Pregame notes: The Twitter edition
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Sep 08, 2011 
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I remember getting an email address in high school only to have my best friend tell me it was a ridiculous thing to have because electronic mail was a fade that would quickly go away. At the time, I actually thought he might be right.
Now here I am, in an airplane, on the Internet, checking my email and Twitter for Yankees updates that come second-by-second.
This Internet thing is really taking off.
Anyway, these are some of the things going on down in Baltimore, from our various friends who are in town for the day covering the makeup game.
• The Yankees have scheduled one more doubleheader. They will play two games against the Rays on Sept. 21.
• Still no rotation update cutting from six to five. I know, I’m surprised too.
• Alex Rodriguez is just getting a half day today. Joe Girardi said playing A-Rod at DH has nothing to do with the thumb injury.
• Girardi didn’t close the door on Dellin Betances getting a call-up. Girardi said he’s “just waiting on (Brian Cashman) and the decision that he makes.”
• Girardi is optimistic that the Yankees are going to play today. The forecast isn’t great down there.
• If you’re looking for Twitter updates during the game, Peter Botte has the list of folks down there: Follow Botte, Mark Hale, Kimberley Martin, Ian Begley and Brendan Prunty. If you’re regularly getting Yankees news on Twitter, you’re probably following those five anyway.
I just looked at weather.com and it’s not supposed to rain in baltimore until after 4pm. From now until then it’s a 10% chance.
That’s good….They need to get this game in and on time since they have to play out west tomorrow. This next couple of weeks is really going to be brutal.
sheesh, these next couple of weeks ARE really going to be brutal….
Girardi is going to have to continue to give guys days off and stick with them. I thought he was doing that yesterday and then all of a sudden he brought them into the game. Robertson and Mo’s workload will also have to be watched very carefully since they have been playing a ton of close games. They need to win a blow out game very soon.
There’s 21 games left in the regular season. What is the point of reducing the rotation from 6 to 5 at this point? None, other than the disruption and disturbance it will cause to the guy getting dropped. They’ll only need 4 in the playoffs; they can drop two then.
In this case, I think Binder Joe is doing the right thing.
Have a good flight Chad
Yea Id keep the 6 man until the last week or so of the season……the schedule is just too crazy and they need to skip Colon at some point.
Welcome back Chad.
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It won’t make a difference in Burnett’s value if he’s left off the postseason roster. The Yankees will still need to eat considerable money when peddling him this winter.
It would be ridiculous if Burnett were on the roster and any of Noesi, Wade, or Ayala were left off.
RiverAveBlues Sandmen, plural (via @Flipflopflying) http://flipflopflyball.tumblr......men-plural
upstate kate September 8th, 2011 at 10:15 am
from a Jack Curry column (Erin’s link)
The Yankees could have recalled Montero earlier this season, but they hesitated because of Jorge Posada. After the July 31 non-waiver trading deadline, the Yankees had internal conversations about summoning Montero. But, if the Yankees promoted Montero, Posada, the proud veteran who is in the final year of his contract, would have likely been the player who was sacrificed. Instead of tampering with Posada, the Yankees waited until the rosters expanded on Sept. 1. Since Montero’s arrival, Posada has had one at-bat.
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To me, this feels like emotional blackmail. It also precludes another possibility that I, as a fan, am supposed to consider unthinkable I guess: getting rid of Cervelli.
The folks saying Montero didn’t “know the staff” aren’t using their heads. If he had come up earlier, he’d have learned the staff well enough by now. Of course he doesn’t know it NOW, because they brought him up way late.
I think either/or regarding Posada/Montero is weak. For one thing, I don’t see it as some great triumph that they merely delayed phasing Posada out. They could actually be taking advantage of BOTH their bats, if they had played this right.
God forbid we’d have had Montero acquainted with the staff so he could BUC and DH, and still had Posada’s lefty swing, especially in Yankee Stadium, in the mix IN THE SAME LINEUP during some playoff games….what happens if Martin gets hurt, or we have a 15-inning game or so and Martin is gassed for the next one?
Also, what’s the option if he goes down during a game and they need to replace him behind the plate and we’re in need of runs? We, put in Cervelli because Montero doesn’t “know” the staff and is green…..Whose fault is that??
Had they brought up Montero earlier, expressly to get a handle on the staff and some comfort behind the plate, they wouldn’t be so handcuffed with the DH spot and they’d have a BUC/Emergency catcher with a much greater ability to impact a game offensively than even their starter can……
What is more likely is, they were trying to deal Montero, couldn’t get a deal they liked, and once the deadline passed and rosters expanded, they finally delivered him…THAT’S what really happened; they weren’t comfortable with his catching all along, and failed to trade him…now he’s here, so of course, they’re going to take advantage of his bat…
So pardon me if I don’t laud their “wisdom” in bringing along Montero, whom they tried to trade once, TWICE, and surely a THIRD time….
With all these games in a row, 6-man makes sense.
Bring up, Dealin’ Dellin, Cash!
Looking like Bryan Mitchell and SI Yankees could finally start their playoff series vs. the Cyclones in Brooklyn tonight. Go SI Yanks!
Weather Report From Paradise:
Friday: Sunny – High 84 – Low 61
Saturday: Sunny to Partly Cloudy – High 77 – Low 60
Sunday: Sunny – High 80 – Low 61
J Alfred,
Agree with every word…..but whatdaya gonna do.
Yea….why not bring up Betances…..he’s on the 40 man.
What’s the big deal? If Montero can actually catch, then he can catch one game in an emergency without making a fool of himself or a mess of the game.
If he needs to catch between now and then… he’s probably not ready.
WCYF,
Still waiting for some stats to backup Martin or Cervelli being good defensive catchers
blake September 8th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
J Alfred,
Agree with every word…..but whatdaya gonna do.
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yankfem, No. 50′s “fifth” day is tomorrow, so maybe we see him then.
I was hoping we’d see Brackman yesterday, but not sure when he last pitched. Maybe today…that would be something to look forward to…I haven’t seen him at all since Trenton, much less since he changed the positioning of his hand set. I am soooo rooting that this adjustment is lasting…wouldn’t it be fantastic if ABrack could be a viable later innings arm for us next season? Maybe also would push Joba back to the rotation, if ABrack could ‘replace’ him..
i cant stand sabermetrics…
…glad i got that off my chest
Joba can’t start because he might get hurt……oh wait
The Yanks haven’t had Montero catch in the majors because they prefer Martin and Cervelli there right now. What do people think, that the Yanks believe Montero is a better catcher than Cervelli but perversely refuse to catch Montero because (A) they “like” Cervelli, (B) they don’t want Montero to have a chance, or (C) they don’t want the team to be as good as possible?
Get serious. No one knows Montero’s catching abilities better than the Yanks. Give them a little credit.
Look for the simplest explanation. It’s usually the right one.
i cant stand sabermetrics?
?glad i got that off my chest
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What do you hate about them?
Since July 31st, the likelyhood that the Yanks would get any more offensive production with Montero in there than the Jones/Posada combination is pretty slim and that month was used to keep Montero catching instead of sitting half of the time.
Chad is the best! He always goes above and beyond for the Yankees fans/haters here.
I appreciate the hard work Chad!
triple,
mainly cause i dont understand them,
but anything that says granderson is one of the worst centerfielders cant be that accuarte
“i cant stand sabermetrics……glad i got that off my chest”
How do you feel about global warming?
Right now, Chad is about 35,000 feet above and 1,000 miles and beyond us.
Wave Your Hat September 8th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
“i cant stand sabermetrics……glad i got that off my chest”
How do you feel about global warming?
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i think there is a better chance of ManBearPig being real than ‘man made’ Global Warming,
please dont get this into a political page, Im a moderate conserveative and I kno NY is manly liberal, lets leave it at baseball
Since the beginning of the 2007 season, Cano has played in 779 games. The only two players to appear in more were Prince Fielder (783) and Adrian Gonzalez (782). And both are first basemen not enduring the rigors of the middle infield. I believe that durability is the most underappreciated tool in the game because none of the five traditional tools –hitting, hitting with power, fielding, throwing and baserunning –mean anything if you can’t get on the field. I remember when I covered the Yankees as a beat writer and Danny Tartabull used to mention all the time how special his numbers were if you pro-rated them over 162 games. He did it as a brag. But it merely underscored how unreliable Tartabull was in getting on the field. He lacked the passion and/or sturdiness to be on the field daily. This was the crux, by the way, of GM Brian Cashman’s reasoning on calling Cano, not Jose Reyes, the best player in New York during the second series of this year’s Subway Series. Yes, Reyes was in the midst –at the moment –of an MVP-type season. But Cashman thought the title of best player in New York should be about more than just one good half season, but a reflection of a larger body of work and Cano wins there because his excellence is expressed day after day, month after month, year after year. Of course, to underscore the point, Reyes has broken down in the second half while Cano has kept playing and playing. It is one of the keys to the Yankees’ long-term success: They have been blessed by having superb players who also have been among the games most durable such as Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriguez, Mark Teixeira, Jorge Posada, Johnny Damon, Bobby Abreu, Mariano Rivera and Andy Pettitte just to name several of the many key, sturdy players.
Joel Sherman @Joelsherman1 3UP nyp.st/oA3U5k buy tix and u r at mercy of folks who don’t care about u, Cano’s durability, Strasburg’s meaning to #Mets #Yankees 7 Sep via web
Triple Short of a Cycle September 8th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
WCYF, Still waiting for some stats to backup Martin or Cervelli being good defensive catchers.
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I answered you. Comparative stats with other catchers could not be less relevant. Different teams, different pitchers with differing abilities to hold runners close or not and differing pitch selections that may be more difficult to handle.
Case in point. AJ Burnett leas the league in wild pitches. There are scores of balls in the dirt has Martin blocks successfully. Burnett is also abysmal at holding runners close.
I also have my eyes and the opinions of professionals who played the game like Flash, Singleton and Paulie.
Bottom line, Martin is very good and Cervelli is adequate. And with that tandem the Yankees are in first place.
I-Phone typing – sorry for the typos.
blake, yankfem – I’m thrilled he’s here at all, but they missed an opportunity to prepare for a real contingency that may befall them…if it doesn’t happen, great…
…and wanted him available to get into the WS away games, if it comes to that….odds now aren’t good for that…
J Alfred,
I think they played if too safe as well…..however for the postseason….Martin was probably always going to catch every game anyway and Montero will still.have a chance to make an impact with his bat……so at least there is that.
Just kidding you, Doc Iac.
Wave Your Hat September 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Just kidding you, Doc Iac.
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haha no doubt
Gossip Break-
New Casa de A-Rod in Miami. I really like the integration of trees/plants into the building on the street side of the house. A signature look I can’t remember seeing before.
http://www.splashnewsonline.co.....iami-home/
the puzzling thing is that cervelli’s throwing is so bad and that the yankees don’t seem to be concerned about it.
i think a guy like ron washington ( or scoscia) is going to wait to expose the weakness until he really needs it and that’s in the post season .
i’m guessing that cervelli has developed a chronic sore arm that the yankees don’t want to advertise for obvious reasons.
if it was just a mechanical problem of throwing balls that tail towards right field that would be easy to fix.
i think girardi pairs him with sabathia because of sabathia being a lefty and theoretically being better at holding runners close. it at least minimizes the running threat.
Wave Your Hat September 8th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
The Yanks haven’t had Montero catch in the majors because they prefer Martin and Cervelli there right now. What do people think, that the Yanks believe Montero is a better catcher than Cervelli but perversely refuse to catch Montero because (A) they “like” Cervelli, (B) they don’t want Montero to have a chance, or (C) they don’t want the team to be as good as possible?
Get serious. No one knows Montero’s catching abilities better than the Yanks. Give them a little credit.
Look for the simplest explanation. It’s usually the right one.
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There’s another possibility: they made a mistake, or harbor a bias for Cervelli that may not be justified.
Basically, they’ve removed all likelihood that Montero can replace Martin if it comes to that in the postseason. That means no Montero bat in away games in the WS, if we get there, outside of a one-and-done PH appearance….that may never come the the surface – sure hope not – but if it does, that’s a significant bat you can’t use much at all…
WCYF,
Like what was pointed out before those announcers were touting Martin’s CS % when talking up his defense which in reality has been league average. Martin also has a boat load of errors.
At best he is average on defense but he is not above average and if you think cervelli is adequate I don’t know what to tell you.
Just curious what you thought of Posada’s ability behind the plate? They won with him being bad behind the plate so what does that prove?
blake September 8th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
J Alfred,
I think they played if too safe as well…..however for the postseason….Martin was probably always going to catch every game anyway and Montero will still.have a chance to make an impact with his bat……so at least there is that.
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Yea, good thing there’s the DH in the AL. I just think they didn’t prepare for certain contingencies that may actually rear their heads…but that’s what they did(n’t).
doc iac – Don’t confuse the methodology of saber-metrics with the shortcomings of UZR. Single season UZR is very inconsistent and should never be looked at on it’s own. The commonly accepted sample size for UZR to be relevant is 3 years worth of data.
how often, in the thick of a pennant race, will a team like the yankees, with such a demanding fanbase, try to incorporate a rookie catcher that’s still developing with a staff that’s been injured (hughes), coming back from the unknown (colon, garcia) or just plain stinks (aj)?
Joelsherman1 Column http://nyp.st/r7cvUh Robertson’s importance is growing for #Yankees now and in future
Prufrock, hoping to attend double-header on 9/21 and get to see some of the kids come out of the pen. Maybe Brack and/or Dealin’ gets an inning?
any chance someone in the Yankees line-up will test c. davis at 3rd by dropping
down a bunt or two today??
pat- link didn’t work for me
Robertson is one of my favorite yankees. From when he was in the minors, where he had a ridic no homers allowed streak, and to his shakey first few years. He is great.
“There’s another possibility: they made a mistake, or harbor a bias for Cervelli that may not be justified.”
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Wow! It’s really hard to believe the Yankees want Cervelli to play.
* Last (10) games – BA .357 – 10-28 with (3) HR and (7) RBI’s
* Last (30) days – BA .357
* Month of September – .429
* Post All-Star break – .360/.429/.580/1.009
Yanks need to get this win today……as they face Weaver, Haren,.Santana, and Felix the next 4 days. Counting today……a 4-3 road trip would be a good result…..anything better would be awesome
YankeesPR #Yankees will play 7:05 game vs. @RaysRepublic on 9/21 to make up 8/14 rainout, is now part of day-night doubleheader
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Rays Republic?? Ick. When did that start? This was what they came up with?
Triple Short of a Cycle September 8th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
Just curious what you thought of Posada’s ability behind the plate? They won with him being bad behind the plate so what does that prove?
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It proves that it doesn’t matter as much as you think it does.
Jerkface-he’s one of my favorites too.
I have nothing against Martin or Cervelli, but Girardi did say Montero would get a chance to catch. I was hoping today would be the day.
Triple – look at the recent Cervelli stats I posted above. Now what is more likely, that Cervelli’s defensive shortcomings behind the plate cost us games? Or that his offensive performance helped us win games?
The answer is obvious.
yankeefeminista September 8th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
Prufrock, hoping to attend double-header on 9/21 and get to see some of the kids come out of the pen. Maybe Brack and/or Dealin’ gets an inning?
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That would be the closest a fan could come to a guarantee of seeing at least one of them. I’ll be attending as many as I can now, especially since it’s looking like Posada may not be included on the postseason roster. For my money, I’d rather have his left-handed swing than another mediocre lefty specialist to complement Logan..and that looks like the last spot….
Time to eat some lunch.
GO YANKS
im back…apologies…
…i have a question for those who have written the likes of ‘alex doesnt need a dh day’ and its this: what else did alex say this morning when you talked to him?
and an observation: martin’s # of errors tells us almost nothing. how many games/innings has he caught vs. the others on the list?
Ys
Alex told me he needs a day where he doesn’t have to deal w/ pop ups
JF, me also. Have watched Robertson since minors and have complained out loud that he should have had a more prominent role sooner, especially considering his stuff and filthy splits. Yanks took their time getting him into high leverage and/or later inning situations on a consistent basis, but better late than never.
Yea D Rob is awesome.
Erin-
Was working for me but isn’t now. Either took down the pictures or put them behind a paywall I guess.
Erin September 8th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
YankeesPR #Yankees will play 7:05 game vs. @RaysRepublic on 9/21 to make up 8/14 rainout, is now part of day-night doubleheader
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Rays Republic?? Ick. When did that start? This was what they came up with?
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It’s better than what I would have called it….or the ballpark. Imagine if Fed Ex and bought partial naming rights to the park…Tampex Stadium?
ray’s republic is putrid, almost as bad as yankees universe.
i can understand a shoestring budget team who’s never won trying to imitate the red socks, but there is not now, never was and hopfully never will be any reason for the greatest team in baseball history to imitate them.
thanks, pat. Too bad. I want to see Casa de Alex!
Randy,
Chances are Cervelli isn’t going to play iin the playoffs, at least not in the first round.
GreenBeret7 September 8th, 2011 at 12:53 pm
It?s better than what I would have called it?.or the ballpark. Imagine if Fed Ex and bought partial naming rights to the park?Tampex Stadium?
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you’re right, maybe “Republic” isn’t too bad after all.
Rays Republic? (groan)… But I also wouldn’t be caught dead (or alive) in anything that says Yankees Universe on it. Just saying.
and of course the forecast on weather.com has now changed. Now there’s a 35-50% chance of thunderstorms until 5pm when there will be a 2 hour window of only 10% chance of rain. I’m sick of the rain.
The Devil Rays need to sell out to Disney World and move their team to that park. Of course, they’l be known as a real Mickey Mouse organization, then…..just like the old days.
Erin
A quick search and I found a gossip blog that published the pics before they were taken down.
Try this link
http://news.blogmix.us/1439/al.....iami-home/
Nice article by Sherman, about David Robertson.
Back in 2009, when Pete still covered the Yankees, he predicted that Robertson would develop into a real star. He was right on the mark.
posada threw runners out at a 28% rate for his career. and the only reason it was under 30% was his last few years when he was approaching 40.
it’s a myth that posada was a bad catcher.
it s not a myth that cervelli for whatever reason can’t throw for crap the past two years.
cervelli really needs to fix the throwing problems.
he will throw away a long mlb career as a back up catcher for a multitude of teams if he keeps throwing out runners in the 11-12% range.
pat-thank you!! Love it. I think I actually like that house better than St. Jetersberg.
Game Post up
enjoy the game everyone!
Just finished reading The Last Boy. The book is a heartbreaker. I had such a mix of emotions while reading it. I felt a lot of resentment toward Leavy because at times I felt she was going out of her way to expose all the negatives she could find about the Mick. I didn’t see the need for it. I also found stretches of it extremely boring. Why she needed to track down minutiae about certain home runs, did they actually go such and such a distance? Calling in sabermatricians, people who lived in the area, searching years of records to find a person who supposedly found the ball in such and such a place when he didn’t actually find it there at all. Who really cares? But by the end of the book (extremely long, by the way) I saw the whole thing come full circle. And I cried – for who he was, who he was forced to be by his father, who he never became because of his own stubbornness – but mostly for who he is, one of the greatest players to ever play the game and gone much too soon.
“Chances are Cervelli isn’t going to play iin the playoffs, at least not in the first round.”
crawdaddy-
i agree and hope cervelli never gets a inning of playoff action.
… and you got me thinking. i just took out the spare tire from my car because chances are i won’t need it for the playoffs either.
think of the gas i’ll be saving by getting rid of that extra dead weight