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Posada not completely forgotten

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc, Podcast on Sep 26, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Don’t count Jorge Posada out of the Yankees postseason plans just yet. For most of the past month, Posada was little more than a spectator, but he’s taken advantage of his limited opportunities lately. It’s clear that the Yankees see Jesus Montero as their designated hitter against lefties, but Posada, Montero and Eric Chavez could all factor into the discussion against right-handers.

“This is a guy that has a lot of experience in the postseason, so this could be a good postseason for Jorge,” Joe Girardi said. “I don’t doubt that. If you look at his right/left-handed splits, he’s swung the bat pretty well against right-handers this year.”

It’s true. Despite his ugly overall numbers, Posada is hitting .277/.353/.480 against right-handers. All four of Montero’s home runs have come off righties, but it was Posada who pinch hit for Montero against a right-hander five days ago and got the game-winning hit that beat the Rays. Plus, there’s probably something to be said for Posada’s postseason experience.

“Leading into the playoffs, it feels good that you’re swinging the bat well,” Posada said. “… I just hope that I have a chance to be on (the roster).”

Girardi’s left little doubt that he plans to carry Posada, but Girardi has cut Posada’s playing time significantly. Posada’s made the most of limit at-bats.

Since September 3, Posada is hitting .300 with two home runs and five RBI in eight games. It’s a tiny sample size, but it’s almost the entire month of September for Posada who became a barely used, part-time player. His recent numbers are better than Chavez’s, and Posada’s splits against righties are also better. His home run on Sunday, and the curtain call that followed, were reminders that he could still have an impact in what seemed to be a lost season.

“He’s been swinging the bat pretty well,” Derek Jeter said. “Fans here are outstanding. They appreciate not only everything he’s done in the past, but everything he’s done this year.”

Here’s Posada speaking between games yesterday.

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368 Responses to “Posada not completely forgotten”

  1. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    Sado!! :)

  2. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    the team seems to be kinda rallying around old jorge! i like to see that kind of cohesiveness going into the PS. and i think our boy still has a chapter to write in his yankees career.

    HIP HIP JORGE!!!!

  3. RayVT September 26th, 2011 at 9:08 am

    Betsy September 26th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Years ago the Wash Redskins had 2 QBs (Billy Kilmer & Sonny Jurgenson) with one (Sonny) being much better than the other. When asked why Kilmer was the starting QB, the coach responded with well if Billy fails we can bring in Sonny! Not sure if it would work out the other way!

    So with the Yanks if Phil started & they had to bring in AJ to put out the fire, well maybe it might not work out. But if Phil came in after AJ, well you get my drift!

  4. PittsburghYankeeFan September 26th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Get over it. We Yankee fans are being too greedy. Sure, a sweep would have been nice. The Sox still have to play 3 in Baltimore, with Beckett (either gone or worrying about his new baby), Bedard, and TBA.

    Likely scenario is a tie, with the game being played Thursday in Tampa (Price vs Lester). A preview of what is going to happen with the new format of the WC next year–kind of interesting to watch.

    Then the exhausted team will have to play Texas or Detroit. If they can make it through that, they deserve it.

  5. JM September 26th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Sado will be on the roster and I bet he comes up with at least one more big hit in the postseason.

  6. blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    I absolutely want Jorge’s bat on the bench for the playoffs. Montero will DH vs lefties and then Im guessing Girardi will play the catchups vs RHP.

    Who the Yanks play in the ALDS is going to come down to the wire…..I still think Texas is a better team than Detroit…..but the Yanks catchup better against the Rangers staff. I really don’t care how it works out…..you have to beat whoever you play and the Yanks should beat either of them of they play like they can. Texas is a better matchip against Boston with all that LH pitching.

  7. blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Will Beckett pitch tonight?

  8. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:12 am

    lester will go wednesday on regular rest if they need him. tba is only b/c they dont know if they need him yet. beckett monday and lester wednesday would leave them with wake or lacking on 3 days rest in the playoff game.

  9. JM September 26th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Texas has given Boston fits the past couple of years….a match-up with Detroit will be tough for the Yanks, potentially facing Verlander twice. But if they play as well as they can they will beat anyone.

  10. blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    The Yanks can beat Verlander.

  11. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    what day is this? lester would be going on 3 days rest on wednesday, but that is their only choice if they need that game. neither he nor beckett would be able to start the playoff game

  12. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 9:15 am

    pat

    No one in the Yankee bullpen has innings issues right now.

    In fact, the opposite is true for Betances and Brackman. They are short of where the Yankees wanted them to be.

  13. GreenBeret7 September 26th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    To be perfectly honest about Posada’s numbers, they aren’t much different than Martin’s. Why he’s had so much trouble hitting right handed (his natural side and in the past, his best) is beyond me. Perhaps his left eye (facing pitcher when batting right handed is weak and isn’t seeing clearly out of the eye or it lacks depth perception.

  14. blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    Yea…..because of the rainout on Friday. Lestah would be on 3 days Wednesday. Let’s hope they need to use him. Let’s hope they need him! Then if the Sox make it the earliest he could pitch would be game 3. Becket would have to start game 1 on 3 days rest also

  15. sunny615 September 26th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    They say sight is the first to go when you get older… look at me, I can’t even tell my kids apart anymore… :)

  16. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:19 am

    “blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:18 am
    Yea…..because of the rainout on Friday. Lestah would be on 3 days Wednesday. Let’s hope they need to use him. Let’s hope they need him! Then if the Sox make it the earliest he could pitch would be game 3. Becket would have to start game 1 on 3 days rest also”

    ————————————————————-
    …not if beckett has to come out of the bp for 3 innings on wednesday or thursday to get them into the PS! (insert evil grin winkie!)

  17. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Pitt-

    Why don’t they use tie breakers to decide the WC if 2 teams end w the same record ?

    If they did the Rays would be the WC by virtue of having won the season series over the Sux.

    They trounced them all season.

  18. blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    I don’t see any reason why Ayala wouldn’t have been available last night unless Joe knew that Noesi was starting today and plans on throwing Ayala 2 or 3 innings in todays game.

  19. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    i didnt hear girardi’s postgame bc he did it like 45 seconds after the game ended but someone said he mentioned saving ayala for tonight. im good with that…

  20. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 9:22 am

    The most bizarre thing is that Kevin Whelan wasn’t called up when rosters expanded.

    Granted he was great the first time he was here but he’s a warm body and they didn’t need to add him to the 40 man roster.

    GB

    Do you know if he’s hurt or something?

  21. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    noesi, ayala and scranton/trenton tonight. my prediction that one of brackman, betances or kontos woudl get a win yesterday was a loser (although my prediction of a good game from aj was spot-on) but maybe we see that 1st mlb win tonight.

    i really want to see betances get another shot. he’s got the goods, he was just too intimidated to show it the other night. his motion is really dependant on timing, its a really really slow delivery that puts the batter to sleep then, boom, the ball comes out of his ear and its past you before you wake up. but he really needs to be relaxed to throw that way. he looked so tight the other day it didnt look like him.

  22. sunny615 September 26th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Why are we still talking about the game? It’s over. Lost. The only unanswered question is why Proctor is even on this team. Other than that, water under the bridge.

  23. BD (Boston Dave) September 26th, 2011 at 9:30 am

    Sorry – if your goal was to bury the Sawx (as I’d personally want it to be)…

    You DON’T save Ayala for the Rays game!!

    You save….. Proctor for the Rays game!!

    I know Girardi doesn’t care if the Sox or Rays make the playoffs. But I do dammit!!

    He has the final 3 games to rest everyone. No need to save Ayala instead of Proctor there.

  24. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    proctor = gustavo molina in terms of impact on this team. three years from now someone will mention that proctor was on this team and you’ll go, “oh yeah, proctor was on that team wasnt he? i completely forgot about that” they you’ll add (i wonder if he got a full WS share?)

  25. JM September 26th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    I am OK with him not using Jete or Arod in the second game, but he could have pinch-hit Andruw Jones….it was tough to get any kind of rally going with the hitters they had in there in the late innings.

  26. disco stu September 26th, 2011 at 9:33 am

    It seems like some fans here want the Boston collapse to knock them out of the playoffs because either

    A) as Yankee fans we can rejoice in their misery or
    B) we want them out because once they get into the playoffs they might reboot the way the Yankees did in 2000 and go on a roll.

    Those who are fearful of Boston being in the playoffs are discounting the fact that Tampa Bay would be just as problematic if the Yankees were to meet them in the ALCS. Price, Shields, and Hellickson might be the best starting pitching in the AL playoffs and guys like Longoria, Upton, Zobrist, and Damon are no picnic to get out … plus, the Rays might use Matt Moore out of the bullpen the way they did Price back in 2008 when they went to the WS.

    Bottom line, there is no Minnesota Twins team this time around to beat like a drum so whoever the Yankees face will be stiff competition.

  27. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    “BD (Boston Dave) September 26th, 2011 at 9:30 am
    Sorry – if your goal was to bury the Sawx (as I’d personally want it to be)…

    You DON’T save Ayala for the Rays game!!”

    ——————————————–

    thats just it, the goal was not to bury the red socks, it was to get ready for the PS. the only pepole who are still gripping about last night are people overly concerned with the red socks. fortunately our manager knows this is not his job.

  28. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    Ys guy

    Just curious. Why did you ask last night what my wins prediction was?

  29. BD (Boston Dave) September 26th, 2011 at 9:36 am

    disco stu,

    At least from my perspective, youve missed the point

  30. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am
    I don’t see any reason why Ayala wouldn’t have been available last night unless Joe knew that Noesi was starting today and plans on throwing Ayala 2 or 3 innings in todays game.
    ///

    but here’s the question. If none of these games matter, why is he “saving” Ayala for tonight? Why not have “saved” Proctor for tonight? They’ve pitched him 2 innings before.

    Doesn’t hold up.

  31. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    well, i thought you were pretty down on what happened last night so i was wondering what your expecation for this team was going into the season.

  32. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    JonLaneNYC AL MVP race down to two: IMO Verlander and Ellsbury

    JonLaneNYC Two longtime coaches/managers on hot seat: Francona and Reid. I’d bring back Francona in 2012. Reid’s rope a lot shorter.

  33. BD (Boston Dave) September 26th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Ys Guy,

    And the Yanks have 3 games “off” to get ready for the post season.

    You really think Ayala pitching tonight instead of yesterday and then maybe tomorrow is “getting ready for the postseason” ?

    I don’t see how that matters.

  34. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    j alf, yes it does hold up. the only thing that ‘matters’ is not blowing out the bullpen and getting people the proper rest. going into tonight with noesi and a bunch of guys who all pitched yesterday would not advance that goal. saving one of your guys to go 2-3 innings tonight was spot-on toward the goal of being ready for the PS

  35. BD (Boston Dave) September 26th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    When was the last time Cashman drove up the price for a free agent that the Rays were going after? Or the Angels? Tigers?

    No. He wanted to mess with the Red Sox.

  36. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    It does hold up IMO- Noesi probably won’t pitch too deeply into the game. I have no problem with Girardi saving Ayala for tonight.

  37. pat September 26th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    LGY

    I don’t know what restrictions the coaching staff is working with.

    I believe when Betances was given the call up, Girardi said he was here for experience and he likely wouldn’t be pitching much. I don’t know if anything was said about Brackman.

  38. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    well, i thought you were pretty down on what happened last night so i was wondering what your expecation for this team was going into the season.

    —–

    I never get down on what I expect the overall team to accomplish.

    I spent all winter defending the Yankees against people who thought the Sox were better.

    I predicted them to win the division and score the most runs in baseball. It looks like I’ll come up a bit short on the latter.

  39. randy l. September 26th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    the red sox had a really bad day yesterday because they lost a half game to the rays and they burned their bullpen for tonight against baltimore.

    they are not done until they are done though.

    it’s part of the red sox culture that one victory makes them feel like winners, so sometimes you see them run off little winning streaks just because they think they’re good. of course, one loss makes them think they are losers so let’s hope buck sticks a quick loss on them.

    short of being eliminated, screwing up their pitching staff rotation for the playoffs should weaken them considerably.

    but like i have said the past week, until they have the final stake driven through their hearts, i won’t consider them toast yet. there were some odd signs though that the red sox have some quit in them. adrian gonzalez not running hard on double play balls he hit was kind of odd.

    he doesn’t seem like he thrives under pennant race pressure. he can’t possibly be an mvp candidate with how he’s performed lately when it mattered.

  40. BD (Boston Dave) September 26th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    I wonder if Ellsbury is gonna “Pedroia” the MVP this season….

  41. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    thats just it, the goal was not to bury the red socks, it was to get ready for the PS. the only pepole who are still gripping about last night are people overly concerned with the red socks. fortunately our manager knows this is not his job.
    ///

    YsGuy, I am not “overly concerned” with the Red Sox. From what I’ve read all year from Yankeefem and LGY, neither has indicated, even once, that they are “overly concerned” with the Red Sox.

    For whatever reason, there are people here who seem to suffer acute anxiety whenever the manager’s moves are questioned.

    It’s fairly irrational to keep insisting that the discussion arises from “over concern” with the Red Sox when none of the people “whining” about Scott Proctor coming into that game have ever indicated any such thing.

    It would be nice if some here could not engage in disingenuous discussion and stick to the points being made, rather than play the strawman.

    Could it be that those who are so hypersensitive about Girardi mailing it in by calling on Proctor could be secretly “overly concerned” with the Red Sox, and therefore have to protest too much in the opposite direction?

    Hmmm…one for the psychologists, I guess.

  42. sunny615 September 26th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Griping has one P. When you use two P’s it’s Grip as in “Gripping a baseball bat”.

  43. BD (Boston Dave) September 26th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Agree with Randy.

    I’ve just seen the Sox down and snap out of it quickly enough to consider them a threat until they’re officially dead.

    And it would be so great if the “Dream Team” didn’t even make the playoffs.

    42 out of 42 ESPN analysts picked the Sox to win the AL East. I want those turds to be as wrong as can be…

    …and I’m not gonna apologize for wanting to help push the Sox off the cliff as they’re grasping to stay up.

  44. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Pat

    The 25-year-old Brackman, the Yankees’ first-round pick (30th overall) in the 2007 draft who was signed to a four-year, $4.55 million contract, may well be pitching for his future with the club.

    “He has an option in his contract so we have to make a decision on whethewe’re going to pick it up or not,’’ said Cashman. “He had an awful year as a starter. He’s much different out of the pen. Whether it’s good enough, I don’know. We’ll take a look at him out of the bullpen and see.

  45. pat September 26th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    LGY

    I also think planning and choosing the moments for “young ones” rather than throwing them into the deep end of the pool is prudent if another option is available.

    Pool probably doesn’t get much deeper in the regular season than Sox in extra innings at the Stadium.

  46. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    j alfred, you are just pissed that you paid for a ticket and they lost. and if you are still griping about last night’s loss, than you are difinitely overly concerned with the red socks in my opinion.

    just as you are permitted to question the manager, i am permitted to defend him.

    so you are engaged in a ‘disingenuous discussion and sticking to the ponts being made’ and i am not? please explain.

    i think you are just pissed you paid for a ticket to last night. fortunatly the yankees dont care about that, they have a larger goal in mind.

  47. blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    J alfred,

    I agree with you…..I was just saying that’s likely Girardi’s reasoning.

    I still think there is a fair chance this WC ends in a Rays/Sox tie as I expect Tampa to go full blast and for Joe to really rest his guys for Friday. Showalter will treat all 3 of the games with Boston like Game 7 of the WS

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:40 am
    j alf, yes it does hold up. the only thing that ‘matters’ is not blowing out the bullpen and getting people the proper rest. going into tonight with noesi and a bunch of guys who all pitched yesterday would not advance that goal. saving one of your guys to go 2-3 innings tonight was spot-on toward the goal of being ready for the PS
    ///

    Ys Guy, you keep hollering that the games don’t matter. Why does Ayala have to pitch tonight rather than Proctor? Does tonight’s game necessitate a “better” pitcher than Scott Proctor?? Proctor would have been fresh as a daisy tonight – could have pitched 2-3 innings. Ayala did not pitch yesterday, but he did throw five pitches on Saturday…clearly, he needed to be rested…

  49. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:52 am

    blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:50 am
    J alfred,

    I agree with you…..I was just saying that’s likely Girardi’s reasoning.

    I still think there is a fair chance this WC ends in a Rays/Sox tie as I expect Tampa to go full blast and for Joe to really rest his guys for Friday. Showalter will treat all 3 of the games with Boston like Game 7 of the WS.
    ///

    yea, I know you agree, I saw your earlier comments. A one-off would be hilarious.

  50. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    pat

    This isn’t the first time Proctor was used. It’s become a pattern in his short time here.

    Why is Scott Proctor here while Kevin Whelan is at home? And of course where was Ayala last night?

  51. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    sunny if there were spelling police on here, id be in trouble as would gb, however i used both words over several posts; gripping as in ‘gripping the bat too tight’ to indicate being overly stressed about the game, and griping which is what this board specializes in despite our team’s tremendous success.

  52. blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    Pat,

    The game was meaningless though……now throwing Montero in there against Lester at Fenway a month ago was throwing a kid in the deep end…….a n extra inning game after everything has already been clinched ……not really.

  53. JM September 26th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    I would like to see Arod play in all three games in Tampa, either in the field or DH….his timing still looks off and he needs more ABs before the playoffs.

    As for A-Gon, I really think he’s hurting….

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:48 am
    j alfred, you are just pissed that you paid for a ticket and they lost. and if you are still griping about last night’s loss, than you are difinitely overly concerned with the red socks in my opinion.

    just as you are permitted to question the manager, i am permitted to defend him.

    so you are engaged in a ‘disingenuous discussion and sticking to the ponts being made’ and i am not? please explain.

    i think you are just pissed you paid for a ticket to last night. fortunatly the yankees dont care about that, they have a larger goal in mind.
    ///

    No, to the points I actually made, I am “concerned” that Scott Proctor is even on this team.

    Your intolerance for people criticizing Girardi and Cashman for having Proctor here is what has blown this thing into, your favorite word, a “whine,” only the “whine” has been coming from you.

    Being “pissed” that they didn’t bring in a more competitive arm to have a better chance at a completely winnable game they played for six hours is not something I need to apologize for.

  55. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    here’s why you use proctor there instead of ayala. whoever they threw out there was pretty much going to win or lose the game. no telling how long he might have to pitch. proctor is not going to be on the PS roster so he’s the guy you throw to the wolves.

  56. JM September 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    JAP,

    I feel your pain…I was at the first game yesterday and strongly considered going to the second game. But I had to work earlier than usual today so I decided to pass. Glad that I did….Sorry you had to witness yet another Proctor implosion.

  57. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am

    YsGuy, just want to also say, as for paying for tickets, I’m a full season ticket holder and have been since 2000. LOL, wasn’t too concerned about “paying” for tix.

  58. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    sombody has to stand up for the manager in cheapshotville!

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    JM September 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am
    JAP,

    I feel your pain…I was at the first game yesterday and strongly considered going to the second game. But I had to work earlier than usual today so I decided to pass. Glad that I did….Sorry you had to witness yet another Proctor implosion.
    ////

    JM, LOL. The scourge of Scott Proctor. Only he who feels it, knows it. Was great to be there actually for both games. The DH Wednesday was also a blast. I wish they’d bring back real double headers, the kind where you can stay in the ballpark the whole time. It’s like one game ends and there’s another…too good :D

  60. pat September 26th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    “The game was meaningless ”

    Then why are people still complaining about who pitched the 14th inning?

  61. JM September 26th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    JAP,

    First game was a blast, especially the curtain call for Sado….Yes, good old-fashioned one admission DHs were great although I understand why no one wants to play them these days.

    I was there Thursday for the blow-out by the Rays and watched Proctor give up the two HRs….I figured as soon as I saw him trotting in that it was over.

  62. Bret The Hitman September 26th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    The Rays are getting 3 wins. The only question is, will Boston suffer 2 losses or one loss then a loss in a one-game playoff?

    Regardless, the Rays are getting 3 wins.

    Do I need to repeat myself? ;)

  63. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am
    here’s why you use proctor there instead of ayala. whoever they threw out there was pretty much going to win or lose the game. no telling how long he might have to pitch. proctor is not going to be on the PS roster so he’s the guy you throw to the wolves.
    ///

    I’m not entirely sure how Ayala has somehow become a world beater whose arm we must protect, but him pitching two innings Sunday would not have impacted his ability to pitch on Friday, assuming he’s on the roster.

  64. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    you protect ayala’s arm more than proctor’s because he is more likely to be on the PS roster.

  65. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    JM, Procs is like the anti-Mariano.

    When either enters, you know the game is over ;).

  66. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Ys Guy, we have some common ground; I agree that Ayala is more important.

    However, there are four days between last night’s and Friday’s. Even CC can pitch on 3 days rest, but Ayala can’t give us an inning on four? If all goes well Friday, Ayala isn’t seeing that game. Please.

  67. Bret The Hitman September 26th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Proctor gives me bad flashbacks. It’s too bad the team is so hypersensitive about putting rookies into situations like last night. Would rather have seen Brackman or Betances there.

  68. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    you protect ayala’s arm more than proctor’s because he is more likely to be on the PS roster.

    ——————–

    How is saving Ayala for tonight protecting his arm?

  69. Bret The Hitman September 26th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    The pressure is on Boston to sweep the spoiler O’s. They won’t get any help from NYY. 3 wins for the Rays, coming right up! :)

  70. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Kontos has looked good in his short time here. At least him and Ayala should have been used before Proctor.

  71. Mgumpher September 26th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    The game certainly wasn’t meaningless. To listen to the media talking right now, the Red Sox are back, the whole season turned around last night on the incredible plays by Pedroia and the MVP bat of a juiced up Ells.

    The media is giddy over the 14th inning win the RS had. They are bringing up every come back image they can conjure up.

    This is the biggest reason why the win would have been so good last night. The other reason is because if the Yankees hadn’t sucked in just about every series against the Red Sox, the Red Sox would already be out of the WC race.

    Girardi wimps too much. He justifies his lack of backbone with Pollyana answers, but he just backs off too much and breathes new life into rivals.

    The only good thing about last night was that it burned out the pen of the RS, even though Edes is making it sound as if everyone is still available. And all their players played both games.

  72. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:37 am
    blake September 26th, 2011 at 9:20 am
    I don’t see any reason why Ayala wouldn’t have been available last night unless Joe knew that Noesi was starting today and plans on throwing Ayala 2 or 3 innings in todays game.
    ///

    but here’s the question. If none of these games matter, why is he “saving” Ayala for tonight? Why not have “saved” Proctor for tonight? They’ve pitched him 2 innings before.

    Doesn’t hold up.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    The reason why many of us find Girardi’s post-game comments ludicrous is that he knows what he did doesn’t make sense and tries to come up with a “valid” excuse. You can drive holes through most of what he says because he can’t defend the indefensible.

    Those that want to say what he did last night makes sense, go right ahead. But either you are trying to win the game or rest the players. He goes at it half-baked and that’s where he gets slammed.

  73. Chambliss September 26th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    The Sox will be running on fumes tonight.

    I would have liked to have seen A-Rod pinch hit last night against the lefty, even if it meant playing someone out of position. His timing is not right and he needs at bats under pressure.

  74. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Girardi wimps too much.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    Good observation. And I bet it drives the real competitors on the team nuts.

  75. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Can you imagine this board today if Proctor had trotted out of the bullpen for the Sox last night?

    It would be a steady stream of jokes about how pathetic the pitching depth is in the Sox organization that they needed to sign Scott Proctor.

    The guy has no business being in the major leagues, let alone on the New York Yankees.

  76. Bret The Hitman September 26th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Is there a single good reason for the Yankees to play and expose an impact player during these final three games? I don’t think so. Girardi told these guys they’re on vacation. He told that to Jeter, Arod, Martin and Jones last night after the first game. That’s why you didn’t see any of them pinch hit in the second game. They’re on vacation until the playoffs. Girardi will play the scrubs against the Rays but no one can say he’s tanking it because he played the scrubs in that final game against the Sox. That was just a preview of how he’ll handle the Rays. You’ll see Proctor.

  77. JM September 26th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    This image comes to mind when I think of Proctor (courtesy of the folks at “It is High…):

    http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....minor.html

  78. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:08 am
    JM, Procs is like the anti-Mariano.

    When either enters, you know the game is over .

    ~~~~~~~~~

    Kinda sad, too, but funny.

  79. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    Wow. LoHud has a serious case of the Mondays going on.

  80. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    i think joe decided when he went to proctor that whoever he put in was pretty much going to finish the game and might have to pitch 3 innings or more. not wanting to go to the minor leaguers, he decided to go with proctor so he could use noesi to ayala tonight.

    you dont have to agree with that thinking, but that seems to be where the manager was going with. 97 wins and counting, a bp which is on fire and a team that is peaking heading into the playoffs seems to indicate that he might just have a clue what he is doing. (not to mention a WS ring as manager and a MOY)

  81. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    JM September 26th, 2011 at 10:16 am
    This image comes to mind when I think of Proctor (courtesy of the folks at ?It is High?):

    http://johnsterling.blogspot.c…..minor.html

    ************************

    :lol:

  82. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    I am writing this post without having looked at any posts this morning because I don’t want to get sidetracked. tomingeorgia very nicely told me last night (in response to something another poster had posted to me) that nobody likes to be constantly be told “I told you so”, something which quite frankly I should have been able to figure out myself. Not to make excuses but I had been chided constantly about my criticsm of the Sux by a poster who appears to no longer be here. He chose to make that point to me of course when the Sux were in first place and playing well. I never wavered from my belief that they would come to no good no matter what place they were in. And I still believe that despite their win last night. So when they started their descent I started my dance for joy. Make no mistake, I would have been crowing loudly anyway. But that poster’s continued nastiness toward me probably caused some escalation. Anyone with any time on the forum knows how I feel about that team, so my overt glee would have been there. But I guess I’ve gotten carried away and in my exuberance have well overdone it with “I told you so.” So I apologize to anyone and everyone I may have annoyed and/or offended by doing so.

  83. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 10:17 am
    J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:08 am
    JM, Procs is like the anti-Mariano.

    When either enters, you know the game is over .

    ~~~~~~~~~

    Kinda sad, too, but funny.
    ///

    Wang, anyone but Scotty and we probably win the game. I also don’t get why Andruw couldn’t pinch hit somewhere in there. I understand not using Jete/ARod, but Jones could have pinch hit against Morales.

    He could have competed better, I agree, and have been less half-assed about it without compromising anyone. Maybe a knock by Andruw wins it earlier, and Cano, Granderson, Nick & Gardner don’t have to stand around for 14 innings…

  84. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    Chambliss, ARod does need to get his timing down, but because he has knee/hip/thumb issues and is 36, they probably didn’t want to play around with that. I don’t think they should have, either.

    ANDRUW JONES! KILLER of LHP! AGAINST MORALES!

    I would have done that.

  85. Bret The Hitman September 26th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    In honor of Doreen, let’s play guess-the-lineup!!!

    Gardner-cf
    Nunez-ss
    Montero-dh
    Posada-1b
    Laird-3b
    Dickerson-rf
    Golson-lf
    Pena-2b
    Romine-c

  86. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    My apologies if this has already been posted- just a little Monday AM levity

    The coolest drinking buddies in MLB

    http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....n-baseball

  87. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    ok im good with that, i think we all hope there was no reason to ‘save’ ayala last night b/c he wont really be needed in any important situations in the PS. and im sure we all thing that proctor shouldnt be on the PS roster. it seems like the only disagreement really was how to weigh the ‘meaning’ of last night’s game. any contact with the red socks brings emotion into the picture no matter how much you try not to.

    im good with what joe did, and yes, i trust him and therefore tend not to go crazy over each little move he makes. there are many ways to get a job done and judging by the success of the team, he is doing a very good job. by no means do i agree with everything he does but i try to step back and look at the overall job based on results and by that standard he has earned my trust.

  88. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    Bret

    Gardner played 17 innings yesterday.

  89. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:10 am
    you protect ayala’s arm more than proctor’s because he is more likely to be on the PS roster.

    ——————–

    How is saving Ayala for tonight protecting his arm?
    ////

    ???……scratcheshead…….

  90. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    People sometimes confuse their bloodlust for the Sux with the actual importance of individual games towards achieving a goal IMO.

    I have a severe case of the former. I plain just can’t stand the Sux and I am not shy about admitting it.

    Humiliating them as much as possible is always extra sweet. Icing on the cake.

    I don’t blame people either way for their feelings. It’s just as natural as breathing.

    Girardi OTOH has somewhat different concerns. I doubt it’s personal for him. He’s being strategic in his thinking. Big picture mode.

    I also think it’s perfectly reasonable for people to question moves made by our Manager when they seem to not make sense.

    Things to remember are that Girardi has a more complete picture, and that he after all only human and does make errors.

    Whatever we think he’s the one who has gotten us this far. So there’s that.

    :)

  91. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Wang, anyone but Scotty and we probably win the game. I also don’t get why Andruw couldn’t pinch hit somewhere in there. I understand not using Jete/ARod, but Jones could have pinch hit against Morales.

    He could have competed better, I agree, and have been less half-assed about it without compromising anyone. Maybe a knock by Andruw wins it earlier, and Cano, Granderson, Nick & Gardner don’t have to stand around for 14 innings…

    ~~~~~~~~~~

    Totally agree.

  92. Bret The Hitman September 26th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    LGY,

    Gotta rest Granderson and Swisher though.

  93. Jerkface September 26th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    John Lackey divorces his cancer-riddled wife. Good guy, that Lackey.

  94. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Bret

    How about Golson in CF and Andruw in LF?

  95. 86w183 September 26th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Trisha — no apologies needed — lotsa people here need to learn to lighten up — every disagreement tends to spiral into character assassination for no reason.

    The giardi angst here today is comical. When you don’t NEED wins you manage a game very differently. Ayala and Kontos pitched Saturday. Joe didn’t play regulars in both games yesterday and obviously didn’t want to pitch guys on consecutive days. so what?

    Girardi has managed the Yanks to the best record in the AL and the best run differential in all of MLB.

    Yet he’s an idiot and a wimp.

    Please

  96. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    the yankees scratched out one run from the 2nd inning on and since joe had already shown that he wasnt going to use arod/jeter, how can you say that anyone but proctor and we win? when did ayala/kontos/brackman etc become sure winners (especially when backed by the trenton thunder lineup)

  97. Bret The Hitman September 26th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    LGY,

    Shields is on the mound. Jones doesn’t need more practice/prep for righties, does he? Maybe.

  98. blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    “John Lackey divorces his cancer-riddled wife. Good guy, that Lackey.”

    We can’t speculate on the circumstances…..but on the surface of seems like a rotten thing to do and the timing is poor from a baseball perspective.

    Pat,

    It was meaningless for the Yankees as in there shouldn’t have been a ton of pressure ….It was very important for the Red Sox.

  99. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    Bret

    I’m just saying that Gardner had a really long day of baseball yesterday. I’d be surprised to see him in the lineup tonight.

  100. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Alden_Gonzalez Don’t look now, but Rafael Soriano’s ERA at 3.52 on the year (and 1.20 since 8/26). Could be a huge weapon in the #postseason. #Yankees

  101. blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    Girardi managed the game to win last night up to a point…..he is and always will be a guy that focuses more on health or the club than winning the game that day. Giraddi would never have abused Bard the way he’s been ……he would lose the game first. That’s a good thing big picture.

  102. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    i have to say, yes i wanted the yankees to win and yes i like to see the red socks humiliated whenever possible and i was licking my lips when we had a 3-0 lead.
    what really got me going was just that after such a successful weekend in the last week of a great regular season people started coming out of the woodwork to call our manager an idiot, clueless a wimp and more.

    have some respect for the job the guy has done and give him some credit.

    diagree with him, fine, but calling him an idiot and questioning his commitment to yankees success is way unfair and i felt someone had to step in and defend our leader.

  103. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    I sure hope GGBG has a great PS with the bat, and if not a much better one next season.

    I’m sorry to say this but his #’s this year offensively have been underwhelming.

    Now please don’t get on my case because I like GGBG.

    I understand that he helps the team in other important ways.

    I want that O up. Hear me Bret.

    ;)

  104. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Varitek is questionable for tonight.

    Beckett may have to pitch without his binky.

  105. Mgumpher September 26th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Girardi will have to play some of the veterans. He won’t sit all of them, as they need to play to stay game ready.

    With the starter being Noesi, I can see it being a BP night. With a somewhat depleted, but not empty lineup.

    What is bothersome about last night’s game is it has become far too common with this Yankee team that they score early then check out and if it goes to extra innings, it is more likely to be a loss than a win. That isn’t a comforting thing to think about for Yankee fans.

    Rarely come from behind wins. Rarely put up offense during late innings of games. Rarely win extra innings games.

  106. blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Yea….Soriano rounding into form is a huge development…..add Hughes in there and the Yanks pen is potentially very very good heading into the postseason.

    I hope Montero plays today just to give me reason to watch…..I expect him to catch at east one of these games to tine him up for emergency work if needed.

    Boston Has to win tonight…..Tampa has a good shot at winning tonight with Shields and Joe will likely rest a lot of guys after the long day yesterday …..

  107. Yank 97 September 26th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    Yesterday was probably the worst loss of the season.

    Girardi had a chance to eliminate our biggest threat to winning the AL pennant and decided to half-heart it. If the Sox make it out of the first round, this could be something that haunts him forever.

    Though to be fair, there is a reason the team is like 1-8 at home in extra inning games, their offense just goes cold for many many innings.

  108. blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    My ideal scenario would be for the Sox and Rays to tie…..id love that one game playoff at the Trop

  109. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    Lost in the Proctor discussion was the 1B play of Brandon Laird. I’m sure there were kudos given in the game thread, but I wasn’t in there, so I just want to say, very nice job by the kid.

  110. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 10:50 am

    Dog walk time.

    Back later. Play nice.

  111. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    question: if you could pick any of leyland, tito, maddon or girardi, who would you chose for this year’s playoffs?

    i like leyland, but i think he’s past his prime. i love tito but i think he’s kinda lost his ability to get the socks going. i like maddon but his talent is pretty specific to the rays kind of game. i don’t think too highly of washington, but the results are there.

    ill take our guy.

  112. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Ys Guy, who called Girardi an “idiot” and a “wimp?” Everything here gets conflated. Refer to the appropriate poster when making such comments. I don’t think those of us who reside in Strategyville are the same ones who live in Cheapshotville. You need to differentiate rather than make blanket statements.

  113. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Is there any chance that the Yankees will DFA Scott Proctor, or some other fringe reliever, today and add one of Phelps, Warren or Banuelos? The truth of the matter is that the 14 inning game did a number on the pitching staff and, with Noesi pitching today for 3-4 innings and the Yankees needing a starter for Wednesday, it would be wise to prune some of the worthless arms from the 40 man roster and add one of the youngsters.

  114. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    golson also made a couple of nice running catches in RF that swish would not have gotten near. great break on the ball and a perfect route actually made both catches look a little easier than they could have been. that kid can play him some OF.

  115. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    MTU September 26th, 2011 at 10:45 am
    I sure hope GGBG has a great PS with the bat, and if not a much better one next season.

    I’m sorry to say this but his #’s this year offensively have been underwhelming.

    Now please don’t get on my case because I like GGBG.

    I understand that he helps the team in other important ways.

    I want that O up. Hear me Bret.
    ////

    MTU, I know you are speaking generally, but I don’t understand how Girardi let Brett hit against Morales. He was throwing 96 and the obvious move was on the bench. Can’t expect Brett to get a hit there. Not really a good matchup for him.

  116. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    no chance they bring in those guys who have been sitting home for 3 weeks, imo.

  117. Eroc September 26th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Rays have a significant pitching edge in these 3 games… Shields-Hellickson-Price… and if there is a play-in game, it will be one of Wakefield/Bedard/Weiland on the road against Moore.

    As bad as yesterday was, Sox are not out of the woodwork yet. To be safe, we need Tampa to sweep us.

  118. blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    Why isn’t Warren or Phelps up? Are they up against innings issues or something?

  119. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:49 am
    My ideal scenario would be for the Sox and Rays to tie…..id love that one game playoff at the Trop.
    _____
    This. :)

  120. bdog375 September 26th, 2011 at 10:55 am

    I have a feeling Posada is going to go out Matsui style, a la the 2009 W.S.!

  121. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    blake, Warren and Phelps are only along for the ride, but neither will pitch.

  122. blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    If Boston loses tonight I think it ends in a tie. I think tonight will decide it…..

  123. blake September 26th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Yankeefem,

    Why?

  124. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    How about Big Game James actually have a Big Game for once?

  125. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Pruf, yes, Laird made some great plays at 1B. And he also looked pretty competent at 3rd. His D has improved.

  126. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    “yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 10:52 am
    Ys Guy, who called Girardi an “idiot” and a “wimp?” Everything here gets conflated. Refer to the appropriate poster when making such comments.”

    ————————————-
    i dont feel any need to go cite where anybody called girardi an idiot or a wimp because:

    a) it happens all the time and there were several who used that exact word last night and
    b) several others have already commented on the fact that several called him an idiot and a wimp

    if you dont believe that people used that term, than check it out yourself.

  127. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:00 am

    blake, they aren’t on the 40-man.

  128. pat September 26th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    “I don’t think those of us who reside in Strategyville are the same ones who live in Cheapshotville. ”

    They both seem to border on the city of Overreactionville though.

  129. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    I don’t disbelieve it YS Guy. I just find the conflation here difficult to stomach or navigate through. But that’s just me.

  130. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Happy Birthday Little Dante :)

    SIYanks @Dante19jr Happy 19th Birthday to the @Yankees 2011 1st Rd pick Dante Bichette, Jr.!!!

    FakePeteGammons Still basking in the warm glow of gritty gutty #Redsox victory over big bad #Yankees last night. David beat Goliath again & order restored!

    FakePeteGammons If Jacoby Ellsbury isn’t given the MVP I will go on TV/Radio & yell loudly! This is Peter Gammons.

  131. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    yf, i will throw you this bone: the word idiot appears 10 times in last night’s postgame post. (9% if the comments contained the word)

  132. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    Yankeefem,

    That could be easily fixed though…..

  133. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    pat, it is all a matter of perspective. One attends a game or watches it, and then discusses/analyzes said game. I wouldn’t call it overreaction but discussion, no?

  134. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    pat, how is discussing baseball “over reacting”?

  135. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:06 am

    FakePeteGammons 6 mins Still basking in the warm glow of gritty gutty #Redsox victory over big bad #Yankees last night. David beat Goliath again & order restored!

  136. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    fran_cervelli “Thank you to all of my fans for sending me encouragement. @Yankees fans are the best in the world!”

  137. pat September 26th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    If Warren, Phelps and Banuelos were slated to just be observers they might not have even been throwing the last month.

  138. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    blake, I don’t think Phelps is the answer right now. He has been injured this year and I am not sold on his stuff, especially out of the pen. Warren might be useful down the road, but not right now. Plus he has already pitched 152 innings.

  139. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    overreaction is calling the manager an idiot for putting proctor in. discussion is saying you didnt like the move.

    jap was firm on his side of the discussion that he didnt like the move. i was firm in defending the managers move. discussion, not overreaction.

    others were way over the top in overreacting.

  140. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am

    Here’s an idea: contribute to the discussion instead of taking swipes at people who are having it. It’s a Yankee discussion board.

  141. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    Yea Im sure that Warren, Phelps ect aren’t options now as they haven’t been doing anything…..my question was the process of going with the Proctors of the world instead of getting prospects experience in that role……I’ve heard several times from Cashman himself that Warren could be a factor next year. Now if its innings related then thats understandable.

  142. upstate kate September 26th, 2011 at 11:10 am

    c’mon people lets have some perspective here:
    Yankees won the AL east, have HFA and are now in a position to rest guys and getting ready for the PS.
    Yankees won 2 of 3 from the red sox. sox won the last game in 13 innings w/ their A lne up against a AAA team and a washed up pitcher. To do that, the sox had to blow up their BP, where the Yankee BP will all be available.
    I stand by my thought that Girardi is an evil genius.

  143. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    blake, I don’t think Phelps is the answer right now. He has been injured this year and I am not sold on his stuff, especially out of the pen. Warren might be useful down the road, but not right now. Plus he has already pitched 152 innings.

    ============================================

    I’m not looking for someone to win one of the Tampa games for us…I’m only looking for someone who can throw 3-4 innings either today or Wednesday so that we don’t have to use/overuse any of our postseason relievers in those meaningless games.

  144. Joe from Long Island September 26th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    Good morning –

    I went to bed after the 13th inning ended, so I (fortunately) missed Scott Proctor losing the game. But, really, the game’s result meant nothing to the Yankees. If it had, Joe would not have used Proctor. In fact, I wouldn’t put it past Joe that he used Proctor there because he wanted to end the game and get to Tampa before much later.

    Heck, Joe likely would have taken out Nova while he still had the lead.

    randy is spot on – the Red Sox have problems with a shot bullpen, and likely no Varitek, possibly for the rest of the season. If LGY was right last night, AGon is playing with a bad leg.

    Tampa is no walk in the park, so I’m hoping for a playoff betweeen them on Thursday, something that goes, oh, say……. 15 or 16 innings. At least.

  145. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:12 am

    i dont think any of those pitchers are going to fall instructional, and if not, they were likely ordered to shut it down for the winter. you cant pull them back now and tell them to get ready. especially after you’ve clinched hfa.

  146. Joe from Long Island September 26th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Heck, Joe likely would have taken out Nova while he still had the lead.

    If Joe had really wanted to win the game, that is.

  147. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    jpb173, after Ayala, we still have Brackman and Betances in the pen. Also isn’t Hughes available to pitch today?

  148. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    Over-reacting. Translation: A gerund used to slam folks that don’t share others’ vaunted opinion.

    The blog is about sharing differing opinions, but some on this blog, still don’t get that. Instead, you get called names by others which is completely lame.

  149. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:15 am

    Joe from Long Island September 26th, 2011 at 11:12 am
    Good morning –

    I went to bed after the 13th inning ended, so I (fortunately) missed Scott Proctor losing the game. But, really, the game’s result meant nothing to the Yankees. If it had, Joe would not have used Proctor. In fact, I wouldn’t put it past Joe that he used Proctor there because he wanted to end the game and get to Tampa before much later.

    ==============================================

    Those were my thoughts too. But watching Proctor it was obvious that his arm is still hurting. Whenever he threw a breaking ball he reacted as though he was throwing a shotput. I was glad to see the game end quickly but it was painful just watching Proctor throw the ball.

  150. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    I went to bed after the 13th inning ended, so I (fortunately) missed Scott Proctor losing the game. But, really, the game’s result meant nothing to the Yankees. If it had, Joe would not have used Proctor. In fact, I wouldn’t put it past Joe that he used Proctor there because he wanted to end the game and get to Tampa before much later.

    ~~~~~~~~~

    If that’s the case, why beat around the bush? Put Proctor in after Nova and get out of there at a decent hour.

  151. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    blake, I think it is more an innings and readiness factor. I am not sure what the story is with Whelan although he can have control issues. Or we could have picked up someone else with a live arm rather than Proctor’s with his BP FB… Like a Cory Wade rescued from the heap pile… There are better choices out there than Proctor…

  152. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    can you imagine how cashman and co would be crucified if they started banuelos up now and he got injured? and rightly so. there is no chance of that happening. in fact i think they didnt put him on the roster for fear that he would do well enough to tempt them to put him on the PS roster and really take a chance at hurting him, longterm.

    just pretend you never heard of manny till the season is over…

  153. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    JM’s link may be close to the truth. Cash felt sorry he allowed Torre to abuse Proctor, and he wanted to compensate him somehow. Has the karmic debt been paid now? Can we please move on?

  154. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 26th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    So it will be fun to watch the O’s go all out to keep Boston out of the playoffs, while the Yankees keep playing mostly AAA players against the Rays, who will be going all out to win or tie for the WC. I would say it is a virtual LOCK that the Rays get the best of these last 3 games and either win the WC outright OR force the 1 game playoff. Either way, the WC team will be smoked in round 1 and the Yankees are headed for #28 ! :-)

  155. PittsburghYankeeFan September 26th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    MTU

    They have to play a tiebreaker game when one team is eliminated as a result. Same thing as the 78 Yanks/Sox extra game, or the Rockies WC game a few years ago.

    Sox are still dead.

  156. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:14 am

    jpb173, after Ayala, we still have Brackman and Betances in the pen. Also isn’t Hughes available to pitch today?

    ===============================================

    Yeah I think that Hughes is available but only as a reliever (one inning). Noesi will only be able to give them 3-4 innings today and the Yankees probably won’t push Colon more than 5 innings tomorrow. On Wednesday they will need to fashion at least 8 innings from pitchers who will not be on the postseason roster. I think the total innings for the next 3 days is more than we Noesi, Colon, Ayala, Brackman and Betances can handle. Also I hope that none of the next 3 games goes to extra innings.

  157. LGY September 26th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    The Whelan thing is very strange.

    They added him to the 40 man roster, gave him two chances before sending him back down to the minors, and didn’t call him back up when rosters expanded.

    If he’s healthy there’s no reason for him to be home right now.

  158. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    I like that Cash signed Proctor. It’s not like Cash to be sentimental, but if feeling sorry that the Yanks abused his arm was one of his motives, then good for Cash.

    But do we really have to use him so much?

  159. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    If the Sox lose tonight I don’t think they’ll make the playoffs.

  160. pat September 26th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    “It’s insane and immoral to make Cano, Granderson, Swisher and Gardner play nearly two games’ worth of innings and then throw a lit match on them.”

    Sorry, attaching morality to choice of 14th inning pitcher reads a tad over-emotional and reactionary to me.

  161. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    YS Guy, there is no way you start up any of those three now. No one wants Manny to pitch at this point. That would be ludicrous.

    I think blake was questioning the inclusion of Proctor in the first place and that you could have had a better, younger arm in there from the get-go vs. a Proctor, even if that RP is playing a cleanup role. Maybe give someone in the system low leverage experience… But we chose to go a different route.

  162. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:18 am

    JM’s link may be close to the truth. Cash felt sorry he allowed Torre to abuse Proctor, and he wanted to compensate him somehow. Has the karmic debt been paid now? Can we please move on?

    =================================================

    Exactly!!! If Cashman wants he can sign Proctor next spring to a minor league deal if he wants to give him another chance. But right now Proctor’s arm is still hurting and should be shut down.

    By the way, Proctor gets his full pay even if they DFA him. And the Yankees could still vote him a partial world series share if they want.

  163. Abomb82 September 26th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    Girardi can still make up for his blunder yesterday by ensuing that his team doesn’t win another game the rest of the regular season.

    I hope he realizes that getting swept is a good thing and should be a goal of his.

    He is playing with fire if he doesn’t take this chance to knock Boston out (or force them into a 1 game tie with TB) and it will come back to haunt him – doesn’t it always?

    I mean, this thing is set-up on a silver platter for Tampa their 3 best pitchers against Colon in 1 game and the underbelly of our bullpen in the other 2. But still, Joe needs to do his part as well to make sure he doesn’t try to win this.

  164. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    pat September 26th, 2011 at 11:24 am
    “It’s insane and immoral to make Cano, Granderson, Swisher and Gardner play nearly two games’ worth of innings and then throw a lit match on them.”

    Sorry, attaching morality to choice of 14th inning pitcher reads a tad over-emotional and reactionary to me.
    ///

    Really??? It was a metaphor. We don’t have emoticons for tone here. Gimme a break.

  165. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    The Sox will need 2 of 3 in Baltimore …..with the pitching match ups and with the Yankees resting guys you’d expect Tampa to take 2 or 3 this weekend.

    If the Yanks lose the series or get swept and it costs Boston the playoffs……I think the fallout will be very interesting…..will the media accuse the Yankees of tanking it to keep Boston out?

  166. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    Joe-

    “Heck, Joe likely would have taken out Nova while he still had the lead.”

    I wish he would have. Or especially right after the double of the next frame.

    Joe may not have had any sweat about winning last night but I really wanted young Ivan to hold the all time Yankee record for most consecutive victories by a rookie.

    That would be one hell of an achievement to add to an all ready great season.

    Well. I guess I’ll have to settle for ROY.

    ;)

    Pitt-

    Thanks for the response. Hope you are well.

  167. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    pat,

    & as for moralizing, I couldn’t touch you in that department ;).

  168. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    ah, come on, pat. that’s just “fan-speak”. (fan – short for fanatics). if you can’t get all riled up over your team, what fun is it?

    let’s make allowances for personality. some are just more placid. nothing wrong with either approach.

  169. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    there is so much we don’t know about the inner workings on a team. did ayala have a migrane or a tender elbow yesterday, is whelan a headcase? how’s arod’s knee and thumb? the manager knows so much we dont and im quite sure sometimes takes a beating over things that he had no control over but kept silent about for the longterm good.

    thats one reason why i tend to accept giradi’s decisions even when i may have gone the other way.

    ..oh and there’s the divison championship, the hfa, 30+ years of baseball experience, the rings and that moy….

  170. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    LGY September 26th, 2011 at 11:21 am
    The Whelan thing is very strange.

    They added him to the 40 man roster, gave him two chances before sending him back down to the minors, and didn’t call him back up when rosters expanded.

    If he’s healthy there’s no reason for him to be home right now.
    _____
    I assume control issues although much improved in the minors this year.

  171. pat September 26th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    Calling Girardi insane and immoral is a metaphor for what?

  172. Eroc September 26th, 2011 at 11:28 am

    “It’s insane and immoral to make Cano, Granderson, Swisher and Gardner play nearly two games’ worth of innings and then throw a lit match on them.”

    —————–

    Maybe if one of those 3 decided to get a big hit in the numerous chances they had, we wouldn’t have been subjected to Proctor, it works both ways.

    There is a reason the team has a dreadful home extra inning record – none of their big bats can get a big hit. The Anti-2009 team.

  173. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Blake-

    Who give’s a rat’s rear what the talking heads will say. Since when did they ever matter ?

    If Boston is out it’s all good. Sweet as honey.

    ;)

  174. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    86w183 – thanks.

    ;)

    The ONLY thing that will take the sting of last night away for me is seeing the Sux lose it all at the last possible minute and never snifff the postseason. Otherwise I am going to be really miffed that Girardi did not play to win by using pinchhitters when he had the chance or going with other than Proctor for the win.

    I ADMIT this is all about wanting to see the Sux and their fans suffer, nothing more nothing less. If last night’s game had been against any other team – and there were no implications that a Yankee loss would have helped the Sux – I wouldn’t probably even be participating in the discussion, or I would have no had problem with Proctor coming in, defending Girardi by saying his bigger responsibility was to the team, yada yada yada. BUT THAT IS NOT THE CASE AND I AM NOT HAPPY!

    GRRR!!!!

  175. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    This site does make me think of the Joe Girardi Show. That’s why I don’t have to watch it, I get enough of that fluff right here in between comments that actually target the games rather than other posters.

  176. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    I don’t want Manny setting foot on a big league field until he’s thrown 175-180 innings at SWB and he’s ready…..maybe a sept call up start late next year or something…….he’s the guy they need to nail the development with. Let him build his innings…..polish up…..and come up when he’s 100% ready.

  177. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    MTU

    Im just interested :)

  178. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    blake, I believe they have no intention of rushing Manny.

  179. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    Blake-

    Got to treat your Ferrari right.

    :)

  180. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    This site could use some “tone” emoticons. ;)

  181. Wang IS Taiwan September 26th, 2011 at 11:33 am

    trisha,

    I’m with you on wanting to win because I wanted to crush the Sux hopes.

  182. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    Blake-

    That’s cool. Everybody’s different. I just can’t stand stuff like Jerry Springer, and I don’t particularly like to see train wrecks.

    Unless of course it involves Boston. That’s an exception.

    ;)

  183. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    blake the one good thing that came out of last night is that if (fingers crossed) we lose in Tampa and are accused of tanking to help the Rays, someone will at least be able to say that if it were the case that the Yanks were trying to usher the Sux out of the series, Girardi would have played last night to win and would have made moves that would have appeared to show he wanted the game!

  184. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 26th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    I am sure this has made the rounds, but all I can say is…..wow…..
    .
    http://www.tmz.com/2011/09/26/.....oCbnexmLik

  185. JM September 26th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    # Joe from Long Island September 26th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Heck, Joe likely would have taken out Nova while he still had the lead.

    If Joe had really wanted to win the game, that is.
    ________________

    Yep. The game is managed quite differently if it’s a must-win game for the Yanks. Mo probably pitches more than one inning, too.

  186. JM September 26th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    I also think if Joe had pinch-hit Andruw Jones against Morales the game ends right there. Thought Morales was tiring a bit, would have been a good spot for Jones.

  187. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Trisha,

    Yea….I think Girardi just gonna manage to prepare form Friday more than anything. The Yankees can treat these like ST tuneups for openingsay day.

    YF,

    Yea I agree…..they seem committed to doing it right with Manny.

  188. Betsy September 26th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Rayvt, if that is the reason for choosing AJ over Phil, I think that is bogus….choose your best pitcher. The leastJoe could have done was explain his reasoning….just saying that he made the decision because that is what he decided makes no sense. I guess it is no big deal because either Phil or AJ are flawed and neither is a lock top give a good start. At most AJ wii start once…I do believe that, once again, his contact comes into play…plus the fact that he can be a pain. Given how much of a baby he has acted like recently with some of his quotes, they probably just didn’t want top have to deal with that

  189. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    “J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am
    Here’s an idea: contribute to the discussion instead of taking swipes at people who are having it. ”
    ————————————————–
    “J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 9:59 am
    YsGuy, just want to also say, as for paying for tickets, I’m a full season ticket holder and have been since 2000. LOL, wasn’t too concerned about “paying” for tix.”
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    “Really??? It was a metaphor. We don’t have emoticons for tone here. Gimme a break.”
    ——————————————————–
    “J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:06 am
    pat, how is discussing baseball “over reacting”?”
    ———————————————————–

    “J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:27 am
    pat,

    & as for moralizing, I couldn’t touch you in that department .”
    ———————————————————
    “J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:30 am
    This site does make me think of the Joe Girardi Show. That’s why I don’t have to watch it, I get enough of that fluff right here in between comments that actually target the games rather than other posters.”

  190. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    pat September 26th, 2011 at 11:28 am
    Calling Girardi insane and immoral is a metaphor for what?
    ///

    you’ve spent more energy fishing for a comment of mine and reposting it than you have in expressing your own opinions. Now you want to discuss my prose style??

  191. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    They chose to put Hughes in the pen because he’s been hurt and because he has bullpen experience ……

  192. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    “trisha,

    I’m with you on wanting to win because I wanted to crush the Sux hopes.”

    Yeah, and it annoys me that now they even think they have a chance to get things done! This all could have been avoided!

    What’s almost comical (but not quite) is that I am so laissez-faire about Yankee losses. They never bother me. And especially a loss when we’re already in, clinched HFA, etc. etc. But this one I am taking personally! I woke up aggravated and I cannot seem to get the aggravation to disappear! We could have buried them last night. Or we could have made it so hard for them to rally and feel good about life that it would have been worth it. But now, now I can’t turn on WEEI, I don’t even want to go out and go around town because I’m sure the yayhoos will be grinning ear to ear. IT DIDN’T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY, JOE. WHY?????

    :evil:

  193. Tank September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Don’t want to overreact too much… but if Boston ends up making the playoffs and beating us in the ALCS, how can Girardi keep his job?

    I like the guy a lot actually and think he is a good fit here especially after Torre… but He let Boston in the playoffs. If Boston gets hot here, we’re going to be hearing about yesterday forever. Proctor will be the new Brown/Vazquez. Romine hitting for Papelbon and Jones not PH for Golson will be 2nd guessed as often as not running on Wakefield, bunting on Schilling, or using Gordon in a 19-8 game. Ellsbury will become a folk hero in Boston like Damon was.

    The implications of last night loom very large. It’s not hyperbole to say so. There are numerous examples of teams who almost collapsed down the stretch only to win a title – 06 Cards, 00 Yankees, 05 Chi Sox, etc. Girardi had a chance to prevent Boston from adding their name to this list… now it is out of his hands.

    Now, this is all assuming Boston gets in, which they still might not. But Joe now opened a door that should have never been open in the first place and might not be able to close it.

  194. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Betsy, Hughes is the better choice for the bullpen right now. Injured, and inactive are the factors. AJ’s salary has nothing to do with the decision.

  195. JM September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    I always figured the Sox would make the playoffs even with how horribly they were playing, because Tampa hasn’t exactly been playing amazing baseball….Not like the Cardinals who have won 21 of 28 I think….

    But if the Yanks had beaten the Sox last night I think that would have been it for them. That team is not nearly as bad as they have been playing, obviously, but after the Yanks got the 3-0 lead they looked shellshocked. If we had been able to tack on just a run or two it would have been all over.

    Water under the bridge, however. Time to get ready for the playoffs.

  196. Betsy September 26th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    I can’t believe people are upset because the Yankees had the nerve to lose a game. sorry…while I think the sox will be dangerous if in, I am not going to quake in my boots

  197. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    Your point, YsGuy…?

  198. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    “Tank September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    Don’t want to overreact too much… but if Boston ends up making the playoffs and beating us in the ALCS, how can Girardi keep his job?”
    ———————————
    does he also get fired if the rays make the playoffs and beat us?

    does anybody on here thing that the player’s might have something to do with winning and losing? …ANYBODY???

  199. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 11:46 am

    jnorris427 Baseball America makes @MjordanW9 its top NYPL prospect. Culver No. 6, Austin No. 8, Gumbs No. 14 and Pinder No. 19. #Yankees

  200. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    They chose to put Hughes in the pen because he’s been hurt and because he has bullpen experience ……

    =============================================

    One thing I’ve noticed about Hughes in the last 2 months is that his fastball is about 94 MPH in the first inning and only about 90/91 MPH by the 4th inning. Thus he would be more valuable to the Yankees in the playoffs by only going an inning or two at a time.

  201. Betsy September 26th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Yankeesfem, I don’t agree, but then I have never assumed like so many have that he is going to turn things around because he is in the pen. Is the pen going to magically make him throw better pitches? Either way! He is going to be a long man type …Or a sixth inning type. I do not expect him to be an impact pitcher

  202. Yank 97 September 26th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    I have never been rooting as hard for a result as I will be rooting for us to get swept. We need BOS out of the playoffs. We had a chance to do it ourselves, but Binder Joe didn’t feel it was important.

    Do Buck’s boys have one more in ‘em??? Just one more good series Buck.

    Ugh, last night’s game sucked. Would have been a perfect ending to finish the homestand on a walkoff and officially take destiny out of Boston’s hands.

  203. JM September 26th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    In other news, how good is Clayton Kershaw? Leading the NL in ERA (2.28), strikeouts and tied for most wins with 21. Wow.

  204. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am
    Betsy, Hughes is the better choice for the bullpen right now. Injured, and inactive are the factors. AJ’s salary has nothing to do with the decision.
    ///

    yankfem, I’m not sure why AJ’s start yesterday is dismissed. He pitched a good game and gave us length. Seems he’s open to mixing in his changeup much more this year, too. AJ is back in the mix to start in the post-season, and he should be.

  205. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    “J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:41 am
    pat September 26th, 2011 at 11:28 am
    Calling Girardi insane and immoral is a metaphor for what?
    ///

    you’ve spent more energy fishing for a comment of mine and reposting it than you have in expressing your own opinions. Now you want to discuss my prose style??”
    ——————————————-
    ““J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:09 am
    Here’s an idea: contribute to the discussion instead of taking swipes at people who are having it. ”
    “J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:44 am
    Your point, YsGuy…?”
    —————————————-

  206. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    Huh? No Mason Williams????

  207. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    ” but He let Boston in the playoffs. ”

    No he didn’t……that’s a huge overstatement. First….they haven’t made it yet…..and second Girardi ‘s primary goal is to prepare his own team for Game 1 Friday…..not to keep Boston out.

    The Yankees aren’t nearly as afraid if Boston as a lot of fans apparently are

  208. Betsy September 26th, 2011 at 11:49 am

    Blake, well I think that excuse about pen experience is bogus…and I do not see how being in the pen is better for ones health. If that were the reason why didn’t Joe just say so?

  209. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    “I can’t believe people are upset because the Yankees had the nerve to lose a game. sorry…while I think the sox will be dangerous if in, I am not going to quake in my boots”

    This is the first time I am upset that the Yankees had the nerve to lose a game. So I intend to fully indulge my upset!

    I’m not worried about the Sux winning in the postseason. They stink. 14 innings to beat a team playing without most of its regulars?

    I’m PISSED that they won last night’s game because it will be turned into this big deal that makes it look like they are playoff worthy, which they’re not. Their A lineup outlasted our B lineup.

    GO RAYS!!!! is all I have to say.

  210. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Tank September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Don’t want to overreact too much… but if Boston ends up making the playoffs and beating us in the ALCS, how can Girardi keep his job?

    =============================================

    Girardi would keep his job because it was Pena who made the pitching change from Laffey to Procgtor. Lol

    Girardi was ejected earlier in the game.

  211. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Betsy, the pen is temporary. I am not following your reasoning. This is only about getting Phil’s arm in the mix in the playoffs.

  212. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    trisha, couldn’t agree more on all counts. Especially difficult to stomach having been at the game… We had countless opportunities to win.

  213. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Betsy,

    He probably didn’t feel he needed to…..its pretty self explanatory……he hasn’t pitched in 2 weeks and he has a history of being a good reliever. AJ hasn’t been hurt……and AJ has never pitched out of the bullpen.

  214. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    YsGuy, very West Coast….creepy…my final comment on that.

  215. vmercogliano September 26th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    Hey guys,

    I’ve been breaking down the roster a bit, and here’s how I see it shaping up for the ALDS. As I’ve said before, I really believe that Girardi is going to go with whoever has the strongest start in this final week as his No. 3 starter. That means that A.J. Burnett — gulp — is actually in the mix after having his best start in months yesterday. I’m not going to commit to who’s starting Game 3, but I do believe that 24 spots on the postseason roster are secure. Here are those 24, plus the candidates for the 25th and final spot.

    The 24
    C: Russell Martin
    1B: Mark Teixeira
    2B: Robinson Cano
    3B: Alex Rodriguez
    SS: Derek Jeter
    LF: Brett Gardner
    CF: Curtis Granderson
    RF: Nick Swisher
    DH: Jesus Montero
    Bench: Eric Chavez, Eduardo Nunez, Andruw Jones, Jorge Posada
    Pitchers: CC Sabathia, Ivan Nova, A.J. Burnett, Bartolo Colon, Freddy Garcia, Phil Hughes, Mariano Rivera, David Robertson, Rafael Soriano, Boone Logan, Cory Wade

    Candidates for the final spot:
    - Raul Valdes: If they play Texas and want a second lefty to deal with Josh Hamilton.
    - Luis Ayala: He’s simply hard to leave off because of how good he’s been all year, but they definitely have plenty of righties coming out of the pen.
    - Austin Romine: If they’re worried about Montero or Posada being forced into catching duty.
    - Greg Golson: If they want speed and a possible late inning defensive replacement for Swisher.
    - Chris Dickerson: Could serve a similar purpose as Golson with a better bat, but less speed.

    Thoughts, anyone?

  216. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    “jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Tank September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Don’t want to overreact too much… but if Boston ends up making the playoffs and beating us in the ALCS, how can Girardi keep his job?”

    =============================================

    Girardi would keep his job because it was Pena who made the pitching change from Laffey to Procgtor. Lol

    Girardi was ejected earlier in the game.”
    ————————————–
    nobody’s getting fired over a meaningless game, and the manager continues to manage from the background after being kicked out.

  217. blake September 26th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    The Yankees are better than the Red Sox…..if Boston makes the playoffs…..and somehow gets to the ALCS with their depleted rotation, bullpen, and with a hurt Gonzalez and Youkallis…….then bring Uhm on. I don’t believe they are some sleeping giant.

  218. JM September 26th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Valdes has actually been pretty impressive. I wonder if he might make the roster.

  219. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    “I have never been rooting as hard for a result as I will be rooting for us to get swept”

    I am rooting for Tampa to take as many games as needed to get the Sux out of the playoffs. And for the O’s to take as many as they have to to get the job done.

    Not because I am afraid of the Sux. I just don’t want the greatest team ever assembled to even make the playoffs. Their September’s calendar girl for baseball’s biggest joke.

    (To me the tougher competition between the Sux and the Rays is definitely the Rays. But I don’t back down from tough competition. I have that much faith in the Yankees. I just want the Sux to go down in flames. By the end of the week. )

    Thank you!

  220. JM September 26th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    Agree about the Red Sox. Fans fear them much more than the Yankees do.

  221. jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    “jpb173 September 26th, 2011 at 11:50 am
    Tank September 26th, 2011 at 11:43 am

    Don’t want to overreact too much… but if Boston ends up making the playoffs and beating us in the ALCS, how can Girardi keep his job?”

    =============================================

    Girardi would keep his job because it was Pena who made the pitching change from Laffey to Procgtor. Lol

    Girardi was ejected earlier in the game.”
    ————————————–
    nobody’s getting fired over a meaningless game, and the manager continues to manage from the background after being kicked out.

    *********************************************************

    I was simply joking!!! What did you think the “LOl” was all about?

  222. yankeefeminista September 26th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    blake, agree. Boston is depleted and we are better than they are. I said it in ST, and I still believe that.

  223. Ys Guy September 26th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    jap, just quoting you, you got a problem with that?

    ill comment on your comments when and if i feel like it.

    you on the other hand spent the whole day specificallly swiping at others comments then saying nobody should do what you have been doing all day.

  224. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    blake, agree. This is not at all about Sux fear. It’s about Sux hatred. For me anyway!

    :)

  225. Erin September 26th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    New Post: Pitching matchups at Tampa Bay

    :arrow:

  226. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 26th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    “blake, agree. Boston is depleted and we are better than they are. I said it in ST, and I still believe that.”

    Not a question YF. Dammit that we could have underlined that last night though!!!!

  227. J. Alfred Prufrock September 26th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Thoughts, anyone?
    ///

    Valdes in a small sample has looked decent.

    I would prefer an arm to Romine, who would be superfluous. Jorge Posada hasn’t forgotten how to catch, and he probably won’t even be needed to do so.

    It’s too bad we can’t take Dickerson. I like Golson, he’s been hurt on and off this year and Dickerson has been a good sub. But I go with the extra arm.

  228. blake September 26th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Trisha,

    I agree…..and I want the Sox to miss the playoffs just because I can’t stand them…….but they are limping in of they make if. Their issues are nt ones that can easily be erased by magically flipping some light switch once the playoffs start.

  229. UnKnown September 26th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    I don’t think that it is the Yankees or Joe Girardi’s responsibility to set the Wild Card team in the AL. It’s not on Girardi or the Yankees to get the Rays in the playoffs. They should have won a few more games and last night’s extra inning loss to the Sux would have been irrelevant.

    New York is only accountable for getting themselves in which they did by winning their division and securing HFA. 2nd best record in all of baseball I believe.

    So it’s pretty tough for Cash and the FO to call Girardi into their offices in TB this afternoon and tell him that they are letting him go, because they lost a 14 inn game to the Sux with their B and sometimes C guys in the game.

    Get a grip, this roller coaster ride is going to get a lot more bumpy than this starting on Friday.

  230. MTU September 26th, 2011 at 12:03 pm

    Vincent-

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