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The Beltran alternative in right

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 09, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Picking up Robinson Cano’s option for 2012 is a no-brainer. Picking up Nick Swisher’s could be nearly as cut-and-dry, but there is an alternative. As Joel Sherman mentioned this morning, the Yankees could go after Carlos Beltran.

Coming off a strong return-to-form season, Beltran is one of the best bats on the market. He’s a switch hitter, he’s more than capable in the field, and his postseason track record — although both distant and relatively limited — is strong.

The downside…

It starts with the fact Beltran is 34 years old, and Sherman predicts a three-year deal worth $42 million. Putting Beltran in right field adds another name to the list of aging players with multi-year contracts for the Yankees. That’s especially worrisome given the fact Beltran hit just .255 in 2010 and has a series of health concerns. He didn’t play more than 81 games in 2010 or 2009, and this season he was hurt soon after being traded to the Giants.

To me, one of the biggest perks of re-signing Swisher is that he comes with no long-term risk. One year at $10.25 million isn’t a bad contract for a guy who gets on base and hits for power the way Swisher does. Given the way the corner outfield market exploded last winter, Swisher’s option isn’t a bad deal at all. From June 1 through the end of the regular season, he hit .283/.393/.513.

Granted, he’s never done much in the postseason, but Beltran hasn’t even been to the postseason since 2006, and there’s little guarantee that he’d be healthy enough to play in October next year.

It may be that none of this matters anyway. Brian Cashman has already made it clear that pitching is his priority this offseason, and he hinted that the Yankees might not do much to tweak the lineup.

“Our offense, despite (Game 5), is an area of strength,” Cashman said. “Offensively we should be OK.”

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54 Responses to “The Beltran alternative in right”

  1. CountryClub October 9th, 2011 at 1:48 pm

    No way they sign Beltran. They purged all the over the hill talent they could and they replaced it over the past few years with players in their prime. they’re not giving a 34 yr old outfielder with bad knees a 3 yr deal. I wouldn’t even give him a 1 yr deal with his injury history.

  2. Red Robin October 9th, 2011 at 2:01 pm

    No to Beltran.

    Playing in a non-contract year, he is destined for mediocrity.

    Don Kelly is a better option.

  3. Red Robin October 9th, 2011 at 2:02 pm

    1 year for $1.5 million should get it done for Don Kelly.

  4. 108 stitches October 9th, 2011 at 2:09 pm

    Given some uncertainties of the present starting pitching staff, Cashman needs to get another LH either through free agency or trade so Banuelos has a full year at AAA. Find a way to deal Burnett so a No. 5 spot can be opened up for Noesi, Warren, or Phelps. Bring back Freddy Garcia for one more year so Betances can have a full year at AAA.
    Get C.C.’s deal hammered out. Nova should be OK. Get Phil Hughes physically ready at the A.P.I. in Phoenix.

  5. Red Robin October 9th, 2011 at 2:10 pm

    BTW

    Both Max Scherzer and Doug Fister will be available after this season.

    New Yankees ?

  6. Red Robin October 9th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    Doug Fister
    C.C.
    Max Scherzer
    Nova
    Allan James / Hughes

    ——

    No bad ?

    No ?

  7. ariel October 9th, 2011 at 2:12 pm

    A better alternative would be to exercise Swisher’s one year option which they undoubtedly will do AND tell Montero to get an outfielder’s glove and play rightfield in Winter ball and learn the position. Given his performance over the past month plus, he clearly will be, if he not already is, a big time batsman ( 20+ homeruns, 10and 100+ RBI’s, and .300+ RBIs. But where will he play? Not DH fulltime, as the aging “superstars” with the albatross contracts will occupy that spot for years to come, and management loves Martin as the fulltime catcher, and rightly so. And you do not trade a hitter like Montero who is a once in a decade hitter. Prior to the call-up, I had my doubts based mainly on his “OK” performance in AAA during the past two years….but watching him hit the bigs, there is little if any doubt. Not to play him regularly would be an enormous error in judgment. To trade him would be more egregious. I would note that in observing Miguel Cabrera over the recent days, Montero will be that type of hitter, if he is not already there. The combo of Montero and Cano will rival any other duo in baseball. I would conclude with the obvious….daily service as a catcher shortens one career, dramatically, and limits career offensive performance….look at Mauer during the past two years.

  8. Betsy October 9th, 2011 at 2:13 pm

    Too injury prone for me to even consider signing this guy to a long term deal

  9. LGY October 9th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Yes.

  10. willwill October 9th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Montero needs to learn to play the outfield, that’s the bottom line.

  11. Jetrer October 9th, 2011 at 2:17 pm

    Scherzer and Fister will not be available. Why would Detroit trade young quality pitching? And Kelly isn’t a free agent, not that it matters, he is awful anyways.

  12. Betsy October 9th, 2011 at 2:19 pm

    Montero is not going to be a RF……that’s not happening

  13. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2011 at 2:24 pm

    Jetrer, Pay no attention to bandwidth waste.

  14. Phranchise October 9th, 2011 at 2:40 pm

    This tool must have no life, I mean absolutely zero to keep coming on here all day to post useless stuff. How pathetic must your life be that you come on this website to post stuff about other teams? I mean that’s like the Red Sox fan in full gear I saw at game 1 of the ALDS. It’s just really more sad that anything. I feel for you bud if this is what gets you off.

  15. TheStraw October 9th, 2011 at 2:41 pm

    Montero is way too slow to play RF, or any outfield position. They are better off working on his catching to replace Rusell ” the black hole of the lineup” Martin.

  16. bardos October 9th, 2011 at 2:50 pm

    Russell Martin brings a lot to the table. His energy, handling of pitchers defense, pitch framing is really tops. A 230 BA with power is something the Yanks will probably carry and in my humble opinion, well worth it. YMMV

  17. 4 NYY October 9th, 2011 at 2:57 pm

    I would pencil in Montero to be the DH for 2012, catch as needed, all the while learning to play first. He’s “Po” slow, so OF is not an option.

    No to Beltran.

  18. bwelb October 9th, 2011 at 3:06 pm

    No to Beltran unless you can get him for one year. Picking up Swishers option makes perfect sense for the money and lack of quality free agents in the Outfield. Then in 2012 you go after Matt Kemp, Josh Hamilton, or Andre Ethier. In that order IMO

  19. luis October 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Hi evreyone, except Closet Sux Fan,

    No to Beltran. Pick Swisher option. Montero should be the primary DH and BUC for 2012, then you use the tandem of Montero/Romine for 2013.

  20. LockDown October 9th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    Did you watch the interview with Greinke discussing that his team doesn’t like carpenter. He looks so zoned out. Weird dude.

  21. Red Robin October 9th, 2011 at 3:11 pm

    Just saw last night’s box score.

    Ramon Santiago went 3/4.

    WoW !

    When is the last time a Yankees went 3/4 in a postseason game.

  22. ericns1 October 9th, 2011 at 3:12 pm

    Keep Swish for one more year and then go after Kp
    Kemp or Ethier if they are free

  23. luis October 9th, 2011 at 3:14 pm

    Yes, go get Kemp in 2012

  24. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2011 at 3:19 pm

    How far away are useful Yankees outfield prospects?

  25. JobaTipsHisCap October 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    ““Our offense, despite (Game 5), is an area of strength,” Cashman said. “Offensively we should be OK.””

    I don’t think so.
    Throughout the season, Yankee offense can be shutdown by good pitching consistently. Yes, they are able to beat up average pitching to make their numbers look good.
    The bottom line is they are not able to hit against good pitching when things matter the most.

  26. kd October 9th, 2011 at 3:23 pm

    my two cents on the beltran situation:

    he’s shown he can handle NY. that’s a huge plus. a lot of players, crawford, get to big markets and fall apart. beltran’s two month run in houston made him an extra 30 million dollars, but he is what he is, a borderline all star. not a borderline hall of famer. if he wants 3/42, pass.

    on a two year deal, say 2/30, he’s a good fit for the yankees.

    my guess is that he goes to boston to replace jd drew. none of their prospects are ready

  27. blake October 9th, 2011 at 3:25 pm

    I would possibly look to sign Beltran to a short term deal if I could deal Swisher for value…….replacing Swisher with Beltran and getting prospects or allergic else useful makes sense…..just replacing Swisher with Beltran alone doesn’t make as much because I think his injury risks kinda balance out whatever upgrade he is.

  28. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    Beltran had it all back in the day, and still has some. Still, not for three years, if at all.

  29. luis October 9th, 2011 at 3:27 pm

    Tom,

    If i’m not mistaken there are two to three years away. Heathcott is probably in double A, Mason Williams is farther down probably in low A next season.

  30. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    blake,
    What does “allergic else” mean?

  31. blake October 9th, 2011 at 3:28 pm

    If you can sign Beltran to a 2 year deal and trade Swisher for a good pitching or outfield prospect then that’s a good deal.

  32. blake October 9th, 2011 at 3:30 pm

    Tom,

    My phone has a mind of its own ;)

  33. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    blake,
    But what were you trying to say?

  34. kd October 9th, 2011 at 3:31 pm

    when is the cc opt out deadline?

  35. blake October 9th, 2011 at 3:34 pm

    Tom,

    Allergic was supposed to be something ……something else useful

  36. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2011 at 3:36 pm

    blake,
    Man, your phone does have a ming of its own!

  37. tomingeorgia October 9th, 2011 at 3:37 pm

    My laptop love Flash Gordon, the spaceman, not the pitcher.

  38. Giuseppe Franco October 9th, 2011 at 3:47 pm

    # JobaTipsHisCap October 9th, 2011 at 3:21 pm

    ““Our offense, despite (Game 5), is an area of strength,” Cashman said. “Offensively we should be OK.””

    I don’t think so.
    Throughout the season, Yankee offense can be shutdown by good pitching consistently. Yes, they are able to beat up average pitching to make their numbers look good.
    The bottom line is they are not able to hit against good pitching when things matter the most.

    ——–

    First off, every team can get shut down by good pitching. That’s why good pitchers are the hardest commodity in the game to find.

    Secondly, it’s a myth that this team can’t beat good pitching. They beat a number of quality pitchers this year – Verlander, Price, Shields, Lester, King Felix, etc., etc.

  39. hamiltonian October 9th, 2011 at 4:11 pm

    The problem with the Yankees offense, aside from the obvious and blatant biased umpiring, is their inconsistency. They can dominate great pitchers, crap pitchers, so-so pitchers, but they can also be completely shut down by career losers, career minor leaguers, scrap heap bums. And it all boils down to, most of the lineup are guess hitters. Instead of seeing the ball, reacting to the ball, and either taking the pitch or hitting the pitch. As a team, they take the most pitches right down the middle than any other team Ive ever seen.

  40. hamiltonian October 9th, 2011 at 4:13 pm

    And they take the most pitches right down the middle for called strike 3 than any other team Ive ever seen.

  41. BrucePa October 9th, 2011 at 4:16 pm

    How about this? Can we encourage the Yankee Brass to change from a team with bloated contracts that is built to brute-force its way through the weak teams and the 4th and 5th starters of the league with 95 wins every year, only to cave in the playoffs because they’re not built to win when it counts? Can we encourage the Yankee brass to get the team younger and more athletic, and less expensive, with lots of Robinson Canos and Brett Gardners and David Robertsons, but without any A-Rods and Burnetts? Can we please remake this team into a winner in the post-season? Please?

  42. JobaTipsHisCap October 9th, 2011 at 4:20 pm

    LOL

    Giants choke
    This is well predicted, even WSJ predicted it.

    Annual choke

  43. JobaTipsHisCap October 9th, 2011 at 4:21 pm

    now hopefully Jets will lose

  44. JobaTipsHisCap October 9th, 2011 at 4:25 pm

    what’s up with Al Davis’ face? skin cancer?

  45. 4 train October 9th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    yo joba dude. why don”t you go and play nice with your sheep you idiot hick.

  46. Dill Pickler October 9th, 2011 at 4:29 pm

    That comment, about the offense, alone, should get Cashman a one-way ticket out of town. To say that the offense is a strength after the way they have completely choked and been shut down by the likes of Colby Lewis and Doug Fister the past two postseasons — and the lineup is the reason they have not made it further both years — shows a complete break with reality. Cashman is fine with a Jekyl-and-Hyde offense that occasionally blows up and scores a bunch of runs against the likes of Cleveland and Baltimore, then goes in the tank for long stretches and routinely gets shut down by mediocre or worse pitchers. And then does the same thing in the playoffs resulting in an early exit. Fine, Cash. Take that acceptance of mediocrity to Chicago or wherever you want to go.

    As for this blog’s writer’s assertion that we should resign Swisher because he provides so much power and on-base ability and is relatively cheap, I would say that if all you want to do is GET to the playoffs, Swisher is fine. If you actually want to advance in them, he’s got to go. He’s had three years and has failed/choked miserably in the postseason every time.

  47. Dill Pickler October 9th, 2011 at 4:34 pm

    luis, you can’t have your primary dh also be your backup catcher, because if something happens to your starting catcher and he has to come out of the game (which happens every now and then), then you lose your dh. If Montero’s going to be the primary dh, that means we have to carry 3 catchers, the way we did with Martin-Cervelli-Posada this year.

  48. JM October 9th, 2011 at 4:49 pm

    I think CC can opt out three days after end of the World Series.

  49. Giuseppe Franco October 9th, 2011 at 4:54 pm

    Yeah, because scoring the second most runs in the league (and doing so against the toughest competition) clearly illustrates the offense as a team weakness – not a strength.

    Good grief. People are idiots.

  50. Gonezilla October 9th, 2011 at 5:09 pm

    Agree with moving Montero to right, he needs regular at bats and he doesn’t project well long term as a catcher. Swisher has served the Yanks well, but will almost certainly become a liability soon.

  51. Dill Pickler October 9th, 2011 at 5:24 pm

    “Yeah, because scoring the second most runs in the league (and doing so against the toughest competition) clearly illustrates the offense as a team weakness – not a strength. Good grief. People are idiots.”

    Yes, Giuseppe, people who rely on meaningless stats like “they scored the second most runs in the league” are indeed idiots.

    The Yankees outscored the Tigers 28-17 in five games. That’s an average of more than 2 runs a game they outscored them by. Woo-hoo! You must be ecstatic! They won the prize…. except they didn’t. They lost, because they’re Jekyl-and-Hyde, and outside of two games in which the offense exploded for a couple of big innings, they got completely shut down by the likes of Max Scherzer (who had an era north of 4.40 and gave up more hits than innings this year).

    Last year, vs. Texas in the ALCS, the same thing happened. The offense scored 6 in the first game, then 2, 0 (with just 2 hits!), 3, 7, and 1 (with just 3 hits!) the rest of the series.

    Anyone with a brain can see a pattern. It’s the same pattern we’ve seen from this team in the regular season for the past two years. They score a bunch of runs one game, then go a week getting shut down. Then score a bunch of runs again. Rinse, repeat, wipe hands on pants. Yeah, you end up leading the league in runs scored, but if they can’t do it in the postseason, what good is it? They don’t give parades for scoring the most (or 2nd most) runs in the regular season.

    Unless you’re fine with getting drummed out of the playoffs every year after the all-or-nothing offense fails yet again, the offense needs some tweaking.

  52. CompassRosy October 9th, 2011 at 5:25 pm

    Giants choke
    ========

    Not sure 1-12 on third down can be classified as a “choke”
    Glad to have “the other dougie” on my FFT ;)

  53. Dill Pickler October 9th, 2011 at 5:45 pm

    To further illustrate that leading the league in runs scored (or coming in 2nd in that department) doesn’t win you anything, from 1996-2003, when the Yanks were winning 6 pennants and 4 world titles, they led the league in scoring twice: the great ’98 team, and in 2002, one of the two years they didn’t reach the world series. Here’s how they placed in runs scored in the AL those years:

    1996: 9th (world championship)
    1997: 2nd (wild card, lost in first round to Cleveland)
    1998: 1st (world championship)
    1999: 3rd (world championship)
    2000: 6th (world championship)
    2001: 5th (pennant, lost in world series)
    2002: 1st (lost in first round)
    2003: 3rd (pennant, lost in world series)

    teams that came in 1st or 2nd in runs scored some of those years:
    1996: Seattle, Cleveland
    1997: Seattle
    1999: Cleveland, Texas
    2000: Chicago White Sox, Oakland
    2001: Seattle, Cleveland
    2003: Boston, Toronto

    Look, I love having a team that scores runs, too. But if they can’t do it in the postseason, which means having the ability to manufacture runs, then it’s meaningless. And this team has proven that it can’t manufacture runs when it needs to.

  54. talltenor October 9th, 2011 at 7:28 pm

    I can’t stand Beltran, and don’t want him on the Yankees. I don’t think he’s a team-first guy, like Sabathia and Swisher certainly are. I also don’t like his injury history. NO!

    Pick up Swisher’s option, for sure.

    Montero makes the club next year, no doubt, and as the starting DH. I do hope they’ll figure out where to put him, however, and soon.


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