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MG September 6th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Ys Guy September 6th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
the fact is that while i didnt like the whole steroid mess, i dont blame any one player when everyone else was doing it. and i dont care that arod is the guy who in the end profited the most from the results of his ped usage.
what i do care about is that he is breaking down with 6/$180 left on his contract, an amount so big that it strains even the almost limitless resources of the yankees. even for a 35 year old, a decline of more than 75% in homers over the past 5 seasons is alarming, whether caused by steroids, girlfriends or radiowaves from ufo’s.
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I’m not the biggest Arod fan in the world but this really isn’t fair.
You are taking a career year in 2007 (54 HRs) and comparing it to 2011, a year where he will have a career low in games played and declaring a 75% decline.
Arod had 35 HRs in 2006 and an OPS of .914-his OPS for the past two seasons is in the .850 range, that’s less than a 10% difference. His slugging % is also down less than 10% since 2004 and 2006.
This is the 1st year he’s ever missed this many games-he played 137 last year and 124 the previous year after missing the 1st month.
There is no doubt his overall performance will drop over the rest of his contract but the only one to blame for that is Hank Steinbrenner, isn’t the one who overruled the rest of the Yankees front office and resigned Arod after he opted out?
It also doesn’t mean the Yankees can’t win with him playing 3rd base, they won 4 out of 5 with 3rd basemen producing far less than even his current numbers in the late ’90s.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We want Montero…..catch him
I would be pissed that Montero is not in the lineup but this game will not be played tonight anyway.
Does Montero not deserve a day off??? He did have to work on Labor Day, you know.
YankeesWeather Gates will open on time at 5pm.
Dad, Blanchard played a little first, left and right field when Maris would move to center field. Maris was a sensational center fielder, possibly better than Mantle.
Imagine the Indians having both Maris and Colavito in the same outfield and trading them for an aging batting champion and a bunch of utility players like Woodie Held within 4 months of each other? No wonder they didn’t win for 40 years.
Maybe this is the ol ” I was gonna play ya Po, but the rain and all” trick..
Plus we will need all hands on deck for the newly scheduled double headers after this crummy week..
arguing that nobody should base a rate of decline from the high point that set the standard for what arod is being paid is riduiculous.
and saying that his low water point shouldn’t be of concern because he was injured, when the point was that he is breaking down is equally ridiculous.
Why take the team out of montero and go with posada? Hasn’t Jorge had enough chances.. I get that he wants to play, but let the kid keep going .. booooo is right LGY.
Yeah, KC was our minor league team then…. we seemed to do really well in our trades with them
GB, what do you recall about phil linz?
Lol @ no Montero…. Still worried about Jorge’s ego I see… Putting the best lineup on the field should be all that matters… Lame
err I meant take the steam out
Gb, oops…. i thought we got Maris from KC. My bad.
El Nino
BryanHoch Ramiro Pena in Yankees clubhouse
This would have been a perfect game to hit Cano 4th and Teix 5th. Based on this lineup, I don’t think you’re going to see Teix dropped to 5th until next yr (if even then).
tomingeorgia September 6th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Dadiniowa,
Yogi and Howard played left, every once in a while.
tomingeorgia September 6th, 2011 at 4:32 pm
Dad,
It could have happened, but I don’t recall, but if Blanchard was on one of his hot hitting streaks, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did.
tomingeorgia September 6th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
GB7,
It was always entertaining to see Yogi in left in the late afternoon autumn sunshine.
After hitting 2 hr against a righty, montero sits against a righty that is not dominant. Only Girardi can make this up…
The only person who like this lineup is AJ Burnett.
Dad,
Maris was traded from Cleveland to KC and from KC to NY a year and a half later.
Linz was basically a utility player…OK glove, not really a bat, except for the ’64 WS, though he did have a bit of power. Plays a mean “Mary Had A Little Lamb” on the harmonica.
The only person who like this lineup is AJ Burnett.
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Hughes won’t be judged on a win or loss due to lack of offense.
Why does Burnett like this lineup?
Oh goodie ray Romano Ramiro Pena is in the clubhouse…. That’s all they got?
The only person who like this lineup is AJ Burnett.
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What does this even mean?
Berra wasn’t terrible in left, but, not a Gold Glover. Better than having Adam Dunn in the outfield.
Once again, bending over backwards for Jorge instead of putting the best lineup on the field…. man this is an old hat
Girardi at his worst. A 21 year old high on adrenaline goes yard twice against a righty and he sits him in favor of Posada. Unreal.
I would also switch Cano and Tex. Granderson and Cano back to back is no weakness IMO when looking at Tex batting left-handed.
n i like the lineup based on the fact that posada can be of value to this team in the PS, but not if he’s sitting on the bench from now till october.
girardi was brilliant in ’09 getting the most production out of declining johnny damon and hideki matsui by resting them regularly. and each time, people threw a fit on here every time they were sat down. but how did that work out in the PS?
montero isnt going to lose his swing because he sits a game but posada is going to be useless if hes benched the rest of the season.
and one more thing, girardi is posting a lineup for a game that is not going to be played, so maybe he actually has no intention of using posada but using a rainday to make him feel like he still has a part to play…
Erin September 6th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
The only person who like this lineup is AJ Burnett.
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What does this even mean?
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Disregard his muttering, Erin. Somebody stole his pet socks from his closet.
Any word on Beckett ?
Erin September 6th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
The only person who like this lineup is AJ Burnett.
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What does this even mean?
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Really?
GB, why didn’t Casey put them in right field instead of left? Makes little sense
Posada has to play at least occasionally. I agree he could be of value in the postseason, but not if he gets absolutely no at-bats over the next 3 weeks. Jesus will be fine missing one day.
Yes, the world will explode because Posada is DHing instead of Montero in a game that might not even get played.
You can let Posada play…….catch Montero
GreenBeret7 September 6th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Could you imagine the 61 Yanks if they could have played with a DH? LOL! WOW!
I grew up during the Dale Berra experiment in pgh. How they were related athletically I have no idea.
GirardI is starting to treat these games like spring training games. Where everyday a guy sits so the back up guys can get at bats. Which is fine but keep montero in there and stop platooning him!!!
Assuming Montero keeps hitting, there is a thought out there that one of Posada/Chavez is going to be left off the roster. If that’s the case they both need to get AB’s over the next 20 games to see who’s hitting better going into the playoffs.
Dad, they had Bauer in right field until Maris came along
fantasygame101 September 6th, 2011 at 4:50 pm
After hitting 2 hr against a righty, montero sits against a righty that is not dominant. Only Girardi can make this up…
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so true !
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Y’s guy
and one more thing, girardi is posting a lineup for a game that is not going to be played, so maybe he actually has no intention of using posada but using a rainday to make him feel like he still has a part to play…
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Maybe if Girardi was that smart, but Ijust don’t think he’s that clever. It would be pretty funny if that is the deal tho.
Girardi is such a lousy manager. No wonder the Yankess have the worst record in the AL.
Dad,
Because they had lesser arms than Maris, who was a truly good outfielder.
I prefer to see Montero play, but I like this lineup.
I guess AJ’s not alone?
i think the point by the stupid AJ likes the lineup comment was that it would hurt Phil Hughes chances of winning, thus keeping AJ in the rotation. Pretty lame though…
re: Beckett….
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ml.....ecket-exam
Hunter is the kind of picture that Jesus struggles with – 4/seemer sinker inside, soft breaking stuff away. Good to give him a day off to clear his head
David in Cal September 6th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Girardi is such a lousy manager. No wonder the Yankess have the worst record in the AL.
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A parakeet could manage this team.
Maybe with the rain, Joe is doing Montero a favor and not putting him on the slippery field to slip and pull a Chien Ming Wang rounding the bases.
RayVT September 6th, 2011 at 4:57 pm
GreenBeret7 September 6th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
Could you imagine the 61 Yanks if they could have played with a DH? LOL! WOW!
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Yeah…Blanchard, Berra, Long and Mantle rotating in and out of the DH slot. Damned…that team had everything a team could want, didn’t it? Offense, defense, base running speed (they just didn’t steal many bases), 5 man rotation, bullpen with closer, short man, long man and swing man.
FREE JORGE !!!!
SI_JonHeyman 24 mins @ClintHolzner yes. very good player. but not #betterthangranderson
At least he realizes the error of his ways.
A parakeet could manage this team
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Does this apply to the Torre years as well?
BTX September 6th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Hunter is the kind of picture that Jesus struggles with – 4/seemer sinker inside, soft breaking stuff away. Good to give him a day off to clear his head…
so true, posada tends to struggle more from the monet/ bottacelli type…
YAY !!!!
Even if for some strange reason the Yankees allowed pitcher wins/losses to influence their decision, why would AJ root against his teammates?
2011 Strike Outs:
Austin Jackson 146
Curtis Granderson 148
Ys Guy September 6th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
arguing that nobody should base a rate of decline from the high point that set the standard for what arod is being paid is riduiculous.
and saying that his low water point shouldn’t be of concern because he was injured, when the point was that he is breaking down is equally ridiculous.
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thanks for taking a comment that was made as ‘not fair’ to something that is ‘ridiculous’ and excuse me for having an opinion.
Enjoy whatever pleasure you derive out of complaining.
How a relatively minor knee injury that needed arthroscopy and a jammed thumb because he dove for a ball equate to ‘breaking down’ is beyond me when the same injuries could hit someone in their 20s.
Did you actually expect Arod to continue to produce at a near record level for the rest of his contract?
Could anyone but an idiot (cue the Hank Steinbrenner entrace music, please) look at his career stats and base a contract on a career year?
If you can answer Yes to the above then I feel sorry for you.
Roger Maris was a very underrated outfielder. Well above average arm and positioned himself well.
Never saw a player with just an average lead off 1st base be able to motor to 3rd base on just a base hit. It was like trying to stop a freight train. Powerful legs.
JM September 6th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
re: Beckett….
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ml…..ecket-exam
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Hope Beckett doesn’t have that lisfranc thing. That would suck. I want the Sox at full strength.
ac1 September 6th, 2011 at 5:01 pm
i think the point by the stupid AJ likes the lineup comment was that it would hurt Phil Hughes chances of winning, thus keeping AJ in the rotation. Pretty lame though…
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Yep.
The yankees won yesterday, had a lot of offense, but I don’t see anyone singing the praises of Garcia’s performance yesterday, except the O’s.
It’s about what they see from their pitchers, not which pitcher has the best offense behind them.
I wonder if A-rod is okay. Was listening to the O’s feed and they mentioned A-rod limping.
Would like to see more of Montero, but if Posada has a shot at making the post season than he has to play.
GB7,
I don’t recall who the regular left fielder was that year. Was it Hector Lopez?
LGY September 6th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Does this apply to the Torre years as well?
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No.
mg wants to tear up my opinion and then says excuse me for having one…interesting.
sorry i didnt realize you were so sensitive. apologies.
and it makes me feel so much better that its hank’s fault, now i dont care about arods contract anymore..thanks….
i do NOT see the logic with montero not playing..i really do not.
why not ride the wave?
Staten Island Yankees playoff game 1 is rained out.
http://www.silive.com/siyankee.....d_o_2.html
2011 everything else.
Granderson: MVP
Jackson: not so much.
West Coast Yankee Fan says: September 6, 2011 at 5:09 pm
LGY September 6th, 2011 at 5:04 pm Does this apply to the Torre years as well?
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No.
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Why not?
Ys Guy September 6th, 2011 at 5:10 pm
mg wants to tear up my opinion and then says excuse me for having one…interesting.
sorry i didnt realize you were so sensitive. apologies.
and it makes me feel so much better that its hank’s fault, now i dont care about arods contract anymore..thanks….
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Taking things out of context, a LoHud specialty.
In the words of Erica, I am so done with this blog.
I’ll have fun watching the Yankees go for #28, #29, and so on.
I wonder how many of you will do the same.
Out, permanently.
Tom and GB, thanks for the help remembering. I forgot about having Hank in right and the need for the strongest arm possible there.
Tom, Lopez came to the Yanks in ’59, I believe. He played pretty much everywhere…left and third base mainly, but filled in at 2nd, right and center field… before Boyer took over. Not much glove, but he sure could hit.
wow, out permanently because i rebutted his argument against my point. sorry buddy i take it back, you’re right its all good because hank threw the money away….come back….PLEASE DONT LEAVE US…………….
The Mercury Strikes Back September 6th, 2011 at 5:07 pm
2011 Strike Outs:
Austin Jackson 146
Curtis Granderson 148
Give me the home run totals.
GreenBeret7 September 6th, 2011 at 5:03 pm
They sure did! It is the team I rank all others against! So much promise for years to come & they imploded. Yanks Traded Skowron, Maris, Terry, Lee Thomas, Blanchard, & Boyer, which really decimated the team IMO. I didn’t remember Long? Did you mean Lopez?
West Coast Yankee Fan September 6th, 2011 at 5:02 pm
David in Cal September 6th, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Girardi is such a lousy manager. No wonder the Yankess have the worst record in the AL.
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A parakeet could manage this team.
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a lot of people don’t realize that most players do not respect Girardi as a manager as much as they would someone tey didn’t play with. Girardi is also scared of upsetting his players, hence forcing posada in the lineup, not making changes when they should’ve been made, etc..
a little league manager can take a team of this calibur to the playoff’s ! Give me a break. Joe’s had his fair share of blunders this year and they are still in first place. It’s not like the manager has to swing the bat. GIrardi is lame, not to mention his canned media speeches.
I like his comment today about Montero hitting and how to be a good hitter.. hmmm didn’t work out to well for Joe when he was hitting now did it? Nothing like getting advice from a know-it-all that can’t perform what he’s tell you to do.
Girardi is ‘The Cooler’…..he often takes a hot hitter out of the lineup, and ices him on the bench.
# GreenBeret7 September 6th, 2011 at 4:52 pm
Dad,
Maris was traded from Cleveland to KC and from KC to NY a year and a half later.
Linz was basically a utility player…OK glove, not really a bat, except for the ’64 WS, though he did have a bit of power. Plays a mean “Mary Had A Little Lamb” on the harmonica.
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Yogi didn’t care for it though. LOL
# tomingeorgia September 6th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
GB7,
I don’t recall who the regular left fielder was that year. Was it Hector Lopez?
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I believe Tresh was regular LFer’ Lopez a great sub for sure. Didn’t he wear he number 11 ?
Tresh was number 23, I think.