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Postgame notes: “I put us in a bad spot”

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 04, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The strike zone seemed tight tonight. Joe Girardi said so, Russell Martin said so, and CC Sabathia said so. But not one of them seemed to think that was the reason the Tigers won this game and put the Yankees on the verge of elimination.

“I’m not going to sit here and say it was the umpire’s fault,” Sabathia said. “I just didn’t make pitches when I needed to… I felt great, felt fine. I thought my fastball command was better than it has been. It’s just not making pitches when I need to, whether that be a breaking ball or changeup or whatever it was. They were just fouling pitches off.”

Martin said it was the outer half of the plate against right-handers that was causing frustration. Those were borderline pitches, he said, and sometimes Sabathia gets those calls. Tonight he didn’t. He walked three batters in the first inning, higher than his walk total for two-thirds of his starts this season. He finished with six walks, more than he’s had since early 2010.

“We just want the pitches that are on the plate to be called strikes, and a few times I felt like there were some borderline pitches,” Martin said. “But it’s a tough job back there for an umpire, and I thought he was consistent. He wasn’t calling that pitch, and he didn’t really change his mind… I felt like (Sabathia) had the same stuff that he normally does. When I see he has the same stuff, it’s just the other team is doing their job and battling and fighting.”

Sabathia threw 28 pitches in the first inning, which is more than he threw in two innings on Friday. Ultimately, he was limited. He limited in his ability to put hitters away, and he was limited in his ability to work deep into the game, two things that make Sabathia who he is.

Now the Yankees will turn to A.J. Burnett, an all-or-nothing starter for an all-or-nothing game.

“It’s tough,” Sabathia said. “I put us in a bad spot. Next time I get the ball, I’ll try to go out and help us win. I wasn’t able to do that tonight.

Here’s a little bit of Martin. Sorry, but audio was tough to get in that cramped clubhouse.

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• Brett Gardner has had a couple of big hits this series, and his two-out, two-run double off Justin Verlander felt like a huge hit. For just a moment, momentum seemed to swing heavily in the Yankees favor. “We were able to tie it up, but it wasn’t enough,” Gardner said. “Tough loss for us, but come out tomorrow be ready to go… We’ve won two games in a row a lot of times this year.”

• A half inning after Gardner’s big hit, came Delmon Young’s big blow. Rafael Soriano had already gotten three outs — and sat for a half inning in the middle of them — when Young came to the plate. It was the first time all year that he’d pitched more than an inning. “I was ready today for that situation because I knew the situation of the game,” Soriano said. “I was going in maybe for the last two outs of that inning and then come back and try to get the next inning. I was mentally ready, prepared for that situation.”

• Soriano on the pitch to Young: “To me that was a good pitch. I mean, nothing I can do now. It was a good location, and he hit it out. So we just got to come back tomorrow.”

• Girardi on using Soriano for more than three outs: “He was well rested. He missed the location. That’s going to happen. He went out and got the next couple of guys out. He was fine.”

• Alex Rodriguez drew two walks tonight, but he still doesn’t have a hit this series. Mark Teixeria struck out twice and is hitting .091 these three games. “I think we can win no matter what,” Rodriguez said. “You’ve got to throw statistics out the window in the playoffs. The only statistic that matters is winning games. And I think both Tex and I are prepared for big at-bats. The playoffs come down to a few key at bats, and when those at-bats come, we’ll be there.”

• Martin took a 100-mph fastball to the ribs. “It stings,” he said. “95. 100. Who cares?”

• Girardi on the decision to stick with Sabathia in the sixth: “They had left, right, left. That’s why I left CC in there, because of that situation. I had
Soriano up in the fifth. But Soriano was coming in after the catcher.”

• Sabathia’s six walks were the most allowed by a Yankees pitcher in the postseason since Orlando Hernandez who walked six in Game 1 of the ALDS in 1999.

• Two hits for Jeter extends his Major League record, giving him 189 postseason hits.

• Good call by Jim Leyland tonight, choosing to start Ramon Santiago, who had two hits tonight, one of which drove in the first Tigers run, and one of which put them in the lead 3-2.

• Girardi said he remains fully committed to Burnett getting the start tomorrow. “A.J.’s capable or shutting guys down,” Jeter said. “Hopefully tomorrow he’s ready to go, as we know he will be, and gives us an opportunity. We’ve got to score some runs… We’ve won a game before and that’s the mindset we have to have. This game’s over with, done with, we’ll be back here later on tonight and try to win a game.”

Just a quick, late announcement: With the Yankees on the brink, I’m going to host a chat tomorrow at noon. Stop by if you can. See you then.

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204 Responses to “Postgame notes: “I put us in a bad spot””

  1. jacksquat October 4th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    Lefthanded hitters kill Porcello.

    vs lhh: .857 OPS
    vs rhh: .650 OPS

    So as much as guys like Tex and Swish are sucking overall, you kind of have to keep them in there.

    And you can’t put Montero in there to catch AJ.

  2. Jeremy October 4th, 2011 at 1:39 am

    The thing is that Burnett can’t be trusted even when he is going right. The guy is a headcase and a joke of a pitcher. If he pitches a good game then it means he got lucky and go ahead to game 5, but if he bombs then it’s time to eat his contract and ship him out of New York.

  3. Captain Clutch October 4th, 2011 at 1:39 am

    It’s funny how all you hear is that Arod isn’t hitting and you never hear Tex’s name mentioned. Why is that?? Arod is the one who carried them in 09′ and is dealing with injuries and Tex is 100% healthy but of course he doesn’t have to hear any crap from anyone. Too bad the Yanks can’t sign Fielder or Pujols because they have Tex who never hits.

  4. Niblick October 4th, 2011 at 1:40 am

    Good luck, AJ.

  5. Jeremy October 4th, 2011 at 1:48 am

    Yeah too bad Cashman didn’t include the opt out in Tex’s contract. I’m about sick of his lack of offensive production. I got on A-rod but at least he helped the Yankees in the 2009 postseason. Pujols can hit in the postseason and so can Fielder, and they can hit better in the regular season.

  6. waka flocka October 4th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    of course no one will bring up Jeter killing rallies this entire series.

  7. stuart a October 4th, 2011 at 1:53 am

    the only guys hitting are gardner and posad. cano had 1 monster game.

    tex, swisher, martin, they have accumulated zero goodwill. jeter has accumulated goodwill and he is 37, the other guys have zero excuses.

    tex is under 170 for his career in the playoffs….. swisher about the same… 50 + ab’s

    jerry davis the ump was awful…..he squeezed CC over and over again…nothing on the outside to righties nothing…………..

  8. Duh Innings October 4th, 2011 at 1:55 am

    Word, AJ is the man tonight. ‘Gotta back the guy.

  9. GhettoBlaster October 4th, 2011 at 1:58 am

    Will CC opt out after the inevitable loss tomorrow?

    how could any team pay him 25Mill a year when weighs 300+ lbs??

  10. the vaunted chris October 4th, 2011 at 2:01 am

    waka flocka October 4th, 2011 at 1:50 am

    of course no one will bring up Jeter killing rallies this entire series.

    ……

    ssshhhhhh..not allowed

  11. the vaunted chris October 4th, 2011 at 2:03 am

    No big deal, CC….You’ll just opt out and hold this franchise hostage to pay you 75 more million dollars in your late thirties, and they’ll do it. Arod and CC are going to absolutely have some affect on this team’s flexibility down the road. Yankees or not. Can’t keep backloading money when you have to pay Cano and Teix too.

  12. waka flocka October 4th, 2011 at 2:13 am

    Sabathia will and should get paid by the Yankees. This team is no where without him.

    It’s not like Detroit has a stud going tomorrow. Porcello blows. This is going back to NY.

  13. Bo knows October 4th, 2011 at 2:22 am

    After the fireworks

    No, I don’t want to eviscerate Girardi with a dull spoon. He was trying to pull CC through 6 so his BP would only go one inning looking ahead to game 5. CC has done it many times before. Verlander was blowing the Yankees out of the water and looked like he would go 9. Yes A Rod is 0 for 3 games and the Teix/Swish combo are wretched, bad. You could almost say that the heart of the order don’t got one. Hell they don’t even have a pulse.

    I actually enjoyed the game, it was great. A lot of drama. A totally unbelievable 2B by Gardner on a century heater down and away.

    Verlander was absolutely fantastic. Wow, what a pitcher. Still the Yankees got to him for four runs.

    Yes, the Yankees lost, but hey, that’s baseball. It’s entertainment and this game was full value.

  14. UnKnown October 4th, 2011 at 2:34 am

    sportsJC16 Joe Casale
    @
    @Buster_ESPN He won’t have to worry about that. There won’t be a Game 5.

    ——

    This is in response to a Buster tweet saying how Leyland says Verlander won’t pitch the rest of the series. Not even in relief if there is a Game 5.

    Unfortunately, our buddy SJ is declaring the series over. Hope this is as good as his prediction on Cliff Lee becoming a Yankee.

  15. Tabbert October 4th, 2011 at 3:26 am

    The yankees might have won this series if not for the rain out and girardi being a moron. However, a championship team has to win no matter what. Hopefully we come out strong tomorrow.

  16. ObscureSound.com October 4th, 2011 at 4:26 am

    Porcello blows? what a foolish comment.

    Porcello finished the year with 5 consecutive quality starts.

    do you know how many quality starts Burnett has in the past 3 months?

    enough said. this one is over.

  17. Madrugador October 4th, 2011 at 5:26 am

    WOW! Isn’t this ugly to wake up to? Didn’t think they could win that the way Verlander was dealing. Also could not believe that strike zone but both pitchers had to deal with it. Tex, Arod and Swish not hitting at all, AJ on the bump, looks like a short run in the playoffs.
    Beginning the season minus two starting pitchers, the Yanks have gone further than they had reason to believe.

  18. PacoDooley October 4th, 2011 at 5:47 am

    Man do I hate the five game series. But my main annoyance at the moment is Soriano. The signing was moronic and he will obviously not opt out, so the Yankees are left with an overpaid somewhat mediocre middle reliever that will frustrate and annoy the fans. Why can’t the owners really trust Cashman and let him make smart decisions!

  19. Laura - I Bleed Blue October 4th, 2011 at 6:21 am

    The same people saying that Porcello stinks are the same ones who said we’d beat the crap out of Schezer. Anything can happen in the playoffs. We could get no hit tonight or we could score 10 runs. AJ can be his usual frustrating self or he can channel the good AJ. We won’t know until the game is played.

    Very disappointed to see SJ44 crapping all over the team. He used to be much more positive. Not sure what happened to change that.

  20. Don Vito A. Bellamo October 4th, 2011 at 6:24 am

    Girardi remains the real problem here. When faced with the choice of which reliever he wants to go for 5 outs, he goes with the one that has an ERA of 4.12, over the one that has a 1.08. SUPER STUPID and he paid for it. Now the team has to hang it’s postseason hopes on another VERY questionable move, with him trusting AJ with the ball for game 4. Good managers make smart choices that put it’s team in the best position to win a ballgame. Jarhead does just the opposite and that just stinks.

  21. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 6:28 am

    Given what has been AJ’s past two years, the real question is – a) is AJ better or worse than Porcello and b) will the key members of the offense show up? I certainly hope so but I won’t e holding my breath. It seems certain tho that Hughes will probably be standing by if AJ does implode before the fourth inning.

  22. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 6:30 am

    I also don’t get the reasoning of sticking with Soriano. DRob for a couple would’ve been te smarter option.

  23. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 6:43 am

    Morning, not much sense in complaining the game is over. They got just enough and we didn’t get quite enough. Kudo’s to a few guys like Gardner who came through in the clutch and a long list of those that didn’t.

    Hoping AJ can come through tonight at at least force a 5th game. You want to be playing for the chance to advance, all we can ask for right now.

    All this baloney about the umpire is just that, same guy for both sides, it wasn’t the difference in the game.

  24. 108 stitches October 4th, 2011 at 6:54 am

    No wiggle room for Burnett. Girardi will need a quick hook at the 1st sign of trouble. This game is for the season. All hands on deck except Nova.

  25. jacksquat October 4th, 2011 at 6:59 am

    Because if both are available and it’s not the 8th inning yet, Soriano comes before Robertson. That is Girardi’s stiff way of thinking.

    The blame shouldn’t really go on Soriano. The guy did not pitch more than one inning all year. I blame more:

    - CC did not have good stuff, like his game 1 start. The rainout that should have been called before the game started really screwed things up.

    – CC’s strike zone was ridiculously small. Verlander got many calls off the plate outside to lhh.

    – CC should have never touched the mound in the 6th. He was clearly on fumes before then.

  26. Purenyyankee October 4th, 2011 at 7:00 am

    We are in this situation because we didn’t show up on Sunday and key guys continue to struggle. Last night Cano, ARod, Tex & Swisher were a combined 0-16. Our “Ace” has struggled for the last 2 months. Time to wake up the bats.

  27. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 7:00 am

    108 stitches October 4th, 2011 at 6:54 am
    No wiggle room for Burnett. Girardi will need a quick hook at the 1st sign of trouble. This game is for the season. All hands on deck except Nova.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    You know, it’s more about the hitting today as opposed to the pitching. Just like pretty much every offseason in the last 10 years except for 2009. AJ can win today if he gets run support, if he doesn’t then the conversation turns to opt out’s, staffing, and free agents.

  28. Dj October 4th, 2011 at 7:04 am

    Uh, A-rod? Please don’t be waiting to hit until those “key at bats” – we need you to come through a little more than the no hits you’ve been giving us this series.

    That being said, go AJ! It’s strange but not surprising the season weighs on him – very weird season this year.

  29. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 7:07 am

    Sunday’s poor effort really setup the importance of last nights game. The odds favored Verlander winning at home (14-2 this year) and he did. But, it was only one game though in a 5 game series. Losing that game on Sunday at home so far is the pivotable game. If you want to second guess the what if’s the series would be much different if that score was reversed.

  30. Benny Blanco October 4th, 2011 at 7:29 am

    finally!!!!!

    “So wipe your brow Mr. Teixeira because it is allowing you to go stealth and avoid too much scrutiny, though you have slowly and steadily become one of the worst postseason performers in Yankees history.” – Joel Sherman

    Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....z1ZoNZwLKD

  31. joeman October 4th, 2011 at 7:30 am

    down 2-1 in a best of 5 on the road and AJ pitching….

  32. Purenyyankee October 4th, 2011 at 7:34 am

    Our “ace” let Ramon Santiago beat us.

  33. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 7:40 am

    I hate it when umps play a significant role in the outcome of a game, and as much as I would prefer to dismiss it, last night’s strike zone stunk up to high heaven. I know it’s spilled milk, but games like that make me dislike umps that much more. They’re supposed to be invisible and not affect the game, not the other way around.

  34. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    It wasn’t all on CC. Soriano serving up a meatball doesn’t help. Girardi’s decision to let him come back out and not give the ball to DRob is curious. And the 4-5-6 hitters in our lineup has been barely above terrible offensively. Team game. They all have to show up.

  35. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 7:46 am

    sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 7:40 am
    I hate it when umps play a significant role in the outcome of a game, and as much as I would prefer to dismiss it, last night’s strike zone stunk up to high heaven. I know it’s spilled milk, but games like that make me dislike umps that much more. They’re supposed to be invisible and not affect the game, not the other way around.

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    Sunny, respectfully it wasn’t the umps that lost the game. It was them coming through with the big hits and we didn’t except for Grandy in the first and Gardner later in the game. At any point it’s over, we could debate it all day, but it doesn’t change anything.

  36. Ys Guy October 4th, 2011 at 7:51 am

    now is the time for all good fans to come to the aid of their baseball team.

    …or at least stop whining!

    Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!

  37. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 7:55 am

    Gary, not lost per se, but they did influence. By unnecessarily widening the zone on one side, it forced RH hitters to protect the outside part of the plate by up to 18 inches. How can any hitter expect to have a productive at bat when the zone is so skewed? I can’t believe that it didn’t impact the hitters’ thinking and how they approached their at bats. I’m not blaming anyone – umps or otherwise – but I firmly believe umps are supposed to be invisible not influential. Anyway, what’s done is done. Got to pray to the Gods of Pitching that AJ gives us a quality start. A perfect game would be lovely, but I’ll settle for a QS.

  38. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 8:00 am

    Sunny, pray for hitting. If AJ is in the tank then it’s academic. We have to hit better than the last two games to have a chance today. :-)

  39. CTYankeeInNCExile October 4th, 2011 at 8:01 am

    It’s not “the same for both pitchers” if one is a lefty and another is a righty, and the ump is favoring one side of the zone. Swisher got rung up on a backdoor slider about two feet off the plate. CC lasts 6-1/3 or more if the zone is reasonable.

    That said, the two money hitters are both under .100.

  40. RR October 4th, 2011 at 8:02 am

    Hope yanks go out and score a bunch of runs early and put the game away early, and go NOVA.

  41. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    Good point Gary. Praying for 3-4-5 to wake up.

  42. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:03 am

    Very frustrated this morning……..probably the closest i’ve come to saying that Girardi is costing the Yankees games. I like him in general and think be had a great regular season…..but he’s dropping the ball this October. The players always have the most say in what happens…..but Joe isn’t helping.

    The strike zone absolutely affected the game last night……..Sabathia’s main weapon against RH pitching is being able to dot the outside corner with fastballs and cutters…….that was taken away because the ump just wouldn’t give that side of the plate to RH hitters and that’s basically all Detroit has. That swung the advantage heavily to Detroit because it took CC out of his game and made him labor big time early……he was tired before he coukd develop another plan.

    Swisher, Tex, and Martin have no clue at the plate right how…….Jeter and Arod at least will work an AB. Both we’re overmatched last night and were able to get on base a few times just by having a plan up there…….Swisher taking a “mighty casey” hack at that 2-0 pitch just flew all over me…..

    .the Yankees 2nd best hitter in September and 2nd most dangerous hitter ability wise is stuck digging splinters out of his behind because of platoon matchups and because the Yanks waited so long to call him up that catching him isn’t even an option…….the way Posada is hitting you can’t argue with him DHing……but does anyone think that Joe Madden wouldn’t find a way to get Montero at bats on this series?

    Ironic that the season is in AJ Burnett’s hands…….but I actually feel ok about their chances……just gage to win tonight any say possible and get it back to the stark m and see what happens.

  43. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:05 am

    Like I mentioned earlier… Arod’s basically in spring training again after so much time off. Even when his knee was ailing back in June, he was still hitting .300 to all fields (singles and doubles) but the knee was sapping his power. The thumb was a fluke thing that caused more time off and know his timing is all screwed up. I am praying to all Gods that he gets his timing back today – because this offense needs him to step up.

  44. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    Im moving closer to wanting robot umpires……im just sick of so many of them being so bad.

  45. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:06 am

    can’t argue with blake.

  46. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:07 am

    arod needs his 2009 groove back.

  47. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:09 am

    Get back to the stadium…..stupid phone.

  48. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:11 am

    The Yanks just have to win 2 games in row…..they did it many many times this year and they don’t have to face Verlander or Scherzer…….

  49. Betsy October 4th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    I’m not upset – whatever happens, happens; if they’re good enough, great, if not, see ya next year.

    I do not like Girardi at all and would prefer he be let go, but there’s no way I’m blaming last night on him……OR the umpires. That game is on CC, who pitched poorly, the offense, and on Soriano, who said would blow the game before it actually happened.

    Whenever it is the end comes, I don’t know how they fix this offense because Tex is going nowhere. Perhaps when Swisher leaves -either after this year or most likely next – but I can’t think of an OF right now that would likely be available.

    So our season comes down to AJ. He’s done it before – I hope he can do it again. He doesn’t get any rope – Hughes hasn’t been used and if this is what Joe has saved him for, then the minute AJ gets into trouble, he has to come in. We may not get the desired result, but for sure it’s better than watching AJ implode

  50. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 8:13 am

    Blake, join the frustrated crowd, I’m more frustrated at the hitting, pick a recent year most any year except 2009 it’s the same story.

    What makes Suzuki such a great player is that he is able to make contact, never tries to do to much with the pitch but just keeps dinking it around the field and ends up standing on first base. Swisher has never been my favorite player, we should be the ones looking to the heavens instead of him when he is at bat.

    Jeter was 2-4 I think I’m happy with that. Martin is getting thrown under the bus, but I actually though he made good contact on a few balls. Guys last night were late on almost everything and many popup’s and opposite field fly’s. That was Verlander does and then he got that curve working to. Shades of Nolan Ryun who followed the same script for so many years. Yanks I hope just to make solid contact today, if they do the hits will fall in.

  51. Betsy October 4th, 2011 at 8:14 am

    Alex needs to get healthy – that’s not happening this year

  52. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:17 am

    The Yankees need more guys that hit .300. Batting average is NOT overated ……batting average plays against good pitching that doesn’t walk guys and doesn’t give up homers.

  53. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:18 am

    I don’t need arod to hit homers with every at bat (which would be nice), just to get back to that .300 singles/doubles hitter he was in May and June.

  54. umbrelladoc October 4th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    I’m not one to blame the umps, but if our guy is getting the outside corner – 3 inches, and their guy is getting the outside corner + 6 inches and he’s justin Verlander, it’s asking a lot to win.

  55. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:17 am
    The Yankees need more guys that hit .300. Batting average is NOT overated ……batting average plays against good pitching that doesn’t walk guys and doesn’t give up homers.

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    Hopefully during the offseason we will start a process to get there. It’s going to be a rough winter regardless of what happens for the balance of this year. Like Lee, CC will dominate the early conversation and decision making.

    Having said that we are still playing this year, plenty of time to debate that later.

  56. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:21 am

    Not quite sure what to say other than that tonight is a must win game.

    That’s the bottom line.

    ;)

  57. Betsy October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    Tex was supposed to be that guy, but he’s no longer and he’s also awful in the clutch………but we’re stuck with him.

    Blake, there’s no room in the lineup for any changes. Po will be gone, but who else?

    I’m very happy for Posada, by the way – I thought he’d have some big moments..

  58. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:22 am

    If the Yankees trade Montero this winter they are absolutely nuts unless its for Justin Upton or Ryan Braun or somebody like that……I wouldn’t even trade him for pitching right now. …….they so badly need another well rounded hitter to go with Cano and its becoming more and more apparent. They need somebody else that can make consistent solid contact.

  59. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 8:24 am

    sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:18 am
    I don’t need arod to hit homers with every at bat (which would be nice), just to get back to that .300 singles/doubles hitter he was in May and June.

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    Sunny, ARod got two walks and a RBI last night. He only left 1 runner on base. While I’d have liked to see him hit there were far miserable batters out there yesterday.

  60. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Blake-

    A Bobby Abreu type would be nice.

  61. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    Dibble is such a moron ……I really can’t believe he has a job talking about baseball.

  62. Betsy October 4th, 2011 at 8:25 am

    They’re not going to trade Montero…………if Cashman does that, then something is wrong with him. It does seem strange that Joe won’t give him ANY shot…………but I assume Cashman is on board with that.

  63. Erin October 4th, 2011 at 8:26 am

    So…..who thought the Yankees season would come down to AJ?? ;)

  64. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:27 am

    True, but a hit with Grandy at third instead of a groundout extends the inning.

  65. JimK October 4th, 2011 at 8:28 am

    I hope AJ pitches the game of his life tonight, but what are the chances? The fact is Girardi’s mismanagement of game 2 is possibly the reason the Yankees are facing elimination. I say possibly, because after Jackson reached on the error he should have gone to Soriano or Robertson in the 6th inning of game 2, but there are no guarantees that either would have kept the game at 2-0. And even if they had there is no guarantee that the Yankees score three runs.
    In last night’s game I don’t think Girardi had any choice but to try to get through the 6th with CC. After Kelly’s bunt maybe he should have pulled CC but that leaves Soriano needing 6 outs through 2 instead of 5. We see how that worked out.
    After the Yankees tied the game maybe he should have went with Robertson, but while Robertson has had a great year he typically throws too many pitches and is less likely to give them 2 innings.
    The bottom line is that the Yankees are behind 2-1 because their top hitters are not getting clutch hits. The irony is that the Yankees current leading hitters are Posada and Gardner (PH’ing for Gardner was the other mistake Girardi made in game 2).

  66. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Swishers club option for next year is $10M, I bet they cast him off if there are some decent FA’s out there and they have some cash left from the CC sweepstakes.

  67. Betsy October 4th, 2011 at 8:29 am

    Perhaps I should have gone to temple during the holidays after all

    http://nomaas.org/images/burnett_prayer.jpg

  68. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Betsy,

    They need Montero to be that guy……and they need to give him the chance to be…….and then they need to throw whatever it takes to sign Matt Kemp after next season. That rebuilds the core of the lineup with well rounded hitters.

    Tex os that type hitter right handed……but unless he majority overhauls his LH swing this winter then he’s going to be a 1 tool hitter from that side.

  69. Betsy October 4th, 2011 at 8:30 am

    Gary, I hope so…….but I don’t think there are

  70. Gary October 4th, 2011 at 8:31 am

    Well time to get the shorts and tee shirt on and off to breakfast with the croonies. Such is the life of retirement here in Fla. Have a great day everyone

  71. Betsy October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am

    Blake, of course I agree. Given that Girardi seems VERY sketchy on him, I don’t know what Montero’s position with the team will be. Let’s see if Matt Kemp goes FA – and even if he does, I can’t count on him as so many things can go wrong. However, you know the Yankees will do whatever they can to get him.

    I don’t see why Tex has to be a switch hitter……….just let him stick with what he does well. Even so, that will not help him become a clutch hitter. It scares me that we’ve got him for 5 more years……

  72. Erin October 4th, 2011 at 8:32 am

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  74. RadioKev October 4th, 2011 at 8:33 am

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    I have full belief that the Yankees will win tonight.

  75. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:33 am

    There aren’t any RF options better than Swisher…..there will be next year though.

  76. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:34 am

    We just have to get this game tonight.

    That’s all there is to it.

    W/o it there is not tomorrow.

    The Yankees can beat Porcello, and it’s possible that Burnett can pitch a good game with Girardi managing it properly.

    Baseball is a funny game.

    ;)

  77. Ys Guy October 4th, 2011 at 8:34 am

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  78. DocTodd October 4th, 2011 at 8:34 am

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  79. RadioKev October 4th, 2011 at 8:35 am

    It can’t be a coincidence that as soon as Tex is dropped down to 5th that he starts going the other way. Proving the point he should have been dropped months ago.

  80. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am

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  81. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:37 am

    Baseball is a game of redemption.

    It’s time AJ.

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  82. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:39 am

    You have to have Robertson on standby tonight……I don’t care if its the 5th inning……if the wheels start to wobble with AJ then you yank him and piece together the pen. They should all be available……

    Aj has been able to get through lineups twice fairly often this year…..it’s that 3rd time that often does him in. Let’s see if Joe actually manages with some urgency tonight ……

  83. Carlo October 4th, 2011 at 8:42 am

    Stop acting like a bunch of losers. We’ve been here before. Win 1 game and come home. Its that simple tonight. Once we lost sunday, most should have known we would end up in this position. This offense has to hit. Its frustrating that one guy hitting in 2009 has washed away the fact that the majority of the players on this team are useless in October.

    I would bench tex if I managed this team. Late inning defensive replacement. Completely useless offensively.

  84. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:43 am

    Blake-

    I didn’t even want AJ to sniff a mound but now that our season is on the line I’ll be pulling as hard as I know how to for him to pitch well.

    He may be a box of chocolates out there but he’s all we’ve got right now.

    And it would be real nice if our offense could pound Porcello like a drum to help him out.

    I absolutely agree with you that the hook with Burnett must be very short.

  85. RadioKev October 4th, 2011 at 8:46 am

    I’d bet Wade and Hughes are on stand by tonight, not Robertson.

  86. upstate kate October 4th, 2011 at 8:47 am

    Nothing is over until WE decide it is…was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor??? Hell no!!! And it aint over now. Cause when the going gets tough, the tough get going. Who is with me? LETS GO!!!

  87. daver October 4th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    I am so frustrated with the offense…especially Tex and Swisher. They are absolutely horrific.

    Tex…aka Mr. Pop Up…NEVER comes up big…it is about time someone in the press noticed (Sherman today). Hit/bunt/slash the ball down the 3rd base line when the 3rd baseman is standing on 2nd base in the shift you arrogant, stubborn SOB.

    Swisher..WTF was the thinking swinging out of his shoes on a 2-0 count after Posada walked. Swisher choking in the postseason is beyond the small sample size…it is reality.

    ARod…like the little girl with the curl in front of her forehead…when he is good, he is very good…when he is bad, he is VERY bad. A clean up hitter that can’t hit the ball out of the infield. Excellent.

    Giardi needs to mix it up tonight. Don’t leave 4-5-6 the same. Move the hot bat — Posada up. Give someone else a chance. Put Jones in RF tonight. Something. Where is Montero? Someone put his face on a milk carton. Give the kid some at bats. How about Posada at first and Montero DH? We may miss Tex’s glove…but will not miss his pathetic bat.

  88. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    kate-

    No offense but it was the Japanese who bombed pearl harbor.

    :)

  89. RadioKev October 4th, 2011 at 8:48 am

    I hope the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor was just a tongue in cheek joke.

  90. Erin October 4th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    ummmm..kate? The Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor. Other than that I like your attitude. ;)

  91. upstate kate October 4th, 2011 at 8:49 am

    come on guys, aren’t you Animal House fans???

  92. upstate kate October 4th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    that was from John Belushi’s motivational speech

  93. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    “I’d bet Wade and Hughes are on stand by tonight, not Robertson.”

    Probably but they shouldn’t be……most games AJ loses are lost because of one jam in the middle innings somewhere. Whether the Yanks win or lose tonight may depend on a moment like that…..id rather have Robertson limit the damage there and see what happens. Hopefully AJ goes 7 strong……but you have you prepare like he’s going to fall apart and be ready to act…..not wait a couple of hitters and let him try to work out of it….act right then.

  94. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:51 am

    Animal House dudes… Belushi anyone???

  95. Erin October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    kate-sorry. Too early and my coffee hasn’t kicked in yet. ;)

  96. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am

    MTU,

    Hopefully a good chocolate turns up this time…..tonight is a toss up…..but so is Porcello and I still think the Yanks are the better team.

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  98. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Blake-

    It ain’t over till the fat lady sings.

    If I were a bettin’ Man I’d say the odds are against us but who’s bettin’ ?

    ;)

  99. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:55 am

    Its been so long since Montero has played now that who knows what he’d even do. If they do make it to the ALCS and they face a Lefty it will have been 2 weeks since he’s gotten any consistent ABs…….

  100. daver October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    I knew the Animal House reference…I can’t believe others did not know that. They must be 12 years old.
    Animal House…one of the best comedies of all time!

  101. Erin October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:52 am
    MTU,

    Hopefully a good chocolate turns up this time

    **************************

    AJ will be a dark chocolate with raspberry filling. By far, the best in the box. ;)

  102. sunny615 October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    kate – i think we just dated ourselves. ;)

  103. blake October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    MTU,

    I like the Yanks chances tonight…..they need their offense to step up and they need Girardi to make the right decisions with the bullpen.

  104. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am

    Blake-

    Girardi is rigid in his thinking. I think we all know that by now.

  105. Erin October 4th, 2011 at 8:57 am

    daver October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am
    I knew the Animal House reference?I can?t believe others did not know that. They must be 12 years old.

    ****************************

    No, just suffering from lack of sleep and not enough coffee. :P

  106. Ys Guy October 4th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    good call kate!

    ..anybody who didnt get the animal house reference….

    …double-secret probation!

  107. daver October 4th, 2011 at 8:58 am

    daver October 4th, 2011 at 8:56 am
    I knew the Animal House reference?I can?t believe others did not know that. They must be 12 years old.

    ****************************

    No, just suffering from lack of sleep and not enough coffee
    ***********************************************

    I’m with you on that! You can thank MLB for these awful 8:37 pm game times. Greedy bastiges.

  108. Triple Short of a Cycle October 4th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Better not bring up Mark’s post season’s numbers in the afternoon when MG and ID are on. They will bring up other players who have hit poorly in the post season and then yell at you and say you know nothing about baseball

  109. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 8:59 am

    Y’s-

    Can I get a pass for being senile ?

    :)

  110. MTU October 4th, 2011 at 9:00 am

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  111. Shame Spencer October 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    ….is it safe to be here this morning?….

    Let me just go on record as saying it will be a long time before I look at another chocolate chip cookie without getting ill.

    I honestly think AJ can pitch a win-able game tonight… I’m just not sure the boys can capitalize. I hope they do, because I can’t imagine how I’d feel if AJ gave us a shot to win and we still couldnt close it out.

  112. Yankee Trader October 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am

    Good morning all-

    Usually when I turn the game off for a while the Yankees come back. They were down 4-2. When I turned it back on the Tigers were celebrating their win.

    They came back but Soriano, no Sorrano, gave it right back.

    Heard Girardi in the postgame, when asked if he was paying attention to the umps strike zone on verlander say he only worries about his pitcher.

    It might help if Girardi complained loudly from the dugout and even go toe to toe with the ump and get tossed!

  113. daver October 4th, 2011 at 9:01 am

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  117. upstate kate October 4th, 2011 at 9:02 am

    I guess I am showing my age, but my son grew up watching that movie (age appropriate parts of course), and he is only 20.

    just trying to get the troops rallied behind AJ :)

  118. joeman October 4th, 2011 at 9:05 am

    shot tonight is to score early & not let DT SP get into a grove

  119. Carlo October 4th, 2011 at 9:07 am

    Wow – Kate, I’m sorry u had to endure that. I got ur reference immediately but society these days is not what it used to be.

  120. upstate kate October 4th, 2011 at 9:16 am

    Hey at least people knew that the Germans didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor :)

  121. randy l. October 4th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    blake-

    hard to believe that montero hasn’t had even one bat so far to get his first post season at bat .

    jorge has shown why he is on this team.

    veteran players like posada should be used during the regular season with an eye on the postseason. use them to keep them fresh for when it really counts.

    that said, a guy like montero should have been used in a way to use him as a weapon in the playoffs.
    this whole platoon thing for montero makes little sense because it takes him right out of a series like this.

    alex and teixeira should have been pinch hit for in the season when they are in their down streaks which are obvious to anyone watching them nightly. then there would be a plan for when one of these guys comes up with men n base in a key late situation.

    alex and teixeira are basically defensive players when they are slumping. they need to be pinch hit for.

    at least alex walked last night which is really about all you can hope for at this point.

    the yankees really are unprepared for postseason play against the tigers. the parts don’t fit . but it is what it is , so the yankees need to win with what they have.

    the yankees need aj to come up big tonight which is kind of scary, but it’s all we have so you go with it.

    the hitters who can hit need to hit. teixeira and alex need to finagle some walks out of their offensive reputations to keep the line moving.

    … and of course the bullpen needs to shut down the tigers and get mariano the ball with a lead.

    if that happens i like the yankees chances.

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    Soriano: “It was a good location, and he hit it out. So we just got to come back tomorrow.”

    A-Rod: “I think we can win no matter what. You’ve got to throw statistics out the window in the playoffs. The only statistic that matters is winning games. And I think both Tex and I are prepared for big at-bats. The playoffs come down to a few key at bats, and when those at-bats come, we’ll be there.”

    Still, to me as a fan, those are the kind of empty words that drive me crazy. You’d want them to throw themselves under the bus for failing miserably and show as much disgust as you feel when you see them fail. Yet they can’t do it, right? They’ve got another game today, so they have to keep trying.

    Yet again…

    Sabathia: “It’s tough. I put us in a bad spot.”

    I like and identify with this kind of sincerity.

  123. longtimefan October 4th, 2011 at 10:30 am

    Anyone ask Girardi what the binder says for tonight?? For all the stats, binders, juggling, resting, and spinning the whole season comes down to AJ Burnett, with Phil Hughes as a backup. The Ayala over Colon looks like a big dumb decision–if Colon was on roster you would have 2 starters to back up AJ. Of coarse it is tough to win games when Cano, Arod, Tex, Swisher and Martin go 0 for 4–Verlander was good not great last night but the NY offense was not even good. Looks like Rafael Soriano’s #29 is safe for next year

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