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Postgame notes: “Command is the big issue”

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CC Sabathia matched season-highs tonight by allowing 10 hits and four walks. He also matched a season-low by pitching only 5.2 innings.

Since the Yankees went to a six-man rotation at the end of July, Sabathia has made nine starts, seven of them on extra rest. He’s allowed 10 hits in five of those extra-rest starts, something he’d done only once in 23 starts before the six-man rotation became a somewhat permanent situation.

“I don’t think (extra rest has been the problem),” Sabathia said. “I’ve felt great. My arm feels good. My body feels good. It’s just been not executing pitches when I need to. The Lind at-bat, not being able to make the pitch and get out of the inning… Command is the big issue, but my stuff has been there. That’s what’s so frustrating.”

The Lind at-bat was in the fifth, when the Yankees had given Sabathia a 3-1 lead. Sabathia allowed a pair of two-out walks, then he faced Adam Lind with the bases loaded. Lind doubled in all three runs, and when Sabathia loaded the bases again in the sixth, Luis Ayala had to bail him out.

“I still felt good about him getting Lind out,” Girardi said. “Lind hurt us tonight with a couple doubles and a single. I still felt good about it. I thought his stuff was okay, and I thought he’d get him out. He didn’t… I still really believe in (Sabathia). I think he’s going to be great for us and he’ll continue to be great for us. Tonight, he struggled a little bit, but he gave us a chance to win that game. We weren’t able to score after we tied it up 4-4. I still think CC’s going to run off some good starts, I really do.”

Could extra rest be an issue? Sabathia notoriously thrives with less rest rather than more.

“It could,” Girardi said. “He’s going to be on regular rest his next turn, so we’ll get a good chance to see that. That’s just been the way it’s been for us, but we’ll get him on regular rest.”

Actually, to line up Sabathia for Game 1 of the division series, the Yankees might have to pitch him on short rest Sunday against Boston.

“The past couple of starts it’s just been tough, throwing a lot of pitches in a short amount of time. Just frustrating,”

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• After batting practice, Alex Rodriguez explained that he spent the day learning to hit with a ring of tape separating his uninjured top hand and his sore left thumb. He believes he’s allowed to use the taped bat during the game. “We’ve never tried it, but Kevin had me split my hands, and after that it felt really good because I didn’t put any pressure on the thumb,” Rodriguez said. “If it goes well — you know how us baseball players are, we just won’t change — it will definitely alleviate any pain on my thumb, because the only pressure I have is when I press down on the point of contact.”

• Rodriguez took a ton of swings today. He did tee and toss with Kevin Long before batting practice, then he took eight rounds of regular BP, hitting with two different groups.

• Girardi said after the game that he still plans to play Rodriguez tomorrow. Everything he saw in BP makes him think Rodriguez will be ready. “I’d like to pencil his name in there,” Girardi said. “I’d actually like to use a pen.”

• Sabathia’s short-and-sweet explanation of what went wrong on the pitch to Lind: “Just got a ball out over the plate. He put a good swing on it. He had been putting good swings all night and got a pitch he could handle.”

• Sabathia walked Jose Bautista three times. “I didn’t want Bautista to beat me,” Sabathia said. “He’s one of the better hitters in the league, and you never want that guy to beat you in the lineup.”

• The Yankees have lost six of their past nine games, five of their past six loses have come in one-run games.

• Three days ago, Cory Wade had not lost a game since joining the Yankees. He’s now allowed two straight walkoffs, giving up a walkoff homer on Wednesday and Jose Molina’s walkoff single tonight.

• Boone Logan took the loss after allowing a sharp leadoff double in that decisive ninth.

• Until the ninth, the bullpen had been a bright spot for the Yankees. Ayala got Sabathia out of a bases-loaded jam in the sixth, Rafael Soriano struck out the side in the seventh and Dave Robertson left the bases loaded in the eighth.

• Eric Chavez hit his second home run of the season… Nick Swisher twice tied the game with two-out hits… Derek Jeter’s 13-game hitting streak ended.

• Brett Gardner stole two bases tonight. He’s been successful in 40 of his past 47 attempts.

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49 Responses to “Postgame notes: “Command is the big issue””

  1. Nilsson September 17th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    REPOST (because some of the comments about Teixeira are confounding):

    Trying to tie PED testing to Teixeira’s batting decline the last few years doesn’t make sense.

    I think what makes more logic is what others have been saying. Tex’s hitting mechanics from the left side has changed since he joined NY. If you look at his hitting spray charts since 2009, he has become an exclusive pull hitter against RHP.

    The lure of the short porch may be a contributing factor.

    Tex’s problem is mechanical and is correctable. He’s 31 years old and healthy. Let’s see what he does in the offseason to correct it before we sign off on his baseball obituary.

  2. P September 17th, 2011 at 12:33 am

    P September 17th, 2011 at 12:24 am

    How people weren’t concerned about Tex earlier is beyond me.. people would say to me that I didn’t know what I was talking about and get mad at me when I mentioned my concern for Tex. Jerkface even called me an idiot when ‘id say Tex is terrible.. and he said Tex is playing great !

    I had very high hopes for Tex.. he”s to nlame himself ! with that said he does have 37HR & 100+ RBI which aint to shabby at all. its great but 75% of the time he just stinks !!

  3. P September 17th, 2011 at 12:33 am

    who mentioned Tex on PEDs?

  4. P September 17th, 2011 at 12:35 am

    “Tex has lost some bat speed, we need to work on getting that back” –K. Long

  5. Nilsson September 17th, 2011 at 12:39 am

    P September 17th, 2011 at 12:35 am
    “Tex has lost some bat speed, we need to work on getting that back” –K. Long

    ———————————————————-

    That’s K-Long speak for reducing the massive upper cut in his left handed swing.

  6. stuart a September 17th, 2011 at 12:50 am

    tex’s decline has been huge. the guy is 31 and thinks he is a 35 yr old andruw jones. back leg all or nothing sit dead red…

    that is a fine approach if you hit 8th in the order.

    MOVE HIM DOWN……….

  7. stuart a September 17th, 2011 at 12:51 am

    granderson hitting 260 or so is the norm. same with swisher. tex should hit 280 in his sleep.

    the guy is hitting under 230 lefty………………….

  8. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:10 am

    If Girardi “pencils in” Alex batting 4th, then we can officially declare Girardi a dreamer. He continues to put guys in batting positions that they haven’t earned in months…(some even a year or more). Tex batting third is assinine. He bats only for power and not average. Duh.

  9. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:19 am

    I’d love to see the Yanks actually go after a guy who hits for average. Look at the team’s averages…now compare them to Boston’s…

    We can’t string together hits. Power rocks, but boy, do we need some consistency. Boston’s first four are all hitting over .300. The Yanks? Cano at .306 right now. Tex is .244 FYI.

    We aren’t going to have the knock-out starting pitching (esp with CC doesn’t get his command back), so if we aren’t hitting either, the playoffs will be mighty short.

  10. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:20 am

    * with = if

  11. UnKnown September 17th, 2011 at 1:25 am

    We’re Fine. Go a very pedestrian 6-7 the final 13 games and they win the division with 96 wins. Boston would have to go 9-3 their last 12 to win 96 and snatch the division from our grabs.

    Not going to happen. Boston will lose more than 3 games. And the Yankees will win a minimum of 6. Get your goggles ready to pop some champagne as returning AL EAST CHAMPS.

    I know its fun to panic and freak out, but let’s all try and take a deep breath here and chill out a bit. Plenty of time to squeeze the stress balls in October.

  12. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 1:27 am

    What does this all matter when one considers the team the Phillies have. You think anyone is beating Halladay, Lee, Hamels and Worley? I seriously doubt it.

    Halladay: 18-5 (2.34)
    Lee: 16-7 (2.38)
    Hamels: 14-8 (2.71)
    Worley: 11-2 (2.85)

    In Tom Verduci’s article today he makes these astounding points; just for those who doubt that pitching is really what matters and that the Phillies have it.

    “Philadelphia’s winning percentage in 2011 when it scores more than two runs is .817 (85-19).”

    “The Phillies scored a total of five runs yesterday in a doubleheader, and won both games.”

  13. Ghostwriter September 17th, 2011 at 1:31 am

    Nilsson September 17th, 2011 at 12:27 am

    REPOST (because some of the comments about Teixeira are confounding):

    Trying to tie PED testing to Teixeira’s batting decline the last few years doesn’t make sense.

    I think what makes more logic is what others have been saying. Tex’s hitting mechanics from the left side has changed since he joined NY. If you look at his hitting spray charts since 2009, he has become an exclusive pull hitter against RHP.

    The lure of the short porch may be a contributing factor.

    Tex’s problem is mechanical and is correctable. He’s 31 years old and healthy. Let’s see what he does in the offseason to correct it before we sign off on his baseball obituary.
    =====

    Nice post. I think that this is probably the most sensible thing that I’ve seen on the discussions about Tex. You know people have gone off the reservation when they start making PEDS use insinuations.

    For the remainder of the season, Girardi really ought to consider moving Tex down in the line-up against righties, or perhaps better still, using Posada in his place against righties. There is nothing that Tex can do to fix this problem right now, but Girardi has some options to mitigate the harm until Tex corrects his left-handed swing in the off-season.

  14. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:32 am

    Oh, I think we’ve seen that pitching is what counts. Jete always says it, so it must be true! :)

    I never thought the Yanks would do much in the playoffs earlier this year, so I don’t know why it feels so disappointing to watch them lose winnable games now…I guess because the Sux were doing so badly. But yeah, Philly’s pitching is out of control. But hey — you gotta get a run in to win…they’re aren’t exactly lighting it up hitting-wise over there.

  15. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:33 am

    For the remainder of the season, Girardi really ought to consider moving Tex down in the line-up against righties, or perhaps better still, using Posada in his place against righties. There is nothing that Tex can do to fix this problem right now, but Girardi has some options to mitigate the harm until Tex corrects his left-handed swing in the off-season.

    ~~~~~~~~

    This has much too common sense for Girardi to consider it.

  16. Ghostwriter September 17th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    UnKnown September 17th, 2011 at 1:25 am

    We’re Fine. Go a very pedestrian 6-7 the final 13 games and they win the division with 96 wins. Boston would have to go 9-3 their last 12 to win 96 and snatch the division from our grabs.

    Not going to happen. Boston will lose more than 3 games. And the Yankees will win a minimum of 6. Get your goggles ready to pop some champagne as returning AL EAST CHAMPS.

    I know its fun to panic and freak out, but let’s all try and take a deep breath here and chill out a bit. Plenty of time to squeeze the stress balls in October.
    ===========
    Yep.

  17. Nick in SF September 17th, 2011 at 1:35 am

    What is our walkoff differential?

    And what is the worst walkoff differential of a team that still won a pennant?

    I’m curious.

  18. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Unknown,

    I don’t think anyone is in panic mode about making the playoffs. It’s what the Yanks will do in the playoffs that’s troubling.

  19. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Not buying that Teixeira’s problem is mechanical and is correctable. Teixeira is in decline at the plate. Four years is too long a time to observe a steady decline pretty much across the board and think otherwise. K. Long didn’t just come on the scene today and he and Teixeira have done lots of work last year and this.

    2008 – .308/.410/.552/.962

    2009 – .292/.383/.565/.948

    2010 – .256/.365/.481/.846

    2011 – .246/.339/.492/.831

  20. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:37 am

    WCYF,

    I believe it’s a bit of both.

  21. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 1:39 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:32 am

    “………But yeah, Philly’s pitching is out of control. But hey — you gotta get a run in to win…they’re aren’t exactly lighting it up hitting-wise over there.”

    ************

    With those ERA’s how many runs do you need to score? Do you think they can score more than two runs a game? When they do, their record is 85-19.

  22. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 1:40 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:37 am

    WCYF, I believe it’s a bit of both.

    *************

    Fair enough, I’m open. But after four years I have to se it before I believe it. It’s not as if Teixeira didn’t have a hitting coach these four years.

  23. Ghostwriter September 17th, 2011 at 1:42 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:37 am

    WCYF,

    I believe it’s a bit of both.
    =============

    What do you mean both?

  24. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:46 am

    “Girardi and GM Brian Cashman had plenty of opportunities to pull the trigger on one of the surplus pitchers in their starting rotation, if only to preserve what they and every pitching coach at every level of the game loves to profess is so vitally important to a pitcher’s success: the maintaining of a regular routine.

    Sabathia worked on four days’ rest in 16 of his first 22 starts. The results were a 14-5 record and a 2.62 ERA. Since then, the numbers are 5-3 and 3.89. More alarmingly, he has allowed 81 hits in 69 1/3 innings, an average of 10.5 hits per nine innings pitched. When the Yankees first announced they were going to a six-man rotation, Sabathia admitted he preferred to remain on his regular schedule.

    Friday night, confronted with the results since being forced to work on an extra day of rest, Sabathia seemed loathe to be perceived as using the change in his routine as an excuse.

    http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....unning-gas

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Team player, that CC, now trying to take the blame off management for their mishandling of the pitchers. Someone mentioned this earlier, and I had to agree — Wouldn’t it truly be ironic if Girardi/Cashman ended up sacrificing CC to help that knucklehead, AJ, who will never, ever be an ace for any team?

  25. Ghostwriter September 17th, 2011 at 1:48 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:36 am

    Unknown,

    I don’t think anyone is in panic mode about making the playoffs. It’s what the Yanks will do in the playoffs that’s troubling.
    ==============

    All bets are off in the playoffs. Pretty, shiny batting averages and ERAs don’t matter anymore. It’s all about match-ups and who gets hot. All of the teams that will be in the playoffs, but I think that the Yanks match up pretty well against all of them (with the possible exception of the Sox). I like our chances a lot.

  26. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Ghostwriter,

    By both, I mean Tex is dealing with the inevitable aging process, along with his mechanical problems.

  27. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    WCFY,

    It makes me wonder how open Tex is to advice? His swing is so wacky that I wonder if he just doesn’t think he can really “rework” anything and still be a premier player he’s always been. He has to do something because he’s not really the Tex the Yanks signed up for.

  28. RSM September 17th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    Before worrying about Philadelphia, worry about Detroit.

  29. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:55 am

    I know Chavez is fragile, but I’d rather have him playing right now than Alex — working with that batting ring is like changing your swing. Do we have enough games for Alex to even adjust? He don’t need the cleanup hitter batting <.100 that's for sure.

  30. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:55 am

    RSM — true. They are HOT.

  31. Ghostwriter September 17th, 2011 at 1:57 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    Ghostwriter,

    By both, I mean Tex is dealing with the inevitable aging process, along with his mechanical problems.
    ===========

    I see. I suspect that aging could be a factor. However, at 31, I tend to think that age couldn’t be a significant factor for Tex. I think that his struggles have a lot more to do with that uppercut in his swing from the left side. Interestingly, Tex had similar results when he first broke into the league as he’s had this year with his lefty swing . It’s pretty clear to me that it’s mechanical and correctable.

  32. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 1:59 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    WCFY,

    It makes me wonder how open Tex is to advice? His swing is so wacky that I wonder if he just doesn’t think he can really “rework” anything and still be a premier player he’s always been. He has to do something because he’s not really the Tex the Yanks signed up for.

    ************

    You are right, he is not that player. I have never seen a “noisier” swing than his. Nothing is still; his bat is waggling, his hips are swaying, his head is moving, it’s a wonder he gets the bat head through the zone at all. And I am not convinced that his bat speed is the same as it was in 2007 and even 2008.

    In Tex’s case, good old fashioned BA does matter. He is always admonishing the press to “look at the back of his baseball card at the end of the year”. I’m not so sure he wants to keep doing that, not when you have four years in a row of your four-slash line regressing every year.

  33. JobaTipsHisCap September 17th, 2011 at 2:03 am

    3 games lead over Sux is nothing. Yanks remaining schedule is pretty tough, they have to play Sux 3 more games anyway.

  34. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 2:03 am

    WCYF,

    You forgot to mention the facial expression. He looks absolutely manic before he swings. A little scary, I must say.

    Oh, and that “back of the baseball card” is a phrase we haven’t heard either Tex or Girardi mention lately. In fact, there’s not a lot of talk at all about Tex’s struggles, are there? I wonder why the reporters don’t ask more about that and why Tex is stll batting 3rd?

  35. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 2:06 am

    “I think that his struggles have a lot more to do with that uppercut in his swing from the left side. Interestingly, Tex had similar results when he first broke into the league as he’s had this year with his lefty swing.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Think the Yanks could find his old hitting coach then and give him a job helping Tex? Hey, Jete’s swing needed someone other than K-Long.

  36. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 2:06 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 2:03 am

    WCYF, You forgot to mention the facial expression. He looks absolutely manic before he swings. A little scary, I must say.

    Oh, and that “back of the baseball card” is a phrase we haven’t heard either Tex or Girardi mention lately. In fact, there’s not a lot of talk at all about Tex’s struggles, are there? I wonder why the reporters don’t ask more about that and why Tex is stll batting 3rd?

    *************

    Why is Tex batting 3rd? I think there are two reasons.

    1. His home run and RBI totals are intoxicating.

    2. Superstars in New York have a very, very long leash.

  37. Wang IS Taiwan September 17th, 2011 at 2:07 am

    Gotta run, guys. I’ve got errands.

  38. brownies September 17th, 2011 at 6:59 am

    Tex is a concern and should be to K Long and his paycheck signers.

  39. jacksquat September 17th, 2011 at 7:05 am

    West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 1:27 am
    What does this all matter when one considers the team the Phillies have. You think anyone is beating Halladay, Lee, Hamels and Worley? I seriously doubt it.

    Halladay: 18-5 (2.34)
    Lee: 16-7 (2.38)
    Hamels: 14-8 (2.71)
    Worley: 11-2 (2.85)

    In Tom Verduci’s article today he makes these astounding points; just for those who doubt that pitching is really what matters and that the Phillies have it.

    “Philadelphia’s winning percentage in 2011 when it scores more than two runs is .817 (85-19).”

    “The Phillies scored a total of five runs yesterday in a doubleheader, and won both games.”

    IIRC, Maddux, Glavine and Smoltz (+Avery, Millwood, etc) were beaten, and the opposing team(s) did not have equivalent pitching staffs on paper.

  40. Villa Nova-Ya September 17th, 2011 at 7:31 am

    The Phillies, while certainly after adding Lee are improved from last year, no one thought last year’s version could be defeated either, thought they’d waltz through and win the WS. They didn’t even get there.

    I’m not saying they won’t win this season, but I think it’s always a mistake to anoint any team (including our very own Yankees) as the champion before a game has been played. Baseball history is full of cautionary tales – teams who were never supposed to get to the playoffs winning it all; unbeatable teams with far superior pitching who were not supposed to allow a run, much less lose, doing just that.

    Who could have foreseen Matt Holliday playing like a little leaguer last season?

    And not for nothin’ but the Phillies are far and away the best team in the NL, but how would they fare in the AL? They’d still be good, but perhaps they’d be about where the Yankees, Tigers, Rangers, Red Sox, Tampa, Angels are.

    And don’t forget the “Cinderella” team syndrome. This year I think the Diamondbacks would fill that bill, so I’m not counting them out at all.

    On any given day, anyone is capable of doing anything. None of the Phillies pitchers are totally undefeated. That means they can be beaten, yes?

    In fact, we know that Cliff Lee has been beaten in the off-season.

  41. sab September 17th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    Command is the issue for a supposed ACE….for the last 2 months and especially IN SEPTEMBER!!!???

    How often do you hear Roy Halladay, Clayton Kershaw, Felix Hernandez or Verlander say for 8 consecutive starts in August and September that they had no command? 1 game maybe…2 games probably…but this guy has been downright BAD the last 6 weeks..

    That is not Ace material….and really if the “Ace” word is brought up everytime this guy pitches you know there is doubt about that..

    Lastly, anyone notice how big his gut has gotten (again)…I guess he’s back to eating 3 boxes of frosted flakes a day again…you don’t think that makes a difference for someone getting older? Fatty looks like he’s struggling and in pain from the get go the last 2 months..and it shows in the way he’s pitching….

  42. rr212 September 17th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Yanks need to go after CJ Wilson and a bat that hits for avg in the offseason. Can’t keep depending on the long ball to win.

  43. rr212 September 17th, 2011 at 8:12 am

    Cap n’ Crunch is his snakc of choice. Not Frosted Flakes. :)

  44. CountryClub September 17th, 2011 at 8:23 am

    I don’t know if the 6 man rotation is to blame for CC’s struggles or not. But I do know that he hasn’t been the same since he came back after the 2nd rain delay in the almost perfect game. He has struggled ever since then.

  45. MTU September 17th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    New thread ==>

  46. DocTodd September 17th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Maybe CC stands for Crispy Cream?? (yes, I know that’s not how the company spells it, but.)

  47. DocTodd September 17th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Or Chocolate Cake….or Captain Crunch?

  48. Yankees_Fan September 17th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    Girardi has to stop.

    Joe G seems to treat September like a postseason tryout, and it results in more losses than it should for the Yankees. For starters, the 6th man rotation has disturbed the routine of our most important pitcher, which is wrong when you think that Hughes and Burnett should have no starting role in the postseason.

    Auditioning the bullpen has made him give more chances to veterans with mediocre stuff and terrible results. Guys like Logan, Laffey, Ayala and Proctor have been used late in tied games and the result has been a bad record in one-run games and even worse in walk-offs. Even Wade, a surprise before, has coughed up some games.

    Who should he have gone to? In earlier September games, to Brackman and maybe Kontos and Betances. In the last ones that have been important, like yesterday, to Noesi, who has been more tan solid most of te times.

    And what about the lineup? His faith in certain guys has backfired. Teixeira terrible batting high in the order. Nunez, who is out there mainly for his bat, has been horrible. A-Rod shouldn’t be used at cleanup until he proves he is healthy. Montero, a surprisingly solid hitter so early in his MLB career, should be played more often, especially at catcher a few times.

    We can’t keep playing September like this. If Girardi wants to win in October, he better start doing so in September.

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