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Pregame notes: “Don’t know what version we’re going to get”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Notes on Sep 17, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

When Alex Rodriguez came back from knee surgery, he was immediately inserted back into the cleanup spot. This time, coming back from his sprained thumb, Rodriguez is sliding down a spot to fifth in the order.

“It’s more that he’s just missed time,” Joe Girardi said. “Really, he hasn’t played much in the last two months, so I figured we’ll just keep Robbie there for right now, and if Alex gets going, we can adjust our lineup as we see needed.”

Rodriguez plans to play with a ring of tape around the handle of his bat, and that ring will keep his top hand from driving into his sore thumb. He tried it yesterday and liked the results.

“Just to have the authority to get through the zone the way I’m used to is the most important thing,” Rodriguez said. “I think timing takes a little adjustment, but not as bad as the other thing.”

Whether he has that authority through the zone will determine which version of Rodriguez the Yankees have these last two weeks and into the postseason.

“We don’t know what version we’re going to get,” Girardi said. “We might get the version we had at the beginning of the season when he was healthy. If that version is in there, that’s really good.”

• Girardi said it’s “fair to say” he wants CC Sabathia to start Game 1 of the division series, but right now, Sabathia’s not lined up for that game. Getting him on regular rest for Game 1 seems to require that he start next Sunday on short rest, but Girardi said he hasn’t decided what to do with Sabathia leading into the postseason. “We’ve got to see after his next start how he feels,” Girardi said. “You’re asking a hypothetical question and I can’t answer it, because I don’t know where we’re going to be and I don’t know how he’s going to feel after his next start. Let’s just wait and see after he starts on Wednesday, then we’ll look at Friday and Saturday and decide what we’re going to do.”

• Kind of surprising, but Girardi revealed that Sabathia actually asked for an extra day of rest heading into his Sept. 10 start against Anaheim. “I think pitchers prefer to pitch every fifth day, but we’re in a situation where we’ve had some off-days and we’ve had to (give Sabathia extra rest),” Girardi said. “There was a time he asked for an extra day one time, so we gave it to him. We’re just doing the best with what we’ve got.”

• Part of the reason for starting Austin Romine is the fact he faced Toronto starter Henderson Alvarez earlier this season. “Romine saw this kid in Double-A and hit a couple balls hard off him,” Girardi said. “He’s familiar with him.”

• Speaking of Romine, he was studying scouting reports in the clubhouse long before a lot of players arrived at the ballpark. The kid seems to be doing whatever he can to be ready.

• Girardi said Romine’s not necessarily his regular No. 2 catcher. “I’ll look at that individually each day,” Girardi said. As for the possibility of carrying both Romine and Jesus Montero in the postseason, Girardi said, “We’ll worry about that when we get there.”

• Boone Logan was really sharp for a while, but he’s taken a step back recently. “He’s just not quite as sharp,” Girardi said. “He’s making a mistake and they’re hitting it. He threw some really good sliders to Adam Lind (last night), and the one that he hit, he left it up in the middle. Good hitters are going to put that in play and usually hit it hard.”

• With three straight day games, Girardi said he expects some regulars to get time off Sunday and Monday. “I’m going to rest a couple of the guys,” Girardi said. “It is what it is. We’re going to have to give the guys a little bit of rest. It’s not what we want, but our schedule has just been bad.”

BLUE JAYS
Mike McCoy SS
Kelly Johnson 2B
Jose Bautista RF
Adam Lind 1B
David Cooper DH
Colby Rasmus CF
Brett Lawrie 3B
Adam Loewen LF
Jose Molina C

Associated Press photos

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23 Responses to “Pregame notes: “Don’t know what version we’re going to get””

  1. TheStraw September 17th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Monday is shaping up as a big day…Yanks with the makeup game and Sux with a DH against the fighting Showalters….

  2. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 12:38 pm

    Posada hitting and Montero catching – two moves that will likely have zero impact on whether the Yankees win it all this year. Make that less than zero. I am going to take a shot with Montero at DH and Martin catching.

    * I would never sit Martin so Montero can catch and Posada DH in the post-season.

    * I would never sit Montero so Martin can catch and Posada DH in the post-season?

    * I would never platoon Posada and Montero at DH against righties and lefties respectively in the post-season.

    This would be my lineup every day in the post season; barring injury or an occasional shuffle against a tough leftie like a Cliff Lee. (with the understanding that Girardi will not drop Tex, etc.)

    Jeter-SS
    Granderson-CF
    Teixeira-1B
    A-Rod-3B
    Cano-2B
    Swisher-RF
    Montero-DH
    Martin-C
    Gardner-LF

  3. Red Robin September 17th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Humm. What was C.C. doing wearing long sleeves at an indoor stadium, during the middle of Indian summer?

  4. blake September 17th, 2011 at 12:40 pm

    Glad to see Alex back…..I would have flipped he and Tex in the lineup.

  5. LockDown September 17th, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    The issue I have with the rotation, is not the 6-man, but not managing CC properly. They should have worked backward. Have him pitch the last day of the season & then count backward so that he’s set all the way through september.

    Let the other guys pitch around him. Then they can properly cover the DH etc while keeping everyone pitching AND keep CC going right up until the playoffs. It’s crazy to try and adjust CC in the last week to get him the proper days prior to the playoffs. He can’t have 7+ days rest before game 1. I thought they would do something like this because Girardi mentioned the idea of pitching around CC, and I figured it would definitely start when garcia came back from the DL, but it never happened.

  6. Red Robin September 17th, 2011 at 12:50 pm

    Last 21 innings, Henderson Álvarez has allowed only 3 (!) runs.

    Hope we can pull this one out, but it is not looking good.

  7. LGY September 17th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    The Yankees got walked off on again last night? Jeez.

    Alex batting 5th? Interesting but probably does not speak well for where he is at health wise right now.

    Girardi still has no plan for how to prepare CC for the playoffs? Shocking. The most important player on the team and Girardi rides him harder than anyone yet duds like Rafael Soriano or Boone Logan get protected to the extreme.

    I thought it was a terrible idea to send him out after that 2nd rain delay against Tampa and he hasn’t been the same since.

    Sorry for such a negative post :P

  8. Red Robin September 17th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Not to mention that we have never faced him before.

  9. RadioKev September 17th, 2011 at 12:52 pm

    Couple of reposts:

    RadioKev September 17th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
    Mind you, I like Romine, but not having Montero primed and acclimated to back up Martin was a mistake.
    ————

    I mean, that’s a double edged sword right there. He caught more than he would have at AAA, but he didn’t catch these pitchers. Overall, I’d say he’s probably better off for being forced to work on his catching more in the minors.

    RadioKev September 17th, 2011 at 12:49 pm
    This would be my lineup every day in the post season; barring injury or an occasional shuffle against a tough leftie like a Cliff Lee. (with the understanding that Girardi will not drop Tex, etc.)
    ——–

    Why no Chavez? I imagine he’ll play some 3B and A-Rod will DH, and the team will be no worse off. I don’t think Montero right now is much better than Chavez, if any better at all.

  10. LockDown September 17th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    I thought it was a terrible idea to send him out after that 2nd rain delay against Tampa and he hasn’t been the same since.

    —–

    I agree he shouldn’t have been sent back out there after such a long delay (the 2nd time).

    Do you think there’s something going on with CC because of that, either mentally with the almost perfect game and what happened in that last inning OR do you think he got out of whack (whether or whatever)

  11. kd September 17th, 2011 at 12:56 pm

    if arod gets hot and stays healthy, it’s a huge boost to the team. let’s hope he’s strong and can carry the team for a while

  12. LGY September 17th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    CC has thrown 478 pitches in his past 4 starts.

    That’s pretty much insane given how close we are to October.

  13. LockDown September 17th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Yeah, having A-rod could be big. But he needs to play through the thumb. The rest of the team is playing through nicks & pains AND exhaustion. A-rod needs to step up & help out.

  14. LGY September 17th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    Lockdown

    I wouldn’t think it’s a mental thing with CC.

    I assume he just got a little out of whack and I think his arm is tired so his body is not letting him get back in rhythm.

  15. Ghostwriter September 17th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    LGY September 17th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    CC has thrown 478 pitches in his past 4 starts.

    That’s pretty much insane given how close we are to October.
    =================

    If, as is commonly surmised, CC is too strong, because the 6-man rotation is giving him too much rest, then why would having him throw a few extra pitches be a bad thing?

  16. MoRings42 September 17th, 2011 at 1:01 pm

    He has to stop the silly 6 man rotation. One of these guys.. cough AJ cough.. is more than likely going to be useless the first round.. He’s not going to start and I don’t want to see him coming from the pen. Hughes translates better than him so what’s the point anymore?

  17. LGY September 17th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    Ghost

    I don’t think he is too strong. Personally I don’t think the extra rest has anything to do with it but I thought the argument was that he is out of his routine, not too strong…

  18. NYYanksFan September 17th, 2011 at 1:03 pm

    He can play through the thumb but he won’t be the hitter you want while he’s doing it.

    Try doing the simplest thing without your thumb. You don’t realize how much you need it until you can’t use it.

  19. Bret The Hitman September 17th, 2011 at 1:04 pm

    In the playoffs I’d platoon Gardner/Jones and Chavez/Montero. I’d use Chavez at 3b and A-rod as DH vs. righties and Jones in LF and Montero at DH vs. lefties.

    vs. righties

    Jeter-ss
    Granderson-cf
    Cano-2b
    Rodgriguez-dh
    Swisher-rf
    Teixeira-1b
    Chavez-3b
    Martin-c
    Gardner-lf

    vs. lefties

    Jeter-ss
    Granderson-cf
    Cano-2b
    Rodgriguez-3b
    Swisher-rf
    Jones-lf
    Teixeira-1b
    Montero-dh
    Martin-c

  20. West Coast Yankee Fan September 17th, 2011 at 1:05 pm

    “If, as is commonly surmised, CC is too strong, because the 6-man rotation is giving him too much rest, then why would having him throw a few extra pitches be a bad thing?”

    ***********

    Because the commonly surmised is often wrong. Sabathia has thrown 230 innings, the next closest Yankee starter 178.

    “Girardi revealed that Sabathia actually asked for an extra day of rest heading into his Sept. 10 start against Anaheim.”

  21. LGY September 17th, 2011 at 1:07 pm

    And Ghost

    Having him throw extra pitches because he is too strong is basically intentionally trying to tire his arm out.

    That would be extremely reckless.

  22. LockDown September 17th, 2011 at 1:10 pm

    LGY,

    I thought CC was fatigued. I noticed it during the angels game (2 starts after the redsox game). It wasn’t just control issues here & there, but how he was throwing. I do wonder if that redsox game really sucked some life out of him or if like “coming down off a high”. I also notice that Lester struggled in his 2nd start after that series (4IP 111pitches)

  23. Venessa Whitehorn August 22nd, 2014 at 11:24 pm

    Welcome Steinbach! We are so ecstatic to welcome you towards the Fruit Share relatives we know you are likely to love it!

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