World Series Game 6: Rangers at Cardinals
Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 27, 2011 
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After last night’s rain, the World Series resumes tonight with Game 6 in St. Louis. The Cardinals are going with their only left-handed starter, while the Rangers are using their only right-handed starter. It’s a rematch of Game 2, which the Rangers won with a late comeback.
• The Cardinals are preparing themselves for the idea that this might their last game with Albert Pujols. For the record, absolutely none of my friends back home are prepared for this situation.
• Even though it pushed back their first chance to clinch — and opened the possibility of Chris Carpenter pitching Game 7 — the Rangers were OK with baseball’s decision to postpone last night’s game.
• Out in St. Louis, the great Rick Hummel wrote that history is actually on the Cardinals side now that they’re coming home down three games to two. As Hummel wrote: Seven of the last eight times a team has returned home trailing 3-2 after five games in the Series, the home team has won both Game 6 and Game 7.
• According to FOX, Game 5 drew the highest Dallas-market television rating of any Rangers game in franchise history and surpassed the local rating for every game of the NBA Finals (which the Mavericks won).
• As you might imagine, FOX is rooting for a Game 7 in hopes of big ratings.
• The Cardinals are bringing back David Eckstein — their 2006 World Series MVP — to throw the first pitch. Vince Coleman — leadoff man of my youth — will “deliver” the game ball.
CARDINALS
Rafael Furcal SS
Skip Schumaker CF
Albert Pujols 1B
Lance Berkman RF
Matt Holliday LF
David Freese 3B
Yadier Molina C
Nick Punto 2B
Jaime Garcia LHP
RANGERS
Ian Kinsler 2B
Elvis Andrus SS
Josh Hamilton LF
Michael Young 1B
Adrian Beltre 3B
Nelson Cruz RF
Mike Napoli C
Craig Gentry CF
Colby Lewis RHP
Associated Press photo
Could be the last game until spring. I hate that thought, but savor it.
tomingeorgia…..I had Texas and 6, and I’m playing them once agin tonight, although they’re even money according to my line….
Pat M. October 27th, 2011 at 7:53 pm
Earlier today there was some talk about retaining Eric Chavez…..I think they should ink him for another season as they have no one to play 3rd like him and he’s still a veteran stick off the bench…….GB, pool service wearing Halloween attire, orange tops , black bottoms and vampish makeup…….Oh my, can’t wait until Christmas outfits……
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Pat,
It’s all on Chavez. I’d like to see him return, but, Laird is more than capable of taking over. Chavez was a nice surprise, though.
I would imagine those were nice treats today. You are waiting for Christmas? Yeah, but you have a bunch of gifts that you can’t unwrap. Seems like a bunch of little cuties dressed like New Years babies might be enjoyable, though.
Pat M,
I don’t bet on humans, occasionally on the ponies. But I hate the end of the season. No offense, but I hope you are wrong. Make it back on the NFL and college this weekend.
GB….Do you think Laird is ready ???? No way does Garcia shust down The Rangers again
Pat, what Laird needs is more than 4 ar bats every 2 weeks. He’s worked hard and his glove is really starting to become quality. I think he can handle the job.
1. I am a huge fan of Eric Chavez. Would love to see him back with the Yanks.
2. Snowing here too. I am FREEZING!!!
My money is on Himey Garcia.
GO CARDS!
DON’T GO RANGERRS!!!
Vince Coleman is delivering the ball? Hope he stays away from those dangerous automatic tarp rollers.
I’ll say this. For a World Series that holds little national interest, the Rangers and Cards have at least made this a worthwhile watch. It’ll be nicer, of course, if it goes to Game 7.
Sir Lance!!!! Go CARDS!!!!
C’est Louis, C’est Louis!
Yay Berky! Go Cards!
HARDEE HAR HAR HAR HAR HAR!!!
Colby Lewis, Colby Shmewis.
I <3 Chavez
I want him to come back 
Lock, since you’re here, this is something I was thinking about. Detroit’s ballpark is a pitcher’s park beyond question. Home team plays half of their games in their own park. Is it any wonder that Verlander would have the stats he does (and who knows how much help he’s had from the Gerry Davises of the world.)
I wasn’t overly impressed with what he did in the postseason, either.
Easy to look good when half of your stats come in a pitcher’s park and you play in a cake-walk division!
And I don’t care who here is in love with Verlander, so there. You’re in love with the stats he’s amassed under rather ideal conditions.
Yeah yeah I know, he’s the second coming of Jesus…
trisha,
No doubt pitching in that park helped him. And he is a really good pitcher, but there was so much hype about how they were going to win it ALL because they had Verlander, and he wasn’t all that impressive, even with all the calls davis gave him.
Freese is really a good player!
Great DP
The wheel play! It’s nice seeing it not played against us for a change.
Oh man, the Cards just ate Lewis up on that bat. Awesome.
Small ball to the rescue
I gotta tell ya, I just have the feeling that there’s still a lot of juicing going on in MLB. Since the non-commissioner has sat on his nerdy butt and not made a big issue of PEDs since Congress has backed off, I believe that there’s been a collective sigh of relief breathed and a lot more bravery in terms of juicing.
Good ole Bud. I guess the overseeing of PEDs is keeping Questech company in some locker in the bowels on MLB.
bowels of MLB
Radio,
Have the pitcher swing away on the first pitch and put the the fear of god into the corner infielders.
Cards lucked out there.
boy, that garcia was given a gift by lewis on that bunt, and he can’t take advantage and end the inning.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
I gotta tell ya, I just have the feeling that there’s still a lot of juicing going on in MLB. Since the non-commissioner has sat on his nerdy butt and not made a big issue of PEDs since Congress has backed off, I believe that there’s been a collective sigh of relief breathed and a lot more bravery in terms of juicing.
Good ole Bud. I guess the overseeing of PEDs is keeping Questech company in some locker in the bowels on MLB.
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What makes you say that? Aren’t runs down across the board in baseball?
C’mon Garcia.
“What makes you say that? Aren’t runs down across the board in baseball?”
I guess I believe there is still juicing going on. You have to feel comfortable enough to do it, and the noncommissioner has allowed there to be an atmosphere where there are still players who aren’t afraid to try it out. I’m sure that some of the players got fast religion when they escaped execution in the Yankee Report, I mean the Mitchell Report. But if MLB was really serious about PEDs, there would be nobody doing it.
Selig is a disgusting excuse for a commissioner, a sneaky little nerd who helped Jeffrey Loria to screw the Expos and who allowed Loria and Henry too basically manipulate the buying and selling of teams and players. HE IS A WORTHLESS LITTLE SPECK OF DUST WHO HAS ALSMOT SINGLEHANDEDLY RUINED A BEAUTIFUL GAME WITH HIS INDIFFERENCE TO INTEGRITY AND FAIR PLAY.
Anybody noticed it’s a tie game in the 2nd? Pretty good game so far, and I’ll miss it when they’re done playing.
Yes BUD SELIG, I mean you.
I hope you have your minions googling your name all the time to see what is being said about you, you cheat and thief of the highest order. You are a disgrace to major league baseball.
I want the pain of Yankee-less baseball to end.
trisha,
Who is juiced in this game, except emotionally? Proof?
hey, trish, what are you drinking tonight?
“Anybody noticed it’s a tie game in the 2nd? Pretty good game so far, and I’ll miss it when they’re done playing.”
I don’t tend to get too hepped up in the 2nd inning. Yes I noticed it’s a tie game in the 2nd and I also noticed that this isn’t a tightly-pitched game by either pitcher so I am not really rivetted at this point. I’m sure I will be at some point. Still hoping for the Cards to break it open.
Joe,
I’ll have some of that.
“hey, trish, what are you drinking tonight?”
Certainly not Bud’s kool aid!
trish,
I can’t remember you SHOUTING LIKE THAT!
“trisha,
Who is juiced in this game, except emotionally? Proof?”
Yeah, tom, I have the results of their blood tests and urinalyses but I’m sworrn to secrecy. Best I can tell you is that you have to let your eyes and logic guide you on this one.
Tricia….Cold night, maybe some Remy Martin Cognac ???
you know, outside of that one game, pujols has not looked so hot.
That flyout that Albert just hit very well could have landed in the Monster seats or at the very least worth a tin clang for a double
Good evening-
Just tuning in. David Freese was traded by the Padres after the 2007 season to the Cardinals for Jim Edmunds.
I see where Boreass was kidding but has talked to Cashman 3 or 4 times over the last few days-gauging Cash’s interest in Carlos Beltran?
true, pat m., but, between expanding his own strike zone, and calling his own plays at the wrong times, he has had some poor moments.
still a great hitter. he’d do best to stay in st. lou.
tough play between holliday and furcal.
tom, I have some really deep-seated issues when it comes to Selig and everything he represents. Others here may remember that I actually stopped watching baseball when he refused to reverse the call on Galarraga’s perfect game. I find him to be without a backbone and devoid of honor and integrity. I think he has done so much to hurt the game of baseball. He’s a coward and conveniently turns his back on burgeoning issues and in the process continues to make a mockery of the game. His major interest is in bringing in revenue for MLB. His presence in the role of commissioner sickens me to the core of my being.
That said, I will gladly relinquish this soapbox and turn back to the game at hand.
damn
Costly error
“Tricia….Cold night, maybe some Remy Martin Cognac ???”
I am a true teetotaler. But I do have some really nice cider that I could heat up. It continues to snow here, though tomorrow promises to be 50.
you know, outside of that one game, pujols has not looked so hot.
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Joe-
Pujols has too much on his plate while at bat. Has to relay signals to runners and concentrate on his hitting!!
Nice play by Holliday! If the Cardinals resign Pujols to a massive contract, after picking up Wainwright’s option, might they be willing to trade Holliday and play Craig full time?
trisha,
OK, but this is still a pretty good game, this one in particular and the game in general. You can rant all you want, but the rain in Detroit will not haunt my winter. As the Dodgers in Brooklyn used to say, wait til next year.
Oh my God.
The Cards are overanxious. Too bad the 2004* Sux aren’t there to give them shots of Jack Daniels between innings to calm their nerves!
Doc Joe…..You’re right, extract his Ruthian exploits he’s been not so good…..
yankee trader – would i have a deal for them!
holliday-granderson-kemp
I should have said, not a good game, but a fun one to watch with no dog in the fight.
“OK, but this is still a pretty good game, this one in particular and the game in general. You can rant all you want, but the rain in Detroit will not haunt my winter.”
Never said it wasn’t a pretty good game. But as I am someone who would go to the wall for a principle, the rain in Detroit and Gerry Davis will stay with me and gnaw away at me.
I quit a job a few years ago because I didn’t like some of the things that were happening that made it impossible for me to do my job effectively. I have very high standards for myself and for life in general, and I have a hard time turning my head to laissez-faire standards. I can’t enjoy the game when the umpires are deciding who wins and who loses.
These are things that shouldn’t be but are allowed to go on.
Wish I could be more casual about these things, but I cannot.
On the other hand, when the Yankees lose fair and square, I don’t have great difficulty accepting it.
Can of corn for Texeria
tom I agree this has been fun to watch with no dog in it. They’ve made the games at least interesting and also intriguing. You never know what will happen next!
Joe-
Matt Holiday and Matt Kemp flanking Granderson. Works for me!!
Maybe Boras was talking to Cashman about his client Holliday?
Wow good call.
I like the infrared look! Just in time for Halloween!
trisha, Do you want Torre, in stead?
The Cards MUST take advantage of this inning.
pat m., you read my mind. i was thinking of tex, and saying to myself that that’s the difference between a first baseman, and a guy playing first.
tom, as much as I detest Torre, I believe he would have more integrity for the game than Bud does.
My fear is that he would stick it to the Yankees every chance he got.
nice takeout by holliday
Yadier is such a good player.
Please get the run in Yadier!!!
great hard slide by holliday. he would have been ideal in pinstripes, but not at his contract.
They can’t let Lewis off the hook here…
torre is 70 years old. to me, that makes it less likely that he will succeed bud.
my guess is the owners go the roger goodell route.
Does the commissioner have a finite term? Who hires him?
Yes yes yes yes yes!!!
Can I please see Nolan Ryan now, FOX cameras?
trish, the owners hire him, and he gets a contract for a finite number of years. of course, that contract can be renewed, or not.
and, as a contract, doesn’t necessarily mean anything. you know lawyers.
trisha – true pinstriped blue October 27th, 2011 at 9:35 pm
Yes yes yes yes yes!!!
Can I please see Nolan Ryan now, FOX cameras?
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Selig was on a 15 year contract and hired by the owners.
“and, as a contract, doesn’t necessarily mean anything. you know lawyers.”
what a sleezy bunch they are!
Oh lock, I’m so glad you’re here!
15 years? What the hell is up with that?????
I guess I have to google to see how many years he has left on his contract.
Hey, he’s done in two years!
Have to go to bed, but I’ll listen to the game on the computer. No ESPN radio within range. The Cards announcers are very good, and the plays are called about 6 seconds before the TV.
Oh my God in heaven.
does everyone have the dropseys?
trisha,
*waves*
These errors are ugly. Don’t think the cards have had a 1-2-3 inning yet.
Joe from Long Island October 27th, 2011 at 9:36 pm
trish, the owners hire him, and he gets a contract for a finite number of years. of course, that contract can be renewed, or not.
and, as a contract, doesn’t necessarily mean anything. you know lawyers.
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I had a chance to go to Game 7 if it’s played. Had to turn it down. My sister scored 2 ducats, 3rd row dead center behind the Rangers dugout. She’s taking my Ma to her first WS game. She’s friends with the owners of the Alton Belle…a riverboat casino on the Mississippi.
The Rangers have not won these games as much as the Cards have lost them – if you know what I mean.
This is really so sad.
good night, tom
It’s automatic now. Some one gets on base & the next guy drives him in.
St. Louis doesn’t deserve this WS AND none of the breaks are going their way. Not sure how they can push this thing to a game 7 unless Texas figures out a way to implode worse they them.
Feel bad for the Cards with all of those errors.
They should have had the last game too.
gb – tough that you had to turn down ws tix. i got to go to game 1 in 09, cc vs. lee. even though they lost, it was a great experience.
Joe,
Seeya.
If Lewis is still in, the Cards should be able to get something done. They need to keep it together and just play good ball.
GB-
Did you get to any WS games in Atlanta when they played the Yankees?
That was a smart move. Pitch to the pitcher.
i think that’s a mistake by washington. i hit for lewis there.
Joe,
I went to a few over the years. My grandfather took me to one in ’59 in Chicago, got a free ticket to the WS in St. Louis in ’68 sitting in the first row bear the foul pole in right. Up close and personal with Maris and Kaline. Got a ticket to the ’06 series in Atlanta, Game 5. Always giid to be in uniform.
Absolutely agree Joe. Hope it comes back to bite him.
Sweet.
He had Derek Holland warmed up. Absolutely stupid move.
***good***
Time for the cards to put up a crooked number.
Damned….love me some Ray Charles
Sing it out children!
If the Cards don’t pull this out they still have to feel really good about themselves . Heck they weren’t even supposed to be in the postseason. (I’m sure their immediate feeling won’t be one of pride, but hopefully they will be able to take something good out of the experience.)
Yeah, the cards did great just to get to this point.
almost had a 1-2-3 inning.
So Lock, the question is this: can the Cards scrape out one more run in the next 4 innings? One would hope so.
Go Cards
Hey he was out twice.
trisha,
Pujols really needs to step up. But I think they could get some more runs. They just need to stop with the errors. If not for the errors, they would be leading.
Lock -
You’re right.
Colby Lewis….greatest pitcher ever from Japan?
Great job by Berkman.
I think Nomo in his prime would have given him competition.
But he did do a good job with Alice in Wonderland.
Holliday can’t get to anything inside with his hand injury…..inside is always his weak spot but now they are just pounding him in there.
young having an awful game at first.
not so easy to play there.
Wow M. Young………that’s bad news bears level stuff
Another can of corn for Texeria…..
That’s a can of corn for most 1B….Sunday hop….just his inexperience playing over there cost him as he looked like he forgot where he wanted to go with the ball.
I think postseason nerves are probably like none other. Players can have butterfingers where they ordinarily wouldn’t.
This has turned out to be an odd World Series. Really driven by mistakes.
Lewis isn’t a great pitcher but he’s shown a lot these last 2 postseasons….he’s tough….he makes pitches. That was an incredible find by the Rangers….great middle of the rotation type guy on a winning team.
Cedarstrom is doing a very nice job behind the plate, IMO.
Fiber optic snafu for my Fox station. Following via gameday. Washington putting a lot of faith in Lewis with Holland available.
Statistically these are 2 of the worst fielding teams in baseball….Texas has a lot of rangy players but they make a lot of physical and mental mistakes defensively and that stuff costs you in big games.
McCarver giving Napoli props for how he frames pitches.
Now we’ve seen everything.
Interesting how hitting can change perceptions about a player’s defense.
Molina needs to make Ogando throw strikes.
Good.
May the Cards do something good out of this. All they need is a ball hit to the outfield. They need to get to Ogando right away.
This is it right here… Go Cards!
The joke is that Napoli framed that out of the zone, on top of it!
trisha,
I thought you were rooting for Ogando
Sounds like the slotting system isn’t likely to change with the new CBA…..don’t like the sound of an international signing cap though.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/
gotta take one here
Lock, I love Ogando but I have to root for him to give it up.
Took them about 15 minutes, but Fox finally put up video…of a computer screen. Ghetto, but it works.
Ogando takes a while to settle in, especially in the middle of an inning, so they need to get to him now.
if molina swings here……i don’t know what to say
Ogando is all over the place about half the time
Who does Ogando remind me of? Throws hard, but not very accurate. Was it Bruney?
“Ogando is all over the place about half the time”
Until he isn’t.
That’s why they need to make hay quickly because once he settles in, he’s very effective.
Cards wanted to give this gave to Texas, and the Rangers don’t want it…..
Nolan Ryan looks like he’s thinking about taking a dump
wow
Wow.
wow
Beltre’s foot makes it closer than it really was.
That’s a big turn of events….
Mike Napoli starring as Johnny Bench…
Really remarkable about how many mistakes are being made in this series.
What a nightmare for holliday.
When Ogando is on his game, he’s unhittable. His stuff is beyond filthy. But Ogando was overused and so it takes him a hitter or two now to get his stuff together. He still has it though.
Nopoli is supposed to not be a good catcher, but in two games he’s made great throws to get out base runners. Suddenly he’s pudge… Rangers did a great job getting him.
He’s safe if Beltre doesn’t block the bag…..
But it looks like Alexi doesn’t have it at all tonight!
doesn’t anybody want to win this game?
“Who does Ogando remind me of? Throws hard, but not very accurate. Was it Bruney?”
Ogando throws similar to Kevin Gregg – though much harder.
Similar extreme short arm action. Makes his control inconsistent.
Kevin Whelan in the Yanks minor league system throws similarly
I’m getting a jerkface headache !!!!!
“Nolan Ryan looks like he’s thinking about taking a dump
”
Man that play was huge at 3rd…..just terrible
Signing cap on international players would be bad news for the yankees.
That’s another rule designed to inhibit the pinstripes.
Having watched Ogando all season I can tell you his stuff is phenomenal. Filthy. And unhittable.
But Washington overused him. He had a ton more innings than he did last season out of the bullpen. And at some point it caught up with him and they had to shut him down.
Tired arm is a reality.
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I predict Holland will give it up…
All around for both teams, this is the ugliest WS game in years.
this is where having a david robertson is such a great weapon for the yankees. texas does not have an equivalently talented reliever, someone who’s used to coming in with men on base. holland a bit of a disadavantage because of that.
“Signing cap on international players would be bad news for the yankees.”
if the cap is 2-2.5 million then that will really stink and take away a big advantage they have….ugh
Next inning.
Now the Cards have do something they haven’t done all game. Don’t make any errors and keep the lead runner off base!
This is when you bring in your starters unless you have an impeccable pen.
holliday’s bad play just turned around the inning there.
a poorly played game all the way around.
ifas not represented by any block, so they are at risk. pa needs to step up and realize that caps of any sort are a bad precedent to set.
I thought they would score at least another run there. Oh well….
A 1-2-3 inning would be nice here. What are the odds
m October 27th, 2011 at 10:29 pm
Who does Ogando remind me of? Throws hard, but not very accurate. Was it Bruney?
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A younger version of Edwin Jackson
Lock – where there’s life, there’s hope…
Going over slot in the draft really isn’t a big deal anymore. Small market teams finally caught on to how misguided it was to skimp on that.
Interestingly, since that happened, the Red Sox player development has really taken a step back.
The international market is really where the yankees have done their damage. Would be unfortunate.
I
GIVE
UP
The cards have been climbing uphill all game.
Yo, Adrian!
Blame it on the bullpen phone again, Tony.
Great opposite field power. Beltre is so talented.
i’ve not heard of this lynn guy before the playoffs. i have to say, i’m not terribly impressed. neither of these teams strike me as having particularly good bullpens.
Sis, I’m sure you realize you are in the vast minority here?
Not a lot of levity about the Rangers winning.
Game over.
“Going over slot in the draft really isn’t a big deal anymore. Small market teams finally caught on to how misguided it was to skimp on that.”
yea I agree….most teams seem to operate similarly on that these days.
Wonder if Boston would like to have Beltre back?
Weren’t any of the cardinal starters available out of the pen today?
Lynne isn’t good. Why is he pitching in the biggest game of the season?
Kinda feels like Texas is going to do it….the Cards just aren’t as good as they are
This series really isn’t a good one. The Little League puts on a better show than these teams are.
This is not the best baseball, nor the best teams playing for the championship. I just can’t watch this slop.
“Lynne isn’t good. Why is he pitching in the biggest game of the season?”
Tony wanted Jackson but they thought he said Lynne
LaRussa should have brought in one of his starters, the way Washington did with Holland.
I agree this has been an ugly game. However the ugliness is immediately forgotten by the team that wins it.
I have to say for the Cards that they have really held down the Rangers compared to the offensive juggernaut everyone predicted they would be.
Texas winning the world series this year would really be a testament to baseball’s commitment to sharing revenue and supporting franchise value.
These aren’t the best teams playing, but that’s what MLB wants to see.
Get him out of there…..good grief Joe…I mean Tony
Dotel warming up. It’s a contest to see who can bring in the reliever with the worst arm action.
“Weren’t any of the cardinal starters available out of the pen today?
Lynne isn’t good. Why is he pitching in the biggest game of the season?”
I’m wondering the same thing. For all they say about LaRussa managing for now and not worrying about tomorrow, you can’t prove it with his pitching changes.
so, lynn gave up two dingers to un-tie it, and now a single, and now dotel gets up.
for a genius, who made his mark in bullpen management, la russa is stinking it out
Boston can get Belyte back. Only if they’re willing to give up Youkilis amd a young stud pitcher like Andrew Miller. They are loaded with talent. Haven’t you been reading the Boston reports from the Donut Choker?
did Seattle just ruin Beltre or what? I mean he was great his last year in LA….then stunk in seattle pretty much the whole time he was there….then was great again in Boston and now in Texas? Is it illegal to be able to hit in the state of Washington?
“Get him out of there…..good grief Joe…I mean ”
It’s almost like they get frozen in place. That’s what I like about Maddon. The guy seems almost unflappable.
Any of the AL playoff teams would beat The Cards……The only NL club that had a chance was Philly…..Texas is a very good ballclub…..
Sis, I’m sure you realize you are in the vast minority here?
Not a lot of levity about the Rangers winning.
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Well, it is only the 7th inning – and it’s been a rather crazy game. I just got home from work, so only “heard”, all the sloppiness on the radio. And there are those that downplay the importance of defense….
“Boston can get Belyte back. Only if they’re willing to give up Youkilis amd a young stud pitcher like Andrew Miller. They are loaded with talent. ”
yea some of the stuff Pete has been writing is pretty comical
Boston can get ***Beltre***
“Is it illegal to be able to hit in the state of Washington?”
Not if your name is Montero.
“Not if your name is Montero.”
Wouldn’t Jack Z like to find out
we definitely need a more balanced schedule.
this is what bud wants. parity. his ideal is for every team to have a shot at winning, and for the ws to be won by a different team every year. not for the best teams to play, or win. keep up team values and market share, not who is best.
what was that animated movie a few years back, the Incredibles? there was a line about everybody getting a trophy
– if everybody is great, then nobody is great. seems vaguely un-american to me.
but what do i know, i’m a dinosaur.
You know Pat M, I’m not so convinced anymore that Texas is a very good ballclub. I mean they’re a good club, don’t get me wrong, but they have feasted on the mistakes of the Cards rather than making their own music. If La Russa knew how to manage, the Cards would have had the last game as well as this one.
I truly believe the Yanks would have beaten the Rangers.
I’m with those posters who say this hasn’t been a very well-played WS.
“And there are those that downplay the importance of defense….”
Well you know at least two people who don’t!!!
These have been ugly games, truly.
Texas is very well ran….this isn’t a fluke. They are probably here to stay and may be the Yankees biggest rival to get to the WS for the next several years. They have money, they have good ownership now….good farm system, good GM, growing fanbase….etc.
tony’s going out with his best on the mound
Doesn’t LaRussa have a starting rotation? I guess he didn’t get the “all hands on deck” memo.
The extreme uncertainty in wild card based post season play is an inherent part of the business model of baseball.
This variability and uncertainty washes away differences in financial resources and talent.
It makes the the outcome much more sensitive to random chance.
Which gives less talented teams a shot.
It worked last year for the Giants.
And if they add another wild card team in a one game sudden death play in game – it’s only going to heighten this parity through random chance even more.
get Ayala up….darn I keep having flashbacks
blake, we’ll see how good texas is in the next two years, when they lose wilson, and possibly hamilton/cruz because to fa. being good for a couple of years is relatively easy – just look at the phils. last year or two they were considered the model organization. who would say thta now?
They have won back to back AL Pennants, first team to do so in 10 years……They’e not without chinks but they’re good though……Game 2 just killed the Cards
Texas didn’t have to work as hard as the Yankees had to work to win their division, and they won fewer games than the Yankees to boot.
As long as we have an unbalanced schedule, you can expect these weaker division leaders to have more energy to expend in the postseason.
The Yankees will always have their hands full playing in the AL East.
That’s not sour grapes, gang, that’s reality.
It is what it is.
The Yankees could have beaten the Rangers. I’m convinced of it.
All of that said, the Rangers have done a good job of rounding out their team.
“get Ayala up….darn I keep having flashbacks”
Lol. It’s interesting watching Tony give up the world series utilizing the “strategy” that he pioneered.
Ayala. Lynn. Dotel. Why not. They are the 7nth innings guys after all…
Joe,
the Phillies have been aging and they haven’t really been planning for that as it relates to the future….they seem to just be trying to win now. The Rangers on the other hand seem to me anyway to be attempting to build a longterm contender….just the way they develop players and stress their farm system. They do have some players they are going to have to pay to keep…..but they also have some financial latitude to make moves…..we shall see
Joe from LI – hear hear.
Pat M – move the Yankees to the AL Central or AL West and I guarantee you that they’ll have back to back to back to back pennants for years to come.
Even Girardi has said that the real test of the best teams in the game come only with the balanced schedule.
It’s worth hearing the depression in the voices of TimBuck2 to have the Rangers win…
“And if they add another wild card team in a one game sudden death play in game – it’s only going to heighten this parity through random chance even more.”
Yup. And often times, as is the case most years in the AL East, you have 2 superior teams. And 1 of those superior teams is going to have to play a 1-game playoff against a likely far weaker team.
In the coming years, a 96 win Yankees/Red Sox team might have to play a 1-game playoff against an 87 win Angels/Rays team.
Hey mick!
blake – as you said, we’ll see.
good morning!
Joe from LI, I vote for you!
I’d love to see one of those miracle comebacks but I don’t have high hopes.
The rangers are in a very good place right now & in a good division with little stress. When you have money, you can buy FAs and build a PS/Championship caliber team. The trick is to sustain that success for over a decade with those contracts aging as do the players.
“And if they add another wild card team in a one game sudden death play in game – it’s only going to heighten this parity through random chance even more.”
I think it depends….yes it adds two more teams in but I think they COULD make it so that the division winners have enough of an advantage that they are more likely to make it farther in the playoffs….therefore having the better teams advance more often. I hope that if they do it they are able to make it so the WC’s are at a real disadvantage…..they do that and I’m ok with it.
have to turn in, have to make early rounds tomorrow.
good night all. thanks for the company.
Lock – very good post.
Sweet dreams Joe.
You know the Yanks would have beaten both of these teams.
Buck just wants the series to be over so he doesn’t have to do baseball anymore…..he hearts the NFL
Although the media is eager for a new “dynasty” to compare to the Yankees, it’s unfair to suggest the Rangers aren’t legitimate if they don’t hang around for ten years. I don’t have much love for them, but no team will likely ever reach the Yankees level of accomplishments.
“And 1 of those superior teams is going to have to play a 1-game playoff against a likely far weaker team.
In the coming years, a 96 win Yankees/Red Sox team might have to play a 1-game playoff against an 87 win Angels/Rays team.”
This is exactly right. The whole notion of a one game play in is directly related to diminishing the presence of the AL east (and NL east to a lesser degree) in the post season even further. That’s directly the issue.
In a one game play in, at most, the better team will have a 60% chance of winning the game. 60% probability represents a major advantage in baseball. But that’s just not that much. Still a 40% chance of losing even if you are a far more dominant team.
And that’s not even taking into account how the rotations happen to line up.
That 4th team with one game play in opens up the opportunity for much worse teams winning the world series.
night Joe
Buck is a child.
“Burning up the room with cheap cologne.”
Funny commercial.
# mick October 27th, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Buck is a child.
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What did he say?
Buck is in love with Aikman.
RadioKev, as soon as the Rangers got them some pitching, I said they would definitely bear watching. But their stats are skewed because of the division they play in. So they look like titans – and they are. AL West titans. Put them in the AL East and I bet they don’t even make it to third place.
I CURSE YOU, UNBALANCED SCHEDULE!
And I don’t want to hear their stats against the AL East (seriously don’t know what they are anyway) because if you don’t have to knock yourselves out in your own division, you have a lot more bullets to shoot throughout the season – and in the postseason.
That’s reality.
TLR really outsmarted himself early on by taking out Garcia. Sure he let half the guys he faced get on base, but it was tied. Of course, the next pitcher gave up the lead.
Anyway, the defense is the name of the series.
That might have been Pujol’ last at-bat. We should hope! I know people like the narrative that he should stay because he is St. Louis, but I’d love to see him go to a club where he had to actually had to be one of the guys.
Jon Daniels has done an incredible job in texas with talent evaluation. That’s really the fundamentals of what they’ve done there.
Daniels gets remarkably little credit because of Nolan Ryan’s shadow. But he’s done a remarkable job in texas.
He’s right up there with Andrew Friedman.
What did he say?
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The way he says it sulkingly.
I think the extra WC’s are coming….maybe even next year so if they are going to do it then I just hope they are able to make it so that the best teams have an advantage. The current system offers virutally no advantage at all to the best teams. They need to do away with not playing someone from your division in the first round also…..
Rigt now W. is texting Nolan with congrats…maybe St Lou can pull a miracle.
I think the extra WC’s are coming….maybe even next year so if they are going to do it then I just hope they are able to make it so that the best teams have an advantage. The current system offers virutally no advantage at all to the best teams. They need to do away with not playing someone from your division in the first round also…..
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Can we Occupy the MLB offices?
“Daniels gets remarkably little credit because of Nolan Ryan’s shadow. But he’s done a remarkable job in texas.”
agree
Boreass was kidding?
Tell you what Texas had that other teams did not. Rudy Jaramillo. To me he was the equivalent of Leo Mazzone.
So you have a number of players who had the Jaramillo influence. That will fade.
I predict that the Rangers will lost their juggernaut status in the not-too-distant future.
“.maybe even next year so if they are going to do it then I just hope they are able to make it so that the best teams have an advantage. ”
We’ll have to see how it’s implemented. But I just don’t see this as something that’s going to be designed to help the better teams.
Nearly everything Selig has done has been in the opposite direction.
I think this is just going to increase the pool for lesser teams to get on a hot streak and win the series like the giants did last season.
“Can we Occupy the MLB offices?”
My dream occupation…
CB,
I hope not but as you say…this is Bud we’re talking about. I want everyone to have a shot if they deserve it…..I just want the teams that perform the best in the regular season to be rewarded for it and they aren’t currently.
not over just yet.
Holland has such ugly arm action.
There’s only 1 page in the Commissioner’s Manual:
Will this decision help the Yankees?
If yes, vote ‘No’.
If no, vote ‘Yes’.
Is there possibly a crack in the dike?
“Holland has such ugly arm action.”
matches his mustache
Yadier will be a FA after next season also
CB…..I think that play in WC round should be a best of 3 series, no days off and then move right into the ALDS…..I’m not a fan of this extra tier at all, in fact I’m still against the best of 5 format for the ALDS……But the owners are going to get IT………Washington needs to get Adams in the game….
Washington should not play around here.
Just bring in Feliz and finish this.
The notion that Feliz can get 4 outs but not 5 is ridiculous.
Texas beat the Rays, Tigers, and Cards to win it all this year.
Not exactly going through 3 major powerhouses. Two teams that had no business in the playoffs minus a huge collapse by the Sux and Braves. And a Tiger team who we all know was not better than the Yankees.
Sure the Rangers are a pretty good team, but let’s not all go Dennis Green here and Crown there a**es for the next 5 years here.
If ever there was a chance for a miracle it’s now…a pinchhit 2 run HR to tie the game by the nondescript Gerald Laird, brother of our Laird.
W and Nolan would sh*t…
Unless you balance the leagues I think the extra team with 1-day WC is just aweful.
Example let’s say:
Red sox 98 wins
Yankees 97 wins
Detroit 95 wins
Rangers 94 wins
Rays 87 wins
Who plays for 1-day, having to play their ace & losing their ace for a few games if they make it to the next round? huh? The yankees & Rays? And how is this fair?
Because I could see a scenario like this happening often.
Feliz is due for an implosion.
Pat M – you do know that Nolan Ryan trashed the Yankees last year when the Rangers went to the WS and that Ian Kinsler said the Yankees were nothing and he didn’t fear playing them.
I see that as two reasons to be rooting for the Cards.
Unless you balance the leagues I think the extra team with 1-day WC is just aweful.
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Aweful as in full of awe?
its funny how things work itself out.
1) Rangers got bailed out by mlb.
2) Out duped the yankees by snagging lee and went to the world series.
3) Lose Lee to FA and end up in the ws…AGAIN??
Cant make this stuff up…..UNREAL!!!!
TimBuck acting up…
Unknown@11:24.
Absolutely agree.
Too bad John Jay has been atrocious all series.
Pat M.,
All short series favor the worse team. It’s the great equalizer.
That’s what bud wants.
I’d have to look back at this but I’ll guess the gap between the 4th and 5th best teams is significantly larger than the gap between the 3rd and 4th best teams.
That one game play is is going to systematically allow worse teams to make a run at the championship.
“Too bad John Jay has been atrocious all series.”
All it takes is once!
“Who plays for 1-day, having to play their ace & losing their ace for a few games if they make it to the next round? huh? The yankees & Rays? And how is this fair?
Because I could see a scenario like this happening often.”
Since baseball will never implement a salary cap, they want to make it as tough for the big market teams to win the WS as they can.
How do you not pinch run for Molina???
This absurdity of Tony La Russa bull pen management is now putting at risk the Rangers probability of winning this series.
Why is Feliz not in this game.
He can get 4 outs per washington.
But not 5.
Just amazing. What “logic.”
wow, frucal pulls a russel martin and swings at the first pitch?
Way to be jumpy, Furcal.
Do you guys have a dash-board at the top of your screen?
Bases loaded. First pitch swinging.
Hard to believe.
This has been such bad baseball.
The Cards shouldn’t have even been in the postseason. But here they are and we all know that but for some reallty shoddy managing, the Cards could have taken these games and maybe even won the World Series.
Don’t get so carried away with stars in your eyes for the Rangers. They have been the beneficiaries of many gifts from St. Louis.
Tricia……I’m not a fan of the Rangers at all……I made a comment about 6 weeks ago saying that they are a very dangerous club….As for the World Series, I’m on them to make some money……
mel, yes to the dashboard.
Pat M – they’ve been a very lucky team.
Does a faster runner score on the Jay single??
And I will be happy for you to make money if they pull this out. Otherwise, not at all.
Has Napoli’s hitting taken a huge jump up since joining the Rangers?
Did Chad mention the dashboard?
The Yankees will always have their hands full playing in the AL East.
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ECS ~
for the last couple years, for sure. But, the ALE isn’t that far removed from at least two of three of the Rays, Jays and O’s posting pretty consistent sub, sub .500 records. And, as the article you posted awhile back noted, there were several years there where the ALW was pretty strong.
As for how the Yanks would fair in another division…
maybe, as you say, they would win back-to-back pennants. Or, maybe, the other teams would raise their play to the level of their competition
Darn – have to pick up my son …
Been awhile since the ALW had the last team standing in October.
Hope it happens tonight.
No idea. I’m not real good about reading all the lead-ins.
Tricia…..They have basically taken everything the Cards ahve given them….This series was determined in the 9th inning of Game 2…..Bottom line
“Does a faster runner score on the Jay single??”
That’s a real good question.
Very possible. Ball wasn’t deep but it wasn’t stung either.
Probably not – but he still should have pinch run.
Sis – good points all.
Pujols due to bat 3rd!
If the Cards lose here they will be thinking about this World Series for a long, long time.
They had games 2 and 5 in the bag.
Pat M – yeah, the Cards had it in their hands at that point. You’re right.
Well here’s the good news. LaRussa will manage the ASG for the NL this year. Maybe the AL will get HFA back.
Does that graphic mean the Astros & Rangers are both 50 years old?
How great would it be if the Cards pulled a 2001 YS happening and Feliz played the role of BH Kim?
what a great hitter!!!!
Selig is ruining baseball, and he might just end up killing it. If he gets his way, baseball will be a joke. That will kill it.
I am nearing a point where I don’t even care about it any more. Two teams that shouldn’t be in the WS and yet here they are.
It may be time to start voting with my dollars, not bothering to go to games, not bothering to watch through the long season only to have lesser teams playing for the championship. Why bother even playing the regular season? Why bother building up a franchise and support base when MLB will look to rip it apart with stupidity.
I’ve been a baseball fan for a long time, yet I find only disgust at what has been going on with baseball under Selig. It isn’t a championship they are playing now. It is a contest of which team sucks least in the final games of the season. Why bother with a season as long as baseball is only to have two inferior teams playing bush league level games to determine the champion for the season?
Uggg.
That swing is perfect. Just out of this world how great he is at the plate.
He’s like Joe D – only stronger.
Tough pitch but Albert handled it really easy….
Yogi – I echo every sentiment in your post about Selig, including losing interest in the game that he has singlehandedly ruined.
It’s almost as if they pitched around Berkman
i know this is not even remotely likely, but just the thought of pujols in pinstripes…..
this is permanent damage territory for feliz
Feliz is not staying on top of the ball.
wow.
a ball past the backstop so the runners can move up and keep out of a DP
over the heart of the plate…
Craig was sitting fastball the whole at bat.
Horrible slider. But it froze him.
Funny how the cameras always manage to pan in on attractive females. Nothing sexist about that. I mean seeing those females is very meaningful to the game at hand, isn’t it?
WOW!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
The BIG CHILL
OH
MY
GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW… YES!!!! Tied.
Just one more hit… please!!!!
WOW!!!!!!!!
W0W
That was almost as great as Andino against Papelbon in Baltimore
Woo hooo!!
Wow and it’s Heartbreak Hotel in Arlington.
baseball is simply an amazing game. anything can happen at any time
Lock – Ryan’s face. PRICELESS!!!!
I thought the game was over off the bat
Atrocious defense this game. Atrocious.
What was Cruz thinking out there…..
Was that Bobby Abreu out there
That should have been caught. What was cruz doing?
He actually slowed up on the ball as he tracked back.
How bad can the execution be in this series.
Yank 1 – I am laughing out loud. Thanks for that wonderful memory!!!!
ruh-roh
I thought for sure it would be over before I got back…
They should have put in Dickerson for defense….
Was that Bobby Abreu out there
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Great call. Definitely reminiscent of Abreu.
Wow!
Wild, wacky baseball where the unpredictable is now predictable…
Freese atones in a big way for his errors.
“baseball is simply an amazing game. anything can happen at any time”
Aren’t we just so bonded in love for this awesome game?????!!!!!
On the other hand, I read that Cruz is releasing a children’s record on itunes. #swisher
# Pat M. October 27th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
What was Cruz thinking out there…..
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Not about your bet Pat M.
Holy choke Rangers
trisha
Lock – Ryan’s face. PRICELESS!!!!
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Lock – Ryan’s face. PRICELESS!!!!
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He was sucking his thumb.
About now W. must be in the fetal position.
St. Louis needed to win this game right then. Had to make it happen. They still haven’t been able to get over the hump.
I still can’t believe how awful Cruz’s defense as there. He nonchalantly went back on the ball. Rather than getting to the proper spot immediately he just drifted back on the ball. I suppose he just misjudged it off the bat.
But for a player who runs well to not catch that ball is inexcusable.
Memories of Paulie running into the wall to preserve a WS win………..Cruz ain’t no O’Neill.
It’s kind of refreshing to see some offensive players come through when the pressure is on them. Hope some of the middle of the Yankees order is watching this and not laying on a beach counting checks.
As an aside, and because Yank 1 made me think of it, for anyone who is a real fan of the NY-Sux rivalry, if you haven’t seen this video, you definitely will want to. Come back later and grab the link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPNpJX8b-bc
# Yank1 October 27th, 2011 at 11:53 pm
W0W
That was almost as great as Andino against Papelbon in Baltimore
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Yeah not quite, but close… lol
“He was sucking his thumb.
About now W. must be in the fetal position.”
# mick October 27th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Feliz is due for an implosion.
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Amen, mick.
For anyone you still doesn’t place value on defense, this series and especially the 9th inning should make you reconsider your position……
Lets face it. Feliz has been flirting with that outcome all October now.
Wow, looks like Cruz should have caught that but slowed down short of the track.
ok, that makes a difference
Oh dear.
I don’t think you catch lightning in a bottle twice.
What the hell
Oh well, guess it was short lived.
well,…….
Damn. Every time the cards tie it, the rangers come right back & get the lead.
Holy choke Cardinals
WTF Motte
Feliz didn’t throw well but he hardly imploded. Cruz buffooned his way into giving away two runs.
The cards really needed to end this game in the 9nth. Had to. Can’t keep playing just well enough to tie or sort of hang around.
Game should have been over. That ridiculous dropped pop up and runner thrown out at third…
That’s the second win that Cruz has cost his team in the post season. Lucky for him Hamilton hits his first HR of the postseason.
Pat M – I am all about defense. That’s why I don’t get into a twist when Granderson (when he had a down period offensively) don’t hit. They more than make up for it in the field.
This aint happening twice…unless Feliz implodes again…wonder how he will be for 2 innings?
Cards have their garbage coming up…
Going into extra innings was always going to favor the Rangers because they have a much deeper line up with more power.
Look who the cards have up next inning. They’ve cycled through the only good part of their line up.
Rangers just have so much hitting.
Anything is possible.
The Cards bullpen has been pretty craptastic the last few days….still think the Yanks would have beaten the Rangers.
This is a joke championship. The least sucky team will win. Oh joy.
This isn’t the world series. This is a farce created by Selig.
Too bad we couldn’t have lent the Cards our pen.
The Rangers are clearly the better team.
But they haven’t played all that well in this series.
St. Louis should have won this series. Just too many mistakes by the Cards.
The Yankees would have beaten the rangers.
The Yankees just destroy left handed pitching.
And the Texas left handers just weren’t that great this post season.
Will CC live-tweet his opt-out countdown after the 3rd out?
“Ye missed it.”
“This is a joke championship. The least sucky team will win. Oh joy.
This isn’t the world series. This is a farce created by Selig.”
Yep.
“The Yankees would have beaten the rangers.
The Yankees just destroy left handed pitching.
And the Texas left handers just weren’t that great this post season.”
Absolutely correct.
La Russa with no one left on the bench to hit.
I’m loving this.
If Texas wins the World Series, they will have done it by the skin of their teeth and will not have huge bragging rights.
They just burned Jackson. Oi.
my goodness this game is crazy….its a good game despite who you want to win
Well one thing is for certain, the games have been exciting for the casual fan…..
The beauty of the game.
Am amazing thing if Lohse gets it done.
“Well one thing is for certain, the games have been exciting for the casual fan…..”
Lord yes.
Did they burn jackson or was he just in the circle?
Why is oliver throwing sliders, especially with the wheel play on.
Almost got a hit…
Does Washindton load the bags and hope for 2
Beltre could have had a double play there.
Gotta get Pujols to the plate.
Unfortunately, andrus makes a good defensive play
Bunt again, TLR, they’ll never see it coming.
Theroit will hit a sac fly
Pujols will hit the walkoff HR
I think the Yanks coulda beat the Rangers, only because we kill against lefty pitchers…not sure if we could have beaten anyone else though.
Washington deserves to lose this game. Oliver over Feldman? For that many batters?
LockDown October 28th, 2011 at 12:14 am
Unfortunately, andrus makes a good defensive play
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I’ve been really impressed with Andrus’ defensive play this WS, I don’t remember him being that good normally.
I understand you don’t put the winning run on but it’s going to come down to Albert one way or another
Despite the ugliness of this game, this has been one of the most exciting postseason games I remember watching.
This is what baseball is all about. There’s been something for everyone in this game
Marc_Normandin
The Rangers’ organization is only nine years older than Darren Oliver.
syc, I think we would have killed the Cards.
I meant syd.
It was good to see Andrus and Kinsler make such a terrific play. Really wonderful defense by both on that broken wheel play. Nice to see strong play rather than a mistake shape the series.
Theriot needs to get on base.
Wash is going to walk Pujols.
St. Louis hitters really don’t control the strike zone very well.
WE would have killed either of these teams.
What better scenario than Pujols up with two out (if it comes to that – hope Theriot gets on)
I’d bring in CJ Wilson here. See if he can crank it up to 95-96 against Pujols.
Fat Elvis is going to get a chance to win it.
Comes down to Big Puma
whoever wins this game wins the world series…:)
This was really a matter of pick your poison – though they could also walk Berkman if they really wanted to be safe!
Straw…..Long flyball to the track…
I’d walk Berkman and load them up for Holliday
Holliday is out of the game…
Seriously, anything is possible.
Yayyyyyy!!!! Berky is God!
Wow….
Lance
wow unbelievable
What a great game……
Just amazing. Completes a phenomenal turn around season for berkman.
The game that would not end.
BX,
Holliday is out. jammed his finger when he got picked off.
wow.
Folks in St Louie getting their money’s worth tonight!
Puma!!!!
They need a base hit here to WIN the game. They can’t keep tying & letting the rangers grab the lead. The game is NOW!!!
Go Cards!!!
Amazing. Berkman is a great hittef.
Ya gotta love this game. Ya just gotta love it!!!
Can the Cards finally get over the hump here?
How damaging was Holliday getting thrown out and on top of that getting hurt.
If Sir Lance was still on our team, he would be warming the bench while Swisher strike out. #TrueStory
Ugh.
how can you not love these Cards?
I would’ve suicide squeezed there……
Once again the Cardinals can’t get over the hump.
Craig rolls over on a pitchers pitch.
Listen – they HAVE to have a 1-2-3 inning against Texas here and then someone has to step up in the bottom of the 11th and win this baby.
Good news: Tied Game
Bad News: Tied Game
@Joba_62: BIG PUMA!!!!!!!
All the writers need to just chill on writing their stories for this one. We got a wild one on our hands tonight.
Each team has 4 pitchers left. Rangers have 3 position players (German/Treanor/Torrealba) and St. Louis has none.
Rangers need to score here then bring in someone like Wilson or Harrison to close it out.
The only threats in STL’s lineup just passed. If the Rangers score here, they are in pretty good shape assuming Washington doesn’t let his lesser pitchers appear again.
Seriously, anything is possible.
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true.
berkman was taking bp on that ab…feldman just found out how hard it is to close.
Lock –
I say if Texas doesn’t score the Cards have a legitimate chance of doing it the right way and taking it in their half of the inning.
A 1-2-3 inning would be great!
Still have the same situation as before.
The Cards have cycled through their quality hitters and have the marginal guys coming up.
Texas has the deeper line up.
Ledger_Yankees Marc Carig
If I were working tonight, my word file would look something like this: “ST. LOUIS — Holy God where do I begin?”
Now LaRussa brings in a starter. Crazy. He’s lucky he has the inning for Westbrook to pitch!
Why did TLR burn Edwin last inning.
Crazy thing is if the Cards win these two team have to play again tomorrow night. Everyone is going to be on the fumes.
That was a pretty improbable comeback, but no more improbable than the notion of J-Lo driving around the old neighborhood alone in a Fiat 500.
Those who discount Mariano Rivera’s worth in the postseason, need to watch this game.
ugh… what does it take to have a 1-2-3 inning.
DP Please
Has this been the best worst game or the worst best game?
Cards hitters have come through and not just the heavy hitters. The only one I worry about is Furcal. But you never know. Anyone can step up and be the hero, as we’ve seen.
Nobody was giving the Cards a chance in the bottom of the 10th either.
What a dominant game from Napoli.
On base 5 out of 5 times with two hits. And he picks off a runner at third from his knees.
Still have the same situation as before.
The Cards have cycled through their quality hitters and have the marginal guys coming up.
Texas has the deeper line up.
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Yep. Wash-Rinse-Repeat.
STL needs to win it in their last AB or they are putting themselves at a disadvantage every time they go to the top of an inning.
@Nick in SF -
LOL!! So true!!!
pat -
The best of the worst?
This is going to go down as one of the greatest games in W.S. history, which is unfortunate because of how poorly it has been played.
It has been competitive for sure though.
Can’t let the pitcher hit here. Outs are too precious.
Washington is clueless here. He has been too busy acting like a crazy cheerleader instead of managing the game. dummy.
Esteban German? Really?
I always feel good with the ball in the hands of a starter in an important postseason game.
Don’t like this move at all.
Estaban German over Torrealba?
Not to mention, burning Feldman.
Cards have a weak part of their lineup – try and get through it with Feldman and then you have the top of the order in the 11th.
It was the worst of games, it was the best of games.
Texas needs a clean inning here.
Why does Wash think German is a legit pinch hitter?
That’s the real meaning of all hands on deck. LaRussa accidentally managed that one well!
don’t want the season to end yet…one more please….Game 7
CB October 27th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
That swing is perfect. Just out of this world how great he is at the plate.
He’s like Joe D – only stronger.
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Joe DeMaestri
Wasn’t Washington the one who managed the last ASG for the AL?
Need I say more?
altho not well played this is a Great Series.
Joe DeMaestri
http://www.baseball-reference......jo01.shtml
Joe Buck actually sounds semi-excited tonight.
He is a football guy now. This is excess baggage for him.
German has no busy on the Rangers roster. He is completely useless.
If this goes down as one of the best games of WS history, it shows how pathetic Selig has made baseball.
I don’t care about extra innings for two teams playing poorly. That isn’t championship material. It shows only what a joke the post season has become under Selig.
Neither team will be winning a true championship. This outcome will be the team that sucked least. Wow. Great job Selig.
We’ve seen little league games played better than this. This is a disgrace to the game and the history of baseball.
Stop cracking on German.
I can’t think of one Game 6 in the history of the W.S. where the team who choked away the win came back the next night in Game 7 to win.
Can any of you?
Does not bode well for the Rangers if they lose tonight.
1. David Freese is NOT a marginal player for the Cards!
Nothing like capturing tense moments in an elimination WS game than showing us the most attractive females in the crowd.
If this were Anaheim, it would be one thing….
Nor is Molina. So don’t know what you’re talking about when you complain about this part of the Card’s lineup!
“Joe DeMaestri”
No. Mechanically Pujols hits quite a bit like DiMaggio did.
The Curious Case of Esteban German
CJW trying to recoup those millions that he has been losing all October, with a relief appearance tonight.
“Nothing like capturing tense moments in an elimination WS game than showing us the most attractive females in the crowd.”
I mentioned the same thing earlier. It really does add such dimension doesn’t it?
YES!!!!!!!!
Washington really didn’t have great options on pinch hitting.
Could have sent Torrealba up there. But he’s not really that great option either.
CARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Freese at last!!!!!!!!!!
I’m crying.
So much for a marginal player!!!!!
Wow..
We will see you tomorrow night!!
Mark Lowell?
Where the hell was CJ Wilson? Matt Harrison?
The deep Freeese!!!!!!
Wow…..
Perfectly, beautifly ugly game
Ole stone face looks pissed.
Poor guy. Shouldn’t have even come down to Lowe. How stupid is Nelson Cruz in the outfield. Yes, he can hit, but I would HATE him in my outfield.
Lock –
trisha,
Didn’t nolan predict a Rangers win in 6 games.
Didn’t I tell you the Cards would do it in the bottom of the inning?
Yes I did!
That was simply one of the most amazing games I have ever seen. What will tomorrow bring?
LOL @ Joe Buck scripting that final call and eagerly awaiting when he could pull it out
David Freese. To the deepest part of the park.
Great to see the game end on a positive play with St. Louis finally getting over that hump and winning the game rather than Texas losing it directly.
Nelson Cruz not catching that fly ball in the 9th is just inexcusable. Just awful baseball. In many ways worse than Holliday not coming up with that pop up – that was a comical miscommunication.
Cruz – really no excuse.
WOW . . . gotta hand it to the Cards, they just would not die . . . still alive! Love the expression on Nolan Ryan’s face right now
Don’t know how this will end, but it’s great theater and fun baseball.
Way to come back, Cards.
oh well.
At least we’ve got one more game to watch.
Just hope I can get home earlier tomorrow so I can see most of it (I hate all these 5pm starts!)
And let this be a lesson to you “elitists” in the crowd who look down your noses on anyone but the top 4 in the lineup!
They’re playing tonight because they know how to do more than type on a keyboard!!!
I love that Jake Westbrook was the winner.
LaRussa so lucked into that win.
You think he learned something?
Rangers gave up 5 leads.
Ogando, Feliz did not do their jobs.
And how stupid is Cruz in the outfield?
Lynn is off the hook.
Historic.
Think 86 Mets-Game 6…25 years ago.
Carpenter-Harrison tomorrow.
This was Game 7.
Can’t get enough…
The worse error was Freese’s drop pop up at 3B, but he made up for it
GreenBeret7 October 28th, 2011 at 12:40 am
Perfectly, beautifly ugly game
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Yeap.
Says a lot for this world series, and Bud Selig’s management of baseball. Or should that be BSball?
And you know, leave Nelson Cruz alone too.
Easy to sit and criticize players who make mistakes. He isn’t stupid and it isn’t ridiculous that he didn’t catch it.
I’m thinking that anyone playing in Game 6 of the Ws might be a little jittery in the bottom of the 9th!
I think there was a law passed in 1961 that a Joe DeMaestri basball card had to be in every pack of Topps. That’s how I knew who he was.
Berkman building a nice case for MVP…but they would give it to Albert because of that one game…of course who knows what will happen tomorrow.
Too much Jack Daniels for Nelson Cruz or not enough??
So Carp vs who for Game 7?
Carp vs Harrison
m….the real question is, why did Washington have Cruz in the game for the 9th with a 2 run lead ???? He has pulled him out for defense so many times before……
Nelson Cruz has been hitting the tar out of the ball. I don’t think anyone on the Rangers should be getting down on him for not getting to the ball.
LGY, since you’re a Johnny come Lately tonight, apparently you didn’t see all of the other errors in the game where you could ask the same asinine question you just asked about Cruz.
I don’t have a lot of tolerance for people who dump on players who make mistakes.
Berkman looks like he is going to go Bear Hunting on Saturday morning win or lose.
If Berkman doesn’t have a big game tomorrow but St. Louis wins, it’s possible that Napoli could win the MVP and be the 2nd MVP for a losing team.
I think I’ll make another comment about Nelson Cruz. Dude can hit, but I would not want him in my outfield. Not very fleet of foot. And a little too casual on that play in this game.
He’s cost Texas 2 games with his slow feet, slow wittedness.
I’m not judging him. That’s just who he is.
But, boy can he hit. I’ll give him that.
Is Carpenter going on regular rest?
Lowe must have been thinking, what am I doing out here.
Checkmate.
See y’all for the last game of a great season…(later on today)
trisha, Carp is going on short rest. 3 days
:Says a lot for this world series, and Bud Selig’s management of baseball. Or should that be BSball?:
Yep. A “classic” game between two mediocre teams.
If this were Yankees vs. Phillies…. A-Rod hitting a walkoff off Cliff Lee in relief… that is classic.
A bunch of mediocre teams hitting HRs off mediocre pitchers is not “classic”. Someone named David Freeze hitting a HR off Mark Lowel?
Parity, revenue-sharing, the WC, and the 5-game ALDS has ruined baseball. It’s no longer about the best players and teams playing in the biggest game.
With the 2nd WC, in a couple of years, we’re going to see an 85 win Cincinatti Reds team facing a 86 team Minnesota Twins team…. yeah GREAT drama, classics….!!!
“the real question is, why did Washington have Cruz in the game for the 9th with a 2 run lead ???? He has pulled him out for defense so many times before……”
Very good question. He’s an odd player. He actually runs well. But he makes these plays defensively that are just so strange at times. He seems to either read the ball wrong off the bat or lose concentration.
That just wasn’t a difficult play. He started to go back on the ball – and then actually slowed down as if he had a beat on it. And then it was just over his head.
Don’t know if the ball just short hopped the wall or hit the base of the wall. But there’s no way a ball that hits that low that isn’t stung on a line shouldn’t be caught there.
Just terrible baseball.
And it cost the Rangers dearly.
mel, how about Ogando? Ogando actually lost two games for the Rangers.
I feel bad for him too.
I just don’t like getting down on players. They are all out there trying their hardest. All of them. The best make mistakes. Life happens sometimes.
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This game was phenomenal despite its ugly aspects.
Boy the Cards may have just turned the momentum corner (I know some posters don’t believe in momentum.)
I’m happy for the Card fans. They definitely got their money’s worth.
CB…He misplayed a ball or 2 last ALCS vs. The Yanks…….95% of the MLB rightfielders make that play and I’m being generous with the 95
trisha,
MLB showing the highlights, ending with Nolan Ryan’s expression
One reason that Cruz was in the outfield was that Washington’s bwnch had nobody left except Treanor and Torreabla
Well two games cost the Cards dearly. So there you go.
Tomorrow is the rubber game of the match.
There’s something really great about watching amazing things happen in games when you really have no vested interest. I can appreciate those moments so much more than when the Yanks are in them, only because I’m too intense when it’s the Yanks.
Still snowing in Rhody. Someone told me we’re getting a noreaster on Saturday! Don’t know if they were kidding.
Night all!
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both are catchers
And somebody needs to have the dump button ready for TLR obviously, haha.
Swisher has his faults, but he would have run through the wall to catch that ball.
Lock – gonna turn it on right now! I know they’ll repeat it!!!
Hey we might not have to worry about the Rangers going crazy with bragging about winning the WS…
Still not as great a game as Game 7 2003 ALCS…
The beauty of baseball is that it’s imperfections can make for great games….I lost dough tonight, but what a great game, despite the 3 errors….
Oh yeah Hollywood Swish definitely has that ball. I actually don’t think he is too bad out there in Right.
That ball just has to be caught by Cruz. Nothing really more to say about it then that.
Little League coach to his players:
“OK, kids, before we play our first game, we’re going watch the hi-lites of the 2011 World Series.”
After the hi-lites are over
Coach: “Alright, settle down, now. Now that you’ve see major leaguers play, don’t ever let me see you trying to copy them.”
5 errors…….
Harold Reynolds on Cruz play- “That ball was a bullet. Cruz had no play on that.”
2011: “The World Series That Nobody Wanted”.
Pat M.
Was thinking about that. I don’t know the Rangers that well, but late in the game Wash was down to 3 position players. A middle IF and 2 catchers.
That means he burned his 4th OF by PH Murphy for Gentry in the 5th. He then took out their best bullpen option by using German for Feldman in the 11th. Looks like German went to LF and Murphy went to RF after that.
Reynolds definitely giving Cruz the benefit of the doubt. I think a better RF would have had it.
I think he just had a bad read on it. Not only did he pull up as CB said, he was off line.
It was a bullet though.
Luck is on the Cardinals’ side tomorrow, Holliday won’t be playing.
m….rule f thumb, you take a fast and direct route to where the ball should be and then make an adjustment…..Cruz just seemed to slowly drift back and made a panic leap that left him 2 feet for the wall at least……..It’s over and it all comes down to 27 outs tomorrow…..Well I’m counting on 27 outs
GB7,
I was just going to say that Holliday is not that bad. But didn’t he mess up against the Dodgers one year? A pretty bad error on a shoe string line drive?
Anyway, no matter what tomorrow will close the book on 2011. Can’t wait for this season to be over with.
Harold on MLB Network is screaming like crazy that the Rangers have not lost 2 games in a row ALL SEASON! All Season guys he says.
Then host dude says, Well not since Aug. 3rd Harold. lol
Harold man, he is one crazy dude.
To make George W unhappy would make me the happiest of men. Go Cards!
If I’m a Rangers fan, I’d be feeling pretty sick right now.
Texas had their OF aligned in no-doubles defense and yet Cards scored those runs in the 9th. That is rough. Cruz misjudged how well the ball was hit and then got scared of the wall. That’s a Bobby Abreu special.
Rangers were one measly strike away from winning the title, twice.
If they win tomorrow, Game 6 is forgotten, maybe a footnote. But if they lose, Game 6 is gonna haunt their asses.
I’ve read it all now. Pete, the guy who exposed the Sox, and the “not-a-girl” with the geri curl met at (what I presume to be is a) pub to talk about the collapse and the whole thing was stream lived for the Globe subscribers.
live-streamed. Not sure what stream lived is.
The Yanks should offer Sabathia this: NOTHING.
They should tell him without telling him that he has four more years remaining on his contract with them at $23M per year for $92M total and that is a better contract than Wilson, Buerhle, Oswalt, Jackson, or Darvish will receive. None of those pitchers will get more than 4 years and I seriously doubt any of them will get more than $16M per year. Even if one of them received as much as $18M per year, that’s still $5M per year less than Sabathia’s current salary. And whoever is paid a high amount is only being paid that because the free agent market for #3 or better starting pitchers is thin,. Wilson is a #3, Buerhle a #2, Oswalt a #2.5 (he could be a #2 or a #3), Jackson a #3.5 (he could be a #3 or a #4), Darvish a #X (if he’s as good as advertised, he’s at least a #3.)
If Sabathia opts out, the Yanks should give him by Christmas to accept a new 4 year $92M ($23M per year) contract and defy him to find a better contract offer elsewhere.
Cliche’ Alert!!
Duh Innings – Yes, by all means the Yankees should cut off their nose to spite their face.
I can’t believe I fell asleep last night……unbelievable.
Morning, seems like Texas is toast. The memories of last night won’t fade quickly and Carpenter the shutdown guy is coming.
I think you could make some excuse about blowing the lead in one situation, but Texas did it 3 or 4 times. I guess they were within one pitch of winning the series twice.
Kudo’s to Lance Berkman after the year he’s had. Guy really steped up in the regular and post season.
Duh Innings October 28th, 2011 at 6:49 am
The Yanks should offer Sabathia this: NOTHING.
They should tell him without telling him that he has four more years remaining on his contract with them at $23M per year for $92M total and that is a better contract than Wilson, Buerhle, Oswalt, Jackson, or Darvish will receive. None of those pitchers will get more than 4 years and I seriously doubt any of them will get more than $16M per year. Even if one of them received as much as $18M per year, that’s still $5M per year less than Sabathia’s current salary. And whoever is paid a high amount is only being paid that because the free agent market for #3 or better starting pitchers is thin,. Wilson is a #3, Buerhle a #2, Oswalt a #2.5 (he could be a #2 or a #3), Jackson a #3.5 (he could be a #3 or a #4), Darvish a #X (if he’s as good as advertised, he’s at least a #3.)
If Sabathia opts out, the Yanks should give him by Christmas to accept a new 4 year $92M ($23M per year) contract and defy him to find a better contract offer elsewhere.
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Respectfully, the Yankees should work out a deal with CC that has him pitching for our team next year. We need to add pitching, not lose the good pitching we have.
Nolan Ryan went from, “Ruthie ……. we’re gonna do some drinking in a little bit” TO “Ruthie, I hope you got some Advil in your purse ’cause I’m gonna need some.”
blake -
You needed to do what I did – fall asleep for the middle innings so your wide awake not only for the end of the game, but the post-game.
Really happy that the Cardinals won.
Gary – Within one STRIKE twice.
blake October 28th, 2011 at 7:17 am
I can’t believe I fell asleep last night……unbelievable.
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Blake ditto, I never thought they would come back especially against Feliz. It was for sure the never say never in action. Carpenter should seal the deal tonight. It could be a lousy winter for the Texas organization after that debacle.
Cream usually rises to the top. Look for Pujlos and Carpenter to have big efforts out there tonight. Got to respect the effort that Hamilton is putting out there, guy is really going out there and giving a gut check every game. Playing hurt he’s still doing better than most of our “stars” did.
Villa,
I wish….I was so tired that I fell asleep and woke up this morning then was like Holy crap look what I missed. You have to give the Cards credit…..sloppy game and they made 1 less mistake.
As it sets up the Cards have Carpenter on 3 days and Jackson on full rest……
Gary -
I felt like Hamilton was playing as if it was his last game of the season – no reason to hold anything back. I was surprised by his HR. I wonder if he’s got anything left in the tank for tonight? And I wonder if Napoli’s ankle will be barking today? And what is the bullpen going to be able to give either team?
It should at least be a very interesting game tonight.
blake -
It’s been the WS of whoever makes the least mistakes wins the game. Not exactly what most people are looking for in the WS, but still good entertainment!
Carpenter on 3 days with that balky elbow is no given……they should have Jackson backing him up though on full rest.
My guess is Washington starts Harrison but will have a quick hook and go to Wilson if he gets in trouble…..the Cards can hit either of those guys though
Gary -
I felt like Hamilton was playing as if it was his last game of the season – no reason to hold anything back. I was surprised by his HR.
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Villa I wasn’t, Josh always plays well in the offseason. Usually the guys that play well in the postseason do and those that don’t. It’s pretty basic. The Yanks keep expecting some reversal of their guys that never play well in the post season and it never happens, hence the year after year early exits.
Why does Pujols have such a big gut? Making all of that money and he can’t afford to eat clean?
blake,
I think Wilson pitched last night.
Nope, sorry, that was Lewis, not Wilson.
WHy do I always get them confused?
And Lewis started, right? So how did I confuse that?
I’m glad it’s over tonight. Having baseball on November 1st almost is baloney, the season is way too long.
Here’s a Yankee related question:
Where was Lance Berkman last year not getting these clutch hits for the Yankees? Against Texas, no less? Was it the “Paralysis of the Pinstripes?”
Yea Holland threw so he’s out for tonight….both Harrison ans Wilson have been very hittable in the playoffs. The pitching situation definitely favors the Cards…….but the way this series and really the whole postseason has gone you just never know.
Gary,
To be fair, players can change their fortunes in the off-season.
The only reason I was surprised by Hamilton’s HR was because of his injury, not because of his ability in general.
Cards are winning this one.
Down to your last strike with your lockdown closer throwing gas…and you lose.
Baseball gods have spoken.
Lance Berkman was one of the few players who showed up in last season’s playoffs for the Yankees. Him and Granderson. Perhaps in not such a big way, but when no one else shows up, it’s kind of hard to have the same impact.
“Where was Lance Berkman last year not getting these clutch hits for the Yankees? Against Texas, no less? Was it the “Paralysis of the Pinstripes?””
Well about 25 lbs of him might still be in the Bronx somewhere……Berkman didn’t have a horrible postseason last year by my memory…he got a couple of big hits. Obviously if the Yankees knew he was going to lose a ton of weight and get in great shape and have a comeback season then maybe they would have tried to bring him back…..but this spring everyone thought the Cards were nuts for putting him in the outfield …….man would he have helped them vs RHP though.
Villa Nova-Ya October 28th, 2011 at 7:46 am
Gary,
To be fair, players can change their fortunes in the off-season.
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Sure, but at some point you get enough data that says they won’t and you stop believing they can. Some of the Yanks have a pretty good database right now.
That was one weird game.
Epic fail by the Rangers.
Glad the Cards pulled it out. I did not expect it.
Matt Holliday should go and hide somewhere. Awful game. Awful WS for him.
Gary -
I’ll always have that hope. If a player is good, eventually it will show up.
blake -
Lance was never coming back to the Yankees. He did not want to DH, and he said his pretty much right after the season was over. The reason he got into shape is because he knew he’d never get any offers in the NL if he wasn’t in playing shape. To his credit, he did the work and has been great this season. But the only way he’s in the AL at all, or on the Yankees, is if he didn’t get an offer from an NL team.
“I was surprised by his HR.”
He wasn’t.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....als-102711
Villa Nova-Ya October 28th, 2011 at 8:03 am
Gary -
I’ll always have that hope. If a player is good, eventually it will show up.
blake -
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So did I, I kept saying Swisher isn’t really this bad is he. He’s overdue, no way is he going to strike out again in a big situation. Guess what…………………………..
Gary -
If you don’t keep the hope, whether it’s fulfilled or not, what have you got left?
(But I do understand about Swish – he’s had a lot of opportunities in big spots that went unanswered.)
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pat -
What can anyone say to that?
Gary says:
“I’m glad it’s over tonight. Having baseball on November 1st almost is baloney…”
Baseball is mortadella?
Momentum favors the Cards.
Makes you appreciate his Mo-ness all the more when you see a succession of
relievers fold up like wet paper towels.
Anyone still wanna argue that HFA isn’t important ?
Just imagine if these last 2 games were gonna be played in Texas.
Villa,
Yea I know…..I was just saying had Cashman had a crystal ball he could have told Berky he coukd play RF this year. (And 1B some vs RHP)
Very surprised to see that the Cards won last night.
I keep hearing people saying this has been a really good WS, but I just have no interest whatsoever. Probably because I couldn’t care less about the two teams that are in it. LOL
Erin-
It has been a great WS.
Just hope it ends the right way.
blake -
Oh, but for that crystal ball!!! LOL
Erin -
It’s a good WS in a very weird sort of way. Not the best games. I think the best game was the second one, the 2-1 game. Every other game has been just strange in a way. But it’s been fun, that’s for sure.
If this was already posted, just ignore me
SuperNova’s got things covered:
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....cRwJPfKSxM
i went to bed thinking it was over. texas with 3-run lead, 7-4.
wtf happened? did i just read the summary right?
exciting, yes, but, oh such bad baseball. a series of mistakes.
i guess somebody has to win, but, ……..
Chad’s morning post is late.
Ya’ suppose he was out partying with some of his Cardinal’s buddies after the game ?
Joe-
I prefer that “somebody” isn’t the Rangers.
From the Nova article:
“According to Scott Boras, who represents reliever Rafael Soriano, his client isn’t going to exercise the opt out clause in his three-year deal.”
Who was the half-wit in here a while ago that was saying how Soriano was going to get a big offer from some other team because he had such a great season and because there were so many other closers available.?
It was like bizarro world.
Good morning.
Glad to read that Nova’s arm is feeling better and the Docs feel it won’t be a ptoblem going forward.
Blake and Nova-
I watched the game ,on and off, and saw the 9th inning, and the Cruz, or was that Bobby Abreu, shy away from the right field wall to allow the Cardinals totie the score 7-7.
Went out of the room for a few minutes and next thing I know it’s 9-7 Rangers on a Hamilton, guided from above, homerun! Go to sleep thinking it’s over and wake up this morning to see mystique and aura came back to tie and the St Louis native, David Freese, won the game in the bottom of the 11th. Freese came from the Padres for Jim Edmunds!!
Any poor managerial guffaws last night?
Jeers-
I say we package Soriano and Burnett together and trade ‘em for a nicely carved Halloween pumpkin.
*problem*
not Bugs Bunny pwoblem!
Blake fell asleep, Villa rested earlier in the game, I turned it off after the Rangers went ahead in the 10th. Did Trisha stay awake for the entire game?
Yankee Trader October 28th, 2011 at 8:54 am
*problem*
not Bugs Bunny pwoblem!
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I think you mean Elmer Fudd.
YT-
You can’t type to save yourself !
Any guesses what the new Sabathia offer is?
This was the original contract offer:
$9M signing bonus (paid in 3 installments: 12/31/08, 3/1/09, 7/31/09
09:$14M, 10-15:$23M annually
salaries to be paid semimonthly over all 12 months of year, rather than semimonthly during season
Sabathia may opt of of deal after 2011 season
no-trade protection
perks: suite on road trips
5 years guaranteed@25M/year with 2 performance/vesting years@ max of 25M/year?
6 years guaranteed?
Thoughts?
MTU -
I respectfully disagree, this has been a WS by 2 of the most inept teams to have played for the title in some time.
Neither team has shown to be championship quality, and “Coke Head” Washington lost that game for them last night, with both the moves he made, and didn’t make.
I truly believe had the Yankees beaten the Tigers, they would have walked all over the Rangers and Cards.
New Post Last night could have been different —>
New Post: Last night could have been different
Maybe so Al but they failed to make the final dance.
As inept as these 2 teams may be they are pretty evenly matched and IMHO it has made for a really good WS.
Of course, I’m sorry the Yanks didn’t make it but there is always next year.