Yankees drop home finale in 14 innings
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 25, 2011 
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The Yankees nearly had the sweep. After six different relievers combined for seven scoreless innings, Scott Proctor allowed a game-winning, three-run home run in the 14th inning, letting the Red Sox get away with a 7-4 win in the second game of today’s doubleheader. The Yankees managed just six hits, and missed their best chances to win when Austin Romine struck out with the bases loaded in the ninth and Brett Gardner struck out with runners at second and third in the 13th. The homer was Ellsbury’s third of the day. He went deep twice in the first game.
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If Girardi pinch hit Jones for Gardner or Arod for Romine they probably would of won. If you are going to make Granderson, Cano and Swisher play 14 innings at least use all of your effort. Now they will be exhausted tomorrow and knowing Girardi he will make the A lineup play.
LGY September 25th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
I would hate Joe Girardi for all eternity if I was a Rays fan.
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If the Rays would have won with their ace on the mound at home against a dead Blue Jays team then they would be tied. These teams put themselves in this position. The Yanks owe them absolutely nothing. I hate using Proctor there after battling so long but I could care less what Maddon, the Rays players, or their 20 fans think.
Sox aren’t in yet.
I hate Ellsbury. And I hate that blind ump McClellan.
Proctor should not be on this team.
Option A: Josh Beckett, Jon Lester, Tim Wakefield, John Lackey
Option B: David Price, James Shields, Jeremy Hellickson, Matt Moore
Honestly, I would choose to face option A in a heartbeat. I’m not too bummed about this Sox “new hope”.
pat September 25th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
“We can all send a great big thank you to Joe Girardi for his unbelievable performance tonight.”
Did Girardi tell the offense to not get a hit in over 2 hours?
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This is much to simplistic a response.
The manager’s job is to put his players and team in the best position to win. Girardi frequently gets an F in that department.
To the team like sux, you shouldn’t give them the 2nd chance.
mark my words, if they meet in ALCS, yanks will be hurt.
Only three runs off lackey. These are the games you play in playoffs and the yanks have been losing them all year
Thankfully Scott Proctor won’t sniff the playoff roster.
gnight all…..frustrating loss…..doesn’t matter at all for the Yanks….but it would have certainly been nice to stomp on the Sox playoff chances.
Noesi, Bartolo next 2 days.
I said to meself, as soon as I heard John & Suzyn mention Proctor, “Uh-oh!”
I just *knew* it was gonna be over.
Why not PH Andruw Jones for Gardner?
That was the game right there.
Jones would’ve mashed the tired lefty.
Daniel-
Overreact much? This is the definition of a pyhrric victory for the Sox….their pen is shot….The Yankees really need to worry about Detroit or Texas first before thinking about wither of these jokers.
That said, I would have gone to Ayala there.
And now the head d’bag, Girardi, gives his usual Pollyana BS. I can’t stand Girardi.
Girardi is the scarecrow… “if I only had a brain”.
“Girardi needs to rest everybody the next 3 games, and I mean everybody..”
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100%
In essence Girardi did, by putting a little league lineup out there in the first place and then failing to pinch hit when he should have.
Embarrassing that the Yankees manager would effectively wave the white flag in a must win game for their chief rivals.
Hughes in the bullpen. I have a feeling there’s more to this & that he’s not 100% on his back or else they would start him even if he’s going to the pen. We don’t have anyone to start on wednesday.
surely you dont think anybody wants to go from now till friday without an ab…
btw, Gardner is a sure out these days.
Wow, we just took two of three from these guys and the worry warts are out in full force. The Sox are not winning the AL. Period.
phil is in the pen for the PS
YM: you said it. Girardi is probably the worst game manager the Yanks have had in 40 years.
Why not Brackman or Ayala there? Proctor is basically a human white flag.
Overthinking everything here. Now if we are worried about injuries etc, I hope he continues to send the b lineup out there against the Rays. If he plays starters after the lineups he posted today and refusing to pinch hit that will be even more ridiculous
With 2 outs and Crawford on deck you have to be more careful to career year loser Ellsbury. Proctor is absolute batting practice and everyone knew it would be hard for him to pitch without giving up a run. All of a sudden Ellsbury goes from a nothing hitter to a 35 homerun guy? I wonder if Ortiz is sharing his “shakes” with him…
Goodnight all
The reality is— that it’s probably better for the Yankees for the Sox to make it.
So big picture, no big deal.
Maybe the Yankees should start Procter on Wednesday.
JobaTipsHisCap September 25th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
btw, Gardner is a sure out these days.
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That’s a bigger problem to me than the loss as a whole. The Yanks need both he and Swisher to contribute or they are going to have some holes in their lineup…
Girardi handled this game VERY poorly.
goodnight, all.
PS: I do hope Tampa wins the next 3
Please. Yankees are playing for nothing. Rays had their chances and blew them. So did the Angels. Give it a rest, and don’t get too greedy here–the baseball gods may be watching.
we have plenty of people who can start a meaningless game wednesday. kontos, betances, noesi, what does it matter?
I agree that Joe did a terrible managing job today. 5 hours of our lives wasted, pretty much due to his decisions.
I honestly don’t understand how it can be overreacting to call out your manager for being a terrible manager.
I don’t care that we’ve wrapped up the division, home field, etc.
It is a way bigger issue than that. Having a bad manager isn’t just something you brush off as it doesn’t matter. Because it does.
Girardi has a seriously negative effect on our games; we win IN SPITE OF HIM, not because of him.
Something happened during the middle of last year that set off a chain reaction turning Girardi into the worst manager in the majors. He is a TERRIBLE in-game manager. Just terrible.
And if you don’t think that something like that can hurt us in the playoffs… Just remember AJ Burnett and Joe’s decision to leave him in last year against Texas. Think that hurt? Think that mattered?
Don’t tell me I’m overreacting. Joe Girardi is a horrendous manager and doesn’t deserve the job he has.
Tar September 25th, 2011 at 11:51 pm
Goodnight all
The reality is— that it’s probably better for the Yankees for the Sox to make it.
So big picture, no big deal.
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Not really. With the way the Yankees have struggled all year against the RS, one of the few teams that the Yankees couldn’t beat, do you really think it would be great for the Yanks to chance facing them?
I hope they tie and have to have a play-in game on Thursday.
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Look, Proctor didn’t ask to be put in the game, nor did he want to go out there and do a bad job. So don’t get mad at him. The game should never have gone 14 innings. If you’re down with the kids staying in, then you have to be down with a game going extra innings and a possibility of losing it in late innings.
We had a better chance of winning when there were runners on base and Girardi could have pinch hit with one of our regulars. His insistence on not doing that was much more harmful, IMO.
So it is what it is.
girardi handled this meaningless game excellently. nobody got hurt and none of the bp guys faces more than what 4 batters? good job!
proctor has 3 more days in pinstripes, who cares about him?
Girardi didn’t give a crap about this game before the first pitch was even thrown. Nor should he have. It’s not his job to to assist one team or another. You do realize they played 2 2/3 games in one day?
People saying that they want Tampa to win the next 3 are killing me. I hope the Yanks crush the Rays these next 3. You never hope for a team to make the playoffs or hope to face a particular team. That’s the team that usually ends up beating you. I remember people on here estatic that the Rangers beat the Rays last year. How’d that work out?
No proctor is a worthless craphead and if had any F’ing dignity at all he’d walk away and F’ing retire. Big fat Scott Meatball Proctor. What a jackass.
check how girardi pencils all his regulars tomorrow….
arod, jones, jeter on the bech for all the 13 innings that mattered
and he wanted to ‘rest’ them…that’s why he played nick, austin romine, grandy, etc. all 14 innings…
if he wanted them to rest he should have tried to win the game. he had plenty of pinch hitting opportunities. Just gave the sux a ‘second chance’ and this WILL COST them in the alcs, assuming they both get there….remember the sux are something like 12 and 7 agasint them this year.
the sux were playing without any hope just wait thill its the playoffs where it’s 0-0 everyone.
Tomorrow and Wednesday are bullpen games for the Yanks. I hope Girardi doesn’t go all out to win them. Let Proctor pitch in all 3 games.
Noesi is going tomorrow, Y’s Guy, you really want him going again on Wednesday? What do you have against Noesi?
yeah, Girardi stinks.
I am sure he will blow some playoff games.
Starting Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday: Scott Proctor’s corpse.
That would be my dream.
“do you really think it would be great for the Yanks to chance facing them?”
Absolutely they would be the weakest of any post season opponent. I would very much look forward to a chance to play the Sox in the post-season.
Captain Clutch September 25th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Tomorrow and Wednesday are bullpen games for the Yanks. I hope Girardi doesn’t go all out to win them. Let Proctor pitch in all 3 games.
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This would be fine with me. Maybe if Procter’s arm falls off we won’t have to ever see him pitching for the Yankees again.
How can anyone even be mad at Proctor?
He is horrible. Just might be the worst reliever in MLB. He has no businesses even being on this team let alone pitching tonight.
That’s on Girardi and Cashman, not Proctor.
Elias, I absolutely refuse to listen to the postgame. I wasted enough time on this game. I’m going to watch some DVRd mindless television.
And I am going to be rooting for the Rays and O’s like I have never rooted before!
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People saying that they want Tampa to win the next 3 are killing me. I hope the Yanks crush the Rays these next 3. You never hope for a team to make the playoffs or hope to face a particular team. That’s the team that usually ends up beating you. I remember people on here estatic that the Rangers beat the Rays last year. How’d that work out?
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the yanks have handled the rays well this year….i’d rather have the rays in there than the sux…
knowing girardi he will want to win each game. this three games should be handled by Scott Proctor. ALL f them
Look, I’m not Girardi’s biggest fan either, but he must be doing something right to win 97 games.
Anybody looking at possible ALCS opponents is thinking way, way too far ahead.
LET’S GO RAYS AND O’s!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok so kontos can start or betances or hell they can bring white ford out of retirement, who the hell cares about who starts wendesday. its a meaningless game.
Absolutely agree. I would rather seeSwisher on the mound than Proctor. Can’t understand why he is on the roster.
AAA lineup vs. the Rays and NO PINCH HITTERS.
Romine-c
Golson-lf
Dickerson-rf
Pena-2b
Gardner-cf
Laird-3b
Nunez-ss
Posada-1b
Eric Chavez-dh
trisha – true pinstriped blue September 25th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Elias, I absolutely refuse to listen to the postgame. I wasted enough time on this game. I’m going to watch some DVRd mindless television.
And I am going to be rooting for the Rays and O’s like I have never rooted before!
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You never root for a particular team to make it in unless it’s the Yanks. If it’s a Yanks-Rays ALCS and the Yanks face Price-Shields-Hellickson-Moore I have a feeling you’re going to deeply regret that.
On the plus side, Montero is hitting .357 .438 .643. Sweet.
The yanks tanked this game. Plain and simple. What makes it beyond moronic is making grandy and cano play all 14 innings. Girardi. You are a moron.
The Yankees have played the Rays well this year. How can you say you would want to play the Sox if you had a choice? If they made it out of the first round it would mean they righted the ship and they have Lester and Beckett against CC and Nova? Sorry on a roll, I wouldn’t like that matchups
Getting mad at Proctor is like taking a broken down POS on a road trip and then getting mad at the car when you end up stranded on the side of the road.
Misplaced anger.
Noesi, Colon, TBA. Hughes out of the pen.
Some of the posters here tonight should go work for ESPN.
Sign Andy Phillips and Bubba Crosby to face the Rays.
Elias, I am rooting AGAINST the Sux. A person’s got to do what a person’s got to do!
Montero on the plus side yes. On the negative side, Girardi will limit his quality at bats for the hope of power from Jones or Posada.
Girardi: “If you ask them (Jete and A-Rod) to get loose, and they pull something, people are REALLY going to say something. I didn’t feel like it was the right thing to do”
Phranchise September 25th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
The Yankees have played the Rays well this year. How can you say you would want to play the Sox if you had a choice? If they made it out of the first round it would mean they righted the ship and they have Lester and Beckett against CC and Nova? Sorry on a roll, I wouldn’t like that matchups
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Yeah and their 3-4 is Wakefield-Lackey. Price/Shields is a pretty good 1-2 also. I would rather play the Sox. I’m standing by that but I’m not going to hope to play either. When you hope to face a certain team, it comes back to bite you. I hope that doesn’t happen here.
Agree, anger at Proctor is misplaced anger.
Why is proctor pitching AT ALL?!? Anywhere?? For anyone?? He should never be allowed to touch a god darn baseball ever again.
Does anyone know who won the season series between the Rays and Sox?
I said it the other night
Texas, Sox, and the Phillies would be my ideal post-season run. I want to settle scores and beat the best.
Rays, handily.
Girardi: “I love Scott Proctor and thought he was going to get Jacoby Ellsbury out. He’s making the postseason roster, I can guarantee you that. Not much he can do now to change my decision.”
ask yourself this, where are they most likelly to use hughes in the PS. the aswer is the bp. so given that, you get him an appearance or two out of the bp before the ps starts. you dont start him wednesday just because he’s around. there are some really really stupid people here. as i said earlier, for alot of people on here, its more important that the socks lose than that the yankees get themselves into the best possible shape for the PS
Rays hold all ties with sox & LAA
I wonder how Cano and Grandy felt about playing 14 innings to just see Scott Proctor sent out with a white flag in tow.
“Does anyone know who won the season series between the Rays and Sox?”
The Rays, handily. My post was in response to your question.
Just play hard and let the baseball gods sort things out. don’t tempt fate these next 3 games.
captain, the rays did but they stil have to play off if they tie
No getting mad at proctor is like getting mad at an idiot who knows he can’t pitch worth a crap anymore and doesn’t have the brain capacity to figure out that he should retire and never pitch again.
First off, just like the Yankees they can try and 3 man rotation and for some reason they couldn’t hit a crappy Lackey tonight I hope because of the lineup. They have produced against the Rays, but more importantly thier pitching has been solid. CC has not been good against the Sox all year. Garcia hasn’t before the last game. Colon hasn’t. But whatever, I am not choosing who we face because it won’t matter, they would need to win the first series. I would just rather the Sox out of the mix.
Juan Miranda should be brought back to face the Rays too. If Scott Proctor is welcome back, everyone else should be as well.
Just hoping the Yankees get great pitching, defense and timely hitting no matter what team they play.
Tyler, but that’s the point. The next three games should not be about playing hard. They should be about resting guys and setting up the rotation. And hopefully they will be.
sunny615,
If I offered you $1 milion to go pitch for the Yankees… You wouldn’t do it? It’s their fault for letting him pitch. Though your post made me laugh.
LGY,
They probably felt the same as we did.
Why would Scott Proctor retire if the Yankees are willing to pay him to blow games?
Would be interesting to see a Rays Sox one game playoff. Both teams would have used their top pitchers. So could you see a Lackey Wade Davis or Niemmann playoff game?
Any truth to the rumor that Tim Redding is getting the start tomorrow night?
‘I wonder how Cano and Grandy felt about playing 14 innings to just see Scott Proctor sent out with a white flag in tow.”
This is not reality.
Ask them how they feel about having the best record in the AL.
I wonder how Cano and Grandy felt about playing 14 innings to just see Scott Proctor sent out with a white flag in tow.
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Granderson, Cano, Tex and Swisher should all get tomorrow’s game off because of their effort tonight lol
Hey Binder Joe, I hear the cubs may be looking for a new manager … Hint
sunny, be fair. Proctor has not allowed runs (that I remember) in the first innings of any games he pitched. Girardi sent him out for a second inning and that’s when he gave up runs.
Tar,
That has everything to do with them and nothing to do with Girardi.
If you think Girardi deserves any credit for this team’s performance this season, you need to seek help.
tricia-
I agree on that. Do what’s best for the Yanks. But I just don’t get a good vibe from all this blow 3 to the Rays stuff.
Tar
What’s not reality?
trisha, Proctor only pitch 2/3 of an inning
If I knew I was going to be a laughing stock on national television and reviled by millions of people – I dunno – is it worth that?? Maybe if I’m like Knoblach.
Well it’s over. I probably wouldn’t be a whit upset if this played out the same way if it was any other team. I know that’s where my ire is coming from.
So I can only hope (again for what I want to see happen) that the Orioles take care of business for three straight games and the Yankees lose at least one of the next three games.
“If you think Girardi deserves any credit for this team’s performance this season, you need to seek help.”
I think there is a lot of over-reaction against Joe for pitching a meaningless pitcher in a meaningless game.
I think the Rays will win 2-3 and the O’s will win 2-3. The Sox will be exhausted tomorrow after playing 23 innings today and Papelbum will probably be available but tired. Go O’s!!!
Niblick you are wrong. Joe Torre was the worst in game manager.
You’re thinking Laffey Trisha. Proctor didn’t last one inning.
Do you think Scott Proctor knows about some affair that Joe Girardi is having (perhaps with Tony Pena)?
Seriously, why else would he be pitching tonight?
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY?
“trisha, Proctor only pitch 2/3 of an inning”
Lock I know that. But I am saying that since in the past he has had success with the first inning he has pitched, it was reasonable to think he could last out at least an inning.
Tar,
His bad decisions tonight go way beyond Proctor.
And his decisions this season go way beyond tonight.
That’s the issue.
I’ve taken all I can stands, and I can’t stands no more.
Night, all. Go O’s!
“What’s not reality?”
That Cano or Granderson are going to be somehow offended that they played 14 innings and than Joe pitched Proctor. Give me break on that one.
Phranchise September 26th, 2011 at 12:05 am
Would be interesting to see a Rays Sox one game playoff. Both teams would have used their top pitchers. So could you see a Lackey Wade Davis or Niemmann playoff game?
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beckett goes tomorrow, so no way the throw him on thurdsay on 2 days rest. not sure when price is already scheduled for wednesday and shields goes tomorrow, so they are both out for a possible playoff, so actually, no they wont be going with their aces in a playoff. Lester is probably going wednesday on 3 days, so he wont be in there either.
it’s safe and fair to say Girardi is a bad manager.
He should manage Cubs.
Sucks for Hughes. I was hoping he would start.
“The manager’s job is to put his players and team in the best position to win”
Over a 162 game season and 11 game postseason not just one game under a microscope.
Sometimes simple is best. You go 2+ hours without scoring a run and your chances of winning aren’t as good as they could be no matter who was managing.
In the past he’s also given up 4 homers in 4 appearances. He also has a 6 era coming into the game. I think it was safe to say he was going to suck.
Would anyone be surprised if Scott Proctor was arrested for extortion after this game?
Seriously, there just has to be something.
trish,
true. I thought he was going to get the last out too.
Oh well… That’s what happens when the offense doesn’t score. I think we had a good chance with Swisher, but
“You’re thinking Laffey Trisha. Proctor didn’t last one inning.”
Sunny, I musn’t have communicated what I was tying to say. I mean that when Proctor has pitched for the Yankees before this, he has successfully made it through one inning without giving up a run (to the best of my memory.) It’s when he has pitched more than one inning that he gives up runs. So based on that, I can see why the thinking might have been that he could last out an inning.
I understand how some of the most valuable guys on the team can go 14 innings but Jeter or Arod could not be “asked to warm up” (and pinch hit).
daniel, he is going to win manager of the year.
Tar
You don’t think that they know what Joe did by bringing in Proctor?
pat,
Do you think that Joe Girardi has put his players in the best position to win this season?
I definitely don’t.
*don’t* understand
Ys Guy,
WHAT? ARE YOU JOKING? Please tell me you’re joking!
“In the past he’s also given up 4 homers in 4 appearances. He also has a 6 era coming into the game. I think it was safe to say he was going to suck.”
It’s not fair to say that if all of that happened when he pitched more than one inning, is all I’m saying. If he went for two tonight (and I’m right about the first innings always being okay) then I could see where you could legitimately make that argument.
My grandmother could’ve done a better job than Proctor. And she’s dead.
“You don’t think that they know what Joe did by bringing in Proctor?”
Did you ever think that maybe they agreed with it.
It’s really not that big of a deal to lose this game.
“I hear the cubs may be looking for a new manager ”
Send in your resume and be the subject of second guessing rather than the second guesser!
So, how many regulars get a day off tomorrow? Cano and Granderson?
The first innings weren’t all ok. He’s been hit hard in all the innings he’s pitched since returning. He just sucks.
im not joking, he is going to win. and he deserves it.
btw, how bad were you screaming when he started posada in the opener? how’d that work out?
I bet they leave Proctor on the tarmac tonight.
Hey, it’s over. Onward and upward. The rest is not our fight to fight. The Rays have to step up and the Orioles have to see what they can do – for those of us who wanted to see the Sux crushed. If that isn’t your desire, then you can probably be okay about the result of tonight, even if not the way it happened.
Daniel in Toronto September 26th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Tar,
That has everything to do with them and nothing to do with Girardi.
If you think Girardi deserves any credit for this team’s performance this season, you need to seek help.
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You must have long and miserable winters with nothing to whine about except the Professional Cancuck Curling League.
Time will tell if this game was a big deal or not.
Tar
To get to the level that Cano and Grandy are at you have to hate losing no matter how meaningless the game is.
“The first innings weren’t all ok. He’s been hit hard in all the innings he’s pitched since returning. He just sucks.”
That’s just plain not true Sunny.
people who grip it too tight are just that way all the time, even when they drop a totally meaningless game after they’ve clinched everything. anybody who’s bent up about this game has no clue about baseball.
Seriously everyone, we have home fields locked down, clinched the division….what else do you want?
Lay off Girardi, if Gardy, Swisher or Romine had just punched a single, these guys would be in FL by now.
“Time will tell if this game was a big deal or not”
I wanted this game BAD. Real bad.
no sunny, for the yankees time already said this was a meaningless game .
like i said people who are gripping it about this game have no clue about baseball
“To get to the level that Cano and Grandy are at you have to hate losing no matter how meaningless the game is.”
I agree to a point. And I think the 14th inning in a meaningless game has reached that point.
No Ys. If the Red Sox win the wc because of this and we meet them in the alcs THEN we’ll see.
Sunny, I just looked and I take it back. He hasn’t had total success in the first inning. You win your case.
you have no way of knowing whether winning or losing this game has any bearing on anything. that is ridiculous. how do you know its not the rays who will win the ws if they get in? the answer is, you dont know and you never will.
The only people that this game mattered to besides Boston and Tampa were the kids from AAA who were trying to win jobs in NY next year. The Yanks got out of the game with nobody hurt and none of the pitchers were stretched too far. Oh..and it mattered to the trolls.
“If the Red Sox win the wc because of this and we meet them in the alcs THEN we’ll see.”
This is what all Yankee fans should hope for.
This really is good night all.
I really hope that the Sox don’t go on to have a good play offs. If so then we will hear about this game forever just like Dave Roberts and his stupid stolen base. With Lester and Beckett at the top anything is possible but I really hope not.
Keep in mind, even if they lost today, the Red Sox would be tied. The Rays would have to win some games anyway. Joe can’t go for the kill when his team had nothing to play for, and not go for the kill against Tampa. Boston has to worry because Girardi has signaled to them how much he is going to play to win down the stretch. My sense is that a lot of the regulars will sit tomorrow, in a game that is pitched by the bullpen. I see the the remaining games split by the regulars. Boston can’t complain that we aren’t trying to win, because we did play all out in this game.
Proctor could not even make it two innings in the blow out win against the O’s. I’d research it but I’m too p.o.’d and tired.
in fact, how do you know that the socks wont lose their wc lead bc paps wont be available tomorrow and maybe tuesday.
Captain, I still truly believe that the Sux are toast. It took them 14 innings to win a game against our AAA lineup. I don’t think they could do anything meaningful in the postseason.
But it still annoys me because I didn’t want them to win any of our games.
In order for Paps to be a factor, they’d have to be winning by 3 runs or less. Against the O’s it probably won’t be. I hope it will but the O’s chances of pulling off what they did in Boston is slim. But hey, who knows?
Er “did not play all out”
Didn’t Girardi get thrown out of the game well before Proctor came in?
“Proctor could not even make it two innings in the blow out win against the O’s. I’d research it but I’m too p.o.’d and tired.”
Yeah don’t even bother.
do people really think that managers dont manage after being kicked out of a game? seriously?
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The way I see it, Robertson, Soriano and Rivera have one inning left in their regular season. They aren’t available tomorrow, and they will pitch in only one of the remaining games. If they need a save on the last day, and all three have pitched the day before we can send our Proctor.