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Lineup as expected for opener

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Sep 30, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Joe Girardi just met with the beat writers and said Alex Rodriguez’s knee is perfectly fine. No surprises in the Game 1 lineup.

Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada DH
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner LF

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403 Responses to “Lineup as expected for opener”

  1. hatfieldms September 30th, 2011 at 5:07 pm

    Is Tex batting fifth not a surprise?

  2. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:08 pm

    Go Yankees!

  3. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    No announcement is being made because Epstein is looking for a way to trade Francona to a team like the Cubs for pitching.

  4. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:15 pm

    Though it’s still very early and he’s got a lot of work to do – I do like the changes tex has made from the left side to get more closed and square up his base.

    Let’s hope it helps him improve against RH pitching.

  5. FI Flyer September 30th, 2011 at 5:16 pm

    No sound on TBS High Def feed on Time Warner.

    Oddly, the sound on ESPN radio is a few seconds ahead of the pictures on TimeWarner 708. Not pleasant. Or promising.

  6. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    repost:

    Just got in and have a few thoughts to share before I hunker down and start watching postseason baseball

    1. No announcement about Tito leaves me to belief the pondscum organization is probably floating a test balloon. If there is enough outrage, they may very well say they had no intention of firing Tito. There is no other reason whatsoever for them to be dragging their feet.

    2. Because I am so psyched for the postseason and the events of this week I decided to treat myself to Wholefoods (they’re more expensive than I like so I don’t go there often). Well they are such a birkenstockesque company that the last thing on their minds is whether or not the Sux made it into the postseason. As such, they had no difficulty offering “Manhattan clamchowder” as one of their offerings today. Of course, I bought some.

    3. Rooting for the Rays today just because I’m sure it appears to be a David and Goliath game and I am always for the David except when we’re the Goliath (and the games aren’t meaningless and/or have to implications about the Sux going down) ha ha

    There’s always been something underhanded about the group of Sux owners. I’m going to track it down a little further before I present my evidence.

    GO YANKS!!!

  7. Don Vito A. Bellamo September 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    Yankees win game 1, 7-1, Book it, DAN-O ! :-)

  8. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm

    The biggest bat in the Yankee line-up that needs to step up is Rodriguez. He has to force the pitchers to pitch to Cano.

  9. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Ian Kinsler is a terrific fastball hitter.

    Matt Moore just threw Kinsler 8 straight fastball – 8 – and Kinsler still couldn’t square a pitch up and was late even on that last swing.

  10. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:19 pm

    Moore is throwing gas

  11. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    Moore is going to be a nightmare to face next year all year

  12. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:21 pm

    disgusting CU

  13. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    Maddon in the dugout telling jokes. That guy is loving life right now

  14. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:22 pm

    What phenomenal pitching.

    Keeps busting guys with the fastball. Andrus finally starts to catch up and sits fastball pulling the ball hard foul.

    Moore then puts him away with a beautiful power change low and away.

    He is ridiculously talented.

    His secondary stuff may be better than Price’s.

  15. Warning Track Power September 30th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but personally I am slowly getting fired up and nervous
    about the 2011 playoffs.

  16. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:23 pm

    Tito and Reagins officially gone.

  17. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    I didn’t see the game when Moore faced the Yankees.

    His stuff is crazy good. Actually, that’s probably an understatement.

    Impressive inning.

  18. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:26 pm

    I think his secondary stuff probably is better than Price’s…..it’s light years ahead of where Price was at that age. He’s one of the most polished guys coming out of the minors I’ve seen…..and he wouldn’t even be up if Boston hadn’t fallen apart

  19. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:27 pm

    @JeffPassan: I just wrote a column on Tony Reagins’ resignation from the Angels. It went like this: Vernon Wells. -30-

  20. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    The red sox ax Tito through a late friday afternoon press release just as game 1 of the ALDS starts.

    No presser early in the day.

    Let’s bury the bad news like a good politician would late friday afternoon.

    Stay classy john henry.

    Can’t wait to see your next free agent signing wearing a liverpool tie at this introductory press conference.

  21. BJK September 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    “We all plan on taking some time to process the thoughts expressed in the meeting. There are no immediate plans for an announcement.” – Epstein statement earlier today.

    So in Boston speak, “taking some time to process” + “no immediate plans for an announcement” = 4 Hours.

  22. Mike_Boston September 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Curious if people would trade Montero for Moore?

  23. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    game one of the ALDS is the most nervous i get all playoffs. Got no idea to what to expect and how were going to come out playing. Will feel a lot more confident in ours efforts going into game 2 and the rest of the playoffs.

  24. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    Madden may be the only manager in baseball that would have actually started the kid in this game.

  25. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm

    It’s strange that Joe chose now to make the change – Tex should never be batting third in this lineup.

    I really hope Alex is healthy because if he is, he is a guy who I feel will carry this team.

    Expecting another huge post-season from Grandy.

    We can’t win unless CC turns things around.

  26. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    @ScottMCBSSports: Nice job by #Angels and #RedSox waiting until first inning of first playoff game to make major news announcements. You can’t hide, guys

  27. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    I just tuned into the Ray/sRangers game. Yay! We don’t have Buck Martinez!!!!!

    LOL

  28. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    young pitcher with all these tools to be a ace > young mashing catcher.

  29. BJK September 30th, 2011 at 5:29 pm

    Is there going to be an uproar about the Francona announcement timing like there was when A-Rod opted out?

  30. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    The way the Rays keep churning out #1s, the Yankees had better keep up their end of the bargain. I don’t think we can afford to miss with both Betances and Banuelos – I suspect Betances is going to be a huge project, though.

  31. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    :)

    GO RAYS!!!!

  32. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    damon a 2 run blast!

  33. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Damon!!!!

  34. Triple Short of a Cycle September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Nice. Our boy Damon

  35. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    “Curious if people would trade Montero for Moore?”

    man what a question.

    Damon loves this time of year

  36. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Johnny!

    (But I hate the Rays)

  37. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm

    Moore is seriously ridiculous. I was expecting him to be great – but this is really ridiculous.

    I can’t even imagine minor leaguers trying to deal with this kid.

    On another note – let’s hope CJ Wilson makes a fine career in fenway.

  38. Yogi Mantle September 30th, 2011 at 5:31 pm

    Damon with a dinger.

    I miss that guy playing for the Yankees.

  39. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    mike_boston,

    I’m intentionally avoiding your excellent question. Probably because I love montero but my objective answer pains me…

  40. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    I’m hoping the Rangers win – not because they aren’t good, but because I can’t stand the Rays.

  41. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:32 pm

    Francona certainly didn’t deserve to be the fall guy for this…. this is the pound of flesh for their fanbase

  42. Mike_Boston September 30th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Tabbert,
    Wouldn’t you think that Manny B can be that guy too? Given that and the fact the big guy will be here for a long time, I take the young mashing catcher that can be the center piece of your lineup for the next 15 years.
    If you were starting from scratch than yeah I would take Moore, but given the Yanks situation I take Montero.

  43. Yogi Mantle September 30th, 2011 at 5:33 pm

    Watch the Rays take down the Rangers this year.

  44. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    “I’m intentionally avoiding your excellent question. Probably because I love montero but my objective answer pains me…”

    lol….that’s why I didn’t answer either….I know you’re answer but we don’t have to say it out loud

  45. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    Why is Gentry in LF and Hamilton in center?

  46. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    I don’t like the way Wilson throws the ball.

  47. Dano from England September 30th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    CB – what a pleasure to see you on here regularly, I’ve given the comments a miss most of the time due to, well, you all know why…..but please keep on here thru the postseason, it really helps us long-distance fans.

    Your Barca looking better and better, huh….

  48. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 5:34 pm

    that Johnny Damon sure is good.

    Wow – they announced Tito’s leaving in a press release?

    CC doesn’t have to turn around much. He hasn’t been CC-like, but he also hasn’t been awful in the last few starts. I expect CC to be there 100%.

  49. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    @JeffPassan
    Curious to see if the Angels give the new general manager his proper title: “Assistant to general manager Mike Scioscia.”

  50. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    LGY – how official is official?

  51. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    @brianmacp
    The statements from Red Sox ownership, Theo Epstein and Terry Francona: bit.ly/qUiz5U

  52. JobaTipsHisCap September 30th, 2011 at 5:35 pm

    What did I miss?
    5 mins into the game, rays 2-0?

  53. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Blake, no way………someone had mentioned that the Yanks should hire him. Well, I would love him instead of Girardi, but that’s not happening – but I wish we could hire him……..but he’s going to get a ton of offers. Good guy…………I don’t get why he should be blamed for the players not getting it done or the team not having sufficient depth to the point where they had to scour the big leagues to come up with maybe Bruce Chen.

    Mike, I take the pitcher 100% of the time

  54. BJK September 30th, 2011 at 5:36 pm

    Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:32 pm
    I’m hoping the Rangers win – not because they aren’t good, but because I can’t stand the Rays.

    ——————————————————————————–

    Other than what they did to Cervelli a few years ago, what’s not to like?

  55. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Manny has that smooth easy velocity like Moore…..but he doesn’t have the frame or likely projection to throw 97-98 mph. I think Manny has big time upside…..but maybe not as high as Moore and that’s certainly no knock on Banuelos….both kids have a chance to be great. Manny is 2 years younger and Moore was in low A ball at 20 years old…..for what that’s worth.

    When I saw the two pitch against each other earlier in the year…..the stuff difference wasn’t as apparent as just the polish and ability to challenge hitters that Moore has…..he’s just older and more experienced.

  56. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    Okay, it’s official. Even scummier than I thought. Timed perfectly to diffuse the situation.

  57. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:37 pm

    @brianmacp
    Ownership on Francona: “He was frustrated by his difficulty making an impact with the players, that a different voice was needed.”

  58. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    mike

    Think about this going forward though.

    Sabatha
    Moore
    Nova
    Hughes
    Betances/ man bam

    Later down the road…

    Moore
    Man Bam
    Nova
    Hughes
    Betances

    Now, if all of our young guys turn out to be what we hope they would become…. thats a nasty lineup.

    Rotation could go in any order… just putting it up there that way.

    Plus…. montero would become a start in tampa…. cost too much money and we would sign him via free agency. : )

  59. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    I like the Rays a lot. They’re a terrific success story.

  60. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 5:38 pm

    I don’t like The Rangers manager. I heard a sound byte yesterday that just rubbed me the wrong way.

    One reason I won’t want to face the Rays is the turf and the Trop in general. I hate that place. Even though Yankees would have HFA.

    But I don’t care who the Yankees ultimately face, as long as they face somebody after the Tigers.

    Betances needs some seasoning, but I don’t think he’s a major project. And I think the couple of weeks he spent with the ML club has already helped him in ways you can’t measure.

  61. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Wowee!!!

  62. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    CJ Wilson is over-rated. ;)

  63. Triple Short of a Cycle September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Anyone else having trouble falling the ball with all the shadows? Its awful

  64. JobaTipsHisCap September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Ok, 3-0

    I have no problem withrays

  65. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Right, Sox…….so you can’t get rid of the players, so change the manager. How creative – maybe change the GM who signed these players. I feel for Tito…..except that maybe he’s happier now.

  66. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Dano!

    Hello – how are you my friend. It’s been such a long time. Nice to see you pop in from across the pond.

    I’ve stopped in here from time to time – left comments when the hand grenades being tossed around quieted down.

    But if people are going to talk baseball and not get into petty fights – I’m happy to talk baseball. Still have some great people here.

    And I feel much better that you’re still willing to greet me warmly after the anarchy of l’affaire fabregas…

    Barca looks very, very good. Guardiola intentionally avoids complacency by forcing the team to evolve.

    And honestly – they are going to get much better by the end of the season.

    Alexis Sanchez is going to make them significantly better once he recovers from injury and gets integrated.

  67. Triple Short of a Cycle September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    *Following

  68. hardwired7 September 30th, 2011 at 5:39 pm

    Trouble in Antlerville?

  69. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    Young ,low cost, controlled pitchers is the greatest value in baseball. Love montero…. but young pitching is way more important in my mind. Yankees will never struggle to score.

  70. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    The Rays are riding the emotion from the other night…..I’m pulling for the Rays because I can’t stand Texas and I give them props for what they’ve done this year…..and for having the stones to put Moore on the mound in Game 1.

  71. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    “What did I miss?
    5 mins into the game, rays 2-0?”

    10 minutes into the game 3-0.

    :)

  72. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    3-0 Rays! Niiice.

  73. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 5:40 pm

    We have to thank Gardenhire and Maddon for walking Cano recently otherwise Girardi never would have made the switch. If they didn’t Leyland definitely would have walked Cano to face Swish with guys on base. In a big spot or late in the game I wouldn’t be surprised to see Arod walked to face Tex, Swish and Posada. 2 of those 3 guys have to hit in this series.

  74. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    blake — all of that

  75. BJK September 30th, 2011 at 5:41 pm

    “We met this morning to look back on the 2011 season and to consider the future of the Boston Red Sox, including my involvement with the club. I passed along my frustrations at my inability to effectively reach the players. After many conversations and much consideration, I ultimately felt that, out of respect to this team, it was time for me to move on.” – Terry Francona

    Translation: “Get me on a team where I don’t have to put up with the antics of Lackey, Beckett, Youkilis, Papelbon and now apparently Ortiz.”

  76. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    from a rangers forum…

    anyone read this yet….http://espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs/2011…n-world-series

    More important, the descriptions of them went like this: “Most complete team” … “most balanced team” … “greatest depth” … “match up with anyone” … etc., etc.

    The difference between the Rangers and Yankees, one NL exec said, is that the Yankees HAVE to have CC pitch well and HAVE to bludgeon you to win. But Texas “doesn’t HAVE to win any one way. They don’t have any certain formula they need to follow to try to win games. They can beat you in so many different ways.”

  77. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm

    Those rooting for the Rays won’t be too happy if we escape the Tigers and have to face that pitching staff

  78. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Francona putting all the blame on himself for that mess…..

  79. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    42 pitches for wilson already…. he had 8 or 9 in the first inning.

  80. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Watching this game is getting me nervous for the Yankees game tonight

  81. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:43 pm

    Big inning here for Moore.

  82. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    “They don’t have any certain formula they need to follow to try to win games. They can beat you in so many different ways.”

    hogwash..

  83. hardwired7 September 30th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    “It went like this: Vernon Wells. -30-”

    You’d have to have taken some Journalism courses to appreciate this.

    ‘dash 30 dash’ symbolizes the end of a press release.

  84. BJK September 30th, 2011 at 5:44 pm

    Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
    Those rooting for the Rays won’t be too happy if we escape the Tigers and have to face that pitching staff

    ——————————————————————

    Texas won’t be a walk in the park either should we get to the ALCS.

  85. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    If I were the yankees I would do everything in my power to hire Francona as a consultant.

    I would give him an almost blank check.

    Tito can have any job he wants – but he shoudn’t just get back into managing. Too early. He should take a year unless he feels he just can’t pass on a chicago job.

    And because Francona technically wasn’t fired – his options just weren’t picked up – Francona can chose to do what he wants. Can’t have any kind of non-compete issues.

  86. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Those rooting for the Rays won’t be too happy if we escape the Tigers and have to face that pitching staff

    —–

    But you’ll be happy to face the Rangers?

  87. Yogi Mantle September 30th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    What a class organization to put out the statement of Francona and the Red Sox parting ways after the first game of the ALDS starts.

    I wonder which party was the driving force of that. The talk in the story makes it sound that the RS weren’t happy with Francona’s leadership, that improvements needed to be made. It also sounds as if Francona wasn’t all that happy there and wanted out.

  88. Nick in SF September 30th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    Is that Orsillo doing the PBP? It sounds just like him but with a piece of his soul missing, as if he’s been through some horrible experience from which he will never fully recover.

    (I’m pro-Rays today and today only. A loss by a single run would be fine)

  89. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Thanks hardwired. I actually was wondering what that was.

  90. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    The Rays don’t scare me in an ALCS…….but if Matt Moore contains his emotions and lets his ability work then it’s a huge upgrade over Niemann.

  91. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    Tabbert, I can’t speak to whether that’s true about the Rangers, but it is true about the Yankees.

  92. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    This can’t be happening. Mitch the Wild Thing Williams said the Rangers were unbeatable.

    Those experts are always right, aren’t they? lol

  93. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 5:46 pm

    The Yankees have beaten that pitching staff before.

    I just don’t like the turf in Tampa because it may cause Alex to miss a game or have to DH.

  94. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    francona should not be blamed for what went down in boston.

    Not even joe maddon could get a positive team chemistry going in boston.

    Yankees signed soriano ( despite personality problems) because they knew that the team had great chemistry and that sori would not mess with that. You have to place blame on a GM for putting all of those personalities on the same roster. It is his job to put together a team. The gritty sox have turned into a roster full of pre madonna’s.

  95. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 5:47 pm

    Wilson is losing millions every run he gives up today.

  96. hardwired7 September 30th, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    No problem, LGY.

    That is literally the only time my Journalism minor has come in handy.

  97. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    LGY, you can be happy to face the Rays but I can’t be happy to face the Rangers? Anyway, you continue to twist my comments when I never said that. I just don’t get why everyone wants the Rays to win because apparently they’d be an easy out for the Yankees? The Yankees are going to have a hard enough time with the Tigers, but if they do make it through, I don’t relish facing either team. I’m not scared – I don’t give a hoot who we play. I’m just not going to root for the supposedly easier team when that team has the pitching

  98. Dano from England September 30th, 2011 at 5:48 pm

    CB – well, Cesc was always going to go. Don’t think Barca handled it great, but such is the murky world of soccer transfers. He’s a great player, and the way the Arsenal are playing, we sure miss him!

    Matt Moore looks good, huh?

  99. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    just blew Cruz away…..no chance.

  100. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Tito and Epstein agree that “Higher Standards are needed in the clubhouse”

    What the heck does that mean.

    No drinking anymore during the games I guess…

  101. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Wow.

  102. TheStraw September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    How psyched am I….SWB to play 37 games in Rochester next season….I can get a good look at ManBan and other prospects.

  103. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Moore is unbelievable.

    Look at the downwards plane he gets on the ball while still throwing that hard.

    You never see left handers throw like that.

    I’m trying to think of the last pitcher who impressed me this way – and the only name that’s coming up is strasburg.

  104. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    BJK, I never said that. I just don’t get why everyone thinks the Rays would be such an easy out. I think the teams are all very evenly matched – I do not think one team stands out. They can all win, they can all lose and it wouldn’t be a surprise.

  105. brownies September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Whoa this kid moore is throwing 97 as he did vs NY.

  106. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Betsy-

    I’m not rooting for either the rangers or the rays. Its the playoffs…. my only concern is the yankees. I want to focus on just getting passed the tigers.

  107. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm

    Boy this kid is gooooo- ooood.

    Glad to see it wasn’t just the Yankees that had a hard time with him…. :)

    As to the trade proposal – the Rays aren’t trading this arm away anytime soon, so we get to keep Montero.

  108. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Peralta is a scary 8th hitter in that Les Tigre lineup

  109. 108 stitches September 30th, 2011 at 5:50 pm

    Francona will still be with the Sox. Once Ozzie Guillen left for Florida a field manager’s job became ripe for the taking and Francona will be well received in Chicago with previous ties to their organization.

  110. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    I think the Rays are going to struggle once their starters leave and the bullpen guys are in the game. Their bullpen isn’t deep or that good. I know he has had a good year but I can’t believe that Farnsworth is a play off teams closer. It will be interesting to see how he does when he comes in to close a game.

  111. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    Betsy

    How do you know people are rooting for the Rays because they’re easier?

    Blake summed it up quite well. The Rays a very likeable imo.

    On the other hand I can’t stand most of the Rangers and their stupid antler stuff.

  112. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    I don’t even know what Tito would do as a consultant – he’s a manager, not a GM type. While I would love it just to stick it to the Sox, I’m not sure what he would do. Plus, having him around would probably make Joe feel insecure given that the Yankees would have an in-house replacement for him.

  113. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:51 pm

    key inning for wilson right here…. He HAS to have a quick economical inning.

  114. BJK September 30th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:49 pm
    BJK, I never said that. I just don’t get why everyone thinks the Rays would be such an easy out. I think the teams are all very evenly matched – I do not think one team stands out. They can all win, they can all lose and it wouldn’t be a surprise.

    ——————————————————————————

    I agree on that. That’s why I was curious why you hated the Rays so much. I think both the Rays and Rangers would be equally challenging.

  115. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    did Moore have this velocity last year or is this a recent development?

  116. Triple Short of a Cycle September 30th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    I was hoping to land Moore in the 11th round next year in fantasy. Don’t know if that’s going to happen now

  117. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:52 pm

    LGY, ok, it doesn’t matter to me. I don’t get the likeability quotient…..and also, I’ve seen tons of posts recently saying that the Rays aren’t that good, their lineup stinks, etc…. That’s tantamount to saying the Rays are an easy mark.

  118. Yogi Mantle September 30th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    CJ Wilson isn’t exactly pitching a gem. That will affect his up coming contract.

  119. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    Pete was saying how Tony Pena and Rob Thompson could be candidates for Francona’s job but I’d call that extremely premature. Would the Yanks let one of their own go to pursue a bigger opportunity in boston? Not sure but probably.

  120. Triple Short of a Cycle September 30th, 2011 at 5:53 pm

    I hate Nolan Ryan and everything else that has to do with Texas so the decision to root for Tampa was easy for me

  121. hardwired7 September 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Francona should take a year or two to decompress.

    He’s been put through the wringer, and he’s not the world’s healthiest man.

    Maybe he should take the conventional route and call games until the perfect spot opens up. He has a natural sense of humor. He would be great at it, imho.

  122. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    i get thats the rays are likeable to a lot of people because they have gone from awful to a powerhouse and don’t spend money. But, how can the rays be likeable for yankee fans? They are a RIVAL, and a threat to take us out every year. I don’t find any team in the AL EAST likeable. Hate them all.

  123. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm

    Dano,

    As well as I thought Cesc would do (and I never thought he was going to just sit on the bench. Pep wanted him for so long – he had plans for him) – he’s been even more impressive.

    His movement and runs from deep are staggering. His partnership with messi in that dynamic 3-4-3 is just beautiful. It really does feel like they just picked up and started playing again from when they were 13.

    Arsenal is in transition – and with City’s emergence and spending power it will be tough for arsenal. But I think they’ll do well. Glad Wenger stayed (your feelings on this?)

    I like Aaron Ramsey quite a bit. He needs more time but I like his game. Wilshere of course is wilshere – just needs to get healthy. I also like Frimpong a lot. Very impressed with how he’s played – just needs maturity and composure.

  124. NYJim September 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    This is the first year in the past decade that I believe that the talking heads are pretty much declaring the Yankees the underdogs. For the past decade or so, at least according to the media, the Yankees were always considered the favorite going into the first round of the playoffs, but they always had that one achilles heel that the writers felt the matchup could exploit (age, defense, homer happiness, lack of bridge to Mo, etc.). Even with the favorite label, these same writers would predict an upset, an early exit for the Yankees who were built to bludgeon during regular season, but left wanting in the post season. This year I am finding very few sports writers who think NY has a shot in this series. For once, NY is the underdog!! I actually kinda like that…show em Yanks!

  125. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Betsy

    I do think the Rays are an easier opponent. But that’s only part of the reason I’m rooting for them.

  126. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    BJK, I don’t know why I should like the Rays. They were punkish a few years ago with the Cervelli incident in ST, they were punkish when Maddon walked Tex to face Alex so he wouldn’t lead the league in HRs (because Pena blamed CC for hitting him)……..I don’t see why they are so likeable? They aren’t to me…. if they are to others, that’s perfectly fine. I also am envious of their ridiculous ability to develop frontline starters……….and real aces, not just even #2 types.

  127. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:55 pm

    Now watch TB approach Moore with a 6 year 25 million dollar contract offer with 2 friendly club options and him take it.

  128. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    I would never trust CJ on a 5+ year contract(which is what he will get) and out of Texas.

  129. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:56 pm

    LGY, you’re certainly entitled. The only team I root for his the Yankees – I never root for another team…….MAYBE the Pirates because I have a soft spot in my heart for them, but I only care about the Yankees winning. Since I’m already nervous enough and not that confident that we are going to get into the ALCS, I can’t waste any time paying attention to other series…….I know myself very well, lol

  130. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    “did Moore have this velocity last year or is this a recent development?”

    blake,

    He always threw very hard. Last season he took a huge step up though with his control.

    At some point around 1/3 or 1/2 of the 2009-2010 season his controlled just completely took off. He went from like walking 6/9 to 3/9 – it was something like that.

    This season he just kept building on that.

  131. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    The Rays are just jumping all over Texas….the are the aggressor……and it starts with the Rangers just being overwhelmed by a rookie they’ve never seen before.

  132. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    I would love to see Gardner lay down some bunts in this series. Since he hasn’t been hitting he has to do other things to get on base.

  133. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 5:57 pm

    I have also noticed that most people are favoring the tigers. It’s like a lot of writers only thing its the rays, rangers, and tigers. Funny because we finished with the best record in the AL playing in the AL EAST. Not to mention, we didn’t have arod for half the season. But, hey… we will prove them all wrong. Won’t take them long to realize how good we really are.

  134. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 5:58 pm

    Clutch, Wilson is very good, but I’m tired of the Yankees handing out long term deals to pitchers. Would he be a real #2 in the East? Who knows? I think we just need to ride it out and hope some of our youngsters develop.

  135. blake September 30th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    CB,

    thanks….I was wondering which way it was ….

  136. CB September 30th, 2011 at 5:59 pm

    “Now watch TB approach Moore with a 6 year 25 million dollar contract offer with 2 friendly club options and him take it.”

    Seriously. This is going to be so painful for the Yanks – but I have to say – he is so much fun to watch.

    His stuff is pretty close to kershaw’s. Not quite – but not that far.

  137. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    WOW… 6-0

  138. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Kelly Shoppach :shock:

  139. blake September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    nice catch by the fan…..Wilson getting torched by a team that can’t hit a lick

  140. BJK September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Wow.

  141. Yogi Mantle September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Tampon Bay with another dinger dead center.

    Wilson is not pitching well.

  142. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm

    Devil Rays are outRangering the Rangers

  143. montec24 September 30th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Cue the complaints about how the Yankees played with fate by letting Tampa make it into the playoffs over the Sox.

  144. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    I really dislike the Rangers so it’s nice to see Tampa jump all over them. They act like they are 5 years old with that antler crap and one year of success gave them too much confidence.

  145. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Yankees players like to put the screws to their teams- other teams? Their players have no problem giving their team a deal.

  146. CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    Who we root for as fans has absolutely no bearing on the outcome of games. None.

    Why people are so intent on telling other fans who to root for and who they should be wary of is just bizarrely arrogant.

  147. Yogi Mantle September 30th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    The Rays are a streaky team. They are riding high right now from their return from the dead.

  148. blake September 30th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    CB,

    all we can hope is that we’re watching something similar with Banuelos in a couple years

  149. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    This is why I was pretty nervous about Tampa getting in. They have the best staff in the AL and that offense was sub-par during the season but is very, very hot right now. If they take this game they are in the drivers seat with Shields, and Price coming up.

  150. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 6:02 pm

    “Those rooting for the Rays won’t be too happy if we escape the Tigers and have to face that pitching staff”

    Betsy, I heard the same thing from somebody, I believe it was Tabbert, when I was rooting for the demise of the Sux. I don’t root for or against a team because I do or don’t want to face them at some point in the future! I root for a team because it’s the team I want to win in the situation. I don’t look beyond that. I don’t particularly care who the Yankees face.

    And anyway, I should want my Yankees to face the best because the Yankees are the best. So whoever wins any series and ends up facing the Yanks, I’m down with it.

    I love the Rays, their spunk, and what Maddon continues to do with that team.

  151. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 6:03 pm

    I don’t think the Rays are likeable.

    I don’t care who the Yankees face next, as long as there is a next!!!

    But I like that the kid is doing a great job here. And I really don’t like the Rangers. Don’t like the claws and antlers, don’t like Ron Washington. But I don’t care who we face next.

    I like that the Rays are winning because some said they wouldn’t win a game.

    I guess I just like to be contra-

  152. Joe from Long Island September 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    “inability to reach the players.”

    Well, that’s one way to put it. He’s made it clear, to anyone with a brain, that he was not a happy man in that clubhouse. It makes it sound like he was happy to get out, believing that he can get another job, either in the dugout or in a TV studio.

    Hire Tito as a Yankees’ consultant? That might yield some insights into the Red Sox team, as well as really irk John-Boy. Might be worth the $$.

  153. Yogi Mantle September 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 6:01 pm

    I really dislike the Rangers so it’s nice to see Tampa jump all over them. They act like they are 5 years old with that antler crap and one year of success gave them too much confidence.
    ++++++++++

    The same could be said about the Rays. The playing dress up for trips, the recent success due to getting so many early picks. Both teams are quite similar in that regard.

  154. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    http://espn.go.com/blog/new-yo.....t-in-order

    Joe Girardi said right-hander Phil Hughes can be used in either short relief or as a long man in the ALDS.

    But in all likelihood, Hughes will be used as the Yankees’ long-guy.

    **I don’t understand how Hughes can be used as a long man at all since he’s not stretched out; I really see AJ filling that role……..but hopefully we don’t need him

  155. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    “Why people are so intent on telling other fans who to root for and who they should be wary of is just bizarrely arrogant”

    It definitely hits me the same way. I never tell people who they should want to face. We went through this when the Yanks were playing the Rays.

  156. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 6:04 pm

    The rays have a bright, bright, future… and they are loaded with young pitching.

    Their biggest problem will be holding on to their power bats for long periods of time.
    Also, this team will have a hard time putting together a great bullpen year after year with the way relievers get paid these days. Not to mention, the rays don’t have much room for error. If they get any sort of injury bug it could be a season ending for them. They don’t have near the resources, or veteran depth to make up for injuries like a lot of the big market teams do.

  157. CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Blake,

    I hope so. I really love Manny and think he’s going to be great if he stays healthy. He clearly has a #1 ceiling.

    The Rays just do such a great job of identifying and developing talent.

    I posted about this several seasons ago – but I was hoping that Friedman would be the guy to replace Cashman. Friedman then signed an extension a few months later.

    They are just a pain – but in a good way. It’s good for the game.

    And Moore was what – 8th round pick I think.

  158. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
    Who we root for as fans has absolutely no bearing on the outcome of games. None.

    Why people are so intent on telling other fans who to root for and who they should be wary of is just bizarrely arrogant.

    ————————————————————————————————————————-

    After rooting for the Yankees for 57 years and now you tell me that I didn’t help them win? What am I living for if not to help the yanks to win?

  159. RMS September 30th, 2011 at 6:05 pm

    Other than what they did to Cervelli a few years ago, what’s not to like?

    ====================================================
    Tex and Pena were tied for the HR lead and Pena was out for the year. Maddon would not let his pitchers pitch to Tex, giving him no chance to win the HR title. And a couple of pitches went over Tex’s head. Those were the last games of the year, so they wound up tied for the HR lead. Maddon showed me he has no class with that move.

  160. Nick in SF September 30th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    It would be fun to wipe the smirk off Maddon’s face, but I think I’d get a little more personal satisfaction from beating the Rangers in the next round, should be be so fortunate as to make it there.

    But for today, go Rays!

  161. Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    The Rangers look like they are really having trouble with the shadows

  162. NYJim September 30th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    This is going to be a battle. This is a good Detroit team, but the Yanks are up to the challenge. I feel pretty good knowing that, while the Tigers are the only team in their division with a better than .500 record, and they spent the final month of the season beating up on the Twins, Royals, Athletics, White Sox and Indians, the Yankees spent most of their month dealing with the Rays, the Red Sox, the Angels, and Blue Jays.

    I am pumped to see this play out!

  163. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 6:06 pm

    Holy Cow.

    Moore is good.

    However, if I’m a pitcher on the Tampa staff, I’m looking at my contract situation and wondering if I’m the one to be traded to make room….

  164. blake September 30th, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    nasty CU

  165. Triple Short of a Cycle September 30th, 2011 at 6:07 pm

    In the book about the Rays (Extra 2 percent) they mentioned some system they have to gauge when a pitcher stands the greatest chance of getting hurt while on the mound to better know when to lift the pitcher.

    Seems to be working. Seems like their starters never get hurt

  166. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    Captain Clutch September 30th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
    The Rangers look like they are really having trouble with the shadows
    ————————————-

    That was a big reason that Maddon went with Moore I believe. The Rangers have never seen him before and the ball just explodes on the hitter. Dealing with him in the shadows is brutal. Smart move by Maddon. Don’t like the guy but he’s pushing the right buttons here.

  167. CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:08 pm

    GB7,

    You are of course the exception :)

    I was really referring to games in which the yankees aren’t playing.

    Whether anyone roots for the rays, rangers or no one has no bearing on the yankees chances of winning the world series.

  168. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Joe from LI, that sounds like a carefully worded press release written up by the Sux organization, probably presented to Tito as a way he could save face and have it appear he was not fired. One of those “You can decide to leave on your own or you can hang around to get fired. We have no problem in having it appear that you were the one who decided it was time to go. And it’s probably better for your career to do it this way.”

    One of the oldest organizational tricks in the book, especially an organization in tatters that doesn’t want to take responsibility for the tatters.

  169. Joe from Long Island September 30th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    I know it’s Friedman who gets the credit. But, is it Friedman who actually identifies the talent, or the scouting dept? I’m happy to give him credit, but, it may be just as a chief, who’s recruited scouting and development talent and let them do their job. Which, to my opinion, still deserves credit as too, too many people screw that up.

  170. kd September 30th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    how tall is matt moore?

    any chance manban looks this good?

    what did people think of dellin’s start? honestly, he kinda reminds me of, i hate to say it, curt schilling.

    if he cleans up, he might be a force. seems like he has less work to do than aj

  171. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:09 pm

    Villa-

    I bet they try to move Niemann or Davis. There were a lot of rumors that they were trying to trade Niemann for Rasmus.

  172. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    Why it matters to some people what others are discussing with other posters is beyond me……..I would call that bizarrely arrogant. Of course, someone might want to point out where someone actually said that they don’t think people should be rooting for a particular team.

  173. Benny Blanco September 30th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    The ball just seems to come out of Moores hand so easily and hes throwing 97 what looks like without any effort at all!!!!

  174. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 6:10 pm

    “Cue the complaints about how the Yankees played with fate by letting Tampa make it into the playoffs over the Sox”

    :lol:

  175. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    kd-

    I’m by no means an expert on Banuelos but from what I’ve heard he doesn’t have the velocity of Moore. He can bring it up that high but he sits a bit lower. The thing I always here is his poise on the mound and his guile. For some reason I look at him and see a young Johan Santana. That’s a lot to live up to but I think both Banuelos and Moore are going to be great. New York is a lot tougher though for a young pitcher than Tampa.

  176. Dano from England September 30th, 2011 at 6:11 pm

    CB – Ramsey, Wilshere, Frimpong – all promising/good, but no Cescs.
    I am glad Arsene stayed, for sure, but the fanbase is muttering. Not enough strong characters there. Too many kids.

    We’ll be back!

  177. CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    “I know it’s Friedman who gets the credit. But, is it Friedman who actually identifies the talent, or the scouting dept?”

    Very good point joe.

    A highly under rated individual in Tampa is – ironically – Gerry Hunsicker. I believe he oversees their talent development.

  178. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    Matt Moore is listed as 6’2” by the way.

  179. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    The yanks bascially lost marte, joba, felicano…. but had the depth of robertson and others, had the money to pay soriano to still put together one of the best bullpens in baseball. The Rays, while full of young talent… don’t have the ability to do such a thing on a yearly basis. Then again, everyone said their bullpen would stink this year…. and they performed well. So, who knows. Not much negative things to say about the rays going forward.

  180. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 6:12 pm

    No Antlers or Claws today suckers

  181. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    I always play with Arsenal in Fifa 10 lol. Theo is almost unstoppable in that game due to his speed. Doesn’t hurt that they still have Nasri and Fabregas too :)

  182. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 6:13 pm

    Tyler, the Yankees have their best successes with youngsters who have no hype – Cano, Wang, Nova. Let’s see how they handle Banuelos…..or if he progresses. Not every pitcher with frontline ceiling turns into a frontline pitcher.

  183. Joe from Long Island September 30th, 2011 at 6:14 pm

    1. trish – you’re right, of course. And Tito knows enough to take the high road, here. But, to me, the best thing would be for the Red Sox to actually believe the problem was Tito’s, not the team or their strategy. That would continue on their course to well-deserved oblivion……

    2. Just saw Billy Ripken on MLB say that Red Sox just need some one “smart enough” to win with them. Billy Ripken lives in an alternate universe.

  184. CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Oh I see. So innaccurately summarizing what someone said and then making snarky and rude comments about it for no reason is the wrong thing to do.

    Got it.

  185. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:08 pm
    GB7,

    You are of course the exception

    I was really referring to games in which the yankees aren’t playing.

    Whether anyone roots for the rays, rangers or no one has no bearing on the yankees chances of winning the world series.

    ————————————————————————————————————————

    CB, that’s good news for me. You just proved a lot of people wrong on here about me being good for nothing.

    I’ve got to sit down and figure out what me 2011 and lifetime FWAR (Fan Wins Against Replacement) is

  186. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    The Rays are in the playoffs because of the demise of the Red Sox. They played fairly well down the stretch, but they really didn’t have to over-achieve to get here.

    Maddon didn’t do anything exceedingly special.

    But I will give him kudos for starting Moore today.

  187. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:15 pm

    Betsy-

    That’s because of the expectations of New York. I think it’s a very underrated aspect of a player’s development. It’s much more difficult to come up in NYC than in Tampa. I think they handled Banuelos well this year. Give him another season in AAA and he will likely be a September callup next year. Eventually a couple of these young starters will have to be moved.

  188. Bronx Jeers September 30th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    “Hire Tito as a Yankees’ consultant? That might yield some insights into the Red Sox team,…”

    ———————————————-

    Not for nothin Joe but my thinking is that ignorance is bliss in terms of Soxian insight. :wink:

  189. Tabbert September 30th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    Verlander Vs Cano
    Sabathia Vs Miggy

    That just = the price of admission.

  190. Benny Blanco September 30th, 2011 at 6:16 pm

    I’m focused on my team.

  191. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Joe-

    Being Billy Ripkin is tough lol. Thanksgiving provides a lot of emotional scares looking across the table and seeing Cal wearing his HOF Induction t-shirt.

  192. austinmac September 30th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Banuelos is a very good prospect, but Moore throws 97-98 and Manny is 92-93 , as I understand it. Moore reminds me of a left handed Gooden. Time will tell.

  193. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 6:17 pm

    Joe from LI, they probably think they have a few things to change but I wouldn’t be surprised if they are putting the majority of the oweness on Tito.

  194. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    I see……insisting that someone root for the Rays because they must be likeable to everyone – sure you’re tolerant. You claim you don’t like it when fights break out here, but you started this because you can’t stand for anyone to have another opinion. Hypocrite.

  195. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:18 pm

    Manny is also 2 years younger than Moore. Not a huge difference but still significant at this stage of their careers.

  196. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Kind’ve sucks for Washington that Lee is still a Ranger.

    Sorry but Wilson just isn’t dominant.

  197. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    and that would be is NOT not is

  198. Betsy September 30th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Tyler, after what’s happened to Phil and Joba, I’m just going to wait and see about our kids. I don’t think you can blame pitchers not reaching their ceiling on NY…….

  199. CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:19 pm

    Dano,

    As strange as this might sound – I almost came to think that Cesc being such a rare talent was almost becoming a hindrance for Arsenal.

    Their entire system was so based on him (particularly his interplay with van Persie) – and then he just kept getting hurt. And Arsenal would functionally have to play a different system.

    I don’t know. He just couldn’t stay on the pitch enough to be the center piece for a team. Perhaps it was just the EPL. Or maybe arsenal really needs to critically rethink its training program to keep players healthy.

    I thought they did well with Nasri. I didn’t see him as being fundamental. And he’s an odd guy.

  200. 4 NYY September 30th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    Moore reminds me of Steve Avery

  201. trisha - true pinstriped blue September 30th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    “Maddon didn’t do anything exceedingly special.”

    Just lost his entire bullpen and his star outfielder but managed to motivate his team to hang in there long enough to erase a 9 game deficit as of September 2. And it may surprise you to know that the Rays had to win games because otherwise the downfall of the Sux would have had no effect. And oh yeah, he did it with a payroll of somewhere around $49 mil.

  202. Joe from Long Island September 30th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    really, gerry hunsicker? guess he got smart once he left the mets.

  203. kd September 30th, 2011 at 6:20 pm

    thanks tyler.

    i tried watching his minor league games as much as i could, stupid job. he really looks like a kid with great stuff that needs to fill out. he’s just so young. unless there’s a huge need for him, i’m all for taking a patient approach and letting him get a full year or more in aaa.

    gb,

    love the fwar. gotta be the joke of the day. well payed, sir

  204. MG September 30th, 2011 at 6:21 pm

    It’s nice to see the blog back talking baseball instead of rooting against their team or reveling in the losses of someone else.

    I took a welcome 3 day break from reading any of it and am ready for the postseason to end with #28.

    tonight will be an interesting matchup, I’m looking for the Yankees to make Verlander work his butt off and get him out by the 7th whether they score more than a few runs or not.

    I’m also looking for CC to be at his best in a game where the Yankees need him to be.

  205. Tyler September 30th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Betsy-

    You can’t blame it on NY 100% but I think it’s definitely a factor. There are many different things that go into player (especially pitcher) development.

  206. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2011 at 6:22 pm

    Banuelos at maturity should fall into the Ron Guidry-David Robertson size…around 5’11 and 190. At 190 pounds and refining his delivery, he should be able to reach 97 MPH at times and stay around 96 whenever he needs it. He’ll be just fine with at least quality pitches.

  207. blake September 30th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    Hung one there to Hamilton….first real mistake…wasn’t a terrible curveball but rolled a little

  208. UnKnown September 30th, 2011 at 6:23 pm

    RochieWBZ Dan Roche
    by PeteAbe
    Lucchino tells @wbznewsradio that John Henry was involved in minor accident on his yacht but was ok. JH on way to hospital now.

    Ouch, Karma?

  209. CB September 30th, 2011 at 6:24 pm

    Betsy,

    Goodness. My comment wasn’t even directed at you. I wasn’t even following who was saying what precisely.

    I just saw this back and forth and didn’t even know who said what until you singed out something I said.

    My goodness. Believe me – I have no desire to comment on anything you say as you take such exception to it and if I knew this was something personal with you in particular I would have avoided saying anything.

  210. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    Sorry. I disagree about Maddon. They were not expected to reach the playoffs. His GM said as much. They planned September thinking the would not reach the playoffs.

    They would not have reached the playoffs had Boston not collapsed.

    Maddon did a good job. Not an exceedingly good job.

    No better than Girardi had to do with the circumstances he dealt with all season.

  211. kd September 30th, 2011 at 6:25 pm

    gb,

    manban becoming ron guidry version 2.0 would be a great thing for yankee fans.

  212. Nick in SF September 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    “Lucchino tells @wbznewsradio that John Henry was involved in minor accident on his yacht but was ok. JH on way to hospital now.”

    Pfffft, I broke this story last week!

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/9.....hotostream

  213. blake September 30th, 2011 at 6:26 pm

    dumb baserunning

  214. Villa Nova-Ya September 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    And yes, they had to win games to capitalize on Boston’s collapse. But if Boston wins 2 more games, not a stretch, really, the Rays are not there.

  215. hardwired7 September 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    It was the yacht’s fault.

  216. blake September 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Moore is starting to get more of the plate now….

  217. LGY September 30th, 2011 at 6:27 pm

    Nice baserunning by Hammy

  218. GreenBeret7 September 30th, 2011 at 6:28 pm

    kd September 30th, 2011 at 6:20 pm
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    But arm wise and stuff – that’s a a good one.

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    Thanks, Blake. No, everything’s ok. Just needed a couple of days away from the idiocy. I decided that Randy deserved Nurse Karloff more than me. He finally “won” her.

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    That’s also true.

    I’m just a huge fan of the way Maddon is able to motivate his guys to play the way they do. I think it’s great.

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