Yankees postgame: Soggy retrospective
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Sep 07, 2011 
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It’s 2:45 in the morning. It’s still raining here. The Yankees knew they would have a chance to get this game in. The wait lasted four hours and three minutes to get to the first pitch at 11:08 p.m.
“I saw the window, and I thought it was going to be around 10:30, 11 o’clock,” Joe Girardi said after the 5-3 win over the Orioles, a game that ended at 2:15 a.m. “I guess baseball wanted us to wait.”
The preference was to wait and play (and they did in the rain and mist) and not have a day/night doubleheader today, especially with another dicey forecast.
“Doubleheaders are hard on your guys,” Girardi said. “They’re really hard. Jete made a good point. Maybe we should just start half an hour from now and get it out of the way. Both scenarios weren’t great. But now that it’s over, I’m glad it’s done.”
Phil Hughes said players passed the time playing cards or trying to figure out the window. Hughes laid down on a couch at about 8 p.m. and got up at 10, napping for about 45 minutes along the way. Then he allowed just two runs and five hits over six. He wasn’t overly impressed. The two-run homer he gave up in the sixth to Matt Wieters was still eating at him. But Hughes did well enough, especially considering the conditions weren’t great, especially during the fifth-inning downpour.
“It started to come down pretty hard; I think it was the (Nick) Markakis at-bat, the last out of the fifth,” Hughes said. “The ball was so slippery, I just threw a fastball and hoped that ended up somewhere around the plate. I got lucky. I got the ball over the plate and he popped it up.”
Girardi was pleased with Hughes.
“I thought he threw the ball well,” Girardi said. “I thought his curveball might have been the best we’ve seen it all year.”
*Francisco Cervelli hit two homers in the first 176 games and 471 at-bats of his career. Now he has three homers in his last four games, spanning 14 at-bats.
“I just think he’s gotten more comfortable, understands what pitchers are trying to do to him,” Girardi said. “He’s more experienced. He’s gotten stronger over the last couple of years. It’s just learning how to hit up here. I think he’s grown into it a little bit.”
*The Yankees now have a major-league-leading 200 homers, including 30 in their last 14 games.
*Jorge Posada now has three homers in his last six starts.
*Mariano Rivera now is 21 for 21 in save chances at home this season.
*The Yankees have won six straight and nine of 10 to move to a season-high 34 games above .500. They have taken a season-high six straight at home. They are also 13-3 vs. Baltimore, including 7-1 at home. They are 37-10 in their last 47 against the Orioles.
*Right now, weather.com lists a 60 percent chance of rain at 1 p.m. today, about when the series finale is supposed to start. It’s 60 percent at 2 p.m., then 50 percent at 3 p.m., then 30 percent at 4, 5 and 6. A.J. Burnett and Zach Britton are the scheduled starters.
*It’s 3:14 a.m. here in the press box. Still raining. Time to go home. Almost time to come back.
Carig is a funny guy. Great read.
Ledger_Yankees Marc Carig
I see a good portion of the fans have retreated to their row boats to beat traffic. #nyy
Nice win. The craziest plays happen in games like these. Always the case.
Morning crew gets to wake up to a nice victory. Be back at 1 for what I hope is the start to another Yankee victory.
Is anybody alive out there?
Fans have to petition Selig to end this nonsense of awarding wins to pitchers who come into a game and record a single out to get the win.
It must be obvious to everyone, the commissioner included, that Hughes far and away deserved the win yesterday. And I’m not saying this just because it was Hughes or the Yankees. There have been several games recently in which a starting pitcher clearly merited the win, only to leave with the game tied and have a middle reliever pick up the win after a couple of outs. The most blantant example of this – and it happens often enough – is when a starter pitches, for example, 8 solid innings (even an 8 inning shutout), is relieved in the 9th with the game tied and then sees his team score the winning run in the ninth and a closer pick up the win with a three out stint (even a shaky three out performance.)
Sure, it makes it dead simple for the official scorer and baseball officials in general, but it really is a travesty to continue this policy. Certainly there will be times when it will be difficult to determine who made the best pitching effort. Where there is a great deal of doubt about who pitched best, THEN you can award the game to the pitcher who was in the game when the go ahead run was scored (in other words, if EVEYONE pitched crappy.) But, in general, the winning pitcher should be the pitcher who pitched best according to the official scorer or, better yet, let’s say a three person panel of scorers,
regardless of what innings the hurler pitched.
The obvious major exception to this would be, of course, when the starter went a minimum five innings and left with a lead which was never relinquished after he left. The starter gets the win in that situation, even if his efforts were mediocre.
Would it sometimes create controversy? Sure. But isn’t that all the better? After all, Lohud would be a dead zone without controversy! Creating the occasional controversy gets fans talking about the game. Ergo, it’s good for the game. Best of all, it will eliminate this absurd policy of just giving the win to the guy who accidentally finds himself in the game just before the winning run is scored.
Don’t hold your breath on getting that rule changed.
Thanks, Brian. Hope you get some rest.
Crazy game all the way around. Players must hate double headers. But in this case, it was far from ideal.
Now that it’s all said and done, the Yankees must be happy with one more on the left side.
Groan. Sorry, I couldn’t resist.
I’m truly impressed by how many folks hung with it last night. I faded in the fifth. I was quite surprised to wake this morning, and to find that the game had gone the full nine innings. I’m glad that the guys made it through, and that nobody got hurt playing in that slop.
The Yanks are now in line to win three games in a 24-hour period, gaining at least a half game on the Sox, regardless of what they do…
Please tell me they didn’t have to do post game interviews after this ridiculously late game.
Ghostwriter -
I’m also impressed! The first thing I wanted to see this morning was that no one got hurt – of course, I wanted them to win, but first, no injuries.
No matter the rain and the long delay. Anytime you beat Buck and his crew the day is good
One more time again at 10 this morn.
Let’s hear it for the grounds crew. Wonder what time they got home last night and they have to be back this morning to have the field ready for a day game.
Man, the players will be BEAT today !…..Our Magic number will be 19 or less after the end of today, and maybe Mo will be only 3 away from passing Trevor, huh? Good Morning, All !
Certainly makes it better when you win at 2 AM…..I can’t believe they got all 9 in…the Yanks won and nobody got hurt so pretty much the best outcome you could hope for.. I checked out in the 7th but sounds like Gardy and Cervelli came up big and the pen shut it down after Logan.
Thought Hughes pitched well considering the conditions and the 4 hr delay….he didn’t have his good fastball but the CB was pretty good (aside from a few hangers) and he commanded the fastball well for the most part. He made a bone head pitch to Wieters which was hard to understand……but otherwise be was good.
Great win…..probably see some of that 40 man depth in todays game.
Good morning all on this soggy NE morning.
Time for the Yankees to distance themselves from the RS.
Sox pitching Wakefield then Miller against Morrow and Romero, then play Rays with Lackey vs Wade, Weiland vs. Hellickson and TBD vs Shields.
Question?
If the Yankees are able to add Montero to the post-season roster, as well as keep Posada on it, would they likely pare one pitcher and go with 11 for the ALDS?
wzup all. Good to see everyone.
any thoughts on this Vacaaro piece:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....um=twitter
I can’t believe it, waking up to a Yankees win. I gave up on the game being played. Glad they made the O’s hang around and play, after the way they treated the Yanks on playing those games last weekend.
Woke up to see the final 2 innings. My wife was surprised the game was still being played and asked why all teams don’t have retractable roofs with weather conditions changing everywhere.
Boston still 3 behind in the loss column and as Yogi says, ” It’s getting late early”.
vinny-b
I suppose any young player can fade, but Montero is no Maas or Spencer! Great swing, can hit to all fields. I think we’re looking at a career similar to Piazza if he stays healthy! Most exciting power hitter to come thru the Yankee system since Mantle.
Hi all. Great win last night-every time the oriole scored, we fought back. That said, MLB is a complete disgrace-they showed complete disregard for the health of the players. Once the game was official it should have been called
good morning
I will admit I didn’t see the game. Centerstage was still on when I went to bed. I did see the highlights on both espn and mlb network this am.
Po says hello to all who complained about him getiing some play time.
vinny-b
I think the piece makes sense, in you don’t get down if a young rookie takes time to adjust, and you don’t believe early success means there won’t be hard times ahead.
Montero has the talent, and we must remember he’s just 21 years old, and will struggle from time to time, as he adjusts to ML pitching, and learns the pitchers he faces.
My money is on Montero having a great career.
Time for the Yankees to distance themselves from the RS.
Sox pitching Wakefield then Miller against Morrow and Romero, then play Rays with Lackey vs Wade, Weiland vs. Hellickson and TBD vs Shields.
Would be terrific if the Yankees win the division with the best record in the AL. As of now it’s hard to predict who the playoff opponent would be as the Tigers and Rangers have almost identical records and the Angels are still in it.
I think the game would have been called if the heavy rain had kept up there in the 5th……but it slacked off and at that point that had to keep playing or Buck would have pitched a hissy fit (and probably would have been justified).
It was a crappy situation …….but win the weather forcast today Im sure they were afraid they’d just get one or both games of the double header rained out today and then that really makes a mess. It worked out good in the end as they got the game in and most importantly nobody got hurt.
Hi Kate
vinny-b
I thought the title of the article was a bit misleading. I was a expecting a piece that focused on telling people not to go overboard on expections. It did say that, but it didn’t focus on that. It was, I thought, a good summing up of the situation, exactly as it is. Which is, we won’t know for sure until the story unfolds, but this kid does have the talent, and while this article doesn’t say it, we’ve been hearing about the work that Montero is willing to do. So, we can be hopeful.
Betsy-
I’m with you. I’m glad the Yanks won but I think it was ridiculous to be playing in those conditions.
Blake, I disagree. Buck would not have any case. that was embarrasing
MTU-
I believe Selig told the teams to play, that there would be no DH today or make-up game at the end of the season. The Yankees have one day off before the ALDS starts.
YT-
Maybe Selig should have been out there then, eh ?
I have more respect for a turd floating in a punchbowl.
There was still no reason to not call the game after it was official
Maybe Selig should have been out there then, eh ?
I have more respect for a turd floating in a punchbowl
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LMAO
Agree. If it was his beloved Brewers, it would have been a different story.
YT-
I would have rescheduled the game to be played after the season as necessary.
It was ridiculous to endanger players under those conditions. Just wasn’t important enough.
This ain’t football.
The thing with calling the game after it was official is that it was never really appropriate to play the game at all, so in for a dime in for a dollar.
Gotta go and wake up the ladies. Still raining in Maine! The rain in Maine falls mainly , it’s a pain!!
Betsy,
He would have had no case if it had kept raining hard……but it quit. I think it was ridiculous as well that they played to start with……but this late in the season there just isn’t much wiggle room in the schedule. It was a tough situation and im just glad everyhing worked out ok……..after you start a game like that you can’t just stop it unless the conditions get significantly worse…..it looked like it was going to and then the rain lightened up.
YT-
Have a great day. Enjoy your vacation in the land of Lobsters and Moose.
Blake it didn’t quit…..but whatever, it is over and done with
The yanks are playing great ball right now
How many starts will Beckett miss ?
1. 2. maybe more ?
No worries though because the amazing Kyle Weiland will just step right in.
By the the way Terry. That sound you hear is the the Sux division chances going down the drain.
Couldn’t have happened to a nicer bunch.
As far as I could tell, it was raining any less after 11:00 pm than it was in the hours before 11:00pm
Edit:
It wasn’t raining any less…
Jeers-
We could have gone surfing. Didn’t even need to go to Ecuador.
I was more worried about the health of the bloggers than the players
Was that Fred Astaire dancing in the outfield last night?
Thank goodness for an I pad as this traffic would be unbearable without it
I haven’t gotten to see any of the Orioles series. I missed Monday’s game, was asleep for Tuesday’s and stuck at work for today’s and tomorrow’s.
Big Al,
Gene Kelly.
The Yankees have 6 starting Pitchers.
The Sux have how many ?
How is that possible Theo ?
I mean with you being such a flippin’ genius and all.
You wanna explain to us how you got caught with your pants down.
Oh, I know. Bad luck.
Yeah. That’s the ticket.
Villa Nova-Ya September 7th, 2011 at 8:28 am
Big Al,
Gene Kelly.
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Oh yeh, Dancing in the rain, dancing in the rain, what a wonderful feeling, I’m happy again.
There was still no reason to not call the game after it was official
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Would you have felt that way if the Yankees were behind?
Al-
The players really have gills behind their ears. Just like in the movie “Waterworld”.
Don’t tell anyone but I’ve heard a rumor that they have webbed feet too.
MTU -
Buckholtz said yesterday he doubts he’ll be ready to return by seasons end, or even the first round of PS play. That will hurt the RS, as you know the AAA pitchers will not carry them very long.
So Betsy is driving while playing around with her I Pad.
Triple yeah I’d like to think I would have
MTU -
If the players were race horses, we’d say they were good mudders.
Al-
Looks to me like the “little engine that could” is sputtering pretty badly.
What a shame. huh ?
Maybe next time Epstein will think twice before he trades away his farm.
They’re lucky they stole Aceves from us.
Bed around 3 after packing for the road trip and back at the stadium by 11:30 at the latest doesn’t leave a whole lot of time for sleep.
Today would have been a “leaded” morning in clubhouses around the league 10 years ago.
Um no but thanks for assuming I would do that
What I meant was that there was a period there around the bottom of 5 and top of 6 where the rain was really heavy…..if that would have kept up then they would have had no choice because the groundscrew and drainage systems couldn’t have kept up…..it lightened enough after that where they could get by…….these new stadiums drain so well
….they probably shouldn’t have played tonight……but 20 years ago it wouldn’t have even been possible I don’t think.
Inwards and upwards……we’ll see how Boston holds up here over the next week……the Yanks need to keep their foot on the throttle because its possible that if they keep playing well they coukd really put some distance between themselves and the Sox.
Mops need a walk, be back in a bit.
Al-
Yeah.
And if pigs could fly we’d say the Sux will be as good as the Yankees from here on out.
Onward
You can’t just call a game right away.
You have to call for the tarp and wait at least 45 minutes or an hour (I forget the exact time) before making a final decision.
They did the right thing to just play through.
Jorge is definitely a mudder……the rain didn’t slow him down at all
Blake-
Care to answer for Epstein as to why the annointed ones plan’s blew up right in their faces ?
Heartbreaking really.
Perhaps you could explain it for our audience.
LGY,
Yea that’s what I mean…..the umpires aren’t just going to say……were through the top of 5 and the Yanks are winning…..let’s call it. Had they done that it would have been the lead on sportscenter and very controversial …….the Orioles would have pitched a fit.
Jorge is so slow that the mud made him faster
“the Orioles would have pitched a fit.”
Should we care after the way they treated us when the tables were turned ?
Blake it doesn t matter that the yanks had the lead…. This is not about that
the player that the yankees can least afford to lose if they play texas in the playoffs is russell martin.
if martin was injured and couldn’t play, texas would run wild on cervelli who has the 88th worst caught stealing percentage in the major leagues.
you won’t find what texas would do by looking at what they did against cervelli in the regular season. they would wait until they needed it.
it would destroy the pitching staff trying to hold runners on with cervelli catching if he continues to throw out only 11% of runners.
he can’t possibly be this bad. yankee coaching should be working with him everyday trying to improve his throwing.
the yankees can win regular season games with cervelli catching, but when the post season comes, teams that can run will press every advantage and look for every weak spot. cervelli’s throwing is so bad it has to be fixed because the yankees are locked into having him as the back up right now.
without a significant improvement in cervelli’s throwing between now and the playoffs, every yankee fan should pray that martin stays healthy throughout the playoffs. he really is the player the yankees can least afford to lose for the playoffs.
MTU,
I was talking about before the season how the Red Sox had a lot of injury risk on their club…..everyone just expected them to be healthy this year but the fact is that the best predictor for future injury risk is part history of injuries……the Sox still have a good team and they are dangerous…..but they never were as good as they we’re being made out even when they were healthy……..Theo admitted in ST that they were very thin in Starting pitching 4-10. The top is good when healthy but the have zero organizational pitching depth and that’s rearing its ugly head with the injuries they have.
They can’t pitch very well so pitching a fit would have gotten them nowhere
IMO Martin should have started last night
There’s actually a big surfing competition here in in Long Beach but to me Ecuador is all about the roast pork sandwiches.
Betsy-
You are upping your game.
Blake-
We should print that in the Herald so the long suffering Sox fans will know why their
fearless leader has let them down. It really should not have been possible.
Not bad for four hours of sleep lol
Rand, if Texas isn’t careful, they’ll be watchig the games at home. The Angels are just 3 and a half games behind them.
Betsy,
But they can’t just call a game when it becomes official…..you have to wait etc…..when they decided to start the game the had to try and get it in.
morning all! so where are all the armchair geniuses who insisted that girardi was an idiot for starting posada last night?
GB-
Maybe Wilson goes deer hunting early this year.
GB7 -
The Rangers face the Angels the last 3 games, on the road, but the remainder of their schedule is an easy one.
Betsy,
Yea I feel pretty good right now….it’ll hit me later today
Randy,
Totally agree.
Hell, it wasn’t that late. Most of the players would have been out on the town using Jeter’s Visa Card anyway.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yH7BaQEguYs
“morning all! so where are all the armchair geniuses who insisted that girardi was an idiot for starting posada last night?”
I suggested they should start both Posada and Montero….but Cervelli got the big homer so that worked out as well.
randy l. -
In 2009 Cervelli had a 43% CS record, which is great. What happened to him after that is a mystery.
Blake ok i get that but I still dosn,t
gb7-
the angels would be as much trouble stealing bases if martin went down and cervelli were the starter.
maybe cashman and girardi are being super stealth telling cervelli to throw away balls in the regular season that don’t matter and then when opposing teams try to steal a key base in a playoff game whammo!!! cervelli throws the guy out.
they guy they can least afford to lose is cc.
Don’t think it was mlb’s finest hour
Randy-
Cervelli with the head fake and the Deke.
Randy, which team do you think would give NY more trouble, Texas bats or Angels pitching with Weaver, Santana and Haren?
Am I missing something? Did Cervelli have a bad throw last night?
big al-
yes exactly. what has happened to cervelli’s throwing since 2009. weird.
i just think it’s a false sense of security having a back up this bad at throwing out runners that they can win regular season games despite it.
the playoffs would expose the problem. unless it was against detroit who doesn’t run much.
Not having watched the game, did Cervelli not throw a runner out last night or something?
GB-
That’s a loaded question.
Watch it Randy he’s trying to set you up.
Villa Nova- we had the same thought.
I think its time to rethink how they use Logan……he’s a fine short reliever…..he’s just not a guy you bring in to face one LH hitter because he’s just not that great at getting them out……I think they should just use him as a LH reliever…….and not necessarily as a LOOGY. Robertson is their best reliver against lefties.
Teams have played until 4:30 in the morning before and in bad weather. Nobody got hurt, they lost a little sleep and they won. They losing team’s going to feel that one more.
gb7-
i’d rather the yankees play texas, but mostly because the angels have been such a pain in the playoffs in past years.
Blake-
Robertson is their best reliever against the World not named Mo.
I think the Rangers are a much more balanced team than LA……much better offense. However the Yanks match up better against Texas pitching with all those lefties.
Erin, Cervelli never had a chance to throw eunners out. Hughes wasn’t holding the runners.
he also didn’t throw and ***runners*** out
I don’t care who we play – I’ve come around to the idea that whoever it is needs to start worrying about us more than we need to worry about them….of course, if our offense runs and hides again, we’ll have a tough time keeping up with the Joneses
Spelling is bad this morning. I guess it got early pretty late this morning.
Oh, I see. Thanks GB.
I guess I’m still not getting all of the complaining about Cervelli. How dare he hit a HR and how dare they win the game!!!
randy l. -
At first I thought it would be tough facing Verlander twice in a 5 game series, until I looked up his numbers. The Yankees have done a good job against him this year, and the team in the east he’s been toughest on is the RS. Besides, even if we lost the first game to Verlander, we could still close them out in 4 games, and not face him in a game 5.
Given a choice, I’d rather face the Tigers in the first round, and let the RS and Rangers battle it out, and hope the Rangers take that series.
“Am I missing something? Did Cervelli have a bad throw last night?”
i’m thinking of the play offs.
cervelli has a season long throwing problem. actually a two year problem.
you can’t find a worse throwing catcher if you try.
if the yankees wanted to create some insurance if martin were injured and couldn’t play in the playoffs, they’d let montero catch some games now in case martin is injured.
surely, they don’t want montero making his catching debut in a play off game trying to stop another team running wild on cervelli.
“Given a choice, I’d rather face the Tigers in the first round, and let the RS and Rangers battle it out, and hope the Rangers take that series.”
big al-
that sounds good to me. i especially like the part about the red sox losing to the rangers
Randy-
That requires planning ahead.
Let’s just be reactive.
I came home from a bar last night around 1:30, collapsed into bed and checked to see who won. I turned in just in time to watch Cervelli and Gardner hit their blasts, then fell fast asleep.
It was a good night all around.
MTU -
At the risk of sounding sacrilegious, right now I’d prefer D-Rob over Mo with game 7 of the WS on the line, JMHO.
Al-
Go to your corner and pray for forgiveness.
I will always take mo in any spot big or small
i agree that cervelli is a disaster at controlling the running game, but i dont see the situation as being that dire. texas doesnt have lee this year and the young pitchers they do have are faltering under the workload. put up a 5 spot and that shuts down the running game.
cc is the guy we cant lose.
Al-
Be sure to be contrite and also say ten Hail Mo’s.
randy l. -
With all the talk about Montero only throwing out 20% of runners, that’s still better than Cervelli’s 11%, if he’s that high to date.
As you said before, Martin is the man to control the running game, and we need him rested and healthy for the PS.
The Yankees are better than the Tigers……they’d just need CC to beat Verlander one of the 2 times they faced off…..certainly doable.
Love the feel of this team…..they are deep and they can win games in a lot of different ways……if they can get just enough starting pitching they’ll be tough in October.
Girardi was pleased with Hughes.
“I thought he threw the ball well,” Girardi said. “I thought his curveball might have been the best we’ve seen it all year.”
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Here you go Jerkface. Looks like you missed yet another one.
“I guess I’m still not getting all of the complaining about Cervelli.”
there’s not a lot of complaining about cervelli. i’m alone in saying he sucks at throwing out runners.
you like having a catcher who is the 88th worst catcher in the major leagues at throwing out runners ?
if i’m the opposing manager against a powerhouse like the yankees in the playoffs, i’d look for weaknesses to attack.
cervelli’s throwing is a glaring weakness that can be exploited in the playoffs.
of course, whats the chance of anything happening to martin? starting catchers never get hurt right.
Wally matthews must be smoking something to even suggest the yanks got lucky … Cervelli’s hr was clearly out
MTU -
Father Mike, please forgive me, for I have sinned.
Cervelli has been a better hitter than a catcher since last year…..
With the way Martin always flinging his body all over the place all the time it’s a wonder
he hasn’t spent most of his life in traction or a full body cast.
By the way, there was one catcher who threw worse than Cervelli.
It was Salty. For a while there he had the yips. Too bad he’s cured now.
randy l. September 7th, 2011 at 9:20 am
i?m thinking of the play offs.
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Cervelli will make 1, maybe 2 starts in the playoffs, no? I’m just not seeing what the big deal is.
If their hopes of winning a playoff game is hinging on Francisco Cervelli throwing out runners, they’ve got much bigger problems.
even if cervelli’s wasnt a hr (which it was) it would have been a double. the guy wasnt even close to catching it. so runners on 2nd and 3rd and gardern coming up (who proceeded to hit the fair pole in RF). so even if you’re a yankee hater and you think it was interference, it doesnt follow that they were lucky to win.
randy l. -
“of course, whats the chance of anything happening to martin? starting catchers never get hurt right.”
What’s that guys name in SF? You’re right, a tough position to play, and very prone to injury. We need Martin for his arm, but, perhaps more for his game calling, a smart C.
Al-
You sound like you are truly sorry. All is forgiven.
P.S. D-Rob is really good.
Martin will catch every playoff game
Cervelli has done a great job especially at the plate.
“That requires planning ahead.
Let’s just be reactive.”
mtu-
that’s right. plus if martin went down in the post season, montero wouldn’t have time to develop any bad habits catching a few games in the regular season.
he could go right into a post season game with a clean slate.
all kidding aside, if martin stays healthy, the back up catcher’s throwing ability is a non issue.
it’s my nature to scan the horizon for things that can go wrong and plan for it.
i like back up plans for my back up plans.
blake -
Great, let’s make Cervelli a part time DH, or a good bat off the bench, but come PS, I want Martin behind the plate for all games, unless there’s a blowout.
West Coast Yankee Fan September 7th, 2011 at 9:28 am
Girardi was pleased with Hughes.
“I thought he threw the ball well,” Girardi said. “I thought his curveball might have been the best we’ve seen it all year.”
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Here you go Jerkface. Looks like you missed yet another one.
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It’s a little early to start your BS, you jackass. Give people a break and Eff off.
“Martin will catch every playoff game”
Blake. Finish the sentence …….while Jesus continues to pepper the opposing team’s
scoreboard.
No need to thank me. I fixed it for ya’.
Not only is Cervelli hitting HRs but he should have had 2 last night. Both were held up by that gale blowing left to right. I think his wrist is finally getting healthy. Cervelli with power. What a nice dilemna.
The Long dimension strikes again
“Martin will catch every playoff game”
what if he gets hurt?
randy l -
Okay. This is about thinking ahead. Looking for achilles’ heels.
I really do wish someone could explain how a catcher who was all about defense completely loses it (for the most part), especially with throws. I wouldn’t jump to the conclusion that he’s not working on it – I can’t imagine they don’t. Wouldn’t it be a kick if Cervelli found his throwing mojo again?
Cervelli’s throwing is a weak link, and sure, starting catchers do get hurt, but I don’t think the outlook is as grim as you paint, Randy.
I do also think that Montero is going to catch a few games before the season ends. I think it was a good sign that Girardi watched him catch yesterday.
It’s a little early to start your BS, you jackass. Give people a break and Eff of.
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Cervelli has done a good job as a hitter this year, but, he still lacks the skills to be called anything but a mediocre catcher.
what if he gets hurt?
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what if he doesn’t?
Okay, just saw a Cervelli throw on the replay. To the SS side of second, but at least it didn’t sail into the outfield.
On the same topic, in order to keep Martin fresh, I don’t think it was a bad idea to give Cervelli the start last night.
randy-
I’d go further. I like a back up to the back up of the backup.
But hey, I’m greedy. I admit that.
Randy,
Don’t say that
if he gets hurt then you have to catch Cervelli and hope for the best as they don’t seem.like they are going to give Montero a chance there.
MTU,
Yes that too…..
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I like Cervelli but he can be maddening at times. There were two balls last night that should have (not could have) been blocked easily and he let them both get away. And he really struggles to throw people out. Back up catchers are supposed to be very good on defense and that hasnt been the case with him for almost 2 years. He’s lucky he’s been hitting lately (not something I expect to continue over his career) because he’s brought value with his bat.
Erin September 7th, 2011 at 9:40 am
what if he gets hurt?
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what if he doesn’t?
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Erin, stop being a trouble maker so early in the morning with confusing questions.
everybody gets a pass for whatever happened in the pouring rain in the wee hours this morning. cervelli has been a disaster at throwing out runners but judging him by last night’s work (behind the plate) is unfair.
Gee, just a short while ago Nunez was mediocre. Players improve all the time. 2009 Cervelli wasn’t mediocre coming up from effectively A ball after a wrist injury lost year. I would consider a possibility of an injury causing the problem.
GreenBeret7 September 7th, 2011 at 9:43 am
Erin, stop being a trouble maker so early in the morning with confusing questions.
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Sorry, GB
trying to remember the last time a yankees starting catcher was unable to play in a PS series….
if that’s what the rangers have to hang their hat on, things are looking pretty good for us.
“Cervelli will make 1, maybe 2 starts in the playoffs, no? I’m just not seeing what the big deal is.”
you’re right. starting catchers never get injured.
plus pointing out potential problems ahead of time is such a waste of time.
… and having montero catch some games in case he had to catch in the playoffs would be an absolute waste of time. there is so much downside to having montero get some experience ahead of time.
every inning between now and the playoffs is too important to let montero catch an inning here and there.
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Why is it this blog can go all morning, with pleasant conversation, until WCYF arrives?
Does he not understand, he’s the problem on this board, that consistently creates the turmoil and discord? Perhaps that’s the real reason he comes here!
Posada caught every playoff game last year
Later folks – y’all have a great day.
You Chicago girls are always trying to trick people with your innocence.
I’m sorry – cracking up here. Watching the game replay and they just showed players on the bench. Many of them chewing stuff and working it around their mouths. Can’t help but think of chimps in the zoo! LOL
Nice HR for Jorge, too.
” Can’t help but think of chimps in the zoo!”
Just take a look into the Sux dugout sometime.
Wonder why MLB didn’t work the schedule so that the Yankees played the Sunday night game on the 10 year anniversary of 9/11……the Mets are playing it instead.
randy l. September 7th, 2011 at 9:45 am
you?re right. starting catchers never get injured.
plus pointing out potential problems ahead of time is such a waste of time.
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Ummm…nowhere did I say that they shouldn’t have a backup plan if Martin goes down.
But, whatever. Go ahead and keep predicting your doomsday scenarios.
GreenBeret7 September 7th, 2011 at 9:47 am
You Chicago girls are always trying to trick people with your innocence.
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from what Girardi has said, he does intend to get Montero behind the plate before the playoffs. In the meanwhile, he is catching their BPs to get familiar w/ them. Maybe he see him in Nova’s next start? He has caught Nova quite a bit in the minors.
i would not be surprised if jesus never starts at catcher for the yankees. i think he’s gonna end up in the OF.
Can’t Montero chew bubble gum and hit homers at the same time.
I bet he can. In fact I know he can.
Y’s-
Do you think he has the footspeed ?
mtu, no, but he does have the bat.
Montero would likely be a pretty poor outfielder…..he just doesn’t run very well. The Yanks are placing much more value on defense in recent years so I don’t we’d that one. I think.a realistic plan might be to try and get a few years at C/DH out of him.and then transition him to 1B when Tex’s contract ends. That would be him there are he approaches his prime…..
He kinda needs both for that job.
no he doesnt, plenty of slow-as-molasses OF’ers with great bats throughout baseball history.
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With an hour advantage over you east coasters, I managed to make it to the 7th inning. Once it got tied, off to bed.
Hughes was not throwing hard. He maxed at 92, I think, and was consistently at 91 until the 6th when he never threw over 90. He was generally sitting at 88-89 that inning, and I was not surprised he got hit. His curveball was good. He got a lot of swings and misses on it.
The lineup today will be interesting. Girardi will rest his players as much as possible. Let’s hope for Montero although Jorge swung the bat well.
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Granted that CC started 2 of the games but Yankees are 3-0 in games against Texas that Cervelli has caught this year and 32-10 in Cervelli caught games overall this year.
That would be him there are he approaches his prime…..
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Hittin’ the nitrous oxide bottle a little early, aren’t you Blake?
Y’s-
I agree with Blake. With the increased emphasis on D I don’t see the Yankees
putting a slow as molasses Of’er in right
Great bat or not.
Other things is we have absolutely no idea if he can shag ‘em.
I see Montero as a C/DH/1B type like some of the others.
To bad he isn’t quick or he could make a 3rd baseman with his arm.
new one ==>
MTU -
Montero couldn’t be any slower than A-Rod is these days.
“But, whatever. Go ahead and keep predicting your doomsday scenarios.”
you sound like a mortgage broker in 2006 selling people variable-rate mortgages