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Cano takes his spot as the Yankees best hitter

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Podcast on Sep 28, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Back in 2009, Robinson Cano hit .207 with runners in scoring position. He had 25 home runs that year, and he hit for average against both lefties and righties, but Cano was his worst when had had a chance to do some damage.

“He’s a totally different guy (now),” manager Joe Girardi said. “I think he’s learned to relax in those spots, learned how to drive in multiple runs when there’s multiple guys on. Not just a single, but to drive the ball. He’s grown leaps and bounds.”

Yesterday, Girardi essentially acknowledged that Cano has become the Yankees best all-around hitter. It might have been obvious already, but last night Girardi moved Cano into the spot in the order usually reserved for a team’s top offensive player.

Curtis Granderson might finish ahead of Cano in the MVP race, but this is clearly Cano’s team. He’s not the biggest name, but he’s the biggest bat.

“The first year that I was hitting fifth, I was like 0-for-20 and they moved me back to sixth,” Cano said. “Alex (Rodriguez) helped me a lot. We talked a little bit about it and did some work together in spring training on the back field, and it’s been working really good.

“…What I’ve been doing this year with men on base, I’m not going to change anything. Just keep doing my job, forget that I’m hitting third because I don’t want to put pressure on myself. I’ll just keep playing my game, help the team win a game and help the team win in the postseason.”

Here’s Cano speaking before yesterday’s game.

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242 Responses to “Cano takes his spot as the Yankees best hitter”

  1. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    a post to start Erin’s day off right :)

  2. blake September 28th, 2011 at 9:03 am

    Robbie should have been there all year…….I understand wanting to give Tex a chance do bound back vs RHP though and Im really glad he recognizes the problem and plans to address it. That’s an issue that if he waits too long it coukd be impossible to correct……he needs to age prove his swing while he’s still young enough to do it.

  3. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 9:04 am

    A post about Cano is a fantastic way to start the day. :)

  4. Gary September 28th, 2011 at 9:06 am

    Gary September 28th, 2011 at 9:01 am
    GoldGlove9486 September 28th, 2011 at 8:53 am
    Anyone else feeling sick about playing the Tigers in the first round? Please, someone make me feel better.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    It’s not the best matchup, but our SP and offense is going to hold up or it’s not. Got to find out sometime. I wish A Rod were hitting better, it keeps taking me back to the year when we played Detroit in the first round and ARod and the team did nothing. That might have been the year also that Soriano was all world and then did nothing but strikeout in the playoffs. The Kennry Rogers sandpaper game also comes to mind.

  5. MTU September 28th, 2011 at 9:09 am

    Work on that plate discipline a little more Robinson and you’ll hit .380.

    Well, almost.

    :)

  6. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    im hoping the O’s put up a 6 spot in the first inning so everyone will go back to rooting for the yankees to win

  7. GoldGlove9486 September 28th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    Gary, well said. I was in college that year and was CONVINCED the Yankees were winning it all with one of the greatest lineups of all time. The way they played in Comerica was absolutely sickening.

  8. LGY September 28th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    Then, as the meeting on the mound broke up and the infielders started to return to their positions, Longoria had another thought.

    He called out to second baseman Ben Zobrist and told him, “If the ball comes hard to me, I’m going to step on the base and let’s try and turn a triple play.”

    “That thought was in my head,” Longoria said. “That this would be the play, if it was hit to me. It would be an instinct play. I’d try and let where the ball was hit dictate what I would do. I knew Martin was running. He doesn’t run terribly for a catcher, but if there’s anybody in that lineup we’d have a chance at on a triple play, it’s him.”

    http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/15651331

  9. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 9:14 am

    “The Kenny Rogers sandpaper game also comes to mind.”

    I’m still annoyed about that one..

  10. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 9:15 am

    Gary-I really thought that team was going all the way. Bad memories. :x

    LOL

  11. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Cano is the man!

    GoldGlove9486 September 28th, 2011 at 8:53 am
    Anyone else feeling sick about playing the Tigers in the first round? Please, someone make me feel better.
    —————————————–
    Texas leads the AL in BA and is 2nd to the Yankees in homers, 3rd behind Boston and NY in runs scored. While Detroit’s offense is good it’s based on 4 dangerous hitters, starting with Cabrera, Martinez, Avila and Peralta. Their only speed merchant is Austin Jackson.

    The Rangers have a better overall bullpen and a better starting staff, once you get by Verlander.

    I think the Rangers will go all out tonight to win and face the WC, hoping to face an exhausted Red Sox team.

    Do you feel any better?

  12. JM September 28th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Fister has actually been pitching great for Detroit of late as well, albeit against mostly bad teams.

  13. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    I didn’t see the triple play-but those are always cool. I remember the Yankees turning one early last season (in fact-that might have been the infamous “Get Off My Mound” game) I didn’t even mind that they ended up losing.

  14. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    RiverAveBlues Waaaambulance RT: @CBSNewYork: Report: Mets ?Livid? Over Portrayal In Newark, Yankees Triple-A Saga http://cbsloc.al/nFwMDf

  15. JM September 28th, 2011 at 9:18 am

    The thing about Detroit is, if the Yankees win the first game when Verlander starts, the Tigers will be pretty deflated. And CC at his best can certainly match up with Verlander head to head.

    I do wish some of the guys were swinging the bats a bit better, particularly Arod, Teix and Grandy.

    Also as others have mentioned, facing Detroit probably means seeing very little of Montero.

  16. GoldGlove9486 September 28th, 2011 at 9:20 am

    Yankee Trader, I do feel better after seeing that. Texas has been hot this month, so I guess you just have to play whoever shows up on Friday!

  17. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    I love when the Mets get mad about people telling it like it is… its almost like when MLB got mad about the Mets telling it like it is (re: the Sept 11th hats).

  18. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:21 am

    you’ve gotta beat good teams to win the WS. they are all good teams. i dont care which good team we play, i just can’t wait for friday night to come!

  19. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 9:23 am

    I didn’t even mind that they ended up losing.
    ————————————–
    Erin-

    I would have felt better if the loss/homerun would have been hit off Proctor or Laffey.

  20. 108 stitches September 28th, 2011 at 9:26 am

    Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 8:58 am
    108 stitches-

    Who wins the playoff game and likely faces the Rangers in Arlington on Friday?

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    The nod goes to the Rays. Short flight or not, The Socks still have to travel and have either Lackey or Wakefield starting and a worn out bullpen.

  21. Gary September 28th, 2011 at 9:27 am

    I didn’t see the triple play-but those are always cool. I remember the Yankees turning one early last season (in fact-that might have been the infamous “Get Off My Mound” game) I didn’t even mind that they ended up losing.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Evan was playing right on top of the bag which was the only thing that turned it. It was like Martain went out and handed him the ball. The play when Tex didn’t score set it up, otherwise it wasn’t bases loaded and we might have gotten an additional run beyond the run that didn’t get scored by Tex. Lets face it we were still ahead, thought the So-Ro-Mo train would have held them but I wasn’t sure.

  22. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:21 am
    you’ve gotta beat good teams to win the WS. they are all good teams. i dont care which good team we play, i just can’t wait for friday night to come!
    ———————————-

    Gold glove-

    Ys Guy is right. If it makes you feel any better, the Yankees have had the toughest opponents down the stretch and have played very well, all against AL East teams vying for a playoff spot and playing like there is no tomorow!

  23. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:28 am

    so the mets are ‘livid about ‘being painted in a bad light?’ … too bad! its not about the lighting, its about the decision they made. why cant whoever’s in charge just be a man and say we made an unpopular decision to protect our interests and stand by it. instead they whine that its the media’s fault. NO IT ISN’T, its about you guys blocking the scranton yankees from playing in newark.

    stop whining about the media.

  24. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    It was nice to see D-rob get his 100th K

  25. Wang IS Taiwan September 28th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    MTU September 28th, 2011 at 6:42 am
    I thought Colon pitched a pretty good game last night.

    Basically he made only one mistake.

    I’d trust him over Burnett any day and twice on Sunday especially if it’s comin’ out of the pen.

    Burnett has earned nothing. I hope they add Bartolo to the playoff roster and leave Burnett off.

    ~~~~~~~~

    Agree with this, MTU, but you know it’s not going to happen. Girardi’s comments after the game were so disappointing. Again, management is going to sell this idea of how good AJ’s “stuff” is and not considering who actually can pitch and is a gamer. When’s the last time anyone called AJ a gamer? And his stuff? Come on…Makes me crazy that we’re probably going to be stuck with him and Soriano (sourpuss) next season.

    Oh, and I’m all for letting the guys play before the playoffs. Timing is EVERYTHING in baseball and you can’t exactly call the bats hot right now. Unfortunately, Arod doesn’t have it. But of course Girardi is still going to slot him #4. I think I nearly fell over when I read that Tex was finally out of the 3 hole against righties. But how long did THAT take? Ridiculous.

  26. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    RiverAveBlues Some playoff tiebreaker info: If TEX (95-66) and DET (94-67) end with the same record, DET owsn the tiebreaker, and Yanks would play TEX.

  27. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    “the Yankees have had the toughest opponents down the stretch and have played very well, all against AL East teams vying for a playoff spot and playing like there is no tomorow!”

    SO true. Can’t stress this enough, really. We’ve had a pretty good month of September.. but now its time to really step up our game.

  28. 86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    Bottom line is there are no easy match ups in the post-season…..

    unless the Twins are involved, that is.

    I could see a lineup of Gardner, Jeter, Cano, Alex, Grandy, Tex, Montero, Swish,Martin next year.

  29. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    I had no illusions about that 2006 team, nor do I fault members of the lineup for the loss. The pitching staff was not good, nor did I expect much from them, and they put us in a hole early in the games putting the offense in a bad spot. It was that way nearly every game. My only hope was them miraculously holding us in until the bats could answer, but their mediocrity, plus Detroit’s excellent pitching, was a bad recipe for our success. I love the way people then gave Leyland credit for sandbagging us with his “Murderer’s Row and then Cano” line…our psyche was not relevant; their pitching and our lack of it was. Still feel Detroit wins the WS that year without that big layoff that cooled off their arms.

    I wish there was another week or so of season left. Alex has run out of ABs. Say a prayer he finds it – we need him.

    If we do play Detroit, AJ will probably be the Game 3 guy. Nice big park. Who cares if they hit 360 foot flyballs. If it’s Texas, maybe it’s Freddy. Also depends on what the series stands at… man I wish we still had Andy…

  30. Wang IS Taiwan September 28th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    I love these tight playoff battles…esp because we’re not in them! Nice to sit back and watch the drama unfold.

  31. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    Lets face it we were still ahead, thought the So-Ro-Mo train would have held them but I wasn’t sure.
    ——————————————–
    When you walk Lofton on 4 pitches to start the inning, I thought at worst the Rays would tie. When you walk Longoria after that, I felt Soriano was in deep trouble. Hopefully if it was the playoffs, Girardi would have already yanked him.

  32. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    The Mets thing with Scranton is absurd. It would’ve been so cool to have the baby Yanks in my backyard. Normally, I don’t have any strong feelings about the Mets. Never seemed worth it.. but I think I’m shifting my stance..

  33. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 9:35 am

    Hey, Joba has started some sort of program for kids to help keep them physically fit, helped donate a walking track to an elementary school. Why do I feel that Joba’s TJ time is going to be important in the long run in saving his career as a starter? I think Joba’s also doing some growing up, realizing and deciding what’s important in life. Go JOBA!!!

  34. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:37 am

    shane, same here i live in maplewood! and i actually have been a mets follower, i usually get to a few games at citi each year and i try to pay attention to them when there is some reason to.

    i am going to zip off an email to them and tell them that they can forget about me buying tickets next season. dont laugh, they sell alot of tickets to yankees fans and if we all boycott them for a year its gonna hurt them economically.

  35. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    I don’t see why the Mets are making such a fuss about one year. It’s not like it was going to be permanent. If they’re so worried about their image, they can always relent :D. It would be great to have the kids close by for promotions, and for sending guys down. Also, so many up there would get to see them!

  36. LGY September 28th, 2011 at 9:42 am

    What’s taking Girardi so long to announce Scott Proctor is starting tonight?

  37. 86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Newark is not that big of a deal.

    Why not see if the folks in the AA and AAA offices will cooperate and have both teams play in Trenton? More convenient for fans to get to than Scranton and the folks in Trenton would have a game just about every day of the season.

    Conflicts that can’t be worked out end up in day/night contests.

    Soriano was as bad as bad can be last night. I actually called the 3-run HR after the first ball to Matt Joyce knowing that a nothing on it fastball was coming.

    Players should be fined $ 25 K every time they go into first base head first. It’s stupid, dangerous and slows you down. Maybe once a year it makes sense to avoid a tag, but Martin could have killed himself last night

  38. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 9:46 am

    Who wins MVP in AL?
    Bautista
    Granderson
    Ellsbury
    Cano
    Cabrera
    Other

    Who wins AL ROY?
    Hellickson
    Nova
    Trumbo
    Hosmer
    Other

  39. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    I wonder if they’ll do the player-manager thing tonight.

  40. LGY September 28th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    Was last night the night Soriano became a True Yankee?

  41. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:47 am

    im pretty sure a aaa team needs its own stadium, im not sure sharing it with a aa team would work. under the proposal they were negotiating, the bears were going to play the whole season on the road.

    i called the mets and told them what i thought and the guy who answered acted as if he couldnt care less. he just said okay bye when i finished telling him that i didnt think id go to any games next year.

  42. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 9:49 am

    86w183 – Newark isn’t a big deal to some people, but personally I love the city and I wish the Mets didn’t stand in the way of the Yankees because of their own inferiority complex. It would’ve been great for the community there, having just built a new soccer arena close by as well as the Prudential center around the corner.

  43. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 9:49 am

    YT
    my guesses (not my preferences)
    Ellsbury if sox squeak in, otherwise Verlander
    Hellickson for ROY

  44. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    maybe i should apologize b/c i didnt paint that met’s guy in a good light…

  45. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 9:50 am

    YS – I actually go to a couple Mets games a year as well!! Never again. I can just go to the Shake Shack on Union Square, since thats the biggest draw there without the Mets being competitive.

  46. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    im going with ells and hellickson

  47. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    LGY September 28th, 2011 at 9:42 am
    What’s taking Girardi so long to announce Scott Proctor is starting tonight?
    ///

    I think you’ve misunderstood. He’s not wasting that arm in a meaningless game. You don’t fight for HFA all year just to waste him tonight. He’s starting Game 1 on Friday.

  48. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 9:53 am

    You guys bring up an interesting point; the Mets are under rating the Yankee fan as a paying customer to their park. Cashman should really harp on their lack of cooperation to reciprocate their pettiness and get Yankee fans who are not really taking this in to boycott Mets’ games.

  49. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    LGY September 28th, 2011 at 9:47 am
    Was last night the night Soriano became a True Yankee?

    **********************

    :lol:

  50. Bret The Hitman September 28th, 2011 at 9:55 am

    R. Soriano was robbed when he didn’t win Player of the Game honors last night. There’s your Chevrolet Player of the Game right there.

  51. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    i dont think the yankees or their people should push the mets, but i think if say rab or whoever worked to organize a boycott, or at least worked up an online pettittion to the mets threatening one, and there was widespread support among yankees fans to boycott them for a year, they would have to listen. thats many many millions of dollars they’d lose. and they will be desperate to sell tickets to anyone next season.

  52. Joe from Long Island September 28th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    Good morning –

    Nice info, from LGY, about Longoria thinking triple play. I wonder – was he expecting that change up that Hellickson threw? Because, I thought last night that he was playing awfully close to the line for the 6th inning. If Longoria is a bit more towards the SS position, that ball Martin hits goes threw for at least two runs.

    Martin’s right – got to give Longoria credit for making that play. That’s baseball.

  53. Joe from Long Island September 28th, 2011 at 9:56 am

    And – that’s bush by the Mets.

  54. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    I’m not worried about Soriano. & I don’t particularly care whether he smiles or not.

  55. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    I’ve gotta go. Just received my USA Today Sports Weekly on my e-mail.

    They conclude:
    ” Jeter got 3000 hits. Rivera broke the saves record-mystique and aura are back.
    This is a flawed Yankees team but it’s still headed to the World Series.”

    Go Yankees!!! :)

  56. longtimefan September 28th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    I would rather see Cano in the 4 hole, Arod looks terrible at the plate, completely lost, leave Tex at 3 and Cano at 4, move Arod to 5th or lower, but that would take balls on Girardi’s part.

  57. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    yeah i dont like soriano either, but just add him to a very very long list of guys who played for the yankees i didnt like. the line starts with the unit and the rocket is right behind him. ill leave steve howe off it since he’s not longer with us…

  58. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:00 am

    Jeter needs a 2-4 night or better to reach .300. Hopefully he has another good one against Price.

  59. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    YsGuy, I like the idea, but I wonder how many mainstream Yankee fans would really not patronize the Mets based on this. A lot of fans still don’t seem to have much interest in NYY farm teams, but it’s worth a shot.
    ///

    The question is, can they block us in SI? Somebody on another site mentioned Bridgewater, NJ, where the Somerset Patriots play. How far reaching is the Mets’ ability to block us in the state of NJ?

  60. MTU September 28th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Joe-

    Luck played a very big part in that one as is the case with all triple plays.

    Don’t give Longoria too much credit.

    ;)

  61. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    arod sometimes looks terrible one at bat then starts on a tear the next ab. you never know when its gonna happen, you just have to wait him out…

  62. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:01 am

    Alex is a better hitter than Tex against RHP even when his timing is off…..

  63. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    the 3p was taylor-made, he fielded it on the bag, it was really a routine dp…

  64. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:02 am

    if arod doesn’t wake up we are doomed…

  65. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    idk for sure but i think the met’s and yankees ‘protected area’ is a radius from citi field and i think its 50 miles or so. doesnt matter which state.

  66. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    they can now walk cano till the cows come home if al is shot…

  67. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    No, Tex is where he needs to be now hitting LH. If they walk Cano, Alex can still hit situationally for us and cause damage that way. I just wish he had some more time…wonder if he’s hurting right now or just rusty…he looks a little uncertain when on the move.

  68. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    mick, i dont agree. if arod slumps, its harder but this team played its best baseball when he was out. also, the PS goes on a long time and any team that goes all the way to the WS is in it long enough that guys go into and out of slumps througout the PS. i think we are less dependant on any one hitter than any other team in the playoffs.

  69. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 10:07 am

    Ledger_Yankees RT @nightnelms: @Ledger_Yankees any idea who the Yanks might pitch tonight? / whoever is sitting in Section 219, Row 5, Seat 4.

  70. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    I wish they had taken a more aggressive approach sigh Montero …..because he’s got the type of ability and bat speed that can hit good pitching. He’s in scoring position every time he steps to the plate especially at YS.

  71. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:08 am

    hope you’re right Ys Guy but you must admit, a hot alex is what we want…

  72. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    By process of elimination, it’s Dellin – at least to start. Unless they’re just going to scrub it from 1 to 9.

  73. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Sigh = with

  74. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    id like to see betances pitch tonight

  75. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    true mick but the thing we probably need more than anything is a hot nova and a hot ________
    (fill in the blank with a starting pitcher’s name…)

  76. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Blake, I think Montero is going to start at DH and Po is going to come off the bench for the most part. He can still really help with guys on base to either work a walk or come up with a big hit, especially at home. But I think Montero is going to get the nod.

  77. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    I saw Hughes pitch at Brooklyn in that NYPL rehab game. I am now sorry that the Mets got my money. Nice park too, but never again.

  78. Villa Nova-Ya September 28th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    All season long, all I read was, “move Tex to 5 and Cano to 3″ and now they did it, and there’s immediately complaints that ARod should be moved and Cano 4th, leave Tex 3rd. Ay ay ay. There is no end…. LOL

  79. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    By process of elimination, it?s Dellin ? at least to start. Unless they?re just going to scrub it from 1 to 9.

    *********************

    If that’s the case, he has to use “Blame It On the Rain” for his warm up music. ;)

  80. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:11 am

    blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:09 am
    Sigh = with
    ///

    haha, freudian slip, there, eh?

  81. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Villa Nova-Ya September 28th, 2011 at 10:11 am
    All season long, all I read was, “move Tex to 5 and Cano to 3? and now they did it, and there’s immediately complaints that ARod should be moved and Cano 4th, leave Tex 3rd. Ay ay ay. There is no end…. LOL
    ///

    Well, I’m not that concerned about that because I have hope that Alex will put it together, and like I said, he’s a pretty smart hitter as well as a uber talented one. But in fairness to the folks who are concerned, I don’t think they’re complaining gratuitously, I think they’ve watched Alex at the plate and there’s genuine concern. If he were thumping, they wouldn’t be concerned, but he’s pretty off at the moment. Just have to hope the light goes on….

  82. Villa Nova-Ya September 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    J Alfred -

    I think Betances starts mainly because if Hughes is coming out of the bullpen in the PS, they will want him to get into that routine. Starting him tonight kind of defeats that purpose, no? And Betances is a starter, unlike everyone else in the pen that’s ready to go, no?

    If that’ s now how they work it out, I’m flummoxed. I mostly can follow the Yankees (read Girardi’s) logic whether or not I’d do the same, and don’t spend a lot of time being overly critical. But if Hughes starts, even I”d be left scratching my head.

  83. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    J Alfred,

    I hope…..but I think if Joe was going to DH vs RHP then he would have started one of the last 2 games. I think he will play the matchups

  84. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    Erin? I don’t get it! :(

  85. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    as long as A-rod isn’t hitting 8th I don’t care where he hits ;)

  86. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:16 am

    blake, just a hunch. We will see…

  87. JM September 28th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    The Scranton Yanks in Newark would have been great for the city, which as most know is struggling but has been attempting a bit of a comeback with the Prudential Center, etc. Petty Mets. I was just at Citi Field last weekend but I think that will be my last trip for a long while.

  88. Bring in the Goose September 28th, 2011 at 10:17 am

    JM says:
    September 28, 2011 at 9:18 am
    The thing about Detroit is, if the Yankees win the first game when Verlander starts, the Tigers will be pretty deflated. And CC at his best can certainly match up with Verlander head to head.

    I do wish some of the guys were swinging the bats a bit better, particularly Arod, Teix and Grandy.

    Also as others have mentioned, facing Detroit probably means seeing very little of Montero.

    ——————

    yanks were up 1-0 last ALDS against Detroit and Mussina hung one to Guillen in Game 2 to tie the series.

    Make no mistake, Game 2 is just as important as Game 1 in a 5 game series. Going to be tough against either Texas or Detroit. Maybe the toughest opponents Yanks have faced in the ALDS since…1995.

  89. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    I figured since Hughes was set to pitch today they might start him.. but I could also see them wanting to call him out of the pen specifically to get him used to it.

  90. JM September 28th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    I would love to see Montero DH against both RH and LH pitchers but it seems as blake said that if Joe was planning to do that he would have started Jesus the last couple of nights. I think he’s thinking of him more as a potential pinch hitter in those situations which is why he tried him out that way.

  91. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    Villa Nova-Ya September 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am
    J Alfred -

    I think Betances starts mainly because if Hughes is coming out of the bullpen in the PS, they will want him to get into that routine. Starting him tonight kind of defeats that purpose, no? And Betances is a starter, unlike everyone else in the pen that’s ready to go, no?
    ///

    I agree, Villa. They also do need to give Dellin some more innings, this is the perfect opportunity to do that.

  92. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 10:18 am

    J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:16 am
    Erin? I don?t get it

    **********************

    Since he was one half of Milli Vanilli on Monday night. ;)

  93. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    Ah Villa beat me to it..

  94. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:19 am

    If Betances is pitching tonight, it is a good idea to start him to help him acclimate. He sometimes can have some control issues at the beginning of a game, especially after a layoff, and then he settles down in the 2nd inning. To throw him into a game later, is kind of unproductive in that it is not a point in the game that he normally comes into. True, he relieved briefly in the EL All Star game, but with the nerves likely going again, it is better to make him comfortable right off the bat by letting him start if they plan on pitching him.

  95. Bring in the Goose September 28th, 2011 at 10:20 am

    Think Cano bats third now in the playoffs?

    Has this been confirmed or was it a one time thing?

  96. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    id say joe is leaning toward posada as the dh vs. righties. but these decisions only last a game in the PS. if they start posada vs. rhp and he doesnt hit the first couple of games (gotta cut everyone some slack if they dont hit big V) they will switch. hughes is likely one of the first righties out of the pen in the PS but if he’s effective and say sori is not, it wont take long for hughes to move up in the food chain. things happen fast in the PS. battlefield promotions come quickly.

  97. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    JM & Blake, if Detroit is our opponent, he’s not going to have Jorge be the sole DH against RHSP. I just don’t believe it. If it’s Texas, what have they got, 3 lefties? So it won’t really be an issue, if that’s the case… with Alex’s bat slumbering, they know Montero becomes even more important…

  98. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    Start Dellin!

  99. JM September 28th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    They seemed to imply yesterday that Cano’s promotion in the batting order would remain, at least through the playoffs.

  100. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    I really don’t care who gets in or who we play.
    To worry about things we have no control over is bogus.
    I would prefer to play Texas but they are hot and it looks like they and Det will win again today so we get Det.
    I think we can get to Verlander but I hope it’s early…Scherzer scares me a little.
    Boston, for some reason, if they play a play-in game I won’t root hard either way.
    As a matter of fact, if they get in , it will make for a more interesting postseason.

  101. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    Yea, that’s what they’ve led us to believe, that Jorge goes against RHP and Montero, against LHP. If the matchup is Texas, they don’t really have to change that strategy…if it’s Detroit, then they will likely deviate, IMO. We’ll see.

  102. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:23 am

    I expect Soriano to pitch very well in the PS.

  103. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Scherzer is either lights out or all over the place. Hopefully, we get the latter pitcher if it’s Detroit.

  104. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    I don’t trust Soriano.
    Even in the clincher he was shaky .

  105. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:25 am

    JAP,

    Yea…..one would think……but reading the tea leaves it seems like they are going to platoon it at least somewhat. Id DH Montero every game of it were me……he has the most impact potential for that role.

  106. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:21 am
    Start Dellin!
    ///

    WHo else is even available to start? It’s Dellin, they just want to keep media off him. They’ll bug him about his wildness at NYS and yanks want to save him that anxiety of answering those questions, even though it would just be a one liner in the “notes” section for these guys, with the postseason looming and him not in it…

  107. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    They won’t disrespect Po against rightys.
    At least , not at the start.
    If we go down 2-0 to Detroit and he is 0-8, we might see Montero in game 3.
    Unless he goes to Chavez.

  108. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:27 am

    They could start Hughes and just bullpen it the whole way id they wanted……or they could start Laffey and have Proctor piggyback.

  109. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:28 am

    yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:19 am
    If Betances is pitching tonight, it is a good idea to start him to help him acclimate. He sometimes can have some control issues at the beginning of a game, especially after a layoff, and then he settles down in the 2nd inning. To throw him into a game later, is kind of unproductive in that it is not a point in the game that he normally comes into. True, he relieved briefly in the EL All Star game, but with the nerves likely going again, it is better to make him comfortable right off the bat by letting him start if they plan on pitching him.
    ///

    Yankfeefem, we’ve seen that movie many times, haven’t we? No chance to settle down last outing, with his Charlie Chaplin pace, lol. We’re very fortunate, in any case, to have Papa Bear CC around to take care of our elite little cub ;).

  110. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:29 am

    once the PS starts, your plans quickly go out the window. you play the hot hand. if jorge dh’s vs. verlaner and goes 0-3 but montero gets a PH, then joe may well decide to go with the hot hand. imo jorge has earned the start in game 1 if its a RHP but after that, its game-to-game.

  111. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Pruf, CC is such a “mom” to our kid pitchers. I love it. :)

  112. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    dellin was soooo not dellin in that outing. he was rushing his delivery which is very very slow. he didnt have anything he was a deer in the headlights. starting him should get him into his groove.

  113. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:27 am
    They won’t disrespect Po against rightys.
    At least , not at the start.
    If we go down 2-0 to Detroit and he is 0-8, we might see Montero in game 3.
    Unless he goes to Chavez.
    ///

    I don’t think respect is the issue, since they’ve already demonstrated they have little for him. I also think he’ll be much sharper in the playoffs. He has the ability to focus in big ABs and get something done, like work a bases-loaded BB or come up with the big hit. THAT’S what they’re looking for from him, & like I said, he’s money at home in that role.

    But I think they’ll make sure Montero gets his ABs & not follow some black & white platoon, here. I know formula is Girardi’s way, but I just don’t see it.

  114. 86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Betances 1-2
    Laffey 3
    Brackman 4
    Ayala 5-6
    Hughes 7-8

    There wont be a 9th

  115. mick September 28th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    The wc races are riveting…why not play a few more games tmw?

  116. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    86 i like the plan but i got a sneaky feeling that betances is gonna take the slow walk off the mound in the 6th and tip his cap to the wildly cheering yankees fans in attendance…

  117. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    86, Joe said he wanted to get Logan in, likely in order to make sure the LOOGY is actually “loogying”; therefore, you need to add him in.

    I’d love to see Dellin get more than two innings.

  118. pkyankfan69 September 28th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 10:32 am
    Betances 1-2
    Laffey 3
    Brackman 4
    Ayala 5-6
    Hughes 7-8

    There wont be a 9th
    ———————-

    I like this but just in case give Proctor one of Ayala’s innings.

  119. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    betances might acutally be the perfect guy for tonight if he’s on. hitting him is all about timing him b/c he hides the ball so long and his slow as molassas delivery puts you to sleep just before big 96 shoots by. the rays should be trying to jump on the rook and you have to be reallly patient hitting him.

  120. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:30 am
    Pruf, CC is such a “mom” to our kid pitchers. I love it.
    ///

    C is Elsa:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXb4XUi8ubg

  121. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    If they don’t pitch Dellin, I will be very disappointed. & I absolutely think he should start, not come in later.

  122. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Pruf, lol.

  123. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    The Rays are an aggressive team, too. Good for Dellin swings and misses! :D

  124. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:41 am

    86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 10:32 am
    Betances 1-2
    Laffey 3
    Brackman 4
    Ayala 5-6
    Hughes 7-8
    ///

    fine, but 3 for Dellin, please :D

  125. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:42 am

    I want to see Matt Moore against all those lefties in the Sox lineup tomorrow

  126. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    FakePeteGammons Little known fact; I sleep in a sleeping bag that is shaped like a giant red sock. This is Peter Gammons.

  127. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:39 am
    Pruf, lol.
    ///

    The male lion is the media, C is the mother lion running him off to protect her cubs. The only part that doesn’t fly is that she is “2/3rds of his weight.”

  128. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    blake, me too, and we no doubt will. :)

  129. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:45 am

    Blake, I’ve been drooling on that thought myself :D.

  130. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    if you remember back to mo’s early days (the secret weapon! lol) he used to get guys more with the 4 seamer than anything else bc you just couldnt picture a guy his size with a delivery as fluid as his throwing that hard and up. with betances its somewhat similar because his motion makes you think the ball’s coming out alot slower than it does. and you cant see till it suddenly appears from behind his head, kinda like johan.

    im not saying hell be anything like either guy, just that he’s hard for a lot of guys to figure out when he’s on his game.

  131. 86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 10:47 am

    Okay, plan B

    Betances 1-3
    Laffey 4
    Ayala 5-6
    Brackman 7
    Logan 8
    Hughes 9

    better?

  132. 86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    On the Newark thing —

    Wasn’t aware of the “need” for Newark economically, but Trenton is probably in a similar situation and you’d have a game every day in 2012.

    Hopefully the Lo-Hud party can be a two day affair and take in a game of each team… or a day night DH with a lot of drinking in between

  133. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:49 am

    betances 1-7, laffey 8 and proctor 9 (with an 8-1 lead to work with!) :)

  134. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    yea YsGUy, betances does bust them up ala early Mo. With his change and curveball breaking down, drastic eye level change & speed change he’s unhittable. I just hope his control/command is there to take advantage of that. He could use a positive cameo. He had one like that in ST last year, making good hitters look silly. That’s who he is and who he’ll eventually be for us.

  135. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    86 i really dont think sharing a stadium is possible, if it were, they likely wouldnt have even asked about newark. the bears were going to do the ‘traveling all stars’ thing if it went through.

    and yes, newark needs all the help it can get…although essex county seems to be doing pretty well…

  136. blake September 28th, 2011 at 10:51 am

    Moore may have a higher ceiling than Price…… good news for Yankee fans is that when he was Manny’s age he was in low A. I doubt Manny ever throws 97…..but he’s got a chance to be our Matt Moore.

  137. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Logan is going to get an inning, according to Joe.

  138. PacoDooley September 28th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    You hear so many guys say that discussions with A-Rod really helped their approach at the plate and their ability to adapt to the Big League game. His value really goes beyond what he does on the field (though that is not much at the moment, and his added value doesn’t add up to his salary, but still – great to hear about what a team guy he is).

  139. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 10:53 am

    DKnobler Great research, interesting story ?@SI_JoeLemire: While closers get the saves, 8th-inning relievers often save the day http://on.si.com/p5hT3h?

  140. dmac September 28th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Apologies if this has already been asked, but what is the formula/tie breaker to determine who the Yanks play in the first round if TX and Detroit end up tied in the standings?

  141. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    i could seriously step out on the front lawn and throw a ball into newark. its okay out by here, but most of it is still a hellhole. i like the mayor alot though!

  142. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    blake, I agree about Moore possibly having a higher ceiling than Price. Love his stuff. As for Manny, I don’t think he will ever throw as hard as Moore but Moore will never have Manny’s changeup. Moore is a beast though; I can think of any pitching prospect coming up right now that I would want on my team more (pun intended).

  143. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    great corey booker story, during a huge snowstorm last winter he said he got a call on his voicemail from an irate citizen about his street not being plowed, the guy got all offensive and nasty in the message. why did booker not anwer it? he was working all night on a snow plow crew!

  144. 86w183 September 28th, 2011 at 10:57 am

    Detroit is the # 2 seed if tied

    In the NL Ariz is # 2 if tied

  145. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    dmac, record head to head, Detroit has the tiebreaker.

  146. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 10:58 am

    Blake, I don’t see him living there, but he has hit 95. Next season he takes another step in commanding the new velocity. When he gets back to being the pinpoint control guy he was, he’ll be ready.

    Moore is a primetime arm right now, one reason I can’t get too excited if the Rays beat out Boston.

  147. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 10:49 am
    betances 1-7, laffey 8 and proctor 9 (with an 8-1 lead to work with!)
    ____
    And possibly blow…

  148. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    *can’t* think not “can”

  149. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    PacoDooley September 28th, 2011 at 10:53 am
    You hear so many guys say that discussions with A-Rod really helped their approach at the plate and their ability to adapt to the Big League game. His value really goes beyond what he does on the field (though that is not much at the moment, and his added value doesn’t add up to his salary, but still – great to hear about what a team guy he is).
    ///

    Absolutely. Contrary to talking head smear attempts, Alex really cares. He’s got a major baseball intellect & he is brilliant at picking things up. What he did for Cano is well known, and Cano always mentions it. He helped Melky a good deal this offseason, too, and the guy has raked all year. Alex is probably the smartest baseball guy in our organization, lol!

  150. Triple Short of a Cycle September 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    Matt Moore has the best pure stuff and highest ceiling of anyone on their staff

  151. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am

    “Joe Girardi wouldn’t commit to any sort of role for Colon in the postseason. He said he’s still considering Colon for a spot in the rotation, and it’s possible the Yankees will carry him in the bullpen.”

    I always say go with the guys that got you there. I will be stunned if Girardi doesn’t find a place for Colon. And then again the postseason is long. As we all know, because someone isn’t on the roster for the first roud doesn’t mean they won’t be there for the second and/or last.

    ****************

    I’m wondering which Gary will show up on the forum tonight. The one who last night claimed he didn’t make any determinations about fandom based on people rooting for the Rays to win, or the one this morning who called them “so called fans”.

    Gary September 27th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
    “…I don’t think I said anything about people as fans in particular. I guess we all have opinions, I just don’t understand how anyone wants their team to lose, just so some other team doesn’t get into the playoffs. I see no logic in it. It’s my opinion and obviously you don’t agree with it. People don’t always agree on things, I guess this is one of those.”

    Gary September 28th, 2011 at 7:28 am
    Morning, I went on the blog last night. Unbelievable, so called fans openly routing against Yanks so that TB would win and Sox would not make playoffs

    **************

    There are a number of us who are absolutely comfortable with the Yankees positioning and see these last three games as nothing more than calm and easy preparation for the postseason. We have been openly rooting for a Sux collapse and part of that is necessarily a Rays win.

    We have not been screaming all over people who want the Yankees to win the last three games, even though we see these games as meaningless. We have not accused those people of being watered-down Yankee fans because they wouldn’t want to see the Yankees rest and at the same time vanquish their most hated rivals. We haven’t called them anything.

    I find it obnoxious beyond belief for anyone to come on and lecture and berate us and try gang-on bullying techniques because we are not rooting the same way they are and because we are not in a twist about the last three games, games we consider to be utterly meaningless to the Yankees. We apparently have total confidence in where the Yankees are right now or we would be rooting for Yankee wins.

    I only hope that those of us who are watching the Baltimore game and rooting on the O’s and hoping the Rays prevail if the Sux win, I hope we aren’t descended upon by the same indignant posters. They made their feelings totally and endlessly apparent last night – and continued into today.

    I personally would submit that nobody with a shred of intelligence or integrity could begin to question my Yankee allegiance- and I will say the same about the others who were rooting for the Rays to win.

  152. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:02 am

    im rooting heavy for that one game playoff, but idk if maybe id be rooting for the socks if there is one. traveling to tampa then to texas after the exhausing couple weeks they’ve had, lester coming off a terrible month and a short rest start, paps throwing more pitches this week then he ususally throws in a month, the catcher situation….that would not be a team in the best shape for the PS.

  153. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    Gary Sanchez is ranked far too low at #14 on this SAL top 20 list. Obviously these guys have never seen him play, and he is going to absolutely pulverize the ball next season.

    http://www.baseballamerica.com.....12405.html

  154. Triple Short of a Cycle September 28th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    great corey booker story, during a huge snowstorm last winter he said he got a call on his voicemail from an irate citizen about his street not being plowed, the guy got all offensive and nasty in the message. why did booker not anwer it? he was working all night on a snow plow crew!

    ———————————————–

    Booker rules

  155. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    They’re going nuts that Laverne and Shirley each hit a homer yesterday. How long before we hear that Lavarnway is a better version of Montero again? Even though they have only 3 things in common: they’re rookie catchers with power. That’s it.

  156. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 28th, 2011 at 11:04 am

    And stop insulting us with the “fear” crap. J Al put that to rest yesterday. If we were coming from a place of fear, we’d want the Sux in the postseason because they are so ridiculously bad.

  157. Triple Short of a Cycle September 28th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    trisha,

    You are as true blue as they come

  158. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:05 am

    The rest of the Alex/CC story is the type of atmosphere it creates on the team.
    Robbie took up the torch this year by working w/ Cisco and Nunez during the off season

  159. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Sundance Channel was running a docu series on Booker and the city on Fridays. I watched it once and it was pretty good. Don’t know if they’re still running it, because I always have a conflict with Friday night. I think it was called Brick City.

  160. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    i have no beef with anyone about who they rooted for the last few games. they were meaningless.

  161. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:07 am

    Triple, no doubt.

  162. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:08 am

    upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:05 am
    The rest of the Alex/CC story is the type of atmosphere it creates on the team.
    Robbie took up the torch this year by working w/ Cisco and Nunez during the off season.
    ///

    ANdy was a big part of this culture, too, and still texts Joba to keep an eye on him. Robbie is paying it forward! :D.

  163. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    J Alfred
    I didn’t realize that about Andy, but it doesn’t surprise me.

  164. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Trisha, no need to defend yourself. Everyone here knows who the “true” Yankee fans are, and again I find this whole discussion silly. No one needs to prove their Yankee fandom. Let people be who they are. Funny the way the true Yankee fans were suspiciously silent when Jeter was getting bashed on this board over and over again. Seriously, how old are we that we are throwing around this term “true Yankee fans anyway?” Please do something more constructive with your time than pull this sanctimonious and self-serving crap. Thanks for respecting each other.

  165. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    Robbie took up the torch this year by working w/ Cisco and Nunez during the off season

    *******************

    Camp Cano!!!!!!

  166. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:13 am

    trisha, if they make it, I’ll have no qualms about kicking their ass ;).

  167. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:16 am

    upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:11 am
    J Alfred
    I didn’t realize that about Andy, but it doesn’t surprise me.
    ///

    Oh, yes, Andy took his “parenting” role very seriously. And I don’t want to exclude Jete and Po. While some here were telling lies about Jeter not being interested in the younger players, Nunez was hailing Jeter as keeping his spirits up, telling him his time was coming, and helping him with all aspects of his game. Posada, Mr. “selfish”, has been nurturing Montero along for years, now, and Jesus always references Po as being a huge help to him. We have good people in our clubhouse, which is why we deserve to win it all! ;).

  168. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal by JonLaneNYC
    Sources: #RedSox still discussing whether to get starting pitcher for potential tie-breaker. Among targets: Royals LHP Bruce Chen. #MLB

  169. JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Sheesh, how desperate are the Sox that they are still looking for a starting pitcher for potential playoff? They are going to let their postseason hopes rest on Bruce Chen? LOL

  170. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    Yeah I have heard that about Jeet and Po as well, Mo too. I didn’t mean to exclude anyone! It appears to be a nuturing clubhouse, not a bunch of primadonnas.

  171. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:19 am

    its the bronx anti-zoo!

  172. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:20 am

    yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:13 am
    Trisha, no need to defend yourself. Everyone here knows who the “true” Yankee fans are, and again I find this whole discussion silly. No one needs to prove their Yankee fandom. Let people be who they are. Funny the way the true Yankee fans were suspiciously silent when Jeter was getting bashed on this board over and over again. Seriously, how old are we that we are throwing around this term “true Yankee fans anyway?” Please do something more constructive with your time than pull this sanctimonious and self-serving crap. Thanks for respecting each other.
    ///

    Hear, hear. It might be nice if regs would get the benefit of the doubt on some of this stuff. Disagree and debate on merit of what’s being said, don’t start questioning the fan’s commitment to their team. Anyone who isn’t a troll and spends as much time here as most here do is probably a little obsessed with the Yankees ;).

  173. JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:21 am

    JAP,

    “Brick City” is still on the Sundance Channel every week. I think it’s on at 8 on Sundays, although I don’t think I’ve ever actually watched it at that time.

  174. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 28th, 2011 at 11:22 am

    Triple, Ys Guy and YFem, thanks. And YF, of course you’re right. People need to try to incorporate a modicum of rationality into their thought processes and then allow people to root the way they need to these last three games! Nobody’s telling posters not to root for the Yankees. It is about respect.

  175. Joe from Long Island September 28th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    If Cash had to look for a last minute trade for a SP for a play-in game, after his hi-priced team collapsed in September, the media would be like vultures all over a carcass.

  176. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    Kate, Mariano too, of course! Father of them all. ALex got a compassionate tough love talk from Mo that really helped him rise and conquer in 2009. Alex nicely read Logan the riot act, since…it goes around and around…

  177. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    does anyone remember what our ST record was? i never do and thats because they are meaningless games finished by guys who may never wear real pinstripes.

    my theory over the decades has always been that the worse they do in ST the better they do in the RS. i dont root for them to lose in ST, i just dont care about the outcome of any ST game and i’d prefer not to have a very good record.

  178. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:25 am

    all I remember about ST is that Alex was on fire!

  179. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:21 am
    JAP,

    “Brick City” is still on the Sundance Channel every week. I think it’s on at 8 on Sundays, although I don’t think I’ve ever actually watched it at that time.
    ///

    Thanks, JM. With the NFL here and baseball playoffs, I’ll have to miss some more episodes, but that’s good to know. It was interesting. I’ve always had a feeling for the city of Newark…my Dad worked there for many years, for one thing, so I know the Down Neck area well…

  180. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:26 am

    looks like pc boy could be activated by the socks for tonight’s game:

    http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....tra_bases/

  181. Triple Short of a Cycle September 28th, 2011 at 11:27 am

    Andy was one of my fav Yankees ever. I never could get mad at him for going to Houston although we prob would have beaten the Sox in 04 if we had him. On the other hand we wouldn’t have Hughes right now. I always appreciated the fact that he turned down more money from the Sox because he could never do that to Yankee fans

  182. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    oh, did the nfl start? i hadn’t noticed. too much great baseball going on…

    actually i have been ignoring it till the baseball season is over (that would be the day we win it all or get eliminated!). you never miss anything when you do that, every team that matters will be either 5-3, 4-4 or 3-5 when the baseball season ends.

  183. blake September 28th, 2011 at 11:30 am

    Lavernway has a chance to be Mark Reynolds……Montero has a chance to be Miguel Cabrera

  184. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    from your lips to god’s ears blake. cabrera is as good as it gets.

  185. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Triple, George’s treatment of Andy was not one of his finer moments, to say the least. We would have won, because we had no LHP.

    But Andy got to return in glory and nail down 2009 WS. We got Hughes, and also, I think that series shook George to the point where he finally listened to Cashman’s insistence that we change our dinosaur ways to building from within. Sometimes it takes a disaster to build a new paradigm, and look at us now. I’d lose that series all over again to have our farm where it is now, and have 2009 in the history books. Many more to come.

  186. Bring in the Goose September 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am

    Trade for Chen today then lose tonight and you never needed him.

    Classic.

  187. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:32 am

    Good comparison, blake. That IS the dramatic difference between the two.

  188. blake September 28th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    JAP,

    The swings of those two aren’t even in the same ballpark…….

  189. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    FakePeteGammons Every move the #redsox make today before gametime will be magical & oh so smarter than everyone else! This is Peter Gammons.

  190. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Ys Guy, you referring to laptop? I doubt he will be ready to pitch this week…

  191. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    remember when cabrera got his dwi this spring and everyone was speculating about how it was gonna affect his game? he dropped from #3 to like #15 in the fbb ranking. i drafted him in the second round (14 teams!) in the lohud league, and of course he’s been lights out again.

    dont much care for his off field demeanor but he is money with the stick!

  192. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 11:35 am

    blake, Laverne&Shirleyway looks like he’s going to hurt himself when he swings ;).

  193. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Speaking of football, at least the Jets have the decency to be on the road for the first two weeks of the baseball playoffs and they scheduled their next home game on a Monday night so it doesn’t conflict with Yanks game 6 and 7 of ALCS. :)

  194. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    yf,pete talked to bucholz last night. he was supposed to be going down to fla to throw a sim game but clay says he could be activated tonight.

  195. blake September 28th, 2011 at 11:38 am

    Cabrera os the best hitter in the baseball right now…..

  196. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    I know it is down to the wire time, but would you really want to risk further injury to Bucky by bringing him back too soon?

  197. JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:39 am

    Can’t imagine Laptops would be that sharp if he had to come into a game after not having pitched in weeks….

  198. Ys Guy September 28th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    i dont know that it would be all that risky, he was supposed to be throwing at full speed in the sim game and they are not talking about starting him. if he’s cleared medically to throw a sim game, he should be able to throw an inning or two without injuring himself.

  199. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    JM, my thought as well, control will likely be an issue, especially if he comes in out of the pen.

  200. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Here’s a possibility. Check Baltimore’s hourly forecast tonight-thunderstorms.

    http://www.weather.com/weather.....271#hhView

    Start very late, play past midnight, fly to Tampa, no sleep and play the Rays for the WC!

    Hmm. Sweeeeet!

  201. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:44 am

    YT, I am all in on a long rain delay in Baltimore.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEnCxGh8kBg

  202. Niblick September 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am

    Has anyone else noticed that Grandy has been phoning it in for the last 4 weeks? His average since September 1 is .185. Nice to time of the year for Grandy to find his old form, isn’t it?

  203. DocTodd September 28th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    If the Yankees had to trade for a starting pitcher for a 163rd game, can you just imagine the asking price for even a scrub starter?? Holy smokes ,would teams try to rake us over the coals or what?? It’s a good thing that D bag Jed Hoyer has no one worthwhile that he could ‘trade’ to the Sox…

  204. Joe from Long Island September 28th, 2011 at 11:48 am

    kate – I know this may sound cynical, but if it’s a question of clay bucholz being put at risk of further injury vs. Theo being put on the hot seat for his job, I think bucholz loses.

    with ace going 3 2/3 innings last night, they will need someone to be come in from the bullpen. outside of papelbon, francona has no one he can rely on.

  205. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Joe, you mean after Aceves. No doubt they will rely on him yet again and blow his arm out for the playoffs.

  206. yankeefeminista September 28th, 2011 at 11:50 am

    Assuming they even make the playoffs. More like for next season…

  207. Joe from Long Island September 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    yankeefem – wouldn’t surprise me. from what i know, ace is the kind of guy who won’t say no if asked to pitch.

  208. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 11:51 am

    Blake and everyone-

    I was looking for the players of the week in September and came across this very funny video “Ballplayers respond to landing on SI.COM meanest MLB players list.”

    Check out this 2 minute video:

    http://www.battingstanceguy.co.....ayers-list

  209. JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am

    Verducci’s award picks:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....=mlb_wr_a3

  210. Betsy September 28th, 2011 at 11:53 am

    I still prefer Alex ..in terms of carrying a team on his back, I still think he is the man.

  211. LGY September 28th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Has anyone else noticed that Grandy has been phoning it in for the last 4 weeks? His average since September 1 is .185. Nice to time of the year for Grandy to find his old form, isn’t it?

    —–

    Yeah, I can’t believe the guy has the audacity to go into a slump after carrying the offense for the first 5 months of the season.

  212. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am
    Verducci?s award picks:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..=mlb_wr_a3

    *************************

    He lost me by putting the Elf in front of Cano. :x

  213. JCPD September 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Some famous last words……… :-)

    brownies March 5th, 2011 at 11:52 am
    I foresee the same issues with our hitters this year..can’t hit good.pitchers like last year. Already a few games, couldn’t touch verlander or bucholz for anything. Add to it a weaker staff and it portends no playoffs for NYY. But cashman wants us to be patient..pathetic!

    E . R . California March 13th, 2011 at 11:12 am
    Bad News from R*d S*x camp :
    ” Beckett, John Lackey, Jon Lester and Clay Buchholz have a combined ERA of 1.16 this spring.

    YankeesNmore March 27th, 2011 at 2:23 pm
    Keep defending Cashman, BoJo. We’ll see what you’re saying come June when the Yankees are miles behind Boston.

    YankeesNmore March 27th, 2011 at 2:28 pm
    Bojo, THIS team will be nowhere to be found by the time October rolls around. The only hole they’ve filled is setup man, and they did that AGAINST Cashman’s wishes.

    timmyb72 July 9th, 2011 at 10:58 am
    It’s looking more and more like Boston and Tampa are your Eastern Division winner and wild card winner. What a blow! Cashman now has to earn his bucks

    yanks4ever July 28th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
    If Yankees don’t find anything better than Hughes they aren’t catching the Red Sox and they aren’t making the playoffs.

  214. JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am

    Erin,

    Cano got no love from Verducci at all…… :(

  215. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Erin

    Verducci also says if the RS finish off the worst choke in baseball history, he’s not voting for players for MVP from teams that did not make the playoffs!

    Check out the video I just attached.

  216. Betsy September 28th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    MTU, IMO I don’t think Colon has enough to get through even one or two innings…we will have to disagree. He has absolutely nothing left…ESP when it comes to starting. If you are referring to the pen then the AJ comp is moot. you would have top comp Colon to Hughes

  217. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    I don’t know why the elf is even in the conversation. Of course he had to get a dig in at Alex.

  218. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    JCPD-very funny. :)

  219. blake September 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    Trader that’s classic…….beckett, Teixera, and Boras were perfect!

  220. pkyankfan69 September 28th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    Erin September 28th, 2011 at 11:55 am
    JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:52 am
    Verducci?s award picks:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c…..=mlb_wr_a3

    *************************

    He lost me by putting the Elf in front of Cano.
    ——————————

    Shouldn’t be too surprising. Cano only leads the midgit in Runs, Rbi’s, Homers, AVG, Slugging, and OPS.

  221. Joe from Long Island September 28th, 2011 at 12:00 pm

    I like Verducci’s common sense approach. While I may differ with him about some things, he’s right about the high ranking of Verlander and Cabrera.

    JCPD – thanks for the comic relief, before I have to go to a boring committee meeting. just what I needed.

  222. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    JM September 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am
    Erin,

    Cano got no love from Verducci at all??

    ***************************

    Sadly, I’m not surprised. I just don’t understand how he thinks Elf is having a better year than Robbie. Boggles the mind.

  223. JCPD September 28th, 2011 at 12:01 pm

    My pleasure Joe, “enjoy” your meeting. ;-)

  224. Shame Spencer September 28th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    I know I’m late on this but I love the show Brick City and think Corey Booker has bedroom eyes… just sayin’ :D Not often do you see a mayor of a major city playing basketball with troubled kids at midnight. Really incredible.

    And yes, some of us have noticed Grandy hasn’t been playing well but we also noticed when he basically carried our offense for the entire season so I’ll give him a pass I suppose.. I’m feeling kind this morning (smoked some of the objective pipe.. I think).

  225. JM September 28th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Thanks JCPD! Classic….

    In the same vein, here it is, once again (sorry but I can’t help myself):

    http://www.nesn.com/2011/01/20.....story.html

  226. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    The Tigers and the Brewers are two legitimate teams that have flown under the radar all year.

  227. JCPD September 28th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    Glad you enjoyed Erin, love holding on to outrageous quotes that people spew as definitive fact!!

  228. Betsy September 28th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    You still have to give Lavernway credit….if Montero did that folks would be over the moon

    If the Yankees ever face the rays I will bet that Moore starts, so those rooting for the Rays might change their tune….

    The rule about division winners not facing the WC team from their own division is unfair as the team with the best record gets penalized

  229. BD (Boston Dave) September 28th, 2011 at 12:04 pm

    I vote for starting Laffey with Proctor coming in to the close the door….

    … on the Red Sox, that is.

  230. BD (Boston Dave) September 28th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    “The rule about division winners not facing the WC team from their own division is unfair as the team with the best record gets penalized”

    ————

    tough call – so there would never be another Yankees vs Red Sox ALCS ever again? no more Aaron Boone moments…

  231. blake September 28th, 2011 at 12:06 pm

    “If the Yankees ever face the rays I will bet that Moore starts, so those rooting for the Rays might change their tune….”

    Nah….he’ll be in their pen in the playoffs.

  232. JM September 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    The Brewers are a good team, no doubt, but they have a pretty average record in away games and a spectacular one at home….this from Joe Lemire SI article:

    Grabbing homefield advantage is more important for the Brewers than for any other team in the majors. They have 56 home wins this season, which is four more than anyone else in baseball, and their +17 difference between home wins and road wins is the NL’s only double-digit discrepancy. At home Milwaukee has scored 4.8 runs per game with 99 homers and a .813 OPS; on the road it has scored 4.1 runs per game with 83 homers and a .698 OPS.

    Arizona, meanwhile, has a +8 win differential, which is the third-largest in the NL, and an offensive home/road split that’s only a little less pronounced than the Brewers’. In games at Chase Field, the D-backs score 4.9 runs per game and have hit 91 homers with a .783 OPS; on the road they score 4.1 runs per game and have hit 79 homers with a .691.

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.c.....z1ZGQEJrJa

  233. JCPD September 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    JM, the pleasure is mine. I’ve held on to that NESN article to save for FB. My niece’s husband is from Boston and an extreme fan, borderline crazy. I’ll hold off posting it to him until the Sox season is officially over. Crazier things have happened than if they were to go on a roll and win it all. Not that I expect them too, I just don’t gloat until the official end.

  234. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    JM September 28th, 2011 at 12:02 pm
    Thanks JCPD! Classic….

    In the same vein, here it is, once again (sorry but I can’t help myself):
    ——————————————
    JCPD-Thanks-just when I forgot Y-No-More- :)

    JM- The Red Sox are going to make the Greatest List-however it will be The MLB Team which had the Greatest Choke in the history of baseball.

  235. J. Alfred Prufrock September 28th, 2011 at 12:08 pm

    Montero already has hit 2HR in a game…no comparison between the players, one is headed for greatness and his name is not Lavernway.

  236. JCPD September 28th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    Sorry YT :-)

  237. upstate kate September 28th, 2011 at 12:11 pm

    thanks JM, for the Brewer info and again for that article :)

  238. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    The rule about division winners not facing the WC team from their own division is unfair as the team with the best record gets penalized”
    ————————————————————–
    That’s a good point.Maybe the teams with the best record in each league should be able to choose their opponent!

    If Texas plays the Rays or RS, especially the RS after a playoff for the WC, they are getting a very tired team.

  239. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    YankeesPR a wise choice by a wise man RT @Twins_morsecode Asked today who he thought should be the AL MVP, Gardy said @Robinson Cano

    :D

  240. Yankee Trader September 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm

    New Post—->

  241. mick September 28th, 2011 at 12:15 pm

    when salty went down i knew it was an advantage to the rs…

  242. Erin September 28th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    New Post

    :arrow:

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