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A championship back home

Posted by: Chad Jennings - Posted in Misc on Oct 29, 2011 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post


I finally met Chase Welker last night, and I think I’ll always remember that.

Chase’s parents were married during the 2009 ALCS, and I missed two games of that series to be a groomsman. Chase was born six weeks ago, and I got the first picture of him while I was on a layover in Minneapolis. Last night, Chase’s father — one of my oldest friends from back home — introduced me to his son, through Skype, during Game 7 of the World Series.

How could I ever forget that?

People ask me all the time whether I still cheer for the Cardinals, and the answer is… well, the answer is complicated.

I grew up in Southeast Missouri, and I honestly can’t think of a single friend from high school who rooted for another team. When my dad taught me about baseball, he taught me about Bob Gibson and Lou Brock and Julian Javier. I remember Jack Buck’s voice more clearly than I remember my grandfather’s.

Covering baseball, though, changes things. The job takes away almost all of the fan experience, and it has to be that way. A reporter can love the game, but he can’t live and die with every pitch, no matter which team is playing. When David Freese tripled in the ninth inning of Game 6, my first thought was of all the running game stories that had just died a horrible death. If the Yankees played a series at Busch Stadium, my job wouldn’t change, I’d just have lunch with old friends before I went to the park.

So, no, I don’t cheer for the Cardinals. Not really.

But last night, two friends sent me a video of their little girl saying, “It’s not cold, it’s Freeeeeesing!” after the Cardinals tied the game in the first inning. A few innings later, little Chase appeared on my computer screen, and I waved at him for the first time. This afternoon, my dad will call, and he’ll tell me all about Chris Carpenter and Allen Craig. He’ll probably tell me all about 1964, too (sorry Yankees fans, but he loved that team).

No, I don’t cheer for the Cardinals any more — not really — but truth be told, I’m glad they won. I’m glad because four of my friends were watching from the seats in right field, and my parents were watching on their television at home, and little Schuyler Anthony was watching from her daddy’s lap while she wore her Cardinals t-shirt and cheered for her favorite third baseman. I’m glad the Cardinals won because Chase Welker got to see it happen.

He might not remember it, but I will. Baseball’s always been good for memories like that.

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102 Responses to “A championship back home”

  1. yankee21 October 29th, 2011 at 9:10 am

    Chad, nice post. It is tough to stop rooting for the team from where you grew up, no matter what you wind up doing for money.

    Hats off to the Cards, they were the last team standing and won the final game of the season.

    Hats off to Lance Berkman too, always liked him and am glad he got a ring.

    And so glad TEX fans are deprived of their first championship. Any time a fanbase cheers Yankees suck, Yankees suck, and their team is not even playing the Yankees, they those fans are complete idiots who should just shoot up and root for the local football team whoever they are…

    And so glad Nolan Ryan is sucking on grapefruit again.. glad he didn’t win it, he never ceases to send cheap shots at NY when he gets a chance.. screw him,, and screw MLB for gifting the Rangers last year.

    I like some of the TEX players but I have no use for their “fans” and their ownership.

    So screw them!!

  2. PittsburghYankeeFan October 29th, 2011 at 9:12 am

    Nice. You are being honest. I’m not so sure your predecessor was, although most of the time he was professional about it.

  3. PittsburghYankeeFan October 29th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    The baseball gods said Texas was not ready. They need to do it with their money, not MLBs.

  4. yankee21 October 29th, 2011 at 9:13 am

    PYF, for sure.

  5. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 9:17 am

    Chad -

    Loved this post.

    ****

    upstate kate -

    I agree with you – the Cardinals were supposed to have a better season overall (throughout the 162-season) than they did. They had a lot of injuries and slow starts, but they came alive at the end.

    At home, we talked about why does it matter that a team is hot at the end rather than at the beginning? What matters is where you stand after game 162.

    And in Game 6, they made this happen for themselves.

    ****

    In my morning paper, the writer doing the game/series recap used this sentence:

    “Thus ended a series in which the baseball was exquisite, the managerial strategy was excruciating and St. Louis was exultant.”

    I think he was hell-bent on using the “ex-” triumvirate, because “exquisite” surely does not describe the baseball played. Not when there was a record number of walks, lots of errors, etc. Is there a better “ex-” word to describe the baseball? Exhausting? Exhilarating, maybe? Yes. Exhilarating I think fits better than exquisite.

  6. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:24 am

    Title of this thread reminds me of a Dylan album from way back when, “Bringing it all back home”.

    Yeah. I’m old. So what ?

    :)

  7. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:26 am

    VN-

    How about “Ex post facto” ?

    ;)

  8. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    MTU -

    Anything but “exquisite.”

    :)

  9. upstate kate October 29th, 2011 at 9:31 am

    MTU
    being old beats the alternative ;)

  10. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:32 am

    VN-

    Sometimes ugly is just beautiful.

    :)

  11. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Kate-

    I dated myself.

    Vertical is way better than a dirt sandwich. No doubt about that.

    :)

  12. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 9:34 am

    Well, I just looked up “exquisite” and one of the meanings is “intensely felt.” So, I suppose in that sense of the word, it was indeed exquisite. But it also can mean extremely beautiful, and that certainly does not fit (even if beauty is in the eye of the beholder).

  13. Tom in N.J. October 29th, 2011 at 9:38 am

    After the Yankees I always root for the team that my friends are fans of. Except the Red Sox. Eff those guys.

  14. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:39 am

    Tom-

    I think the Sux have reverted back.

    :)

  15. austinmac October 29th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    I think playing well at the end of the season helps in the playoffs. The Cards were hot, and the Yankees were not. That’s why I didn’t want them to keep losing despite the Red Sox playoff absence.

    The NY writers seem to believe CC will opt out before any agreement. Losing CC, if it were to occur, would create an interesting hot stove. Let’s hope this is over soon. I don’t want another off season held hostage by a player.

  16. Tom in N.J. October 29th, 2011 at 9:40 am

    MTU, The nature of Chad’s job ensures that there is, as Dylan sang, “no direction home”.

  17. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 9:41 am

    MTU October 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am
    This season proves many things but one of them is that being the best team on paper doesn’t mean you’ll be the best team in October.

    Guess the Sux and the fightless Phillies figured that out.

    The Anlers and Claws too.

    Too funny.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    MTU, I’m not taking any satisfaction in the fact that other teams lost. I guess I have to put the Yanks right in the forefront on the on paper comment. Maybe it’s a lesson to be learned for next year I hope so.

  18. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:43 am

    Tom-

    Somehow I think Chad still knows where home is.

    ;)

  19. yankee21 October 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    for sure, the first order of biz is finding out where CC’s heart and hand is…

    If CC’s heart is in NY and he wants to make it happen at a reasonable cost, I expect there to be little drama on that front and things will get done quickly.

    However, if CC hand is looking for some serious coin as the first priority regardless of where he makes it.. then the drama will play out for quite a while.

    IMO, CC and NY are too good of a fit for things to go awry. It will get done relatively quick.

  20. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    austinmac October 29th, 2011 at 9:40 am
    I think playing well at the end of the season helps in the playoffs. The Cards were hot, and the Yankees were not. That’s why I didn’t want them to keep losing despite the Red Sox playoff absence.

    ___________________________________________________________________________

    Austinmac, I agree. The Yanks were on cruise control at the end. Not going out to win that last game at TB and blowing that game with the 7 run lead was an omen for things to come. Cards had something to play for and they played like it, the Yanks decided there wasn’t anything to play for and played like it.

  21. pat October 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am

    Chad

    Hearfelt, well written and perfectly explained.

    After years of trying to get through the Yankees to be WS champs, Punto and Rhodes finally got there. Kudos to them.

    Also- Dotel was hysterical last night. He was the loudest person in the Cards clubhouse and was a funny interview and just hearing him say “world serious” made me laugh. Gone too soon to see if that was his personality when he was in NY.

  22. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    yankee21 October 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am
    for sure, the first order of biz is finding out where CC’s heart and hand is…

    If CC’s heart is in NY and he wants to make it happen at a reasonable cost, I expect there to be little drama on that front and things will get done quickly.

    However, if CC hand is looking for some serious coin as the first priority regardless of where he makes it.. then the drama will play out for quite a while.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Speaking for myself I think he does want to play in NY but he does want the serious money also. Worst case scenario is that it doesn’t resolve itself quickly. Having this thing hanging around dominates the conversation just like the Lee thing did last year. The Yanks need to make some moves and getting CC behind them is the keys to the Kingdom I think in being able to move forward and take their best shots on other FA’s and trades.

  23. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:48 am

    Gary-

    For me whenever our hapless rivals fall I enjoy it. Pretenders to the Crown that they are.

    The answer to my quiz question from the previous thread is that there is no answer.

    Only best guesses which frequently fall short.

    The line between winning and losing in the PS can be very thin.

    Things have to go just right. It isn’t all skill. Luck is involved too.

  24. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 9:51 am

    Have a good day everyone.

    Gotta go soon.

    10 or so miles of trail lay ahead of me.

    :)

  25. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 9:52 am

    Chad-
    Thank you again for your excellent input, your stories and posts make this the best blog around.

  26. 108 stitches October 29th, 2011 at 9:52 am

    If the Yankees can’t win it all, I’m always happy to see one of the old time teams (pre expansion) do it. All except Boston.

    2011 baseball is officially in the record books. Time to gather logs for the hot stove beginning with those opting for free agency.

  27. upstate kate October 29th, 2011 at 9:54 am

    have a good hike MTU

    Lack of results does not mean lack of effort or desire. I have no doubt the Yankees wanted to win as much as any other team, perhaps more.

  28. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    upstate kate -

    I agree 100% with 9:54 post.

  29. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 9:57 am

    MTU, points well taken. I’m just not one of those guys that gets any satisfaction out of others losing when you lost yourself. I’m not defending the Philles, but I think they lost the final game 1-0 with Carpenter beating Haliday in a pitchers duel. Hard to say that they weren’t a break away from advancing just like the constant drumbeat that the Yanks were a hit away from advancing to. Most of these games this year were razor thin well fought games. I think it was one of those years where getting or not gettring the break here and there really made a hugh difference in the outcomes. If your a parity fan it was great, everybody was just about equal.

  30. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 9:58 am

    Good morning.

    King and Sherman wrote this article in the NYPost earlier. King then wrote another article this morning, an hour ago, which I’ll attach.

    “The Yankees planned to present an initial proposal to CC Sabathia this weekend, but were not overly optimistic they could reach an agreement with their ace before Monday at 11:59 p.m., the deadline for the lefty to void the final four seasons of his contract.

    Yankees officials met in Tampa earlier this week to finalize a strategy for dealing with Sabathia.

    An official who has done a lot of business over many years with the Yankees said they generally do not submit an official offer to a player “until they know it is something the other side will accept or is darn near close to that.” Thus, the Yankees still could be in a feeling-out period with Sabathia’s representatives, Greg Genske and, specifically, Brian Peters before actually making a firm, written proposal.

    If the sides have not reached some unanimity of ideas or covered a lot of ground already there probably will not be enough time to keep Sabathia from opting out. And as of 12:01 a.m. Thursday (Wednesday night), Sabathia could begin negotiating with any team.”

    http://www.nypost.com/p/sports.....VYlWLTlhFO

  31. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Thank you Kate. I agree. You have a good one too.

    :)

  32. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:03 am

    Come on Chad…..you can cheer for a team and still be professional and unbiased…..just look at Peter Gammons.

  33. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:05 am

    Phillies made a huge tactical mistake, IMO.

    In the last game of the regular season, against the Braves, they not only played all of their regulars but played them into extra innings and won, eliminating the Braves and a playoff game between the Braves and Cardinals. In that playoff game Carpenter would have started, and if the Cardinals won, he would have been unavailable to start Game 1 against Halladay.

  34. austinmac October 29th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    Luck is a residue of design or luck is when preparation meets opportunity. Trite, yes, but with truth in them.

    I am tired of many saying the the Yankees lost due to bad luck. Funny, I don’t remember many critical line drives being caught. They didn’t hit the ball hard. It wasn’t unlucky, it was poor performance.

    The Red Sox lost because they lacked pitching depth. The Phillies lost due to offensive shortcomings.

    Stop rewriting history, and stop acting as if this Yankee team is only some good fortune away from winning. This off season should be about improving the design of the team to improve their “luck”.

  35. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 10:06 am

    An official who has done a lot of business over many years with the Yankees said they generally do not submit an official offer to a player “until they know it is something the other side will accept or is darn near close to that.” Thus, the Yankees still could be in a feeling-out period with Sabathia’s representatives, Greg Genske and, specifically, Brian Peters before actually making a firm, written proposal.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Sounds like a dumb comment, I negotiated many times for many years. We always tendered a bid that we though was the fair value for the goods and services that we were to receive, not based on what we thought the other side would accept. my impression is that was the way the Yanks did it also. I don’t see him taking any bid before the deadline, his agent knows that waiting will garner a higher price so I don’t think if the Yanks were to do anything it would make any difference.

  36. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 10:09 am

    Gary-

    In all seriousness, the line between winning and losing is a lot thinner than most would care to admit.

    That Cards/Phillies game is just one of many examples.

    Have a good day. Catch a Dorado for me.

    ;)

  37. MTU October 29th, 2011 at 10:10 am

    Austin-

    It won’t be long before the Yankees oblige you with # 28.

    :)

  38. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    If both sides are really as motivated as they say them they’ll get a deal done with CC……if that’s just talk and he wants the absolute most money he can get then they probably wont.

    I must admit that if the latter is the case ill be disappointed……even though its business and CC has every right to use whatever leverage he has……ill still be disappointed if he declines the very large and very fair offer the Yankees are going to make in favor of squeezing a marginal increase out of the system..

  39. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:12 am

    Once the Sabathia’s see the Brinks truck that is pulling into their driveway, the one GB said that Cashman was driving when he had a minor traffic accident yeasterday, they and their agents, will be all ears.

    6 guaranteed years should do it.

  40. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:14 am

    *yesterday*

  41. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 10:15 am

    Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:05 am
    Phillies made a huge tactical mistake, IMO.

    In the last game of the regular season, against the Braves, they not only played all of their regulars but played them into extra innings and won, eliminating the Braves and a playoff game between the Braves and Cardinals. In that playoff game Carpenter would have started, and if the Cardinals won, he would have been unavailable to start Game 1 against Halladay.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Respectfully, they lost 1-0 in the final game. Halliday nearly went the distance and gave up 6 hits, the Philles only got 3 hits. To me the outcome had nothing to do with pitching.

  42. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:21 am

    If 6 guaranteed years doesn’t do it then let him opt out and shop the offer……if they have to go higher then make sure its actually to beat another team and not because they are birding against themselves.

    People want to know why the Yankees have the highest payroll……well one of the main reasons is because players never give then a break or a discount……they know the yankees have the most money so they’ll except nothing less. I don’t necessarily blame the players but that’s just they way it is……they have to pay everyone just a little bit more than anyone else would have to…….and that adds up

  43. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:24 am

    Joelsherman1 2 hours Know what #Yankees need: For A-Rod to have same mid-30s rebound that Berkman just did.

    Joelsherman1 2 hours #Cardinals should get ace Wainwright back in ’12, but with postseason Carpenter threw 273.1IP at 36. Wonder if impact next yr

    Joelsherman1 2 hours Key for #Cardinals future: Are Freese and Craig players who can stay healthy/be stars; or complementary players who shined at right time

    Joelsherman1 2 hours Funny how it works: #Redsox went 90-72 and were majors’ biggest disappointment. #Cardinals went 90-72 and were majors’ greatest success

  44. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Gary-

    You’re right Carpenter started Games 2 and 5 against the Phillies. He gave up 4 runs in 3 innings in game 2, a game they eventually won 5-4 after the bullpen shut down the Phillies the rest of the way. Lohse was the loser in Game 1, 11-6.

    I’m not sure then the outcome would have been any different if Carpenter was fully rested and facing Halladay in game 1.

  45. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 10:26 am

    Baseball is a game of inches, millimeters, even.

    The Yankees fell short – slightly. They were not trounced by the Tigers.

    They lost because they fell a hit short in three games. And they did hit the ball hard, and line drives were caught. And some good plays were made against them.

    Sure I’m disappointed they lost. I don’t think they weren’t trying. And I don’t think there was a huge breakdown there. Can they maybe make some adjustments? Sure. But heck this wasn’t a team of buffoons out there. The Yankees pitched well for the most part (they were always in the games they lost) and they played good defense.

    I just can’t get all “mad” at the Yankees. If I thought they just showed up thinking it was a cakewalk, maybe, but I did not see any evidence of that.

  46. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:31 am

    ESPN’s Jason Churchill speculates that Oakland could shop Gio Gonzalez in exchange for some offense this winter.
    ———————————
    give them Gardner

  47. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    As a baseball fan and Yankee fan this was an awesome season for the game IMO….sure I wish the Yanks were holding the trophey but there were so many positive storylines.

    Jeters 3000th, Mos record, Robertsons emergence, the kids Nova, Nunez, Montero ….another AL East title.

    And from an MLB perspective when you combine the final day of the reg. Season with the excitement of the WS then it was a great year.

  48. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am

    Joelsherman1 2 hours Key for #Cardinals future: Are Freese and Craig players who can stay healthy/be stars; or complementary players who shined at right time
    ———————————-
    Blake-
    With regards to Allen Craig, who hit .315 with 11 homers in 200 AB’s during the regular season, if Pujols is not resigned, likely Craig gets a corner OF spot with Berkman moving back to 1st.

    I didn’t hear any postgame comments from Pujols. Did you? Anything to indicate his interest in returning?

  49. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:33 am

    doubt very much Arod hits 30 hrs again..

  50. spidanyc October 29th, 2011 at 10:34 am

    Congrats to the Cards! As a selfish Yankees fan, I look at their roster and wonder how they won the World Series without their ace (Wainright). I guess it has to be heart. Something the Yankees need to learn instead of constantly overachieving.

  51. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Gardner for Gio…sign Beltran, little business with the bench & lets go

  52. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    Its all about health with Alex……if he can play 140 healthy games again then there are multiple 30 homers seasons still in the tank…..he just has to get healthy

  53. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    of course sign CC

  54. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am

    They lost because they fell a hit short in three games. And they did hit the ball hard, and line drives were caught. And some good plays were made against them.

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    Villa, sorry I guess I can’t resist the opportunity. They lost because of Nick Swisher, he didn’t hit hard line drives he just struck out or fouled out in key situations. I do remember the Jeter ball being caught, but alot of the line drives did find the gaps for doubles so I think that balanced out. I’m sure there are other culprits out there, but the poster child has to be smiling Nick.

  55. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am

    ESPN’s Jason Churchill speculates that Oakland could shop Gio Gonzalez in exchange for some offense this winter.
    ———————————
    give them Gardner
    ———————————–
    …..and what else? lefty pitcher Banuelos?
    The A’s entire OF are FA’s-Crisp, Willingham and DeJesus.

  56. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    Jerry lane is awful…..he impacted that game last night. Nit saying it affected the outcome……but he’s awful.

    Why would they trade Gio foragardner Gardner?

  57. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:37 am

    blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:35 am
    Its all about health with Alex……if he can play 140 healthy games again then there are multiple 30 homers seasons still in the tank…..he just has to get healthy

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    we disagree once again and reason I put it out there is because Arod is breaking down…140 + games & 3-+ hrs…can’t see it

  58. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Probably cost Montero to get Gio and he’s not worth that.

  59. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    I disagree with all of you. The Yankees lost because of Mother nature!! :)

  60. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:36 am
    ESPN’s Jason Churchill speculates that Oakland could shop Gio Gonzalez in exchange for some offense this winter.
    ———————————
    give them Gardner
    ———————————–
    …..and what else? lefty pitcher Banuelos?
    The A’s entire OF are FA’s-Crisp, Willingham and DeJesus.

    ——————–
    whatever it takes

  61. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 10:38 am

    Gary -

    They lost because every person in their starting lineup had a chance to get an important hit in a big situation and came up short. Not just Swisher.

    Go down the lineup man for man, and it is absolutely true that each had the opportunity to have a game-changing hit in their losses, and every one of them failed at one time or another.

  62. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    Actually Jeter was up in a lot of spots where he could have won the game. Twice he struck out. Once he almost did it, though. :(

  63. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 10:39 am

    I can see where Swisher might be the “poster child,” but it wasn’t just him. He’s just an easy go-to.

  64. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:40 am

    ESPN’s Jason Churchill speculates that Oakland could shop Gio Gonzalez in exchange for some offense this winter.
    The news should be taken with a grain of salt, as Gonzalez is coming off a season in which he finished ninth in the American League with 197 strikeouts and fourth in strikeouts per nine innings. If they A’s were to sell high on his value, it would largely be due to the fact that he’s arbitration eligible as a Super Two qualifier. The Rockies and Marlins are currently being thrown around as landing spots, with Logan Morrison being linked as a possible trading chip. Morrison fell out of favor with the Marlins last month when he filed grievance for what he believed was a wrongful demotion.
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    Morrison better than Gardner ?

  65. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    “Morrison better than Gardner ?”

    More upside and is younger….

  66. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am

    Also that’s speculation and I suspect it would take more than Morrison as well.

  67. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:44 am

    blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am
    Also that’s speculation and I suspect it would take more than Morrison as well.

    ——————————
    agree on that

  68. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    Joeman-

    Gio Gonzalez made < 500K last year and is due for a large increase. Found this in a March MLBTR about the A's. They look like they are need ing to replace a lot of offense and will have some $$$ to shop FA's.

    •Athletics: Likely that 60% of team's regular position players reach free agency. Large arb class headed by Gio Gonzalez and Bailey. Might have $17MM to spend but lots of openings.

    If the Yankees were to take Fuentes or Balfour off their hands, maybe a deal could be worked out without Montero?

  69. pat October 29th, 2011 at 10:46 am

    “Yankees need: For A-Rod to have same mid-30s rebound that Berkman just did.”

    Yanks need prime age players to be carrying the team and notpast mid-30s players.

  70. LockDown October 29th, 2011 at 10:48 am

    I look forward to a healthy A-rod & having a great year. He’s difference maker when healthy. The thumb injury was so freaky. He did not had a chance to get his timing back. Had the yanks moved on, I suspect he would have found it. But it didn’t happen :(

  71. 108 stitches October 29th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Cliff Lee will become an albatross contract sooner than later. The Phillies will be as active a team this winter as any other. They have the free agency of Rollins and Madson to deal with. Worley will replace Oswalt. Not sure when Ryan Howard will return.

  72. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:52 am

    Pat,

    I agree……an Arod bounceback would be a big bonus ……but they need guys like Teixera to be what they were signed to be. When Alex was Tex’s age he was carrying the offense….

  73. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 10:54 am

    Arod also had the torn meniscus ..besides the thumb

  74. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    How about the crowd last night……no other sport (except maybe soccer) can match the level of noise that an excited baseball crowd can. No other sport can build that type of drama…

  75. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:56 am

    Without Montero included in a deal for Gio Gonzalez, the Yankees will probably have to give up Manny Banuelos as the centerpiece blue-chipper+ Hughes/Noesi[the A's will ask for Nova]+ Gardner for Gio Gonzalez and one of Fuentes/Balfour to get their salaries off the books.

    Even then I don’t think the Yankees have enough “cheap”offense to give them replacements for Crisp, Willingham, DeJesus, Matsui, all coming off the payroll.

  76. blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:59 am

    “Arod also had the torn meniscus ..besides the thumb”

    Neither injury is chronic …..shouldn’t have any carryover to next year……the worry is the hip longterm and just if he’s going to continue to pile up these nagging things. The report that he’s going to focus on agility and flexibility this winter is good and that should help.

  77. Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 11:03 am

    108 stitches-

    Howard should be back 6 months after his surgery-probably by mid May?
    They need to replace his offense and the 20 homers, 84 RBi’s[3rd on the team in both] they are losing from Ibanez.

  78. joeman October 29th, 2011 at 11:11 am

    blake October 29th, 2011 at 10:59 am
    “Arod also had the torn meniscus ..besides the thumb”

    Neither injury is chronic …..shouldn’t have any carryover to next year……the worry is the hip longterm and just if he’s going to continue to pile up these nagging things. The report that he’s going to focus on agility and flexibility this winter is good and that should help.

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    don’t know if that’s true, I had a torn meniscus which was also repaired by Dr Kaplin ( same Doc who did Arod), he told me if I continued running & climbing utility poles I would be back for another repair….I stopped running and took a supervisor job….no weight gain yet

  79. Joe from Long Island October 29th, 2011 at 11:17 am

    Chad – that was a very good post. Though baseball is special, it’s still just a game. Family and personal relationships are what are really important.

    You want something ironic? Look at the drive Jeter hit in Game 5, bottom of the 8th, and compare it to the drive that Freese hit in the bottom of the 9th. They were very similar drives, both hard hit, just before the RF wall. In one case, the expected catch is made. In the other, it isn’t. Both were big in determining outcomes.

    You can’t predict baseball.

  80. Giuseppe Franco October 29th, 2011 at 11:23 am

    I don’t see Gio Gonzalez and his 4BB/9IP in a cavernous ballpark translating all that well to the AL East, especially when you consider what Beane will want in return for him.

  81. 108 stitches October 29th, 2011 at 11:24 am

    Gio Gonzalez would be a good get and being LH doesn’t hurt his cause. I’d offer Gardner (if pushed) and hope that Golson, Dickerson, or Maxwell can replace Gardner. Expand the offer with Warren or Phelps plus Cervelli and Pena.
    Reluctant to give up Noesi, Banuelos or Betances.

    http://oakland.athletics.mlb.c....._id=461829

  82. Giuseppe Franco October 29th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    None of the Golson, Dickerson, or Maxwell trio would be replacing Gardner. None are everyday players.

    They’d have to acquire someone else via trade or FA market.

  83. Joe from Long Island October 29th, 2011 at 11:29 am

    Interesting story on page 1 of NY Times today.

    Dr. James Andrews, the famous orthopedic surgeon, did an informal study. He got MRI scans of the throwing shoulders of 31 perfectly healthy professional baseball pitchers. Guys who had no complaints.

    About 90% had abnormalities of their shoulder cartilage, including rotator cuff.

    Said Dr. Andrews, “If you want an excuse to operate on a pitcher’s throwing shoulder, just get an MRI.”

  84. Pat M. October 29th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Doc Joe…….I’ve had 7 knee procedures, 3 hip surgeries, 1 shoulder, 1 ankle…..MRI”s = Scalpel…. Now a days I visit the tube only for updates….

  85. Tom in N.J. October 29th, 2011 at 11:34 am

    Try to get Liriano and hope he bounces back?

    The Twins need OF help-they traded Young and Cuddyer and Kubel are FA’s.

  86. Villa Nova-Ya October 29th, 2011 at 11:36 am

    Joe from Long Island -

    Wow. But not surprising, really. A friend of ours has a son who is 15 who is a pitcher/shortstop who is already having issues with is throwing shoulder from overuse (he plays almost all year, despite being in NJ and not the warmer climes). He was not far removed from surgery, but the doctors felt rest and rehab were in order.

  87. Tom in N.J. October 29th, 2011 at 11:41 am

    I have a 17 year of cousin who has already had TJ surgery.

    My uncle moved his family to a different state so he could play baseball this past year (NY would not let him play sports for medical reasons).

  88. Against All Odds October 29th, 2011 at 11:42 am

    Liriano is so injury prone though.

  89. GreenBeret7 October 29th, 2011 at 11:55 am

    Giuseppe Franco October 29th, 2011 at 11:29 am
    None of the Golson, Dickerson, or Maxwell trio would be replacing Gardner. None are everyday players.

    They’d have to acquire someone else via trade or FA market.

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    If NYYs were to consider trading Gardber, and that’s doubtful, they’d most likely have Nunez in winter ball getting a crash course in playing the outfield. My pick for an outfield instructor would be Jose Cardenal.

  90. GreenBeret7 October 29th, 2011 at 11:56 am

    ***Gardner***

  91. Joe from Long Island October 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am

    looks like that story has struck a chord here on LoHud.

    Pat M. – wow. you sound like a war veteran. ease up a bit, enjoy that drink, and take in the scenery – like when the pool service comes ;) can you tell i’m a bit envious…..

  92. Pat M. October 29th, 2011 at 12:07 pm

    Doc Joe…..My situation is managable….I can hear GB’s kenns creak all the way out here on the left coast……Jumping out of planes is far more taxing that trying to be a shortstop….

  93. GreenBeret7 October 29th, 2011 at 12:16 pm

    Pat,

    Believe it or not, with all of those jumps, I had only two injuries. A sprained ankle and a split chin when the wind got up under my helmet and pulled the chinstrap up into my face and split it open. I didn’t even know it until my face thawed out after I hit the ground. That’s when I saw the blood and it started burning like Hell.

  94. Pat M. October 29th, 2011 at 12:30 pm

    It takes a special breed to be jumping out of planes for the sake of liberty and safety for our country…..It wasn’t until later in life that I’ve come to understand this…….We all owe you and your colleagues a big thank you…..

  95. GreenBeret7 October 29th, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    Pat,

    Nothing quite that noble. I loved the thrill (after I got to where I didn’t have to be pushed out of the plane) and I liked the jump pay. Seriously, though…it was just part of the job that I loved doing. I and my friends thank you for the words of appreciation and encouragement.

  96. tomingeorgia October 29th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    GB7,
    An extra $55 a month helps when base pay was $321. I never could understand why officers go $110 jump pay.

  97. GreenBeret7 October 29th, 2011 at 12:57 pm

    Tom,

    I never understood why officers got more pay for drinking coffee, either. All they ever did was get in the way.

  98. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 1:12 pm

    Yankee Trader October 29th, 2011 at 10:56 am
    Without Montero included in a deal for Gio Gonzalez, the Yankees will probably have to give up Manny Banuelos as the centerpiece blue-chipper+ Hughes/Noesi[the A's will ask for Nova]+ Gardner for Gio Gonzalez and one of Fuentes/Balfour to get their salaries off the books.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Earlier post, but I guess I don’t see the Yanks giving up any of their young prospects especially pitchers. It’s been the philosophy for the past few years, so I’m not sure what has happened that would make the Yanks change what they are doing. I guess I’m more of less seeing it right now that there are alot of players they won’t trade, and other players they can’t trade. Doesn’t leave much left. Would they trade Gardner? doubtful they like his speed and defense and he’s maturing as he gets more experience.

  99. Gary October 29th, 2011 at 1:15 pm

    Off topic, but the Giants are supposed to crush the Dolphins Sunday at the Meadowlands. Giants however always seem to make these kind of games interesting. Hopefully, bad Eli is still vactioning on the Bye Week and Good Eli made it back for the game.

  100. bardos October 29th, 2011 at 2:11 pm

    We know that Cashman and the Yankees are not going to lowball CC. So if he opts out, I think he loses good-feeling New York fanbase.

  101. fourtenwedge October 31st, 2011 at 12:42 pm

    Hey bro

    From thousands of miles away I only got to see the last 2 innings and and sat in silence with the biggest smile on my face when we closed it out. While you may not cheer for the “good guys” anymore, I couldn’t help but think of how awesome it would have been if the old Mid-West was there together to watch that series.

    What is Willie McGee better than? You’ll always be that guy that didn’t play football to me Chad. And its always good to read your articles.

  102. sharpwp October 31st, 2011 at 8:49 pm

    Great writing Chad. I rooted for the Cards enough for the both of us.


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