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Orioles walk off against Yankees

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 08, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Walked into my hotel room in Los Angeles just in time to see Gameday updates of the 10th inning in Baltimore. The Yankees had an early lead in this one, and they never trailed until the very end when the Orioles walked off with a 5-4 win. Scott Proctor gave up the winning run, Rafael Soriano let the Orioles tie it two innings earlier and Ivan Nova took a no decision. All of the Yankees runs came in the first two innings, including a three-run first.

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126 Responses to “Orioles walk off against Yankees”

  1. LGY September 8th, 2011 at 4:59 pm

    It’s amazing how the Soriano signing just continues to get worse.

  2. Wave Your Hat September 8th, 2011 at 5:00 pm

    If the O’s hadn’t put on as display of staggeringly bad baserunning, they’d have won the game by 4 runs.

    The Yanks just seemed to be sleepwalking today.

    Cervelli played really gutty today though. I don’t know if the Montero crowd would have wanted Montero taking those hits.

  3. jacksquat September 8th, 2011 at 5:01 pm

    I think we can be 99% sure Soriano will not be opting out.

  4. Irreverent Discourse September 8th, 2011 at 5:02 pm

    LGY – I never really noticed last year… did he just wing that 2-seamer over the plate all the time? he clearly doesn’t think it will get hit…

  5. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    Losing two in a row to the orioles is gross …..I am not. Going to put this all on Soriano as it appears the yanks did nada offensively since early in the game. Bad job.

  6. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    They need to get Betances up and see how he looks in short relief……Soriano isn’t getting it done.

  7. TheStraw September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    DFox-

    I would love to win the division, but it’s not paramount…..making the playoffs is. If the Yankees merely go 10-10 in the last 20 games, the Rays need to win all 20 to knock them out of the playoffs.

    Your point is moot anyhow, because except for Seattle, the remainder of the games are against good teams.

  8. TheStraw September 8th, 2011 at 5:06 pm

    Team misses Joba right now………

  9. AZ88 September 8th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    sportsJC16
    Another horrible Soriano outing. Only salary keeps him on the post-season roster. Another guy Girardi can’t trust in the PS.

    sportsJC16
    The dilemma Girardi faces in the PS..he has 4 P’s, AJ, Hughes, Soriano, and Logan who shouldn’t sniff a PS roster.

    sportsJC16
    Unfortunately, some or all of those 4 will make it for reasons other than productivity. That makes #Yankees a weaker team in PS. Not good.

  10. LGY September 8th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    ID,

    I remember Soriano throwing a lot more 4 seamers last year and blowing them by people.

  11. Wave Your Hat September 8th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Oh please, we don’t need SJ44 by proxy.

  12. TheStraw September 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Geez SJ44 is making Soriano sound a little worse than he actually is….

  13. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    “The Yanks just seemed to be sleepwalking today.”

    Wave, long said the players are exhausted. He said he was tired and he hasn’t been playing games. Factor that in and understand that when people are tired, they tend to underproduce.

    Betsy, it doesn’t matter who you put it on or don’t put it on. The Yankees schedule with the hurricane factored in hasn’t been a pleasant one. And they did most of the travelling.

  14. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Saw a discussion earlier about the playoff rotation. It amazes me how people refuse to trust Freddy … I mean, come on…he has been great all year and now he should fight it out with two guys who are as unreliable as the day is long?

  15. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Trumbo looks like the real deal? Did you mean the real deer? *smug*

    .256 .295 .481 .776

  16. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    The Yanks should adopt an organizational policy to never trade for or give any FA reliever (not named Mariano Rivera) more than a 1 year 5 million dollar contract. Relievers are relievers for a reason……build your own

  17. LGY September 8th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Maybe Soriano thinks he needs to throw more 2 seamers because he’s an extreme fly ball pitcher and YS is not kind to flyball pitchers?

    I don’t know…But he sucks and I hate watching him pitch.

  18. MannyBanuelos September 8th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    LMAO @ Girardi

    Proctor is AWFUL. He isn’t an ML level pitcher and has NO BUSINESS on this team!

  19. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2011 at 5:10 pm

    Straw, I pointed out to DFox that he needed to also look at the fact that the Yankees swept the Jays and took the series against the Sux. So those things wash each other out and still find the Yankees in first place. And as you said, the better teams are on the way so we should be fine.

    :)

  20. Yank1 September 8th, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    “I don’t know…But he sucks and I hate watching him pitch.”

    That about sums it up.

    Would love to have Joba right about now.

  21. rr212 September 8th, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Another xtra inning loss. Not a lot of faith for the postseaso when they can’t win close games.

  22. BoJo September 8th, 2011 at 5:11 pm

    Talk about mailing it in…nice way to cover the game Chad! :-)

  23. Al in Houston September 8th, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    Why are we giving the ball to Scott “Fricken” Proctor with a tie game in the 9th Inning?? What happened to D Rob/Mo?? Joe is playing these games only to see who will make post season roster.

  24. Wave Your Hat September 8th, 2011 at 5:12 pm

    “The Yanks should adopt an organizational policy to never trade for or give any FA reliever (not named Mariano Rivera) more than a 1 year 5 million dollar contract.”

    You sure couldn’t say that back in the spring, could you? At least some of those folks who argued Soriano was a great deal ought to still be defending him, don’t you think? :;

  25. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:13 pm

    Sj might as well be posting here…he clearly doesn’t, think this team is any good . Also, in minny he said that Phil looked like he did early in 2010….so now he should be off the roster? That is beyond silly..he and aj will be long men. Logan off the roster? Please.

  26. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:14 pm

    No thanks on betances..not about to trust him in a big spot. Sj is a whiner

  27. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    “Another xtra inning loss. Not a lot of faith for the postseaso when they can’t win close games.”

    I don’t mean to yell but DO YOU REALIZE THEY’RE PLAYING ON FUMES RIGHT NOW????

    Erase these two games from your mind since the Yankees were forced into this one as a makeup and also played out the hurricane schedule last weekend. Okay? These are aberrations, not the norm.

    Think back to sweeping the Jays and taking the series from the Sux and…relax.

    It’s all good.

  28. RS September 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Hard to take these games seriously when your top 2 relievers are unavailable and the lineup is always missing regulars. Scott Proctor and Eduardo Nunez are not going to be in position to lose games for us in October, and the schedule’s not going to be half as brutal. At this point, the last month of baseball is looking to be a bit of a drag.

  29. Yank1 September 8th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    Wow, Chad got to LA in like 3 hours

  30. 4 NYY September 8th, 2011 at 5:18 pm

    # blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    They need to get Betances up and see how he looks in short relief……Soriano isn’t getting it done.
    # blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    They need to get Betances up and see how he looks in short relief……Soriano isn’t getting it done.
    ========================

    Totally agree, bringing back Proctor is certainly not the answer. Even though he was throwing hard today. FB is straight and they guessed right on off speed stuff and the walk sure didn’t help. Even Kontos deserves a shot after his good year. Soriano is still very hit and miss. New blood needs a shot at some short relief.

  31. TheStraw September 8th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    “Don’t expect the Yanks to take 2 of 3 from the Angels”

    Why not, we are 6-2 vs. them so far….

  32. EA September 8th, 2011 at 5:20 pm

    At this point, the last month of baseball is looking to be a bit of a drag.

    ——————

    Yup. Only 1 more off-day the rest of the season. Lots of travel for this group as well.

  33. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    “Why are we giving the ball to Scott “Fricken” Proctor with a tie game in the 9th Inning?? What happened to D Rob/Mo??”

    DRob pitched yesterday, Mo doesn’t pitch on the road in a tie game, going to play the Angels who are contending for the division, no days off since August 27th, played a doubleheader on the 28th.

    Tired tired team, Girardi is juggling a lot of balls.

    Look at yesterday’s position players and realize most of them won’t sniff the postseason. Write yesterday off.

    It’s going to be fine.

  34. disco stu September 8th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Is it me or does Soriano always look like he is in a bad mood when he is on the mound? I remember games last year when he was with TB where he was really animated after getting big outs and he seemed to feed off that type of energy.

    Since he has been a Yankee he looks a man who couldn’t care less that he is on the mound trying to help his team win a game.

    I really do wonder that after the reality of signing with the Yankees sunk in that maybe he realized he made a mistake. He went for the money, but in doing so he may feel like his career has taken a step backwards because he is no longer a closer … and as long as Mo decides to pitch and it coincides with him remaining a Yankee, he will never sniff the closer’s role.

    But the perception I feel is that this is a man who is getting no joy from being a Yankee and being part of a team that has a chance to go to the World Series.

  35. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Wave,

    I defended the Soriano signing…..I think I was wrong…….still could turn around but he just doesn’t look that good and certainly not.dominating…….he relies on location a LOT more than I thought he did…..

  36. rr212 September 8th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    I agree trisha, I was probably overreacting, but I was talking about the season as a whole and not just the last 2 games. Forgive my spelling/grammar. Typing from my phone.

  37. randy l. September 8th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    “Cervelli played really gutty today though. I don’t know if the Montero crowd would have wanted Montero taking those hits.”

    actually cervelli playing hard nosed baseball is the very reason that montero should be worked into the catching rotation . the hits cervelli took today sacrificing his body especially on the markakis play shows why it would be good to have three catchers ready and able to catch.

    since this was for all practical purposes an exhibition game, it would have been perfect to have had montero make his catching debut. he knows nova and would have had no trouble catching him.

  38. 4 NYY September 8th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    # blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    They need to get Betances up and see how he looks in short relief……Soriano isn’t getting it done.
    # blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    They need to get Betances up and see how he looks in short relief……Soriano isn’t getting it done.
    ========================

    Totally agree, bringing back Proctor is certainly not the answer. Even though he was throwing hard today. FB is straight and they guessed right on off speed stuff and the walk sure didn’t help. Even Kontos deserves a shot after his good year. Soriano is still very hit and miss. New blood needs a shot now and then at short relief.

  39. GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Yanls need to buy every player who’s having a good day today. Buy Jaspon Bay. He hit a first inning grand slam against the Braves.

    No!! Forget Bay. He just popped out to center.

    I know…Get Larry Jones from the braves. He’s 2-2 with a double and a homer.

    Forget him, too Flied out to center. He’s washed up.

  40. GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Betances has trouble finding the strike zone. He’ll be up, but don’t expect to see him any time soon on the mound.

  41. 4 NYY September 8th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    # Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Trumbo looks like the real deal? Did you mean the real deer? *smug*

    .256 .295 .481 .776
    ==================================

    Hr’s and RBI’s are not bad at all for a rookie. Has awesome power.

    Wish our Mark was hitting .256 *smug*

  42. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    So now we are going to put post season games in hands of kids? IMO you just have to send Soriano out there and hope for the best ….we have no choice

  43. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    You missed the joke.

  44. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    Joba had no experience really in 2007…..and dominated until he was attacked by midges

  45. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Hughes had no experience in 07 and dominated.

  46. Yogi Mantle September 8th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    The Yankees were playing down to their competition today. They were flat. They had no desire to be there playing that game.

    The O’s seem to show up late in the season, acting as if a win is a WS win. They are a pathetic team, lead by a pathetic manager. The Yankees gave these last two games away. Yesterday was somewhat understandable, today was a give away.

  47. 4 NYY September 8th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    # TheStraw September 8th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    “Don’t expect the Yanks to take 2 of 3 from the Angels”

    Why not, we are 6-2 vs. them so far….

    ==============================

    Just a gut feeling, Angels are trying to catch Texas.

  48. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Id like to.see if Betances could find the zone in shorter spurts …….I don’t see the harm in finding out….he’s on the 40 man and Id rather watch him pitch than Proctor.

  49. PacoDooley September 8th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Can someone tell me why Proctor is being used in important situations?

  50. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Hughes had started….and he was not a short reliever.

  51. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    Can someone tell me why Proctor is being used in important situations?

    All the other relivers were used. Next 2 in line were Kontos and Brackman.

  52. JM September 8th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    I agree with Betances. Maybe he will be bad….But they already know Proctor is bad and can’t get the job done. Why not try something new?

  53. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Hughes had started….and he was not a short reliever.

    He came in relief of Clemens in the 07 playoffs with no experience.

  54. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    David Price had no.experience in 2008 and was a starter ……he helped them make the WS as a reliever

  55. EA September 8th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Veras and Ohlendorf made the postseason roster in 07, despite not being up before September.

    Bruney made the postseason roster in 06 despite only coming up in late August

  56. PacoDooley September 8th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Here is a major positive from the Soriano signing – perhaps the owners and upper management will now leave Cashman alone to do his job, and they will understand that he knows more about building a team than they are…

  57. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    I know Betances has the stuff to be a lightning in a bottle reliever……why not find out

  58. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    big ticket relievers are almost guaranteed to fail.

  59. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    That is what you call being a short reliever? Yeah I remember that game …he came in early and held the fort, but he was not a short man

  60. Macfan September 8th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    “TheStraw September 8th, 2011 at 5:05 pm

    I would love to win the division, but it’s not paramount…..making the playoffs is. If the Yankees merely go 10-10 in the last 20 games, the Rays need to win all 20 to knock them out of the playoffs.”

    ++++++++++++++

    Thing is the Yankees never seem to perform well as a Wild Card team in the playoffs.

    We all have memories of how those ended in 1995, 2005, 2007, 2010.

    3 first round exits and the only thing that prevented us from another one in 2010 was that we faced the Twins in the first round, whom we always seem to beat.

    Remember how Texas looked invincible in the next series.

  61. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    That is what you call being a short reliever? Yeah I remember that game …he came in early and held the fort, but he was not a short man

    Who cares how much he pitched Betsy? He came in relief in game 1 for 2 innings and like 3 innings in game 3. Point is, he was a young, inexperienced pitcher who had not come out of the pen before and managed to do it just fine for a playoff team. This evidence is sufficient enough to stump anyone saying that the Yankees ‘have no choice’ but to rely on bad pitching. They can try Betances out of the pen. They’ve done it before with success.

  62. Macfan September 8th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Scott Proctor has no business costing the Yankees games at this point of the season. Don’t even know why we are talking about him, he should have been one of those guys in the pen that you never hear from because he is rotting away down there.

    My biggest fear is Joe will keep using this guy when Proctor reeks.

  63. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    The thing about Soriano is that his stuff just isn’t as dominant as I thought …..I really hadn’t seen him pitch that much before this year and he doesn’t have as much margin for error stuff wise as I thought ……he needs plus command to succeed as his secondary stuff isn’t that great and he’s 92-93 without a ton of movement ……that little cutter or.slider he’s throwing is garbage.

  64. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Ok, I am not goin to argue with you….we will have to agree to disagree

  65. Macfan September 8th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Oh b.t.w. folks after these two brutal losses. Our next 4 games

    vs Weaver
    vs Harden
    vs Santana
    vs Hernandez

    and the Angels are thirsty for wins being 2.5 games back of Texas, the Angels need to win the division to make the playoffs so they will be desperate.

  66. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Hughes did not come in in tie games or where we were leading but you want to stick a kid with not nearly the same amount of experience in big games and expect him to come up big …I do no even think Soriano should lose his job anway

  67. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Yea ….pretty big stretch….division may be decided this week

  68. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Hughes did not come in in tie games or where we were leading but you want to stick a kid with not nearly the same amount of experience in big games and expect him to come up big

    Hughes pitched while the yankees were leading in game 3. And what the f, the Yankees have Robertson and Mo and Wade to pitch in the high leverage spots? Betances can get experience now in september. Joba chamberlain managed to do it fine.

  69. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    If Joba hadn’t got hurt Soriano would be throwing in an undefined reliever role…..they miss Jobber bad.

  70. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    No one wants to stick a kid in a big spot and expect him to come up big. People want to try Betances in relief in september and see if he can have a role in the postseason.

  71. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Relievers can get

  72. Macfan September 8th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    “blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:51 pm
    Yea ….pretty big stretch….division may be decided this week”

    ________________

    Not only that but the Red Sox will play the Orioles 7 of their final 10 games (4 at Fenway, 3 at Camden Yards)

    Yikes. Yankees have a Wild Card look all over them with Joe bound to rest guys irrespective of what is unfolding.

  73. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    So I have no idea what you want….for betances to pitch the sixth innin? Wade over Soriano? Right….

  74. blake September 8th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Relievers can often get by with spotty command if they have swing and.miss stuff……because they don’t compound that risk times 7 innings.

  75. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    Then I assume you agree with me that Hughes or aj should be long men?

  76. EA September 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Noesi should get innings over Soriano, Wade, Logan, or Ayala

    Wade has been solid though, so he can still get medium/medium-high leverage IPs

  77. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    Noesi hasn’t been better than Wade

  78. JM September 8th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    I’d actually rather try Kontos than keep throwing Proctor out there…

  79. 4 train September 8th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    the betsy chic rapping her bs again. lol lol lol lol lol. the only thing most of us agree with on is how often we disagree with you and you still don’t get the message betsy chic. aren’t you and mommy and daddy betsy chic going on some summer vacation. now go and don’t forget your bug eye glasses

  80. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Blake…they still have to make it through one inning ….so having iffy control is not a good thing

  81. Yank1 September 8th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    Less Logan and less Soriano

    Might as well see what Kontos, Betances, Brackman, etc. have

    Better than giving those innings to the likes of Ayala Proctor and Laffey

  82. champ809 September 8th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    I think before we throw Bettances out their in a relief role we should use guys like Brackman and Kontos in those roles since they’ve been used their all season or in the case of Brackman the last 2 months and have been for the most part lights out coming out of the ‘pen for 1 inning stints.

    My beef is that DRob should have been available to pitch the 8th today…he threw 11 pitches yesterday and K’ed the side…I would have prefered him in the 8th and Soriano in the 9th if needed as it would have given him a lil taste of closing….and I think his stuff actually plays up more in the 9th than the 8th with hitters being extra aggressive those last 3 outs

  83. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    so having iffy control is not a good thing

    Robertson has iffy control. You can have iffy control as a reliever and still be good. Jose Valverde has incredibly iffy control and he is perfect in save situations. Betances could be huge in the pen if they tried him out there.

  84. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Champ,

    D-rob pitched the day before yesterday as well.

  85. tomingeorgia September 8th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Carp all you want, but that play from Granderson to Cano to Cervelli was one of the greatest, purest plays I’ve ever seen.

  86. Bayareanyy September 8th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    I would agree with Blake and Macfan. This is going to be a telling week.

    My concern with the team not with errors in the last two games but the overall performance in either 1 run games or extra innings. The Yankees are 18-20 in 1 run games and 4-9 in extras. Only Texas among all of the potential playofff teams in all of MLB has a worse record.

    You would also expect extra inning performance to be near 50% for most good teams.

    Combined with their relatively few walk-off wins, it seems like they will need to win post season games in the same way as they have during the season- by large margins.

    That does worry me as playoff games typically have a few key games that are close and have a meaningful impact on a series.

    Let’s hope the Yankees build some confidence in the next few weeks to feel like they can win the really close ones.

  87. Captain Clutch September 8th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    The loss is on the offense for falling asleep and not Proctor. I can’t blame Girardi for leaving Proctor in there because he isn’t Torre and he isn’t going to blow out Robertson and Mo. The back of the bullpen has pitched a lot recently because so many games have been so close. The offense has to get back to tacking on runs.

  88. MTU September 8th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Blake-

    With respect to Soriano.

    We paid for a lights out reliever for the back end of our pen.

    That’s not what he’s turned out to be.

    I wanted him too because that’s what I thought he would provide.

    The logic of having a shutdown BP to shorten games seemed to make sense after we whiffed on Lee.

    The more I watch him the less I like him.

    He’s too damn inconsistent right now.

  89. 108 stitches September 8th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Not a complete loss. The Jays will feast on Andrew Miller and the rest of Sux pitching resulting in a loss and the magic number reduced to 18.
    The Yankees need to gather themselves. The L.A. Angels can still win the AL West and won’t be pushovers for the 3 games.

  90. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    One run game stats are flukey. Too much luck involved.

  91. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    So who besides betances would you send out for the seventh….though it is moot anyway since the yankees won’t give up on him .”..not that I think They should

  92. m September 8th, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    Just an icky game to end an icky series.

    The Fighting Showalters irritate me because they don’t seem to play with this kind of determination against other teams. The Orioles seemed to be on the verge of taking each game, so we should be glad we only lost this one.

    Hopefully the Fighting Bluejays can pull off a win today.

  93. Captain Clutch September 8th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Soriano’s arm needs a short vacation before his arm is totally useless. Since the Sox series he has been hit extremely hard. He is lucky that Gardner saved his butt 2 times in those games. At this point I would trust Wade over him in the 7th inning. Also enough of Logan already.

  94. Captain Clutch September 8th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    I didn’t see the post game did Girardi say what was wrong with Swisher’s arm?

  95. GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    m September 8th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
    Just an icky game to end an icky series.

    The Fighting Showalters irritate me because they don’t seem to play with this kind of determination against other teams. The Orioles seemed to be on the verge of taking each game, so we should be glad we only lost this one.

    Hopefully the Fighting Bluejays can pull off a win today.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Is “icky” an acceptable word for a game summary?

    NYYs got beat by a hotter bullpen with nothing yo lose in the last two days. The still have at least a game and a half lead and 2 in the loss column. and a 4-2 record over the Angels this year. Way too early for the faint of heart to worry.

  96. Villa Nova-Ya September 8th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    m -

    It does not surprise me at all that the O’s get extra motivated now. First, there’s Showalter. He definitely has a grudge, and the O’s have played terribly against the Yankees for the better part of the season. So, I am sure he told his team that these games were for pride.

    Secondly, you have a handful of players on the O’s who are playing for the ML lives so to speak. They did this same thing last season, when Showalter first took over. In the last month of the season, when Showalter had taken over, the Orioles were hailed as a much changed organization.

    Also, remember that the Orioles did do well against other teams jsut before they faced the Yankees that hurricane weekend – they were coming in on a hot streak.

    Clearly, at least to me, Showalter has told his players that he is keeping score as far as which players he will keep going into next season.

    (BTW, I really dislike Showalter)

  97. m September 8th, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    Icky is acceptable and entirely appropriate.

    Not melodramatic at all.

    And I completely forgot that we lost yesterday. That comeback by the Jays made me feel like a winner. :oops:

  98. Villa Nova-Ya September 8th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Girardi said Swish was fine, but I didn’t like the way he said it. He more or less brushed off the question. I think they don’t know, but that’s just my take.

  99. champ809 September 8th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    Jerkface

    I know he threw 15 pitches 9 for strikes and was outta there…easy inning.

    My point is today’s game was setup for the win and I think Joe has got to manage today’s game and worry about tomorrow tomorrow.

    If DRob locks down the 8th and Sori the 9th then we head to Cali up 3 full games on the Sux with 20 togo and If DRob’s not available tomorrow then go to somebody else.

    I think Joe’s plan was to use Robertson for the 9th but to me that’s not clear thinking. Robertson has owned the 8th this year and has been the best 8th inning guy in the game…the 8th is his.

    Soriano got his $ because he was the best closer in the AL last season and is clearly more comfortable in the 9th….on days that Mo is not available I would make Soriano the closer for that day. In this scenario everybody is being used in a fashion that gives them the best chance to be the best that they are.

    God forbid it were to happen but if we lost Mo right now for the rest of the year is there any doubt that Soriano would become the closer with D Rob staying right where he is in the 8th?

  100. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:29 pm

    Girardi has a no 3 days in a row rule for relievers…..thus no Drob.

    Im not saying that Betances is a guarantee or anything…….Id just like to see if 95 turns to 98 and how that plus curveball plays for one inning. Low risk/ potentially high reward to find out.

  101. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    “God forbid it were to happen but if we lost Mo right now for the rest of the year is there any doubt that Soriano would become the closer with D Rob staying right where he is in the 8th?”

    Nah if Mo went down then Robertson is the closer…..heaven forbid

  102. GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 6:31 pm

    AHH!! m, You’re always a winner.

  103. m September 8th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    The rainouts, close games, and wins (yay!) mean that the fat part of our bullpen has been used a lot.

    Can’t run them ragged now when there are bigger prizes down the road.

  104. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:32 pm

    Kevin Gregg has terrible command.

  105. Villa Nova-Ya September 8th, 2011 at 6:34 pm

    champ809,

    I know you directed this at Jerkface, but in teh postgame, Girardi said he was not going to DRob at all today because of the number of pitches and his recent appearances.

    Frankly, I think DRob has done a more reliable job than Soriano.

    But who really knows if coming in for the save would help Soriano. He really has done well sicne ocming back from teh DL. He’s run into a tough stretch, but he said he was okay with whatever Joe said he’d do.

    DRob has really made himself quite indispensable this season. I’d trust him before anyone else other than Mo to close out a game right now.

    But I do see some logic in “throwing a bone” to Soriano, at least every now and then.

  106. m September 8th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    haha, GB7.

    It’s called the “Silver Lining Syndrome”.

    Our bullpen failed and their’s didn’t. They gotta clean up the defense, too.

  107. champ809 September 8th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    In my mind Bettances and Banuelos should be shut down til next season. Maybe some side work with Rothschild on mechanics and just traveling with the team and soaking up the big league big time atmosphere during this playoff run.

    Both have had very successful seasons and accomplished the teams internal goals of reaching AAA better healthy pitchers.

    Kontos and Brackman however I would like to see get some work in particularly Brackman to continue to build on his improved mechanics and success over that last 2 months. Obviously in the thick of a pennant race you need to pick your spots but any games that get out of hand either way I’d like to see both guys get some game action.

  108. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:35 pm

    Joelsherman1 4 hours Heard Dellin Betances will definitely join #Yankees in Anaheim. Not sure to pitch in MLB this yr, but #Yankees want him exposed to MLB life

    Should be to pitch.

  109. GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    Maybe so, but 4 strikeouts and a walk in 1.1 innings is pretty good.

  110. Frozen Rope September 8th, 2011 at 6:36 pm

    trisha – true pinstriped blue September 8th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
    “Can’t believe andino the scrub beats us”

    Guess he’s not the scrub you thought he was.

    ============

    no, he is. nice try on trying to troll. i see enough oriole games living here to know.

  111. Irreverent Discourse September 8th, 2011 at 6:38 pm

    Any player can have a good week/month. Scrub or not.

  112. champ809 September 8th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    Blake

    please tell me that your smart enough to realize that if Mo went down today the guy on the roster making closer $ with close to 100 career saves who was the most dominant closer in the game last season would get the nod over the kid with 1 career save for a team 3 weeks away from the postseason with designs on winning a championship.

    Fans be damned! We could all reasonably know that the 1st crack would go to Sori so why then on days that Mo’s unavailable and Sori is is he not the designated closer that day?

  113. GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    m September 8th, 2011 at 6:35 pm
    haha, GB7.

    It’s called the “Silver Lining Syndrome”.

    Our bullpen failed and their’s didn’t. They gotta clean up the defense, too.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    Real only place the defense is bad is with the pitching staff and especially the utility players. The catching needs work, too.

    I don’t understand all of the belly-aching because of one or two games. I’ve seen worse. It’s a game and the only time for “worry” or “concern” is being down two games with one to play.

  114. Villa Nova-Ya September 8th, 2011 at 6:40 pm

    blake -

    Girardi said he would have brought “the kids” in next. So, if Betances comes up, chances are he could get into a game whether they plan to or not right now.

  115. Villa Nova-Ya September 8th, 2011 at 6:42 pm

    Scrub or not, Andino seems to turn it on playing NY, whatever position Showalter puts him in.

    As I said before, there are guys in Baltimore playing for their ML lives, and Andino is one of them.

  116. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:44 pm

    And his strikeouts –including three in three batters Wednesday –are just spectacular. He has fanned 89 in 58 1/3 innings, which translates to 13.73 per nine innings. That would be the 10th-highest total for anyone who has ever pitched that many innings in a season. But the only pitcher to ever strike out this many per nine inning and have a lower ERA than Robertson’s current 1.23 was Eric Gagne in his dynamic 2003 season when he averaged 14.98 strikeouts per nine innings with a 1.20 ERA.

    From Sherman on Robertson……and Drob isn’t hyped up like crazy on roids like Gagne.

    3UP nyp.st/pGBdmx Robertson’s strikeout skills, can Hughes still be an effective reliever, Burnett a wild man #Yankees 4 hours ago via TweetDeck

  117. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:46 pm

    Champ…..I really don’t think so. That same guy you’re talking about is pitching the 7th when he was signed to set up. Robertson is better and they know it…..and they are using him as such.

  118. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:47 pm

    Robertson has more postseason experience than Soriano does.

  119. blake September 8th, 2011 at 6:48 pm

    “Fans be damned! We could all reasonably know that the 1st crack would go to Sori so why then on days that Mo’s unavailable and Sori is is he not the designated closer that day?”

    I think you answered your own question….

  120. m September 8th, 2011 at 6:49 pm

    I think Robertson is the logical choice. Soriano’s not pitching well-D. Rob is. Robertson’s also higher on the depth chart. They might be trying to piss off Soriano in an attempt to get him to opt out. :P

  121. Captain Clutch September 8th, 2011 at 6:54 pm

    Girardi said Swish was fine, but I didn’t like the way he said it. He more or less brushed off the question.
    ———-

    Thanks for the update. I remember last year or the year before Swisher had a sore arm and they said it’s from throwing a lot. Hopefully it’s just sore and it goes away quickly. The Showalter’s were running on the Yanks this whole series like the Yankees outfielders have no arms.

  122. Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 6:57 pm

    If Girardi pitches D-rob today, we lose him for the anaheim series most likely. I’m fine with not pitching him in a tie game in the 10th.

  123. Betsy September 8th, 2011 at 7:00 pm

    Blake…what did Joel say about Hughes and aj? I can not read that on the I pad … Thanks. Either way I do not see either playing much of a role in the pen…

  124. Villa Nova-Ya September 8th, 2011 at 7:01 pm

    jerkface -

    I agree, but it takes looking forward, doesn’t it?

  125. blake September 8th, 2011 at 7:05 pm

    Betsy,

    Basically he wonders if Hughes can make an impact as a reliever in the playoffs…….and he states the obvious that AJ throws a lot of wild pitches

  126. 4 NYY September 9th, 2011 at 1:20 am

    # Jerkface September 8th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    You missed the joke.
    ===============================

    Nah, we never miss you when you’re not here !

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