Yankees begin organizational meetings in Tampa
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 26, 2011 
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Nothing necessarily new here, but this is the latest from the AP down in Tampa.
TAMPA, Fla. (AP) — New York Yankees general manager Brian Cashman and other high-ranking team officials have gathered in Florida to address offseason plans.
The first day of meetings started Wednesday at George Steinbrenner Field, the Yankees’ spring training home.
Items on the Yankees’ agenda include whether to pick up right fielder Nick Swisher’s $10.25 million option and formulating potential plans for ace CC Sabathia, who can opt out of his 7-year, $161 million contract after the World Series. Cashman’s current contract expires at the end of the month, as well.
Others involved in the meetings included managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner, team president Randy Levine, special adviser Gene Michael, senior director of pro personnel Billy Eppler, assistant general manager Jean Afterman and senior vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman.
I guess Eppler didn’t get the Angels GM job as Oppenheimer must still be in the hunt.
Well, maybe, I’m wrong about that.
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Yankees exec billy eppler was called for 2nd interview by angels, but damon oppenheimer did not get 2nd call.
craw – well, it does raise some questions. Though, Eppler is still aware of how the Yanks think about various players. Guys move around all the time, though.
Crawdaddy,
I had the same reaction as you to Oppenheimer’s absence. Curious, Eppler would be there but not him. Of course, their could be a million reasons starting with illness for the absence..
Maybe, the list of names isn’t complete.
Well, that info is coming from Heyman, so take it with a grain of salt.
Also, Eppler could be making a presentation and is then excused from the rest of the meeting as they discuss the meeting’s agenda.
“Making bad decisions on a whim and getting lucky is not a sustainable strategy.”
As I’m never real big on comments such as these without some substantial backup, maybe you’d like to elucidate, ID. Or were you just going for the laugh?
Maddon’s success is a lot more than a fluke. And he doesn’t hesitate to play match-up, most often successfully.
I’ll state it again – or maybe RSM really took care of it with his comment about Girardi being a great regular season manager and maybe a little too careful in the post – I would love to have a little bit of Maddon’s management style infused into Girardi.
Of course, since you added the part about “getting lucky” I would have to guess that you were doing nothing more than playing arm-chair manager, since getting lucky implies successful strategy…
Well, maybe, I’m wrong about that.
SI_JonHeyman Jon Heyman
Yankees exec billy eppler was called for 2nd interview by angels, but damon oppenheimer did not get 2nd call.
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That’s good news.
Just got my Yankee playoff tix refund
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trisha – Maddon makes bad baseball decisions all the time. He has gotten very lucky with them and has a reputation for those bad decisions working out for him.
You can twist what I said however you want, I want nothing Maddon does to infect the way the Yankees play ball.
Trisha – More to the point, do you want to someone manage in a style that brings consistent success? or someone that may win you a series by making forced decisions once in a while, but will also lose you lots of games and cost you lots of runs in the process?
Maddon’s ways wouldn’t work with the Yankees.
pat gets the prize for the morning’s best new phrase: “pretzel logic math”
Joe from LI gets the nod for most sensible post on Yu, Yankees pitching depth, and Boston’s lack thereof.
ID gets the Big Cajones Award.
You’re not the only one tired of the coulda, shoulda talk.
ID,
OK, but how, with Tampa’s payroll and youth, do they get to the playoffs so often? Maybe their manager inspires them somehow.
Am I a bad person for being disappointed that Amber’s tease was of her 4 kids and not 4 Yankees?
I like that Maddon is not afraid to substitute players.
When I said I wanted Girardi infused with a little Maddon, it’s exactly what I meant. I did not say I want Girardi to turn into Maddon.
Speaking of coulda shouldas, I rode by the Stadium on the 4 Train earlier today, and spied into the gap there to see they’re still trying to free the embedded backside of Jesus Montero from the dugout bench
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I think we all wanted Alex and to a lesser degree Tex substituted at some point, but it’s not happening in NY.
Montero you could argue for. But hopefully less and less as time goes by…
m October 26th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
Maddon?s ways wouldn?t work with the Yankees.
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agreed
“More to the point, do you want to someone manage in a style that brings consistent success? or someone that may win you a series by making forced decisions once in a while, but will also lose you lots of games and cost you lots of runs in the process?”
I don’t see how you can argue with Maddon’s success rate! The guy does it on a shoestring. Yes, the beantown Titanic helped, but Maddon lost his entire flippin’ bullpen, plus Crawford and a few other players. Give me a break! So I don’t agree with your definitition about a series of forced decisions once in a while and losing lots of games and costing runs.
The guy is genius to do as well as he has done.
J. Alfred Prufrock October 26th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Hi everyone!!, so That`s why the Jesus isn`t playing down here?!
Maddon won because he has good players (there system is stacked from 10 years of sucking)…and the Sox had the good grace to suck down the stretch.
He’s a good manager, and he can color outside the lines because there are no lines.
Posting on this forum is like playing that game “secret” where you whisper something to someone and they whisper it to the person next to them and so on and so on, and by the time it gets to the last person, the message bears little resemblance to what was originally said.
But since this is a slow news days, I guess Maddon’s managing style and why it wouldn’t work for the Yankees is as good a topic as any.
ProspectInsider Jason A. Churchill by RiverAveBlues
The Angels have passed on Damon Oppenheimer. One exec texted me this morning to call that a mistake. “Angels aren’t hiring the best people.”
“beantown Titanic”
I heard that they are hiring Leo Di Caprio as an special advisor
“Maddon won because he has good players (there system is stacked from 10 years of sucking)…”
Do you think they stack their system with relief pitchers? I don’t either.
m October 26th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
Am I a bad person for being disappointed that Amber?s tease was of her 4 kids and not 4 Yankees?
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Yankee playdate??
Well, we could roll Girardi, Sciocia, TLR, Maddon, Gardnehire into one really big manager, but we can’t.
I don’t think Girardi is imaginative, I just think he has more egos to massage.
Girardi’s not perfect, but any other manager would have his flaws and mistakes made as well.
luis October 26th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
J. Alfred Prufrock October 26th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Hi everyone!!, so That`s why the Jesus isn`t playing down here?!
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luis, you make a good point. But I thought Jesus could be everywhere at once
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Have the games started down there? Good to see you
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“The Angels have passed on Damon Oppenheimer.”
Good….we like him just fine.
Maddon manages the team he has. So did Girardi, when he had that young team in Florida, tale chances, what the hell, you can’t guess who’ll come through, so use them all. With a 200 million dollar team, these guys are supposed to do their jobs. A whole different situation, I guess, which keeps Girardi between the lines with conventional thinking.
Erin October 26th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
ProspectInsider Jason A. Churchill by RiverAveBlues
The Angels have passed on Damon Oppenheimer. One exec texted me this morning to call that a mistake. “Angels aren’t hiring the best people.”
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Thanks, Erin.
That is insanely good news!!!
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I would not have been in favor of pinch hitting for Alex.
Praise the Lord! re: DO.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 26th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Posting on this forum is like playing that game “secret” where you whisper something to someone and they whisper it to the person next to them and so on and so on, and by the time it gets to the last person, the message bears little resemblance to what was originally said.
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Trisha, it doesn’t take that long
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yankeefeminista October 26th, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Praise the Lord! re: DO.
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/givinghighfiveicon
Lessons learned from the blog today:
CC should be kept at any cost. There is no way to win without him.
Yu Darvish is barely a AAA player.
Math is bad, especially if it’s complicated (more than grade 3).
Joe Girardi is nearly perfect.
You guys are geniuses!
good point, trisha.
I should give credit to Andrew Friedman for bringing in Farnsworth to ably repolace Soriano. I’ll credit Friedman for the Damon signing, too.
I will absolutely give Maddon credit for playing hard down the stretch and taking advantage of Boston’s collapse.
But it was pretty close, they needed Papelbon to lose and the Yankees to win that last game. Neither happened and the rest is history.
The Angels have passed on Damon Oppenheimer.
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Dammit! Cashman hurry up and put an add out on craigslist for anyone needing a GM. We
need a AAAA affiliate asap!!
Cant wait till this crappy playoffs is over and the winter games/goodies start. Cant believe
baseball isnt like WWE and make it a must to keep the Yanks in the playoffs till the end.
Baseball without the Yanks suck. Refuse to watch an inning of it.
“Math is bad, especially if it’s complicated (more than grade 3).”
I agree
J. Alfred Prufrock October 26th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Yes, they have been playing for two weeks now. I don`t know if you read one post i made about a week or so ago, but apparently Montero is not going to play down here….IMO that`s good news because they want to protect him for next season.
it`s good to be around!
Ack, needed Papelbon to lose and the Yankees to give up a 7-0 lead. The rest is history.
m,
Maddon didn’t play hard down the stretch, he somehow got his team to do it. No credit for that?
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luis, I read it and gave you props on the blog for scooping Chad & everyone else
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Have you gotten to any games? I’m already going through withdrawal!
New Post: Tonight’s World Series game postponed
gee why didn’t they think of that for the ALDS game 1?
J. Alfred Prufrock October 26th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
luis, I read it and gave you props on the blog for scooping Chad & everyone else .
Have you gotten to any games? I’m already going through withdrawal!
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Not yet, i`ll wait for the season to really get underway which is about Nov 10th, when most of the good players that are allowed to play down here start getting in to the games. Besides the last three months of the year is when i really have to work long hours!!
“Trisha, it doesn’t take that long
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mel, not a question that they needed the beantown maurauders in order to get as far as they did. But the fact that they lose their best players to free agency and still end up somewhere in the hunt is a huge tribute to the way they manage what they have.
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“With a 200 million dollar team, these guys are supposed to do their jobs. A whole different situation, I guess, which keeps Girardi between the lines with conventional thinking.”
And therein lies the conundrum, and a real one for Girardi, I’m sure. Do you take out one of your regulars that has gotten the job done for you all season and replace him with a pinch hitter or do you take the chance that he is going to come through even though he hasn’t been hitting. You know the old saying, slumps don’t last forever. Do you use one of your best relievers in a situation where you may be saving him for the next game because you’re not sure your next-day starter is going to give you long innings, or do you bring him in immediately, a la the screams of lohud?
One thing that Chad said, and I definitely agree with his take: Girardi always has a thought-out reason for making the moves he does. He doesn’t fly by the seat of his pants.
Hi Trish!,
very good post…..But in fairness, most of the critics where complaining about not pinch hitting for Martin, who didn`t hit at all in the regular season, except maybe for two or three weeks in April.