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Blowout in the Bronx

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 22, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The Yankees didn’t need a win tonight, and I guess that’s the silver lining after a 15-8 debacle. The Rays knocked Bartolo Colon out of the game after three innings, did plenty of damage against a series of September call-ups and pulled within two games of the Red Sox in the wild-card race. Colon has now had two starts in a row in which he’s pitched four innings or less, and he’s far from the reliable starter he was in the first half. Andruw Jones had a two-run homer and Jesus Montero had a two-run double, but the Yankees were outgunned from the very beginning. Andrew Brackman made a scoreless major-league debut, but Dellin Betances allowed two runs on four walks and a hit batter during his two-thirds of an inning.

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65 Responses to “Blowout in the Bronx”

  1. TheHansons September 22nd, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    Why are people cheering for the Angels? They’d actually have a chance in the playoffs. I’ll take these lame-duck Red Sox anyday over the Angels or the Rays.

  2. MTU September 22nd, 2011 at 10:47 pm

    What happened with Bartolo tonight is a cause for concern.

    :(

  3. I Like Inge September 22nd, 2011 at 10:51 pm

    Colon was probably at Sue’s last night drinking and got home at 5 or 6 in the morning drunk as hell. I’m thinking half to 3/4 of the team was hungover today. Heck I would be after clinching the division.

  4. Yogi Mantle September 22nd, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Angels lose.

  5. Vince September 22nd, 2011 at 10:53 pm

    Everyone, and I mean everyone, should be rooting for a three way playoff, regardless of the team you want in (personally, I want Tampa because though they have good pitching, our pitchers can actually shut down their lineup, and nothing says guys like Hellicksen will be good in the playoffs).

    BTW, a little harsh on them tonight? This game meant absolutely nothing to anyone except Colon. They were destined to lose. It’s probably better that they did.

  6. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 10:54 pm

    This game is meaningless and I don’t need any silver linings, nor does the team – I doubt they even care because while the Rays blew them out, the Yankees are in the playoffs already and the Rays are on the outside looking in.

    The real problem is Colon, who I think now is toast. I don’t even think he’d do well in the pen at this point – it’s not his fault, but his lack of innings is catching up to him. Garcia, IMO, has not lost anything off his “stuff” – he’s just in a slump. I’d like to see him rebound in his next start or two – IMO, he has to be a lock for the post-season start. When we need a 4th starter, IF we make it to the ALCS, then we’ll have to see…………either way, the options are not too appealing. The pen is going to have to shoulder a lot of the burden.

  7. yankeefeminista September 22nd, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Yay to Angels losing; thank you, Jays!

  8. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Vince, I thought it was kind of harsh as well. Who cares about doing damage against September call-ups? This was hardly a debacle.

  9. m September 22nd, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    Walk off in Toronto. Angels have had their chances, as have the Rays. We might just see the Sox back in. That will probably leave us with the Rangers. I can’t name a starter beyond CJ Wilson. Maybe Ogando?

  10. TheHansons September 22nd, 2011 at 10:56 pm

    Vince, I’m totally with you. Three way playoff would be awesome!

  11. Vince September 22nd, 2011 at 10:57 pm

    Betsy,

    Yeah, the tone is a little curious. This is literally the most meaningless game they have played since the end of the 2009 season. Debacle? Taking 3 of four, sweeping a doubleheader, clinching the wildcard and division and hurting Boston with half your MLB team playing and no key relievers, and STILL scoring eight runs is hardly a debacle. Laffy and Proctor won’t sniff the playoff roster.

  12. TheStraw September 22nd, 2011 at 10:58 pm

    Why don’t you guys take it easy on Colon? I’m sure he was at the very least mentally hung over after the celebration and maybe physically hung over. His last few starts were not as bad as this…wait and see until Tuesday.

  13. Vince September 22nd, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Even as a Baseball fan, three way playoff would rule. Not to mention, the winner is exhausted, jet lagged and worn down regardless, even if only one combination means we play them.

    The funny thing is it can happen in both leagues. 12 teams can have a playoff spot after 162 games.

    But no parity in baseball.

  14. yankeefeminista September 22nd, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Who in the game thread was worried about tonight’s outcome? I don’t recall anyone even slightly concerned about the loss. Now, Colon is a different story. He cannot pitch as is.

  15. m September 22nd, 2011 at 10:59 pm

    Why root for the Angels? Because the best 3 teams in the AL are in the east.

    Anyway, we gotta face whoever.

    If it’s an AL east team who gets the WC, we’ll likely have to face the Rangers and Detroit.
    If the Angels get in, we face the Angels and ….? Actually, Rangers vs. Tigers in the first round would be a fun series to watch.

  16. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:00 pm

    Vince, that’s right…..I don’t really care about the results of any game at this point. I mean, I want the Yankees to be playing well to be sure, but they did their jobs; now it’s just about the best way to prepare for the post-season. I mentioned that earlier tonight – Laffey and Proctor will not be pitching in the post-season, so whatever the Rays did to them tonight has no bearing on anything. 3/4 from the Rays who were desperate? I’ll take that any day of the week.

  17. m September 22nd, 2011 at 11:01 pm

    I don’t want the Sox in, but I still wanted the Yankees to win today. Hopefully we can sweep them this weekend.

  18. Vince September 22nd, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Yes, Betsy, exactly.

    Perfect world? Yankees sweep Boston, lose the first two to Tampa (playing out the string obviously) win the last one for some momentum and that forces a three way playoff.

  19. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:02 pm

    Yankeefem, we’re commenting about Chad’s comments. Oddly they are more negative than anything in the game thread, lol.

    I honestly do not give a flying fig tree about who the Yankees play. I don’t care if the Angels, Sox or Rays win the WC. I don’t care if we face TX or Detroit. If we’re a WS type team, then we will beat whomever we have to face – and if it means going through Verlander twice or an annoying Angels team, so be it.

  20. jacksquat September 22nd, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Garcia has not been any better than Colon. He has a 10.95 ERA in September.

  21. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    Vince, I don’t think the Yankees are going to be playing all out against the Sox, so I’m not sure how much damage we’ll do against them. We’ll see, though – I’m not much into predictions.

  22. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:04 pm

    yeah, well IMO Garcia is just in a slump – while Colon has seemingly lost his juice. You can come out of a slump a lot easier than you can recover your juice/stamina/whatever

  23. Yogi Mantle September 22nd, 2011 at 11:05 pm

    The good news tonight was even with the loss, we got to see some of the young arms pitching, we got to see Montero behind the plate and do some damage with the bat, the Tiggers lost, the Ranglers lost, so the Yankees still got a number off the magic number for HFA.

    The Yankees still have a 5 game cushion for HFA, and they are going to face the Red Sox so they might show up to play , especially if Martin has anything t o say about it. ;)

  24. Captain Clutch September 22nd, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    The Sox are a tough matchup for Garcia but hopefully his off speed stuff looks better and they can get him back on track. At this point the Yanks have to forget about Colon. They abused his arm and it looks like he has nothing left. With the stupid 6 man rotation they had plenty of chances to skip him or Garcia and they choose not to. So this was to be expected.

  25. jacksquat September 22nd, 2011 at 11:06 pm

    Presently it doesn’t look good beyond CC and Nova. It looks like the rest of the way might be one start tryouts for postseason starts.

  26. Vince September 22nd, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Well, that’s why it’s perfect world haha..

    I don’t think they will either, but the Sox could be that bad right now. The elephant in the room to me is they’ve seen Beckett what, four times now? Beckett is regressing (BABIP and other stats implied he would) AND the Yankees have seen him plenty, not to mention Lester hasn’t been dominant like he has to be for awhile now. Even if Boston somehow finds their way into the ALCS, they may have no more bullets left in the chamber.

  27. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Clutch, they definitely should have skipped Colon………..Garcia, no biggie, but he probably could have used a turn off as well.

  28. Villa Nova-Ya September 22nd, 2011 at 11:08 pm

    Colon and Garcia missed time with injury, so in essence they were skipped, and you can argue that a six-man rotation saved them each at least one more start.

  29. fantasygame101 September 22nd, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    orioles are red hot right now. they are helping the yankees alot

  30. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:10 pm

    Vince, I think if the Sox get in they’re dangerous because Beckett and Lester are capable of dominating…….but of course, that doesn’t mean they’d be a lock to advance. I’ve not really thought much about other teams as the only one that really concerns me is the Yanks and they did their job.

  31. m September 22nd, 2011 at 11:11 pm

    You never know what your starters are going to give you, so there’s no sense worrying about that. CC and Nova aren’t guaranteed wins either.

    They play every other day, right? I’d like to see Girardi pull starters too early rather than too late. Use the bullpen up because they’ve been our best pitchers as of late. Piece together each game, and worry about the next one later.

  32. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    I did forget Garcia missed a couple of weeks, but Colon only missed about 1 week…….Tis true about having extra rest via the 6 man. In any case, I don’t think the Yankees did a terrible job – they could have skipped them, but Colon may have worn down anyway given how little he’d pitched over the last few years

  33. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:14 pm

    M, if they play every other day, they can afford to do that with the pen because of the day off. I wouldn’t recommend that as an ongoing solution because eventually all that pitching will catch up to the pen, but it might have to be done. The thing is, do we really trust Wade and Ayala in big games? They are question marks regardless of how they’ve done in the regular season.

  34. m September 22nd, 2011 at 11:19 pm

    No, Wade and Ayala are not ideal. But they’ve been better collectively than most of our starters.

    I like all our starters, but it’s been a rough go for the back end this month.

  35. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    M, yep……but while I’m concerned, it’s not like I’m fretting. Sometimes players step up to become post-season heroes – and often the most surprising players. Who knows? The story has yet to be written.

  36. yankeefeminista September 22nd, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    m, we play two days in a row, multiple times, and in WS, three days in a row.

    Betsy, gotcha about Chad’s post.

    I would prefer not to have to go to the West Coast for a short series. Beyond that I am not concerned about who we play. However, if it comes down to Boston or the Angels making it, I will always root for Boston not to make it.

    Postgame, nice interviews with the Killer B’s. Betances said he was pretty nervous but glad to get first one over with and hoped to get back in again this year. Brackman said he was nervous and didn’t have his curveball. I’d love to see Brack back in with his curveball working.

    Hope to see another good outing for Garcia vs. Red Sox.

  37. Betsy September 22nd, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Night!

  38. Vince September 22nd, 2011 at 11:21 pm

    Bullpen should be: Hughes, Wade, Logan, Robo Cop, Soriano, Mo…I’m almost tempted to take Valdez, I love that dude, esp against a lefty heavy lineup…Leave Burnett off the roster

  39. m September 22nd, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Of course, the few fans that still have the energy to complain are moaning about tonight’s game at extra bases. We gifted them +7 in the season series, and they’re still complaining.

  40. Nick in SF September 22nd, 2011 at 11:23 pm

    Some games are on consecutive nights.

    I’d like to see AJ dominate vs. the Sox, then pitch him on short rest for the final game and let him dominate again and finish with 12the wins.

  41. m September 22nd, 2011 at 11:24 pm

    Not sure I thought they play every other day. Must be thinking NBA. Speaking of… :(

  42. yankeefeminista September 22nd, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    m, here’s the playoff sched:

    http://mlb.mlb.com/nyy/ticketi.....hedule.jsp

  43. m September 22nd, 2011 at 11:29 pm

    yf,

    Thanks. Bookmarked it for future reference.

  44. pat September 22nd, 2011 at 11:30 pm

    Anthony Rieber
    Of course CC is going to pitch Game 4 on three days rest. Good to hear Girardi and CC kinda fess up to it now. Why pretend otherwise?

  45. Villa Nova-Ya September 22nd, 2011 at 11:31 pm

    Colon was out from June 12 to July 2.

  46. sunny615 September 22nd, 2011 at 11:40 pm

    This doesn’t exactly encourage me about the playoff rotation behind CC and Nova. Could be a short postseason. Hope Hughes’ back healed up all nice.

    Wonder how Nova pitches in short rest….

  47. LGY September 22nd, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    Brackmonster and Betances pitched tonight and I missed it!!?

    Fack!

  48. Captain Clutch September 22nd, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    I think the Yanks really need Hughes to be healthy. Even though he has been up and down I think he is their best option as a #3 or #4 starter. Garcia will probably be the #3 starter but if he gets hammered it would be nice to have Hughes out of the bullpen. I would leave Colon and AJ off the roster.

  49. LGY September 22nd, 2011 at 11:45 pm

    Compass Rosy are you out there??

    I have a Mariners related tidbit you might find cool.

  50. luis September 22nd, 2011 at 11:50 pm

    Hi again!!,

    Lost my Internet wireless conection, just managed to put it back on line….Brackman had a good debut and Betances was all over the place….two weeks is a long time for a pitcher.

  51. m September 22nd, 2011 at 11:51 pm

    Would love to have Hughes healthy enough to contribute. He could be considered an X factor.

  52. pat September 22nd, 2011 at 11:56 pm

    Love that the “vets” on the team are supportive of the “kids”.

    Dellin sounded disappointed but said “The Captain, A-Rod and Cano had my back” and gave him a little chin up/you’ll get them next time pep talk in the clubhouse.

  53. Yogi Mantle September 22nd, 2011 at 11:57 pm

    Looking good so far for Tommy LaSorta to get his 1600th win.

  54. Yogi Mantle September 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    I wonder how long it will take for RS fans to accuse the Yankees for tanking the game because Martin talked about hating the RS.

  55. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 22nd, 2011 at 11:59 pm

    “Why don’t you guys take it easy on Colon? I’m sure he was at the very least mentally hung over after the celebration and maybe physically hung over. His last few starts were not as bad as this…wait and see until Tuesday.”

    For the same reason they complained their way through the season? Because they are threatened by anything less than perfection and can only process anything except through a lens of pessimism and negativity? Because they have never been able to see beyond their noses and so to look at the entire picture and think about it rationally is entirely foreign to them?

    Before I go on, let me say that I have no idea who the “they” are. I just think anyone whining about anything at this point needs a good slap across the mush. Cripes even a monkey learns if you show it enough. This place was a cesspool of negativity throughout the season, with portends of horrific outcomes for the Yankees and they won the damned division. Maybe “they” should realize “their” judgement hasn’t been worth spit and so “they” might want to back off and let people who have called it right teach them how to process.

    And no, I don’t have anyone in particular in mind though I do know the posters on here who typically maintained their cool and made rational comments after losses and weren’t off the wall with their comments. I just know that the best guides aren’t necessarily those who saw everything in a black light. I mean come on, the Yankees proved you wrong. They won the division.

    Okay, rant is over. I just find it appalling that any ominous judgements would be passed on any Yankee players the day after they clinched the division and after an evening of champagne and partying.

    How about sit back and just let it all happen for once. You’re not making the decisions on what happens and the guys who are have done a pretty damned good job of it. Hell if some of the posters on this forum had their way, half the team wouldn’t be playing for the Yankees any more!

    GEESH

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 23rd, 2011 at 12:02 am

    All of that said, I don’t know if anyone really got down on Colon or any other Yankee player. I was just going off Straw’s post.

    :)

  57. Bret The Hitman September 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 am

    The postseason rotation looks like CC, Nova, Garcia, Burnett. Hughes pitches better out of the pen as a two pitch pony and Colon won’t give length at this point in the year. Plus Colon has pen experience this season. This way Colon is the long man for Garcia and Hughes the long man for Burnett. Say what you want but Burnett has more big game potential than anyone but CC and Nova at this point. Just keep him on a short leash. 4 or 5 innings plus 2 baserunners and I mean only 2.

  58. m September 23rd, 2011 at 12:07 am

    I’d like to mention again that the Red Sox are 7 games back even though we spotted them +7 games so far this year. The Sox themselves won’t be grumbling, they know which side the bread is buttered. :P

    My greatest fear was that it would come down to this last week for us because at one time the Sox were in the position to do some serious damage to us. But, it’s all good. And we can thank the Orioles for the breathing room.

  59. m September 23rd, 2011 at 12:12 am

    In other news. Florida reliever “Leo Nunez” is not really “Leo Nunez”. The team has put him on the bad boys don’t get paid list and his gone back to the DR. Apparently he’s a year older than he says as well.

    Also, Manny willing to serve suspension. Wants to be reinstated. Rays must be thinking, “Really, Manny? Really?”

  60. CompassRosy September 23rd, 2011 at 12:12 am

    LGY September 22nd, 2011 at 11:45 pm
    Compass Rosy are you out there??

    I have a Mariners related tidbit you might find cool.
    =================================

    I’m here LGY ~

    I was actually just stopping by to give my belated congrats to…
    -Mr. Rivera on 602
    and
    -the Yanks for clinching
    (not that the second thing gives me any great joy, just trying to be a good guest ;-))

    So, whacha got on my M’s?
    Something about our Italian Stalion perhaps?
    Or, the Big Fish?
    Or, possibly the Carolina Connection?

    Lay it on me :-)

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 23rd, 2011 at 12:17 am

    Bret what is so good is that Girardi has options. When you can put your starters in the pen and have them ready for long innings or even a spot start, that’s not a bad thing. And then the backup you have beyond your starters is pretty darned good. I think Girardi’s hardest decision is who to leave behind.

    I can’t imagine Girardi leaving Burnett off the roster, only because Yanks might need him in a pinch and he’s been there and done that. If nothing else it’s an insurance policy, even if you don’t believe he should be in the starting rotation (for those who don’t believe so.)

    Choosing 25 can’t be any easy task for a manager, not when you’ve got veterans involved. By the way, I’m all for veterans because I always feel more comfort with guys who’ve been there before. If you have kids that have gotten you there, then they should be there too (think the year that Melky and Robby helped the team to the postseason and then St. Joe sat Melky for Sheffield, who had been out most of the season but told the press he belonged in there! GRRRR!)

    I know that I will be absolutely in agreement with the 25-man roster, whoever it is, because I have faith in the judgement of the guys who delivered the Yankees as division.

    GO TEAM GIRARDI!!!

  62. m September 23rd, 2011 at 12:17 am

    Rosy,

    We have a weekly circular whose best feature is the supermarket ads, and Brandon League was on it. The caption was that League was one of the players that Seattle wants to build around. I kind of laughed it off, not giving the article even a glance.

    But since you’re “fishing” I found and read the online version of the article. Just talking about how he came out of seemingly nowhere.

    I don’t follow WC baseball too much, but we love our local kids. So, I’ll start paying closer attention to how League is doing.

    http://www.midweek.com/content.....League/P1/

  63. LGY September 23rd, 2011 at 12:22 am

    Rosy

    I was hanging out tonight with some buddies from Australia and I discovered that they went to high school and are good friends with Ryan Rowland Smith.

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