under 2. Darvish has never had a BB/9 over 2.2, Matsuzaka was over that rate 5 times. Matsuzaka once gave up 7 less HRs in 1 season than Darvish gave up in his first 4 years in the NPB.

    And Matsuzaka was not given the freedom of self conditioning his own japanese way by the Red Sox, they forced him into the famed ‘red sox shoulder program’ and that caused friction. The Yankees were very obliging to Igawa for his routine, and had they or another team acquired Matsuzaka its possible he would have had a different career trajectory.

  79. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:19 am

    jeter,grandy,tex, cano, swish,jones,montero, martin,chavez
    =================
    meant nunez

  80. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Whether you?d take those results everyday and twice on Sundays isn?t really relevant. Beckett is pitching to an ERA of slightly higher than 2 and the Yankees scored 5 runs last night (1 unearned). They made adjustments. or Beckett stunk that inning. Either way, the Yankees did what they needed to do in that inning.

    __________________

    Ellsbury dropped the ball that would have gotten them out of the inning. Then Reddick botched a ball in the corner to allow runs scoring triple.
    One inning, in 35, the Yankees have been able to score a few times.
    The issue is that they gave it and more right back. I could care less they got to Beckett when they come right back out and give it away.

  81. West Coast Yankee Fan September 1st, 2011 at 10:24 am

    pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:14 am

    “They are saying this one game matters? ” Where did the Yankees say that?

    ********************

    In their last ten games:

    Hughes is 4-4 with a 5.26

    Burnett is 1-5 with a 7.79

  82. Doc Iac September 1st, 2011 at 10:25 am

    i know i remeber readin arod wanted to play today…

    im crossin my fingers that he does

  83. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:26 am

    If they are going to sign a SP and the money is comparable then Id rather sign CJ Wilson than Darvish. He’s left handed and has shown in can pitch in the big leagues.

    I still find it amazing that ESPN thought it was cool to have the Red Sox radio guy, Curt Schilling, and Nomad in the booth for a nationally televised Yankees/Sox game. When they play at YS later in the month it’ll be interesting to see if Kay and Boone are in the booth for it……

  84. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 10:26 am

    The Yankees sometimes are the stupidest organization imaginable. How on earth does this ridiculous mid-season audition to be in the starting rotation make any sense; particularly when it comes to Burnett?

    If AJ pitches a decent game tonight, does that mean a thing? Should it be an indicator that the next game or the one after that will be a good one as well? Of course not. The sample size is large, and 32-35 with an ERA approaching 5.00 speaks volumes and says otherwise. They are saying this one game matters? You have got to be kidding me.

    ==============

    Phil Hughes ERA since coming off the DL is 5.26. His career ERA as a starter is 4.99 and I don’t even think that includes last night.

    AJ and Hughes are arguably the two worst pitchers in franchise history to accumulate as many starts as they have.

    This is a competition of who sucks less and since neither of these guys are getting a start in October, putting Hughes in the bullpen is probably what’s best for the team.

    As much as it pains me to say it as a Hughes believer he has not merited anything. The future may and I think will be different but pulling AJ is not the necessarily an obvious answer at this point.

  85. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:26 am

    I don?t see the crime in Phil to the pen.
    Freddy and Colon have been reliable.
    Phil makes them stronger out there.
    Seems simple.

    ___________

    100% agreed.
    You didn’t think he had #1 type stuff for one inning last night? I did. For one inning.
    I know someone posted here last night that he was at 93-94 in the sixth inning, which couldn’t have been further from the truth. He may have touched it, but nearly every pitch was an 88mph fastball.
    If they’re going to start him, he should be on a pitch count. Things got ugly fast when he dropped below 91.

  86. sunny615 September 1st, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Apparently the Yankees have scouted Yu Darvish heavily so they know what they’ll be getting into (or not getting into). Given his “raw stuff” and his age (25), versus Wilson (31), Darvish will probably get the nod since he’s younger and projectable and won’t cost as much (re: Luxury tax (Wilson’s salary is, Darvish’s posting fee is not). I’m willing to wager if the scouts give him the thumbs up, Cash will go all out on him.

  87. Phranchise September 1st, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Who cares about Hughes/AJ battle???

    There’s what less than 40 games left? And neither would really be in the playoff rotation now either.

    Do we care?

    Colon/Garcia will need rest

    CC threw a career high in pitches

    Nova throwing the most innings ever

    If the Yankees are far enough out of winning the AL East then they should be gearing up to keep the rotation as healthy as poissible for the playoffs.

  88. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 10:28 am

    I still find it amazing that ESPN thought it was cool to have the Red Sox radio guy, Curt Schilling, and Nomad in the booth for a nationally televised Yankees/Sox game. When they play at YS later in the month it?ll be interesting to see if Kay and Boone are in the booth for it??

    _________________

    Imaine being in the situation that this was the only feed you had?
    Schilling said last night that Cano had the plate dis of Vladamir Guererro. Just saying. I haven’t looked it up, but that can’t be right.

  89. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:28 am

    “Darvish has never had an ERA over 2, Matsuzaka never had an ERA under 2. Darvish has never had a BB/9 over 2.2, Matsuzaka was over that rate 5 times. ”

    Saying he’s better than Dice K isn’t saying much…..he’s never had an ERA at all in the big leagues. I would be interested at like 3/30 or something …….not paying the posting fee then giving him a 5 or 6 year deal though.

  90. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:29 am

    Plus, who knows what Soriano brings to the postseason?
    If he implodes or gets reinjured Phil will be out there.
    Get him ready.
    Let AJ eat innings.

  91. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Schilling also said Pedroia would have never been signed 25 years ago……which is basically the opposite of reality as today is the time when shorter players are overlooked.

  92. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Phranchise September 1st, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Yep.

    And you may as well put the guy in the bullpen who has shown in the past that he can be successful there.

  93. Phranchise September 1st, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Darvish is not a replacement option to Wilson or someone else they could try and trade for. He would have to be an icing on the cake signing.

    CC, Wilson, Nova, Hughes, Darvish and AJ going into next season?

    With Warren, Banuelos, Betcances, Phelps moving closer to helping.

  94. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Is Pedroia a creature of Fenway?
    What would his power #’s be at YS?

  95. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:31 am

    blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:26 am

    I still find it amazing that ESPN thought it was cool to have the Red Sox radio guy, Curt Schilling, and Nomad in the booth for a nationally televised Yankees/Sox game.
    *******************************

    After a while I just couldn’t take it anymore and watched the rest of the game on mute.

  96. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:32 am

    not paying the posting fee then giving him a 5 or 6 year deal though.

    I’d love to pay the posting fee, not taxed, then sign him to a team friendly 5-6 year deal. Better than being forced to give CJ Wilson 5 years. CJ wilson has AJ Burnett written all over it with his lack of command historically and the way he can labor through starts. The upside is he is left handed. He is also a ‘boston killer’ that will certainly stop doing that once he joins the Yankees.

  97. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:32 am

    The Yankees have to stop jerking their starters around……Hughes is a starter……then he struggles and he’s a reliever again……then he’s going to start next season again.

  98. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Saying he’s better than Dice K isn’t saying much…..he’s never had an ERA at all in the big leagues.

    Daisuke had an ERA under 3 one year in the majors. And this guy is better equipped.

  99. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:32 am

    CC, Wilson, Nova, Hughes, Darvish and AJ going into next season?
    ==============================
    Unless colon and freddy go elsewhere for more $$$$ I would keep them around…
    Would hate to see boston get either of them.

  100. mick September 1st, 2011 at 10:34 am

    I could see Hughes and AJ gone next year.
    Joba will be back.

  101. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Phrancise,

    If current history is an indicator……the Yanks wont pursue both Wilson and Darvish and I doubt they pursue either to be honest.

  102. pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:34 am

    In their last ten games:

    Hughes is 4-4 with a 5.26

    Burnett is 1-5 with a 7.79

    Ugly stats but how does that answer the question of where the Yankees said one game matters?

  103. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Is Pedroia a creature of Fenway?

    **************************

    he’s certainly a creature

    and has he ever heard of a little thing called a razor?

  104. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:36 am

    If current history is an indicator……the Yanks wont pursue both Wilson and Darvish and I doubt they pursue either to be honest.

    The Yankees are always interested in picking up international players though, and they’ve had everyone look at Darvish. I hope they put in an aggressive bid!

  105. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:36 am

    JF,

    What do you mean by team friendly 5 or 6 year deal?

  106. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:38 am

    What do you mean by team friendly 5 or 6 year deal?

    He is going to be making under 10 mil per year potentially with team options past the 6th year.

  107. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Hughes pitched well at times last night. He was a horse crap Varitek hit away from getting through 6 win the lead at Fenway……as opposed to AJ giving the Yankees zero chance to win in his last 2 starts against crappy teams.

  108. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:39 am

    “He is going to be making under 10 mil per year potentially with team options past the 6th year.”

    Im interested at that…..but Im not sure that’ll be the case.

  109. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Daisuke and even Igawa were very tradeable contract wise.

  110. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:40 am

    Im interested at that…..but Im not sure that’ll be the case.

    Daisuke didnt make 10 mil per year. Darvish will not only post for less but possibly sign for less. Even if its the same amount its like 8 mil per year.

  111. pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:40 am

    “Is Pedroia a creature of Fenway?”

    I thought he was a creature of Lilliput?

  112. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Wilson will re-up with Texas for a deal similar to what Weaver got. If the Yanks can get Darvish for under 10 million per then ok…..take a chance and hope he’s the real deal. I just wouldn’t invest more than Id be willing to eat if it doesn’t work out.

  113. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:42 am

    pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:40 am
    ?Is Pedroia a creature of Fenway??

    I thought he was a creature of Lilliput?

    ******************

    Nice. :)

  114. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:42 am

    Wilson will re-up with Texas for a deal similar to what Weaver got.

    He is going to make more than Weaver, book it. Only pitcher on the market,.

  115. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:42 am

    JF,

    Darvish for like 5/40. Im in…..

  116. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:46 am

    “He is going to make more than Weaver, book it. Only pitcher on the market,.”

    Maybe marginally….but I think it’ll be in that ballpark because of his age, lack of track record, and that he’s not anywhere as good as Weaver.

  117. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 10:48 am

    JESUS IS RISEN…..

    “When Alex Rodriguez was recently on injury rehab, members of the Yankees’ Triple-A affiliate suddenly noticed Montero was taking extra batting practice.
    Rodriguez did not want to get into Montero’s temperament, but he said of the righty slugger’s skills: “He can hit in the major leaguers and be a factor to help us win games this year.”

    Duh, Alex :D. How about he starts helping tonight :D :D :D

    Feel like a kid in a candy store :D :D :D
    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z1WiE29fLA

  118. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Maybe marginally….but I think it’ll be in that ballpark because of his age, lack of track record, and that he’s not anywhere as good as Weaver.

    He is going to prolly get 6 years and 17.5 or more. I can just see him being a Werth/Crawford guy where they aren’t really the best use of resources but there is just no other choice

  119. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 10:48 am

    RiverAveBlues Remove the games they?ve played against each other and the Yanks are 78-42 while the Sox are 72-49. Kinda defies explanation right now.

  120. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:50 am

    If the Yankees sign CJ Wilson and the contract is less than AJ Burnett’s I’ll be super surprised and be like ‘WAAAAAAAAAAAT?’

  121. pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:50 am

    “Rodriguez did not want to get into Montero’s temperament……”

    Someone not willing to play armchair psychologist? How refreshing.

  122. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 10:51 am

    He is going to be making under 10 mil per year potentially with team options past the 6th year

    ================================

    I don’t know that he’d get less than Matsuzaka, who ended up at about $9M per season. Inflation and all.

    I would think the outlay, including the posting fee will run $120M-$130M anyway.

  123. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:52 am

    JF,

    All it takes is one dumb or desperate team…..but those deals last winter really aren’t encouraging teams to follow that model I wouldn’t suspect.

  124. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 10:53 am

    Maybe marginally….but I think it’ll be in that ballpark because of his age, lack of track record, and that he’s not anywhere as good as Weaver.

    ======================================

    Weaver’s contract is a non issue as it relates to Wilson. He wasn’t a free agent when he signed his deal.

  125. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 10:53 am

    I would think the outlay, including the posting fee will run $120M-$130M anyway.

    I’ll take the under on this. If its over you can have the brownies chip was supposed to bake for me. Or the steak dinner that guy who said Buchholz would have a 3 ERA or less this year owes me.

  126. pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:55 am

    David Einhorn announces his negotiations with Mets end – he will not be buying equity stake.

  127. blake September 1st, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Mell,

    No….I.just meant I think that’s in the neighborhood of what he will get……when I compared him to Weaver I didn’t really mean for the contract…..I just meant that he’s not on that level of pitcher.

  128. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 10:58 am

    I’ll take the under on this. If its over you can have the brownies chip was supposed to bake for me. Or the steak dinner that guy who said Buchholz would have a 3 ERA or less this year owes me.

    =============================================

    Brownies, eh? Made by Chip? I’ll think about that one.

    What leads you to believe it will be lower than Matsuzaka’s posting fee/contract?

  129. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Yes pls

    One Yankees official acknowledged Montero is coming with a chance to win a significant job and another member of the organization said definitively, “By the playoffs, he will be our best DH option.”

  130. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 11:00 am

    What leads you to believe it will be lower than Matsuzaka’s posting fee/contract?

    It might be equal, but the Red Sox had a crazy overbid and I think Darvish will post for less due to teams being more cautious and his contract will be similar or less.

  131. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:01 am

    “One Yankees official acknowledged Montero is coming with a chance to win a significant job and another member of the organization said definitively, “By the playoffs, he will be our best DH option.”

    If this is what they believe……then why on earth wasn’t he up 2 months ago when he would have actually had a chance to get some ABs and adjust to the big leagues.

  132. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 11:02 am

    I think he posts for 30ish. And his contract will be 40-50ish. With options.

  133. West Coast Yankee Fan September 1st, 2011 at 11:03 am

    pat September 1st, 2011 at 10:34 am

    In their last ten games:

    Hughes is 4-4 with a 5.26

    Burnett is 1-5 with a 7.79

    Ugly stats but how does that answer the question of where the Yankees said one game matters?

    *************

    It’s obvious to me that Hughes is the better option of the two. The fact that tonights’s “one game” matters in the decision process is absurd.

    The Yankees do very little right when it comes to handling their starters.

  134. Villa Nova-Ya September 1st, 2011 at 11:03 am

    blake -

    Two months ago, Montero wasn’t hitting like he’s been hitting the last few weeks.

    Girardi stated (on his manager’s show) that the preference is to bring up a player who is “on a roll,” which Montero clearly is right now.

  135. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:05 am

    It’s insane to think how the lineup going forward, especially against LHP, will be in absolute crush mode, if we have Montero, Alex, and Andruw to throw at lefties…

    Virtually overnight, even just the RH power quotient, to say nothing of adding two uber talented bats, skyrockets.

    I hope Montero beasts tonight, but even if he goes hitless, the Jesus Montero Era will have begun. Haven’t been to the Stadium for a while now, but I’ll be attending as many games as I can now that He is here….

  136. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:06 am

    Villa,

    I understand that…..but he’s been swinging the bat better now for awhile and overall they know the type ability that he has. I just think they played it a little too safe with him and missed some time that coukd have been used for him to adjust. It may not matter…..we’ll see.

  137. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 11:07 am

    If this is what they believe……then why on earth wasn’t he up 2 months ago when he would have actually had a chance to get some ABs and adjust to the big leagues

    =================================

    Good question

  138. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:08 am

    blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:01 am

    If this is what they believe??then why on earth wasn?t he up 2 months ago when he would have actually had a chance to get some ABs and adjust to the big leagues.

    **********************

    Just to give LoHudders something to complain about. ;)

  139. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:09 am

    I liked some of what I saw from Hughes last night, especially in the first few innings. That is more of who Phil Hughes will likely be for 6 or 7 once he gets his full strength back, which I’m assuming won’t be until next year.

    Besides, people are so result oriented. If a healthy Alex had been in the lineup, something we have really yet to see this season, Hughes gets more support in that stupid pinball park, and if Jesus had been integrated earlier, he’d have really had a chance for redemption that Beckett enjoyed from way lesser bats….

    Hughes should be ok, unless there is something more ominous plaguing him that hasn’t come to light.

  140. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:10 am

    A little levity:

    http://tiny.cc/ra5u1

  141. Villa Nova-Ya September 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    blake -

    Maybe. Maybe.

    I think there were other factors (roster stuff?) that played a part in the decision making. I think September 1st was always going to be the date.

  142. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    The first game of that road trip in KC was the perfect time to bring up Montero…..he had been hitting already and it would have given him a lot more time to get up to speed. Waiting until Sept 1 and then claiming he coukd be a factor in October just don’t jive together.

  143. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    I think he posts for 30ish. And his contract will be 40-50ish. With options.

    =====================================

    If it is, that’ll put a lot more teams in play. As I remember, lot of the scuttlebut leading up to Matsuzaka’s posting fee indicated around $30M. We’ll see.

  144. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am

    Erin, it’s not as if the idea that he should have been here earlier was some thoughtless yearning.

    There’s merit to having wanted to see someone who will be that important to the Yankee lineup, this year and in future seasons, get initiated earlier so that he could go around the block a few times before crunch time.

  145. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Prufrock

    Chavy and Nunez were quite good last night.

    Don’t really see why it would have been any better with Alex in there.

  146. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:12 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am
    Erin, it?s not as if the idea that he should have been here earlier was some thoughtless yearning.

    **********************

    JAP, oh, I know. Just a bad joke on my part. ;)

  147. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 11:14 am

    If it is, that’ll put a lot more teams in play. As I remember, lot of the scuttlebut leading up to Matsuzaka’s posting fee indicated around $30M. We’ll see.

    The 2nd and 3rd highest posts for Matsuzaka were 32 and 37 (Yanks and Mets) or around those numbers. I think a team wont be like durrr 50! on darvish. Maybe the pirates or someone surprises though. Always gonna be a wild card

  148. Phranchise September 1st, 2011 at 11:14 am

    No way can you depend on Colon or Garcia for next year. The Yankees have been so lucky with both this year. The Sox gambled on Colon a few years ago and released him. Remember when they did the Smoltz experiment. Both of these two were blessing this year. Won’t happen again. If you are taking a gamble next year it will be on a Harden or Bedard.

  149. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:16 am

    LGY, Eduardo I knew would hit Beckett. I think if there was a way to accommodate his bat more frequently, he’d really have been able to help us more at this point.

    He can hit, but he’s not Alex, and he hits line drives, doesn’t get the same loft and power on the ball that Alex can. Chavez had a good series, but RH power has the potential to erase all pitching ills in Fenway…

  150. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:17 am

    This is Garcia’s 2nd straight solid season…..he’s already lost his fastball and has found a way to get guys outs a different way……at 34 there is no reason to believe he wouldn’t be able to do it again next year. Colon has a more lightning in a bottle feel to him……but id plan on bringing Freddy back if they can.

  151. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:18 am

    Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:12 am
    J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:11 am
    Erin, it?s not as if the idea that he should have been here earlier was some thoughtless yearning.

    **********************

    JAP, oh, I know. Just a bad joke on my part.
    ////

    ;)

  152. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Really liked Eduardo messing with Beckett’s attempt to mess with him…other guys should have followed his example and played the disruption counter game more…

  153. Wave Your Hat September 1st, 2011 at 11:20 am

    The Yanks are going to need a #2 starter next year. If they can’t find one in a trade, or they don’t want to give an AJ-type contract to Wilson, Darvish is the logical option. He would bring back the Japan market as well.

    Unfortunately, the Soriano and Feliciano contracts are going to affect how much the Yanks would bid on Darvish.

  154. Wave Your Hat September 1st, 2011 at 11:22 am

    blake-

    Some team is going to give Garcia a multi-year deal. I don’t like the idea of the Yanks doing that.

  155. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Really liked Eduardo messing with Beckett’s attempt to mess with him…other guys should have followed his example and played the disruption counter game more…

    ——

    I agree, but from top to bottom the Yankee organization doesn’t try to game the system.

    That’s one thing the Sox are much more proficient at.

  156. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Tonight we have all 3 important BP arms and Noesi to bail out AJ.

    Lester hasn’t exactly been lights out against us this season. He got out of jams, to his credit, but he put guys on and as I recall, at Yankee Stadium, his fielders bailed him out in some crucial spots.

    The bottom line, we hit the ball hard off him.

  157. Villa Nova-Ya September 1st, 2011 at 11:25 am

    J Alfred -

    I don’t think they have Noesi for a few more days.

  158. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 11:25 am

    I rarely if ever have confidence in AJ but for some reason I have a feeling in my gut that he will pitch well tonight.

    Nevermind. I think I’m just hungry.

  159. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:26 am

    We didn’t have to mess with Beckett’s tempo in the past, LGY, we were too busy taking him out of the park. Besides, guys like Abreu, Matsui, aren’t here any more. The lineup is good, but we have less of the “professional hitter” type in our lineup.

  160. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:26 am

    JAP-they don’t have Noesi tonight. I think it’s about another week ’til he can come back up.

  161. upstate kate September 1st, 2011 at 11:27 am

    time for some bacon LGY?

  162. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Wave,

    Possibility….we’ll see.

    J alfred,

    Noesi unfortunately threw 3 innings last night I think.

  163. Joe from Long Island September 1st, 2011 at 11:28 am

    blake – at this point, I’m thinking of 6 starters on the roster next year – CC, Phil, Garcia and Colon, Nova and Noesi. My guess is that Cash moves heaven and earth to try to move AJ.

    And, I think AJ is likeable enough as a person. I think the guy is really trying. If he wasn’t, he wouldn’t have the clubhouse respect he appararently does. But, reality is reality.

  164. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Villa Nova-Ya September 1st, 2011 at 11:25 am
    J Alfred -

    I don’t think they have Noesi for a few more days.
    ///

    Is that right? That’s not good. I guess Corey Wade could go two, Logan (closes eyes) can be brought in for a lefty (he does seem to be an every-other-outing proposition) and then we crescendo with SoRoMo.

  165. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:32 am

    For next year, still holding out hope that Joba the Starter is reconsidered.

  166. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Joe,

    I think he does also….now whether he’s successful or not I have no idea. Ideally id love it if the Yanks could sign either Wilson or Darvish to a reasonable contract and their starters be.

    Sabathia, Wilson/Darvish/, Nova, Hughes, Garcia, Noesi. Let there be a competition for that 5th spot again.

    Wilson is probably going to.coat more than Id pay….Darvish is interesting if the price is less than 10 million per.

  167. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am

    JAP,

    I think many of us would…..the ship may have sailed though. I wish they had him in the pen right now

  168. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am

    I don’t want Wilson blocking Manny when his time comes.

  169. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Joe-I’ve always liked AJ. I think he’s a really good guy, and by all accounts seems to be a great teammate. I would love to see him do well, but I think you’re right that Cash is going to try to move him this winter.

  170. Triple Short of a Cycle September 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am

    I just caught a couple of seconds on the FAN but someone mentioned what Nomar said on the broadcast last night and that if it continues to happen when Yankees step into the batter?s box then messages are going to be sent. Any idea what he was talking about?

  171. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:35 am

    One way or another I hope Noesi gets a real shot next year.

  172. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Blake, I wish they’d had him in the rotation last night ;).

    I remember that Joba-Beckett showdown, and who was the better pitcher.

    We’ll see re his future. I am just hoping…

  173. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:37 am

    blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:35 am
    One way or another I hope Noesi gets a real shot next year.

    ********************

    I think it was Sherman (?) who tweeted yesterday that Cashman supposedly sees Noesi as 2012 SuperNova.

  174. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Wilson wouldn’t block Manny…..Id only want him if they could get him on a shorter term than he’s probably going to sign for. I really think he will stay in Texas

  175. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Triple Short of a Cycle September 1st, 2011 at 11:34 am
    I just caught a couple of seconds on the FAN but someone mentioned what Nomar said on the broadcast last night and that if it continues to happen when Yankees step into the batter?s box then messages are going to be sent. Any idea what he was talking about?
    ////

    No idea, but it’s baffling how omnipresent all these ex-Red Sox are when it comes to this series. They control virtually all the talking points that get spoon fed to dummies. No wonder we have people in the game threads acting like we’re the ones who took 86 years to win anything…

  176. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I really just would like to have Wilson for next year…..which is why I said they should offer him a 1 year 30 million dollar contract. Manny will be ready in 2013.

  177. ac1 September 1st, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Tonight we have all 3 important BP arms and Noesi to bail out AJ.

    __

    We dont have Noesi for another week. He was optioned back to AAA to get Garcia off the DL so he requires the 10 day stay in Scranton.

  178. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Surprised ESPN didn’t go ahead and have Peter Gammons guest appearances on the broadcast last night. NESN is really like 100 x less biased than ESPN.

  179. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:40 am

    Wilson would, because I doubt he’s coming here on some short-term deal.

  180. Jerkface September 1st, 2011 at 11:41 am

    I really just would like to have Wilson for next year…..which is why I said they should offer him a 1 year 30 million dollar contract. Manny will be ready in 2013.

    The Yankees should do this in a lot of cases but they don’t.

  181. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Noesi also threw last night…..3 innings.

  182. ac1 September 1st, 2011 at 11:41 am

    I doubt Darvish would be our #2 starter in 2012 if we got him. They could continue to try to push Pettitte out of retirement, but he seems happy right now. Maybe 1/20 would be enough to make him feel otherwise.

  183. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 11:41 am

    Manny may be ready sooner, although ideally it would be nice if his “time” coincides with having no restrictions.

  184. Captain Clutch September 1st, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Jesus is free!!!!!!

  185. pat September 1st, 2011 at 11:45 am

    “…..but I think you’re right that Cash is going to try to move him this winter.”

    AJ has a limited no trade so moving him has layers.

  186. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 11:48 am

    pat September 1st, 2011 at 11:45 am
    ??..but I think you’re right that Cash is going to try to move him this winter.?

    AJ has a limited no trade so moving him has layers.

    *************************

    whether or not he’ll be successful is another story. But at this point I’m fully expecting him to try.

  187. Joe from Long Island September 1st, 2011 at 11:49 am

    whether or not he?ll be successful is another story. But at this point I?m fully expecting him to try.

    ditto, Erin.

    Later.

  188. Niblick September 1st, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Burnett will be lucky to last 2/3 of an inning tonight.

  189. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Manny may be ready sooner…..but I really hope they give him most of 2012 at AAA. There is no reason to rush him at age 20. I wish he coukd have gotten more innings this year…..

  190. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Does anybody know which 10 teams are on AJs no trade?

  191. upstate kate September 1st, 2011 at 11:55 am

    moving AJ has layers too? I thought it was just onions, ogres and jerkfaces that had layers.

  192. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Does anybody know which 10 teams are on AJs no trade?

    I don’t think it’s ever been released.

  193. blake September 1st, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Good post at RAB on Montero and expectations.

    http://www.riveraveblues.com

  194. MoRings42 September 1st, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    I think Hughes will be back in the bullpen.. I can’t see any situation that the Yankees would want to bring AJ into a game so he could give up a HR.

  195. jacksquat September 1st, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    AJ is practically unmoveable. There are many cheap veterans, rehabs and even minor leaguers that can do what AJ has done the past two years. And if they don’t give innings you just find another. Some of those guys even turn out to be pretty good, see Colon and Garcia just on this team. Who wouldn’t want Noesi making this start instead of AJ? Heck I’d even take chance on Phelps or Whelan and probably a couple other minor leaguers.

  196. pat September 1st, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Derek and Alex both having meet and greets September 19th.

    Heres’ the link for Steiner’s Derek/Tino/Winfield event. Tickets start at $700

    http://www.nytstore.com/Jeter

  197. pat September 1st, 2011 at 12:09 pm

    Here’s the link for the Taylor Hooton Foundation Alex/Tommy John event at Yankee Stadium. Tickets start at $600

    http://taylorhooton.org/YankeeStadiumFundraiser

  198. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    pat- and I assume you’ll be dropping $1300 to attend both events, right?? ;)

  199. blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:13 pm

    JackCurryYES 31 Aug Gardner leads MLB in UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating). We’ll explain why he’s such a good LFer and why he should win a Gold Glove on our pre-game.

    Yay UZR

  200. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    blake-I certainly hope Gardner gets a Gold Glove this year. I thought he should have gotten one last year.

  201. Vineyard Yankee September 1st, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    I believe that it is important to win the AL East and get home field advantage for the playoffs.

    Hate to say it but The Yankees and The Red Sox are two very evenly matched teams. When playoff time rolls around the WC Team will have an uphill battle.

    It always boils down to The Yankees and The Red Sox come playoff time. I hope Binder Joe & Co. realize the advantage of having home field.

  202. pat September 1st, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    erin- I would but I only spend the equivalent of a mortgage payment on the mortgage payment.

  203. longtimefan September 1st, 2011 at 12:27 pm

    Every five or six days we hear about how A J has to turn it around, he makes all these worthless and meaningless proclaimations and then goes out and stinks the place out. Enough already, move him to the pen and in off season trade him if possible. He is a head case and nothing will change that–the only difference between him and Pavano is A J actually goes out and makes a fool of himself every five days.

  204. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    pat September 1st, 2011 at 12:27 pm
    erin- I would but I only spend the equivalent of a mortgage payment on the mortgage payment.

    **********************

    :D

  205. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    JackCurryYES 31 Aug Gardner leads MLB in UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating). We’ll explain why he’s such a good LFer and why he should win a Gold Glove on our pre-game.

    =================================

    Gold glove voting pool is pretty much a bunch of assclowns, which is why I don’t put much stock in the award, but Gardner really has been a terrific defender.

  206. Chase September 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Jack Curry:

    Montero will be starting DH vs Lester. As @JoelSherman1 first reported, Montero will be given chance to have significant role going forward

  207. Vineyard Yankee September 1st, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Las Vegas is tempting people to bet the over which is only 9.5 for tonight’s game. Tough call, Lester could be very good and give up 2 or less and AJ could easily give up 6 to make it very close.

  208. Chase September 1st, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Cannot wait to see Montero against Lester tonight, especially in Fenway.

    He crushes lefties… although Lester is no average lefty haha

  209. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Does anybody know which 10 teams are on AJs no trade?

    =============================

    You mean, what are the 10 teams the Yankees can pay Burnett about $12M to pitch for the next two seasons?

  210. pat September 1st, 2011 at 12:33 pm

    Let it be known that your pleas of Free Jesus have been heard!

  211. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes September 1st, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    I’m sure none of you want to read the Doomsday posts, but games like yesterday emphasize why New York is not built to win it all this season.

    Look at how Boston made CC work on Tuesday. They have a deep, patient lineup much like NY does. Only difference is their top two starters are better as a unit than NY’s. After CC, all we have is five big question marks.

    I don’t think Boston will be taking home any rings either, but the difference between having one playoff caliber starter and two is sizeable enough to make me think that if these two teams met in the ALCS, the one I am rooting for won’t be the one advancing.

  212. comet September 1st, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    Kate do they have Timmie’s in Syracuse?

  213. Chase September 1st, 2011 at 12:35 pm

    I think that’s a fair assessment, Mad Prince.

  214. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes September 1st, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Vineyard,

    Betting on AJ is like betting on the Pirates.

  215. Warning Track Power September 1st, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    NEWSFLASH-
    Reports out of Boston city limits are that a young man wearing a Yankees Jersey who only answers to the name Jesus, has been destroying red sox related signs, posters, billboards, ads, etc…. and foaming at the mouth.

    More news to come!!!

  216. yankeefeminista September 1st, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    Chase September 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    Jack Curry:

    Montero will be starting DH vs Lester. As @JoelSherman1 first reported, Montero will be given chance to have significant role going forward.
    ______
    Free at last! :D

  217. pat September 1st, 2011 at 12:37 pm

    RT @BenBadler: MLB suspends Dominican RHP Juan Carlos Paniagua ($1.1 million, Yankees), but won’t say why http://bit.ly/rb7zoG

  218. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes September 1st, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Chase,

    I hated writing that, but it is honest.

    I think the Yankees TRIED to do something at the deadline to make themselves better, but the type of player(s) necessary were just not existent on the market. We also tried to get Lee and he wanted to pitch in Philly.

    The AL is probably up in the air…the Yankees COULD get there, but if they run into a team like Philly in the WS, the pitching only gets harder.

  219. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 12:41 pm

    RT @BenBadler: MLB suspends Dominican RHP Juan Carlos Paniagua ($1.1 million, Yankees), but won’t say why http://bit.ly/rb7zoG

    ====================================

    This piece also notes what seems to be zero progress on the DePaula thing. Jeesh!

  220. Warning Track Power September 1st, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Are there “fans” here that are still upset the Yankees were unable to sign Lee? Unreal.
    The man did not want to pitch for anybody but the phillies. END OF SUBJECT!!
    Cashman was not going to sign Lee against his will. The man made a choice and there was nothing the Yankees could have done, that they did not already do.
    Some of the “fans” around here treat the Yankees like a video game.
    Firing a person one day, asking for a player to be sent down the next day, etc……

  221. blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Hooray Montero. Im so happy I almost forgot AJ was pitching.

  222. blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Mell,

    No I mean the 20 teams they can pay him to pitch for without his consent ;)

  223. Vineyard Yankee September 1st, 2011 at 12:45 pm

    Prince:

    He has delivered the last three times taking the over. Most of the time he has it wrapped up by the middle innings all by himself. (implosion in waiting)

  224. pkyankfan69 September 1st, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    Is it a definite that Arod is not playing tonight?

    Jeter
    Grandy
    Tex
    Arod
    Cano
    Swish
    Jones
    Montero
    Nunez
    Cervelli

    ^^ That lineup has a shot to beat Lester even with AJ starting

  225. Vineyard Yankee September 1st, 2011 at 12:46 pm

    blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    Hooray Montero. Im so happy I almost forgot AJ was pitching.

    ================

    It’s nice to have something to look forward to. :lol:

  226. upstate kate September 1st, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    Hi Comet
    I think so, they seem to be fairly common in the western part of the state.

  227. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 12:47 pm

    No I mean the 20 teams they can pay him to pitch for without his consent

    ====================================

    Ah! My bad.

  228. JobaTipsHisCap September 1st, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    someone really think Montero will change Yankee’s fate this season.

    good luck with that.

  229. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes September 1st, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    Warning Track Power,

    I hope no one is still upset over Lee. I know I’m not, I was just using him as an example as to how the Yankees TRIED to get better.

    As far as Lee goes, you got it right: it was out of the Yankees’ control. Period.

  230. blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Nope….just want to see if he can help.

    Anybody think the Yanks are starting Montero to deflect some of the attention off AJ……id say that’s part of it.

  231. JobaTipsHisCap September 1st, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    well, at least they didn’t get swept this time.

  232. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Joba_62 Hello everyone! Seize the day and every opportunity that presents itself. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed

  233. MLink September 1st, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Montero in lineup tonight according to curry

  234. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes September 1st, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Montero is not and should not expected to be a difference maker this season.

    I’m really happy he is getting his shot and hopefully it will pay dividends moving forward.

  235. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    http://www.minorleagueball.com.....rk-yankees

  236. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 12:53 pm

    Mell September 1st, 2011 at 12:31 pm
    JackCurryYES 31 Aug Gardner leads MLB in UZR (Ultimate Zone Rating). We’ll explain why he’s such a good LFer and why he should win a Gold Glove on our pre-game.

    =================================

    Gold glove voting pool is pretty much a bunch of assclowns, which is why I don’t put much stock in the award, but Gardner really has been a terrific defender.
    ///

    I put no stock in UZR, but having seen Gardner myself in left all year, he’s been terrific.

  237. blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 3UP nyp.st/n09Reb Montero vs. LHP, Burnett’s fading weapons, Hughes and the future #Yankees

    Think Sherman reads Lohud because pretty much everything in this is straight from the comments section…..especially on AJ.

  238. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    Erin September 1st, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    Joba_62 Hello everyone! Seize the day and every opportunity that presents itself. Tomorrow isn’t guaranteed
    ////

    You listening, AJ? SEIZE! (& then let Jesus outhit your mistakes ;)).

  239. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Dante Bichette, Jr. is being promoted to the Staten Island Yanks.

  240. luis September 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    JESUS IS FREE!!!!!

  241. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm

    Jesus is free!

  242. Warning Track Power September 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    Right now I am dreaming of Montero smacking line drives into and over the green monster
    in the game tonight. What a sigh that would be

  243. blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    I use UZR to support my argument when its convient……I put no stock in it but its good to quote when it agrees with my opinion :)

  244. GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    JackCurryYES Jack Curry
    Montero will be starting DH vs Lester. As @JoelSherman1 first reported, Montero will be given chance to have significant role going forward

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Really surprised that the Yanks are starting Montero in that snake pit for his first game.

  245. LockDown September 1st, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    blake September 1st, 2011 at 12:50 pm
    Nope….just want to see if he can help.

    Anybody think the Yanks are starting Montero to deflect some of the attention off AJ……id say that’s part of it.
    —-

    Nope. I think this is truely think it’s about Montero and squeezing him in without causing a problem.

    I think they wanted to bring up Montero after the trade deadline, but couldn’t fit him in with Posada at DH. Today is their first opportunity & Lefty Lester is pitching, so they don’t have to worry about Posada.

    If it were a righty pitcher then we wouldn’t see him in his first majorL game today.

    I also think they know A-rod will come back soon & it will be hard to squeeze Montero in & Posada out. This is their shot to get playing & they have to take to avoid issues later.

  246. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 12:58 pm

    The Prophecy :D

    LGY August 31st, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    And on the 1st of September TEH JESUS will be freed.

    Jon of Lester will feel his wrath.

  247. LockDown September 1st, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    My grammar was awful, sorry :(

  248. Howard September 1st, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Really surprised that the Yanks are starting Montero in that snake pit for his first game.

    ___________________

    Should be fun here tomorrow either way.

  249. pat September 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    Hopefully Jesus keeps this in mind starting tonight and doesn’t get consumed by the moment too much…….

    “While working in the batting cage with rehabbing slugger Alex Rodriguez……… the Yankees’ 21-year-old catcher took the words of advice from the future Hall of Famer to heart.

    The message: Don’t put the weight of the world on every at-bat.

  250. blake September 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    I think the Yanks could have waited……they are facing a Lefty in 5 of the next games….I think they wanted to get him in there tonight to give him a taste of Fenway and to also take some of the limelight off AJ…….and Also because he mashes lefties

  251. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    GreenBeret7 September 1st, 2011 at 12:55 pm
    Dante Bichette, Jr. is being promoted to the Staten Island Yanks.

    ********************

    Yay Little Dante :)

  252. Chase September 1st, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    GB, why?

    Seems like a great place to begin his career. Especially with that wall as a RHB.

    Montero vs. LHP 2011: .328/.392/.647/1.039

  253. blake September 1st, 2011 at 1:02 pm

    Next 8 games.

  254. LGY September 1st, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Binder Joe strikes again!! :mad: He makes it a point to embarass Jorge in another Boston series!

    First he bats him 9th, then he benches him, and finally he passes the DH torch to Jesus.

    /Niblick’d

  255. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    Warning Track Power September 1st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
    Right now I am dreaming of Montero smacking line drives into and over the green monster
    in the game tonight. What a sigh that would be
    ///

    A shot into the bullpen, ala Alex when he put his hand over the camera :D

  256. Erin September 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    New Post: Call-ups and depth

    :arrow:

  257. Warning Track Power September 1st, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    I’ll guess the line-up:

    Jeter SS
    Swisher RF
    Granderson CF
    Tex 1B
    Cano 2B
    Jones LF
    Montero DH
    Martin C
    Nunez 3B

  258. luis September 1st, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    LGY,

    I predicted that he will hit 3-5 with two homers!!, then SoS said that he is going to have 5 hits in three at bast, i haven’t figure that one out!!, LOL

  259. J. Alfred Prufrock September 1st, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    I don’t mind Niblick’s attempts to balance what appears to be contempt from some Yankee fans for Posada. They’re the ones who should be embarrassed.

  260. Mell September 1st, 2011 at 1:06 pm

    Really surprised that the Yanks are starting Montero in that snake pit for his first game

    =========================

    If they’re giving him a shot at earning a spot on the playoff roster, may as well start him off in a semi-playoff atmosphere.

  261. yankeefeminista September 1st, 2011 at 1:06 pm

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  262. mick September 1st, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    he needs a taste of fenway…don’t want the alcs to be his 1st exposure

  263. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes September 1st, 2011 at 1:17 pm

    You all are placing way too much pressure on Montero.

    3 for 5 with 2 HRs?? that is epically idiotic.

    He’ll be lucky if he goes 1 for 5 with a single.

    Give him some time to get his bearings straight and, once again, stop over-hyping prospects.

    Its great to be excited, but be reasonable.

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