Yankees pregame: More on lineup
Posted by: Brian Heyman - Posted in Misc on Sep 07, 2011 
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So the lineup looks right out of a spring training game at Legends Field, complete with names like Laird, Golson, Pena and Nunez. But it all stems from this last game that ended at 2:15 a.m.
“We had guys probably get to bed at 4 o’clock in the morning,” Joe Girardi said. “Asking them to turn around and play a game, you’re risking a lot.”
Girardi said it was still a tough call.
“We’re trying to win the division,” Girardi said. “We’re still sending out guys who can play.”
Montero is in the lineup, s’all good.
If the game is close late… I’d imagine there will be lots of pinch hitting.
NotHankStein I really enjoyed last night’s 11pm start. I usually wake up at about 7pm from the previous night’s bender so it worked for me!
60% chance of rain until 5pm… would it be wrong if I rooted for a delay so they don’t start til we all get home from work?
“We’re trying to win the division,” Girardi said.
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Now that’s good to hear. Actually very good to hear.
Montero being in there is enough for me to watch…..wouldn’t shock me to see that lineup.score some runs.
I don’t have a problem with Girardi, but it still doesn’t hide the fact that those with tickets today are going to be disappointed with so many substitutions with minor league players.
ID – Not at all. Maybe if we root collectively it’ll happen (root root root)!
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Joe,
It’s not like your players are working 12 hour shifts in a foundry.
Poor Swisher
“Asking them to turn around and play a game, you’re risking a lot”
I guess they don’t care if they risk swish
jeter, grandy tex chavez on the bench, O’s bullpen…im not too concerned as long as aj keeps it close…
If you have a ticket you get to see Montero and Arod at least…..that’s pretty cool
Good point about Swisher.
blake – That’s more excitement than Mariner and Astro fans get with their A lineup.
If I had to guess I would say Swisher probably volunteered to play.
I’m curious.
Not that i care about the lineup, but why does Swish have to play when everyone else who started last night doesnt? Too tired to look it up, but did they only have 8 players that could come in today?
I expect some substitutions if the game is close and the opportunity presents itself for the Yankees to win this game.
These “pick the names out of a hat” lineups are usually good for at least 10 runs.
I would have played Posada at first but other than that it’s Montero Day so who cares?
Swisher has enough energy to play 24 hourse straight I think.
Swisher’s the Energizer Bunny.
Joe,
It’s not like your players are working 12 hour shifts in a foundry.
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True but baseball is different. Your mind needs to be sharp and awake – just imagine trying to hit a 95 mph fastball on 4 hours sleep. Working in a foundry, or other blue collar jobs, yeah you need to be awake but you don’t need 100% of your mental sharpness.
Swisher drinks enough Red Bull to play 24 hours straight.
“blake –That’s more excitement than Mariner and Astro fans get with their A lineup.”
No doubt……
Not that i care about the lineup, but why does Swish have to play when everyone else who started last night doesnt? Too tired to look it up, but did they only have 8 players that could come in today?
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They have Dickerson..
As long as Jeter is in the lineup when I attend games I’m usually happy.
“Working in a foundry, or other blue collar jobs, yeah you need to be awake but you don’t need 100% of your mental sharpness.”
You ever work in a foundry? I have, if you don’t stay mental sharp, you can lose your life.
True but baseball is different. Your mind needs to be sharp and awake – just imagine trying to hit a 95 mph fastball on 4 hours sleep. Working in a foundry, or other blue collar jobs, yeah you need to be awake but you don’t need 100% of your mental sharpness.
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I dunno about this, if you dont have 100% of your mental sharpness in baseball you strike out. If you don’t have 100% of your mental sharpness in a foundry you get steam pressed.
Hope Montero blast one out to third deck
Swish just got some rest a couple games back, I bet he doesn’t play tomorrow.
Kangaroo Court sentence for Swish for not knowing there was 1 out when he bunted.
Comparing the jobs of athletes to the everyday working man… never works guys.
That’s very insensitive, Patrick.
My uncle lost his left arm in a foundry accident. To this day he refuses to tell me what a foundry is.
I dunno about this, if you dont have 100% of your mental sharpness in baseball you strike out. If you don’t have 100% of your mental sharpness in a foundry you get steam pressed.
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I don’t care about the latter, but if the one of my players strikes out I will rage on the internet. So which is more important?
I don’t even know what a foundry is, is it like a bunch of inventors founding stuff?
What else is there to talk about then?
I’m curious to see who Showalter ‘risks’….his lineup will most likely be stacked with his regulars..
“Kangaroo Court sentence for Swish for not knowing there was 1 out when he bunted.”
Lol…..good point.
pat-I was just thinking about that the other night-have they done Kangaroo Court yet this year?
pat – good call
Pretty amazing that Strasburg already pretty much has his velocity nearly all the way back
Swisher+Red Bull-he’ll be ready to play.
Not much history against Britton. The all righty lineup will be filled with players he never faced.
Attached Yankee batting stats against Zach Britton:
http://espn.go.com/mlb/player/.....ch-britton
“I don’t even know what a foundry is, is it like a bunch of inventors founding stuff?”
That was obvious when you made your comment. A foundry is a very dangerous place. In some foundries, they pour molten metal at temperatures of 2000 degrees.
Nick in SF September 7th, 2011 at 12:00 pm
That?s very insensitive, Patrick.
My uncle lost his left arm in a foundry accident. To this day he refuses to tell me what a foundry is.
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Really wish I hadn’t taken a sip of water as I read that.
Many in today’s lineup faced Britton in the minor leagues.
“My uncle lost his left arm in a foundry accident. To this day he refuses to tell me what a foundry is.”
Losing limbs is a common cause of injury in a foundry.
Blake-
Maybe they gave him the Bartolo treatment to go with the TJ ?
Given a choice between exhausted veterans or fresh call ups, I am happy to see the youngsters get a chance.
MTU,
Its pretty crazy…..its only been.about a year……he’s already back.where he was……or.close to it….just an incredible talent.
blake – he looked a little rusty yesterday (to be expected), but still overall… damn impressive stuff.
So what did we learn today kiddies?
Stay in school and study hard or you will loose one or more limbs toiling in a foundry 12 hours per day.
I hope Buck starts his regulars and the Yanks still pound them.
He’s damn lucky they fix these things as easily as they do today.
By the way, does that mean Joba will be back to 97-98 ?
Also kinda excited to see AJ pitch……to see if he can build on his last start.
That was obvious when you made your comment. A foundry is a very dangerous place. In some foundries, they pour molten metal at temperatures of 2000 degrees.
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Um wow. You thought I seriously didn’t know what a foundry is? I’m not an idiot
MTU,
We can hope…..
He’s damn lucky they fix these things as easily as they do today.
By the way, does that mean Joba will be back to 97-98 ?
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Or in the rotation?
ID,
Yea a little rusty ….but still 96-99, didn’t walk anybody…..impressive.
Would much rather have seen this kind of lineup in Baltimore tomorrow. People are paying good money to watch the Yanks play at home today.
baldvinny
Even if I start practicing now, the chances I get thru roll call error free are slim
I wish they’d build Joba back as a starter…..alas.
“Stay in school and study hard or you will loose one or more limbs toiling in a foundry 12 hours per day.”
Actually, I stayed in school and got my degree and then had a good career in manufacturing management which included at least 30 years managing foundries. Made a lot of money, but always respected heavy equipment and molten metal.
If you’re in the pinstripes, are you not a Yankee?
I’d be more annoyed I paid to see Aj pitch.
Adam Jones is not in the starting lineup Wednesday afternoon against the Yankees.
He’ll get the day off with the quick turnaround from Tuesday’s rain-soaked game.
J.J. Hardy and Matt Wieters are also out of the lineup Wednesday afternoon.
Sep 7 – 12:06 PM Source: Brittany Ghiroli on Twitter
I was wondering how many Orioles will be out of today’s lineup.
Shame Spencer September 7th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
If you’re in the pinstripes, are you not a Yankee?
I’d be more annoyed I paid to see Aj pitch.
Fair point, Shame! It’s going to be interesting to see whether he can build on his start in Boston or whether that proves to be a one-hit wonder. I’m hoping the former but suspect the latter.
If Hardy and WeiterS are out, that would be good news!
Ill take Yankee prospects + Arod and Swisher over Orioles prospects.
Make you wonder about people who crawl down into the bellies of smoldering Volcanoes doesn’t it ?
They don’t even get paid a lot of times.
Is it raining? Are they gonna start on time?
Blake-
I asked that before.
All I heard was crickets.
Blake im on 125th and no rain at this time.
It looks like showers, but not steady rain like last night.
very slight mist here, just west of newark
YankeesWeather The game is currently scheduled to start on time.
Vlad is not in the lineup either.
Thanks guys…..maybe they can get it in on time and get on down to Baltimore……
Maybe he’s letting the regulars sleep in. If the game hasn’t started due to inclement weather, then he can pencil in some “new” guys before lineups are exchanged?
Everybody responds to you Blake.
You must have “pull”.
Doc.
Irreverent Discourse September 7th, 2011 at 11:52 am
The only jackass here today was an old man that can’t read the rules.
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MTU,
Lol….not so much.
MTU,
Sorry, I missed your post.
Vlad had a beauty parlor appoinment.
Everyone who finished last nights game seems to have gotten the day off. Probably Mo as well. Swisher was lifted for defense, so he plays.
Craw-
You’re probably lucky.
Girardi was pleased with Hughes.
“I thought he threw the ball well,” Girardi said. “I thought his curveball might have been the best we’ve seen it all year.”
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Once again señor Jerkface is humiliated as his lack of understanding of the game of baseball is revealed once again.
His CB hasn’t been very good in general this year though…..he threw some good ones last night
Yeah, can’t see Mo pitching three straight days. Who closes if they have a lead late? Soriano?
bruceb – I have the same expectations on AJ. I want to see him build on what he had going on in Boston but to say I’m going into this with tempered optimism is an understatement..
“I thought his curveball might have been the best we’ve seen it all year”
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That’s not saying a lot – his curve has been inconsistent at best in most of his starts. He still needs to go to the faster one, as Jerk said yesterday.
Yup and even in yesterdays start the orioles hit it for a hard line drive or took it for a ball too often. He managed to get Chris Davis, Andino, and Reynolds with the slow curve, but those guys strike out a lot. To get better hitters like Wieters/Markakis/The Red Sox he needs a faster curve. Hughes himself said as much, even after a start in which someone on here was crowing about how good the curve was. Speed differential in baseball. If merely throwing a slow with a lot of break was the key to success there would be more eephus pitches. Fact is, most people don’t throw the curve as slow as Hughes did last night.
Hughes’ CB was inconsistent even last night. He threw some nice ones that disappeared, others that broke too early and weren’t as sharp on the break. For a stretch there, he couldn’t get them to bite cos they were too far off the plate. I was happy though to see some real good ones mixed in there.
My Rx for Hughes:
1 Develop a splitter
2 Drop the cutter and go with a 2 seamer
And of course, go to API in the OS. Target the shoulder area.
Get in the BSOYL.
JM September 7th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Yeah, can?t see Mo pitching three straight days. Who closes if they have a lead late? Soriano?
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I would think either Soriano or Robertson
Were either of them in last night’s game? Damn sleep. I missed everything!
Is Markakis the only impact bat in the O’s lineup tonight?
D-rob pitched the 8th
Hughes was like 72 with the CB earlier in the year…..he was 74/75 with it last night which was.better……threw some tight ones at that speed. However, he’d be more effective with a tight 78-80 mph hook……it just gives the hitter less time to decide.
Joe G is sugar-coating Hughes’ outing last night. I think if he had been up against the Red Sox or the Rangers, he’d have been out of the game before the end of the fourth inning. Some of the O’s hitters helped him out big time.
Would love to see Brackman get an inning today.
Jerkface September 7th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Hughes himself said as much, even after a start in which someone on here was crowing about how good the curve was.
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That is not true I saw his post-game and Hughes said he was happy with his curveball. Girardi said it might have been the best he has thrown it all year.
Once again you are wrong and can’t admit it.
Considering the conditions, Hughes did a pretty nice job with his breaking ball.
Quote from the thread headline:
“More on lineup”
It is not. I think it’s excellent ! Not a thing dumb about it.
I take what Girardi says w/ a grain of salt as he never throws a player under the bus.
Hughes pitched well….and he did throw some nice CBs considering its tough to spin the ball when its wet like that…..but it coukd still use some improvement and he needs to get more consistent with it.
I’m tired of the fragile egos on this board. The discussion is a bore – it’s not about baseball, it’s about some dumb struggle some engage in and imagine they’ve actually won something or come off well.
WCYF – They also said Burnett had his best start in weeks. Does that mean he’s good now? Your logical fallacies and traps are ridiculous.
Did Hughes throw a cutter last night?
upstate kate September 7th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
I take what Girardi says w/ a grain of salt as he never throws a player under the bus.
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Again, not accurate. I see Girardi all the time in his post game make realistic and critical comments about a pitcher’s stuff. “Burnett didn’t have his curveball tonight”, or Garcia’s splitter didn’t have it’s usual bite”.
steady light rain in nnj now
Jury’s out on Hughes until he gains back his arm strength next season, at least that’s how I feel. I’m happy he’s even pitching, at this point, and I still have high hopes for him next year and beyond.
“Hughes himself said as much, even after a start in which someone on here was crowing about how good the curve was.”
People did the same thing after the Cleveland start – talked about how “crisp” his curve looked.
Yeah, it looked so crisp that Hughes himself said on the postgame that it was awful and he has to change it again to get it back to what it was because it was too loopy.
upstate kate September 7th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
D-rob pitched the 8th
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Thanks Kate.
I don’t know how some of you stayed up to watch that game. I’d be completely dead to the world today if I had.
JAP-
I’m sorry Man. Please forgive me.
Hughes did manage to throw 6 quality innings…..without his good velo, in terrible conditions……Ill take it.
another day another attempt by WCnonYF to annoy everyone
Irreverent Discourse September 7th, 2011 at 12:44 pm
WCYF – They also said Burnett had his best start in weeks. Does that mean he’s good now? Your logical fallacies and traps are ridiculous.
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This is about a specific pitch in a specific game not a glittering generality about a pitcher’s overall effectiveness. Poor thinking on your part and logical and accurate on mine.
1. I know a good curveball when I see one and last night Hughes had a very good one.
2. Singleton and Flash said the same thing last night, that Hughes had a very good curve ball.
3. Girardi said the same thing, that it might have been Hughes best curve ball all year.
4. Hughes said in the post-game he was pleased with his curve ball.
Bojo isn’t here anymore apparently ….so he’s trying to find a new nemesis
upstate kate September 7th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
another day another attempt by WCnonYF to annoy everyone
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Sorry that logic and reality disturbs you. Perhaps you might want to go elsewhere if you don’t like it.
“Again, not accurate. I see Girardi all the time in his post game make realistic and critical comments about a pitcher’s stuff. “Burnett didn’t have his curveball tonight”, or Garcia’s splitter didn’t have it’s usual bite”.”
But that happens after they have bad starts and he has to rationalize it.
When a pitcher has even a decent start, Girardi raves about how their stuff was. Some guys like Leyland are critical even in wins, Girardi fluffs guys whenever they do decent enough.
MTU September 7th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
JAP-
I’m sorry Man. Please forgive me.
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MTU, what for?
I think Hughes should drop the CB and go with a Gyroball(Im sure its pronounce year-O-ball).
Didnt watch the game last night. Did Swisher go splish splashing during the rain delay.
Damn This post has got me hungry and its not even 10 yet.
WCYF – So Hughes can only throw his best curveball in the rain when his velocity is down? What sense does that make, and how is that useful?
Having your “best curveball” when you’ve been throwing BP curveballs all season is not an accomplishment to be proud of.
logic and reality do not disturb me at all
blake September 7th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
Bojo isn’t here anymore apparently ….so he’s trying to find a new nemesis
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Really? Debating whether or not Hughes had a good curve ball last night is apparently an issue for you.
Girardi is just a parakeet.
Who cares what he says?
“Really? Debating whether or not Hughes had a good curve ball last night is apparently an issue for you.”
Yes….I feel very passionately about it. I was joking.
Irreverent Discourse September 7th, 2011 at 12:50 pm
WCYF – So Hughes can only throw his best curveball in the rain when his velocity is down? What sense does that make, and how is that useful? Having your “best curveball” when you’ve been throwing BP curveballs all season is not an accomplishment to be proud of
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He had a good curve ball last night. Period.
JAP-
I was trying to inject a little levity into today thread.
Searching for a quantum of solace.
My humor frequently falls flat. My apology.
how far can you really take hughes’ outing though
he went what, barely 5 innings @100ish pitches
Even burnett’s blowout went basically as well
blake September 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
“Really? Debating whether or not Hughes had a good curve ball last night is apparently an issue for you.”
Yes….I feel very passionately about it. I was joking.
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OK. Didn’t come across as a joke. Sorry.
“Searching for a quantum of solace.”
Good movie….not.as good as Casino Royale though
What’s so controversial? Singleton, Flash, Girardi, Hughes and I thought he had a good curve ball last night.
If you want to disagree fine.
DRob did pitch last night. Soriano hasn’t pitched in two days, I think. Hard to remember, all these games are kinda running together and with the 2 a.m. end to last night’s game that I actually watched all the way through for some unknown reason, I feel half asleep today. LOL.
Blake-
The physics reference was for JAP. The Bond portion for you since you own the Aston.
MTU September 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
JAP-
I was trying to inject a little levity into today thread.
Searching for a quantum of solace.
My humor frequently falls flat. My apology.
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I enjoy your humor, I’m just not sure what you meant in this case
Not sure which one of these to use.
Its in the eye of the beholder or opinions are like bungholes.
Who cares!!
Lets talk about the Yankees running away with the division and winning #28 under the radar.
LGY September 7th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Girardi is just a parakeet.
Who cares what he says?
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Yanks holding Sept. 11 ceremony at the moment, since they will be away on Sunday….
Is it fair to use last night’s outing as a marker of Phil’s progress/lack of progress? There was a 4-hour rain delay, and he was pitching in monsoon-like conditions.
Shouldn’t he maybe get a mulligan for this one?
And this isn’t meant to be oppositional or antagonistic. I’m genuinely posing a question.
Ceremony is streaming live on mlb.com
JAP-
It referred a few posts back before mine.
You were complaining about people with fragile egos, etc.
I offered myself up as the sacrificial lamb, so to speak in an attempt at humor.
Sorry for the confusion.
a real hero on the field there with a bunch of baseball players….
Tar-
It’s not. The arm has not responded as quickly as we all hoped.
There’s improvement but just not the full Monty yet.
Hughes strikeouts last night:
Reynolds – 31 K% – looking – 2nd inning – fastball, one curveball was fouled off
Davis – 31 K%- Swinging – 2nd inning – all fastballs, 75mph curve in dirt
Andino 20 K% – swinging – 3rd inning – 75mph curve
Weiters – 19 K% – swinging – 4th inning – one curve in dirt for a ball, out on 84mph changeup
Davis – 31 K% – swinging – 4th inning – curve in dirt, reached first
Those guys would strike out regardless of how “good” Hughes curveball is. He didn’t get one decent hitter with it.
MTU, gotcha. I probably shouldn’t even comment on the stuff. It’s tiring commenting on the tiring commentary, which is probably doubly tiring to read for others
. I just can’t stand it after awhile. Better to just change venues, I guess, when that happens.
MTU,
If you continue to fail on your attempted humor. Im going to be forced to tell you to take a hike.
Enjoy the game folks.
Jesus. reach for the stars baby.
I miss Bojo.
AJ and Hughes have been inconsistent all season and until one or the other proves otherwise we’re allowed to point that out at every turn.
Hughes really had the chance to take that spot from AJ, I genuinely believe that. Privately, I think the organization wouldn’t have minded and were possibly hoping for that to happen. He’s just been too inconsistent with ALL of his pitches.
ID,
while it may not have been strike three what about all of the times he used it to get ahead or to set up another pitch that may have led to a batted out. I think anyone who actually watched the game realized that the pitch was working
Game Post up
Best of luck to those of you entering.
Well guys. It started to pour Literally right now. Bad bad rain
ID, he got some real depth and late break on a few of those breaking balls. Others were more pedestrian, but he did throw a few good ones – which were likely the ones that gave Girardi encouragement.
GO AJ!!!!
Dat’s all folks! Enjoy the game. (Hopefully no SF or SPs show up…)
ID – Bingo. He throws that curve against the Sox or Rangers… different story
Hughes threw some good curves and some bad curves. Velocity was a concern, especially for some that hung over the plate. Conditions weren’t optimum but a couple of curves were 70ish. Scary. Others even with low velo had nice bite. But he battled in spite of velo issues, and had pretty good command of a FB that sat lower than usual at 90-91 mostly. Still would like to see CB back up to high 70′s.
yankfem, yup.