Yankees stay the same, Tigers shuffle lineup
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 03, 2011 
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YANKEES
Derek Jeter SS
Curtis Granderson CF
Robinson Cano 2B
Alex Rodriguez 3B
Mark Teixeira 1B
Nick Swisher RF
Jorge Posada DH
Russell Martin C
Brett Gardner LF
TIGERS
Austin Jackson CF
Ramon Santiago 2B
Delmon Young LF
Miguel Cabrera 1B
Victor Martinez DH
Magglio Ordonez RF
Jhonny Peralta SS
Alex Avila C
Brandon Inge 3B
Erin October 3rd, 2011 at 5:00 pm
Maybe it was more than he liked Jeter! LOL!
Ray- LOL
Have a good evening everyone.
Go Yankees!!!!
In Joe we Trust! Hopefully the players execute and make him look good. Go Yanks!
I really liked Blake’s idea of hitting Grandy 4th. But the potential is still there for Arod to come up huge. Maybe a couple games in a row is what it takes for him to get in the groove.
This TBS picture is awful. Has it been this bad for Yankee games?
I saw some of Alex’s AB’s on TBS’s pregame and agree that his pitch recognition was good, but he was unable to execute likely b/c of layoff. Hope to see him start getting into a rhythm.
I read on Drays Bay that Price has mostly been throw FB’s, so interesting to see if he throws more CB’s and changeups this game. Especially with Texas good FB hitting team. They said Trop suppression rate I believe on RH FB hitting is 8%.
Curious. Betemit has had some success against CC in a very small sample size. Inge has had very little.
Do not pitch to Miguel Cabrera tonight. Period. That means you too, CC. He has a 1.591 OPS against you.
Pretty good Detroit lineup.
Peralta, Martinez and Ordonez are past their glory days with the Indians and White Sox, but they each can step into one right-handed.
From 2006 ALDS, Game 3 in Detroit:
(hits/at-bats)
Johnny Damon 0/4
Derek Jeter 1/3
Bobby Abreu 0/3
Alex Rodriguez 0/3
Jason Giambi 0/4
Jorge Posada 2/4
Hideki Matsui 1/4
Bernie Williams 0/3
Robinson Cano 1/3
My crystal ball says Detroit is ultra careful with Robbie — and Alex makes them pay.
2006 ALDS, Game 3 in Detroit:
Kenny Rogers, 7.2 innings, 8 strikeouts, 0 runs.
Leyland always goes out of his way to praise the Yankees as a ploy to fire his team up….in 2006 he called the Yankees line-up Murderer’s row plus Cano and of course in games 2-4 no one could hit, we got killed, especially in Detroit….now he calls Cano one of the greatest players he has ever seen, think Miguel Cabrera liked that??? Yankees need to start playing some small ball as Comerica Park will give us lots of fly ball outs if we keep trying for the 3-run HR…
Leyland always goes out of his way to praise the Yankees as a ploy to fire his team up
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Good point. But everyone sees through that old cunning fox’s ploys.
I am just astonished that lineup from 2006 did absolutely nothing against Detroit pitching.
I have a serious problem with Arod not producing.
And I am not sure he will.
Yanks will have a hard time winning without him.
How can a playoff game not sellout? TB = bad karma.
Kenny Rogers was using more than guile in that start.
Rogers was at 4-5 mph over his average in that game. My theory is that old fox Leyland knows a trick or two and Kenny benefitted.
This TBS picture is awful. Has it been this bad for Yankee games?
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I haven’t really had an issue with the picture…mostly with their PitchTracker thing they have. Seems to be off by a good 10 inches each way. The pitcher will throw a ball outside corner and it shows as middle.
Tyler, I think until Alex shows he can it,it’s dangerous to rely on his potential – I feel for him, but he hasn’t done much of anything. As long as Alex is 4th, Cano will be walked……
I don’t know if Villa is around, but if he is: the reason I keep saying Hughes is not stretched out is that it’s kind of obvious. He missed weeks at the end of the season and then barely pitched in Tampa. How can he possibly be ready to go 4 innings or so? It’s a reach for him to go 3……
I’m “eh” if Cash returns……..don’t care if he does or not, but if he does, no owner is going to give a GM total control over decision making – not the Steinbrenners, not anyone. Expecting him to get that is not being realistic.
The similarities between 2006 and 2011 are just uncanny.
2006:
Game 1, Yankees won in a blow out, scoring 8 runs.
Game 2 (night game postponed into a day game), Tigers won, Yankees only scoring 3 runs.
Game 3 ?
were doomed
Tweeted by CC. Anyone on the UES?
AmberSabathia CC is focused on 2nite but wants to do something 4 fans. Be at 86th & 2nd Manhattan in 1 hr for chance to win signed ball
22 minutes agovia web
Betsy-
The only person that I would rather hit behind Cano is Granderson. Tex would be ideal but he’s not hitting either. At this point you have to go with the potential of Arod I think. He’s trying hard and you know it’s killing him that he hasn’t produced yet. I just think his timing is definitely off and maybe he’s still hurting on top o that.
betsy chic with her bs perils of wisdom.
There is nothing similar to 2006 at all.
i like blake’s idea of batting grandy 4th as well, but unfortunately for us, joe girardi cant think outside the box and has no stones. Im shocked that he actually switched Cano and Tex, but maybe it was just the case of Tex’s poor play forcing a switch of some kind
What good does dropping Granderson to 4th do? So he can get walked intentionally?
4 train October 3rd, 2011 at 5:51 pm
betsy chic with her bs perils of wisdom
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Speaking of someone whose wisdom is in “peril”.
lol 4 train.
CC_SabathiaCC Sabathia
We have CC singed ball in hand. 1st person in front of Chase Bank to yell GO YANKEES & DO A CARTWHEEL wins the ball. Behave… #yankees
Cabrera better not get 1 pitch to hit tonight with 1st base open. I don’t care how good of a year VMart had make him beat you. He is a good hitter but not great make him get the big hits tonight just like the Tigers are going to make Arod do. With guys on base pitch Cabrera inside or make him chase crap in the dirt. No more meatballs to fatty.
Irreverent-
Arod would bat behind Grandy. If they walk him then we can see what Arod has left. It’s not really any different than if Cano would be intentionally walked. I’d put Swisher in the 2 hole ahead of Cano. Swish would see a ton of fastballs which would suit him well.
Just one wish. Teixeira doesn’t swing for the fences and maybe fools everybody at the right time by sending a soft liner down the LF line to bring home at least one run.
Tyler, I love Alex and I really want him to do well….I guess it is too early to drop him, but yeah, Granderson is the only alternative….forget Tex, lol.
Also Cabrera was something like 13-31 against the Yanks this year. Figure out how to pitch to him starting tonight,
Im not sure what good it would do, but I like any outside the box thinking.
Here’s outside the box thinking… save CC for Game 4 against Porcello. Start AJ tonight versus Verlander. If we get A miraculous victory tonight, then CC could put this one in the bag.
If we lose with Cc against Porcello, then they flat out beat us and deserve to move on.
But, if we lose tonight even though CC pitches 8 shutout innings, then we’re screwed. Because AJ isnt saving us.
Try to get to Game 5, at home, with Nova. That’s all you can ask for in the current situation
girardi doesn’t think outside the box….
Tabbart – There is no reason to. Changing the most productive lineup in baseball based off of 2 games is how bad managers work their way out of the playoffs.
Do the Texas fans have as much concern over Beltre’s 0-8 or Andrus’ 1-9 or Cruz’ 1-8 as the “fans” have about Rodriguez?
I’ve never actually seen Tex’s postseason numbers with the Yankees compiled but rlyw has them up today.
.168/.273/.305 in 110 PAs
Wow.
LGY………………wow. And we have this guy for 5 more years……..
Desmond Jennings goes yard.
I don’t know which is more pathetic, a no life troll trying to pleasure itself by posting nonsense on a blog or self loathing Yankees fans afraid that they will lose to the Tigers and needing someone to blame.
how low this blog has sunk in just a few years…
Tabbert October 3rd, 2011 at 6:03 pm
girardi doesn’t think outside the box….
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What box is he supposed to think outside of? The most misused and overused cliche used by fans on here.
You know most players postseason stats look like that, and are usually only bouyed by one good postseason.
I think the concern over Arod is more about his lack of playing time before the playoffs and his timing (at least from the sensible fans). If he played close to a full season and looked like himself before the playoffs I don’t think there would be as much concern if he started slow in the playoffs. The concern lies in the fact that he did not have many at bats in September.
You know most players postseason stats look like that, and are usually only bouyed by one good postseason.
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Evidence behind this statement?
I mean, of course Ill hope for the win tonight and then AJ to have the game of his Yankee career tomorrow or the offense to score more runs than AJ and the bullpen give up. But getting both is unlikely. So as I said, save CC for Game 4, get this to a Game 5 at home with Nova starting.
LGY – Plenty. One out of every 2 teams bats like garbage every series.
I’ve never actually seen Tex’s postseason numbers with the Yankees compiled but rlyw has them up today.
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Those stats are excused here by some because of one home run he hit against Minn
LGY – Plenty. One out of every 2 teams bats like garbage every series.
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Huh?
MG October 3rd, 2011 at 6:06 pm
I don’t know which is more pathetic, a no life troll trying to pleasure itself by posting nonsense on a blog or self loathing Yankees fans afraid that they will lose to the Tigers and needing someone to blame.
how low this blog has sunk in just a few years…
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I agree with you, but find me a blog where there is not a troll (especially one involving sports) on the internet. I’m a huge St. Louis Blues hockey fan and look at their message board and it’s 100 times worse than this when they are losing. It’s a lot easier to just ignore it.
GB
No. Andrus and Beltre headlines don’t sell.
If BJ Upton just would get his head on straight he could easily be as good as his brother. He would make Tampa even more dangerous than they already are. He shows glimpses of being dominant and then slumps for a month.
I think it’s funny how analysts and fans think the Yankees are doomed, because they lost a single game. I didn’t know that they were expected to sweep the Tigers.
It should be a fun game. Hopefully Girardi pulls the right strings tonight.
I bet the number of players batting under .230 in the postseason is much greater than the number above it. I’m trying to find a way of looking that up.
How does it not make sense to you anyway? Facing better pitching and defense means less marginal hits. Combined with the small sample of the playoffs… most stats are anecdotal anyway.
Consider this. Carlos Beltran has the highest SLG in the postseason, ever.
Pete Caldera
“(There’s a) 40 percent chance of rain. Should it shock you? We’re in town,” Joe Girardi said. Overcast & cool as Tigers take BP now.
Oh and the highest OPS… so is Beltran the greatest postseason hitter ever? Even though he has never been on a team that has won a world series?
Change to lineup now would be a sign of panic and it would effect the players confidence. This lineup scored 9 runs two days ago, leave it alone.
How does it not make sense to you anyway? Facing better pitching and defense means less marginal hits. Combined with the small sample of the playoffs
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Mark has over 100 playoff at bats. That’s a small sample size?
LGY,
With those stats its amazing how much this guy gets a pass. Truly amazing. 23 million will get you the ultra stealth uniform because he’s been flying under the radar forever….
“Consider this. Carlos Beltran has the highest SLG in the postseason, ever.”
He absolutely murdered the ball in that 2004 NLDS against the Cards when he was with Houston. He was unstoppable.
Triple – Small enough to be move substantially by one or two good postseason series… yes thats small in my eyes. Everyone’s playoff sample is small unless you are Derek Jeter.
Like I said earlier today, its fune to float out line up ideas/changes, but Joe is sticking with what has been the same lineup in the first two games.
Just hoping that CC can match JV pitch for pitch.
Coming into this post season Arod was hitting like 295 in the post season but because he had 2 poor ones in a row with the Yankees people act like he never gets a post season hit.
Its not just the lack of hits for Mark its his mostly non competitive at bats.
I will be outraged again if we’re down, Martin is up in a big situation, and Girardi doesn’t pinch hit for Montero.
Just letting everyone know.
LGY – You have any idea how to use the bref play index tool to search postseason? The site seems to indicate it’s possible but I can’t figure it out.
Hey all. Been away from the forum most of the day attending to business.
Looking forward to CC annihilating the competition.
If this game goes the way I am thinking it will, I will be convinced once and for all that Verlander’s good fortune is a function of pitching in one hell of an easy division.
Here’s hoping!
It will be good to have LGY, J Al, and Yankefem back on the game thread. It’s been kind of a lonely place without a few more positive voices on the thread – not that Luis, Triple, and a few others haven’t tried. But you three all know the cesspool of negativity the gamethread turns into as soon as, well as soon as a Yankee pitcher give up a hit or a Yankee hitter fails to get on base…
:rolll:
The Donut Choker’s pettiness and jealousy never takes a vacation.
Pete Abraham
Seriously, Madonna at the Super Bowl? The “relevant in last five years” rule needs to apply, NFL.
I know someone who will be there again, eating popcorn and enjoying the show.
Purses lips. “I think it’s good.”
I’d love a CC statement game tonight. Shut em down big man!
Coming into this post season Arod was hitting like 295 in the post season but because he had 2 poor ones in a row with the Yankees people act like he never gets a post season hit.
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C’mon Alex looks shot. He has looked slow and out of shape since he returned and if it’s rust we might not find out till next year. Sorry if that is troll-like but without him in the middle they will start pitching around Cano and our chances are slimmer.
The “relevant in last five years” rule needs to apply, NFL.
Look at the last few years of acts…
Slash
The Who
Bruce Sucksteen
Tom Petty
Marching Bands… Prince
Rolling Stones
Paul McCartney
Janet Jackson
Sting
Madonna seems just about right, I guess “The Monkeys” were busy.
GO RAYS!!!!!
AndrewMarchand Andrew Marchand
When asked about his bullpen, Girardi said mentioned that Ayala pitched two days in a row. He may be unavailable.
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Oh boy Girardi. I should hope because of the fact Ayala sucks makes him more unavailable then because he pitched 2 days in a row.
But be sure to keep an eye on over working those relievers, don’t want to burn them out for our next road trip of the season or something.
Memo to Girardi this is the Post Season do or die time, start managing like it please.
The Monkees.
mick – Funny enough, I typed it like that at first and went…. nah….. memory = shot.
Sabathia hasn’t dominated in a long time – and ARod is just an average player right now.
I was surprised they booed Alex it came out of nowhere.
C’mon Alex looks shot. He has looked slow and out of shape since he returned and if it’s rust we might not find out till next year. Sorry if that is troll-like but without him in the middle they will start pitching around Cano and our chances are slimmer.
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So if Arod is shot why is he getting booed? If the fans want to boo someone wouldn’t it make sense to boo someone in their prime?
PRDENTIST October 3rd, 2011 at 6:16 pm
Change to lineup now would be a sign of panic and it would effect the players confidence. This lineup scored 9 runs two days ago, leave it alone.
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This is Leyland’s 3rd line-up in 3 days.
mick, beware the poster “Gary” who decided to besmirch you this morning after besmirching me.
In fact, he has said he prefers hanging out with the morning posters because apparently the night game doesn’t suit his fancy (parapharse). I invite him to do just that.
And since I told him that my style is to talk to people and not about them –
Gary – there’s aren’t many posters who are more two-faced and whiney than I have found you to be!
Verlander hasn’t dominated or won a game in 15 days
Victor Martinez has 1 home run in the last 20 days, he’s clearly just an average player right now.
See how easy that is DSJ?
that should be night gang, not night game.
BJK – No one ever accused Leyland of knowing what he is doing…
“Verlander hasn’t dominated or won a game in 15 days
Victor Martinez has 1 home run in the last 20 days, he’s clearly just an average player right now.”
Looking forward to more of the same!
im so glad joe girardi has given jesus montero a chance.
its so shortsighted.
and imo may cost the yankees the series
Yogi Berra’s stats for his 1st 101 ABs in the World Series:
19 Hits
4 HRs
8 RBIs
8 Walks
11 K’s
Using the ‘Teix is a lousy, stinking choker’ guidelines, I guess Yogi must have been the same even though he hit well over .300 with 5 HRs and 16 RBIs in his next 101 ABs in the World Series.
And the Mick hit .120 in the 1962 WS, I guess he was a choker as well.
Right, sure…
I’m so sick of hearing about Montero, I hope he gets traded.
Boy Desmond Jennings is sure having him a series!
Using the ‘Teix is a lousy, stinking choker’ guidelines, I guess Yogi must have been the same even though he hit well over .300 with 5 HRs and 16 RBIs in his next 101 ABs in the World Series.
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You are comparing a catcher’s stats to a power position stats?
I was done with arod when he clapped after grounding out vs verlander in game 1 -A- really arod? Really? Good job getting the run in, but a grounder and you’re clapping? WTF?! smh
jonathan p – When was he supposed to get that chance? Before or after Posada has batted .500 in the last 2 games?
Gardner is a mediocre player. Sad.
Irreverent Discourse October 3rd, 2011 at 6:54 pm
I’m so sick of hearing about Montero, I hope he gets traded
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We’re still often hearing about not signing Damon, not signing Matsui, not getting Haren, etc. What makes you think Montero would go away?
RadioKev October 3rd, 2011 at 6:12 pm
I think it’s funny how analysts and fans think the Yankees are doomed, because they lost a single game. I didn’t know that they were expected to sweep the Tigers.
It should be a fun game. Hopefully Girardi pulls the right strings tonight.
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Speaking about the so called talking heads it’s a easy call for them. They know Justin walk on water is pitching today and AJ train wreck tomm. They got it figured that the script plays out the way they think it will, thyey see their prediction as low risk. Yanks fans on the other hand are uneasy because they have been to this movie several times before. To me it still gets back to Tex and ARod getting on track, that’s the game changer out there. They don’t get on track whow knows, Cano can’t carry the team everyday. Maybe Grandy can he’s the other possible.
One thing we must all remember. No matter what happens early in the game, late in the game, any point in the game, we must never give up. Never give up.
Triple stats are stats, Was Yogi a choker batting .190? According to you, yes.
Did it stop him from hitting later in his postseason career? No.
Can Teixeira ever hit in the postseason? Signs point to yes.
We are fans of the greatest organization in world history. If we believe they will win, it will happen.
Tonight’s game will show what we are made of…..if they succeed as I think they will, they will go on to win the series. If the bats continue to slumber, our work will be cut out for us in games 4 and/or 5.
This is our team….if they fall short this year than so be it. I am sick of the, as MG called it, “self loathing Yankees fans afraid that they will lose to the Tigers and needing someone to blame”. But I will not criticize their desire to win or their heart. Yes Joe needs to make good decisions, but the players need to get it done on the field first and foremost.
I hope that Dancing Ass Clown’s quote is on the bulletin board on the locker room. Yanks in four, thanks to a 4-0 win tonight/
Triple Short of a Cycle October 3rd, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Using the ‘Teix is a lousy, stinking choker’ guidelines, I guess Yogi must have been the same even though he hit well over .300 with 5 HRs and 16 RBIs in his next 101 ABs in the World Series.
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You are comparing a catcher’s stats to a power position stats?
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Yogi batted cleanup for the Yankees in most of those World Series.
you really don’t know much about baseball history, do you?
MG – Nice.
TheStraw October 3rd, 2011 at 6:58 pm
Tonight’s game will show what we are made of…..if they succeed as I think they will, they will go on to win the series. If the bats continue to slumber, our work will be cut out for us in games 4 and/or 5.
This is our team….if they fall short this year than so be it. I am sick of the, as MG called it, “self loathing Yankees fans afraid that they will lose to the Tigers and needing someone to blame”. But I will not criticize their desire to win or their heart.
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Straw agree 1,000,000%.
This team plays hard every inning of every game and I think if it wasn’t raining during Jeter’s and Cano’s ABs late in the game yesterday the result might have gone the other way.
francesa making great points about alex
You’re not winning anything in the post season when Garcia is your third best starter and AJ Burnett has to save the season tomorrow. Sad.
Irreverent Discourse October 3rd, 2011 at 7:01 pm
MG – Nice.
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thanks, the Mick went 6-51 in the ’61 through 63 WS with 1 HR, it didn’t stop him from going 8-24 with 3 HR and 8 RBI in the ’64 Series.
DSJ is a mediocre poster, sad.
Go troll somewhere else pal, it’s not working.
The Tigers are not good. The Yankees are.
Alex should go for the element of surprise and bunt!
Jesus the savior riding the pines. Sad.
Alex just needs AB’s; don’t forget that line drive shot in the abbreviated game 1.
And here is an offensive catcher coming through; 2-1 Texas. Boo!
Impossible, Price just coughed up the lead. Maddon is too smart a manager to have allowed that.
Napoli 2 run HR 2-1 Rangers
“pines” should be singular. “Riding the pine” or just “riding pine”.
ID’s correct. Mediocre troll. And that’s probably generous.
Big fat and sweaty loses everytime. Sad.
Yogi Mantle – don’t you know that Price is a pathetic choking loser?
you really don’t know much about baseball history, do you?
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Who cares where he hit in the lineup? He hit 45 home runs in the first 3 years you are talking about. Once again you are going to compare that to a guy who hits 35 to 40 home runs a year?
Plus Berra struggled in his first 5 post seasons when he was in his early 20′s and then he got better once he got closer to his prime. Mark is supposedly in his prime and has got worse and worse
pathetic choking loser trolls are so pathetic. and sad.
Rangers win !
Rangers win !
The Rangers win !
the Yankees are a better club than the Tigers but it’s a short series. Being the better club just means they are more likely to win the series
if the Yankees win tonight, they probably have a 90% chance of winning the ALDS.
if the Tigers win tonight, I doubt their chance of winning the series is more than 60%.
it’s just like poker, you can have AAA going into the river and every once in a great while some idiot will catch an inside straight on you.
so, IMO, a Tiger loss tonight really puts them at the brink of elimination while the Yankees, even if they lose tonight, still have a pretty good chance.
DSJ October 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Big fat and sweaty loses everytime. Sad.
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Yes I agree, Big Papi is sad.
Joe from Long Island October 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Yogi Mantle – don’t you know that Price is a pathetic choking loser?
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Price hasn’t been quite what they wanted this year. Of course they will say it was Price’s fingernail.
He seems to be hanging a little too much with Big Game James. lol
Triple, not defending Teixeira, as I find him so frustrating, but last year he was playing with that broken toe. He wasn’t good, but he was also playing injured. That will affect your numbers.
Not really sure what it is this year, other than it seems like he is trying to play above his ability. He has gotten too pull happy, though he is finally acknowledging it.
Triple Short of a Cycle October 3rd, 2011 at 7:11 pm
you really don’t know much about baseball history, do you?
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Who cares where he hit in the lineup? He hit 45 home runs in the first 3 years you are talking about. Once again you are going to compare that to a guy who hits 35 to 40 home runs a year?
Plus Berra struggled in his first 5 post seasons when he was in his early 20?s and then he got better once he got closer to his prime. Mark is supposedly in his prime and has got worse and worse
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Yogi finished 3rd, 4th and 1st for the MVP Award in 3 of those years (1950-1952), he was one of the top players in baseball during that time.
And, in 1950-1952, he averaged 28 HRs and 103 RBIs during the regular season.
You really need to develop an appreciation for the nuances of baseball sometime soon.
Not exactly Brandon “Big Game” Gomes
We’ll see if the Rays continue to be this “legendary loose team” with them being on the losing end right now.
If the Trop is sold out, which is what has been posted, why are there sections that are blocked off when there are seats in the upper levels that could be used?
You really need to develop an appreciation for the nuances of baseball sometime soon.
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sanctimonious much?
Apparently you can’t have a baseball discussion with someone who disagrees with you without attacking which seems to be par for the course with some of the older posters on here or who used to post here
Triple – There was nothing sanctimonious about it, you are simply ignoring the facts.
Maddon making another “right” call?
I can understand changing pitchers to big situations, but too many pitching changes can take the fielders out of their game. I think that last game of the season, where Girardi wanted to change pitchers so often, played some role in the Ray’s comeback. At some point, the pitching changes can become detrimental.
Brett Marshall didn’t make BA FSL top 20 (for those who care…)
Wow, really dumb base running error by the Rangers there. We’ve been seeing a lot of base running blunders this whole post season by the different teams.
People are starting to see GIrardi for what/who he really is. During the press conference the people’s tone of voice was really condescending. Mike Francesa was pretty funny, he said, “How can you say Cano had a good at bat when he hit a weak grounder to end the game?” Hah. Seems everybody is getting on Joe’s case right now as well as they should.
Sure hope our bats come to life.. If not we can kiss 2011 goodbye.
Really has nothing to do with “younger vs older” posters. It’s about post season numbers put up over a similar stretch of time. HOFers like Cobb, Mays, Williams, Dickey. etc that pretty much flopped in the post season and guys like Brian Doyle starring. If the numbers ran true to form, Doyle would be in the HOF and Mays, Williams, Cobb and Dickey would be asking for his autograph.
WHOA!!! Angels unloading the front office. Pat M.’s golfing buddy Ken Forsch gets the axe, along with gary sutherland.
Triple Short of a Cycle October 3rd, 2011 at 7:25 pm
You really need to develop an appreciation for the nuances of baseball sometime soon.
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sanctimonious much?
Apparently you can’t have a baseball discussion with someone who disagrees with you without attacking which seems to be par for the course with some of the older posters on here or who used to post here
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What’s ironic is these old clowns drove away all the posters that had value.. but yet they blame the people who talk negative (truthfully) about the Yankees as the reason.
My dad used to love posting here, but they drove him away. Regardless what they believe or not.. my dad is pretty well connected with the Yankees organization you might say !
When he would share info before it hit the papers all he got was ridiculed and then when the news broke and proved what he said, they’d pretend they never harassed or attempted to belittle him.
I don’t waste my time putting stock in much that they say, the majority are just miserable losers looking for a fight.
Tricia…..You certainly know how to make an entrance….Love it !!!! Watch for Jorge Posada to do something special tonight…….Right Tin Cup ???/
Triple – There was nothing sanctimonious about it, you are simply ignoring the facts.
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Ignoring what facts? The fact that Mark has gotten worse the past 2 years. The fact that he rarely has competitive at bats in the post season anymore? Not to mention the fact he plays on such a good lineup and is always protected. I’m not asking for much from him, I’m asking for 1 good series. He is not the same hitter he was before he came here
No one knows who your dad is, you’ve been saying that for a year now.
Triple has no point so he got defensive, MG said nothing wrong.
Ooo, Rays mounting a come back?
lol, we all just said with Darren Oliver in, this game isn’t over. Go Rays!
Triple – The fact that Yogi was the 4 hitter, was one of the best bats in the league and managed to turn his postseason career around after mimicking Teixeira’s struggles in the postseason. Are you following your own conversation at this point or just trying to steer it into a direction where you are less wrong?
TBS coverage is awful. Smoltz being from Michigan is sooooo pro Tigers and he has always disliked the Yankees but to offset that Darling is Pro Yankee & Anderson knows very little and repeats himself more than “Mr. Redundant” Michael Kay….
Anyone involved with taking that Vernon Wells contract deserves to be axed.
Girardi pitching Ayala in a post season game with a rested Soriano and Robertson ready to go. One of the worst managerial calls in post season history. Sad.
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Don’t forget about the WS Bobby Richardson had. You just never know who will step up and be the hero in a short series.
GreenBeret7 October 3rd, 2011 at 7:32 pm
Really has nothing to do with “younger vs older” posters. It’s about post season numbers put up over a similar stretch of time. HOFers like Cobb, Mays, Williams, Dickey. etc that pretty much flopped in the post season and guys like Brian Doyle starring. If the numbers ran true to form, Doyle would be in the HOF and Mays, Williams, Cobb and Dickey would be asking for his autograph.
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it’s an integral part of baseball history, GB. Mays had 0 HR and 5 RBI in 64 ABs in the 3 postseason series he played (not counting those at the end of his career).
Frank Robinson, one of the greatest, toughest players I’ve ever seen hit a career .238 in the postseason. Hank Aaron had good stats, Reggie Jackson, Mr October, wasn’t very good in the ’73 and ’74 postseason, he seemed to shake it off later in his career.
Irreverent Discourse October 3rd, 2011 at 7:41 pm
No one knows who your dad is, you’ve been saying that for a year now.
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Your wrong. some of the original people who don’t come here anymore know who my dad is and some like CB know that my dad knows more about the Yankees than any of you ever will.
if I did tell you who my dad was you would kiss his butt every time he came here. Why haven’t I said who he is to most of you ? Well, maybe your bright enough to figure it out.
I dont care who he actually is, but you’ve never even identified the poster… so I call BS.
Verlander – 13 k’s
Teixeira – 3
ARod – 3
Posada – 4
Granderson -3
Sad.
identified the poster ? Most people know what name my dad posts under.
Glad you call BS, because you need to call something. If you’re a true Yankee fan you would care, because most people who know my dad have a lot of respect for him.
and I see Ken and Michael.. hopefully Ron Darling and the other boring’s aren’t broadcasting.
DSJ October 3rd, 2011 at 7:51 pm
Verlander – 13 k’s
Teixeira – 3
ARod – 3
Posada – 4
Granderson -3
Sad.
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ugh.
Triple – The fact that Yogi was the 4 hitter, was one of the best bats in the league and managed to turn his postseason career around after mimicking Teixeira’s struggles in the postseason
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Mark is leaving his prime years. Berra was in his early 20′s
Most people have no idea who your dad is.
My dad knows alot about baseball too, more than your dad. Once in my life he was the strongest man in the world too.
We don’t live in your bubble.
Thats why you listen to sterling and lineup the game on tv/radio to match. i do it via my phone just to not listen to smoltz, he’s such a bozo
Jennings with another jack. What a debut for the rookie