Did we learn anything new yesterday?
The point of yesterday’s Joe Girardi press conference was not necessarily to break news. It was an end-of-the-year question-and answer session, a time to look back and think ahead, but not a necessarily a time to discover new information. Of course, during a slow news period like this, you always hope for some small bit of news.
Did we actually learn anything yesterday?
Maybe not, but there were some things to take away from yesterday’s 36 minutes of Girardi behind the microphone.
• Girardi said there was no hidden injury to Alex Rodriguez. Girardi said Rodriguez’s health problems, and the extent of those problems, were exactly as they were portrayed publicly. I thought yesterday might be a time for Girardi to said, “Yes, Alex’s knee was bothering him more than we let on,” but Girardi said that wasn’t the case.
• The public support to Russell Martin is telling. Common speculation has been that Martin will be back and Jesus Montero will takeover as the regular designated hitter. Girardi seemed to introduce that very idea yesterday. Makes it seem more and more likely.
• Brian Cashman said it after Game 5, and Girardi said it yesterday: The rotation is the Yankees focus this offseason. Speculate all you want about trades and signings to add a big bat, but pitching really is the most obvious need.
• Maybe I’m wrong, but Girardi actually did seem more open to lineup changes yesterday. In the past he seemed to always give vague answers about looking into different batting orders, while immediately defending the current alignment. Yesterday, every suggestion was met with Girardi saying he was open to something new. The fact he actually did move Robinson Cano up to the No. 3 spot at the end of the regular season makes me believe he’s honestly willing to consider changes.
• There’s no easy way to deal with the Jorge Posada situation. Everyone, including Girardi, sees the writing on the wall. Posada seemed to see it when he made that tearful exit during his postgame interview on Thursday.
• Was there a single mention of the bullpen yesterday? I don’t think there was. For a team with a 42-year-old closer, one setup man coming back from Tommy John, another with an opt out this winter, and a left-hander likely to miss a second straight season, the Yankees bullpen doesn’t have many questions. It’s deep enough that if Rafael Soriano does opt out of that massive contract, it would be a blessing.
• Is it just me, or does it seem like Girardi spent the past four days thinking, “How in the world did we lose that series?”
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I’m sure girardi and every player on that team wonders how it happened. Much like 1960 when NY out hit, out pitched and out fielded the Pirates and blew them out in 3 games and lost 5 close games outscoring the Pirates by nearly 30 runs. The better team lost.
I look at it as just one of those things. It’s nobody’s fault and everybody’s fault.
GB……And the Cincinnati Reds payed for that in 1961 even without The Mick……I really thought The Bombers would swat the Tigers away in 4….
Check that …Paid, you’re stuff is contagious GB…
GB……And the Cincinnati Reds payed for that in 1961 even without The Mick……I really thought The Bombers would swat the Tigers away in 4….
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They would have, if our pitchers knew how to exact a pitch sequence to Delmon Young or if a certain thurman munson look-a-like knew how to hit with the sacks juiced.
Just a bunch of teeny tiny things that determine how 1 run games break.
Balk not called there. Tigers getting plenty of breaks as well in this postseason.
Horrible decision by Cruz. Benoit looked very vulnerable.
luis October 12th, 2011 at 9:40 pm
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 12th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
luis, isn’t that a video for the ages??? I can’t get enough of it. The kid who put that together is brilliant. And he had it up almost as quickly as the collapse happened.
Absolutely send it!
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What is very striking is that the Sux had loser faces way before they actually lost!, like they knew beforehand that they were out….with that kind of actitude no wonder they lost.
Wrong on the balk. Looked like it was until I saw the replays. Now the Rangers have to get this thing into extra’s so they can beat the Dancing Queen.
luis, you’re right. They looked totally defeated. And with what we now know, little wonder.
I think as Girardi, we are all wondering how did we lose that series…..But in the end, i would say we lost it because of the lack of situational hitters and Girardi not willing to use his bench more effectively
The Red Sox will always cheat. Whether it be with cameras to detect catcher signs. Theyll always find a way to cheat, because they want to win, at any cost.
Pat, I thought that, too. Never expected the 4-5-6 to fade like that, but, never thought that other than the broken bat single by Cano, he’d disappear in games 2 and 3. The pitching was really good to hold Detroit down as much as the did. It hurt the yanks that they didn’t have any left handed pitcher other than Coke to use. They got to Verlander but couldn’t touch Fister for long stretches. He’s usually they sort of pitcher the yanks torch. If they had brought in Coke, you would have seen Montero hit for Martin or Posada.
We learned nothing new, Chad.
Not much is going to change with the team except for the DH & bench.
I suspect that Garcia & Colon will move on to greener pastures. They pitched themselves into relevancy this season.
We knew that Girardi was open to lineup changes the second he filled out a different lineup with Cano batting higher.
Who finishes higher in 2012, Boston or Showaltimore?
And this is the team we scored 19 runs against in two games. Makes me think that a 7 game series would have been the charm, as long as there weren’t rain outs and Gerry Davises in the house.
Nick in SF…….What was The Showalter’s record outside of the AL East ??? Do you know ??? I recall indicating that I thought they could be a close to .500 club outside the East….
Boston will make the necessary changes to get in the playoffs next year, and compete with the Yankees/Rays for the AL East.
Like I said, they have accountability. They completed the worst collapse in baseball history, just ahead of their 1978 collapse. Terry Francona was held accountable. And the organization wont stand for it. Theyre certainly not going to put subpar quality on the field next year. Whatever team they have to go to, to get gifted a player in the offseason, they will.
Nick,
that is very good question……I don’t see the sux beating either Tampa or Toronto….Tied for last??
“Who finishes higher in 2012, Boston or Showaltimore?
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I think I may be forced to go with Showaltimore!
What was The Showalter’s record outside of the AL East ??? Do you know ??? I recall indicating that I thought they could be a close to .500 club outside the East….
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They were only above .500 against minnesota (who lost 99 games), cinn, and sea. They were really bad against Toronto and Yankees though.
Nothing better than watching a ballgame and listening to 14 hours of willie Nelson singing classics like “Stardust”, “I Don’t Have a Reason To Go To California Anymore”, “A Horse Called Music” and “A Whiter Shade Of Pale”.
Now Yorvett has to lead off cause of Cruz’s bad base running. That hurts.
I’ll let the others place blame for the early exit on umpires, weather and that stuff. I’ll just place it where it belongs…team failure. They were good enough to adapt and overcome, but didn’t do it.
The Orioles were 22-20 vs. the Central, amazing given that the Twins are baseball’s model franchise.
The Orioles were 12-18 vs. the Woeful West.
Cant someone just beat this dancing steroid user?
GB….That’s the bottom line…
The faces of the O’s when they scored the winning run, and the way they celebrated was worth everything to me. I don’t think it can be easy for teams that continually struggle to feel great about themselves or to play with a lot of swagger.
The way the O’s played in September, I just hope and pray theey remember that every day next season and approach the season as if they can compete with anyone. That kind of self belief can really carry a team far, especially if they back it up with effective play. At this point, Andino, JJ Hardy, Angle, Weiters, and Jim Johnson have become household names! (Have I forgotten anyone?)
buck and timmy are downright giddy tonight…wonder why?
Ah, the Twins:
http://www.onionsportsnetwork......-of,26144/
34-38 not too far off….
luis October 12th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
I think as Girardi, we are all wondering how did we lose that series…..But in the end, i would say we lost it because of the lack of situational hitters and Girardi not willing to use his bench more effectively
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I agree. The one real weakness with the Yankee offense was being able to play small ball in close games. The whole season they lost too many games that were close because of that.
There were some manager decisions that didn’t help. Batters who were trying to do too much. The rain during Jeter and Cano’s at bats. Davis helping the Tiggers to a win.
The 5 game series just seems wrong as a way to determine which teams go on to the LC series, as a little luck and umpiring being poor in one game can swing it to favor a lesser team.
I also don’t like that the team with the best record doesn’t face the WC if they are in the same division.
I love Robert Andino now. No matter what he does against us in the future. He said after the game that he wanted to make the Red Sox cry. You cant have any more class than that
In case anyone’s interested in the Showalter’s September record, I will happily look it up for you!
WHO
will hit the walk-off homerun ?
Ainge, Santiage, or Don Kelly ?
They were good enough to adapt and overcome
I’ll reword this properly.
They ***had talent*** enough to adapt and overcome
Trish,
your favorite player….Adam Jones
mick, it might be one of those connect the dots things.
Buck and McCarver live to utter the names of the Sux players early and often. If the Sux can’t be around for them to fantasize to, they definitely don’t want the Yankees there instead. Since the Tigers are the ones who helped them to that moment (by beating the Yankees) they are giddy with hoping for a dancing clown win!
The walk-off for the Tigres is inevitable .
Leyland and his Magic dust .
luis, I didn’t even bother mentioning Ad (ha ha that’s what I call him) because he is a steady force for them. But those other guys really kind of came out of nowhere! Well, not really Wieters, but the others.
Joe Buck is such a bad announcer. Unfortunately his smugness makes me believe that he thinks he is really good.
He just does such a poor job its downright criminal
Yogi,
Very good post, i don’t think i can add anything to it, except that in the end is a team effort. props to you
I hope people agree with me on this…
Joe Buck suffered a disease earlier this year that attacked his vocal chords. Im excited by that, but Im upset that the disease didnt completely destroy his vocal chords. The only thing that means anything to Buck, besides Boston and the Red Sox, is his voice. Without his voice, he’s nothing.
Im just glad he has to suffer some sort of pain for his perpetual bias over the years.
GORGEOUS!
Mike Napoli does it all!
#slowerthangranderson?
UnKnown October 12th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Joe Buck is such a bad announcer. Unfortunately his smugness makes me believe that he thinks he is really good.
He just does such a poor job its downright criminal
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Ahh yes, so true. Unfortunately we have to hear from him in two different sports that’s criminal as well.
Yogi,
On second thoughts……….Note to Girardi: PLAY MONTERO!!
There was a game against the Mets many years ago on FOX Saturday baseball, the Yankees came back from down 4 runs in the 9th inning. In extra innings, this jerk off Buck kept repeating himself out of disgust at the Yankees comeback, “We shouldnt even be here right now” and “This game shouldve been over”
GreenBeret7
I like the phrase “it was nobody’s fault and it was everybody’s fault.” I think it sums it up well.
I think it was easy to not give Cano anything to hit when 4, 5, 6 and 7 were MIA a lot. So, in that sense it doesn’t surprise me that Cano didn’t do much after Game 1(a). However, Cano is such an unconventional hitter, that you’d think he would get a hit whether they gave him anything “good” to hit or not.
Nick in SF -
It would seem so.
Please let this be the innings that Valverde Steroids gives up a run or runs
they should sign Kemp and Hamilton both after next year……and Hamels
The clown is in trouble.
I really want Valverde’s magical streak to end.
It just irks me.
Silly.
But I don’t want the Rangers to win necessarily.
Such a difficult matchup – I don’t really want either team to win….
Michael Young was also on my fantasy team. Great job he did this season!
wouldn’t you just bunt here…i know its Young but still
I do like Michael Young, though. So I’ll root for him to get a hit here.
The worst part about Valveroids is, he’s really not that good. He has absolutely no control, and you should be able to walk against him, but people just try to do too much against this criminal
It was nobody’s fault and everybody’s fault. It was the best of times, it was the worst of times.
It was nobody’s fault and the fault of rainouts and bad umpiring.
Something for everyone there!
That woman has man hands
Oh Michael. Oh well, okay. At least it isn’t two down.
Napoli has home run power.
I’m pulling for Detroit in the series….but it would be almost worth them losing to see Valverde blow a save
or take the loss I should say….not a save situation
I wonder why the Cards took Carp out after only 89 pitches getting through only 5. I would think LaRussa would ride his ace longer than that. Especially considering how weak the Cards pen is.
a HR would be nice, but I’ll take a base hit too!
Thanks, VYA. It’s the only way I could describe it. Cano struck out a lot down the stretch. Chased a lot of pitches he didn’t earlier. He didn’t get a lot of help, but if only they had just 3 of them pick up a single in those three games, it doesn’t make it past 4 and probably 3. As I said, they all had a chance to do something…sac fly, run scoring grounder. Just didn’t happen…whether it was tough pitching orNY hitters being over anxious. Who knows. Get ‘em in ’12.
Gallardo and Carpenter both out of the game after 5. 4-3 Cards.
I like Napoli’s swing….he stays inside the ball well
YEAH!!!! BIG!!!!!
whoot whoot!!! Napoli
YOU CALLED IT SYD!!!!!
He can rake….actually I see some similarities in Montero and Napoli’s swings….both stay inside well and have nice swing planes…and still swing hard.
Ha ha ha, Valverde!
Let’s dance, Pape Grande!
That’s the game
when Cruz is locked in he’s as good as anybody….unreal power
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!!
You aint dancing now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!
Nelson Cruz ought to dance right now on Home Plate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Um, game!
CRUZ= game over. (Not really a rangers fan but that guy has looked sick this series)
incredible extension
Today I like it very much that Jerkaface was right about Naps..
Nelson cruz…is in beast mode..unreal power.
I can’t stand Texas…..but I can’t stand valverde even more
luis October 12th, 2011 at 10:09 pm
Yogi,
On second thoughts……….Note to Girardi: PLAY MONTERO!!
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I agree Luis, I think Girardi just had blinders on to what Martin was doing at the plate (not behind it) and should have at least tried something different when the opportunity was there.
I agree with GB to a point about adapting to the game, but isn’t some of that on the manager to read the situation and help make adjustments? I enjoy watching Swisher, but his post season play leaves a lot of room for improvement. Seeing the way the rain was coming down, couldn’t Girardi have asked for a slight delay or at least gone out to talk to the umpires about the rain with the hope that it would lighten for the at bat to continue?
Batting with that heavy rain took the bat out of Cano’s hands. He was having trouble seeing as was evident with how often he wiped his helmet off. That is safety related and something that Girardi could have brought up.
The clown about to get a loss
Valverde just blew the game open
No dancing tonight Bozo!!!
He can rake….actually I see some similarities in Montero and Napoli’s swings….both stay inside well and have nice swing planes…and still swing hard.
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I hope Jesus Montero doesn’t end up as persecuted and setup to fail by his manager as Napoli.
i will lmao if Texas closes it out tomorrow against…Verlander. (I can here crickets in Detroit)
You gotta give it to the rangers, they have a good offense.
GB7 -
All you can do. Get ‘em next season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbwokmNkr-k
The Despicable Dancing Clown of Detroit .
So what happened to Ainge, Santiago, and Don Kelly ?
“I hope Jesus Montero doesn’t end up as persecuted and setup to fail by his manager as Napoli.”
uhm yes….it’s really amazing that Scosica basically just wouldn’t let the guy play….especially when his team can’t score. Good bats play somewhere
Face….Naps no longer has a loop to his swing…..
Lock, I’m so happy you’re here!
Have you noticed whose been sitting in his dugout with a very serious expression through the whole game? I thought someone said he was just a happy dude all the time and that’s why he grinned like an idiot every time the Yankees were losing!
karma baby!
Yogi Mantle -
I wonder though. That rain, the first time with Jeter, came so quickly and left so quickly. In the ninth it came on quickly again with Cano up. It was just weird. Don’t know that Girardi could have done anything there.
I don’t recall. Did Cano at least ask for time out a couple of times?
10th postseason HR for Cruz. Isn’t this just his 2nd year in the postseason?
Credited with the first walkoff GS. Now the first person to hit 2 extra innings HR in the same series.
I hate to say it, but he’s a clutch hitter.
Yes, Trisha. Verlander has been sitting there, like the tool that he is.
When both Hamilton and Cruz and healthy and hitting Texas’s lineup is really tough to navigate through….
“Face….Naps no longer has a loop to his swing….”
The forearm shortening surgery worked.
trisha,
syd_cash October 12th, 2011 at 10:22 pm
CRUZ= game over. (Not really a rangers fan
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Yea I’m not that much of a Rangers fan either especially when he hit the Grand Slam and the fans in Rangers ballpark decided to chant Yankees suck.
Trisha -
Most guys on teams who are winning are going to be happy, even grinning. If the team is losing, I would not expect grinning. I’m not sure what Verlander’s “crime” is there.
It would be fitting if arguably the best pitcher in the AL Central got squeezed tomorrow.
Next year:
A-rod gets healthy, Teix fixes his swing, Montero in the lineup.
Face….Naps no longer has a loop to his swing…..
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Didn’t have one the last 2 years either
This white stick figure loser, Kelly Don
only if tex and swisher can be half as clutch as cruz…
I know it’s a 4-run lead, but I really hate when they say “goodbye” before the game is, you know, over.
I really don’t like either the Tigers or the Rangers. The only team I can sort of root for is the Cards, and that is marginal, as I am not a fan of the NL. I can’t root for any team that whines about the Yankees spending money and acting as if it causes their failures. The Brewers owner did that. The Rangers with all their comments.
Valverde blowing the game is sweet. I can’t stand that guy, yet you don’t hear the crap about him that the lesser emotions that Joba showed were national news.
Face ….He had a real uppercut swing ….m, very funny
Unknown – I think the reason Carpenter came out was because he had already given up 6 hits and 3 walks and his strike to balls ratio was under 2:1.
finally, ugly dancer chokes!!!
baseball god!
YES YES YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Now may I please see Justin Verlander’s loose as a goose fun and games smile please!
I agree with GB to a point about adapting to the game, but isn’t some of that on the manager to read the situation and help make adjustments? I enjoy watching Swisher, but his post season play leaves a lot of room for improvement. Seeing the way the rain was coming down, couldn’t Girardi have asked for a slight delay or at least gone out to talk to the umpires about the rain with the hope that it would lighten for the at bat to continue?
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Yogi,
I just copied this part of your post because it just sums up very well what went on…..Girardi is a good manager, but he lacks feel of the in-game situations, thus he wasn’t able to recognize key situations that would have turned certain games in our favor or at least gave us a fair chance to win them. I’m not going to post them all again, but in the end we didn’t adapted because the person at the helm didn’t recognize them.
next game VARLENDER loses again.
Only Yanks make tigers look good, seriously.
Goodnight all….Very enjoyable evening here, kind of like the more civilized days…..
I hope the Cards and the Rangers meet in the WS, with the Yankees winning it all.
Yogi,
It was more about the hitters adapting to the umpires and pitchers….but, yeah, Girardi didn’t adapt to the situations at hand, either. Even the pitch that Soriano gave up the homer on was not a bad pitch. Young went out and got it because they knew he wasn’t getting a pitch inside. A wek before that, he couldn’t touch that pitch.
Look at Alex Avila of the Tigers. He chases the same pitch every time…down and in slider, knowing he can’t hit it and can’t let it go. He has yet to adapt to the way they’re pitching him. Oddly, that was never a problem for him during the season.
Karma keeps coming around. First, Young. Then, Agglio Ordonez. Now, Valverde. Hopefully tomorrow, Verlander
Rangers lineup is explosive, better than Yanks.
they can hit anything now
Face ….He had a real uppercut swing
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Check the tape! His swing is nearly identical. He always had a slight uppercut, its why he hit so many HRs.
“Trisha -
Most guys on teams who are winning are going to be happy, even grinning. If the team is losing, I would not expect grinning. I’m not sure what Verlander’s “crime” is there.”
He’s a smug pri*k who was shown laughing up a storm every time the Yankees got hurt (meaning gave up runs, lost the lead, etc.). I never saw a Yankee pitcher do that to the opposing team. But then you’d have to lack class to do that. And if you think I’m exaggerating, ask Lockdown. She and I compared notes while it was happening.
CC Sabathia got totally screwed by Gerry Davis but he stood there and took it like a man and kept on trying. Verlander got bad calls in his first start in the ALCS and scowled and actually started jawboning with the ump.
Screw him!
“Karma keeps coming around. First, Young. Then, Agglio Ordonez. Now, Valverde. Hopefully tomorrow, Verlander”
Yep. The final karma as to be the Kenny Rogers karma, aka the Rangers taking the ALCS.
Villa, Cano kept stepping out of the box after every pitch to wipe his helmet. Getting the towel most times. It was really heavy and the type of rain that usually doesn’t last long. It would have been the Cano at bat especially that Girardi should have at least gone out and talked to the umps about it.
Even Jeter’s at bat, he was taking off the helmet and wiping it after every pitch. You would think that even the umpires would see that and have some concerns over the vision of the batters being affected.
The New Curse of the Bambino?
http://a.espncdn.com/espnradio.....ust576.jpg
Yep. The final karma as to be the Kenny Rogers karma, aka the Rangers taking the ALCS.
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And the Ranger fans shouting Yankees Suck to celebrate the victory?
Lock, perfection would be for Verlander to throw yet another losing effort and have it be the final game for the Tigers.
Couldn’t be scripted better.
pretty decent night behind the plate for a guy that can’t catch also
Yogi, why would umpires be concerned over the Yankees being at a disadvantage?
“And the Ranger fans shouting Yankees Suck to celebrate the victory?”
Doubt the Rangers are giving a thought to the Yankees, as it should be!
Now if they want to show integrity and yell “Gerry Davis sucks!”, I can get behind that!!!
blake, Yep. The Red Sox were rumored to go after Napoli in the offseason. Thankfully, they didnt get gifted him also
It’s going to be “The Curse Of The Theo” for 86 years.
For the Cubs, “The Curse Of The Gorilla” for 106 more years.
Good night Pat M
“The New Curse of the Bambino?
http://a.espncdn.com/espnradio…..ust576.jpg”
LMAO!!!!
That’s just beautiful. Those cartoonists are pretty creative!
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Does anyone remember when Pedro Martinez was asked about the Curse of the Babe and he said something to the effect of “Dig up the Babe, I’ll drill him in the ass.” and then lost every game after that and actually apologized publicly saying he didn’t mean it?
trisa,
yup. With Verlander unable to get through 5 due to his high pitch count from being squeezed.
I see a lot of anti-Detroitism here. Lingering effects of postseasons past?
Trisha,
What Yogi was refering is that at game one ,the fans in Arlington were chanting “Yankees suck”. i didn’t like that either…..we are not even playing against them.
# trisha – true pinstriped blue October 12th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Unknown – I think the reason Carpenter came out was because he had already given up 6 hits and 3 walks and his strike to balls ratio was under 2:1.
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Probably right. He didn’t look sharp at all. I liked that youtube video of the Dancing Clown. Funny
# Yogi Mantle October 12th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Yep. The final karma as to be the Kenny Rogers karma, aka the Rangers taking the ALCS.
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And the Ranger fans shouting Yankees Suck to celebrate the victory?
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Exactly and ppl are rooting for the Rangers after all the crap with Texas last yr from Lee, to the owner taking shots at our club, to Cj Wilson jabbing Yankee spending during the season and after the whole Cliff Lee fiasco(in the off season). The Tigers have some d bags the closer being one of them but c’mon now.
“trisa,
yup. With Verlander unable to get through 5 due to his high pitch count from being squeezed.”
Oh Lock, I would live for that moment. I hope that when their ALCS is over he has the audacity to complain about the umpiring and someone spits back at him what happened to CC.
I am cheering for the Brewers / Cards to wipe out whatever AL team makes it. Though the cards are mostly whiny pricks too.
I on the other hand have no difficulty with people rooting for the Tigers! Hysterical when posters want to suggest who you should be rooting for!!!!
FWIW – YANKEES LOST TO DETROIT IN 2006 WHEN KENNY ROGERS CHEATED BY RUBBING PINETAR ON THE BALL.
Some of us remember past last year.
GB, no doubt. The players on the field bear responsibility for the way they play, but it just seems that Girardi lacks the feel for how things are going. I think it’s why he gets criticism for his following the binder too much, it is as if he just hopes for a big hit rather than looking at what certain players have been doing all night.
I really think the Yankees need to work on adding aspects to their game. A little practice with small ball type playing, bunting when the shift is extreme for Tex as an example.
The games unfolded pretty much like their season had. Too many batters going cold all at the same time, and while that is some to do with the pitching they are facing, it seems odd that Girardi didn’t try to change something, like a pinch hitter in a man on base situation. It might have helped add a spark. Bringing in Jones or Montero in one of those spots might not have worked, but it already wasn’t working so why not try it.
“I am cheering for the Brewers / Cards to wipe out whatever AL team makes it. Though the cards are mostly whiny pricks too.”
As am I, though I am really rooting for the Brewers all the way.
I hate the Cards, but I am NOT a Brewers fan. Maybe my heart has softened a bit for the Cards. They were knocked down a couple of notches off their perch and have the underdog label now.
Leyland is the only “feel-good” part of the Tigers. And I definitely have lingering resentment from the Kenny Rogers’ Tigers.
I’m an AL person, so I’ll have to see which way my heart goes in game 1.
Best case? Yankees take it all. Revisionist history happens all the time in baseball, right?
Jerkface October 12th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
i am an anti-national league kind of guy….but in this particular year, i’m with you, GO NL!
I’m ultimately rooting for the brewers and the cards as 2nd. I don’t like rangers (who are desperate for a rivalry with the yankees, but I just don’t care enough about them to get involved in that nonsense) & I’m irritated at detroit due to the clown and CC getting squeezed.
Yogi – plenty of questions to go around, right? Girardi’s managing has been called into question. Some posters think that if he had done bench substitutions, the Yanks would have won it. They could be right. They also questioned his use of Ayala.
Some posters questioned the lack of pop in the Yankee bats at critical points in the game.
Some posters noticed that CC was sharp as a tack in the first game that got called when it rained and felt that he was probably on his way to a win.
MANY posters noticed that Gerry Davis totally took the game out of CC’s hands with his horrendous calls.
So really, what came first, the chicken or the egg. But for the rainout and piss-poor umpiring, the Yankees would have been in the ALCS and nobody would have known that there wasn’t timely hitting in a game 5. And since to that point they had scored 9 runs in one of the games and 10 in another, the offense would have been the toast of the town.
No one thing defined the Yankees not making it to the ALCS. No one thing whatsoever.
Im a Yankees person, I go with a team that didnt move past us thanks to umpiring, and also a team that tries against the Red Sox when given the opportunity. That rules out the Tigers and Cardinals. The Rangers from last year, leaving Brewers.
http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml.....-york-mets
“Sawx collapse, chaos is simply Amazin’
This year’s BoSox thought they were the Yankees; they ended up being the Mets”
I also ended up with the Brewers somewhat by default, but I also happen to really like them as a team so feel good rooting for them. As soon as the Yanks were eliminated I knew I’d be rooting for the Brew Crew.
Usually I can pick another team to root for when the Yankees are out, but not this year.
m October 12th, 2011 at 10:56 pm
http://espn.go.com/new-york/ml…..-york-mets
“Sawx collapse, chaos is simply Amazin’
This year’s BoSox thought they were the Yankees; they ended up being the Mets”
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Post of the day!
“There’s too much drama, man,” Ortiz told Dominguez in reference to the Red Sox. “There’s too much drama. I have been thinking about a lot of things. I don’t know if I want to be part of this drama for next year.”
But would Ortiz really consider defecting to the other side of baseball’s biggest rivalry?
“That’s something I gotta think about,” Ortiz said. “I’ve been here on the Red Sox a long time, and I’ve seen how everything goes down between these two ballclubs.”
Ortiz stopped well short of saying he wanted to play for the Yankees, but did express respect for the organization.
“It’s great from what I hear,” Ortiz said of the Yankees. “It’s a good situation to be involved in. Who doesn’t want to be involved in a great situation where everything goes the right way?”
http://espn.go.com/boston/mlb/.....rk-yankees
I take that back!, the post of the day was trisha’s you tube video!!
jacksquat, that’s funny because I’m the opposite. As soon as the Yanks are eliminated I can only find teams to root against and end up with the least of the evils as my rooting interest. Again, this year is different because I like the Brewers.
luis, I wish I could take credit but someone had posted it here and I saw it when they did.
But it is the best-done, funniest video I have ever witnessed, bar none.
No spot on the Yanks for Ortiz.
Ortiz is always throwing out hints about how well the Yankees treat their players. Whether it was subliminal courtship or a continual jabs at the Sox, he has never wavered from that narrative.
@CC_Sabathia: Matching @LarryFitzgerald & giving 10¢ per NEW follower I get in Oct to his foundation 4 Breast Cancer research. RT! Starting@ 159,089
Unless you can play RF (which you can’t)….no thanks big papi…..
On the Brewers I just don’t like Fielder. And formerly (cough) owned by Selig, who I despise. Wish the Giants were in it, they are sort of my NL team since I lived in the Bay Area several years.
LGY October 12th, 2011 at 11:00 pm
As much as i recognize that Big Sloppy is a good player ( roids aided ), i don’t want him anywhere near my Yankee team, for several reasons:
1) I hate him
2) He would block Montero
3) I hate him
Take Ortiz out to dinner, then decline to offer him anything.
LGY, Ortiz better think carefully because not everyone is going to turn a blind eye to his milkshake slurping the way his own team did.
I remember reading the Mitchell report and seeing a memo in there where Theo acknowledged that Gagne was a steroid user but said to get him anyway.
Slime, top to bottom.
I remember reading the Mitchell report and seeing a memo in there where Theo acknowledged that Gagne was a steroid user but said to get him anyway.
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The Yankees signed A-rod and Giambi??? I want the Yankees to do everything possible to win. Just don’t get caught
“No spot on the Yanks for Ortiz.”
None whatsoever. He takes up two bench spots and is never out on strikes and so pitches a fit every time he’s rung out.
Happily I didn’t see a memo where Cashman acknowledged Giambi and Arod used but said we should get them anyway.
Pat Venditte, Jorge Vazquez, and Walt Ibarra are playing in the Mexican Pacific League while Josh Schmidt, Maldueno Gonzalez (Dominican Summer League kid), Jose Lopez (DSL kid), Ali Castillo, Jose Pirela, Frankie Cervelli, Juan Marcano, Jose Gil, Luis Nunez, Francisco Duran (DSL kid), Jesus Montero, Jackson Valera, and Reegie Corona will play in the Venezuelan Winter League.
http://riveraveblues.com/2011/.....ing-57717/
And you definitely wouldn’t see it with Giambi as I’m pretty sure Cashman was not for the Giambi signing and so the deal was worked out with Randy Levine taking the lead and Cashman out of it – unless I am misremembering.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 12th, 2011 at 11:01 pm
luis, I wish I could take credit but someone had posted it here and I saw it when they did.
But it is the best-done, funniest video I have ever witnessed, bar none.
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I sended the video to my brother…..i can’t post his answer, but i can tell you that tonight there is a very pissed off Sux fan!!, you would be laughing all night long!
Trisha, I agree that it was no “one thing” issue with the Yankees, but it was something that I have felt all along with Girardi. Throughout the season, even though he has his reasons, Girardi gets too passive about some games. I felt that even during the ALDS this year with some of the moves and non-move he did.
Say the Brewers win the world series. How the heck would Fielder not want to sign back with them? A lot of people think he could go to the Orioles. Now if he does, you know this guy isn’t about winning, over the cashola.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 12th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
“I am cheering for the Brewers / Cards to wipe out whatever AL team makes it. Though the cards are mostly whiny pricks too.”
As am I, though I am really rooting for the Brewers all the way.
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I agree with this all the way.
I do hope the Brewers win it all that would be fun.
luis, I am laughing out loud just thinking about it.
Yogi, I am loathe to question moves because I am not a huge fan of Monday morning quarterbacking. But I’d be lying to say that I didn’t at least understand the questioning of certain moves (or I should say nonmoves) in the postseason.
On the other hand, as mick said, when you have a team of stars, it’s not as easy to make moves as when you have a team of Rays or a team of Tigers.
No spot on the Yanks for Fielder either, or any DH/1B. Montero could be as good or nearly as good very soon, for a ton less money. And even if Montero is merely good/ok in his first year, that’s still a lot bang for the buck. Yanks do have somewhat of a budget. Money saved at DH can be used for pitching, or RF or LF, or SS in a couple years.
Here’s another pet peeve of mine. Home field advantage. I’ve never understood how in a 7-game series, playing games 3, 4, and 5 in the non-fha team’s stadium constitutes home field advantage. To me, that’s where the best advantage lies!
M,
I am not very happy with Montero playing down here…..I just hope he doesn’t gets hurt.
Trisha,
Tonight i don’t think he regards me as his brother
Motte was on my fantasy team too, at the end.
But what if Prince looks at the Fitin Showalters September record?
Damn.
Okay, get ‘em tomorrow. Lots of teams have been down 1-2.
LGY – yeah, that’s the ticket!
On the other hand, as mick said, when you have a team of stars, it’s not as easy to make moves as when you have a team of Rays or a team of Tigers.
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You have a good point here…..But still he should have made some moves regardless of results
Still i think Girardi did a very good job in general, and nobody is perfect. But he does have a hard time identifying Key in-game situations and some times has cost the team some wins or a better chance to get a win.
Jason Motte is asked, “What’s working for you guys?”
99 mph fastball pretty impressive for him as well as the rest of the bullpen work tonight.
Ortiz not familiar with the concept that a team has to want you. You wanting to play for them is not enough to make it happen.
luis, I can’t disagree that it certainly seems that way.
pat October 12th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Trisha-
Can you post the link to the video?
pat,
He won’t play for the Yankees, but he has also burned the bridges with the sux
Trader, only if you come back after you see it and tell me whether you think it is one of the most awesome “put-together” videos you’ve ever seen!
Hint to anyone who hasn’t seen it. Pay attention to the graphics on the screen whenever they’re there. That’s definitely part of the fun.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPNpJX8b-bc
pat October 12th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
Ortiz not familiar with the concept that a team has to want you. You wanting to play for them is not enough to make it happen.
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Minimum wage as the left handed bat off of the bench to pinch hit.
Trader,
Prepare yourself for one of the most rewarding experiences that you will have as a Yankee fan or sux hater
I would love Ortiz here
Guy is a big time clutch performer and a great teammate.
His OPS was 70+ points higher than Cano’s and 40 points higher than Granderson’s. He is still a big time player.
We want guys who can help us in October right? Ortiz is a great start. We signed Damon so why not Ortiz?
Ortiz is not a character guy imo.
El Fako Grande. Pardon my Spanish.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 12th, 2011 at 8:00 pm
Sis, when you play in the weakest divisions, your stats are automatically padded and inflated.
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ECS ~
I tried to reply to you earlier via my phone on my way to an appointment but, for some reason, it didn’t come through….
It is interesting to note, when comparing the specific competition faced (not just the division in general) that Fister started more games vs. .500+ teams than Nova, same amount as AJ and only one less than Freddy. I can’t help but root for Mister Fister – there were SO many games he pitched his butt off in Seattle but, was the victim of zero “O” (as an example, of his 21 starts in Seattle, 8 were losses or ND’s where he gave up 2 runs or less). He’s also proved to be durable (averaged 6.9IP/game).
Anyhoo ~
We can agree on rooting for the Brew Crew
six degrees of separation from Seattle ya know (well, maybe a little less than six)
The Milwaukee Brewers were previously the Seattle Pilots …
http://seattlepilots.com/
BTX October 12th, 2011 at 11:32 pm
We already have to many longterm contracts.We need to get younger not older…..If you want Ortiz then why not Pujols or Fielder? they are both as good or better than Ortiz….I am not advocating for them either, we have what we need already on the team ( Montero )…i rather save the money for Kemp when he is available, he would be an upgrade to Swisher.
m October 12th, 2011 at 11:35 pm
Could you say in english what you wanted to say…i’ll translate it to spanish
luis, I have watched that video so many times I’ve lost count. And I roar every time I watch it. And also, notice new things I didn’t see the times before!
When they start in with Sweet Caroline I laugh my ass off every time. It just doesn’t get old! Don’t you think the kid who made that video did an amazing job of juxtaposing all of the things he did, with such precision timing? I LOVE Shaughnessey in it, and especially the very last screen!
As you say, one of the most rewarding experiences that you will have as a Yankee fan or sux hater.
lol, The Big Fake
Trisha-
LMAO.
Dan Shaughnessy wanted to bag her groceries! Has to stand in line behind Varitek and other RS players!
How many cups chowda during the losing streak? How about how many fried chicken wings and beer consumed b yBeckett, Lester and Lackey during games!
Bum, Bum, Bum
Thank you Trisha. Made my day complete!
Everyone they loave Big Paapi!
I’d be nauseated if the Yankees ever went near that goon.
love/loathe same thing!
Trader, how about Jim Rice and Tom Caron???? You really can’t understand a word that Rice says in real life!
I’m so happy you enjoyed it.
I love Shaghnessey’s face right at the end. I would think he has seen it already, but I think I’ll get an email address for him and send it to him, just in case!
And I am laughing my butt off as I post this!
Watching that really makes me deleriously happy!!!!
I actually wouldn’t mind Ortiz if the Yanks needed a DH, but they don’t.
“love/loathe same thing!”
mel, I was trying to write it the way he sounds when he says it!
M,
LMAO!!!! literally the translation would be “El Gran Falso”.
Ortiz was close to being a Yankee in 2003. Cashman had to remind the Boss that the team already had Giambi- signed the year before.
The team doesn’t need a DH. They have a terrific young hitter already who will energize the team and the fan base.
jacksquat, to show you how deep my Sux loathing goes, when we were playing fantasy baseball, Beckett was still available and as you know, he did have a good run at the begining of the season. So were some other Sux players at various points in the season.
I refused to draft any of “them” nor would I pick any of “them” up for my team at any point in the season. And I knew it could have been the difference between picking up some quick fantasy points and not – and I chose not every time.
Just say no to the king of milkshakes!!!
Plus you know that if he ever stepped foot in pinstripes – and they’d have to be HUGE pinstripes, thereby losing the value of the slenderizing effect – he would be on his best behavior, i.e., he would stop drinking milkshakes, and he would also stop hitting!
SAY NO!
thanks.
But since we speak Taco Bell Spanglish here, how about “El Falso Grande”
Trisha-
The look on Jim Rice’s face when the Rays won their game.
I’ll be saving it and watching it again and again!
“The Milwaukee Brewers were previously the Seattle Pilots …”
Sis, SWEET!!!!! Now I definitely want them to win!
Wish I had gotten your call! My phone’s been acting up too though so it could have been on my end. We will have to plan to talk soon.
XOX
m October 12th, 2011 at 11:50 pm
thanks.
But since we speak Taco Bell Spanglish here, how about “El Falso Grande”
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LMAO! will do!!
Trader, and I am laughing out loud reading your post because I know just what you mean!
How about when that little girl says “The Rays have to lose?” and you can see her actually mouthing it, and then the comment from the girl behind her?
Seriously, I cannot stop laughing as I write this.
I also loved when Rice “says” Mmmm Hmmm, because you know he has that southern drawl when he talks too – if you can understand a word he says anyway!
Yanks don’t need Ortiz. He may end up w/the Orioles or Angels, or maybe even back w/Twins.
A resurgent Tex and ARod, combined with what we’ve seen from Montero, plus Granderson and Cano, all complemeted by Jeter and Gardner would be formidable. Round that out with Swisher and Martin, and that’s one of the deepest lineups in baseball.
But we know that already, right?.
Trish,
Thanks for the link, you made my day!!…..Sweet Caroline, they should start to change that tune.
Good night everyone, very good day at the blog in deed!!
DaSaint007 October 12th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Apparently not everyone got the memo.
DaSaint007-
Agree. With hard work in the offseason by many of the regulars to work on the deficient aspects of their at bats, a looser Girardi willing to tweak the lineup as needed, and the infusion of the most exciting player developed by the Yankees since the Mick, the offense should be fine. Of course Cashman already knows this.
luis, what a wonderful thing to be able to share with good friends.
I just watched it again. The darned thing just doesn’t grow old!!!
Night luis, Night all. Great company, good times.
Trisha-
Came to the party tonight late, but glad I did. Will be e-mailing the hysterical you tube video out to Yankee friends.
Thanks again and good night all.
olbermann tonight on Current had a great eval of the red sux defaming theo and francona on the way out.
check it out. olbermann is a huge baseball guy and said he is friends with both even though he is a yankee fan.
red sux ownership are mean and petty guys big time. it never ends well in red sox land, every star on the way out except shilling is bad mouthed………
They trashed Schilling his last season there. There was major disagreement on whether or not he should have surgery on his arm which was hanging on by a thread.
Can’t wait to tune into tomorrow for another episode of everyone’s favorite soap opera “I’m Melting” The Hilarious Tale of the 2011 Loser Red Sux!
Disappointing to be out of the playoffs that is for sure but to watch this Train Wreck in Beantown is almost becoming a very fair trade off.
• Is it just me, or does it seem like Girardi spent the past four days thinking, “How in the world did we lose that series?”
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Morning, I guess we all are wondering the same thing not only Joe. Detriot was very beatable, they didn’t have that explosive offense and after Verlander average pitching. Texas learned well, they have taken the Tigers deep into each game and outlasted them to win all the close games. Biggest think I see if that they have gotten the hit when they needed it from the guys that should be delivering, we didn’t.
Yogi Mantle -
Thanks for the info on Cano’s rainy at-bat. We were having dinner in an adjacent room. I heard what was going on but didn’t have a direct view. I kept getting up to take a look, but all I could tell was it had to be tough for Cano (and Jeter earlier) to see. It must have been tough for Valverde to see too.
Sometimes, I don’t understand about umpires. I mean, even in the midges game where clearly Torre should have done something, why couldn’t the umpires take matters into their own hands? Don’t they call most rain delays? I’d like to know what the protocol is? Is it how long it rains? How hard it rains? They can’t “know” how long it’s going to last. And even if the batters weren’t their first concern, what about the pitcher? When rain comes down that hard, that fast, there is no opportunity for the water to drain, so doesn’t the mound become slippery?
In both the midges and the downpour scenarios, there was a safety issue at play. We saw clearly with Joba that those pests were affecting how he was throwing (he’s only lucky he didn’t hit a batter) – I can still see the tv shots clearly in my mind and I shudder every time. What if Valverde lost his footing – where does the ball end up?
Oh, well, it’s done.
The playoffs are largely about matchups……..Texas is a better team than Detroit but everyone knew that their RH pitching could could the Yanks some issues in a short series……basically the Scherzer game swung the series……he was excellent and dominated them on that one night……the fact that Young and Martinez are hurting also helps the Rangers
Yanks should have won game 5 though.it was on a platter for them ……
Blake -
Game 5 is going to linger. I’m pretty much “over” the fact that the Yankees did not move on, but Game 5 still presents itself as that “coulda woulda shoulda” game.
If the Yankees were brow-beaten by Detroit, then you just know there was no chance. It’s when it was, as you say, “on a platter,” opportunity was knocking, that it haunts.
I know ballplayers need to move on, but since it was the season-ending game, and there’s so much time before they can play another game to “wipe it out,” and move on, I’m willing to bet there’s a lot of replays going on in the sleeping minds of more than a couple of Yankees.
Villa,
Yea it hurts……last year with Texas you could see it coming…….I thought the Yanks were going to win this year down to the last inning….
Anyway, yay for the Cardinals.
They’re the closest I have to a rooting interest for any of the teams. And it’s not a strong one at that.
Last year at least I was able to really get behind the Giants.
just for Erin, because she can’t get enough of salacious stories and gossip.
http://www.nypost.com/p/pagesi.....ye0XFwoZZK
Good morning gentlemen!
Trisha posted this hilarious you tube video about the RS collapse. If you haven’t seen it, take the time to watch it.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPNpJX8b-bc
Trying again:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPNpJX8b-bc
Where is MTU? We may need a search party.
I think I would boo every single Ortiz at bat if he was a Yankee. He’s a scumbag with a huge ego, he doesn’t hold himself accountable for anything, and he showed up his manager.
I’d honestly bet the Rays make a run at him.
I could see Ortiz to the Rays for sure.
GB
NY Post title: Blonde good ‘fit’ for A-Rod.
Doesn’t that fit the meaning of double entendre!
good morning all
I don’t really care who wins, altho I am sorta rooting for the Brewers.
For all the 2nd guessing Girardi has been subjected to, it might be worth mentioning that Washington has stuck w/ Michael Young w/ his pitiful post season .118 BA, and last night it paid off as he got a timely RBI.
I think it’s a well-put together video, but hilarious? No.
Never like seeing the Yankees lose.
there is no place for Ortiz…one more rat fleeing the sinking ship
David Ortiz
36 next month
.372 slugging percentage in September
8 runs in 111 at-bats, 1 homer, for the month.
No we don’t need another aging “slugger”
upstate kate October 13th, 2011 at 8:01 am
there is no place for Ortiz…one more rat fleeing the sinking ship
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David Ortiz will never be a Yankee
Yankee Trader October 13th, 2011 at 7:45 am
Good morning gentlemen!
Trisha posted this hilarious you tube video about the RS collapse. If you haven’t seen it, take the time to watch it.
//www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPNpJX8b-bc
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Looks like Shaughnessy spent too much time under a sun lamp.
The best was the caption: “I’d punch a baby in the nose to bag her groceries.”
Hopefully Boston caves and gives Papi a 3 year deal.
Villa- sorry you didn’t find some of the inserted captions about the Red Sox demise funny.
The Yankees offense will be fine.
The players need to spend their off season working hard on their deficiences.
Girardi needs to loosen up and tweak the lineup when needed.
Montero will add excitement and energize the team as well as the fans.
Yankee Trader October 13th, 2011 at 7:55 am
GB
NY Post title: Blonde good ‘fit’ for A-Rod.
Doesn’t that fit the meaning of double entendre!
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yeah, as bad as the Post is, the headlines are the best, just for laughs.
Looks like Shaughnessy spent too much time under a sun lamp.
The best was the caption: “I’d punch a baby in the nose to bag her groceries.”
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GB-
I think Shaughnessy will have to stand in line behind Varitek and other RS players!
GB
A little salacious now and then makes the inane “GM-ing” here more bearable some days.
Yankee trader -
I didn’t see the captions, I guess. Because I didn’t see the one GB7 just posted about bagging groceries.
Villa-
I should have warned you to pay close attention to the captions. When you have time try watching it again. Also the dialogue and captions between Tom Caron and Jim Rice are very funny.
My bad!
Hard to imagine the Yanks having interest in anyone over 35 this off-season.
Other than starting pitching, DH and possibly RF it’s not likely there will be many changes. Dickerson/Laird replacing Chavez/Jones gets them a lot younger. Montero for Posada is another major change in the overall age of this club.
The Yanks can use some top minor league talent and an excess of capable bullpen arms to put together a package for a solid starter. No way they will hold on to Robertson and Soriano and Chamberlain and Hughes and Noesi and Ayala and Wade and Kontos.
I assume Hughes or Noesi will be in rotation… could it be both?
CC/Nova/AJ/Hughes/Noesi? Could be, but I expect the Yankees to look for a veteran pitcher.
It will be interesting to see who remains in the BP… a lot of good choices.
Yankee Trader -
Rewatched. The captions definitely did not show up first time around.
Still, maybe I’m humor challenged.
RadioKev October 13th, 2011 at 7:52 am
I think I would boo every single Ortiz at bat if he was a Yankee.
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I’m not a boo-er (sorry Shame Spencer), but I think I would have to join you in that. What an idiot. He’s been hinting he wants to be a Yankee for the past 2 or 3 years. Just…..no. LOL
yeah, remember Manny wanted to come to the Yankees as well. I guess that shows the Yankees really are the red sox’s daddy
Still, maybe I’m humor challenged.
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Villa-
I doubt that! When the Yankees lose in the postseason it can become the equivalent of “post partum depression.” Don’t worry it’ll go away without the need for drugs or shock therapy!
YT -
The stuff between Caron & Rice were okay (except for the bagging groceries comment – I never find that kind of stuff funny). The hobbit jokes are old, but I guess since this was made by a Red Sox Fan (presumably?) it puts a different spin on it.
I was just really impressed with the choice of song (When September Ends) and then seguing into Sweet Caroline. Like I said – I thought it was a really good video, I just didn’t find it “hysterical.” It has to be me, since the overwhelming take on it seems to be in the “hysterical” column.
YT -
That has to be it – Post-post-season depression. Anyone got a xanax????
just stick around and look at some of the crazy trade proposals, that will get you laughing
Just say no to David Ortiz.
That would be a nightmare.
And it would make absolutely no sense at all.
Ortiz would be great if they commit to Montero at catcher.
I can’t stand Ortiz….that commercial where he goes around NYC trying to get everyone to give him a hug makes me sick……phony.
upstate kate -
When does Bret show up??? LOL
“Ortiz would be great if they commit to Montero at catcher.”
He can’t catch…..haven’t you been watching how bad Napoli is hurting the Rangers.
upstate kate October 13th, 2011 at 8:37 am
just stick around and look at some of the crazy trade proposals, that will get you laughing
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Bret and Chip make those trade proposals with the sincerest of intentions.
I know. I know. That’s the scary part. They’re sincere.
Subtract Posada and Martin
Add Montero and Ortiz
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Great success!!
no LGY
Boston Herald says it’s much simpler than Trisha says it is. Get rid of Beckett. Problem solved.
http://bostonherald.com/sports.....position=0
Martin isn’t going anywhere. Cash, Girardi and the pitching staff love him.
It sounds like Montero will be the DH/BUC, which should be a nice transition for him.
CJ Wilson against Verlander.
2011 postseason stats for Wilson:
IP-9.2
H-13
Earned Runs-8
HR-3
BB-6
SO-12
WHIP-1.97
BAA-.317
ERA 7.45
If he performs poorly again tonight, and in the WS, do you still see him as a #2 on the Yankees? Would you still want him?
LGY October 13th, 2011 at 8:38 am
Ortiz would be great if they commit to Montero at catcher.
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NO!!!
YankeesInk Breaking: New York Yankees fans to send Boston Red Sox group hug for putting the fun back in October baseball. #StinkandStench
I don’t think Chip is really sincere when he proposes those trades. I think he is bored during the off season and likes to stir things up.
The Baseball Gods don’t like Canadians.
Hey, if they’re considering Ortiz, they may as well spend the serious money and get Prince Fielder. If we get Ortiz, I’d hope Noesi punches him out in Spring Training, and then we cut him.
New Post: Would you make this trade?
Is it just me, or does it seem like Girardi spent the past four days thinking, “How in the world did we lose that series?”
If he did he should also be asking himself why he left Arod in the 4 hole and gave Montero only two bats in the series
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