Game 142: Yankees at Orioles
YANKEES (87-54)
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Mark Teixeira 1B
Alex Rodriguez DH
Robinson Cano 2B
Nick Swisher RF
Eric Chavez 3B
Francisco Cervelli C
Brett Gardner LF
RHP Ivan Nova (15-4, 3.89)
Nova vs. Orioles
ORIOLES (56-85)
J.J. Hardy SS
Nick Markakis RF
Adam Jones CF
Vladimir Guerrero DH
Matt Wieters C
Mark Reynolds 1B
Nolan Reimold LF
Chris Davis 3B
Robert Andino 2B
RHP Alfredo Simon (4-8, 4.64)
Simon vs. Yankees
TIME/TV: 1:05 p.m., YES Network
WEATHER: Thunderstorms are in the forecast. Why wouldn’t they be?
BETTER WITH SUN: The Yankees are 38-10 in day games this season. That’s a .792 winning percentage. According to Elias, the highest single-season winning percentage in day games since 1900 is .748 by the 1906 Cubs who went 116-36.
CHASING HOFFMAN: Mariano Rivera remains four saves away from passing Trevor Hoffman’s all-time saves record, but Rivera needs just one more appearance to pass Hoffman for ninth place on baseball’s all-time games pitched list.
ON THIS DATE: On September 8, 1925, Babe Ruth hit the 300th home run of his career off Buster Ross in a 7-4 Yankees win at Fenway Park. It was the second game of a doubleheader.



winning this game makes for a great cross country trip, assuming the “in flight entertainment” makes the flight on time…oh, and the Sawx choke tonite
Counting today’s game, this is a 10-game road trip, including the swing out west, an off day and then three in Toronto….Going to be a tough stretch against some great pitching.
Have to win this one. Would love to see a 7-3 road trip but that might be unrealistic. But I can hope, can’t I?
Checking in from op@cy. Cut out of work early on a whim to come here, standing by the bullpen right by jesus. Hope to see him hit today
Go Nova. Go Yanks.
This is the last game between the Yanks and O’s this season. That’s good, because I’m not sure how much more rain the Northeast can tolerate.
randy – it must be a mechanical thing with Cervelli. He wasn’t this bad previously. And, if you recall, he went through a stretch earlier this year where he couldn’t even find Jeter and Cano on his throws. That’s clearly gotten better, but it suggests to me that it’s a mechanical flaw in what he’s doing. You’re right, though, in that if he doesn’t fix it, he will risk going the way of Mackey Sasser.
oh, jeez, they’ve gotta release jeter…and fire girardi….
…sorry, just getting into the lohud game post mood…..
Poor Orioles there are only 100 people at the game. One foul ball for everyone!!!
“Chances are Cervelli isn’t going to play iin the playoffs, at least not in the first round.”
crawdaddy-
i agree and hope cervelli never gets a inning of playoff action.
… but you got me thinking. i just took out the spare tire from my car because chances are i won’t need it for the playoffs either.
think of the gas i’ll be saving by getting rid of that extra dead weight
repost
Just finished reading The Last Boy. The book is a heartbreaker. I had such a mix of emotions while reading it. I felt a lot of resentment toward Leavy because at times I felt she was going out of her way to expose all the negatives she could find about the Mick. I didn’t see the need for it. I also found stretches of it extremely boring. Why she needed to track down minutiae about certain home runs, did they actually go such and such a distance? Calling in sabermatricians, people who lived in the area, searching years of records to find a person who supposedly found the ball in such and such a place when he didn’t actually find it there at all. Who really cares? But by the end of the book (extremely long, by the way) I saw the whole thing come full circle. And I cried – for who he was, who he was forced to be by his father, who he never became because of his own stubbornness – but mostly for who he is, one of the greatest players to ever play the game and gone much too soon.
I hour we never see nunez in the field in the playoffs
Go figure. Cy Simon is pitching for Baltimore and “binder Joe” pulled the line-up out of a hat and why can’t the Yankees beat bad teams? Other than the bad play by NYYs so far today, did I leave anything out?
GB – you left out Tex
joe from long island-
i’m guessing he’s got a sore arm or tired arm like pitchers get. catchers get them too. they throw more than anyone. he used to throw well so something’s up.
ironically, he probably needs to have some time off to rehab his arm. victor martinez went through a bad few years too after throwing well and then his arm came back at least to an acceptable level.
i wouldn’t be saying much about cervelli if he could throw.he’s a perfectly good back up if he can throw. but for two years he hasn’t- 12% throwing out runners is as bad as it gets.
jorge at his worst in his last year was 18 % and 28% for his career.
Robbie playing SS today!
For those that are wondering how Binder Joe could go against the book and pull a line-up out of a hat…he didn’t….look at Chapter L. “When you lose a game, you pull the next game’s line-up out of a hat”.
“Other than the bad play by NYYs so far today, did I leave anything out?”
you have a bad attitude.
no wonder people used to push you out of planes.
Jesus is still out here in the bullpen, I guess clueless doesn’t think he might need a ph later on
LMAO. How are things going with you, Randy?
anyone affected by the upstate evacuations, esp. Binghamton?
Mets even have to put their PR guy on the DL….
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who’s clueless, the guy with the WS rings or the guy who doesnt think a player could walk all the way in to the dugout at some point during a game?
awesome flip to swisher there…
Time for a funky crooked number here and Nova can just pound the zone and put it on cruise control.
No need for any sort of drama kicking off this road trip.
“LMAO. How are things going with you, Randy?”
gb7-
real good. i’ve got my summer’s business behind me so i have time now to post non stop on lohud now.
except for that last bit of bad news for you , how are things going with you?
That was a rally killer….
I hope they trade Cervelli for a box of noodles this winter.
I hope they trade Cervelli for a box of noodles this winter.
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They can get something more substantial than a box of noodles.
you could actually hear the beer vendors On Eutagh Street when Gardner struck out/walked
with Spaghetti Sauce??
El Capitan!
“They can get something more substantial than a box of noodles.”
not if his cervelli’s nickname is “noodle-arm”
Going pretty well, Randy. I’m busy working up a list of ad lib zingers to throw at you.
At 24, Cervelli’s still developing. He has a great deal of ML experience already for a young catcher with plenty of room to grow. At his age, he’s actually still a prospect. I think he’s worth more than fans suspect.
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Nova better get pitches done a lot lower than this, or he won’t be around long today.
Guess Guerrero still gots some pop. Unfortunately.
” I’m busy working up a list of ad lib zingers to throw at you.”
gb7-
i’ll warn the people standing near me because you never hit anything you’re aiming at.
They’re not looking very down. Lucky for him, it’s the O’s.
zing!
stop putzing around Nova.
Top of the 3rd inning: get ‘em on…get ‘em over….get ‘em in.
nova really cant find the strike zone.
randy l. September 8th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
” I’m busy working up a list of ad lib zingers to throw at you.”
gb7-
i’ll warn the people standing near me because you never hit anything you’re aiming at.
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Are you kidding/ I can hit every car in the parking lot with a golf ball…every time.
just saw the hr on mlb gameday, saying that pitch was up in the zone was an understatment
Mark actually looked pretty quick on that stolen base. Be nice to get that Vlady HR back.
that’s gotta tick off weiters.smart play by teixiera
and tick off buck too .
Chavey Baby
Here comes Noodles again.
well I got to see the first 2 innings on my lunch break, but now I am relying on you guys and game day…neither one is giving me enough info!
“Take a look at the following graphs illustrating how Hughes has fared over the years in the following pitcher-advantageous situations. The data in these charts was culled from Baseball-Reference (click on charts to enlarge):
This is pretty ugly. His sOPS+ after 0-2 counts currently sits at a hideous 241, which means batters are performing 141% better than league average in these situations against Phil. I don’t even know what to say about that.
If you remove the injury-shortened 2008, his AVG, OBP and SLG against, along with tOPS+ and sOPS+ have basically gone up every year after reaching an 0-2 count on hitters. Granted, these charts do come with a significant caveat: obviously the sample sizes are small, and even smaller for 2011 since he’s faced fewer hitters, and so take these findings with a grain of salt. His 2011 numbers in particular actually fell significantly after his Orioles start on Tuesday night, so there’s still room for improvement. That being said, the data isn’t exactly encouraging.”
Interesting article on Hughes struggles putting away hitters. Obviously to view the charts and stuff you have to click on the link
http://www.yankeeanalysts.com/.....phil-34130
well I got to see the first 2 innings on my lunch break, but now I am relying on you guys and game day…neither one is giving me enough info!
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The yankees are winning.
Mr. all or mostly nothing Cervelli.
YAY!! Thanks JF
How was that a ball??
andino chops out to chavez 1 out
Anyone else think this ump’s strike zone is a bit off?
Hardy whiffs, Markakis walks.
Scouting report from Oppenheimer via Curry for the YES-less.
Player who has stood out this year- Mason Williams- 5 tool player who really gets it
Other notables- Dante Jr.- Know he will hit for power/ says Bichette has Derek Jeter make-up in the clubhouse
re: Betances/Banuelos- seen very good things from them but haven’t seen the consistency they want yet.
strikout swinging on a nice curve 2 out
Out here in the bullpen, proctor and wade are hosting a joe torre survivors group, I think sturtze might be stopping by too
Not trying to be rude, but we didn’t need a fancy chart to tell us that Hughes struggles putting hitters away.
4 pitch walk to markakis, nova didnt seem interested in throwing a strike.
Has anyone ever thought “man, this umpires trike zone is great!”?
Adam Jones flies out.
Update for those without picture, Granderson was doing a really weird thing with his hand and eye, I think aimed at swisher.
Like from Kids in the Hall where they are squishing people with their fingers.
ID – I thought that about Lelsie Nielsen
You do, however… need a fancy chart to actually *prove* that he struggles putting hitters away. You can just watch and guess… if you like being wildly inaccurate about things.
gardner chops out to reynolds who makes a nice play right over the line one out
Gardner’s at bat was faster than Gardner.
simon’s 3-1 pitch sailes behind jeter for a walk. one on one out
why run on wieters with granderson up?
ugh… that stunk… bigger lead next time might be helpful.
granderson jeter thrown out stealing. pitch was up and outside, weiters with a quick throw to get him. wasnt that close. two out
why run on simon when he is wild as hell?
granderson walks one on two out.
That was a really stupid time for Jeter to run considering the pitcher can’t find the plate. Now you just helped him out big time.
and Grandy walks too… nice to give him an out. Cause he can’t find the zone.
Not the smartest steal attempt by Jetes.
How does clueless play hit and run when this guy is so wild?
Tex seems locked in today… or he’s seeing Simon’s ball really well.
coulda been another run… nice thinking Jeter.
tex singles to right center, granderson has to stop at 2b, two on two out.
It would stink to let Simon off the hook
what was dumb about the attempt other than that he was caught?
arod chops a one hopper to third, mail order high hop and an easy throw to get him and end the inning
ugh… waste.
the pitcher can’t find the zone. Let the batter take the pitches and let the pitcher get out of those situations. Don’t give him an easy out. Why steal when the pitcher can’t throw a strike?
Anyone we can petition to allow Ys Guy replace Kay on the broadcast?
thanks for the play-by-play Ys
apparntly jeter has some kind of edge…oh, sorry forgot to stop when the commercials started…
what was dumb about the attempt other than that he was caught?
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Wieters is one of the best in the game at throwing out runners, Simon couldn’t find the plate, and Granderson is a HR hitter.
I think that covers it.
vladdy drills another high one this time off the rf fence for a double
“why run on simon when he is wild as hell?”
i think that was jeter being upset with simon almost hitting him in the head.
it was almost predictable he’d try to steal.
vlad almost auto piloted himself out of a double but cranked it up and slid in just before swishs throw arrived
How the heck did Guerrero make it to second without loosing a leg?
Be nice for the team to play in front of some people again tomorrow, and have some kind’ve atmosphere plus some good weather.
chopper to second easy play for cano, vlady to third 2 out
sorry 1 out
Nova has thrown some awful pitches to Vlad today. If Swisher had a better arm Vlad would definitely be out at 2nd base or he would of stayed at 1st base.
reynolds with a slow roller to cano, just out of nova’s reach, vlad scored two out 4-2 yankees
everytime we thin we got the gum off of our shoe, Vladdie puts it right back on
nova has thrown awful pitches to everyone, its just that vlad’s been smacking the high strikes the others are laying off.
Can’t see how Jeter attempting to steal was any different than teixeira stealing 2nd other than one made it and the other didn’t. If Jeter had been safe, he would have been a smart veteran base runner.
reimold walks one on two out.
Nova is wild today
not high strikes, just high pitches vlads been smaking, sorry…
davis lines one over cano, reimold to third ahead of swisher’s throw. first and third two out.
It looks like it’s going to a short day for Nova
Can’t see how Jeter attempting to steal was any different than teixeira stealing 2nd other than one made it and the other didn’t.
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They weren’t different, neither should have attempted to steal.
nova throws a 55 footer, cervelli blocks it nicely but davis advances to second
Nova has no command whatsoever today
Nova having problems keeping the ball down today. Could be not long for this game. Wonder if Kontos will make an appearance.
some of those LOB would have come in handy against Buck’s fruit flies
And yet, nobody said a word about Teixeira’s “dumb steal”, but the usual couldn’t wait to get Jeter.
Nova already at 73 pitches into the 3rd. So this is our solid #2 guy now?
andino strikes out on an outside fastball to end the inning.
A K to end the inning…
But less than impressive pitching today from Nova
Can’t say Nova doesn’t battle and keep his team in it.
Love it.
Looking past the season and I have to admit… both the Yankees and Red Sox look pretty deficient in the rotation area compared to the other potential teams (Phillies, Rangers, Angels, Tigers…?)…
jo jo reyes replaces simon on the bump
cano whiffs on a high fastball one out
Cano’s hit a bit of a down-turn lately with a lot of strikeouts.
Tex is slow and more susceptible to the DP – whereas Jeter still has some speed. Grandy was already up 3-1 I think in the count – so why take the risk? Grandy didn’t swing so it wasn’t a hit-n-run…
And yet, nobody said a word about Teixeira’s “dumb steal”, but the usual couldn’t wait to get Jeter.
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Wasn’t paying close enough attention to even notice Tex to mention it at the time. I’d be very wary about sending anyone other than Granderson or Gardner against Wieters. he is throwing out 38% of runners and the orioles give up one of the fewest amounts of steals in the majors. They didnt pay any attention to Tex, so I understand why he might have thought he could make an attempt to catch Wieters off guard, but they attempted pickoffs to Jeter. He didnt have any element of surprise. Both were bad attempts. And hand waving it away as some kind of ‘only because he failed’ well DUH. Any steal attempt that succeeds won’t draw as much ire as a steal attempt that fails. You were on gardner’s back all year because of his steals, so please spare us that tripe.
swisher whiffs on a slider two out
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blargh… come on people…
GB7 – You want people to complain about things that went right now?
did you just suggest that nobody should steal on 3-1?
chavez flies to center to end the inning
That was 73 pitches into the fourth dummy
Tigers have Verlander. Fister has been a nice pick up. Porcello and Scherzer have been up and down.
Granderson had a 2-1 count, if it was 3-1 he wouldnt have been called out because grandy would have walked.
hardy with a sky high pop to tex. one out
markakis lines one that gardner thought about diving for then pulled up. runner on 1st one out.
righte-o. No I did not suggest that. But when it’s evident Simon can’t throw a strike to save his life, why take that chance?
Nova is battling so far but he doesn’t have the command today to expect him tp put up zero’s much longer. It’s time to get the bullpen up.
jones nubs one, cervelli throws it into RF runners advance to 2nd and 3rd one out.
uh -oh … Nova unravelling?
Terrible throw by Cervelli…
Kind of lousy game today
nope – that would be Cervelli unravelling. What a lump head.
play is scored an error, cervellis throw went between the runner and tex one of those ones that tex could have broken his arm on but fortunately he short armed it and wasnt hit.
vladdy pops up to tex in front of the 1b dugout, no advance, 2nd and 3rd two out.
Cervelli is a terrible defensive catcher
There is no way that Montero is worse than Cervelli behind the plate. If he was he wouldn’t be catching in the minors.
noodle-arm
weiters chops one to cano to end the inning. 2 left on base.
Score about three and let Nova give ‘em 6 innings.
Nova battling and having a pretty good game without his best stuff, I would say that does resemble a number 2, to ask the dolts here who are whining about nova
I really wonder if the Yankees view Montero as the future catcher of this organization? Martin will obviously be the #1 next year. Montero is the sure thing backup?
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Score about three and let Nova give ‘em 6 innings.
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that would be awesome.
cervelli lifts a high fly to left on the 8th pitch for the first out.
it’s a bad sign when the catcher has more movement on his throws than the pitchers have on their pitches.
gardner grounds out to short two out
jeter chops to third to end the inning.
well, so much for that.
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Nova will be back out for the 6th.
Girardi has to pick a game against the Mariners and sit everyone like he did yesterday. They are probably getting worn down like Long said.
fly out to swisher one out
The Orioles are just abusing Swisher’s arm in RF today
reimold doubles into the gap in RC. runner in 2nd, one out.
girardi comes out and signals for logan to come in and face c davis.
Jesus caught logan in the pen
I have to imagine you all saw this by now but…
According to Joel Sherman of the New York Post, Dellin Betances will “definitely” join the Yankees this weekend.
While Betances isn’t a lock to make an appearance down the stretch, the Yankees want him exposed to life as a big leaguer.
Betances, 23, posted a 3.70 ERA and 142/70 K/BB ratio in 126 1/3 innings this season between Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Baseball America ranked him as the 26th best prospect on their midseason list.
Sep 8 – 2:47 PM Source: Joel Sherman on Twitter
Sori and ayala also throwing
Here comes the Logan experiment….
Betances isn’t on the 40. Someone has to be DFA’d… ideas? My guess – Laffey.
Swisher is flexing his arm/hand after every throw, he’s obviously having a problem out there.
Why is he still in this game?
Hong-chi Kuo in for the Dodgers, Chien-ming Wang still in for the Nats.
First time two pitchers from Taiwan have opposed each other in an MLB game?
Logan – you stinkhead…
Well that worked…Logan is such garbage
I don’t even know why Girardi even bothers with him anymore
davis rocks one off the rf wall for a double, run scores, 1 out, 4-3 yankees. girardi comes out and pulls him.
ugh, Logan.
Betances *is* on 40 man.
Maybe they’ll DFA logan… but I doubt it.
Pi$$ing away two games in a row against these kids? Maybe Buck will kiss his wife Hello tonite.
Can Logan ever get out a lefty? GM malpractice not getting a real loogy
Boone Logan = terrible
im figuring swisher’s problem is something that they are aware of and nothing can be done about till after the season, either by rest or surgery.
whoops – I was thinking Banuelos.
its been all downhill for logan since he whiffed gozalez.
Sherman says Banuelos won’t be called up.
I definitely wouldn’t put Logan on the post season roster over any of the righties. I don’t know how you could possibly trust him in a big spot. One good year doesn’t make you a good reliever.
“The Orioles are just abusing Swisher’s arm in RF today”
that’s surprising because it would be so hard to pick up that swisher’s arm is bothering him today.
logan is so inconsistent than he can struck every batter he faced one day and can not get an out the next day. Unfortunately, all their veteran options were already released.
That is some go D by Luis
ayala gets a nibber hit right back to him by andino and makes a textbook play running right at the runner and forcing davis back to 2nd where cano applies the tag.
Cervelli’s biggest problem with throws to second base is the way he grabs the ball. He basically throws a 2-seamer that tails and dives away from the bag. If he grabbed the laces straight up, he wouldn’t have half the problems or balls throw to the outfield.
runner on 1st 2 out.
Keep Hardy in the park here Ayala
That was the best (and maybe only) defensive play by a pitcher not names Mo this entire season
popup to cano ends the inning.
That is a great job of relief by Luis and nice of Nova to pat Logan on the shoulder in the dugout.
In that particular situation I would’ve preferred Girardi to manage backwards and use Soriano in the high pressure situation and then come back with Ayala to start the 7th. However, it all worked though.
Cash tried with feliciano and marte. How can you whine about the gm?
Someone should start an Ayala fan club. He’s a good pitcher and player.
Insurance Runs Please!
Laffey still warming
I forget which relievers are available out of So, Ro, Mo today?
Montero looks a little ackward trying to frame pitches because he is soooo big
grenderson hbp (barely grazed his wrist on 3-2)
Can they please just blowout this loser team already? They used to be so good at it early in the season, now every game with them is a nailbiter
tex with a viscous liner right to the LF. one out one on.
showalter doing his best larussa signals for accardo.
Dominant lefty relievers are hard to find. The Red Sox don’t even have a Boone Logan in their pen. The only real good ones I can think of are young guys like Venters, Adams, and Madson who would have all cost a fortune to pry away.
Buck manages against the Yanks like it’s the 7th game of the world series
Ys Guy – Would you say you’ve borrowed more from the style of Dewayne Staats, Spencer Ross or Bill White?
captain, thats what they pay him to do.
Offense leaving no margin for error
Alex’ timing is really off…
Hope he is good to go in October
man… arod …
i always loved bill white. messer was a mess and phil was kind of a joke
Hanks handicapped 3rd baseman with the gidp
arod bounces into a 6-4-3, so tony, i mean buck made the right call…
this has been a pretty frustrating game so far. Getting dominated by a couple of pinatas with 6 eras like Reyes and Accardo for four innings, giving away outs on the bases with simon pitching, and allowing the stinking Orioles to hang around….
Wade now warming as joe furiously leafs through his binder
AROD has declined into a good player from one of the best. He is not one I want to see up in critical situations anymore. I hope it is temporary. We shall see.
The lineup has fallen asleep today as the game as gone on. This looks like an O’s win unless the Yankees lineup wakes up.
Too many stranded runners..usually comes back to bite you in the arse…hope not..
holy hell binder joe. laffey??? REALLY???
Logans been awful since April. This isn’t a shock.
Betances can travel with the team and not be on the 40 if they don’t intend for him to see action.
guys who hit into alot of dp’s…manny, donnie, edgar, eddie murray…
when you hit in the middle of a lineup and you hit the ball hard, you are going to hit into alot of dp’s. get over it.
ok so everybody agrees that logan isnt cutting it, we have another lefty reliever on the staff. how are we going to know if he can get a lefty out if he never pitches?
Laffey = worthless
Not getting a lefty is already costing is now. Let alone tge post season. The L boys r scrubs
Ys Guy September 8th, 2011 at 3:33 pm
guys who hit into alot of dp’s…manny, donnie, edgar, eddie murray…
when you hit in the middle of a lineup and you hit the ball hard, you are going to hit into alot of dp’s. get over it.
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so true, and didnt chad post an article that showed since 2004 arod has been one of the top clutch hitters?
Betances is on the 40… Banuelos is not.
No one else stirring in the pen, looks like wade for better or worse this inning
Girardi is treating this game like play off roster try outs instead of trying to win a game. Just like how he treated September last year. Laffey was released by the Indians how good can he be.
laffey walks markakis on a curve runner at 1st. girardi comes with the hook
raul valdes is next.
looks like clueless might be running the white flag out with no back up plan for wade
Ace September 8th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
Logans been awful since April. This isn’t a shock.
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except for that short stretch of games between Mayy 11th and September 5th, he hasn’t been good.
Oof … Girardi and his reliever roulette!
Wade will get them out here without that leadoff walk scoring.
Nickalicious!
Great throw and way to hold on Cervy.
what a relay and block/tag
unbelievable
that’s cervelli ladies and gents
he has no clue where he is right now
Frankie Baseball! Cano!
OH MY GOD.
Unbelievable play!
Cervy is a tough kid, that’s for sure.
Cano’s arm is just ridiculous.
Great play!!!
Hope Cervy’s OK. Looks like Montero may have to catch soon after all.
Markakis never did hit the plate I don’t think. Cervelli holds on and makes the point mute
WHEW!
Hope Cervelli is ok, he’s had concussions before.
A noodle arm didn’t matter on that play.
jones rips one to rf, swisher with one of those awkward looking excellent catches going back, no advance, runner at 1st 1 out.
Harkey just told jesus to be ready in case he needs to come out, I heard him
How about those throws, the first from the worst centerfielder in the league and Cano!
Sterling going on and on about Cervelli and the play. Saved a run.
Wade has nothing today
Hope there is no concussion; he got rocked! He’s always been a tough kid.
Great throw by Cano and block by Cervelli. Wade is getting tattooed…
Yanks have some tough ass catchers but no one wants to see Montero in that situation.
vlad rips one between the cf and rf, play at the plate huge collision HES OUT!
I am really surprised that Frankie remains in the game. He got rocked.
come on now wade make this last out routine please
m, it was a great play on both Cano’s and Cervy’s parts.
I’d rather the Yankees players not make injury-prone plays in a meaningless game against the orioles. I hope Cervelli’s concussion doesnt flare up.
Fist pumps all around!
Cisco earned that fist pump.
Props to Grandy as well.
Jesus watch update; he’s heading out to the dugout with his gear on
excellent relay by cano,didnt look like they had a play at that point. cervelli really got tossed and held on while taking a shoulder to the neck, great play all around.
I think I mentioned that Showalter was just beside himself gushing on Lupica’s show about Cano, how catchers never have to worry about a short hop.
Wade K, Cervelli I guess is feeling alright with the fist pump. LOL.
That’s Cervelli
nice play cervelli
i’ll even give him that one.
good job.
way to stick his head right in there.
Bernie and Damon may not have even reached Cano on that relay…loved those guys ability to actually go get the ball, but we really missed that silly “throwing tool” from our CF for years
now score runs to put them away
That was granderson, not Swisher. Granderson has a pretty decent arm…not great but, it’s accurate and quick to unload it.
cervy’s mask just went flying on that play.
Awesome play
Scratch that…Wade came up big there…That was a great relay, Cano caught the ball and fired, Grandy got on it fast, Cervelli tough as nails…awesome all around..
strikeout to end the inning yanks still lead 4-3, cervelli fist pumping his way off the field!
Cano is a baseball player with a basketball court awareness.
Cano is lot an infield Clemente…so smooth
I didn’t like the way Cervy looked going down stairs into clubhouse. They should pull him for his own sake.
Now Proctor for the 8th inning and let Soriano close it out!
like
GB, well said.
Sori throwing now, look s like the eighth is his
replay shows cano turning and making a perfect strike to the plate without even looking. he had no right throwing out that runner, really amazing.
The ats have gone asleep…hopefully the pen holds up
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Cano is a baseball player with a basketball court awareness.
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Showalter quoted Randolph as having dubbed Cano “Magic Johnson” after that fade away throw on the SS side to throw a runner out against them.
cano pops out to LF one out
“I hope Cervelli’s concussion doesnt flare up.”
nothing ever happens to catchers.
no need to have montero catch at all ahead of time.
martin will catch all the payoff innings so it doesn’t matter if cervelli can’t catch.
only having one catcher will allow the yankees to carry an extra pitcher in the post season
I’ve been watching baseball for a long, long time, and I don’t think I’ve ever seen a better, purer play than that relay.
that was fast…
yankeefeminista September 8th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
GB, well said.
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He seems to always know where he is, where all the players are and all of the bases are in relation to where he’s standing. That’s learned, but, it’s also a gift. Jeter has that gift, too.
chavez’s tip held by weiters ends the inning.
Here comes sori get your tums ready
Joe will probably try what he did with Robertson the other day with Soriano – use him the 8th and try and squeeze a 9th out of him too.
Again – I’d rather listen to that throat cancer guy in the commercial announce this game rather than Kay
UnKnown September 8th, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Markakis never did hit the plate I don’t think. Cervelli holds on and makes the point mute
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MOOT point. Moot. Sorry, that’s my pet peeve.
If the Yanks don’t score another run or 2 they aren’t winning this game. They have hung on by a hair for 3 innings now and you just get the feeling that they will break through eventually. The Yankees lineup looks exhausted now.
YF,
Sterling said that well be seeing lots of replays of the play.
video is not cooperating, so I’ll have to catch it later. I do hear a lot of cheering for the Yankees, that’s one thing you can’t pick up on video.
Cano relays the ball. Steer than any 2b in history……I feel confident saying that because I can’t imagine anyone doing it better.
dickerson in RF for swisher, soriano comes in to pitch.
tom, and that’s the second otherworldly, clean relay in a matter of like a few weeks.
“I didn’t like the way Cervy looked going down stairs into clubhouse. They should pull him for his own sake.”
i agree. his eyes looked funny right after he was hit. i wouldn’t be surprised if he was seeing the pretty white sparklers when you get your bell rung.
Better.
GB, yes, I too thought of Jeter in the same context. (basketball/court awareness analogy). Bill Bradley: a sense of where you are…
Pruf, yes, I recall you mentioning Magic re: Buck interview. Apt.
Gardner.
funny- on gameday, camden yards (in the animated background), the sec and third decks are half empty. pretty accurate stuff.
Another Gardner error. about three in the last week
Does Gardner have soap on his fingers?
Rivera in the pen with the jacket off
reynolds to LF gardner bobbles it and reynolds steams into 2nd base. single and an error, runner at 2nd 0 out.
A Soriano pitch gets hammered…Yeah that’s really surprising.
I think the errors are pilling up because these guys are exhaused. Girardi really has to watch these guys and give some of them off during the Angels series.
This game has been an absolute struggle the whole way.
m, definitely one for the highlights.
Why would they be exhausted? Because they all had yesterday off? Make sense please.
I think the errors are pilling up because these guys are exhaused. Girardi really has to watch these guys and give some of them off during the Angels series.
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Not to mention Gardner should not have got an error on that play in the rain. Error rules for outfielders are stupid.
That was a strike.
JAP,
Maybe I missed the last one, but this one, Grandy getting to it in the first place, excellent throw to Cano, and the relay. “Otherworldly is the right word.
frozen rope are you at the game
LMAO. Wow!! Great play!
Atta boy Grandy-Cervy.
Lightning strikes twice in the same place
davis bloops one into center, reynolds out by a mile trying to score, davis to 2nd. 1 out.
They basically have to win this game to justify all this self sacrifice.
Rivera is stretching
Cervelli is going to be soooo sore tomorrow.
LOL. Grandy to Cervy. Nice!
cervelli helping save this game today…
Let’s go Sori! Jeez
sorry 2 out (phone caused a ww!)
And its all for not. Unreal.
Geez what is with Soriano, he gets no one out
Wow Soriano. come on man
ugh
Ugh. Double Ugh on Gardner.
And Soriano was begging to blow the lead…
Another nice one from the worst center fielder in the league.
Send Soriano to Afghanistan!
You knew the tied game was coming. It has been coming for 3 innings now.
hot shot gets through arod, runner scores from 2b tie game.
Sooner or later, saw it coming….O’s should be up by 2 runs also
I’m right behind the pen
Soriano is throwing meatballs.
Soriano the stiff
Cervelli has no arm.
That was Cervelli’s inning.
Pitch–Right down the middle.
All right, Cervy. Out at 3rd!
Nice running andino. We’ll take that.
Come on offense time to win this one here.
and this is why baltimore is in last..
what could andido be thinking there?
Too bad they shifted on Andino, if Brett was playing str8 up they’d probably have got another out at home.
Time to get some runs. Hope Andrew Miller gets slapped around tonight.
Had the Orioles been less stupid then Soriana would have been crushed
Inevitable….up 4-1 and the offense pulls a Rip Van Winkle
If we get shut out for 6 innings by the Orioles bullpen, we deserve to lose.
Cervelli with the hat trick.
Soriano.
Guess it was too much to ask you to get 3 outs with out giving up a run.
And it could have been worse if not for Granderson and Cervelli.
Soriano hasn’t looked sharp since before the Boston series.
The defense has been saving him.
Well if they want to not go to LA with 2 L’s in a row they better figure out how to hit the ball again. What a crummy pitch he made, belt high it was like Tee ball
orioles should be winning by 5.
This is an offense that’s in huge trouble vs a good staff in October.
Have a day Cervy!
m, I’d cut Gardner some slack on that one. A tough throw to make to plate.
Inevitable….up 4-1 and the offense pulls a Rip Van Winkle
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Most teams barely average 4 runs per game, whats the point of complaining about it? If a team averages ~4 runs a game, what difference does it make when they score them?
Only fitting that Cervelli leads off
The game plan is obviously to run on the Yankees outfielders.
Girardi has to get Cervelli out of this game. After the 2nd block you could see him moving his eyes around like his eyes/head hurts or something isn’t right.
If the Orioles played as hard as they do against the rest of the league as they do vs us, they’d be in first place.
OK, keep it going, Cervy. You are on a roll.
And gardner showing why he’s a 4th OF’er..
When he’s on he’s great when he’s not its long streches of him playing with his head up his a$$. Starters do not go on long streches of checking out both on defense and offense..
with his speed he should never go more than 20 at bats without a hit…he can’t bunt which negates his speed and causes him to get into a funk offesively – 4th OF’er no matter what he does when he’s “on”…
This is an offense that’s in huge trouble vs a good staff in October.
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Because they haven’t hit much in the last few innings vs a terrible staff??
The Yankees better not even think of playing Cervelli in the postseason or I will refuse to watch!
so as it turns out, it might not have been the best of days to try out the rookie behind the plate, and the backup is no gold glover but can make plays when called on .
Thanks Hal and Hank. Soriano lays another smelly turd.
Proctor up now
Who didn’t see this coming after they left all those runners on early?
Have to add to the 4-1 lead, not e content with an early 4-1 lead…
Need to.win this game with the pitching they are about to face the next 4 games.
Soriano another example of a good pitcher elsewhere melting in the heat of NY
Have to add to the 4-1 lead, not e content with an early 4-1 lead…
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If they always added on to leads like that they’d score 1000+ runs every year, its just not possible. Adjust your expectations.
It’s all or nothing. It’s hr or bust.
cervelli takes a called strike at the knees one out.
It’s all or nothing. It’s hr or bust.
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Scored all their runs on singles.
6 hits against these turds is not very good
Frozen Rope September 8th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
I’m right behind the pen
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Thanks, keep ‘em comin’.
“This is an offense that’s in huge trouble vs a good staff in October.”
Based on what?
LGY – good thing you’re around for sanity checks.
My post about Cervelli was a joke. The kid plays hard – and gets good things done. It’s easy for people to forget the bombs he has hit or the plays a home. (not you mel, I was referring to earlier posts.)
LGY, I posted the Prediction Chart last night. Don’t know if you saw it. If not I will post it later when I know you’re around.
Gotta race.
blake, we hit good pitching though.
buck with another pitching change.
i have to go now, someone else keep those imprisoned in cubicles up to date please.
this is a win!
4 runs a game for the Yankees (141 games played) would be 565 runs. That would put them in 13th place out of 14 teams in the A.L. And probably in 4th place in the division.
And this is against the Orioles, no less, who have thrown a bunch of guys with eras north of 5 and a half against us today.
That’s the point.
Sox usually hit gregg but against us he’s a world beater suddenly
I know this is not a “must win” game but they really need to win this one. As blake has said, it’s going to be tough out in Anaheim against that pitching and with the Halos fighting for their playoff lives….
yanks didn’t score after the fourth inning yesterday and now have been shut down since the third this game. Don’t know if its the weather, the crazy schedule, them cooling down, or just a combination of everything.
Andruw Jones pinch hitting for Gardner…if THAT doesn’t tell you he’s no better than a 4th OF’er I don’t know what does…and this with Blockhead Girardi knowing full well that buck will bring in a righthander once jones come in…
“Cervelli has no arm.”
tomingeorgia -
haha third base is a little closer to home than second base.
but gb7 is right. great inning by cervelli.
on a serious note if they can get cervelli’s throwing issues worked, he’d be a good back up.
Have to hope the Rays show up against the Sox or this division lead could dissipate again by the time we are out of Seattle
Sox also have 7 of their last 10 against these Os… no doubt they will pound their pitching, unlike us.
YF,
Listening to Sterling on that play. They were wondering why Gardner threw home instead of to 2nd. Second guessing the throw. Was it close enough where he had a play? Sterling and Suzyn are adamant that he had no chance.
Terrible to lose 2 in a row vs this AAA bunch before going out West
“Adjust your expectations.”
Aha!
“Based on what?”
Based on microscopic arm-chair managing and a seeming inability to look at the big picture, something that is a necessity in baseball.
By the way, Ace is not ace – meaning that ace (or ace1) has always been an optimistic poster. This Ace is not.
DocTodd – Did the game end while I wasn’t looking?
Just awesome.
Yanks are 13-4 against the O’s, so those of you who say we don’t pound them must be watching some other games. Of course, you’d probably all like them to go 18-0 against them.
Everyone step off the ledge.
Soriano looks like he needs 4-5 days off, he has been getting hammered recently. The Yanks have played so many close games so it’s not surprising if he, Rob and Mo are tired. Girardi has to pull back on them a little bit more.
I prefer to see kontos rather than proctor.
4 runs a game for the Yankees (141 games played) would be 565 runs. That would put them in 13th place out of 14 teams in the A.L. And probably in 4th place in the division.
And this is against the Orioles, no less, who have thrown a bunch of guys with eras north of 5 and a half against us today.
That’s the point.
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Thats not the point. The orioles stink, but you can’t get them every game. If the Yankees score 4 runs early, it’d be nice if they built on it but its impossible to do that every time and its pointless to complain about. They average 5.5 runs per game which is crazy good, everyone should be happy. It doesnt matter if they score all of their runs in 1 inning, or 1 per inning for a few, or early or late.
Didn’t I watch this game yesterday???
We’ve had one baserunner since the 4th, and that was a hit by pitch, who was erased on ARod’s double play.
Captain Clutch – He’s been leaving that 2 seam fastball right out over the middle of the plate all season… like he thinks he throws 100mph and then it comes out 92.
YF,
Listening to Sterling on that play. They were wondering why Gardner threw home instead of to 2nd. Second guessing the throw. Was it close enough where he had a play? Sterling and Suzyn are adamant that he had no chance.
He knew Andino was going to try and steal 3rd
yanks will play just fine on their road trip. just hate to sit here and hope the jays beat the sox. We need to be controlling our own destiny and not hoping for other teams to bail us out of games like this. 2.5 game lead is not a big lead in any other division but in the AL east thats a pretty nice leads that we don’t need to let slip before we go out west.
I hope Hal and Levine chokes on Sori’s contract.
Wow, talk about an offense going to sleep. I’ve never seen anything like this. It’s like after they were up by one or two runs they just assumed they would win. No need to try to tack anything on. Just brutal, brutal ABs.
No, Jerkface, it’s my point and I know the point I was trying to make. What’s pointless is you lecturing everyone on the board whether we asked for your stupid opinion or not.
Just living up to your name I guess.
Here comes proctors corpse…. Can’t be feeling good about this
“Yanks are 13-4 against the O’s, so those of you who say we don’t pound them must be watching some other games. Of course, you’d probably all like them to go 18-0 against them.”
4-4 in the last 8 against them, if they lose today.
m, you mean on Andino play or Reynolds? On Andino, I think Gardner thought he had a play at the plate.
PROCTOR? Are you kidding me? This is not good.
Dill Pickler – Your point is not well thought out. Don’t share opinions on the interwebs unless you want them picked apart. One game in September does not belie the entire offenses production.
Just living up to your name I guess.
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Cry on about the best offense in baseball.
one baserunner on a hbp since the 4th is a tough way to try an win a game
Proctor is in… guess they don’t care about this game.
the masn announcers have no clue.
they just went on about how great proctor has been for us.
he does know this isnt 2006 right?
Here comes the walk off with Proctor, but the Yanks have no other choice. He can’t blow out Robertson and Mo.
i simply do not get why girardi plays cervelli instead of montero.
i do not get it
“yanks didn’t score after the fourth inning yesterday and now have been shut down since the third this game. Don’t know if its the weather, the crazy schedule, them cooling down, or just a combination of everything.”
They’re exhausted. They did an interview with the hitting coach and he said he can’t imagine how they’re still playing. He said he’s tired and he hasn’t had to do anything but coach. Don’t forget, even though Baltimore isn’t that far from NY, the hurricane weekend was in Baltimore and the Orioles got to sleep in their own beds for the series. Doubleheaders and everything else, they’re worn out. And they are without days off. I say cut them a break and let it work itself out.
By the way Tabbert, I’m sure you noticed that the Sux lost last night. Do you think MLB standings care about that, since it was that .5 of a game you were very concerned about.
CHILL EVERYBODY. Yankees are in the postseason. They are playing for 1st place. They have no days off. They’ve earned the right to feel tired. This too shall pass. The trip out west is a long one but at least for the period of time they’re travelling, they can’t do anything but chill out.
This game isn’t over. A win will be great but a loss isn’t the end of the world.
Just my ever-optimistic opinion.
4-4 in the last 8 against them, if they lose today
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Law of averages catching up. Nothing more.
They couldn’t find anyone better than Scott Proctor’s ghost to put in the bullpen?
These close games are killing them. They have to use their lesser relievers in close games because they are playing them every day.
proctor in this situation makes me uneasy….hopefully he will prove me wrong….he actually didn’t pitch badly the other day, although he gave up a run….
jerkface-
I disagree on the notion that runs are runs and if they get them all early then it doesn’t matter how they get them. Great teams are great because they have the ability to hurt you early, and tack on in the middle innings and into the late innings. Scoring 5 runs early then not scoring the rest of the game shows me that the orioles have either figured out our hitters, we have mailed in ab’s or we are not getting better with each ab during the game. Obviously we are a great team and we do tend to tack on more often then not.
I smell a walk off…
there have been a lot of close games and our main relievers have worked a lot.
girardi is not joe torre.
he isnt going to ruin our bullpen arms for the sake of one win, when we are 2.5 games in first (or ever).
“DocTodd – Did the game end while I wasn’t looking?”
The reason they average 5.5 runs a game is because they score 17 one game and then 2 the next. 22 one game and then struggle for the next four games to score runs.
They have been completely shut down by horrible Orioles relievers today for the past 5 innings. Completely dominated. And if they lose this game, that will be the reason why.
This offense is extremely inconsistent. Anyone who doesn’t realize that has blinders on.
Here comes the stolen base
Great teams are great because they have the ability to hurt you early, and tack on in the middle innings and into the late innings
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Ok and none of those great teams prolly scored any more than the Yankees score this year (not often you get near 6 runs per game!), so it doesn’t really matter when the runs are scored. The Yankees will win a bazillion games and go to the playoffs. They are a great team. Based on their postseason run they could be a historic team, or merely very good.
The MASN announcers are fill ins for throne and palmer. I wouldn’t be surprised at what they have to say.
Dill Picklers – Every offense in baseball is extremely inconsistent. Anyone who doesn’t realize that has blinders on.
steal and single, or straight up double?
It’s ac1 I meant, not ace1!!!!
You go, ac1!
Why would they be exhausted? Because they all had yesterday off? Make sense please.
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I should make sense? Granderson, Cano and Tex played 6 innings yesterday. Arod and Swisher played the whole game. The only player who had yesterday off was Jeter.
Great teams are great because they have the ability to hurt you early, and tack on in the middle innings and into the late innings.
This is a simple statement to make with little or no way of proving it’s validity.
Irreverent — my thought that the Yanks offense has fallen asleep since the 4th inning is not well thought out? It doesn’t have to be well thought out — it’s blatant FACT.
They have been completely shut down by horrible Orioles relievers today for the past 5 innings. Completely dominated. And if they lose this game, that will be the reason why.
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Lineouts, LIDP, hard grounders for outs, good defense. Not dominated. They got baseballed by a baseball team.
randy,
It’s basically a comment on all the doomsayers here. I agree, Cervelli has an arm problem, but to complain about him today is pretty stupid, in my opinion.
:Law of averages catching up. Nothing more.”
yep
Trish-
I’m not worried about anything when it comes to this team. I know that we have a team that could easily win the world series and that is all any fan could ever ask for. I think the hectic schedule, the weather, the road trip, all of it is starting to take its tole on the team and it has gotten them a bit out of sync. Fact is, were in the playoffs and when we get there our lineup is going to do some very special thing and i believe our bullpen will be lights out. Losing to the orioles just frustrates me so much.
“The reason they average 5.5 runs a game is because they score 17 one game and then 2 the next. 22 one game and then struggle for the next four games to score runs.”
Completely incorrect and not based in fact.
Dill Pickler – No good team has ever gone 5 innings without scoring a run? Give me a break.
Proctor’s stuff isn’t even close to what it used to be. But at this point it doesn’t matter, it will be over in seconds.
“Every offense in baseball is extremely inconsistent. Anyone who doesn’t realize that has blinders on.”
No, Irreverent, championship teams usually are not this inconsistent. Do they always perform well? No, of course not. Not over 162 games. But they are usually not as inconsistent as this team has been offensively over the past couple of seasons.
“The reason they average 5.5 runs a game is because they score 17 one game and then 2 the next. 22 one game and then struggle for the next four games to score runs. ”
Bingo. And don’t look now but Grandy is under .270 again and Cano looks awful. A-Rod looks lost too. Chavez has done nothing since coming off the DL.
Their best hitter is Jesus and he doesn’t even play everyday. Andrew Jones needs more ABs as well.
Vlad is hilarious he just swings as hard as he can and wherever the ball goes it goes.
Did I say that Irreverent? No, I didn’t. I said they are inconsistent.
The Yankees scored 5+ runs in 50%+ of their games. The Yankees scored 4 runs in about 16% of their games. 3 runs in ~13% and 2 or less in about ~16%
Seems to me they score a lot of runs more often than not.
whew, Free Baseball
No, Irreverent, championship teams usually are not this inconsistent.
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Prove it.
Please score.
“And don’t look now but Grandy is under .270 again and Cano looks awful. A-Rod looks lost too. Chavez has done nothing since coming off the DL.”
Man, some of you guys must not watch much baseball.
Must we look at Buck’s face every five minutes.
No, Irreverent, championship teams usually are not this inconsistent. Do they always perform well? No, of course not. Not over 162 games. But they are usually not as inconsistent as this team has been offensively over the past couple of seasons.
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have you seen boston lately?
15 runs then 0
12 runs then 0
15 runs then 1.
good teams are often inconsistent…
call me crazt but ill take inconsistently 33 games over 500 than consistently at .500
With 17 pitchers on the team, why does Girardi want to piss the game away with Proctor?
If they can just keep nunez out of the field they might have a shot
and Proctor gives them a scoreless inning. good enough.
validity? Wow… didn’t realize i was back in college taking logic 101. Its called common sense. Great teams have the ability to score early, often, and tack on runs and beat up bullpens. That’s what makes teams like the sox and yankees so tough to face. Don’t think i need to prove validity behind that statement… if you watch baseball enough its something you just know.
By the way, this is the minute you worried about two minutes ago…
oh wow…..
i thought the game was over when proctor starting warming up…
isnt that was 10 people here told us?
Wow that is amazing…Now can the offense please wake up?!!! Girardi should let Montero pinch hit.
Niblick September 8th, 2011 at 4:21 pm
With 17 pitchers on the team, why does Girardi want to piss the game away with Proctor?
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Are you even watching the game?
Which offense is better than the Yankees?
Now watch idiot joe push his luck and send proctor out again
This game is over, another wasted chance to put away a crappy team and put some more distance between us and the field. Sending in Proctor is stupid. He is probably one of the worst pitchers on the staff.
“With 17 pitchers on the team, why does Girardi want to piss the game away with Proctor?”
Because everyone else is either garbage, or a rookie who has never appeared in a game.
Dill Pickler – I think you have no idea how consistent good offenses are. Bring some numbers to the table or stop whining.
ac 1 — My point is that I want this team to win it all. Not just be a “good” team, but a great team. A championship team. And in my experience, championship teams are usually more consistent offensively than this.
Look, no one is saying the Yankees don’t score a lot of runs. But seriously, the offense hasn’t looked very good today. It’s not the end of the world. But if the regulars are going to start, they might as well put together good ABs and not be sat down by the Orioles bullpen in 2 minutes. Seriously, I turned my head from the TV a few times and the Yankees were done batting by the time I looked back. It seems like they are all in a huge rush.
Like I said, this isn’t a huge game. But there still isn’t any reason you shouldn’t want the offense to put on a better display than they are here.
or not available
Seriously …..why do they show Showalter like every other pitch? Nobody wants to see him stand over there and smirk all game.
Nice job Proctor!
Cano- GS on Monday
Arod- RBI Double yesterday
Chavez- RBI Tuesday
Grandy- Lead league in RBI
all quiet in the pen, proctors game to lose unless they score
Grandyman.. this would be a good time for No. 39. Joey Bats is waiting …
is anyone warming up rope
It Would be nice to see Arod try to prove to us all that this is still his team. Obviously that torch has been passed to grandy and cano.
Irreverent — you bring some numbers to the table or stop whining. Who the h— do you think you are, ordering people around? Go play with yourself.
“And don’t look now but Grandy is under .270 again and Cano looks awful. A-Rod looks lost too. Chavez has done nothing since coming off the DL.”
Um, Cano hit a grand slam a few days ago, Arod has also been getting on base, and Chavez has too had hits since coming off the DL. Grandy is so damned good I won’t even dignify your remark on him.
BIG PICTURE PLEASE! You can’t put every game under a microscope.
The Proctologist makes the Sori performance a moo point.
So what’s more shocking… The fact that Davis, who struck out 5 times yesterday, actually got 3 hits today & hasn’t struck out yet…. OR…. extra innings with the deja vu score feeling.
The Red Sox scored 0 runs in 11 innings against the Jays the other night.
Which team has a championship offense?
Grandy… ugh…
Seriously …..why do they show Showalter like every other pitch? Nobody wants to see him stand over there and smirk all game.
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Its really annoying.
This is a big game with a formidable Angels team on the horizon
ac 1 — My point is that I want this team to win it all. Not just be a “good” team, but a great team. A championship team. And in my experience, championship teams are usually more consistent offensively than this.
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I know what your point is, but this is better than a good team. And the teams that are in the playoffs are often inconsistent.
Giants offense?
Phillies offense?
Boston’s offense?
Texas offense?
All get hot and cold, giants cold all the time.
Granderson’s strike outs are really adding up
The O’s didn’t get good wood off Proctor, but his command didn’t look good to me.
and then 14 runs the next/previous? night
Hope the players brought their own pillows for flight west…they look dead tired.
“The Red Sox scored 0 runs in 11 innings against the Jays the other night.”
and also scored 10 runs and lost last night.
what is that person yelling about Teix.
Trisha..You’re a lifeboat, in a sea of idiots.
Thank you.
“But there still isn’t any reason you shouldn’t want the offense to put on a better display than they are here.”
They’re tired. When they have a chance to revitalize they will be fine. Plus don’t let a game or two throw you. I believe they scored 11 runs in a game a few days ago. Not every game is going to be the same.
Way to swing at Ball 4 there, buddy
“And don’t look now but Grandy is under .270 again and Cano looks awful. A-Rod looks lost too. Chavez has done nothing since coming off the DL.”
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why even bother responding to this?
I think A-Rod has two rbis yesterday, and chavez had them today?
Alex is due.
Goose pitching for the O’s?
And were going to LA playing like this?
Granderson’s strike outs are really adding up
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He’s costing himself the MVP unless he gets hot the last 3 weeks here. He is supposed to be destroying this garbage Os pitching
What, is he going to get his HRs against Weaver, Santana, Haren, Felix, Pedina?
What, is he going to get his HRs against Weaver, Santana, Haren, Felix, Pedina?
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Prolly.
Ironic thing is, everyone claimed that pitching wins championships and thats why the giants wont it all last year. Fast forward to this season, their best offensive player goes down, they cant score runs and they wont even make the playoffs. Think it goes to show, that it takes a balance of both to win.
And were going to LA playing like this?
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You mean a team that has won something lke 80% of games the last two weeks?
I’m calling a Cano blast off Rapada.
Girardi really has to consider sitting everyone tomorrow and starting yesterday’s B lineup. These guys look like they have nothing left in the tank and they need a break. The 3 hour time change definitely isn’t going to help.
No one can name a better offense than the Yankees?
That’s strange.
“They’re tired. When they have a chance to revitalize they will be fine. Plus don’t let a game or two throw you. I believe they scored 11 runs in a game a few days ago. Not every game is going to be the same.”
If they are so tired like you say they are, then there’s absolutely no reason they should be playing. How are they going to become rested? By hopping on a plane to LA? In this case, Girardi might as well just play the subs and at least they won’t be tired.
Dill Pickler – I have numbers. The yankees lead the league in runs scored and runs/game. They do not have problems scoring runs at all. You only think they do. Who are you to complain with lies and no facts?
Ironic thing is, everyone claimed that pitching wins championships and thats why the giants wont it all last year. Fast forward to this season, their best offensive player goes down, they cant score runs and they wont even make the playoffs. Think it goes to show, that it takes a balance of both to win.
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Not everyone.
robbie knows boom. Time to put this bad boy away. 6-4 yanks.
Rivera is now throwing
How far has AROD fallen when its a good thing that he gets a walk with the game on the line so someone else can bat…
You mean a team that has won something lke 80% of games the last two weeks
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Your right on that one, but not the last two games
Ac: I know what your point is, but this is better than a good team. And the teams that are in the playoffs are often inconsistent. Giants offense? Phillies offense? Boston’s offense?
Texas offense? All get hot and cold, giants cold all the time.”
The Giants are built around pitching. Comparing the Giants offensively to the Yanks is not really appropriate. Every team is different. We have an offense full of star players. They scored 3 runs or less in a full one-third of their games last year, and, according to someone else’s statistics in this thread 29 percent so far this year.
Am I saying that makes it impossible for us to win it all? Of course not. I’m just saying I wish our offense would be a bit more consistent, and it’s frustrating to watch them be totally shut down by a bunch of bad Orioles relievers.
Buck is overplaying his hand here….Cano has seen Rapada recently and won’t let him off so easy
I think Buck thinks this is the play offs. He should use this much effort against other teams.
” I agree, Cervelli has an arm problem, but to complain about him today is pretty stupid, in my opinion.”
tomingeorgia-
if his errant throw had gotten teixeira’s arm broken that would have been a bit of a problem.
cervelli made a great tag on markakis and made a nice throw to third when the runner stupidly tried to steal third with two outs.
but it would be nice to see cervelli make it through a game with a clean slate of no stolen bases against him, no bad throws, and no over the top fist pumps that piss off the other team.
must be nice to work 24 hours a week and get paid 30 million a year.
Am I saying that makes it impossible for us to win it all? Of course not. I’m just saying I wish our offense would be a bit more consistent, and it’s frustrating to watch them be totally shut down by a bunch of bad Orioles relievers.
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What team has a more consistent offense?
munson15, I swear I will never understand the inability of some posters to look at all factors in play before they get all twisted. It’s mind boggling to me. Happy you’re here.
Jammed him.
They scored 3 runs or less in a full one-third of their games last year, and, according to someone else’s statistics in this thread 29 percent so far this year.
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25% in 2009. A championship team. A 4th of their games?! 3 runs or less!? Inconceivable!
Now mo sits and clueless joe leaves us stuck with proctor
Sorry Curtis. U don’t win Mvps hitting 250
So far, this is very reminiscent of last September… start off the month very hot the first few games, then start to slide because the offense goes cold and the bullpen starts to spring leaks.
Just like the Texas/Tampa road trip last year really hurt them, this 10 game trip is probably going to be really rough. And they lose 2 to the Orioles going in.
People kill Girardi for ‘taking the foot off the gas’ how about the big time players start performing in September?
Irreverent — total runs and average runs per game — which is simply based on total runs — doesn’t prove consistency.
A full 1/3 of their games last year they scored 3 runs or fewer, and nearly that figure this year.
And …. lies? You crack me up.
Hi all…just checking in from my room. Based on some extreme comments I guess the Yanks are losing
They scored 3 runs or less in a full one-third of their games last year, and, according to someone else’s statistics in this thread 29 percent so far this year.
Oh, you DO know where the numbers are. Guess you won’t quote the yankee’s numbers because they are not bad like you think they are.
Ironic thing is, everyone claimed that pitching wins championships and thats why the giants wont it all last year
This isn’t exactly true. The Giants pitching got them enough wins to make the postseason. Their offense won the World Series for them.
28% in 1998, one of the greatest teams ever.
If Alex was due, Robbie was do-do. Oh well…
Dill Pickler – A full 1/3 of their games last year they scored 3 runs or fewer, and nearly that figure this year
So what teams have been better? Your lack of substance is telling.
Girardi proctering scott procter’s arm by having him pitch another inning…
shades of torre…
“Just like the Texas/Tampa road trip last year really hurt them, this 10 game trip is probably going to be really rough. And they lose 2 to the Orioles going in.”
So you are predicting not just the result of today’s game, but the next ten days. You better go to Vegas.
“Girardi proctering scott procter’s arm by having him pitch another inning…”
Except this version of Proctor sucks and is OK to be abused LOL
Torre’s version was our best SU reliever for 2 years
well, if we do end up losing… the good positive thing is that we could have won both games. Blown saves, errors… can all be corrected. Your a pretty good team when your losing games you still have a chance to win until the final out. That’s a pretty darn nice luxuary to have. Some teams just get their buts wooped and hope for better results the next day. We seem to be in every game no matter what.
LGY: What team has a more consistent offense?
The ’98 Yanks. What am I, the baseball almanac? You want answers, go look them up.
Gee Jarhead, let’s do some math…if you have a crappy pitcher with an ERA over 6.00 and he somehow gets out of losing the game in the 1st inning he pitches, why don’t you see if you can squeeze another inning out of him, right? I mean the law of averages is that if your ERA is 6, then you give up a run every 1.5 innings right ?….and 2 is a number that is LESS than 1.5, RIGHT ? It’s right there in the Binder, Jarhead….Go with your strength…..PROCTOR ! Great move !
Scott Proctor throws hard……. wow.
What am I, the baseball almanac?
No, you are the complete lack of facts and evidence.
You want answers, go look them up.
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The burden of proof is on the whiner.
it’s now Sept. and they’re still getting victimized by an unusual amount of infield hits and other strategically placed grounders
Yank1 September 8th, 2011 at 4:36 pm
“Girardi proctering scott procter’s arm by having him pitch another inning…”
Except this version of Proctor sucks and is OK to be abused LOL
Torre’s version was our best SU reliever for 2 years
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the problem with that is that this game was/is still winnable – why press your luck with procter for second inning..i don’t have a binder in front of me but if i did i bet it would say that procter sucks even more in his second inning of work…
LGY: What team has a more consistent offense?
The ’98 Yanks. What am I, the baseball almanac? You want answers, go look them up.
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So what you’re saying is that you have no idea if any other team in MLB is more consistent but you KNOW the Yankees are not consistent enough or a championship offense?
Seems like a pretty stupid way to form an opinion, no?
now that was a FINE pitch, right down the middle, doing exactly what you want to do, which is give the batter the best shot at getting good wood on the ball….no….wait…you DON’T want to do that?…got it,….what game is this that we are playing again ?
If the offense keeps sputtering and they keep playing close games, guys like Proctor will inevitably find themselves in these tight games. Ditto for Laffey, Ayala, and the rest of them.
“still getting victimized by an unusual amount of infield hits ”
Wet field might have something to do with that.
Since I’m following the game through ESPN gamecast, what is with all the infield singles to shortstop.. there have been 3-4 of those through the game … finding the holes or is it slow dribblers?
The law of averages does not “make up for” things that already happened. You can only project that things will continue to perform at average.
If you’re a .300 hitter and you got 0-10, it doesn’t mean you’re going to go 10-20 and “make it up”… it means you are likely to go 3/10 at any given point.
Our run diff is 27 points higher this year than last year on this date but yet we have a worse record. Road record is better, home record is worse.
“If they are so tired like you say they are, then there’s absolutely no reason they should be playing. ”
I believe this was a command performance dictated by MLB. Girardi is doing a real balancing act here because he’s trying to win the division as well as not wear out his regulars. Ain’t easy!
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Tabbert, this is my own thing, but I get beyond annoyed when posters disparage the “lesser” teams, as if every game they play should result in a loss! They’re still major league players and they still have the ability to win games. Remember that the Washington Nationals, by far one of the worst teams in the majors when it happened, swept the Yankees at the Stadium. These are not scrubs. They are major league players who know how to swing a bat and throw a ball. Sometimes they combine to do it well enough to amass wins. I don’t find it an embarrassment to lose to any team. (well, there’s one team in particular I chose to annihilate every time we face them, but it has nothing to do with embarrassment.
Irreverent: “Oh, you DO know where the numbers are. Guess you won’t quote the yankee’s numbers because they are not bad like you think they are.”
There you go again, making up stuff and claiming I said it.
You’re the one who’s obsessed with numbers. I never said their numbers were bad, I said they were inconsistent. For this offense, scoring 3 runs or fewer in 1/3 of their games is inconsistent in my opinion. You don’t like my opinion? I couldn’t care less.
Tabbert September 8th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
well, if we do end up losing… the good positive thing is that we could have won both games. Blown saves, errors… can all be corrected. Your a pretty good team when your losing games you still have a chance to win until the final out. That’s a pretty darn nice luxuary to have. Some teams just get their buts wooped and hope for better results the next day. We seem to be in every game no matter what.
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Tabbert thats all well and good but these are the orioles..the 35 games under .500 orioles..even a bad bullpen shouldn’t lose to a team like this 2 days in a row…they have 2 guys on that team that strikeout more than 200 times a year..
if cervelli throws out this guy at first of he goes, then he will have had a really good day.
Yanks78 September 8th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
So far, this is very reminiscent of last September… start off the month very hot the first few games, then start to slide because the offense goes cold and the bullpen starts to spring leaks.
Just like the Texas/Tampa road trip last year really hurt them, this 10 game trip is probably going to be really rough. And they lose 2 to the Orioles going in.
People kill Girardi for ‘taking the foot off the gas’ how about the big time players start performing in September?
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Jesus, easy tiger. Before yesterday they won 9 out of 10 games. Some of you have to calm down. Game is not even over yet. Enjoy the game and don’t fret about every little play. I saw some guy nail Granderson for striking out in the 9th. I wonder how that fool felt last thursday when he was making game saving plays versus Boston. Bunch of couch athletes on this lame blog.
The loser O’s are running wild on the Yanks in this series
Dill Pickler – For this offense, scoring 3 runs or fewer in 1/3 of their games is inconsistent in my opinion. You don’t like my opinion? I couldn’t care less.
Your opinion is completely meaningless without context. Is that worst in the league? best? when you actually form an opinion and stop babbling, get back to us.
“well, if we do end up losing… the good positive thing is that we could have won both games. Blown saves, errors… can all be corrected. Your a pretty good team when your losing games you still have a chance to win until the final out. That’s a pretty darn nice luxuary to have. Some teams just get their buts wooped and hope for better results the next day. We seem to be in every game no matter what.”
So very well said!
“The law of averages does not “make up for” things that already happened.”
Yes it does…it’s called regression to the mean.
“The loser O’s are running wild on the Yanks in this series”
At least they are attempting to manufacture a run to win the ballgame, not just sitting back trying to hit it over the fence
and that was a SUPER CLOSE pitch on Ball 4….better leave him out there Joe….there is nobody else on the team that can pitch today…
uh-oh….
Kontos throwing. Like it matters now
Need a DP
There you go
LGY: “So what you’re saying is that you have no idea if any other team in MLB is more consistent but you KNOW the Yankees are not consistent enough or a championship offense?”
Show me where I said I KNOW with certainty that they’re not consistent enough to win a championship? In fact, I said the opposite, that, well, here is exactly what I said:
“Am I saying that makes it impossible for us to win it all? Of course not. I’m just saying I wish our offense would be a bit more consistent, and it’s frustrating to watch them be totally shut down by a bunch of bad Orioles relievers.”
I don’t claim to KNOW it all. I’m not that arrogant. I leave that for others on this board.
Get DRob up….bases soon to be loaded.
what an idiot, Joe again shows he is….he is simply throwing this game. Gotta a love a manager that sees the big picture….DOLT !
Wow Proctor was effective
PERFECT ! LOVE YA JOE….YOU ARE THE BEST !
Trish- I agree with that
However, i get annoyed when we play teams with less talent and we blow saves, make errors, and basically gift wrap games. Obviously any team can win on any given day… but the o’s arent really winning these games, we are blowing them. That’s what makes it frustrating. Like i said, im not worried big picture. Just a tad annoyed at the moment.
The O’s have some good young players.
Onward and upward. Hope for a Sux loss tonight, and put this one in the mirror.
Fretting doesn’t change the result. The Yankees are still in first place.
I am glad Andino turned into Manny Ramirez in this series.
Oh darn, only 6-2 in the last eight games that were played in hurricane conditions.
They are probably looking forward to the trip west.
how about a nice little double play here… ah crap, losing is never as much fun as winning.
“Tabbert, this is my own thing, but I get beyond annoyed when posters disparage the “lesser” teams, as if every game they play should result in a loss! They’re still major league players and they still have the ability to win games. Remember that the Washington Nationals, by far one of the worst teams in the majors when it happened, swept the Yankees at the Stadium. These are not scrubs.”
That’s a nice thought, but you’re dead wrong. The single reason the Yankees are in 1st place right now is because they have beat up on bad teams. That’s the lone reason. What is the Yankees record against the Red Sox? How come the Red Sox aren’t in first place then? Because they haven’t beat up on the bad teams like the Yankees have. That’s the difference in the division right now. If the Yankees continue to lose to bad teams, then they won’t be in first place anymore. It’s as simple as that.
Can’t believe andino the scrub beats us
God, I hate the Orioles.
For this offense, scoring 3 runs or fewer in 1/3 of their games is inconsistent in my opinion.
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That was last year, this year its 29% which is only 4% worse than the 98 yankees.
the agony ends.
Scratch that….
Why is Scott Proctor allowed to lose games for this team? 2 bad losses to a terrible team.
Vito-
I’m no huge fan of Joe, but he can’t blow out our best arms in every game.
Don Vito A. Bellamo September 8th, 2011 at 4:44 pm
what an idiot, Joe again shows he is….he is simply throwing this game. Gotta a love a manager that sees the big picture….DOLT !
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I think he was guilty of something he often is, looking ahead instead of playing the game at hand.
And only marginally worse than the world series winning 2009 yankees.
Tabbert, remember though that yesterday’s game was played without our regular lineup – and of necessity. The hurricane wreaked havoc with everything. I have to believe that yesterday’s game would have been won with our starting 8 (meaning the regulars behind/in front of the pitcher).
Proctor. Knew it. How bout them yanks. Sigh.
honest question.
i haven’t been watching games closely the past few days. why was proctor in there for so long if girardi was really trying to win the game ?
Well when you have to have 6 starters, 2 LOOGYS, and a closer not allowed to pitch in a tie game on the road, the game necessarily gets turned over to Scott Proctor.
What a surprise.
4-4 in the last 8 against the pathetic Os
Great way to head off on a tough road trip.
I believe that this might be the first time this year that Nova had a lead and didn’t bring home the win.
One week we all think we have the most dominate, unstoppable, team of destiny in the world. The following week, we all wonder how this team is even going to make the playoffs.
Gotta love the 162 game season.
Mailing in the last two games… why even show up
Don’t blame Proctor, he’s not a multi-inning pitcher.
Crappy loss.
TheStraw – Law of averages and Regression to the mean are very different things. Regression only works in the context of a larger data set, and usually involves other data sets that can be used to determine influence on the primary set. The “law of averages” generally involves one data set.
Dill Pickler September 8th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
ac 1 — My point is that I want this team to win it all. Not just be a “good” team, but a great team. A championship team. And in my experience, championship teams are usually more consistent offensively than this.
Dill Pickler September 8th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
“Every offense in baseball is extremely inconsistent. Anyone who doesn’t realize that has blinders on.”
No, Irreverent, championship teams usually are not this inconsistent. Do they always perform well? No, of course not. Not over 162 games. But they are usually not as inconsistent as this team has been offensively over the past couple of seasons.
“If the Yankees continue to lose to bad teams, then they won’t be in first place anymore. It’s as simple as that.”
They split a 4 game set played in two different cities, after having won five in a row against two above average teams. Look at the facts before you make a dumb statement like that.
So there you go. They’re not as consistent as either of those two world-series winning teams.
“Can’t believe andino the scrub beats us”
Guess he’s not the scrub you thought he was.
“That was last year, this year its 29% which is only 4% worse than the 98 yankees.”
Well 4% is a lot in baseball. It’s a game of inches.
And there is Buck at the end of the game with a smirk on his face. Hate that guy.
Too bad for him when he wakes up in the morning he still will be the manager for the crappy O’s. Have fun watching the Yankees play in October Buckeroo
“They split a 4 game set played in two different cities, after having won five in a row against two above average teams. Look at the facts before you make a dumb statement like that.”
Thanks Straw. Kind of amazed myself by the statement.
“i haven’t been watching games closely the past few days. why was proctor in there for so long if girardi was really trying to win the game ?”
Because it’s just how Girardi manages…..he’ll risk losing a game in order to keep guys fresh.
This was a pretty pathetic effort by everyone. Crappy offense. 6 innings of no hit ball in relief and 8 strikeouts. The mighty O’s bullpen squashes the Yankee offense.
Pathetic.
Let’s hear from the idiots. Yankees suck, binder Joe blew this one, Yankees have no offense, Gardner is a 4th OF, Yankees can’t hit good pitching, Yankees can’t hit bad pitching, Alex is washed up, Tex sucks……blah, blah, blah, blah blah……….
Dill Pickler
Unless you can name a team in MLB THIS year that has a better/more consistent offense than the Yankees it is stupid to claim that the Yankees offense is not consistent enough.
Well 4% is a lot in baseball. It’s a game of inches.
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Its 6 games. 3 games compared to 2009. Oh nooo.
Yes, LGY. Note the use of the words “usually” and “in my experience.” Those are called qualifiers. Hardly screaming the words “I KNOW” this to be true for an absolute fact! that you would have people believe I said.
Trish- I agree.
Like i posted a week back, no one will remember this game when we open up our first playoff game. It simply wont matter anymore. But, I really want to win the division so it just upsetting to lose these type of games. My mavericks won the nba finals, but no one remembers that they were the 3 seed… it simply doesn’t matter. When push comes to shove, this team can go toe to toe with anyone in baseball and when its for all the marbles i got my money on the new york yankees.
Proctor was throwing hard, but they guessed right a couple of times on his off speed stuff and the walk killed. His FB is very straight. Really don’t know why he’s here again. He’s not close to what he was and I don’t see him really helping. Some new blood needs to get a chance.
Soriano is still a hit and miss proposition.
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Thanks for the Math lesson…..but my point is that when you win the 13 of the first 16 games against one team, you’re bound to lose a couple. I could care less about you correcting my terminology.
“why was proctor in there for so long if girardi was really trying to win the game ?””
If you won’t pitch Mo, have to keep a 6th starter, use 2 LOOGIES for 2 batters, you run out of pitchers don’t you?
TheStraw – My point was that you are not “bound to lose”, that concept doesn’t actually exist.
The Orioles just won their WS…..they split a series with the Yankees.
No, LGY. The proof will be in the pudding. We’ll simply see if their offense is consistent enough to win it all this year. If they do, I’ll happily admit I was wrong, because I’m a Yankee fan and I want them to win it all.
It sucks that they lost to Buck, but let’s face it, unlike yesterday where all 5 runs could be tied to infield miscues mostly from *cough*Nunez*cough*, the defense today made great plays and probably saved the O’s from scoring an extra 3+ runs. From Cano’s great play early, swish in rf, and the home plate plates & whatever else.
I guess it was just a matter of time before the luck ran out
“Its 6 games. 3 games compared to 2009. Oh nooo.”
6 games is a lot. You’d love a 6 WAR player, wouldn’t you?
No, LGY. The proof will be in the pudding. We’ll simply see if their offense is consistent enough to win it all this year. If they do, I’ll happily admit I was wrong, because I’m a Yankee fan and I want them to win it all.
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What if they win it all by shutting down some teams and out scoring others? What if they don’t consistently hit through the playoffs? What if everything you’ve said is nonsense?
ID-
Go tell your statistics professor.
miller is pitching tonight vs romero.
Advantage JAYS
Dill Pickler – Try not to trip while you are back-peddling.
Soriano’s loss……he was very hittable and not very good in general….the pitch the game was tied on had a hit me sign attached to it. Im tired of him…..bring up Betances and see if he can do better……
I bet they’re all already asleep on the cab ride to the airport.
TheStraw – I’m not trying to argue with you. Don’t tell me it’s “regression to the mean” and then get pissy when I actually explain it you you. Next time, don’t say anything.
Two disgraceful losses to the worst team in baseball. Stump managed like they were spring training games. Logan and Soriano are a joke. Its one and done in the playoffs for these pretenders.
6 games is a lot. You’d love a 6 WAR player, wouldn’t you?
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Who says they have to lose any of those 6 games? The 98 Yankees were playing in the steroid era when teams AVERAGED 5 runs a game.
No, LGY. The proof will be in the pudding. We’ll simply see if their offense is consistent enough to win it all this year. If they do, I’ll happily admit I was wrong, because I’m a Yankee fan and I want them to win it all.
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That doesn’t make any sense. You are whining about the Yankee offense without any context.
Unless you can name an offense in a better position to win a championship then according to your standards no team in MLB has a consistent enough offense to win a championship.
A day for bad curve balls. I seriously hope we don’t continue to overuse Proctor.
“When push comes to shove, this team can go toe to toe with anyone in baseball and when its for all the marbles i got my money on the new york yankees.”
Absolutely. And keep fingers crossed for another Sux loss at Rogers.
It’s all good.
I guess posters who don’t understand these two losses are the same ones who never perform less than perfectly, under all circumstances, and especially when they’re falt out tired. Me, I know that when I’m tired I definitely am not at the top of my game. But then I’m not perfect. That’s why I choose to understand the imperfection in others – well some others. Perfect people have a harder time with any kind of losing since they themselves are incapable of it.
If you want to put the blame on something in this game, how about bad luck and bad baserunning by Swish in the first….could well have been a 10-3 laugher if not for that DP.
Wow, Just realized that they Phillies and Brew crew open up a series in Miller Park Tonight.
That is going to be one series that all baseball fans should tune in and watch.
Sorry, the second inning…
Wont surprise me if Hughes is pitching the 7th in October.
Wont surprise me if Hughes is pitching the 7th in October.
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That seems to be where they are heading.
“They split a 4 game set played in two different cities, after having won five in a row against two above average teams. Look at the facts before you make a dumb statement like that.”
Do you not understand English or are you just delusional? The Yankees have a 2 game lead right now. If they lose tonight, they have a 1.5 game lead. I repeat: if the Yankees CONTINUE (meaning, like the last 2 games) to lose to bad teams, they will LOSE the division. What part don’t you understand?
Or are you just delusional and believe that a 1.5 game lead is sufficient to win the division while losing to bad teams? I repeat, it might be a 1.5 game lead after tonight. What they did last week is irrelevant as irrelevant can be. Again, let me know which part you don’t understand and I’ll explain. Because you don’t seem to understand how a 1.5 game lead can disappear if you continue to lose to awful teams.
What if everything you’ve said is a load of boorish, self-aggrandizing goat poop? What if you weren’t a bloviating clinchpoop who thinks himself the King of the Message Board? Well, if a frog had wings he wouldn’t bump his ass a-hoppin’.
Hey all – John Kruk has picked these hapless Yankees to win it all, according to WEEI. And we all know how he hates the Yanks.
Maybe they’re not as terrible as we think?
Dill Pickler – You are the one that called the most consistent offense in baseball “inconsistent” and then couldn’t prove that to be true. No one to be mad at but yourself.
” If they lose tonight”
Sorry, that should be “if Boston wins tonight”
If the O’s hadn’t put on as display of staggeringly bad baserunning, they’d have won the game by 4 runs.
The Yanks just seemed to be sleepwalking today.
Cervelli played really gutty today though. I don’t know if the Montero crowd would have wanted Montero taking those hits.
Trish- i think your spot on.
I believe this team is just like okay, okay… lets get this series over and get out west. They are tired, its been a hectic week, there has been tons of crazy stuff going on right now on the east coast, they have a rough road trip coming up. I think the team is tired, and also anxious to just get on the road and get this road trip over with. All of this rain, and all of these delays, late starts, games being moved to different days would take its toll on anyone. I expect this team to come out and really impress us all on the road trip.
You come at the King, you best not miss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WP-lrftLQaQ
DF0x-
I would love to win the division, but it’s not paramount…..making the playoffs is. If the Yankees merely go 10-10 in the last 20 games, the Rays need to win all 20 to knock them out of the playoffs.
Your point is moot anyhow, because except for Seattle, the remainder of the games are against good teams.
“Because you don’t seem to understand how a 1.5 game lead can disappear if you continue to lose to awful teams.”
How about if they continue to beat the better teams? Does that count? They swept Toronto and took their series against the Sux.
(also MTU was voted King of the Messageboard)
ID — “couldn’t prove that to be true” according to who? I don’t feel the need to prove anything to you.
You are the one who tried to make s–t up and attribute it to me, and got caught doing it. No one to be mad at but yourself. Have a nice day trolling.
Dill Pickler – Why bother posting your opinion anywhere if you are not interested in people believing it? Why should anyone believe anything you say without a shred of proof?
I didn’t make anything up, you apparently just forgot all the posts you made.
Dill Pickler – Your refusal to answer a simple question like “which offenses are better/more consistant” only shows that you are talking out of the seat of your pants.
Well I will bid adieu to the rational posters here and hope the others find their way to feeling okay about things. For me it’s all good. I can’t kvetch about two losses to any team. In my book, they all know how to play ball.
“How about if they continue to beat the better teams? Does that count? They swept Toronto and took their series against the Sux.”
That’s fine too, but just look at the stats. That isn’t how they become the division leaders. The Red Sox are in 2nd, I repeat, 2nd place right now because they had trouble beating bad teams. That’s the whole point. Bad teams are bad. Yes, they can win on any given day. But the more they do it against you, the less chance you have of ending up in 1st place. Just ask the Red Sox.
“I would love to win the division, but it’s not paramount…..making the playoffs is. If the Yankees merely go 10-10 in the last 20 games, the Rays need to win all 20 to knock them out of the playoffs.”
I’m aware they’re going to make the playoffs. I chose my words carefully. I said they won’t win the division if they continue it. I still think they’ll make the playoffs. Definitely not paramount to win the division, but it would be nice…
Don’t expect the Yanks to take 2 of 3 from the Angels. They still have our number and the pitching to stop us. Mostly punch and judy hitters, but effective against us. Trumbo looks like the real deal also.
Saying that, I hope we can pick it up against them.
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2011 at 4:58 pm
Hey all – John Kruk has picked these hapless Yankees to win it all, according to WEEI. And we all know how he hates the Yanks.
Maybe they’re not as terrible as we think?
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Well, that’s surely the kiss of death ! Kruk couldn’t pick his nose !
ID — I’m not answering your stupid question because it has no relevance. The Yankee offense doesn’t hit against other offenses. It’s something you pulled out of the seat of your pants (if you even wear pants) to bloviate. It means nothing.
Whatever other offenses do is relevant to their team as a whole. The Red Sox need to score enough runs so that they win games. The Angels the same. Same for the Tigers and the Mariners. Whether any other teams have more consistent offenses than the Yankees is meaningless. They may not have to, because they may have better pitching than we do. The Yankees team — especially this year — is built on offense. Sure, Nova and Colon and Garcia have been pleasant surprises, but can we count on them to shut down Boston, Texas, Detroit in the postseason?
If our offense struggles (we didn’t get a hit after the fourth inning, so struggling is putting it midlly) against the Orioles — who have the worst pitching staff in the league — how does that bode for our chances against Boston’s pitching, or Detroit’s, or Texas’?
And finally, Irreverent, the fact that I don’t stoop to your little game and answer the questions you choose is because you don’t get to choose the questions. You are arguing with yourself. I presented an opinion, one which I am entitled to. As I said earlier, I could not care less whether you agree with it or not. But don’t presume to be “running” things to the point that you can throw out your stupid, pointless questions to me and demand that I answer them or…. or….. or what? You’ll hold your face until you turn blue? You’ll fill your pants with …. rage? What? I don’t care what you do, actually.
Run along now and find someone else to try and bully. You’ve failed big-time with me.